KARATE Kata That Has Almost Been FORGOTTEN

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  • @sp10sn
    @sp10sn 5 місяців тому +8

    Impressive video. Excellent footage. Great editing. Let's call this the ground floor. I'm in!

  • @ralfhtg1056
    @ralfhtg1056 5 місяців тому +13

    Kusanku is without any doubt one of those Kata that has the most different variations. The only rival I can think of is Passai. The original Chatanyara Kusanku (which is practised in Matsubayashi Ryu and is to some now known as Kuniyoshi Kusanku), modern Chatanyara Kusanku, Chibana Kusanku, Matsumura Kusanku, Kanku Dai, Kanku Sho, Shiho Kosokun... The list goes on. According to Roland Habersetzer there are 13 versions of Kusanku.

    • @avakinzerochill
      @avakinzerochill 4 місяці тому

      Which of those is the wado ryu kushanku?

    • @ralfhtg1056
      @ralfhtg1056 4 місяці тому

      @@avakinzerochill not 100% sure, but as far as I know Wado Ryu Kusanku is just Kanku Dai from Shotokan with some minor tweaks here and there. Just the old name for one of the youngest versions of that Kata.

    • @avakinzerochill
      @avakinzerochill 4 місяці тому

      ​@ralfhtg1056 yeah, it is kanku dai. I was assuming at least one of those was also

    • @ralfhtg1056
      @ralfhtg1056 4 місяці тому +1

      @@avakinzerochill no, that is not the case. They are all a bit different.

    • @richardguerra3605
      @richardguerra3605 2 місяці тому +1

      In Soryu Karate we practice the Kushanku Dai and Kushanku sho from the teachings of Kanken Toyama passed down to Soryu Founder Michio Koyasu I learned from Joe Alvarado Sensei one of the First Americans who learned In Japan from Michio Koyasu Soke. I began my journey in Feb 1966 at age 14.

  • @Siamak-l8j
    @Siamak-l8j 5 місяців тому +2

    Great work Oskars 🙏🏻

  • @shishikaikan
    @shishikaikan 5 місяців тому +2

    Love these videos! keep em coming!

  • @ליאורציקורל
    @ליאורציקורל 5 місяців тому +1

    Good video man!
    I loved your editing and story telling abilitys.
    Please continue

  • @jm7578
    @jm7578 5 місяців тому +12

    It’s too bad that Uechi Ryu is not included…

    • @Ronin-101
      @Ronin-101 5 місяців тому +3

      Cause it's not flashy and was created just to skill

    • @walkerbelue7871
      @walkerbelue7871 5 місяців тому +5

      Uechi Ryu is originally from China and was brought to Okinawa long after Shuriteke, Nahateke, and Tomariteke were formed. The Tomarite family of styles died out, and Uechi Ryu filled that gap. That’s why it is one of the three main styles in Okinawa today. But Uechi guys would be lost in kata competitions, mainly because Uechi is brutal. I'm a Shorin Ryu guy, and I’ve trained some Uechi, and even the women were better conditioned than I was. I've done a lot more conditioning since then.

    • @avakinzerochill
      @avakinzerochill 4 місяці тому

      ​​ @Ronin-101 nah, that's not why. Wado isn't flashy at all. Honestly, it's probably lack of crossover. Uechi has 8 kata, and I think only like two - seisan and sanchin - are practiced in the accepted styles.

    • @messey12
      @messey12 4 місяці тому +1

      Uechi Ryu wouldn't win a lot of tournaments, but it'll win a LOT of fights for one's life.

  • @kriskanapo9282
    @kriskanapo9282 2 місяці тому

    My understanding is that the Pinans/Heians came from Ku Shanku (3 and 4), Channan (1 and 2) and Bassai (5)

  • @anjoLas
    @anjoLas 5 місяців тому +1

    Learned that Kata in the thumbnail (brown belt Kata movement Shotokan) when I was 14 years old - 1994.
    Yes, I still practice martial arts.
    Student and teacher.

  • @rickhickman45
    @rickhickman45 5 місяців тому +1

    Many Teachers don't teach Bunkai. The Meaning and reasons for KATA makes it Interesting and gives you the Reason of KATA. Fighting Techniques

    • @Kamawan0
      @Kamawan0 5 місяців тому

      A LOT of bunkai is manufactured nonsense. It's very rare for a kata to contain information useful in a modern era, while also imparting good fundamentals.

    • @burntrim
      @burntrim 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Kamawan0 I would say ALL so called bunkai is nonsense. Unless it's obvious, like a punch or a kick. And that depends on the punch and the kick.

    • @OskarsZvejnieks
      @OskarsZvejnieks  4 місяці тому +2

      I would disagree. Most kata, have good stuff in them.
      But it really depends how and when you use it and most importantly how you SEE it, since i have seen so many people take specific combinations and trying to aply them or teach them for situations where it does not make sense. Context is everything.

    • @burntrim
      @burntrim 4 місяці тому

      @@OskarsZvejnieks Ok, give me one example

    • @OskarsZvejnieks
      @OskarsZvejnieks  4 місяці тому

      There are videos planned on it, stay tuned 😁

  • @gwine9087
    @gwine9087 5 місяців тому

    I judged many kata competitions, back in the '80s and '90s, but never got to see any of these. Too bad!

  • @thiagodemelo9774
    @thiagodemelo9774 5 місяців тому +1

    Keep posting.

    • @OskarsZvejnieks
      @OskarsZvejnieks  5 місяців тому +1

      Will try!
      There are some videos in the works.

  • @PetrusNicolai
    @PetrusNicolai 5 місяців тому +1

    Thats one of those katas that would like to have more attention in competitions. It is a shame that no one remembers that kata (I'm not gonna lie, unfortunetly even I forget it exists sometimes lol)

  • @gianpaulobaldoza5686
    @gianpaulobaldoza5686 5 місяців тому

    Ive used Kishimoto No Kushanku on my recent tournaments because of its complicity and its Uniqueness and it is also similar to my favorite katas like chatanyara kushanku and Chibana no Kushanku and im not even sure if its wkf approved kata but since i saw a vid by Sandra Sanchez performing it i used it on my last tournaments

    • @OskarsZvejnieks
      @OskarsZvejnieks  5 місяців тому

      Kishimoto is approved, yes, but as mentioned in the video, the Shitoryu version is performed quite commonly, but the Gensei Ryu version is basically non-existent in Tournaments

  • @carlosham9124
    @carlosham9124 4 місяці тому

    ShudoKan has a Kishimoto, Chibana and Chatan Yara version, also included recently in the WKF list.

  • @JoaoSouza-ts7vj
    @JoaoSouza-ts7vj 5 місяців тому

    Wonderfull...Oss!

  • @cpiper6338
    @cpiper6338 4 місяці тому

    It does seem, with all of the style offshoots, that there are so many versions of Kusanku and Bassai that it's hard for judging officials to keep up.

    • @ralfhtg1056
      @ralfhtg1056 4 місяці тому +1

      @@cpiper6338 hard to keep up? I'd say impossible. There are more than 10 versions of Passai: Tomari Passai (said to be the oldest version), Matsumura Passai, Ishimine Passai, Chibana Passai, Itosu Passai, Passai Guwa, Bassai Sho, Bassai Dai and I can imagine there are more. Similar for Kusanku.

  • @rickhickman45
    @rickhickman45 5 місяців тому

    One of those Kusanku spots, looked like O'Sensi Odo??

  • @kaliyuddha
    @kaliyuddha 5 місяців тому

    It has the same jumping kick and landing on all fours move as Unsu. Noone I asked knows what it does supposedly represent: fighting styles don't care about the katas, and kata people don't care about the applications.

    • @Kamawan0
      @Kamawan0 5 місяців тому

      The jump is only for athleticism. If people try to spin that the Unsu jump is a fighting move, well, ask to fight them and put them to the task of using it on you.

    • @kaliyuddha
      @kaliyuddha 5 місяців тому

      @@Kamawan0 that's the standard explanation. In truth it is a certain tornado kick variation

    • @Kamawan0
      @Kamawan0 5 місяців тому

      @@kaliyuddha That's even worse, those are totally useless in life or death situations.

  • @JDivinorumVideo
    @JDivinorumVideo 4 місяці тому

    Is there a bunkai for this kata?

  • @TronForlox
    @TronForlox 5 місяців тому +2

    Sure I’ll be # 151. Let’s see where this goes…

  • @fredricclack7137
    @fredricclack7137 5 місяців тому

    💯 kata 5 Kung Fu Kuens!

  • @HO-bndk
    @HO-bndk 5 місяців тому

    What about Channan?

  • @QsQs-du9xp
    @QsQs-du9xp 4 місяці тому

    Bring Heihashi Mishima in plz

  • @fredricclack7137
    @fredricclack7137 5 місяців тому +1

    2 Linear! 🥱😴