The Sad Reality of Football YouTube

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 27 лют 2024
  • For Business Enquires and Promotions Contact Below
    vizeh@ingoodkompany.co.uk
    Link to Mark's Video Here: • Why The Kick Off Ended...
    Follow Vizeh:
    Twitch: / vizeh
    Twitter: / officialvizeh
    Instagram: / officialvizeh
    Facebook: / officialvizeh
    The Sad Reality of Football UA-cam
    The Sad Reality of Football UA-cam
    The Sad Reality of Football UA-cam
  • Ігри

КОМЕНТАРІ • 562

  • @awaydaysfootball
    @awaydaysfootball 3 місяці тому +813

    This is how I feel when an AwayDays guest has the audacity to do their own content

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +164

      This is why we love ya

    • @skullxishim
      @skullxishim 3 місяці тому +10

      Just found out about you channel and I like you guys work.

    • @aclockworkreview
      @aclockworkreview 3 місяці тому +12

      Awaydays and Liam to me are the future of football youtube

    • @Bartholomulevr
      @Bartholomulevr 3 місяці тому

      That's why your the best

    • @BuckledFrame2187
      @BuckledFrame2187 3 місяці тому +3

      Dont forget Smiv. Hes the goat of travelling england for football​@aclockworkreview

  • @FootballIconic
    @FootballIconic 3 місяці тому +352

    It’s very obvious that a lot of these podcasts don’t really believe the opinions they put out…

    • @jasonmillsom2981
      @jasonmillsom2981 3 місяці тому +19

      Love your content, and as a fellow united fan we shall suffer together😂

    • @alexrobertsfcim
      @alexrobertsfcim 3 місяці тому +2

      It's no better on the other side of the pond either. We have sports talk shows - thankfully I never watch them but snippets of them popping up on Twitter are unavoidable - of people giving rancid bad takes that are too inflammatory to possibly believe them to be true. Fucking Hollywood-type bullshit with the acting required. Lord knows I must have at least 100 really bad football/soccer takes and poor Inter fans have to see me type them regularly in our corner of the internet, but for better or worse at least I believe in what I'm saying when I initially write it. Maybe someone knocks some sense into me, makes me realize I'm a fucking moron, and I adjust my view after being given better perspective, but I'm not gonna call Inzaghi the greatest manager to walk the earth one week then be yelling for his dismissal the next either...I'm stupid but not that stupid and vapid.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +54

      100%, good to see you here man! Hope you’re well!

    • @FootballIconic
      @FootballIconic 3 місяці тому +37

      @@Vizeh Cheers, same to you, man! I'm always watching in the background haha.

    • @siphemanana2551
      @siphemanana2551 3 місяці тому +6

      You, Vizeh, HITC Sevens, Maqwell and maybe Statman Dave are the only football UA-camrs that are really solid.
      …the rest are full of sh*t 😕

  • @tpfootballanalysis6752
    @tpfootballanalysis6752 3 місяці тому +564

    The worst thing about the Club is they're very childish and immature about the Kick Off - Buvey calling out TG, doing a Tier List, saying the Kick Off fell off, pretending they never worked for the show... it's such an elephant in the room, it's embarrassing

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +96

      I’ve not watched a single clip or video of The Club other than one that popped up on UA-cam of Buvey offering to fight True Geordie that I found hilarious

    • @tpfootballanalysis6752
      @tpfootballanalysis6752 3 місяці тому +50

      @Vizeh they did a Tier List of all football podcasts on their show recently and when it came to the Kick off they ranked it fairly lowly and said it's dropped off in quality. Just very cringey and disrespectful really

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +48

      @@tpfootballanalysis6752 hahaha wow that is something, need to see that

    • @tpfootballanalysis6752
      @tpfootballanalysis6752 3 місяці тому +42

      @Vizeh think the favourite quote was Buvey saying it doesn't offer any credible insight anymore. Coming from the podcast where 2/3 or the members are clipped up constantly for awful takes haha

    • @thomashart3473
      @thomashart3473 3 місяці тому +29

      I mean, it's not too surprising to be honest. To me, Lawrence has always seemed decent. McKola/Jennings/Buvey have always come across as massive bellends.

  • @adityatiwary2221
    @adityatiwary2221 3 місяці тому +330

    I think it shows that youtube is treated as a business ultimately. Mark was saying it as well, the competition is so cutthroat that you try to force yourself up the ladder. I have no problem with Rory, Adam and Buvey trying to do that, but the manner in which they did (setting up the club within a week for the kick off splitting up) was really sad to watch. Especially Rory, as i remember him thanking Geordie for saving his life on the kick off christmas podcast just a year prior.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +47

      It was a fantastic video from Mark, I wished it just went better in end

    • @thebrainsinc5410
      @thebrainsinc5410 3 місяці тому +2

      They make money based on shows done, it was not like they were on salary. And that season full table shows were very rare, only 4/5 when it was almost mid season.
      So saying it was a week thing (launching the club)fails to address big issue with management that was ongoing. They couldnt do the shows and as lawerence mentioned they were not contractually obligated. Fair play to everyone, they moved on.

    • @datdude3327
      @datdude3327 3 місяці тому +12

      @@thebrainsinc5410like Mark said they were nobody’s till Geordie gave them this opportunity, and they backstab him the first chance they get, pretending he doesn’t even exist before now taking cheap shots at him. Pathetic really.

    • @davyprendergast82
      @davyprendergast82 3 місяці тому +9

      If they'd done it at any other time because they decided thanks TG, we've enjoyed it but now we're moving on, it would be cool. But they did it right at the moment that their friend who pretty much built their careers for them put his foot in it and was thrown under the bus right when he needed their support the most. Lost all personal respect. They could have the best opinions in the game and I won't watch a minute.

    • @Ldoggmillionaire
      @Ldoggmillionaire 3 місяці тому

      @@davyprendergast82take it you’ll never change from your very first job even if you get much more skilled with experience to get better opportunities as you owe your life to the first opportunity you get then?

  • @thogden
    @thogden 3 місяці тому +391

    We can never forget prime kick off…

  • @TommyGun180
    @TommyGun180 3 місяці тому +135

    Whilst I feel somewhat sorry for True Geordie. People often forget that Hughwizzy was treated similarly, once he left the Kick Off, and replaced by that odious cretin Mckola. Wizzy was essentially retconned from history, and suddenly the viewers had to pretend along with the kick off crew, that Mckola was "One of the lads" from the start. So, as far as I am concerned, it's a little bit of karma.

    • @thomashart3473
      @thomashart3473 3 місяці тому +13

      Aye I remember that now too. I got blocked by Kick Off on Twitter by asking about Hugh Wizzy when they did a photo shoot and presented it as if it was just them all along

    • @TommyGun180
      @TommyGun180 3 місяці тому +5

      How Huge was treated after he left. Was totally fucked up! Almost as if he never even existed. They never even acknowledge him, in a video they made about TKO's anniversary. The "New" intros, and graphics, were sickening. Like it was an attempt to brainwash viewers into accepting Mcrat.

    • @davyprendergast82
      @davyprendergast82 3 місяці тому

      @@TommyGun180 I'm not sure what to make of this. Nobody knows who tells the truth in front of a camera, and I didn't see what if anything Hugh Wizzy had to say about it, but TG did address comments asking why Hugh wasn't there in an episode of the kick off, and he spoke kindly about him but said that ultimately because Wizzy had his own successful channel, the economics of him appearing on the kick off didn't work (presumably meaning Wizzy wanted more money, which is fair enough, as he did have his own significant YT presence so he could demand more. TG signed off by saying he has nothing but respect for him and loves the lad but they couldn't thrash out a deal.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +27

      With Hugh from what I gathered it was a case of financial disagreement, I really wish he stayed on man

    • @babyray5643
      @babyray5643 3 місяці тому

      @@Vizehyea i heard this too. Although have no clue what their relationship to Hugh is nowadays, probably was always just business

  • @uriustosh
    @uriustosh 3 місяці тому +109

    The days of KickTV live streams and then early Kickoff streams was a thing a beauty to be real with ya'll

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +38

      The Hughwizzy and Statman Dave days🕊️

    • @cracchead123
      @cracchead123 3 місяці тому +1

      They even had Behzinga on as well, they were unmatched in their prime

    • @MattGFC1977
      @MattGFC1977 3 місяці тому +1

      @@cracchead123 What watching people watching football shouting and sreaming foul language for views oh please I d rather watch the football and for Mark Goldbridge he worst then The Sun.

    • @Twtgod
      @Twtgod 3 місяці тому

      ​@@cracchead123Yes I don't understand it.

    • @moeswagger2329
      @moeswagger2329 Місяць тому

      @@MattGFC1977 Isn't that basically watching football anywhere? 😂😂 Have you ever watched football in a pub or with friends?

  • @JKnight23
    @JKnight23 3 місяці тому +47

    I’d rather pull my ears off than listen to any of the PitchSide lads talk about football

    • @datdude3327
      @datdude3327 3 місяці тому +6

      they take a similar approach by pulling their brains out before each stream

  • @TheAlphaDingo
    @TheAlphaDingo 3 місяці тому +21

    I think Rory has shown himself to be a fake clickbait merchant who'd do anything to get some views. From pretending to be Brian's pal and doing a heartfelt 'thank you' video less than a year before his departure; to then seemingly cut and run without a word during a time Brian was under siege shows his true character.
    As Mark said in the podcast, the space has become oversaturated with mediocre clickbait merchants all doing the same thing and trying to get clicks with wild takes or over the top, unimaginative wind up 'banter'.
    Genuinely hope Loz and Brian can reconcile, their chemistry together was amazing

  • @Deyeezus
    @Deyeezus 3 місяці тому +148

    The goldbridge McKenna interview was a gem

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +39

      I really loved their 2nd half of the video when they delved deep into UA-cam and how it contrasts to mainstream entities

    • @matthalsey7808
      @matthalsey7808 3 місяці тому +4

      It’s Brent de cesare

    • @matthewnurse4962
      @matthewnurse4962 3 місяці тому

      @@matthalsey7808yes he is named after a medical procedure

    • @kaboutertje1561
      @kaboutertje1561 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@matthalsey7808what makes u say that? U feel like thats a gotcha? Genuinely trying to understand because if u google mark goldbridge it says his real name , he's not hiding it.

    • @lorddarlo6194
      @lorddarlo6194 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@kaboutertje1561He said on a TG Podcast due to working at West Midlands Police as a Fraud Detective he could do UA-cam but not as his birth name Brent De Ceasare so he choose Mark Goldbridge at that stuck, weather or not he has actually changed his name by Deedpol and legally to Mark Goldbridge now Idk but his actual Name wouldn't be On Google due to working in a high profile Job for the Police.

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika 3 місяці тому +41

    I'm pretty new to football youtube and I randomly found Lawrence's channel without knowing his history. I enjoy his videos.

    • @Robert-ju6ub
      @Robert-ju6ub 3 місяці тому +2

      Likewise

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +7

      That’s actually really cool

  • @ripstainmcripstain905
    @ripstainmcripstain905 3 місяці тому +74

    Definitely made my feel a bit bad for Brian.
    I can't be sure, but I don't think he deserved to be abandoned the way he was.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +37

      What Brian did was wrong, I don’t believe The Club itself was wrong to go seperate eventually, however to do it so quick and ignore everything I just find cold

    • @yungslack7311
      @yungslack7311 3 місяці тому +3

      Bruh no offence to westerners but this is the western way.
      As soon as someone is about to get cancelled people flee.

    • @kotori4865
      @kotori4865 3 місяці тому

      @@yungslack7311true

    • @castricv
      @castricv 3 місяці тому

      Yep. Cowards

    • @austinlarrimore6542
      @austinlarrimore6542 3 місяці тому

      @@yungslack7311England is apart of western society so it tracks

  • @antoinedoinell
    @antoinedoinell 3 місяці тому +17

    much needed discourse in the football social media space, thank you for your service

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you Antoine

  • @thefootballrundown
    @thefootballrundown 3 місяці тому +25

    As a fan of The Kick Off back in the day I completely agree that it’s nice to finally hear someone from it speak. I thought Laurence came across really well and it was a brilliant interview by Mark. Really good video tho by urself too and a good take on things.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +4

      Thank you mate, good to finally get some closure on it

  • @Vlog.anTravels
    @Vlog.anTravels 3 місяці тому +64

    The Kick Off was ELITE back then

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +33

      I really wished Hugh Wizzy stayed😢

    • @TheBigFish9
      @TheBigFish9 3 місяці тому +2

      Hugh leaving sparked the downfall for me, and especially the elephant in the room as it was never addressed.

    • @fredsflintstone3702
      @fredsflintstone3702 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@TheBigFish9 They actually adressed that. Basically Hugh thought he was more money worth, than TG offered.

    • @TheBigFish9
      @TheBigFish9 3 місяці тому +1

      @@fredsflintstone3702 now you’ve said it that does ring a bell he said it in one of his streams about worth. 👍

  • @RabonaTV
    @RabonaTV 3 місяці тому +11

    I too am part of the "few friends in football YT" club.🤝

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +1

      Have we just become best friends?

    • @RabonaTV
      @RabonaTV 3 місяці тому

      @@Vizeh by default but also by choice.💘

    • @tylernororis2416
      @tylernororis2416 3 місяці тому

      we love you Adrian ‼️

  • @darshannarayan5483
    @darshannarayan5483 3 місяці тому +8

    The club never reached the heights of kick off and felt disconnected from day 1

  • @IEnigmazZx
    @IEnigmazZx 3 місяці тому +61

    Can you do a video on the downfall of Stoke mate, we are in serious trouble at the bottom on the championship with no way of getting out of it now, only a few years ago we were beating Liverpool and playing in Europe

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +28

      Great shout, got plans of a Stoke video in near future

    • @IEnigmazZx
      @IEnigmazZx 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Vizehthanks mate, look forward to it - love the videos

    • @Millwall1885.
      @Millwall1885. 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Vizehcan you do millwall

    • @davyprendergast82
      @davyprendergast82 3 місяці тому +1

      It all started with the board/fans deciding Tony Pulis wasn't good enough anymore. Not sure what fans of a small city club can expect other than consistent mid table prem finishes. Stick or twist. They twisted and it didn't work.

    • @ThexMJT
      @ThexMJT 3 місяці тому +1

      HITC Sevens, sure they did a video of downfall of Stoke

  • @c3920
    @c3920 3 місяці тому +9

    Best part of MG's interview with Loz was when he called out "The Kickoff" for never or rarely ever reading super chats. There were whole live streams where you could see one super chat after another ($$$) and the hosts never said a word about it other than, "some people in the chat are asking about..."

  • @erica2980
    @erica2980 3 місяці тому +13

    I really don't understand the appeal of the club. Why would you want what is basically the kickoff except the two charismatic and likeable people aren't there.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +1

      Damn

    • @fleischer236
      @fleischer236 3 місяці тому

      A bit harsh

    • @dekooks1543
      @dekooks1543 3 місяці тому

      except the club is much better than TKO now with their crew of insufferable nonces

  • @snakebite002
    @snakebite002 3 місяці тому +7

    I don't really care about who fell out with who or for why. I just watch these podcasts because i find them entertaining. These people aren't my friends, I have my own life

  • @ThroneFC
    @ThroneFC 3 місяці тому +22

    I get what you're saying. Football UA-camrs need to realize that you can make people click on your content by bringing them intriguing topics, not necessarily hate towards players or clickbaity opinions.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +5

      It can be a mix but you got to have it balanced I feel

    • @120rikeshlawoju8
      @120rikeshlawoju8 3 місяці тому

      How will they realize when what they are doing works, gets views and is much easier?

    • @theojenner1902
      @theojenner1902 3 місяці тому

      Strong agree, I go to UA-cam football for the tactics and discussion on where a game is won and lost. Four four two are brilliant at this. Tifo used to, but haven’t gone off the boil

  • @Tommy-vf3gk
    @Tommy-vf3gk 3 місяці тому +15

    I don't even think it is football youtube but all of forms of football media where the opinions are just rage bait. When football media does this and you then look at the fans responses to it, I question how is it that people don't understand the football games that they have watched.
    One of the biggest problems in football media and with fans opinion wise is getting rid of players and managers, when rome was not built in a day and they need time. Before with a young promising talent you would slowly integrate them into the squad over a period of years, but now they are instantly being chucked in and expected to produce results. A manager has a good season at a new job then is instantly wanted by other clubs.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +4

      That’s a very good point, especially in Football Journalism it’s much down one form of content and any other route is thrown to the side

  • @yasin_GD
    @yasin_GD 3 місяці тому +15

    The football UA-cam space especially on the fan pundit side seems like a snakepit

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +5

      Sadly it’s just how it goes, it’s so important to build your own platform than rely on others

  • @marcosguerrero8252
    @marcosguerrero8252 3 місяці тому +39

    We are getting spoiled this week

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +9

      Cheers Marcos

  • @EverythingSportHQ
    @EverythingSportHQ 2 місяці тому +3

    I love how since the Goldbridge interview football UA-cam is now being referred to as 'the space' 🤣🤣

  • @efrainmendez2623
    @efrainmendez2623 3 місяці тому +150

    The whole The Club crew did True Geordie so wrong

    • @Nocular
      @Nocular 3 місяці тому

      It all happened so fast, utterly shameless... U can just tell Rory is a horrible little shit show of a human being... A bitter little snake.

    • @iseekq
      @iseekq 3 місяці тому +12

      No they didn’t. They had every right to leave.

    • @donnyannessa654
      @donnyannessa654 3 місяці тому +37

      @@iseekq Not the way they did. Laurence did it the right way. The rest of them took advantage

    • @iseekq
      @iseekq 3 місяці тому +5

      @@donnyannessa654 What do you mean "the way they left"? They just left. End of.

    • @donnyannessa654
      @donnyannessa654 3 місяці тому +2

      @@iseekq Stole sponsors.

  • @alanmckenna5608
    @alanmckenna5608 3 місяці тому +3

    You're a thoughtful guy, dude. That's a superpower these days.

  • @JTB-di8yj
    @JTB-di8yj 3 місяці тому +7

    That Chavski Cnut Rory is the worst

  • @thumper6272
    @thumper6272 3 місяці тому +3

    I love hearing your opinion because, more often than not, it mimics my own. It creates a connection and the authenticity you spoke about in this video. It's why I continually watch you nowadays. Keep up the good work. I look forward to watching your videos.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +3

      I can’t thank you enough for this comment, I don’t know exactly what I offer that’s different to have this community but this has truly made my day, thank you Thumper❤

  • @digjayd
    @digjayd 3 місяці тому +2

    I liked the introspection from Lawrence on why the trio left to create the club, they did not give enough buy into the kickoff so as to show value to them as the creators.

  • @kinyemibola4386
    @kinyemibola4386 3 місяці тому

    I hope this channel grows! This guy is authentic and I like how you focus on teams away from the big league.

  • @TehStormOG
    @TehStormOG 3 місяці тому +57

    mark goldbridge titles every video with "DISGRACE" or "CRISIS" literally the biggest grifter out of all of them

    • @stretfordendred
      @stretfordendred 3 місяці тому +4

      👍 100%

    • @musician4776
      @musician4776 3 місяці тому +2

      I’d much rather Paddock.

    • @LoCoAde87
      @LoCoAde87 3 місяці тому +7

      The titles are absolutely an issue. I hate them too. But his general football opinion contradicts it a lot of the time and is fair.
      I wish he stopped with the bs titles but alas.

    • @bb5979
      @bb5979 3 місяці тому +3

      Thats how to mkve on youtube. Its the content that matters.

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge 3 місяці тому +6

      His actual content is fine and he seems fair and balanced, even for a Manchester United fan. Agreed about the ridiculous video titles though. 😅

  • @melmintg4320
    @melmintg4320 3 місяці тому +2

    You’re right mate, it was a lovely bit of closure. I used to watch the old kick off, religiously.
    I still have love for Loz & TG.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +1

      Was a great video by Mark

  • @mrishjj5820
    @mrishjj5820 3 місяці тому +1

    When Laurence started doing podcasts and the kick off with True Geordie, i really liked him. He was a good partner for Geordie and i wont forget those days. Hope the best for the guy.

  • @Pinky_T
    @Pinky_T 3 місяці тому +1

    Tbf to Rio when you watch the whole clip you can tell he’s pretty much only saying that about Arteta to wind up the Arsenal fan - it was tongue-in-cheek as much as anything. Obviously, a comment like that from someone like him is always gonna create discourse, but it’s important to discuss these things in context

  • @zuffin1864
    @zuffin1864 3 місяці тому +7

    My favorite channels are the smaller ones covering low coverage leagues like the Belgian League or League of Ireland

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому

      The Sweeper is a fantastic podcast that covers some incredible topics like that!

  • @shujaman7868
    @shujaman7868 3 місяці тому +2

    I feel it's important to point out how Rory and Adam said in one Christmas podcast with TG that Brian saved them from deep shit, I remember Rory saying he had a child and was poor and Brian helped him out of there.

  • @Cocopuff55
    @Cocopuff55 3 місяці тому

    Saw you on Back of the Net with Sam today, enjoyed your honesty and passion and started following your channel.

  • @24ok1
    @24ok1 3 місяці тому +6

    SdS is clear now anyways. Guys that actually grew up with each other and part of friendship circles from school with a few guests that have helped

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +6

      That’s a huge point, they were friends first for many of Sharky and the boys and built a platform off that, it feels genuine and that’s why it comes across so well

    • @24ok1
      @24ok1 3 місяці тому

      @@Vizehabsolutely

  • @CollinMcFC
    @CollinMcFC 3 місяці тому

    I only like you more with every upload mate, really enjoy hearing your insight and getting a genuine perspective on things happening inside the football creator space, from someone inside the space. Keep it going brother 💪

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 3 місяці тому +4

    James Lawrence Allcott and Mark Goldbridge are great for footy content, TG is good for fight/boxing stuff though.

  • @neilgannon205
    @neilgannon205 3 місяці тому +21

    Mark Goldbridge is the epitomy of a clickbait youtuber
    He's probably the worst one

  • @rorrt
    @rorrt 3 місяці тому +2

    One issue for me.. Was when TTG appeared on Steven Bartlett's podcast, "The Diary of a Wanker".
    And he said out loud. Not just in his own brain. But in his indoor voice. "I DESERVE THIS.. I DESERVE TO BE LEADER IN MY OWN FIELD".
    That was one of the big moments I was like "yeahhhh, I don't like HIM anymore.."
    Also, towards the end of the old lineup, of TTG, Loz, Adam, Buvey and Roryboy. The videos they were uploading, were more and more fracturious and bitty. Like there was a video about the TV coverage of Erikkson's heart attack during the Euros. And it deteriorated into attacking Loz for basically saying "..the decision to cut away was wrong, but the BBC didn't have control of the camera feeds, and probably the guys back in the UK studio weren't ready to be cut back to. And yeah, it's really bad what was done". And it just got tense.. and boring...

  • @babyray5643
    @babyray5643 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video Viz! Was hoping you’d make a video about the interview and you jumped right on it, keep up the good work mate!

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +1

      Cheers man, means a lot

  • @mbofftheradar
    @mbofftheradar 2 місяці тому +1

    I just have one question; if we throw PR out of the window, who is really at fault for this and who could have prevented all of this and why???

  • @LoCoAde87
    @LoCoAde87 3 місяці тому +4

    My only issue with Golbridge is the titles which are usually holding different option to the actual video. All rage bait titles. I get why he does it ultimately, but man, it is the one thing that does, and will always irk me.
    His football opinion on Liverpool is very fair away from Man U it needs saying too, this season in particular he has shown little to non bias, applying nuance and context to Liverpool, be it the call against Spurs, Arsenal and City this season, because not because he merely cares for Liverpool, but he cares for the state of football.

  • @yanhanna
    @yanhanna 3 місяці тому +5

    Very true, anfield agenda is annoying, most of it is click bait.

    • @PaddyMcMe
      @PaddyMcMe 3 місяці тому

      Oh it's fucking awful. And he's such a fucking cry baby.

    • @wdred
      @wdred 3 місяці тому +1

      Was one of his first 250 subscribers. Unsubscribed 3 months ago. Pure clickbait and a lot of talking down to his subs.

    • @PaddyMcMe
      @PaddyMcMe 3 місяці тому

      @@wdred Exactly. And getting upset when Klopp says pretty reasonable stuff like 'Our fans should have reasonable expectations.'

  • @artate
    @artate 3 місяці тому +10

    I would’ve agreed with you about The Club being wrong for leaving before I watched Laurence’s video. Laurence said they had no ownership, no contract for regular shows and things had been bubbling away under the surface. They (Rory, Adam, some extents Buvey) became 3/5 of the show but weren’t treated like that. So I don’t think it’s too surprising or unreasonable that they moved on.

    • @hamonryechinaski180
      @hamonryechinaski180 2 місяці тому

      Maybe, but that ignores them being able to push their own fledgling channels on back of kick off, often uploading stuff after the show.
      Their OTT reaction proved TG was right not to give them a piece of Kick Off.
      Mckenna is the worst of them.

  • @scrum7
    @scrum7 3 місяці тому +14

    The irony is that this video is exactly what the UA-camr is criticising

  • @micckeymol4396
    @micckeymol4396 3 місяці тому +7

    Just because the industry is cutthroat doesn't mean fans shouldn't judge your character when you stab your friends in the back. Snakes.
    Fair play to Laurence for giving Brian some leeway and sticking by him after the incident.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому

      I don’t blame them for wanting to leave, I just think the transparency had to be key and from Brian’s comments it’s clear that it was all cold hearted

    • @micckeymol4396
      @micckeymol4396 3 місяці тому

      @@Vizeh it's not just the transparency, it's the the fact they abandoned him in a time of need.

    • @olliemccartney9850
      @olliemccartney9850 3 місяці тому +1

      @@micckeymol4396 Your view on this situation is very narrow-minded and too Brian based.
      It was also their time of need. Rory, Buvey and Adam did not have contracts for the Kick Off, and Brian and his idiotic loud mouth lost multiples sources of revenue which would have been used to pay these guys. You simply cannot expect three grown men with homes, families and responsibilities to stay in that environment. Brians own actions blew their trust, simple as. They were fully in their own right to leave in any fashion and do whatever they wanted.
      So no, they didn't stab him in the back, they did what they needed to, which was to provide for themselves and their families. If Brian valued them so much, he would've offered them contracts, but he didn't.

    • @micckeymol4396
      @micckeymol4396 3 місяці тому

      @@olliemccartney9850 the difference being that Brian simply made a mistake whereas those 3 made a conscious decision to completely abandon him.
      Imagine how anyone would feel if 3 of your close friends just discarded you in such a way after you made a mistake.
      They could've used this situation as leverage to get some shares in the company and thus give them more incentive to rebuild rather than quit.
      They didn't have no other option but to quit, and they didn't seem to even want to try and help.
      Snakes.

    • @olliemccartney9850
      @olliemccartney9850 3 місяці тому

      @@micckeymol4396 What do you think Rorys wife and daughter would want? For him to stay at a company where the boss doesn’t offer him a contract and jeopardises the already non-guaranteed payments, or for him to leave and gain financial stability elsewhere on a permanent contract? I think they’d prefer financial stability.
      If they were my close friends, I would have offered them permanent contracts and would not have jeopardised their families livelihoods. Conversely, if I had a company where I didn’t offer my friends contracts and I blew all of our sponsors, I would fully understand and actually expect them to part ways with me and go another path. I’d clearly not be trust worthy.
      It’s funny how you, a no one to these guys, calls them snakes and doesn’t understand their side of the story, but Lawrence, who ACTUALLY knew them and the in an outs of the situation, said he completely understands why they left and that they were in their own right to do so. I think I’ll trust him over you.

  • @KristianC1994
    @KristianC1994 3 місяці тому +8

    It's one thing the guys from The Club going and doing their own thing, it's another pretending they were never on The Kick Off and slyly mocking it even, like they would be anything without Brian and that show. While I don't necessarily agree with the way they left, I do understand it, but to never give props to Brian for giving them a career is pretty grim. Side note, how anyone can actually watch The Club is beyond me, 10 minutes of their vacuous shtick gives me brain rot.

    • @tarmaskhalifa871
      @tarmaskhalifa871 3 місяці тому +1

      that's why u should never give someone a career. Now I understand why mark is so serious about anyone going and doing content with someone else.

    • @dekooks1543
      @dekooks1543 3 місяці тому

      dont act like they didnt MAKE the show. The whole appeal of it was to watch them talk about their opinions ... Look at TKO now, it's a shadow of what it was

  • @SINGHDASLAYA
    @SINGHDASLAYA 3 місяці тому +2

    The Kick Off was great but when they really started to bring Buvey in as a permanent member, I really believe the beginning of the end was happening. The dynamic didn't come across as authentic anymore and it also took a big hit after Hugh left for very justifiable reasons in his own right. I don't know Buvey but he gives the impression of a troublemaker and it wouldn't surprise me if he started to spin the wheels for the backstabbing that took place towards the kickoff. Sometimes people become the characters they portray and Buvey gave off a narcissistic rage-baiter vibe.

  • @thejungwookim
    @thejungwookim 3 місяці тому +5

    1️⃣ Ragebait from footballing podcasts are just the natural product of clickbaiting and disingenuous retention, sucks it has to be that way
    2️⃣ As a former Lawrence Mckenna hater, I will say that he's matured the most out of The Kick Off and genuinely feel bad that he had to deal with the brunt of the downfall. His opinions on his personal channel nowadays are usually well-thought while still coming from passion.
    3️⃣ I tried watching The Club when it first came out, but it was so difficult to watch as it became so corporate. If I was a new viewer I would have refused that the guys were friends outside of the show with every member looking like they work at a dead-end part-time job.
    4️⃣ I'm so thankful that football content creators can grow if they out enough passion and hard work into it and also reinvent themselves into better channels like you had done. I look forward to what else you got to say about the footballing sphere. Cheers.

  • @philiptaylor8223
    @philiptaylor8223 3 місяці тому

    These are strange times in a strange land.

  • @christopherreynolds9254
    @christopherreynolds9254 3 місяці тому +5

    The Club is just a poor man’s Kick Off, I think. Their unseemly click bait takes and comments are really embarrassing at times. And I got the Impression that Lawrence wanted to give his perspective without creating drama when he was talking to Goldbridge. If he had been completely honest he would have just said the obvious - the Club lads had bitten the hand that fed them by dropping TG at the earliest opportunity and shamelessly trying to re-create the Kick off. The trio act like they had something BEFORE working with Brian , but they had nothing of note

    • @dekooks1543
      @dekooks1543 3 місяці тому

      but brian had NOTHING before them either. They were the whole appeal of TKO. Fact is, TKO is just bland now with a bunch of insufferable nonces with the personalities of a tree.

  • @DigontoZahid-lc7kt
    @DigontoZahid-lc7kt 3 місяці тому +5

    Mckola was absolutely not irrelevant before kick off lol goldbridge said that for such obvious reasons 😂😂😂...

  • @TruRedCRIME
    @TruRedCRIME 3 місяці тому +1

    Personally the original kick off was the best. Pitchside is the worst, they’re on their phones half the time. Anyway a good vid sir.

  • @elder_tomato3501
    @elder_tomato3501 3 місяці тому +4

    Would love to see your own podcast in the styles of your videos

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +1

      I think a podcast of me talking for hours people may hate

  • @Truebro79
    @Truebro79 3 місяці тому +2

    Buisness and Entertainment in the past: Make People happy = Money.
    Buisness and Entertainment today: Make people upset and angry = Money

  • @GMulls94
    @GMulls94 3 місяці тому +3

    I watched the club a bunch when it first came out but honestly the quality of content just isn't good at all and very clickbaity. The nice thing of the Kick Off is that it did feel like more of a conversation.

  • @holidaylightsva2515
    @holidaylightsva2515 3 місяці тому +1

    The thing i have noticed about football UA-cam is content creators with Agendas...as an Arsenal fan we have a few members specifically in a location in Spain that enjoys Arsenal losing...I cant enjoy the club like i did the Kick Off...but maybe it is probably due to understanding most that what is said is for clicks and views...I do help out on on a few small podcasts but it is done for fun not clicks or views....great video
    ..keep up good work

    • @harrypotterstories3291
      @harrypotterstories3291 3 місяці тому +1

      i know who u mentioning cant stand the dude but one thing that annoys me more is that everytime a big club have a blip in their season with a few losses almost every football content creator calls it a crisis or thehy are like maybe we should sack the manager

    • @holidaylightsva2515
      @holidaylightsva2515 3 місяці тому

      @harrypotterstories3291 it's seems abnormal...I watch other sports and don't see the irrational reactions that I do in this sport...

  • @DannyKeogh94
    @DannyKeogh94 3 місяці тому

    Great video and some interesting insights. Though I’d still say we don’t know the full ins and outs of what went on, and likely (rightly) never will. In the podcast Loz actually says “me and Brian don’t have a relationship anymore”. Which is very very interesting because he continued to do stuff with him for a month or so after the incident.
    Think what you want about McKola, Rory and Buvey, but I think what is also fair to say is that they were left very exposed both financially and “reputationally” by the comments made. Also let’s remember that there was an ‘apology’ video made days after which could have saved the situation somewhat but was actually such a shambles that it made it worse and almost made a mockery of the situation. Loz pretty much admitted this too. And let’s be honest but who’s to say who should and who shouldn’t be offended by the comments made. What if certain individuals were offended and it made them think twice about wanting to be mates with someone who makes comments such as that?
    I don’t know, I do think that The Club lads need to stop poking little sly jibes here and there on their streams, a couple at first were relatively funny but after that it’s gotten a bit daft. Just pack it in. And I do think they should have had it out with TG, got round a table and aired it to each other, then go separate ways. But at the same time…. They do have their own careers, own lives, own families to think about and Brian had put his foot in it a few times, so can also see their reasoning for doing their own thing.
    Just trying to see both sides, I think a lot of videos weigh heavily one way or the other. And if you don’t like Buvey or Rory etc then it’s natural to want to label them as snakes etc.
    But good video. Subbed. some interesting stuff 👍🏼

  • @animamaster
    @animamaster 3 місяці тому +7

    This is why I hate when football youtubers are successful. I don't mean you doing well and making money.
    I mean, when you are so successful that it's not about the love of making content anymore. To them, they lose that passion and only want to do it for the money

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +2

      I think that happens with a lot of people, it’s healthy to have a group of mates outside the space

  • @dcnole
    @dcnole 3 місяці тому

    My read on The Club situation is that Loz was fine with them doing it, but wishes they had gone about it a little differently. But I also take him at his word that the sting he felt from that has ebbed over time a bit, and he's kind of ready to just move past it. The failure to give those 3 guys a contract and cut them into a share of the steady KO income created a situation that was basically begging for them to be poached by someone trying to establish a competitor product. And that was TG and Loz's choice to let that situation linger. But, the coldness of the departure can still be critiqued.

  • @fillphd
    @fillphd 3 місяці тому +3

    The problem is that the average football fan wants to hear the outrageous, inflammatory stuff, so you get idiots like Rory and Lawrence all over the algorithm

    • @laurencemckenna
      @laurencemckenna 3 місяці тому +2

      Name one outrageous take I’ve had.

  • @Pointofnoreturn-du5oe
    @Pointofnoreturn-du5oe 3 місяці тому +2

    Goldfish and the United Stand are the worse he supports Forrest to start off with, he's so far up he's own arse it's unreal and he makes loads of stuff up too

  • @ROFLewis
    @ROFLewis 3 місяці тому

    Content has been great lately mate, keep up the good work!🎉

  • @dragonofthewest8305
    @dragonofthewest8305 3 місяці тому

    You're channel is growing bro 1 million soon come❤

  • @ThousandRanch
    @ThousandRanch 3 місяці тому +1

    I agree with you about the clip bait and saying outrageous things for views, but that has been happening in mainstream media for years and years

    • @dekooks1543
      @dekooks1543 3 місяці тому

      not only that, they invented it

  • @craigratio
    @craigratio 3 місяці тому +2

    The Club really just strikes me as a bunch of guys who know absolutely nothing about football talking about football. It really is terrible, the balding guy and the brummie sound utterly clueless at all times.

  • @user-bv5lc1nf5d
    @user-bv5lc1nf5d 22 дні тому

    It's the internet, nothing and nobody should ever be trusted 100%.
    From Football to Trainspotting channels, there's plenty of the 'oh look at me I'm precocious' types.
    Also, rivals will turn against those they dislike - I remember Adam Thurston getting bullied off of You Tube because he wanted to do his own thing and not be at the behest of others.

  • @jamesnicholasbroughton9063
    @jamesnicholasbroughton9063 3 місяці тому +1

    As a Blackburn fan, I might avoid the next one.

  • @aaa6072
    @aaa6072 3 місяці тому +1

    for the most part chasing views for interaction and money has become more important than offering any rational insight into football.

  • @DeanoWeb
    @DeanoWeb 3 місяці тому

    Can also that the The Fellas studios knew that they would make money with them and got them onto their podcast group quick

  • @alirezahodaee9150
    @alirezahodaee9150 3 місяці тому +12

    It's also fascinating that Rory and Lawrence did a video together like 3 days ago 👀

    • @wesley5900
      @wesley5900 3 місяці тому

      On sky or

    • @alirezahodaee9150
      @alirezahodaee9150 3 місяці тому

      @@wesley5900 on Rory's channel. Day before EFL Cup final

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +8

      I saw, hope to see Loz be given more opportunity

    • @alirezahodaee9150
      @alirezahodaee9150 3 місяці тому

      @@Vizeh same.

    • @alirezahodaee9150
      @alirezahodaee9150 3 місяці тому

      @@wesley5900 on Rory's channel before the EFL Cup game.

  • @snipedotgenius
    @snipedotgenius 3 місяці тому

    Vizeh your a real one for this video here

  • @TheFudbalKlub
    @TheFudbalKlub 3 місяці тому +1

    Man's smashing out the good stuff

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому +2

      Much love bro❤

  • @thesamaffliction1572
    @thesamaffliction1572 3 місяці тому +1

    Lawrence is a weird one because I think he was the most emotionally effected by this because his family, career and livelihood were affected more so than the other guys that stepped away. I think he’s a huge talent that isn’t getting recognition he deserves. Yeah his jokes and presentation wasn’t the best but I always saw it as a character to rile up the others rather than him genuinely. He has definitely been the worst hit and fair play to him for speaking while still being respectful to them all even when they hurt him and it’d be valid to be angry and bitchy about that scenario

  • @dashawnballard52
    @dashawnballard52 3 місяці тому +3

    The way they went about it was wrong, but we can’t say after the Muslim joke, they didn’t want to get dragged with him . And ngl it’s seems like people like the club over the kickoff rn

    • @dekooks1543
      @dekooks1543 3 місяці тому +1

      of course they do. It's basically TKO without the bad side

  • @MichaelCooney-zh8je
    @MichaelCooney-zh8je 3 місяці тому +1

    Nothing wrong with them leaving but to leave the way they did was terrible. Not even a thank you to the guy who gave them a career.

    • @dekooks1543
      @dekooks1543 3 місяці тому

      the guy who gave them a career ? they GAVE HIM a show. There would be no kick off to talk about if it werent for them ... think maybe ?

  • @ahashi6
    @ahashi6 3 місяці тому

    Bunch of Amateurs is a great channel. Dorking has taken the headlines in the National League and is a huge part of the channel. But they now follow Raynes Park Vale (another non league club) and they do a great job getting the fan perspective while taking you behind the scenes at a pro/semi-pro football club.

  • @brianmunoz3403
    @brianmunoz3403 3 місяці тому +2

    I think you’re a key contributor to the UA-cam football problem. Ever since you had your child, your quality of video fell off. You implement more fallacies, more biases, and are willing to tear players apart in order to make an emotional appeal. I really think you should reconsider your work ethic and focus on where you’re actually trying to go.

  • @saure22
    @saure22 3 місяці тому +1

    The people who switched up in loz and Brian were never true fans, the real ones understood.

  • @vl7721
    @vl7721 3 місяці тому +1

    idk if its my end but is the audio not very loud?

  • @sunoolee9467
    @sunoolee9467 3 місяці тому

    It's quite telling that The Kick Off has deleted all of the videos containing the guys from The Club from its channel...

  • @highbury10
    @highbury10 3 місяці тому +1

    It's one word- MONEY!

  • @wayneduckett1961
    @wayneduckett1961 3 місяці тому +2

    As a local rival fan, I actually enjoy your channel. If you are going to talk about Rovers, do so and not as a Burnley fan. Open and honest. We want them gone. The Rao’s and Waggott are ruining us.

  • @ProfessionalNonce
    @ProfessionalNonce 3 місяці тому

    I remember when you made a video about football youtube thumbnails,youtube football is just weird innit

  • @CFCVideos
    @CFCVideos 3 місяці тому +2

    This really was not a good video tbh. You said so much without saying anything. Your other work is much better. Felt like you did it just for the views to profit from Marks video.

    • @Vizeh
      @Vizeh  3 місяці тому

      Looking at the comments of the video pal, and the great discussions people are having
      You’re in the minority

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 3 місяці тому +1

      Mark who? Goldbridhe?

    • @LordSeth-hf8ew
      @LordSeth-hf8ew 3 місяці тому +1

      good discussion in a bad video, you can keep making this content which you think is calling them out but in reality its more just sinking to or below there levels, low effort easy views as the majority of football youtube has turned on the club and pitchside as you did your self

  • @reayres
    @reayres 3 місяці тому +1

    reading some of the comments and its apparent many of you are young without family or responsibilities (beyond paying for things you want - kids, rent, bills, mortgage, future). I watched Mark Goldbridge's interview with Laurence and it was incredibly well done. I also think that Laurence was incredibly understanding of what occurred - very mature to understand that they had to do what they had to do to ensure they were ok. Rory has a young child I believe and honestly, no matter how difficult, that child would take precedence over friends - they have to. Laurence said he has been untouchable until recently. As a father of a young child, that would not have been thinkable for Rory.
    Could things have been done differently - yes! But Laurence admits they did things wrong. By keeping them on the "payroll" and not giving them part of the company (something Laurence said they should have done) TG and Laurence kept part of their relationship as business. I don't blame "the club" boys for doing the same. For all the commenting about how they put the kickoff down the list in the tiers, I didn't see that but honestly, it isn't what it was. It is a shadow of itself. It's what brought be back to watch EPL - I loved it. Like sitting with the gang watching and ribbing each other. It's not that anymore. I hope it does find its feet again.

  • @NoName-xn2qw
    @NoName-xn2qw 3 місяці тому

    They’re cowards for never acknowledging it

  • @stephenfox9429
    @stephenfox9429 3 місяці тому +3

    Maybe he's turned it around in the last few years, I go out of my way to avoid his content, but Goldbridge absolutely made his name through rage bait.
    He spent years trying to recapture the magic of AFTV, just with United.

  • @colcostello160
    @colcostello160 3 місяці тому +2

    The reality is your all sad.

  • @chicocannon
    @chicocannon 3 місяці тому

    Goldbridge was ridiculous when he began and you can see other creators trying to copy him. Now they do this while Goldbridge is becoming far more moderate and level headed but still gives a taster to the fans from the early days to keep them happy.

  • @citiiblockrecords
    @citiiblockrecords 3 місяці тому

    Hit the griddy my G

  • @MrFooFighter13
    @MrFooFighter13 3 місяці тому +2

    Separating Goldbridge from the rage/click-baiters is extremely charitable.

  • @nichobee
    @nichobee 3 місяці тому

    You're the best football youtuber, genuinely

  • @user-te9ni9hp7f
    @user-te9ni9hp7f 3 місяці тому

    I remember 2016-2020 football content, I remember during summer of 2020 with all the football during that time, the aftv streams, kick off, the thogden lives, espn fc. Tho a shit time the football and the football content made up for that rlly depressing and shitty time

  • @sunoolee9467
    @sunoolee9467 3 місяці тому

    Loz just did a video with Rory Jennings for the Liverpool vs Chelsea cup final recently so I don't think he has contempt for the Club guys.