@@ANGELOFDARKification The only one who can compete with EA FC is PES. It will take another developer literally decades of development to compete with the infrastructure that EA has built. Love EA or hate them, you have to agree what they built with their sports franchises took decades of work. (This is coming from a guy who absolutely hates the gambling culture in gaming that EA started)
@@-VForValhalla- PES died a long time ago though, eFootball is a joke. I think FIFA will partner with 2k or someone to make a football game. There's a couple free ones coming too. It will take time and EA will never completely die but the competition will at least wake everyone up to make a good game instead of a casino.
EA lost 1.FIFA Title 2.FIFA World Cup 3.FIFA Club World Cup Solutions: 1.The realism and and other Branding deals are what kept people playing, the title only helped solidify them at the start to beat out there competitors, now that there heavily solidify the Title “FIFA” doesn’t really matter anymore. 2.EA only lost the specifics of FIFAs 2 trophies( Title,naming of details etc. ) so if they wanted to host a World Cup / Club World Cup in game they could just change the name of specifics at the cost of a little bit of authenticity they didn’t really need EA Gained Lots of money due to the fact they didn’t have to keep on paying for the licences every year.
You forgot to say that a big thing that Pro Evolution Soccer had and that gave them a boost in the battle was the Champions League. And after they lost that was the end.
They had "Master League" and "Become a Legend" modes which were crazy popular (ML ever since PS One days) but their licencing problems, awful forced animations and ribotic movements around 2010 pushed a lot of people away. At that time, FIFA improved... A LOT. But it all ended when they switched to this dogwater engine they using rn and now both games are ass...
PES was still lagging behind FIFA when they had the champions league license. They needed to invest much more in licensing and exclusivity to stay alive.
@@fu6817 That's a fact, I remember that change, suddenly Fifa became just as good as a simulator than PES but with all the licenses. At the same time PES got sucked so bad that for the next year EA mastered the engine and it was game over.
A think he wld off like cannavaro jst brasil had Ron Riv N Dinhio. But best ever jst ahead of lahm. Shld be 2 balon doir attacker/ defender gk dmf n obv defenders then attackers midfielders.
@@KingKong11730 FIFA has a monopoly on the word FIFA. They control the word FIFA. They are the sole owners. FIFA was able to monopolize the name which means that the supply is extremely low and for that reason they can boost prices due to EA's high demand for the name. Idk how tf that's not a monopoly. Please explain what it is if it's not a monopoly.
@@JusticeExplorerdude, that’s not what monopoly means!!! You are talking about a copy right of the NAME FIFA, that’s not a monopoly. Seriously if that was a monopoly, every fricking company on earth is a monopoly because EVERY business owns their name and no one can use it. Apple, Amazon, Google, Target, the chicken shop around the corner. THATS NOT A MONOPOLY and not how monopolies work so calm down and look up what defines a monopoly. Look up the case google just lost and why they lost it, an antitrust lawsuit, or Apples App Store case in europe, that will tell you what a monopoly is and how it works. Has nothing to do with the Name FIFA.
Actually, the first "race" was between Konami's International Superstar Soccer and FIFA and International Superstar Soccer blew FIFA out in every single aspect except of licensing. FIFA didn't really make it super mainstream until the release of FIFA 98 Road to the World Cup which took the world by storm.
Man that game was 🔥 back on the day. I sunk sooo many houts into that and the 🐐ed soundtrack of Fifa 99 imo. But this is pure nostalgia talking on my part 😂
I can still remember queuing up in Beatties (a UK department store) behind other kids waiting to play the store copy. It might look silly now, but to a child who didn't have his own video games console, playing it was just about the most fun ever!
exclusive licensing should never had happened. its so obvious that the overwhelming majority of consumers would go to where they can play the same club they support. Konami never had the money to compete with EA for licenses. now EA has a monopoly on a lot of sports games just because they have the money for exclusive licenses, and because of that they have no competition and with no competition means they barely improve the game each year. Look at MLB, EA doesn't have the license for that sport so they themselves don't bother making a competitor because they know they can't compete without the license.
FIFA actually tried hard when they were the underdog, that's what led to the improvements in 10,11,12,13 etc. Once PES fell off, they had no competition and just monopolised football games and turned it into a casino
EA FC is too much show business and very less gameplay. Whats the point of being able to change kits in a football game but not being able to pass the ball properly...
The best FIFA version was the "Around the world" 1998 edition... qualifying rounds against Maldives, or choosing local teams in the malaysian league :)
Part of the reason the FIFA was asking for so much money was because EA is making an insane amount of money JUST from Ultimate Team. They were pulling in $650M from it over 5 years ago and it's just constantly gone up and up. For FY2021, EA made $1.62BILLION just from FIFA Ultimate Team microtransactions. And every year they push toward more and more of this cash cow, especially behind sponsored streamers (who are basically just paid hype men), and a business model and system design that steers people more toward needing to spend money to get more players that they can flip into better player squad challenges. And all this while some of their seriously great design options just get left to be "updated" like once every 5 years, which often means removing elements that fans liked, then putting them back in years later and calling them "new". The absolute bastardization that the career modes underwent in the last 10-15 years is saddening, but gotta make sure to have the big money FC Points packs available just months into the game! (And let's not forget that they intentionally make sure that the Points costs for packs and the amounts you can get from buying Points NEVER MATCH UP, just to elicit feelings that the added Points are just being wasted and therefore pushing people to spend on ANOTHER top-up of that virtual wallet, since "Well, it's not as much since I've already got some points in there..." FIFA is a hideous corrupt organization. EA are a hive of greedy manipulative bastards. Unfortunately, they both end up putting out good products, which sucks. But EA just keeps looking worse and worse to me every year.
How people can sit and work for months and months, on their art or with technical abilities.. for us, the gamers. To then just hand it over to EA. What happened? Is the developing world just a soul eating dystopia, or soon-to-be monopoly? Kinda like concert tickets slowly have become. When EA sits on the majority, they will control the prize
I wouldn't say EA make a good product. It's a licensed product and that's what's important. From a technical perspective there's nothing that's really better than average from the EAFC/FIFA series. NBA Live is a good example of how they depend on the exclusive license.
One key factor that seems to be missing in the video is that EA did not renew the FIFA brand name licensing agreement because FIFA not only wanted a lot more money, they would also not give EA exclusive rights to the name for video games anymore. That was the real reason EA jumped ship. FIFA could have capitalized on EA not using the FIFA name anymore if they had a (very good) competitor game ready to go for fall 2023 when EAFC'24 was released, but FIFA has nothing of the sort, so their advantage is basically gone now.
They wanted more money and now they have nothing. Quite in brand with most companies these days. They could have waited until they had a hand in the deal - These executives are not that smart though.
I remember playing FIFA 06 and although I loved that I could play an international event, it was really tiresome to play the same world cup over and over and over and over. I still remember the substitution camera angle.
in terms of gameplay fifa is an arcade game where the game mechanics enables you to score 10 goals a game so they had to add some "scripted" situations so the scoreline makes more sense. pes engine is the closer to actual football while it takes time to master, the movement, balance, and how to do tricks is more natural, which is unfortunate it doesnt have the better licensing. thats why some modders made it with real faces and badges, etc like smokepatch's football life. it got the best of both worlds
You're right in that it aims to portray football more realistically, but the animation system and lack of fluidity ruin PES for me. I keep giving it a go every year and ending in the same disappointment.
In real life u can't control 11 people, scorelines irl for such sport would also be 10 to 10 that's why the scripts are moronic. Devs should embrace high scores and stop scripting bullshit, which keeps scores low like in "real football"
A competition between two groups and I wanted both to lose. Good video, although it is a bit inaccurate to say there was no competition to EAs offer in the mid 90s, there were a plerothora of football games, Sensible Soccer for example, was one of the most popular games of the time, at least in UK, and there were plenty that came before even then. Also in light of this, EA couldn't have done their research if they thought there wasn't potential in a footballing game.
Curious. Can FIFA make an anti-monopoly rule for "video games image rights"? I really prefer playing PES but one always has to import real names and logos separately each year.
They can't. It's the decision of football clubs and associations, who they want to participate with (exclusively). It's the same with brands, who make exclusively contracts with players. It has nothing to do with monopoly.
It's inaccurate to say that FIFA International Soccer had "no competitors" in 1993: Sensible Soccer was the most popular football series in the world in the early 1990s, especially on Amiga and IBM PC compatibles. Sensi also was released on the Sega Mega Drive (Genesis in the US and Canada), which was the most popular gaming platform for sports games during the 4th generation of game systems. It's also incorrect to say that FIFA International Soccer was the best selling game of the year: The best selling game of 1993 was Street Fighter II (~5m copies) and the best selling game of 1994 was Donkey Kong Country (~6m copies) FIFA International Soccer was only the best selling video game in the UK for a few months (Lemmings, for example, outsold FIFA International Soccer) and elsewhere the sales numbers were tepid as most of Europe were less likely to buy home console games in the early 1990s. It was common that European sales figures to be under 1 million for large releases for years. It wouldn't be until the 5th generation (Sony PlayStation, Nintendo 64, Sega Saturn) when mass adoption of home consoles were common throughout Europe.
Thank you very much for clearing this up, because the script here was too hyperbolic. I also played a number of soccer games (even in the arcade) when EA FIFA wasn't the end all and be all since there were various options waiting for you while succeeding in having a place in the sports game marketshare.
I feel that is not 100% true. Europe was slower to adopt consoles but we still had plenty. My home always seemed to have the latest one, but when I went to town I'd see rows of Master System games. Fifa probably sold a tonne on it. The megadrive game is probably still one of the most enjoyable football games I played.
I used to play sensible soccer for years and Emilyn hughes international soccer and occasionally went to my old mates to play match day. I tried the the 1st few fifa games but wasn’t keen but then fifa 96 started getting me into fifa games
I thought this might happen when it seemed demand for an official World Cup game seem to be dropping. The 2018 tournament was a free update for the main game rather than a standalone title. I think it's a shame but at the same time, FIFA have turned the World Cup into a shadow of its former self. I don't really like EA but I also don't like FIFA. They got their comeuppance here..
how EA is corrupt ? people willingly gave their money lmao not an EA fans, but honestly they are better developer, i mean most of their game is playable at release, compare to other same shitty developer that their tripple a games suck from the start even me still rocking FIFA 16 with its mods people wasting money then calling corruption, hillarious 😅
@@rotua98 every battlefield game I've ever bought was always a hot mess for the first 4 months, they have micro transactions for everything and most their game are live service and finally like video showcased their monopoly over NFL, NHL, and Soccer teams naming rights/likeness.
Corrupt, immoral, it’s all the same ultimate team ruined fifa, created a toxic, money grabbing game. Kids spending money on gambling packs, UA-camrs advertising it, pay to win. They created that and made more expensive fifa point packs where kids could buy them and then get nothing in return. If not corrupt it’s certainly disgusting
The people spending money on packs are also stupid Yh but some of them are kids not even knowing what there doing I remember being 12 or whatever buying coins. But at least I was rewarded and knew what I was buying. Now it’s in game cards, “promos”. Where it’s a roulette of what you get and 99% of the time it’s awful rewards. Yes blame the consumer but the person who created all this is the real problem
Another thing to consider is who can FIFA find that is willing to develop a game engine for them. Practically no major game developer has the tools to make a football game, so they'd have to start from scratch and that requires a lot of money. Usually if a brand wants to have a game developed under their name they'd be the ones putting down investment on the game engine and getting their money back through sales, and it won't be any different for FIFA especially since all they have is the World Cup and they are very specific in what they want the game to be.
PES for pc was never an issue, the patches fixed that quickly. But EA made sure now that I will never enjoy a new football game again. Unless I get a computer and install an old PES game. Long live PES.
I played PES when I was younger, it was buggy but smoother than FIFA. TBH the only reason I stopped playing PES was the authenticity. It was hard to enjoy a football game with made-up team names and made-up players (hence why I usually restart my FIFA manager mode after like ~7 seasons, I can't play with too many fake players lol).
I'm just sad that PES is gone... it was a great era when gamers had a choice between the two, I would used to buy both copies of the games depending on what I wanted to play and what my friends were playing
EA actually needs a competition. The new FIFA game could start with FIFA licensed competitions like world cup, and the regional competitions. Get all the regions into it expecially Africa.
Exactly! I was thinking about the same thing. Is funny how in the video they are praising EA for reaching those exclusive deals, but what about monopoly? For example, Apple created a good product with the phone and apps store, and charging money for their own product they "invented" and created. And now Epic Games or European Union say it's a monopoly and you need to break it and let others use your product that you invented and invested money in it! EA with these "exclusive" deals is 10 times worse than Apple, they just buy or "bribe" everyone and lock everyone out, compared to Apple which they invested their money in development or research and created their own product, that now they are forced to "open it" to others.
I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure it's because fifa is purely for entertainment, so a monopoly is not as hurtful to people. Meanwhile phones are actual utility items that people use in their evreday lives, as a result a monopoly will be much more damaging. If FIFA becomes shit or too expensive because of monopoly, you can play plenty of other games. Meanwhile apple has made sure their product is absolutely necessary in lots of ways, proprietairy charger, linking of cloud services with phone, apple pay, etc. This is the way a monopoly hurts consumers
Problem with Human beings, is always they will blame the rich to be corrupt and all the rich are doing is to safeguard their Income no matter what weather comes. You call it Corrupt cz you have a Different mindset from the rich. The rich never play fair. They play legally
New and latest viewers, heres an update, 2k games, owned by Take 2 Interactive which owns Rockstar Games too as acquired the license of FIFA and are makikg the new FIFA namely known as FIFA 2k25, game will be mostly released at the end of this year.
We all need to boycott EA and never buy a product associated with them anymore. It is oneo f the worst companies in history and deserves no less. Sadly that won't happen because gamers are stupid and many are just children that know nothing else.
This is the worst year for EA. It has retained less than half of its player base from last year. April of 23, FIFA 23 had 80k players on steam, EA FC now has 35k, and less than 40% reviews from last year. The psychological aspect of playing "FIFA" is lost. It seems more like a EA loss even now, just wait until FIFA partners with another game. EA will lose millions more.
It seems you did not understand the Video. While EA sports were foreseeing and safeguarding their future. Other Competitors were fucking around with game engines and putting Fake names and Weird faces. Who is roberto larcos
We all need to boycott EA and never buy a product associated with them anymore. It is oneo f the worst companies in history and deserves no less. Sadly that won't happen because gamers are stupid and many are just children that know nothing else.
So basically, FIFA held EA hostage over its 4 letters and demanded millions. EA called their bluff and used a different set of 4 letters for their game (EA FC) and saved millions of dollars. 😂
Wait. When I first heard about this, people were saying that EA wasn't going to be able to use any of the names or likeness of the players and would just make a game kind of like PES did. I thought it was going to fail miserably and over time another company was going to steal FIFA from them. You mean to tell me this whole time FIFA thought that literally its name and nothing else was worth all this money? That people would play as Messi and Haaland and be able to play through season after season or online but would stop and think "yeah but where is the FIFA logo?" and move on to buy a generic game that has the FIFA logo but none of the teams or players from real life? That level of delusion knows no bounds.
Idk what you are talking about. PES is a horrible game for modern game standards for years now. People tend to always heroize the competitor because they hate EA. Both games are bad.
@@KelpoChips i dont know which game standarts you are talking about. Game is game either good or bad. Fifa is trash in terms of gameplay and always had bugs. Only thing they have its license.
@@KelpoChips PES has had an issue ever since Konami got rid of the FOX engine. But even while they slowly add features to the Unreal engine version of the game what is there to really dislike? They have an edit feature where you can just place a file that adds all the jerseys and logos that are missing. So they've already fixed the missing licenses issue many versions of the game ago.
FiFA in 1993 had dozens of competors... SWOS, Striker, International Superstar Soccer, Pro Evolution Soccer, Actua Soccer, Kick Off, European Club Soccer, Sega Worldwide Soccer, Super Sidekicks,Virtua Striker, ...................... Virtually every dev had a football game
Ive played in near all versions of FIFA since 1994, 1997 was fun with indoor option :D anyways never bought FC24, first i just feel more and more scammed with paying 80usd+ for almost the same game past few years, just minor updates and some story line then i mostly play offline, and its way too online FUT focus, which is not great for me and also after reading bunch of negative reviews on FC24 i decided definitely not to buy it still playing 2023 and ok with it, might even switch to older versions - they even had much better coach career which i usually playing to I wish they had FIFA Manager back ;)
I played it from the start on the sega mega drive fifa international then got fed up with it around 2002 & started playing football manager & when my laptop kept crashing brought a ps3 & went back to fifa & was amazed how much it had moved on I played offline season mode up to about 2012 then just kept buying it for the sake off it & not really playing it just to look at the graphics & realism. I just stick to football manager now it’s a lot less effort 😂 & cheaper
FIFA asking for 1 billion/year in rights was stupid af. Also, EA has more than 20 years of experience perfecting their game, only 2K has the capabilities to rival them on the technical side
PES was easily the best game, the game with more innovation too, FIFA only had the name. FIFA has not been good for over a decade. FIFA was well within their rights to ask for more money considering the game had grown and the value FIFA asked for was still negligible compared to the amount of money EA was making off it, if anyone was greedy in this situation, it was EA. Regardless, I welcome competition to not only EA but also 2K, big monopolies in their respective sports, both have been rotting for a decade, I can't even play their games anymore.
The sad reality is that gamers don't often care about mechanics that much. Pretty much all of the most popular franchises today would've died if gamers actually cared about quality
You have a strange idea of how capitalism works. If you make a hugely successful business, and you're licensing my name - I don't get to just charge you whatever I like and you have to pay it. The price one sets for the name should reflect the value it gives. Otherwise that huge business will go its own way. A name is just a name. The true value is in the game itself.
@@sockinvaders "A name is just a name" is a very naïve view. Many companies are still trusted by people simply for their name. FIFA (the organization) effectively gave EA a stamp of authenticity, which greatly helped EA grow the profile of FIFA (the game franchise). The truth is that those games were never really that good despite what nostalgic people say, and people really only bought them to play as their favorite teams or players. The mistake that FIFA (the organization) made was thinking that EA would never outgrow their need for the FIFA name (after all, if you already have the rights to all the team and player names, people can reasonably pretend that it's still a FIFA game). The franchise was built entirely off of appearances and not mechanics.
"EA wanted to add features" - seriously? all they do now is casino stuff in the game, it lost it's identity way before they parted ways with FIFA. both companies are only in it for the money, NOT to make a better experience for the players. too bad most people fall for that
Back in the days, chrismas was in november when "winning eleven" from japon arrived.....two days of patching the game with original names, kits, fan colors, stadium names, etc.. inserted the burned cd and waited to boot up the game! Jesus that was heaven!
But isn't owing all the licenses in the industry monopolistic behavior? Wouldn't regulators fine a business that prevents other businesses from using all of the suppliers in the industry?
While EA was Foreseeing aqnd safe guarding it's future. E football was Fucking arounf with the game engine. People want to see Haaland or Ronaldinho play not John cena in a Brazilian shirt
@@abdirajab2511 they never had the money to compete anyway, if you actually followed pes, they tried buying the license of big leagues like La Liga but they could only hold that for like 3 years, till EA made it an exclusive deal with a lot of money involved
I think EA outsmarted FIFA because the deals are exclusive and even if a game wanted to make a new FIFA 24 they wouldn't be able to. Its my opinion tho
3:02 A fundamental shift did happen in the mid-2000s, but you forgot to mention that it was also influenced by the overhaul in the FIFA series gameplay. The licenses were never enough, and I think that if those big changes in gameplay did not happen, PES would still have gotten the upper hand to this day.
@@costelserban6447you got a point of course, but to be fair one cannot force everyone to inject dogpoop into their eyeball for them to be allowed to say it’s bad. Hearsay is good enough here, especially since giving EA money should be considered a crime.
2:55 PES was always the better game for me and I spent I lot of time playing it, PES 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013 and 2014. The only downside was that it wasn't licenced. That was the only reason why I switched to FIFA.
FIFA became unplayable due to intense scripting you can't even enjoy a simple career mode in the game anymore. All these brand deals mean nothing when you can't make a genuine football game.
@@zamokwakheshezi6798you are winning 3:0 against a lowest rated league two team and all of sudden your players can get the ball. The ball goes through your players who are all world class and the game is drawn at 3:3. And this all happens in final 20 in-game minutes of the game. If this is not scripted then I don't know what is?
@@anmolkasat6161so the game is just one big statcheck? Can't you outplay someone higher rated when you're lower rank because you were simply playing better that game? If not, what's even the point of the game.
@@barney2159 YES - you CAN beat an obviously better team. NO - you are not reading what he said. The game LITERALLY makes your players behave like they are the worst players ever and for like 10-20 in-game minutes they can't do shit which leads to your opponent scoring with zero effort...
ive always played PES since 2004, and when i tried FIFA even though the gameplay was almost similar but it felt very weird especially the passing, so i went back for pes and never looked back all i have is PES 2016+patch on my old pc, but the fun and enjoyment is real, REAL i tell you
I played both FIFA and PES in the 2000s, it was the opposite, PES was funnier and easier to play, the only reason I started playing FIFA was because they had more licenses, back in those days they still had Brazilian league... now they don't even have the national team with most world cups, but charge as expensive as ever, they only care for online experience where people spend money, no respect for casual player from the old days
Back in the days, chrismas was in november when "winning eleven" from japon arrived.....two days of patching the game with original names, kits, fan colors, stadium names, etc...the inserted the burned cd and waited to boot up the game! Jesus that was heaven!
I do not like EA but they are geniuses to use license, micro transaction, game play, etc... and for PES they are too late to realize how important is it... for FIFA, I'm skeptical they barely launch football game... to develop, launch, and manage video games from beginning is not easy and complicated... and FIFA said in 2022 they develop a football video games, but up until now we didn't hear any news about it
yeah, bec the kit of the game is all on EA, Fifa cannot make video games by itself. And 2k probably make a new one from scratch but the licensing could be an issue bec EA already grind the license of every league for like 20 years already
We all need to boycott EA and never buy a product associated with them anymore. It is oneo f the worst companies in history and deserves no less. Sadly that won't happen because gamers are stupid and many are just children that know nothing else.
It can still backfire, the licenses can just say, Naah not letting you handle my name like this, and just pay themselves out of the license, for marketing reasons. Who wants to have their name linked to this stupid Company anyway? hehehehe we will have to wait and see.
It is a shame PES is now rubbish... Up until not that long ago it was an easy process (especially on PC), Buy PES. Download patch. Install patch. Have all Players, teams, kits, stadiums, leagues and cups and better gameplay.
EA did not kill FIFA, FIFA killed FIFA. They thought they where bigger than the game, they thought wrong. Back in '98 I played my first FIFA game, and even back then, I did not watch football and thought FIFA was an EA brandname. I had never heard of FIFA outside of the game before, until my dad told me that it was the other way around. My opinion has always been that the game was bigger.
As much as I hate EA, I am glad they handed a huge L to FIFA in this scenario.
Hopefully this means FIFA works with another game developer and tries to make a good football game now
Agreed.
@@ANGELOFDARKification The question is how much are game developers willing to pay for the FIFA branding.
@@ANGELOFDARKification The only one who can compete with EA FC is PES. It will take another developer literally decades of development to compete with the infrastructure that EA has built. Love EA or hate them, you have to agree what they built with their sports franchises took decades of work. (This is coming from a guy who absolutely hates the gambling culture in gaming that EA started)
@@-VForValhalla- PES died a long time ago though, eFootball is a joke. I think FIFA will partner with 2k or someone to make a football game. There's a couple free ones coming too. It will take time and EA will never completely die but the competition will at least wake everyone up to make a good game instead of a casino.
EA lost
1.FIFA Title
2.FIFA World Cup
3.FIFA Club World Cup
Solutions:
1.The realism and and other Branding deals are what kept people playing, the title only helped solidify them at the start to beat out there competitors, now that there heavily solidify the Title “FIFA” doesn’t really matter anymore.
2.EA only lost the specifics of FIFAs 2 trophies( Title,naming of details etc. ) so if they wanted to host a World Cup / Club World Cup in game they could just change the name of specifics at the cost of a little bit of authenticity they didn’t really need
EA Gained
Lots of money due to the fact they didn’t have to keep on paying for the licences every year.
Today.....I feel like money - Gianni Infantino everyday probably.
this will become a meme!
😂😂
Still surprised Qatar didn't hit him with the ricin like they did that journalist after he said he was feeling gay
But EA was the ones who taught him how to perfect it
😂
You forgot to say that a big thing that Pro Evolution Soccer had and that gave them a boost in the battle was the Champions League. And after they lost that was the end.
They had "Master League" and "Become a Legend" modes which were crazy popular (ML ever since PS One days) but their licencing problems, awful forced animations and ribotic movements around 2010 pushed a lot of people away. At that time, FIFA improved... A LOT. But it all ended when they switched to this dogwater engine they using rn and now both games are ass...
The end for PES was FIFA's new engine in 2011 or 1012, nothing else. Cut the bs.
PES was still lagging behind FIFA when they had the champions league license. They needed to invest much more in licensing and exclusivity to stay alive.
@@fu6817 That's a fact, I remember that change, suddenly Fifa became just as good as a simulator than PES but with all the licenses. At the same time PES got sucked so bad that for the next year EA mastered the engine and it was game over.
Roberto Larcos should have won ballon D’or he was coooold
He truly reached his prime with Boca Seniors!
*Ballon D'eurgh
BOCA SENIORSSSS LMFAO
Strong contender in a national team with the likes of Ronaird, Facu or even Naldarinho
A think he wld off like cannavaro jst brasil had Ron Riv N Dinhio. But best ever jst ahead of lahm. Shld be 2 balon doir attacker/ defender gk dmf n obv defenders then attackers midfielders.
One of the example of how monopoly backfires. FIFA thought they could get a blank check from EA, but the latter said "nope."
it's not monopoly when the clubs own the players image and likeness rights and that's what matters most than Fifa's own brand
@@md.mohaiminulislam9618 He meant FIFA was only monopolizing the very name "FIFA"
@@JusticeExplorer that's not what monopoly means.
@@KingKong11730 FIFA has a monopoly on the word FIFA. They control the word FIFA. They are the sole owners. FIFA was able to monopolize the name which means that the supply is extremely low and for that reason they can boost prices due to EA's high demand for the name. Idk how tf that's not a monopoly. Please explain what it is if it's not a monopoly.
@@JusticeExplorerdude, that’s not what monopoly means!!! You are talking about a copy right of the NAME FIFA, that’s not a monopoly. Seriously if that was a monopoly, every fricking company on earth is a monopoly because EVERY business owns their name and no one can use it. Apple, Amazon, Google, Target, the chicken shop around the corner. THATS NOT A MONOPOLY and not how monopolies work so calm down and look up what defines a monopoly. Look up the case google just lost and why they lost it, an antitrust lawsuit, or Apples App Store case in europe, that will tell you what a monopoly is and how it works. Has nothing to do with the Name FIFA.
Haaland didn't care about any of the game stuff. EA just offered him tons of money to be their game's ambassador
Indeed, Haaland may not care at all, but he plays FIFA/EA FC lol.
He's too old for video games anyway.
@ChoobCubed he's only 23 bro
@@ChoobChoob what
@@ChoobChoobI’m twice his age and still love playing video games😆
7:39 Zlatan getting trolled by ea 😂😂😂😂
PES on PC with a patch was the ultimate experience
It is still. Pes 2021+ mods+ Manual passing - Best soccer game of all time.
@@sambitkoley2733 no truer words have been spoken.
FIFA is a child's game pes is a simulator .
@@harrygregg9551 a man's game
Every college students clutch game on the laptop from 2008-2012
Actually, the first "race" was between Konami's International Superstar Soccer and FIFA and International Superstar Soccer blew FIFA out in every single aspect except of licensing. FIFA didn't really make it super mainstream until the release of FIFA 98 Road to the World Cup which took the world by storm.
Man that game was 🔥 back on the day. I sunk sooo many houts into that and the 🐐ed soundtrack of Fifa 99 imo. But this is pure nostalgia talking on my part 😂
I can still remember queuing up in Beatties (a UK department store) behind other kids waiting to play the store copy. It might look silly now, but to a child who didn't have his own video games console, playing it was just about the most fun ever!
1:06 "It would be like renaming Twitter to a random letter in the alphabet" 😂
What a great idea! - Elon eventually
u didnt answer Why Haaland Doesn't Play Fifa
it's a play on words... it means he's featured on a game called FC24 and not the usual FIFA. It's a bit of a clickbait.
Because he plays EA FC 24
@@robthewalrusa bit?
Haaland doesn't play video games.... video games play him
Cause he plays EAFC
In short: FIFA only sold the use of their 4 letters on the box, the use of players' likeness are seperate deals brokered with the leagues.
The Italian league was part of those leagues for a few years. Can't get how on earth they could end that deal. You must be mad
Pro Evolution Soccer was always the better game in its prime, FIFA/EAFC is just Ultimate Team since that is all EA ever try to improve.
exclusive licensing should never had happened. its so obvious that the overwhelming majority of consumers would go to where they can play the same club they support. Konami never had the money to compete with EA for licenses. now EA has a monopoly on a lot of sports games just because they have the money for exclusive licenses, and because of that they have no competition and with no competition means they barely improve the game each year.
Look at MLB, EA doesn't have the license for that sport so they themselves don't bother making a competitor because they know they can't compete without the license.
since 2010 fifa is a better game
FIFA actually tried hard when they were the underdog, that's what led to the improvements in 10,11,12,13 etc. Once PES fell off, they had no competition and just monopolised football games and turned it into a casino
Pes still is better and you can still play with basically every player
Exactly, the video starts with a blatant lie. No one played FIFA back then.
This was secretly a contracts and licensing video
Well played - always banging content 🔥
EA FC is too much show business and very less gameplay. Whats the point of being able to change kits in a football game but not being able to pass the ball properly...
unfortunately as is with most things in LIFE
I think not being able to pass the ball properly is part of life. I’m glad that’s in the game. It’s realistic
100% disagree with whatever you're saying
@@silverstreet7984 Sadly man I don't have a console and ea fc sucks on mobile. 🙄
Right?
The best FIFA version was the "Around the world" 1998 edition... qualifying rounds against Maldives, or choosing local teams in the malaysian league :)
ok grandpa
@@potatosalad9085 He lived through the coolest time to be a kid. You can't even talk to a human being in person.
@@DudeWatIsThis not the millenial talking shit, whiner's generation
@@potatosalad9085 Can you blame us? We know what good times look like, and want them back. Have fun not owning anything.
@@DudeWatIsThis yeah I can, you guys had it and lost it, we were born without it, thanks to yall
Part of the reason the FIFA was asking for so much money was because EA is making an insane amount of money JUST from Ultimate Team. They were pulling in $650M from it over 5 years ago and it's just constantly gone up and up. For FY2021, EA made $1.62BILLION just from FIFA Ultimate Team microtransactions. And every year they push toward more and more of this cash cow, especially behind sponsored streamers (who are basically just paid hype men), and a business model and system design that steers people more toward needing to spend money to get more players that they can flip into better player squad challenges. And all this while some of their seriously great design options just get left to be "updated" like once every 5 years, which often means removing elements that fans liked, then putting them back in years later and calling them "new". The absolute bastardization that the career modes underwent in the last 10-15 years is saddening, but gotta make sure to have the big money FC Points packs available just months into the game! (And let's not forget that they intentionally make sure that the Points costs for packs and the amounts you can get from buying Points NEVER MATCH UP, just to elicit feelings that the added Points are just being wasted and therefore pushing people to spend on ANOTHER top-up of that virtual wallet, since "Well, it's not as much since I've already got some points in there..."
FIFA is a hideous corrupt organization. EA are a hive of greedy manipulative bastards. Unfortunately, they both end up putting out good products, which sucks. But EA just keeps looking worse and worse to me every year.
Bitch please! Ea hasn’t done anything for the game since 2016. That tells you everything about the company, it’s a scam.
Fifa should just make their own game then
@@fnmikeygg2K, witch is probably the other biggest game dev company outside ea got the rights for fifa
EA has always been scummy like this
How people can sit and work for months and months, on their art or with technical abilities.. for us, the gamers.
To then just hand it over to EA.
What happened?
Is the developing world just a soul eating dystopia, or soon-to-be monopoly?
Kinda like concert tickets slowly have become.
When EA sits on the majority, they will control the prize
I wouldn't say EA make a good product. It's a licensed product and that's what's important. From a technical perspective there's nothing that's really better than average from the EAFC/FIFA series.
NBA Live is a good example of how they depend on the exclusive license.
Fascinating story and a great lesson in smart business. Thanks for taking the time to tell it :)
Our pleasure 😀
One key factor that seems to be missing in the video is that EA did not renew the FIFA brand name licensing agreement because FIFA not only wanted a lot more money, they would also not give EA exclusive rights to the name for video games anymore. That was the real reason EA jumped ship.
FIFA could have capitalized on EA not using the FIFA name anymore if they had a (very good) competitor game ready to go for fall 2023 when EAFC'24 was released, but FIFA has nothing of the sort, so their advantage is basically gone now.
They wanted more money and now they have nothing.
Quite in brand with most companies these days.
They could have waited until they had a hand in the deal - These executives are not that smart though.
But sold it to 2k which was always gonna happen
I remember playing FIFA 06 and although I loved that I could play an international event, it was really tiresome to play the same world cup over and over and over and over.
I still remember the substitution camera angle.
PES 6 was suberb, i played online against my friend a lot and it was great, real physics, no bs.
in terms of gameplay fifa is an arcade game where the game mechanics enables you to score 10 goals a game so they had to add some "scripted" situations so the scoreline makes more sense. pes engine is the closer to actual football while it takes time to master, the movement, balance, and how to do tricks is more natural, which is unfortunate it doesnt have the better licensing. thats why some modders made it with real faces and badges, etc like smokepatch's football life. it got the best of both worlds
You're right in that it aims to portray football more realistically, but the animation system and lack of fluidity ruin PES for me. I keep giving it a go every year and ending in the same disappointment.
Pea 2021 is the best football game ever made
@@unknownuser5645which basically is smokepatchs football life
@@unknownuser5645yes. I enjoyed that game so much
In real life u can't control 11 people, scorelines irl for such sport would also be 10 to 10 that's why the scripts are moronic. Devs should embrace high scores and stop scripting bullshit, which keeps scores low like in "real football"
A competition between two groups and I wanted both to lose. Good video, although it is a bit inaccurate to say there was no competition to EAs offer in the mid 90s, there were a plerothora of football games, Sensible Soccer for example, was one of the most popular games of the time, at least in UK, and there were plenty that came before even then. Also in light of this, EA couldn't have done their research if they thought there wasn't potential in a footballing game.
I use to love football with water puddles and lightning strikes, and players double stacked and looked like Flintstones. Not realistic but fun.
Curious. Can FIFA make an anti-monopoly rule for "video games image rights"?
I really prefer playing PES but one always has to import real names and logos separately each year.
the new pes or efootbal is trash ive tried it was horrible
@@rickcatley21that's why u just update the 2021 version and have the perfect game, especially on PC
@@mucktown yeah the 2021 is perfect such a shame what they did to the series
Fifa dont make rules. Rules are made by the countries.
Thats why barely have any Brazilians teams on EAFC, Brazilian laws are hard to negotiate.
They can't. It's the decision of football clubs and associations, who they want to participate with (exclusively).
It's the same with brands, who make exclusively contracts with players. It has nothing to do with monopoly.
2:20 Uhhhhhh...Kickoff 2 and Sensible Soccer were big games in the early 90s.
It's inaccurate to say that FIFA International Soccer had "no competitors" in 1993:
Sensible Soccer was the most popular football series in the world in the early 1990s, especially on Amiga and IBM PC compatibles. Sensi also was released on the Sega Mega Drive (Genesis in the US and Canada), which was the most popular gaming platform for sports games during the 4th generation of game systems.
It's also incorrect to say that FIFA International Soccer was the best selling game of the year:
The best selling game of 1993 was Street Fighter II (~5m copies) and the best selling game of 1994 was Donkey Kong Country (~6m copies)
FIFA International Soccer was only the best selling video game in the UK for a few months (Lemmings, for example, outsold FIFA International Soccer) and elsewhere the sales numbers were tepid as most of Europe were less likely to buy home console games in the early 1990s. It was common that European sales figures to be under 1 million for large releases for years. It wouldn't be until the 5th generation (Sony PlayStation, Nintendo 64, Sega Saturn) when mass adoption of home consoles were common throughout Europe.
Thank you very much for clearing this up, because the script here was too hyperbolic.
I also played a number of soccer games (even in the arcade) when EA FIFA wasn't the end all and be all since there were various options waiting for you while succeeding in having a place in the sports game marketshare.
I feel that is not 100% true. Europe was slower to adopt consoles but we still had plenty.
My home always seemed to have the latest one, but when I went to town I'd see rows of Master System games. Fifa probably sold a tonne on it. The megadrive game is probably still one of the most enjoyable football games I played.
This channel always makes outlandish and inaccurate claims. Half the content always seems like paid propaganda anyways.
I used to play sensible soccer for years and Emilyn hughes international soccer and occasionally went to my old mates to play match day. I tried the the 1st few fifa games but wasn’t keen but then fifa 96 started getting me into fifa games
I remember TIF, this is football, there were competitions but the fall off of Pes made ea grow exponentially @@kaybeeva
The flow, the humour, the narration and the video sequence is phenomenal ❤️🔥
I thought this might happen when it seemed demand for an official World Cup game seem to be dropping. The 2018 tournament was a free update for the main game rather than a standalone title.
I think it's a shame but at the same time, FIFA have turned the World Cup into a shadow of its former self.
I don't really like EA but I also don't like FIFA. They got their comeuppance here..
Some Avicii vibe started and you killed the song😭😭
Yeah that was weird...
One corrpurt organization bending over another corrupt organization; the world truly is a beautiful place ❤️
how EA is corrupt ? people willingly gave their money lmao
not an EA fans, but honestly they are better developer, i mean most of their game is playable at release, compare to other same shitty developer that their tripple a games suck from the start
even me still rocking FIFA 16 with its mods
people wasting money then calling corruption, hillarious 😅
@@rotua98 every battlefield game I've ever bought was always a hot mess for the first 4 months, they have micro transactions for everything and most their game are live service and finally like video showcased their monopoly over NFL, NHL, and Soccer teams naming rights/likeness.
Corrupt, immoral, it’s all the same ultimate team ruined fifa, created a toxic, money grabbing game. Kids spending money on gambling packs, UA-camrs advertising it, pay to win. They created that and made more expensive fifa point packs where kids could buy them and then get nothing in return. If not corrupt it’s certainly disgusting
The people spending money on packs are also stupid Yh but some of them are kids not even knowing what there doing I remember being 12 or whatever buying coins. But at least I was rewarded and knew what I was buying. Now it’s in game cards, “promos”. Where it’s a roulette of what you get and 99% of the time it’s awful rewards. Yes blame the consumer but the person who created all this is the real problem
Don’t forget the scripting to let the 3 year old wins against a 33 year old to get them hooked for life.
I love that im able to recognize the snippets of songs that was included
Another thing to consider is who can FIFA find that is willing to develop a game engine for them. Practically no major game developer has the tools to make a football game, so they'd have to start from scratch and that requires a lot of money. Usually if a brand wants to have a game developed under their name they'd be the ones putting down investment on the game engine and getting their money back through sales, and it won't be any different for FIFA especially since all they have is the World Cup and they are very specific in what they want the game to be.
2K
PES for pc was never an issue, the patches fixed that quickly. But EA made sure now that I will never enjoy a new football game again. Unless I get a computer and install an old PES game. Long live PES.
What pisses me off is that EA dont give a F about pc players anymore .
the controller never works properly on pc ...
Might as well change the title to "Why EA dumped FIFA?" 😂
10:13 That's just ridiculous yet hilarious 🤣
Nice, informative kept the progressing nicely.....thank yih sir 👍
I played PES when I was younger, it was buggy but smoother than FIFA. TBH the only reason I stopped playing PES was the authenticity. It was hard to enjoy a football game with made-up team names and made-up players (hence why I usually restart my FIFA manager mode after like ~7 seasons, I can't play with too many fake players lol).
If you have PES on the computer you can just download mods with all the real names, faces etc. and it doesn't cost a penny
your presentation skills are impeccable, always a pleasure to watch!
Once again great video I'm not even into football but I enjoy when you put out content.
But again your title needs work.
The aim is always to make it entertaining for everyone! 🙂
I have missed a lot 😭 by thanks for the videos thy keep busy and I do enjoy bless keep them coming
Top Content! Keep that intensivity and quality you are doing great job ❤
We'll keep it up! 😉
love the Editing, keep it up
Will do! Thanks 🙂
Haaland is not even mentioned in this video
LOL! Right?
Is haaland part of fifa? 😂 He is a player on fifa not owner or anytjing like that 😂 No need to mention
Why is there a need to mention him?
*And now FIFAe announced the contract agreement with eFootball (PES)* ☠️
OGs know that before PES it was Winning Eleven
Gol gol gol gol goal 😂😂😂 the Japanese commentators voice is a huge part of my childhood
Man what a game❤
Winning eleven is pes former name. Same game
Really well produced video! Props to you!
You obviously have no idea about football games history.
Hello Again Athletic Interest ❤
Hello! 👋😉
FIFA can still have an International game, like world cup or beach cup or FIFA Street and stuff like that.
I'm just sad that PES is gone... it was a great era when gamers had a choice between the two, I would used to buy both copies of the games depending on what I wanted to play and what my friends were playing
idk why they stopped making become a legend and the other offline modes. they ruined the game
Pes is gone?? Dude they changed the name to eFootball 2024..mobile version is smooth af.. Not played console tho
@@shukkur619 mobile version is not where they make profit. It's always PC/console. The video game world kind of forgot eFootball exists
EA actually needs a competition. The new FIFA game could start with FIFA licensed competitions like world cup, and the regional competitions. Get all the regions into it expecially Africa.
EA needs to be ready to face monopoly lawsuits..💁♂️
EA has done the same thing with American football. EA has an exclusive rights deal so they are the only football game being made
Exactly! I was thinking about the same thing. Is funny how in the video they are praising EA for reaching those exclusive deals, but what about monopoly?
For example, Apple created a good product with the phone and apps store, and charging money for their own product they "invented" and created. And now Epic Games or European Union say it's a monopoly and you need to break it and let others use your product that you invented and invested money in it!
EA with these "exclusive" deals is 10 times worse than Apple, they just buy or "bribe" everyone and lock everyone out, compared to Apple which they invested their money in development or research and created their own product, that now they are forced to "open it" to others.
I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure it's because fifa is purely for entertainment, so a monopoly is not as hurtful to people. Meanwhile phones are actual utility items that people use in their evreday lives, as a result a monopoly will be much more damaging.
If FIFA becomes shit or too expensive because of monopoly, you can play plenty of other games. Meanwhile apple has made sure their product is absolutely necessary in lots of ways, proprietairy charger, linking of cloud services with phone, apple pay, etc. This is the way a monopoly hurts consumers
Problem with Human beings, is always they will blame the rich to be corrupt and all the rich are doing is to safeguard their Income no matter what weather comes. You call it Corrupt cz you have a Different mindset from the rich. The rich never play fair. They play legally
The outcome of the match is already decided lol
You are going to **lose** and I will force you to buy packs as justification for your lost!
🤑
New and latest viewers, heres an update, 2k games, owned by Take 2 Interactive which owns Rockstar Games too as acquired the license of FIFA and are makikg the new FIFA namely known as FIFA 2k25, game will be mostly released at the end of this year.
The 24 version is the one that I quiting on.
It's the last soccer video I'll by from ea for a long long time
until next september
quit since 23 ))
@@rickcatley21 haven't played in 2 weeks buddy
@@iXpertMan I did too but my friend got into it so I had to get 24 and got hooked again
We all need to boycott EA and never buy a product associated with them anymore. It is oneo f the worst companies in history and deserves no less. Sadly that won't happen because gamers are stupid and many are just children that know nothing else.
This is the worst year for EA. It has retained less than half of its player base from last year. April of 23, FIFA 23 had 80k players on steam, EA FC now has 35k, and less than 40% reviews from last year. The psychological aspect of playing "FIFA" is lost. It seems more like a EA loss even now, just wait until FIFA partners with another game. EA will lose millions more.
Lmao this guy thinks EA cares about PC gaming.
Fifa players on Steam are in the 100k. Fifa players on console are in the 10M...
It seems you did not understand the Video. While EA sports were foreseeing and safeguarding their future. Other Competitors were fucking around with game engines and putting Fake names and Weird faces. Who is roberto larcos
We all need to boycott EA and never buy a product associated with them anymore. It is oneo f the worst companies in history and deserves no less. Sadly that won't happen because gamers are stupid and many are just children that know nothing else.
So basically, FIFA held EA hostage over its 4 letters and demanded millions. EA called their bluff and used a different set of 4 letters for their game (EA FC) and saved millions of dollars. 😂
2:21 2:32 They were plenty of football games before FIFA (Sensible Soccer to name one series). Hell quite a number of them were made in the UK.
Amazing videos as always !!!
Thanks very much 😀
Wait. When I first heard about this, people were saying that EA wasn't going to be able to use any of the names or likeness of the players and would just make a game kind of like PES did. I thought it was going to fail miserably and over time another company was going to steal FIFA from them.
You mean to tell me this whole time FIFA thought that literally its name and nothing else was worth all this money? That people would play as Messi and Haaland and be able to play through season after season or online but would stop and think "yeah but where is the FIFA logo?" and move on to buy a generic game that has the FIFA logo but none of the teams or players from real life?
That level of delusion knows no bounds.
fifa2k let's goo 💥💥
Yeap can’t wait
The reason FIFA ended up beating Pro Evo was because FIFA 10 was such an amazing return to form and whilst FIFA got better Pro Evo got worse.
How FIFA 10 was turning point ??
@@karthik007 Because it was a big step up from Fifa 09.
PES has always been better than FIFA. It just lacked the licensing which killed it.
Definitely
Idk what you are talking about. PES is a horrible game for modern game standards for years now. People tend to always heroize the competitor because they hate EA. Both games are bad.
@@KelpoChips i dont know which game standarts you are talking about. Game is game either good or bad. Fifa is trash in terms of gameplay and always had bugs. Only thing they have its license.
@@sabitbagirli7399 true but PES is even worse and without licences
@@KelpoChips PES has had an issue ever since Konami got rid of the FOX engine. But even while they slowly add features to the Unreal engine version of the game what is there to really dislike? They have an edit feature where you can just place a file that adds all the jerseys and logos that are missing. So they've already fixed the missing licenses issue many versions of the game ago.
FiFA in 1993 had dozens of competors...
SWOS, Striker, International Superstar Soccer, Pro Evolution Soccer, Actua Soccer, Kick Off, European Club Soccer, Sega Worldwide Soccer, Super Sidekicks,Virtua Striker, ......................
Virtually every dev had a football game
bit of a clickbait title, eh?
Very clickbait title
yeah, and even harmful
I think he meant FIFA the game brand. So yeah EA did kill FIFA the game brand
Very good video. I would like to suggest something a little bit out of football, and that is how Need for Speed takes the explosiveness of Porsche.
Ive played in near all versions of FIFA since 1994, 1997 was fun with indoor option :D
anyways never bought FC24, first i just feel more and more scammed with paying 80usd+ for almost the same game past few years, just minor updates and some story line
then i mostly play offline, and its way too online FUT focus, which is not great for me
and also after reading bunch of negative reviews on FC24 i decided definitely not to buy it
still playing 2023 and ok with it, might even switch to older versions - they even had much better coach career which i usually playing to
I wish they had FIFA Manager back ;)
I played it from the start on the sega mega drive fifa international then got fed up with it around 2002 & started playing football manager & when my laptop kept crashing brought a ps3 & went back to fifa & was amazed how much it had moved on I played offline season mode up to about 2012 then just kept buying it for the sake off it & not really playing it just to look at the graphics & realism. I just stick to football manager now it’s a lot less effort 😂 & cheaper
I always love your video mate! Cool stuff!
FIFA asking for 1 billion/year in rights was stupid af. Also, EA has more than 20 years of experience perfecting their game, only 2K has the capabilities to rival them on the technical side
Konami arguably had the better game. Fifa should have teamed up with them
Perfecting. 😂😂😂
@@BlackNuke145 PES was not the better
@ebenezersiaw935 Pro Evolution 1-4 was better gameplay hands down. If you think otherwise you know nothing about gaming. Fifa just had the licence
@@BlackNuke145 Fifa outshine PES in terms of fan base and gameplay quality for years than PES. It's you know nothing about gaming
The name FIFA was something different, i hate calling it EAFC still
PES was easily the best game, the game with more innovation too, FIFA only had the name.
FIFA has not been good for over a decade.
FIFA was well within their rights to ask for more money considering the game had grown and the value FIFA asked for was still negligible compared to the amount of money EA was making off it, if anyone was greedy in this situation, it was EA.
Regardless, I welcome competition to not only EA but also 2K, big monopolies in their respective sports, both have been rotting for a decade, I can't even play their games anymore.
The sad reality is that gamers don't often care about mechanics that much. Pretty much all of the most popular franchises today would've died if gamers actually cared about quality
FIFA from 2011 till 2016 was decent
unfortunately FIFA was a better marketer and businessman :L
You have a strange idea of how capitalism works. If you make a hugely successful business, and you're licensing my name - I don't get to just charge you whatever I like and you have to pay it. The price one sets for the name should reflect the value it gives. Otherwise that huge business will go its own way. A name is just a name. The true value is in the game itself.
@@sockinvaders "A name is just a name" is a very naïve view. Many companies are still trusted by people simply for their name. FIFA (the organization) effectively gave EA a stamp of authenticity, which greatly helped EA grow the profile of FIFA (the game franchise). The truth is that those games were never really that good despite what nostalgic people say, and people really only bought them to play as their favorite teams or players. The mistake that FIFA (the organization) made was thinking that EA would never outgrow their need for the FIFA name (after all, if you already have the rights to all the team and player names, people can reasonably pretend that it's still a FIFA game). The franchise was built entirely off of appearances and not mechanics.
"EA wanted to add features" - seriously? all they do now is casino stuff in the game, it lost it's identity way before they parted ways with FIFA. both companies are only in it for the money, NOT to make a better experience for the players. too bad most people fall for that
if 2k makes a fifa game i'll play that over whatever garbage EA puts out
2k isn’t any better tho. This years nba 2k24 is the most pay to win 2k of all time. It’s stacked with micro transactions
Enjoy Man Red VS Los Blancos FC
@@yuvindudesilva5503thats good as long as the noobs dont get tactics
@@CactusBravo42mods exist mate
@@blaalalalalalalalalalalala4751 Soo you’re going to spend money on a subpar unlicensed product just to mod it? Really?😂
Back in the days, chrismas was in november when "winning eleven" from japon arrived.....two days of patching the game with original names, kits, fan colors, stadium names, etc.. inserted the burned cd and waited to boot up the game! Jesus that was heaven!
But isn't owing all the licenses in the industry monopolistic behavior? Wouldn't regulators fine a business that prevents other businesses from using all of the suppliers in the industry?
EA Sports have a monopoly it seems which shouldn't be allowed. This video sounds all too happy about the monopoly EA Sports is imposing over others.
Hence all the crashes during game play
You can say all you want to say. I just can't lower my level just to be on your level. Up your game.
While EA was Foreseeing aqnd safe guarding it's future. E football was Fucking arounf with the game engine. People want to see Haaland or Ronaldinho play not John cena in a Brazilian shirt
@@abdirajab2511 they never had the money to compete anyway, if you actually followed pes, they tried buying the license of big leagues like La Liga but they could only hold that for like 3 years, till EA made it an exclusive deal with a lot of money involved
I think EA outsmarted FIFA because the deals are exclusive and even if a game wanted to make a new FIFA 24 they wouldn't be able to.
Its my opinion tho
0:07 madden isn't a rival since EA makes the game NBA 2k or PES are EA closest rivals
3:02
A fundamental shift did happen in the mid-2000s, but you forgot to mention that it was also influenced by the overhaul in the FIFA series gameplay. The licenses were never enough, and I think that if those big changes in gameplay did not happen, PES would still have gotten the upper hand to this day.
When FIFA decides to launch this game you best believe they’ll sign up all the leagues.
Now here's a guy who does not understand how licensing works!
I just want to say that you speak very well. That is a huge rarity with these videos on YT where these nerds can't speak for shit. Thanks!
EA FIFA has been a shit game for years, havnt played this game for at least 5-6 years
How can you say it's bad if you didn't play the game? 😂😂
@@costelserban6447because there are thousand of videos in yt saying of shit fifa turned out
@@thesh4dow556 Ive been playing fifa regularly with friends for years and its fucking so much fun. Its come a long way. FIFA is great!
@@costelserban6447you got a point of course, but to be fair one cannot force everyone to inject dogpoop into their eyeball for them to be allowed to say it’s bad. Hearsay is good enough here, especially since giving EA money should be considered a crime.
"No competitors" he says, ignoring Sensible Soccer, Kick Off, Emlyn Hughes...
How has EA's graphics not improved in like 15 years?
Same with madden.
2:55 PES was always the better game for me and I spent I lot of time playing it, PES 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013 and 2014. The only downside was that it wasn't licenced. That was the only reason why I switched to FIFA.
FIFA became unplayable due to intense scripting you can't even enjoy a simple career mode in the game anymore. All these brand deals mean nothing when you can't make a genuine football game.
Scripting? You think in real football you will win all your matches? Lol
@@zamokwakheshezi6798you are winning 3:0 against a lowest rated league two team and all of sudden your players can get the ball. The ball goes through your players who are all world class and the game is drawn at 3:3. And this all happens in final 20 in-game minutes of the game. If this is not scripted then I don't know what is?
@@anmolkasat6161so the game is just one big statcheck? Can't you outplay someone higher rated when you're lower rank because you were simply playing better that game? If not, what's even the point of the game.
@@barney2159
YES - you CAN beat an obviously better team.
NO - you are not reading what he said. The game LITERALLY makes your players behave like they are the worst players ever and for like 10-20 in-game minutes they can't do shit which leads to your opponent scoring with zero effort...
Yeah FIFA fumbled.
ive always played PES since 2004, and when i tried FIFA even though the gameplay was almost similar but it felt very weird especially the passing, so i went back for pes and never looked back
all i have is PES 2016+patch on my old pc, but the fun and enjoyment is real, REAL i tell you
I played both FIFA and PES in the 2000s, it was the opposite, PES was funnier and easier to play, the only reason I started playing FIFA was because they had more licenses, back in those days they still had Brazilian league... now they don't even have the national team with most world cups, but charge as expensive as ever, they only care for online experience where people spend money, no respect for casual player from the old days
Back in the days, chrismas was in november when "winning eleven" from japon arrived.....two days of patching the game with original names, kits, fan colors, stadium names, etc...the inserted the burned cd and waited to boot up the game! Jesus that was heaven!
I do not like EA but they are geniuses to use license, micro transaction, game play, etc... and for PES they are too late to realize how important is it... for FIFA, I'm skeptical they barely launch football game... to develop, launch, and manage video games from beginning is not easy and complicated... and FIFA said in 2022 they develop a football video games, but up until now we didn't hear any news about it
yeah, bec the kit of the game is all on EA, Fifa cannot make video games by itself. And 2k probably make a new one from scratch but the licensing could be an issue bec EA already grind the license of every league for like 20 years already
We all need to boycott EA and never buy a product associated with them anymore. It is oneo f the worst companies in history and deserves no less. Sadly that won't happen because gamers are stupid and many are just children that know nothing else.
It can still backfire, the licenses can just say, Naah not letting you handle my name like this, and just pay themselves out of the license, for marketing reasons. Who wants to have their name linked to this stupid Company anyway? hehehehe we will have to wait and see.
Very nice video analysis of FIFA and EA
It is a shame PES is now rubbish... Up until not that long ago it was an easy process (especially on PC), Buy PES. Download patch. Install patch. Have all Players, teams, kits, stadiums, leagues and cups and better gameplay.
I loved PES, was surprised it got knocked down that quickly.
EA talking about realism while pushing the same game for 10 years.
Also man and woman playing together 🤣
The biggest possibility is that FIFA will collaborate with 2k to release its soccer game.
Its confirmed
EAFC is dead bro, no one plays that dogwater game anymore
Whohooo Ajax (museumplein) mentioned!
EA are absolute saints compared to FIFA. Good for them.
I think after 10-12 years it will be a fun fact that 2 or 3 FIFAs weren't actually named FIFA
One detail you could've added, is that the Brazillian League (that I know) is exclusive to PES, while on Fifa 23/EA24 is made up players
Totally missed out International Superstar Soccer.
Wasn't ISS basically PES? I played them on PS One (Winning Eleven too lol) but idk I always thought that it went from ISS and ISS 2 to PES fr
EA did not kill FIFA, FIFA killed FIFA.
They thought they where bigger than the game, they thought wrong.
Back in '98 I played my first FIFA game, and even back then, I did not watch football and thought FIFA was an EA brandname.
I had never heard of FIFA outside of the game before, until my dad told me that it was the other way around.
My opinion has always been that the game was bigger.