The 360Hz OLED dream is here.

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  • Опубліковано 14 лис 2024

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  • @optimumtech
    @optimumtech  10 місяців тому +811

    The upcoming 1440p 480Hz W-OLED from LG / Asus is going to be even better than this, but more expensive.
    And as always, expect to see this 360Hz panel on a range of different branded monitors so take your pick.

    • @shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh
      @shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh 10 місяців тому +31

      it will be matte, that means it will be garbo

    • @stel9178
      @stel9178 10 місяців тому

      @@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh matte is not that bad. Im using a samsung matte monitor (IPS LCD, 240HZ, 1440P) and not looks clean af.

    • @jolizana96
      @jolizana96 10 місяців тому +5

      W-OLED better?

    • @tokio772
      @tokio772 10 місяців тому +10

      @@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruhno , its actually glossy

    • @tasilama4707
      @tasilama4707 10 місяців тому +8

      I heard asus 1440p 480hz oled monitor has glossy screen

  • @dsl4n
    @dsl4n 10 місяців тому +1860

    Ain't no way he got a bmpcc 6k, an fx3, a Ronin 4d, a 4090, a Mac studio, an audi rs3, a gym and a literal warehouse💀
    bro fr livin the dream.❤
    Edit: dang this blew up. I respect the grind btw

    • @achannelhasnoname5182
      @achannelhasnoname5182 10 місяців тому +109

      Wild how much money youtube can make

    • @Simon_Denmark
      @Simon_Denmark 10 місяців тому

      @@achannelhasnoname5182 I honestly highly doubt that all of the money is coming from youtube.

    • @Shanky2002
      @Shanky2002 10 місяців тому +178

      And he don’t even put sponsors and ads in his videos 🫡

    • @ramendino_
      @ramendino_ 10 місяців тому

      @@achannelhasnoname5182wild how low the margins are too.. editors are EXPENSIVE dude. recently found that out haha

    • @maxzett
      @maxzett 10 місяців тому +13

      ​@@Shanky2002how does he make money then lol

  • @Ominous784
    @Ominous784 10 місяців тому +852

    It's crazy that all of the sudden we're finally getting these super high quality monitors, we had a heavily saturated market with 360Hertz and 1080p but these 1440p OLED and 240/360/480 is just so crazy to me

    • @riichobamin7612
      @riichobamin7612 10 місяців тому +103

      The best part is, the last gen OLED monitors will now get a price drop hehehe

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 10 місяців тому

      ​@@riichobamin7612and non-OLED will become dirt cheap

    • @Ominous784
      @Ominous784 10 місяців тому +12

      @@riichobamin7612 yessirr, can't wait to get the LG OLED or sum like it

    • @riichobamin7612
      @riichobamin7612 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Ominous784 me too woohoo !

    • @sermerlin1
      @sermerlin1 10 місяців тому +81

      It's crazy that we are ACTUALLY seeing year to year advancements in monitor tech. FINALLY we are observing progress again. Last 5 - 8 years it was really cumbersome and slow. All very incremental improvements. 75-100-120-144-165-180-200-240... And they all had huge issues with artefacting/overshooting/incredibly slow pixel response.
      But finally we are observing some insane advancements. Insane motion clarity, pixel response (literally no overshoot/artefact). Year to year advancement in refresh rate (240/360/480...).
      Also HUUUGE range of display variants. 27-32-34... ultra wides/ super ultra wides...
      And we have 2 competing OLED technologies... WRGB and QD-OLED and both kick ass. AND THEY'RE NOT OVERLY EXPENSIVE!
      Man i'm finally getting excited over monitor techs.

  • @MrAl2742
    @MrAl2742 10 місяців тому +196

    Hello guys, if anyone's wondering why the glossy msi coating didn't look much that better than asus's matte coating it's because ambient light inadvertedly activates the qdcc layer inside the qd oled panel due to the lack of polarizer, so the black level is raised quite a bit more compared to the woled. There's an awesome video from tftcentral if you guys want to know more.

    • @Mechanomly
      @Mechanomly 10 місяців тому

      Link?

    • @MrAl2742
      @MrAl2742 10 місяців тому

      @@Mechanomly It's the one about the oled black depth.

    • @kakashi99908
      @kakashi99908 7 місяців тому +1

      so msi is bad?

    • @Mechanomly
      @Mechanomly 7 місяців тому +2

      @@kakashi99908Not at all what the comment suggested. Any qd-oled gets considerably raised blacks when in a bright environment, but besides I don't think oleds are well-suited for a bright setup anyway.

    • @mhnoni
      @mhnoni 6 місяців тому

      @@kakashi99908 all qd-oled are bad for gaming unless you can spare cash, they get burned in faster and the black isn't that dark, so get the woled if you are short in cash.

  • @MINI_91
    @MINI_91 10 місяців тому +29

    Best tech channel on the platform for me, hands down.
    I love your content and the production value and explanations are just above everyone else in my book.
    And thank you for not being obnoxiously over the top and just being calm and down to Earth. It makes for a much better better watching experience.

  • @duckyatsea
    @duckyatsea 10 місяців тому +255

    The sad part is that the text issue is only on Windows and they COULD fix it on OLEDs and other panel types, but they don’t care enough to do it

    • @teekanne15
      @teekanne15 10 місяців тому +76

      I read a while back, that if you deactivate windows clear type it becomes much better. Clear type optimizes for a specific pixel layout which results in worse than standard text with OLED

    • @tr4nnel752
      @tr4nnel752 10 місяців тому +3

      I think it is also on mac.. 1440p on Mac doesnt look super sharp to begin with. But let me know if you have any sources that state the contrary.

    • @Techfanatic73
      @Techfanatic73 10 місяців тому +15

      @@tr4nnel752 Completely incorrect. Not an issue on Mac.

    • @tr4nnel752
      @tr4nnel752 10 місяців тому +37

      @@Techfanatic73 That is just bs. Mac has the same issues with text clarity on 1440p. If you have a 4k oled panel, the issue isn't as noticable, both on Mac and Windows.

    • @Your_Paramour
      @Your_Paramour 10 місяців тому +7

      The problem on windows is that individual applications are able to do their own layout engine (idk what the name is), so even if Microsoft were to make windows better at handling non-standard pixel layouts, you can still run into issues with programs like chrome, photoshop etc. It would be a step in the right direction though.

  • @JWhite-Fishing
    @JWhite-Fishing 10 місяців тому +29

    If they nail Black Frame Insertion @ 50% refresh on the new 480hz WOLED panels, they'll be the way to go for supreme motion clarity.

    • @SB-mr2nk
      @SB-mr2nk 10 місяців тому +1

      This is what I need!

  • @tucci06
    @tucci06 10 місяців тому +22

    I bought an AW3423DWF a few months ago and it's totally blown my mind. It was my first real premium monitor. I didn't realize how good HDR was and combined with OLED and ultrawide, it's such an insanely huge overall system upgrade.

    • @SG-tx1fz
      @SG-tx1fz 9 місяців тому +2

      Be ready for it to burn in just a few days after warranty is overdue

    • @ronniekregar3482
      @ronniekregar3482 9 місяців тому

      ​@@SG-tx1fzburn in schmurn in, OLED is established tech at this point, not something you need to worry about

  • @mcst6969
    @mcst6969 10 місяців тому +40

    The black is grey because Samsung doesn't have a polarizer layer in them(LG do). Same story with last years Samsung qd-oled panels (alienware aw3423dw for example) and with this latest gen panel too, already confirmed by HUB.

    • @userblame632
      @userblame632 10 місяців тому +18

      if there is light shining on the monitor, yes, otherwise it is black. Source: I own aw3423dw

    • @zephaniah666
      @zephaniah666 10 місяців тому

      im with @@userblame632 i own the g8 oled and have perfect inky blacks

    • @mrxcs
      @mrxcs 9 місяців тому +6

      It's not the polarizer, the quantum dot layer it's on top and they absorb light and shine, a little like those construction vests.

    • @Dr.WhetFarts
      @Dr.WhetFarts 27 днів тому

      Who cares, if you buy OLED to use in a bright room, then you are better off with LCD anyway. OLED is for dim or dark room usage and it will wipe the floor with LCD here. QD-OLED has 3 times the colorvolume in RGB subpixels than WOLED, yet even WOLED shites on LCD.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 22 дні тому

      @@userblame632 obviously if there is no light, then everything is "black"

  • @Savitarax
    @Savitarax 10 місяців тому +11

    the fact that we can have it all. QD-OLED colors, ULMB2 like motion clarity. 360Hz optimal refresh rate for a bunch of games.
    Glossy coating for more sensitive matte users. It’s just ENDGAME in really every way.

    • @luukherfst1209
      @luukherfst1209 3 місяці тому +1

      Don't forgot it being 1440p at 27 inch. 27 is still fine for comp games and the size also offers good ppi while also being big enough to appreciate 1440p resolution

  • @Weepsy_
    @Weepsy_ 10 місяців тому +205

    Brother is really making top notch content for us and I'm even happier that the first 2024 vid was monitor related

    • @nicktan4530
      @nicktan4530 10 місяців тому +1

      But this guy dont care about you.He dont reply people.

    • @Shieftain
      @Shieftain 10 місяців тому +1

      @@nicktan4530 Not true at all. He replied to one of my replies in a comment chain about him memorizing monitor names where I claimed that he was reading monitor names off screen because he was occasionally breaking eye contact with the camera and looking to the side.

    • @nicktan4530
      @nicktan4530 10 місяців тому

      @@Shieftain Just because he replied one of your replies does not means he will reply you again nor actually reply others. Sad reality.

    • @Shieftain
      @Shieftain 10 місяців тому +2

      @@nicktan4530 I'm just using myself as an example. I'm sure he's replied to plenty of others. Why does that even matter anyway? Are you some kind of stalker-ish fanboy that has been hounding Ali on every single video and are upset because he never replied to you?

    • @nicktan4530
      @nicktan4530 10 місяців тому

      @@Shieftain no am not but either way he does not reply to others as well.

  • @Daw1dk
    @Daw1dk 10 місяців тому +22

    I never thought that I would be able to get even close to touching 240hz, Now I have my own Asus 240hz OLED and its amazing! From an LED TV 60hz to an ASUS 240hz OLED was a massive jump!

    • @keppycs
      @keppycs 10 місяців тому +10

      And now you can never downgrade from 240hz or oled! xd

    • @Daw1dk
      @Daw1dk 10 місяців тому +2

      @@keppycs lol

    • @kiisseli1337
      @kiisseli1337 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@keppycsNo need to. In 5 years we have newer OLED tech and all gaming monitors will be 240hz+

    • @ronniekregar3482
      @ronniekregar3482 9 місяців тому

      I went from a 175hz OLED that I was using for over a year to a 240hz OLED and I can't feel a difference at all, literally zero difference. Kinda disappointed to be honest. I'm doing everything I can to convince myself I feel it, but I just don't.

    • @keppycs
      @keppycs 9 місяців тому

      @@ronniekregar3482 In game, lock your eyes on any object (I prefer looking at a corner of a wall), move your mouse left and right at various speeds, so that the object moves back and forth on screen. Now toggle on and off an fps limit. For me, this test made the difference easily distinguishable.

  • @obocecha
    @obocecha 10 місяців тому +3

    I’ve been using the Alienware QD OLED for over a year now and I will absolutely never go back to IPS. These are so superior in every way.

  • @kostistsiutras4373
    @kostistsiutras4373 10 місяців тому +12

    the market is missing lower inch 1440p monitors like 25" 1440p 300hz Oled would be insane due to ppi / inch it would be almost like 4k quality on a smaller 25" competitive display for better peripheral vision, Oled for instant pixel transition and super clean image while maxing out FPS/Hz every single game on the market at 300hz 1440p with a 4090.

  • @SpaghettiViking1
    @SpaghettiViking1 10 місяців тому +12

    So excited to see these monitors become more and more mainstream.
    Prices will come down over time, I hope.

  • @pb5109
    @pb5109 10 місяців тому +60

    2024 is the "Year of the monitor"

    • @spencerpatton805
      @spencerpatton805 10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah it’s about damn time. Jesus Chris

    • @aaronv3859
      @aaronv3859 10 місяців тому +1

      it’s also gonna be year of optimum 😎

    • @hi_its_jerry
      @hi_its_jerry 10 місяців тому

      it really is!!!

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 10 місяців тому +1

      The year of OLED
      Now all we need is a 24 inch 1080p OLEDs for the masses and LCDs will be officially dead

    • @pranze3484
      @pranze3484 10 місяців тому

      Well it stagnated so badly for years now... Bout time finally

  • @salsa_ow
    @salsa_ow 10 місяців тому +15

    Your videos are informative, comforting and inspiring. This is one of my favorite UA-cam channels lately, also love your transparency and effort when measuring performance and specs. Keep doing what you are doing! Also please do another setup review, those are lots of fun.

  • @filip9587
    @filip9587 10 місяців тому +77

    I'm certainly getting a 360hz or 480hz OLED monitor this year. I can't wait for the performance benchmarks and the low motion blur implementations.

    • @RealLordShaxx
      @RealLordShaxx 10 місяців тому +7

      Im going for that dual mode 4k 240hz/1080p 480hz oled.

    • @filip9587
      @filip9587 10 місяців тому +3

      @@RealLordShaxx I hope there'll be a 1440p 360hz mode as well, making it triple mode. Should be possible through a firmware update, as the panel's tech is there.

    • @BALLBOY52
      @BALLBOY52 10 місяців тому

      that just isnt how pixel scaling works. it's 4k/1080p because they're both 2k resolutions, 1920x1080 is a perfect multiple of 3840x2160
      2560x1440 is a 2.5k resolution
      yes it's possible, but it certainly wouldn't look good@@filip9587

    • @trixniisama
      @trixniisama 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@filip9587Yes and no. A 1440p mode would effectively be quite a bit worse image quality wise because you can't integer scale the image anymore (1080p->4K is 2x on each axis).

    • @filip9587
      @filip9587 10 місяців тому +2

      @@trixniisama Thanks for the clarification. I suppose it's not a technology problem, but more of a physical maths problem.

  • @Kaita05
    @Kaita05 10 місяців тому +4

    Getting extremely excited to see you reach 1m subs! Well deserved and this video is just another example of the premium quality you put out.

  • @nero1138
    @nero1138 10 місяців тому +3

    After watching your video about the ASUS OLED I bought it and I have been playing on it for quite some time and I gotta say that I am still amazed about colours and Visuals. Especially in Esport games ur game just feels really clear

  • @seanyeatts
    @seanyeatts 10 місяців тому +3

    Holy moly did I just hear 480?
    Man that’s great - refresh rates are getting so fast it’s almost like they’re “done” with that performance metric and can start prioritizing innovation of other features to keep bumping up the overall quality.

  • @vivekis
    @vivekis 10 місяців тому +3

    I've seen the coverage elsewhere but I always look forward to your videos because I get an actual gamer's viewpoint. Great stuff!

  • @foryallshorts
    @foryallshorts 10 місяців тому +5

    it felt like yesterday when 240hz monitors where so rare to find

  • @MrOrangeonion
    @MrOrangeonion 10 місяців тому +1

    This guy is literally the one i expected and hoped to be doing the video when i saw the title.

  • @KalebSDay
    @KalebSDay 10 місяців тому +4

    This might be the first time I have ever seen a live side by side being ran on a non oled and an oled for comparison. Usually never cared that much about the hype, but this is the first time I actually gained a bit of an appreciation for what oled can do for those really dark areas. Well done man :)

  • @converter3122
    @converter3122 10 місяців тому +1

    I like how the video starts, straight to the point.

  • @cluckendip
    @cluckendip 10 місяців тому +8

    1440p
    360hz
    OLED
    literally my dream monitor

    • @TheCabIe
      @TheCabIe 10 місяців тому

      Mine too, if warranty checks out because ultimately it's still OLED and if you intend to realistically use the 360hz most of the time, it means you are playing multiplayer FPS games with HUD (CS2/Valorant/OW2 etc.) for multiple hours a day, and HUD is very likely to cause a burn-in. He mentions how he played Overwatch for 600 hours and no burn-in so far, but if you want to play, let's say, 4 hours a day, 600 hours is not even half a year, it's kind of meaningless.
      With Alienware's 3-year warranty it's decent, but it's still quite expensive compared to LCDs as most people wouldn't want to replace their ~$1000 product within 3 years. It's a sick product, but it's still quite premium. But if you have money and aren't bothered with replacements via warranty it's godlike for sure.

    • @2030soonbehere
      @2030soonbehere 6 місяців тому

      @@TheCabIe I have just bought this screen due to the reviews. The burn-in issue today is not a worry. I have had three OLED TVs since the 4K tech has been around. My LG B7 was stunning. But suffered from really bad burn-in. The Panasonic HZ1000 had no problems at all. I have that TV running still. With family on you tube and icons on TV channels, its 5 years old now and no burn-in to be seen. I then bought and still have an LG G2 WOLED. Two years old now, and no issues. Xbox SX and PS5 have not harmed this screen. It's due to the extra pixel they have added. There were 3 colours but now there is 4. Plus, an heatsink on the panel. Burn-in on OLED TV's is not like on and old CRT. It just a pixel being driven harder than the others. Red and yellow OLED colour was a massive problem. The colour is harder to drive. But with the extra white pixel, the problem is now mute. LG give a 5-year warranty on its TV panels. Don't worry about burn-in. Watch HDTV Test. Vincent put a 50% white square in HDR and leaves it for 4 hours. It marks the screen with image retention, but he runs the pixel cleaner, and it goes. Enjoy your OLED screens. BTW on my G2 TV I also have logo dimming turned off. No problems after nearly two years.

  • @Vunerio
    @Vunerio 10 місяців тому +1

    I have LG 27GR95QE-B and I couldn’t be happier. Just amazing quality.

    • @andrewmorris3479
      @andrewmorris3479 10 місяців тому +1

      It’s a wonderful monitor! Had mine since last January and it’s been flawless.

  • @andrewmorris3479
    @andrewmorris3479 10 місяців тому +12

    Awesome video! Just ordered my AW2725DF! It’s my dream monitor mainly for the glossy display and near perfect sRGB color calibration so I can play Halo 3 the way it was meant to.
    I have to disagree on matte vs glossy when web browsing though. I’ve had the LG 27GR95QE for a year now and in a dark room the matte finish kinda destroys the crystal clear quality of whites vs a glossy panel.

  • @lukecarter861
    @lukecarter861 10 місяців тому +7

    Now this is the reviewer I was waiting for!

  • @chekote
    @chekote 10 місяців тому +15

    I’d really love to have you do one of these for the best 4K OLED screen. I understand why you prefer the crazy refresh rates of lower res monitors, but us 4K people need some love too 🥺

    • @sudd3660
      @sudd3660 10 місяців тому +1

      and it is easier to double the resolution than double the fps. and scaling down resolution work much batter than lowering fps.
      so we really need 4k 480hz soon, frame gen starts at 200fps i would say, so you need 400hz display to get those extra frames.

    • @Keivz
      @Keivz 10 місяців тому +4

      There are no reasonably sized (non-productivity) 4k oled monitors currently available. He'll review the upcoming 32" 4K oled monitors closer to launch.

    • @BarneyDesmond
      @BarneyDesmond 10 місяців тому

      I'm hoping the same too, I had a quick look at the market and there's almost nothing in the 32-34" space, it's all 40+ inches.
      4K at 32-34" size would be nice but I'd be happy enough with my current 1440p. There's a Philips and Samsung model, and an upcoming MSI, but they're all 3440x1440 ultrawides for some reason

    • @fu928
      @fu928 10 місяців тому

      4K at 27 inch is useless

    • @chekote
      @chekote 10 місяців тому

      @@fu928 maybe for you. I have 4K screens of various sizes, including 27”, and they are very useful.

  • @shaiba44
    @shaiba44 10 місяців тому +2

    Incredible video! Happy New Year to you and those who read this ;)

  • @Kryptix0III
    @Kryptix0III 10 місяців тому +3

    OLED gaming revolution this year

  • @Asian_Import
    @Asian_Import 10 місяців тому +1

    He said "They told me not to do any testing, but I'm going to do it anyways". This is why we subscribe!!

  • @eedoamitay3341
    @eedoamitay3341 10 місяців тому +23

    As soon as they start releasing budget oled monitors, then it will start making a lot of sense because the risk of burn it will then highly be worth it considering the value you get in return, and if you do ever need to replace it the price will finally be in the range where it wont be hard to accept.

    • @sermerlin1
      @sermerlin1 10 місяців тому +2

      People usually replace monitors in 3-4 years and using it daily for 4-5 hours will get burn in after 3-4 years with these current oled technologies.

    • @JohnnyBeGoodz
      @JohnnyBeGoodz 10 місяців тому +3

      You’ll be waiting YEARS for OLED monitors to reach “budget” pricing.

    • @Techfanatic73
      @Techfanatic73 10 місяців тому +12

      @@sermerlin1 No they don't. Lol. Gamers maybe. Most people don't even replace their computer every 3-4 years. Especially if it's a desktop thats powerful.

    • @Mahonki
      @Mahonki 10 місяців тому +10

      More like 8 or more years to replace a working monitor

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic 10 місяців тому +3

      3-4 years is crazy… But I’ve stopped doubting people lol

  • @zeryphex
    @zeryphex 9 місяців тому

    Showing comparisons side-by-side is immense and impressive.

  • @tomwarren
    @tomwarren 10 місяців тому +3

    Been waiting for your take on these 🙏

  • @judemecham5175
    @judemecham5175 10 місяців тому +1

    As one of your first I will always remember your old logo your channel has grown an insane amount

  • @jeffreystangojr
    @jeffreystangojr 10 місяців тому +12

    OLED monitors are absolutely beautiful but I’m too worried about burn in to buy one. It’s a pretty large investment so I really wouldn't want to be purchasing a new one for a really long time.

    • @richardcheese9152
      @richardcheese9152 10 місяців тому +12

      Yeah exactly. An endgame monitor like that you'd ideally want 5 years with, minimum. Minimum. And the warranties covering 2 years is a bit concerning because that means they know failures jump up after that time frame for the average user

    • @jeffreystangojr
      @jeffreystangojr 10 місяців тому

      @@richardcheese9152 This is exactly why I'm so conflicted. OLED TVs have been around for a while now, but the Windows interface always displays. Also, there are far less 1440p 240hz IPS options which pushes you towards OLED.

    • @mobarakjama5570
      @mobarakjama5570 10 місяців тому

      @@richardcheese9152Alienware offers 3 years if that's any consolation.

    • @fercon9892
      @fercon9892 10 місяців тому +1

      Need to disable static taskbar and enable a short sleep setting. Not sure if pixel orbit is still a thing but could do that too. And make a habit of closing blinds and turning down the brightness. Should be okay if u do those things

    • @jeffreystangojr
      @jeffreystangojr 10 місяців тому

      @@fercon9892 It just doesn’t fill me with confidence that I even have to take these measures (even though I know it’s things I should also probably do with my IPS monitor)

  • @ElderWillows
    @ElderWillows 10 місяців тому +2

    Burn in is getting mostly solved, can't wait to see prices on these fall to the point where I can consider a 2nd OLED monitor in the glossy option. Then I can see for myself wether it even matters, but in my experience matte is more than fine.

  • @OC.TINYYY
    @OC.TINYYY 10 місяців тому +4

    This is why QD OLEDs suck in anything but a dark room. Have had my fair share of experience w/ them & side by side its a night & day difference in black levels compared to a WOLED. QD OLED contrast is even worse than VA in an average lit room.

  • @likafoss
    @likafoss 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for letting us know about the announcement. I will patiently wait to go broke on a 480 OLED in the future and keep my ViewSonic XG2431 for now XD

  • @giff74
    @giff74 10 місяців тому +4

    THIS is what I've been waiting for! I've been rocking a really nice Alienware IPS monitor for about 4 years now just waiting for OLED gaming monitor technology to mature to this point. I can't wait to try one out!!!!

  • @whoonga
    @whoonga 10 місяців тому +2

    The only thing that prevents me from buying one is the text quality. Apart from that they seem to be an amazing gaming/creative monitor

  • @SlowMtbRider
    @SlowMtbRider 10 місяців тому +10

    I can't wait for your reviews. I want a 360 or even 480hx oled 1440p monitor but :
    - I am still concerned by color fringing on text (LG vs Samsung panel comparison expected)
    - I am concerned by the absence of DP2.1 as those monitors should be "future proof"

    • @aagm.
      @aagm. 10 місяців тому +2

      What you want to look for there is subpixel layout, I believe monitors in Q2 and beyond will fix this by shuffling subpixels around e.g. RWGB (or something or other) to RGBW or whatever. Point is they address this later on in the year
      As for your second point, DP is still sufficient depending on your use case (console gamer?) and an argument about throughput is made e.g. 2.0 is perfectly sufficient, forget the exact details

    • @Gooseman2k2
      @Gooseman2k2 10 місяців тому +5

      dp 1.4 + dsc is perfectly capable of doing 480hz 1440p 10bit color without any perceptible difference...
      also... the latest 4090 does NOT have DP 2.1... so it would be useless anyways!
      the color fringing I agree tho...
      Also... the BIGGEST concern with Oleds is their real desktop usage brightness... which has been lacking.

    • @Jsanon00
      @Jsanon00 10 місяців тому

      There will be a gigabyte 240hz 4k oled and probably 360hz 1440p variant with dp2.1 if you really need it. Though it's not needed as dsc works fine

    • @stonie8629
      @stonie8629 10 місяців тому

      Aorus new OLEDs will have dp 2.1, not sure when they release tho

    • @nttinvis
      @nttinvis 10 місяців тому

      ​@redacted1776 i heard only the 4k one has dp2.1

  • @crackdofus
    @crackdofus 10 місяців тому +1

    When the price starts coming down on these OLED's I'll def buy one

  • @ColinZtmnf
    @ColinZtmnf 10 місяців тому +5

    Could you notice the difference in colours between the older WOLED and this new qd-oled? Apparently the qd-oleds produce much richer colours, especially reds and greens compared to other oleds. Although some people might call it oversaturated.

    • @sgredsch
      @sgredsch 10 місяців тому +1

      theres no oversaturation. theres just the outdated extremely limited CRT colorspace "sRGB" holding everyone back.

    • @Cons2911
      @Cons2911 10 місяців тому

      Unless you have both side by side, I’d say both are good

  • @jamesthomas9788
    @jamesthomas9788 10 місяців тому +1

    The new QD-OLEDs will be able to come curved or flat, matte or gloss with anti-reflective coating and even the inputs will change per model/brand on the 27" and 32", with some models even having Dolby Vision (Only the 32" it seems, and only some models). I'm looking at the HP Omen or the Gigabyte for the 32" as they have DisplayPort 2.1 (the Gigabyte having full DisplayPort 2.1), though the 32" are stuck at 240hz. The QD-OLED need a good anti-reflective coating because unlike the LG Panels, there is no polarizer. To be honest, I was hoping the panels this year would have Phosphorescent Blue OLEDs, which would allow them to be brighter and run longer with more stability, but it looks like they're not ready for this year.

  • @Hybred
    @Hybred 10 місяців тому +4

    I'd put "QD-OLED" in the title over just "OLED"
    Other than that good video!

  • @RealLordShaxx
    @RealLordShaxx 10 місяців тому +1

    The dual mode 32in 4k 240hz/ 1080p 480hz is going to be my top pick.

  • @astrea555
    @astrea555 10 місяців тому +5

    For anyone who dream to play.. Overwatch 2, at 360fps. All 3 of them.

    • @hobosnake1
      @hobosnake1 Місяць тому

      Plenty of people still playing overwatch. They just don't comment, because usually people only want to comment when things are negative. It's like how every comment ever swears that World of Warcraft is dead. Meanwhile, Microsoft just confirmed that WoW has 8 million players still. The game is growing, yet you would think it's irredeemable/bad/dead if you just look at the discourse.
      Not defending blizzard here. Just saying, maybe your pointless ow2 comment makes no sense? I mean, you're watching an example of a player of OW2 in this video lol.

  • @angeldeschain0
    @angeldeschain0 10 місяців тому

    I love pc gaming… I can’t get enough of it; monitors are the cherry on top.

  • @PaavoZ
    @PaavoZ 10 місяців тому +3

    Yo @optimum! Now that CS2 has been out for a while, would you be interested in making a video about the best settings for minimun input lag? Things to investigate for example are nvidia reflex, different fps limits vs unlimited, resolutions, ”pro/competitive settings” vs everything maxed etc. I would like to hear your take on the matter, thanks!

  • @ColeCaccamise
    @ColeCaccamise 10 місяців тому +1

    This looks super good, great content as always brother

  • @willfullyinformed
    @willfullyinformed 10 місяців тому +3

    It's awesome to see OLED tech climbing so fast, and glossy coatings. Once we start getting into the 40+ inch sizing, and 4k, count me in. Loving my 42" LG C2, no way am I going back in size or resolution, I'm spoiled now after a year. 4090 can run these settings at 220+ frames now in some of the worst optimized games, even on BF2042, so we are definitely there performance wise.

  • @purujeet2295
    @purujeet2295 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey optimum,
    As the new year has begun im looking forward to you rating our setups again,
    All of the setup reviews are both really entertaining and informative and we would love to have your expertised opinion on our clean and messy setups 😊😊

  • @christopherlafreniere7141
    @christopherlafreniere7141 10 місяців тому +3

    I just ordered the Dell Alienware AW2725DF using this same panel. Hopefully it's a good one.

    • @andrewmorris3479
      @andrewmorris3479 10 місяців тому

      Oh it will be. The factory calibration on the AW2725DF is insane! That’s the main advantage over the MSI but the passive cooling solution is MSI’s advantage.

    • @christopherlafreniere7141
      @christopherlafreniere7141 10 місяців тому

      @@andrewmorris3479Oh crud, does the Alienware not have passive cooling? I'm not a fan of fans!

    • @christopherlafreniere7141
      @christopherlafreniere7141 10 місяців тому +1

      It has active cooling based on the onscreen menu, you can test it. I can't hear it though so all good.

    • @kanontf2
      @kanontf2 8 місяців тому

      do you like it

    • @christopherlafreniere7141
      @christopherlafreniere7141 8 місяців тому

      @@kanontf2 Best monitor that I ever owned. I did return it after 3 weeks though. When I would play Warzone in HDR I would suffer from what felt like car sickness. I would just start feeling dizzy. I tried sync / no sync, loweing the Hz doqn etc.. but I just kept feeling sick. I switched back to my 170hz IPS and I stopped feeling sick . Maybe OLED wasn't for me. IPS looks like crap after using OLED though... But I like not feeling sick more.

  • @aagm.
    @aagm. 10 місяців тому +1

    Just copped the ASUS PG27AQDM for 713 USD knowing full well there's a lot of good stuff on the horizon. Weaknesses expected (still shipping): text clarity (subpixel format), poor HD performance (mitigated by firmware updates), HDMI 2.0 (less of a concern, not a console gamer), some ambiguity about burn-in management, and matte vs glossy considerations (which is touched on briefly in this video as being less relevant)

  • @GamerYogi.
    @GamerYogi. 10 місяців тому +3

    Your videos are informative ❤

  • @mossie125
    @mossie125 10 місяців тому

    Letssss gooo. Can't wait for all of these insane monitors coming out! I hope they are available in South Africa soon.

  • @dec35
    @dec35 10 місяців тому +5

    I'd love to see a cheap but good oled monitor round up video this year, couldn't see myself justifying a 480hz screen when all I do is casual valorant... But I really do like oled and would like to get the most bang for my buck

  • @Keivz
    @Keivz 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for stopping the fomo on the matte vs glossy debate. I'll stick with my woled monitor from last year and enjoy true black day and night.

  • @nix2610
    @nix2610 10 місяців тому +7

    damn 360hz and oled gotta be something else

  • @doasitellyouu
    @doasitellyouu 9 місяців тому

    People always say that there isn't much of a difference between 360hz and 240hz but I think it depends on the person's perception sensitivity, because I personally cannot go back. The same thing would happen back then when I upgraded from a 60hz to a mere 75hz, even though it seems like such a small jump it felt extremely significant. I get that as the number increases there are diminishing returns, but I have yet to personally feel any of that yet, I suppose that's only when we get to more insane refresh rates.

  • @SugarFreeTargets
    @SugarFreeTargets 10 місяців тому +7

    The greatest thing about these insanely high refresh rate OLED displays is we're going to see 120hz OLED displays be marketed and sold at an affordable price next year.

  • @BaBaNaNaBa
    @BaBaNaNaBa 10 місяців тому +1

    I've bought the 240hz oled from LG after CES 2023, now waiting for 240hz 4k 27'' OLED (with dp 2.1, UHBR20) before I will upgrade again. ✌️

  • @andrewgreen8383
    @andrewgreen8383 10 місяців тому +7

    I got the LG Oled monitor you previously reviewed about two months ago now and I have to say I’m honestly upset with how bad the pixel burn in is near the center of the screen already. I’ve used the pixel cleaning features quit a bit as well, it sucks how quickly it dies out for how expensive it is.

    • @AlmightyEye
      @AlmightyEye 10 місяців тому +3

      That’s why u should NEVER buy ANY product based on a UA-cam channel’s recommendation. These guys get sent free stuff and get paid 5, sometimes 6 figure checks to shill products on their channel. Even when you think they’re being “transparent”, they’ll never rate any product in a negative light if they’re getting paid for it. It’s better to wait for the product to release and get real-world opinions from actual users and not just people on UA-cam.

    • @andrewgreen8383
      @andrewgreen8383 10 місяців тому

      @@AlmightyEye You’re not wrong. I at least thought Optimum was one of the better tech reviewers

    • @emiel255
      @emiel255 10 місяців тому

      This is one of the main reasons, I will never buy an OLED monitor. I don’t want to pay a premium price and then having to worry about it when using it like a normal PC monitor. For example, many people use their PC for desktop usage or leave their PC on for many hours and that’s gonna be a problem with OLED. to me, it’s like having a sports car but you gotta be wary of not revving up otherwise it might break
      I hope you will get that burn in sorted soon man!

    • @worldofz00
      @worldofz00 10 місяців тому

      @@andrewgreen8383LG 27” OLED? Guess I don’t have any burn in or such, but did you get it from BestBuy with a 4 year Geek Squad plan?

    • @Rusterstusterer
      @Rusterstusterer 10 місяців тому +2

      I have had the same monitor but only for about a month so this is quite worrying to hear. The other thing that bothers me in this video is that he says there's virtually no difference between the matte and glossy coating when in reality the matte coating has quite a horrible grainy look on white or near white images that I'm sure moving to glossy would solve. Bit of a hit to his recommendations for me unfortunately.
      Also, no reviewers seem to say/care much about just how bad the dirty screen effect is on darker grey images. I had to return my first one because it was disgusting. Even my second monitor was only acceptable after running a compensation cycle.

  • @TheCuttz1984
    @TheCuttz1984 10 місяців тому +1

    I wish they would make them 24.5 inch. I feel that is my sweet spot for gaming.

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905
    @zaidlacksalastname4905 10 місяців тому +3

    I wonder how long it'll take for ultrawide oleds to go down in price. Would be sick if they dropped to ~500 or something like that in the next year or two

  • @Alien_Alec
    @Alien_Alec 10 місяців тому +1

    2 Big Oled complaints from me
    1 Gysnc gamma flicker - solved by not using gsync which you can turn off on a per game basis. Some games are worse than others
    2 HDR - HDR seems cool at first until you notice that there's always something off about the image. PC HDR is a mess and there's a deep rabbit hole to go down using tools like reshade lilium and special k just to fix HDR. A channel called "plasma tv for gaming" goes into the issues and how to fix them. But that's the point, it's not something that will just work perfectly so don't buy an oled assuming hdr gaming will just work and be so cool out of the box.
    Even considering those two things AND the text clarity issue, I still absolutely love my asus 240 oled. All genre of games and even coding are fantastic on it. I'll never go back.

  • @Gershy13
    @Gershy13 10 місяців тому +3

    They need to make more 24" monitors

    • @manicniceguy2341
      @manicniceguy2341 10 місяців тому

      I thought I wasn't able to use a 27 inch OLED but when I got it I adjusted to it it's alot easier on the eyes than my various 24 inch LCD panels I owned.

    • @Gershy13
      @Gershy13 10 місяців тому

      @@manicniceguy2341 I'd love to get 27", but the issue for me is desk space, I run triple monitors, and with speakers on the desk too I doubt I'd be able to fit 3 27" monitors comfortably. With 3 24" my speakers are slightly hanging off the desk.

    • @Cuthalu
      @Cuthalu 10 місяців тому

      Let 24" die. It's the new 17".

  • @kevinn8949
    @kevinn8949 10 місяців тому +1

    Just want to add the upcoming 480hz W-OLED monitors are going to come with BFI(black frame insertion) technology as well(at least on the ASUS models).

  • @RudeCanine
    @RudeCanine 10 місяців тому +5

    I am not paying more than $400 for a monitor, that’s ridiculous

    • @FLuXRioT
      @FLuXRioT 10 місяців тому +1

      Had to search too long for this comment. 🙄

    • @5ean5ean22
      @5ean5ean22 10 місяців тому

      Ok

    • @alexmaldonado2804
      @alexmaldonado2804 5 місяців тому

      This is quite literally top of the line quality, what did you expect

  • @Prodrummer1603
    @Prodrummer1603 10 місяців тому +1

    Overall I'm really interested in these 360 Hz-QD-Oled-Monitors (Alienware or MSI). But these raised blacks concern me a little bit.

  • @Hirnlego999
    @Hirnlego999 10 місяців тому +3

    I'd jump on OLED instantly if it wasn't for burn-in problems, they still sadly exist with this technology

    • @Tricendo
      @Tricendo 10 місяців тому +4

      ? Lame excuse for not being able to afford one lol

    • @vrsce0178
      @vrsce0178 10 місяців тому

      Never had a burn in.

    • @matthewrezuke8130
      @matthewrezuke8130 10 місяців тому +1

      Oled burn in barely happens… use the built in care features and it’s fine! I’ve had my oled tv for years with daily use. Zero burn in.. clueless people

    • @Hirnlego999
      @Hirnlego999 10 місяців тому

      @@Tricendo "? Lame excuse for not being able to afford one lol"
      They're not expensive, and how stupid some of you look trying to make this about money. The technology has obvious downsides which will create problems to many of its users.
      This is why MicroLED will be the ultimate answer
      Sony doesn't even make its 2024 flagship TV an OLED btw

    • @Tricendo
      @Tricendo 10 місяців тому +1

      @Hirnlego999 sony panels has always been dogshit samsung and lg has always pushed the boundaries and been innovative for the past 2 decades. Burn in isn't a problem for these monitors. also u get 2 year warranty if that does magically happen. So yeah it is about money for you. Ppl make products seem bad and heavily flawed when they haven't even tried it. So why speak on it. LOL

  • @John-t5q4h
    @John-t5q4h 10 місяців тому +1

    Dp 2.1, gen 3 oled panel and dolby hdr vision + glossy are my must haves

  • @Lonestar_GER
    @Lonestar_GER 10 місяців тому

    Using a single monitor setup for both work and gaming, the crappy sub pixel layout is an absolute show stopper for my use-case.
    Very happy to hear that this still hasn't changed on the new models (and maybe never will as it's an OLED thing?) so I don't need to fomo into them and can happily continue using my AQN as the jack of all trades that it truly is.

    • @notenot77
      @notenot77 10 місяців тому

      Yes, the text problem remains but on the new 4k 240hz monitors the text situation is much better and that's why I'm sitting here thinking whether to get the AQN or the new 4k oled, because text quality is important to me too (a lot of work on pc).

  • @genocidehero9687
    @genocidehero9687 10 місяців тому +1

    Bruh idek how i found you you just came out of nowhere into my feed with fire. I think its high time i subscribe

  • @MicPrime
    @MicPrime 9 місяців тому +2

    I have 27gr95qe for few days and i love it.

  • @PvMLad
    @PvMLad 10 місяців тому

    The weird subpixel layout and strong text chromatic aberration is a deal breaker for me. Actually the lack of true blacks in bright environments from QD-OLED is a deal breaker. Thanks for highlighting the flaws in the panel tech.
    Why can't they make a desktop AMOLED monitor? Our amoled phone screens are nigh on perfect, just scale that up to desktop size.

  • @blees1ng
    @blees1ng 10 місяців тому +2

    damn your name looks clean af after changed... so unique and cool bro... (I know your vids are goated like usual so I'll be watching now xD)

  • @eugineugin8244
    @eugineugin8244 10 місяців тому +1

    2:28 240hz looks better and cryspier to me and it has less ghosting , so just use 240hz with this monitor coz it works better with it , i think this panel not supposed to work at 360 but they pushed it to its limits :)

  • @aeon7748
    @aeon7748 10 місяців тому

    I'm using a 32" 240Hz G7. hard to go back to 27" no matter how good it looks, it's essentially a medium size monitor vs miniature TV for consuming content and gaming, all while having 240Hz since years ago while people were playing with 27" IPS 165Hz and complaining this whole time.

  • @Ι.Κουμ
    @Ι.Κουμ 10 місяців тому +1

    Im thinking between getting an Asus TUF VG249QM1A(256€), a Dell G2524H(261€), and a Philips 25M2N5200P(280€). Which one is the best and why? Amazing video as always btw

  • @Ares_XO
    @Ares_XO 6 місяців тому

    i wish we could get a 1080p 480hz 24 inches oled panel, just for the competitiveness on fps games and the greatness of colors of OLEDs

  • @roykent2316
    @roykent2316 10 місяців тому +1

    me, still on a 1080p 60Hz monitor 🥲
    cool to see how far tech has come tho!

  • @tommo464
    @tommo464 10 місяців тому

    the Halo-esque sound in this was nice

  • @cheater00
    @cheater00 10 місяців тому +1

    I have to take offense at the widely spread myth if oleds having "infinite" contrast. First off, the glass in front of an oled has refraction and bloom. So if you have a pixel that emits photons, and right next to it one that's off, that off pixel will still be a little brighter due to spill from its neighbor. Second off, even if the glass is glossy, the back of it - where the pixels are, even off - is going to reflect some light. This is much, much worse wuth QDOLED which phosphoresces in normal daylight conditions, even under indoor lighting only. Even if the whole screen is off, a QDOLED standing in a normally lit room will not be perfectly black, it's going to be a very dark tinge of magenta. While you mention this later on, WOLEDs have the same issue to a much lesser extent: nothing absorbs 100% of the light shining on it.
    Please, do make measurements about this and talk about them rather than talk about "infinite contrast". You do good reporting but this is a major slip up that you need to do better at.

  • @goblinphreak2132
    @goblinphreak2132 10 місяців тому

    Over 6000 hours on my aw3423dw and i have ZERO burn in. I turn it off daily which auto runs the light refresh. And when it asks for the big refresh when im not in the middle of something important, i let it. And yeah, no burn in. Many hours in world of warcraft. Many hours in windows having movie/tv streaming left side and windowed game right side. Which is more common. And ZERO burn in.
    BFI on the Asus OLED may be epic, but only if we get full refresh rate BFI....

  • @maozedowner5915
    @maozedowner5915 10 місяців тому +1

    Let's see if there's any 240hz 2nd hand monitors available for cheap. That'll be my upgrade path.

  • @trevorbarney1796
    @trevorbarney1796 10 місяців тому +1

    3:37 this is why I love this channel. He challenges the rules and goes against what the manufacturers tell him to do, if it doesn't make sense.

  • @DudeWhot
    @DudeWhot 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm so excited when a new video comes out, your videos are top quality man

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 10 місяців тому

    This will be the best year to get a monitor since Freesync and Gsync was introduced.

  • @exscape
    @exscape 10 місяців тому +2

    5:50 The reason QD-OLED has those raised black in bright environment is because the light can enter the monitor and interact with the quantum dots.
    TFTCentral has a great article about this, testing how big the effect is and whether it matters or not, titled "The OLED Black Depth Lie - When Panel Type and Coating Matters".
    Short version is that QD-OLED is typically better than all LCD types including VA, but in bright rooms, VA can have deeper blacks than QD-OLED. But then again, if you want impactful blacks, you probably wouldn't sit in a bright room to begin with.

  • @joshuac9805
    @joshuac9805 10 місяців тому +1

    5:50 This! I went to microcenter to look at their QD options & was so surprised when I seen they all had greyed out blacks & a weird purple tint to them bc of the bright environment compared to W-OLED. Ended up leaving with the ASUS PG27AQDM instead. I know they have their own flaws, but at least it’s not picture quality.

    • @kiisseli1337
      @kiisseli1337 10 місяців тому

      QD OLED (at least gen 1) should be used without lights. For bright environments the benefit goes away.

  • @PahEz
    @PahEz 10 місяців тому +2

    Just need a glossy coating option for every oled that will be released in the future. It keeps me up at night knowing that there's premium oled monitors which cost well over a 1000 $ and they still use matte finish. Embarrassing

  • @Randomness662
    @Randomness662 10 місяців тому +1

    1440p -> 😐
    360hz -> 😐
    OLED -> 🤨
    Glossy -> 😱
    THIS is the monitor I've been waiting for, and I'm sick and tired of waiting for shady ahh Dough to deliver theirs

  • @pyrogaunt
    @pyrogaunt 10 місяців тому

    I think the best part about 360Hz OLEDs releasing is that the 240Hz panels might start to drop a bit more in price! Might be time for me to finally get an upgrade after a long, long time

  • @Duncan94
    @Duncan94 10 місяців тому +1

    The irony that we're now getting, what can only be described as, insane hardware at the same time gaming has well and truly hit a brick wall.

  • @impulsive7802
    @impulsive7802 10 місяців тому +1

    Another high quality optimum banger!