When I heard that Donald Sutherland passed, this scene immediately popped in my head. Should have been nominated for an Oscar and Won for his role in Ordinary People.
With Donald passing away today, I had to come back to this scene. I learned how important it is to be there for your kids as a Dad. I am raising my grandson and he made a simple request yesterday. My inclination was to say no because of inconvenience.i relented and said yes. It turned into a special moment and I need to pay more attention. I won’t have them forever. Thanks for reminder, Donald. I am not disappointed either.
I faced the issue of the children blaming themselves for the parents faults, and it’s still bring me to tears on how Donald Sutherland shows his frailty as a human
@@patricklee8314 His performance was profound and so naturalistic. Timothy Hutton’s, too. They didn’t seem to be acting. These performances have lived in my heart ever since I first saw them in 1980.
I was 10 when this movie came out in 1980. First of identical twin boy's, us being youngest among 4 boy's. I will never forget how after we saw this movie as a family, we all, including mom just started staring at dad! It had just dawned on us all that we had this exact same dad! same feeling of comfort, sturdiness, security and that god given ability to have a handle on everything! We miss you dearly and love you so much my dad Richard Leroy Antonio. Untill paradise pop's.
Without question one of the best films ever made. If not the best. The performances from MTM Hutton, Sutherland, Hirsch. Impeccable. Robert Redford doesnt rush anything. His masterpiece.
They literally can't make movies like this anymore. I lived it more or less. I called someone nervously, a gf and heard the 'Karen's dead. She killed herself' almost to the line.
I've long defended this film's winning Best Picture over "Raging Bull," and while De Niro may have deserved the Best Actor Oscar, it was absolutely criminal for Sutherland not have been at least nominated. RIP.
2:30 It just hit me. This is when Conrad sees himself in his father. After his breakthroughs in therapy, he senses that his father is like him; vulnerable, self doubting, taking himself to task for not realizing when he could have helped someone. I always loved this final scene between them, but it really hits me now just how closely they’re finally brought together as father and son.
This scene is everything, thank you Donald Sutherland -- such a fine performance in this film. The nuance, the detail, the spirit -- he had it all. Rest in beautiful peace.
Beth would have destroyed her still living child. Some mothers really do have so much love for their firstborns, they have nothing left for their other children, sometimes even their husbands. A beautiful and heartbreaking movie.
Beth loved Conrad, but his suicide attempt brought more "mess" into her life. She is so brittle she would shatter if she really felt her grief. When Conrad hugs Beth, it is a out of love, but also to tell her he forgives her for her coldness, and inability to show her love. Forgiveness is a mighty thing, it releases the victim from pain, guilt, anger, and stagnation. Forgiveness forces the forgiven to be honest with themselves. Beth wasn't ready for the brutal honesty that she needed to face Bucks death. Oddly Calvin and Conrad will grow has father and son, Beth's growth is hers to decide.
@nickxero2740That doesn't mean she loved him more; she just protected all her negative traits onto you A narcissist can't love, although they fake it. She doesn't love her husband either
When Redford was developing the film he would go to the shore and look out over the ocean. He kept noticing that a lone figure would make their way down among the rocks then would sit and watch the crashing waves. He eventually made his way down to meet this person. It was Mary Tyler-Moore. She had recently lost her husband and took to going to the sea shore. Redford offered her a role on the spot. He said she had the exact look he imagined for the mom. I think like Katherine Hepburn in The Lion In Winter both actresses used their roles to vent and process grief. Hepburn had lost Spencer Tracy after spending years trying to watch over the tragic and troubled man.
I am sitting here sobbing uncontrollably just as I did when I saw this movie many moons ago in the movie theater. The most heartbreaking ending to any movie there ever was. The music, the emotion, it's all coming back. Life can be so complicated...but love is the answer. Such a strong message for our times.
I agree it was a sad end, but I think many movies have ended much sadder. Think of "Sophie's Choice", "Hotel Rwanda", "The House of Sand and Fog", "Leaving Las Vegas" and "Frozen River."
Without a shadow of doubt, my favorite movie. It was absolutely deserving of all of the awards it got that year, especially Best Picture. Edit: Dammit I started crying again
I remember the night this film premiered in my home town in the fall of 1980. About 150 of us sat in stunned silence [albeit for the many sniffles] all through the final scene and the entire closing theme and closing credits. No one got up from their seat until about 30 seconds after the lights came on. An incredibly moving film.
Recall Cal's remark--to himself "The yard seems smaller without leaves..." He could have said "Life seems worthless without illusions..." but he's a real person only now just becoming aware of his subconscious. That observation came from deep inside of him. Calvin is the one who had the strongest belief in the Jarret's common illusion of a happy marriage and a happy, solid, perfect family. The second half of the film is about Calvin's growing awareness that all is nowhere near perfect. Mr. Redford has directed many successful films, but this is the one for which, as a director, he will be remembered. The Blu-Ray edition of the film was recently released. Redford supervised the transfer from the camera negative himself. Get it and watch it carefully--the detail is astounding--especially his use of color to suggest mood.
@@timirish2563 I loved Cal's realization that Beth does not love Conrad, and therefore he can't love her. He's choosing his son over his wife. What a beautiful film.
The Canon is one of those unique pieces that can be both joyous and celebratory, and then also, like here, be haunting and reflective. Fry calls Pachelbel a one hit wonder, but my word, what a hit that was.
Great acting from Donald when he doesn't say too to finish the I love you reply. He's so emotional he can't say the word. Really great stuff in this scene from both
This film is a masterpiece. I was not around back then but I doubt a lot of movies told a story about psychology & the problems in an upperclass suburban family. Beth was all about surface & not any kind of meaningful connections esp with her son. Basically the only two survivors of bucks death were calvin & conrad. Beth may have well buried herself with buck. Conrad being very much like his mom tried to take himself out. He hated feeling anything much like beth. But he changed he went to a good therapist & grew & learned. Beth was incapable of change & she obviously was destroyed when her favorite child buck died. One scene she went into bucks room looking very melancholy & conrad started her & she screamed " don't do that " then she put herself together quick & tried to have a surface stranger chit chat with conrad & he tried to connect with her on just something as simple as trigonometry in school & if she found it tough. She did not want to connect on any level & just said " actually I dont know if I u took trig then says oh I bought u 2 shirts their on the bed & ran into her bedroom. Another sad scene was she saw her son sitting outside & she is watching him debating if she should go outside she does & again all surface level " are u cold? U want a sweater " & conrad starts to try & talk about a memory of buck & she shuts right down. She changes the subj to a neighbors dog. I felt sorry for beth bc she was trapped & refused to get help.
Mad Magazine had a spoof about this movie. It was so funny because at the end when she left you see the son and dad partying on drinking having a blast.
A beyone amazing ending. So much within it: Conrad's ultimate triumph over his inner demons, Conrad being able to be healthy and happy in a way he has never before known, Conrad finally no longer needing the acceptance and approval of his mother to feel good about himself, Conrad finally letting go of the guild over his brother's death and no longer blamimng himself. If that's not enough, Conrad and his father coming together and forming a strong bond that will be there for the rest of their lives. I'm sure there is more, but I can't see it. Anybody want to tell me what I'm missing?
As the psychiatrist said, Beth suffers from inability to express her emotions. In subtle ways, she tries to show love for Conrad, i.e., making his favorite French toast, asking him if he wants a sweater outside, etc. But that's all she's capable of. She's very emotionally damaged, likely beyond all hope
@@vaseemhadi8870 You could be right. But why is she so emotionally damaged? From her past? Things we just never learn about her? And If why she is damaged isn't important, then HOW is she damaged. I never understood it. Just exactly what is wrong with this woman and how does it affect her, besides not being able to love her own son and express her emotions or even have them?
That scene kinda got me a little bit because a my dad died on August 30 of this year on his birthday he was 60 something years old and the one thing I said to him like five or six years ago was I told him I loved him, and I thank God I said that to him
Donald Sutherland was great in this movie. His emotions, when Conrad told him that he loved him, Sutherland showed his true emotions. I always wonder, if he is acting, or was it just true emotions. He convinced me, that he is just a great actor. He did it again in The Time to Kill.
Great scene. I wish it could be posted here on UA-cam in better condition. I remember seeing it in the theatre in 1980, one could read the name on the cab, "Lake Forest Cab Company" - an indication that the film stock used in this posting is rather blurred. Still, one of the most powerful scenes in films.
So many things to go on this movie....... Wow!! I remember in 1980 my parents divorced... I was 10. Well... Hell... Almost everyones parents divorced in that year.... Anyway.... I felt like Connie.. I was close to my Dad and not my Mother.... I saw the " vulnerabile" side of Sutherland and my own Father at that time.... I really related..... Sometimes life is hard.... We just have to " hang on!!!"......
I can so relate as well. My parents divorced in 1984, my father was always distant and my mother was my world. Today I’m very close with my mother still, and have an amicable relationship with my father. It’s tough growing up and not having a connection with one parent, but having a loving connection with the other
That by general conception reminds Tarkovsky's Solaris (1972) final scene. Though it very different in spirit and more complex visually.. but also father and son... also music (here Pachelbel, there Bach)... and the camera moving up to the sky with the house and two men on the porch.
I thought that the mother didn't even want to tell her son goodbye before she left, then I thought but with her gone it would be peaceful, no more uneasiness and awkward situations, just genuine love between the father and his son.
@@mjt2231 nah she's an adult parent with a child that lost a brother who she treated like shit. She could have led to her other son killing himself through her own narcissistic behavior. These types of people are dangerous.
Do we think Beth ever came back? Could his final speech meant something to her in the long run? He truly nailed it in that scene, and it had to have registered with her. There is so much irony in this brilliant movie.
In the book, the Cal does say that he will take her back, but in the movie it is likely that they are done unless Beth does a lot of work on herself. She is a danger to Conrad
I likehow the movie leaves it open, but by the end of the movie, Conrad is really coming into his own , likewise being the stronger person between he and Beth. But you're right, she needed to a lot of work on herself.@@carlycrays2831
The dad said the oldest needed constant correction. Since he was her fave she probably became conditioned for tough love. All his trophies and awards were probably his way of trying to gain their approval. But his recklessness put him and his little brother in danger and the guilt caused him to give up. Thats what the younger was trying to keep from the parents, that their special boy gave up. And hiding it from them nearly destroyed him. The mom may be too rigid to accept that her too firm a hand created a troubled hero favorite son.
As long as a parent loves their child, that's the most important thing for a child. Parents can make mistakes but if a child senses that their parent really loves them, they will forgive the parent and will love them forever. And that's what Conrad knew about his father - that his father really loves him and really wanted to do what's best for him. That's why Conrad loved his dad so much and forgave him for any mistakes he did.
Calvin shows his son the protective side of fatherhood. Yes, he yells at him...but he does it so much love and care. You have to be strong to be a good father, you also have to be loving, generous, and compassionate. Calvin and Conrad have a father and son bond, they can grieve and grow together. It would have been interesting to have a Part 2. What happens to Beth? Does she really come to grips with Buck's death? Can she become a loving wife and mother? What is her relationship with Conrad? He had grown into an strong and emotional steady young man... Can she be the mother he needs? Beth loves her son, but doesn't know how to love him through her grief...she is lost in a sea of controlled anxiety.
una gran pelicula muestra la vida interna de una familia y al final se resuelve ubicando a cada uno de ellos ,la madre sin entender la problemática familiar y el padre se reencuentra con su hijo que gracias a la terapia y el soporte emocional que encontró en el psiquiatra en momentos críticos encuentra la salida a su complicada existencia y la platica al final con su padre culmina con un gran abrazo de amor fraternal
It strange because I've never watched the movie and knew little about it now until a long-time friend said that this is her favorite movie because it reminds her of herself. Her mom, who I knew as well, passed away of cancer last year and I always knew her to be a good person. I don't see too much correlation between my friend and Conrad however, I see similarities between Beth and my friend.
You are friend can be either a covert narcissist or someone with CPTSD; the latter might have narcissistic traits but has empathy. Narcissists are very good at faking.
Thank you for posting this...for some Reason the official VHS I have to this did not have the Final 6-7mins After the Mom Leaves?!....the Tape Ends ...Stops And Rewinds.
You misunderstand the character completely. She is broken beyond repair never to be the same ever again after her first child dies. Can't believe how many people can't pick up on this.
@@sallybrown5089 that doesn’t excuse the way she treated the dad and son. They were hurting just as much but you didn’t see them become despicable assholes because of it.
Yeah she's not a great person but her being the villain is not the point. It's her way of dealing with the trauma though wrong only because she was not ever willing to truly try & change. She just gave up basically
RIP Donald Sutherland. You will be dearly missed.
This proves he was excellent actor to bad that was the same year as Raging Bull
RIP Don
He deserved Oscar for this role! A total unjistice he didnt get it!!
He's dead? I'm sorry to hear that. RIP DS
I Didn't know He died😢 It seemed like He was immortal for a while. He made some stinkers but this was his best Role! Goodbye!!
When I heard that Donald Sutherland passed, this scene immediately popped in my head. Should have been nominated for an Oscar and Won for his role in Ordinary People.
Totally agree!!
I couldn’t agree more ❤
RIP, Donald Sutherland. A true legend.
RIP Donald Sutherland. This film and his performance seriously changed my life.
you couldn't have given donald sutherland a better compliment.
With Donald passing away today, I had to come back to this scene. I learned how important it is to be there for your kids as a Dad. I am raising my grandson and he made a simple request yesterday. My inclination was to say no because of inconvenience.i relented and said yes. It turned into a special moment and I need to pay more attention. I won’t have them forever. Thanks for reminder, Donald. I am not disappointed either.
More unfortunately, he won’t have you 😘
Beautifully expressed. God bless you & your grandson ❤
Donald Sutherland has such a strong paternal presence. So loving and caring. That’s one of the reasons why this scene is so impactful to me.
The ending makes me cry for three reasons: tragedy, heartbreak, and the true love for both the son and father.
Them 2 will make it. Fuck their mom!
Calvin realized she needed to be removed from the equation in order for him & his son to heal. At least that's how I interpreted it.
@@bobbyb7979 there's too many blaks in this movie
I faced the issue of the children blaming themselves for the parents faults, and it’s still bring me to tears on how Donald Sutherland shows his frailty as a human
@@patricklee8314 His performance was profound and so naturalistic. Timothy Hutton’s, too. They didn’t seem to be acting. These performances have lived in my heart ever since I first saw them in 1980.
I was 10 when this movie came out in 1980. First of identical twin boy's, us being youngest among 4 boy's. I will never forget how after we saw this movie as a family, we all, including mom just started staring at dad! It had just dawned on us all that we had this exact same dad! same feeling of comfort, sturdiness, security and that god given ability to have a handle on everything! We miss you dearly and love you so much my dad Richard Leroy Antonio. Untill paradise pop's.
What a beautiful tribute ❤
You & your family are so fortunate. 😊😊
What a nice guy and memory. RIP to him
Without question one of the best films ever made. If not the best.
The performances from MTM Hutton, Sutherland, Hirsch.
Impeccable.
Robert Redford doesnt rush anything.
His masterpiece.
Hutton was in his first major film role (he was 19 at the time). All of the others were playing way out of type…known before as comedic performers.
They literally can't make movies like this anymore. I lived it more or less. I called someone nervously, a gf and heard the 'Karen's dead. She killed herself' almost to the line.
I've long defended this film's winning Best Picture over "Raging Bull," and while De Niro may have deserved the Best Actor Oscar, it was absolutely criminal for Sutherland not have been at least nominated. RIP.
One of the most powerful endings to any movie ever. I wish they made movies like this nowadays.
I'm actually surprised they don't, movies like this could be made on a fraction of a fraction of what Hollywood movies cost.
Doesn’t fit their agenda
Try again, their only agenda is to make money.@@jademoon5103
" Everything is in it's proper place, except the past " is the tagline for this movie. A great movie.
Thank you, Donald Sutherland. Rest in peace.
2:30 It just hit me. This is when Conrad sees himself in his father. After his breakthroughs in therapy, he senses that his father is like him; vulnerable, self doubting, taking himself to task for not realizing when he could have helped someone. I always loved this final scene between them, but it really hits me now just how closely they’re finally brought together as father and son.
Well done. I never had seen that either, until you pointed it out.
Good point
This scene is everything, thank you Donald Sutherland -- such a fine performance in this film. The nuance, the detail, the spirit -- he had it all. Rest in beautiful peace.
Had to come watch this scene after I heard Donald passed. RIP
R.I.P. - Donald McNichol Sutherland CC (17 July 1935 - 20 June 2024)
One of the greatest movies of all time and one of the greatest songs of all time accompanying it.
I'm not disappointed. I love you.
Absolutely brilliant, writing, acting delivery. It grabs your soul.
Beth would have destroyed her still living child. Some mothers really do have so much love for their firstborns, they have nothing left for their other children, sometimes even their husbands. A beautiful and heartbreaking movie.
Beth loved Conrad, but his suicide attempt brought more "mess" into her life. She is so brittle she would shatter if she really felt her grief. When Conrad hugs Beth, it is a out of love, but also to tell her he forgives her for her coldness, and inability to show her love. Forgiveness is a mighty thing, it releases the victim from pain, guilt, anger, and stagnation. Forgiveness forces the forgiven to be honest with themselves. Beth wasn't ready for the brutal honesty that she needed to face Bucks death. Oddly Calvin and Conrad will grow has father and son, Beth's growth is hers to decide.
@@mikeinkc I'm sure she'll grow too, but she's gonna have to hit rock bottom first, HARD.
@@mikeinkc 100
@nickxero2740That doesn't mean she loved him more; she just protected all her negative traits onto you
A narcissist can't love, although they fake it.
She doesn't love her husband either
When Redford was developing the film he would go to the shore and look out over the ocean. He kept noticing that a lone figure would make their way down among the rocks then would sit and watch the crashing waves.
He eventually made his way down to meet this person. It was Mary Tyler-Moore. She had recently lost her husband and took to going to the sea shore. Redford offered her a role on the spot. He said she had the exact look he imagined for the mom.
I think like Katherine Hepburn in The Lion In Winter both actresses used their roles to vent and process grief. Hepburn had lost Spencer Tracy after spending years trying to watch over the tragic and troubled man.
RIP Donald Sutherland & Mary Tyler Moore
I am sitting here sobbing uncontrollably just as I did when I saw this movie many moons ago in the movie theater. The most heartbreaking ending to any movie there ever was. The music, the emotion, it's all coming back. Life can be so complicated...but love is the answer. Such a strong message for our times.
not heartbreaking at all, beautiful ending. About a person having the courage to do what was needed to save the rest of their family
I agree it was a sad end, but I think many movies have ended much sadder. Think of "Sophie's Choice", "Hotel Rwanda", "The House of Sand and Fog", "Leaving Las Vegas" and "Frozen River."
@@BigfistJP Leaving Las Vegas?!?! What the !!!!!
@@sallybrown4947 I guess you never saw the movie
@@BigfistJP of course I did.
RIP Donald Sutherland. Calvin Jarrett is among his roles that stand out.
Mr. Sutherland, mission accomplished. Rest In Peace.
This scene ALWAYS gets me. No matter how many times I watch it.
RIP Donald Sutherland
Jesus...I don't even think they were acting...how could they been? Tears every single time. Just brilliant.
Without a shadow of doubt, my favorite movie. It was absolutely deserving of all of the awards it got that year, especially Best Picture.
Edit: Dammit I started crying again
incredible scene........amazing performances by both.....brilliant writing and direction....they dont make them like this anymore...thanks for posting
One of my favorite films. It is a masterpiece.
I remember the night this film premiered in my home town in the fall of 1980. About 150 of us sat in stunned silence [albeit for the many sniffles] all through the final scene and the entire closing theme and closing credits. No one got up from their seat until about 30 seconds after the lights came on. An incredibly moving film.
How Different it is when a mother leaves and the father seems relieved. A sensible ending to a wonderful story
Recall Cal's remark--to himself "The yard seems smaller without leaves..." He could have said "Life seems worthless without illusions..." but he's a real person only now just becoming aware of his subconscious. That observation came from deep inside of him. Calvin is the one who had the strongest belief in the Jarret's common illusion of a happy marriage and a happy, solid, perfect family. The second half of the film is about Calvin's growing awareness that all is nowhere near perfect. Mr. Redford has directed many successful films, but this is the one for which, as a director, he will be remembered. The Blu-Ray edition of the film was recently released. Redford supervised the transfer from the camera negative himself. Get it and watch it carefully--the detail is astounding--especially his use of color to suggest mood.
@@timirish2563 I loved Cal's realization that Beth does not love Conrad, and therefore he can't love her. He's choosing his son over his wife. What a beautiful film.
The Canon is one of those unique pieces that can be both joyous and celebratory, and then also, like here, be haunting and reflective. Fry calls Pachelbel a one hit wonder, but my word, what a hit that was.
Great acting from Donald when he doesn't say too to finish the I love you reply. He's so emotional he can't say the word. Really great stuff in this scene from both
A powerful scene....a father protecting his son
DeNiro deserved his Best Actor Oscar but Sutherland should have been one of the nominees. Wonderful performance.
They both needed a hug
Jesus, this film punches you in the Feels. Not unlike another great movie, The Dead Poet’s Society.
This film is a masterpiece. I was not around back then but I doubt a lot of movies told a story about psychology & the problems in an upperclass suburban family. Beth was all about surface & not any kind of meaningful connections esp with her son. Basically the only two survivors of bucks death were calvin & conrad. Beth may have well buried herself with buck. Conrad being very much like his mom tried to take himself out. He hated feeling anything much like beth. But he changed he went to a good therapist & grew & learned. Beth was incapable of change & she obviously was destroyed when her favorite child buck died. One scene she went into bucks room looking very melancholy & conrad started her & she screamed " don't do that " then she put herself together quick & tried to have a surface stranger chit chat with conrad & he tried to connect with her on just something as simple as trigonometry in school & if she found it tough. She did not want to connect on any level & just said " actually I dont know if I u took trig then says oh I bought u 2 shirts their on the bed & ran into her bedroom. Another sad scene was she saw her son sitting outside & she is watching him debating if she should go outside she does & again all surface level " are u cold? U want a sweater " & conrad starts to try & talk about a memory of buck & she shuts right down. She changes the subj to a neighbors dog. I felt sorry for beth bc she was trapped & refused to get help.
The breaking point of a family, somehow salvaged. Powerful ending.
This scene gets me every single time the minute he says “I love you”and then he says “I love you too”😢😢😢
Father and Son were probably much happier in the long run.
Mad Magazine had a spoof about this movie. It was so funny because at the end when she left you see the son and dad partying on drinking having a blast.
A beyone amazing ending. So much within it: Conrad's ultimate triumph over his inner demons, Conrad being able to be healthy and happy in a way he has never before known, Conrad finally no longer needing the acceptance and approval of his mother to feel good about himself, Conrad finally letting go of the guild over his brother's death and no longer blamimng himself. If that's not enough, Conrad and his father coming together and forming a strong bond that will be there for the rest of their lives. I'm sure there is more, but I can't see it. Anybody want to tell me what I'm missing?
Conrad realizes his mother does not love him but it’s not his fault. She has frailties
He accepts her as she is
As the psychiatrist said, Beth suffers from inability to express her emotions. In subtle ways, she tries to show love for Conrad, i.e., making his favorite French toast, asking him if he wants a sweater outside, etc. But that's all she's capable of. She's very emotionally damaged, likely beyond all hope
@@vaseemhadi8870 You could be right. But why is she so emotionally damaged? From her past? Things we just never learn about her? And If why she is damaged isn't important, then HOW is she damaged. I never understood it. Just exactly what is wrong with this woman and how does it affect her, besides not being able to love her own son and express her emotions or even have them?
That scene kinda got me a little bit because a my dad died on August 30 of this year on his birthday he was 60 something years old and the one thing I said to him like five or six years ago was I told him I loved him, and I thank God I said that to him
one of my very favorite movies of all time...maybe even the favorite...its that good, at least for me.
My goodness...
This movie.
Judith Guest's beautiful story so well portrayed in this movie. Life is worth living.
Gets me every time. The tears are rolling down my cheeks. 😢
This song along with John Barry's Somewhere in Time makes me tear up every time I listen to them.
@@donwilcox728 Funny you should mention that - one of my other videos is the Somewhere In Time end credits 😍🥹
Marvelous movie. Script and all involved excellent.
I can relate to this as a parent. We try our best, hoping desperately that we’re doing it right
I have watched this scene so many time and I cry every time- so powerful
Best love scene ever.
Donald Sutherland was great in this movie. His emotions, when Conrad told him that he loved him, Sutherland showed his true emotions. I always wonder, if he is acting, or was it just true emotions. He convinced me, that he is just a great actor. He did it again in The Time to Kill.
Meraviglioso.
Great scene. I wish it could be posted here on UA-cam in better condition. I remember seeing it in the theatre in 1980, one could read the name on the cab, "Lake Forest Cab Company" - an indication that the film stock used in this posting is rather blurred. Still, one of the most powerful scenes in films.
This brings back memories. Yep a tear or two fell
Great movie and acting
Close the damn door letting all the heat outside!!!
This is such an amazing movie.
Great film. Great ensemble cast.
think about your own family watching this revealing moment
Magnificent ❤❤❤
I didn't understand this movie as a child. I didn't know about narcissists then.
So many things to go on this movie....... Wow!! I remember in 1980 my parents divorced... I was 10. Well... Hell... Almost everyones parents divorced in that year.... Anyway.... I felt like Connie.. I was close to my Dad and not my Mother.... I saw the " vulnerabile" side of Sutherland and my own Father at that time.... I really related..... Sometimes life is hard.... We just have to " hang on!!!"......
I can so relate as well. My parents divorced in 1984, my father was always distant and my mother was my world. Today I’m very close with my mother still, and have an amicable relationship with my father. It’s tough growing up and not having a connection with one parent, but having a loving connection with the other
Im a blubbering mess watching this scene.So moving ❤
I LOVE this movie
Sobbing
That by general conception reminds Tarkovsky's Solaris (1972) final scene. Though it very different in spirit and more complex visually.. but also father and son... also music (here Pachelbel, there Bach)... and the camera moving up to the sky with the house and two men on the porch.
The most realistic story ever made.
I thought that the mother didn't even want to tell her son goodbye before she left, then I thought but with her gone it would be peaceful, no more uneasiness and awkward situations, just genuine love between the father and his son.
I gotta give it to Mary Tyler Moore, it's a gutsy move to be the hated character in a movie.
She was so good. So not like Mary Richards or Mrs. Petrie. Bravo and RIP MTM.
But you gotta feel for her. She's clearly got pain too. Can't be easy losing your beloved oldest son.
@@mjt2231 nah she's an adult parent with a child that lost a brother who she treated like shit. She could have led to her other son killing himself through her own narcissistic behavior. These types of people are dangerous.
@@notmytruthTHEtruth you missed the point of her struggles
mother couldn't hug him back but father could...
The truth hurts! What a drag knowing his Mom doesn't love him. I think the beautiful music is by Mendelson.
...the music is "Canon in D" by Johann Pachelbel 👍
Do we think Beth ever came back? Could his final speech meant something to her in the long run? He truly nailed it in that scene, and it had to have registered with her. There is so much irony in this brilliant movie.
No, I don’t think she does. She’s not really capable or strong. I don’t think she has the capacity to love her son,that still living.
I don't think she ever came back, but I do think she and Conrad reestablished contact later on.
In the book, the Cal does say that he will take her back, but in the movie it is likely that they are done unless Beth does a lot of work on herself. She is a danger to Conrad
I likehow the movie leaves it open, but by the end of the movie, Conrad is really coming into his own , likewise being the stronger person between he and Beth. But you're right, she needed to a lot of work on herself.@@carlycrays2831
The dad said the oldest needed constant correction. Since he was her fave she probably became conditioned for tough love. All his trophies and awards were probably his way of trying to gain their approval.
But his recklessness put him and his little brother in danger and the guilt caused him to give up. Thats what the younger was trying to keep from the parents, that their special boy gave up. And hiding it from them nearly destroyed him.
The mom may be too rigid to accept that her too firm a hand created a troubled hero favorite son.
As long as a parent loves their child, that's the most important thing for a child. Parents can make mistakes but if a child senses that their parent really loves them, they will forgive the parent and will love them forever. And that's what Conrad knew about his father - that his father really loves him and really wanted to do what's best for him. That's why Conrad loved his dad so much and forgave him for any mistakes he did.
Calvin shows his son the protective side of fatherhood. Yes, he yells at him...but he does it so much love and care. You have to be strong to be a good father, you also have to be loving, generous, and compassionate. Calvin and Conrad have a father and son bond, they can grieve and grow together. It would have been interesting to have a Part 2. What happens to Beth? Does she really come to grips with Buck's death? Can she become a loving wife and mother? What is her relationship with Conrad? He had grown into an strong and emotional steady young man... Can she be the mother he needs? Beth loves her son, but doesn't know how to love him through her grief...she is lost in a sea of controlled anxiety.
Materialism and image don’t necessarily bring with them joy and happiness to your party.
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I could watch this movie 100 times a day.
Gorgeous ending ❤
Who cut those onions🥺 .😪
So many onions 😭
una gran pelicula muestra la vida interna de una familia y al final se resuelve ubicando a cada uno de ellos ,la madre sin entender la problemática
familiar y el padre se reencuentra con su hijo que gracias a la terapia y el soporte emocional que encontró en el psiquiatra en momentos críticos encuentra la salida a su complicada existencia y la platica al final con su padre culmina con un gran abrazo de amor fraternal
It strange because I've never watched the movie and knew little about it now until a long-time friend said that this is her favorite movie because it reminds her of herself. Her mom, who I knew as well, passed away of cancer last year and I always knew her to be a good person. I don't see too much correlation between my friend and Conrad however, I see similarities between Beth and my friend.
You are friend can be either a covert narcissist or someone with CPTSD; the latter might have narcissistic traits but has empathy. Narcissists are very good at faking.
Great ending. Thanks.
Thank you for posting this...for some Reason the official VHS I have to this did not have the Final 6-7mins After the Mom Leaves?!....the Tape Ends ...Stops And Rewinds.
Love this movie. ❤❤❤
It was one of the most influential films of my journey. I saw it numerous times and it helped pull me thru.
I hated the mother so much. I was hoping Conrad would put rat poison in her wine.
You misunderstand the character completely. She is broken beyond repair never to be the same ever again after her first child dies. Can't believe how many people can't pick up on this.
@@sallybrown5089 yeah and she's a cold, horrible cunt ... in other words, Mary Tyler Moore was typecast
@@sallybrown5089 that doesn’t excuse the way she treated the dad and son. They were hurting just as much but you didn’t see them become despicable assholes because of it.
Yeah she's not a great person but her being the villain is not the point. It's her way of dealing with the trauma though wrong only because she was not ever willing to truly try & change. She just gave up basically
The Mother was a victim and broken after the death of her first child. She needed therapy to deal with these issues.
This movie could have easily turned to dopey soap opera, but the actors and director kicked ass. Major ass.
best thing she did was leaving them.
Selfish lack empathy and compassion .
Just boo-hooing.....
A beautiful human story. A perfect movie so full of humanity . All involved can be so proud of what they created.
The ghastly, shut-down "niceness" of suburbia, covering up generations of inherited and inflicted pain, "never to be talked about." Gasp.