According to the official scorecard www.ifbbpro.com/results/2018-arnold-classic-usa-scorecards/ the judges had Cedric solidly ahead of Roelly for all three rounds... do you guys agree?
Roelly always gets the stick for being too blocky and not ripped enough. His biggest advantage, size, is his weakness too and the sole reason why he is in the top 6 but not top 3! The smaller, well defined body builders steal the show and walk away with the trophy. Cedric vs Roelly? Roelly all the way, Cedric is tall so muscles are not distributed completely and there were a few areas which was not upto standards this year. He did have the advantage of previous year win so judges used that and placed him higher. Next year, Roelly should drop a few pounds, do some vacuum poses and guaranteed that he will be in top 3 if not win.
When you said “I admit, I was wrong” Roelly raises his hand up to his ear as to indicate that he wanted to hear you say that again. The timing was perfect 😂
Matthias Botthof, an ex ifbb pro who is working for a new german youtube channel, recently just said that he was sitting live very close to the judges on the arnold classics and had a very good view on every athlete. He mentioned that pictures don't do it justice in Roelly's case and that he looked much sharper in real life.
Hey man, just found your channel; great reviews. If any of these guys expect to stop Phil Heath from getting win number 8 at the Olympia, they are ALL going to have to step up their game. This is such a tough sport; one day they are spot on, the next day they are having bloat issues, lagging part issues, symmetry issues, conditioning issues, you name it. I hate to say it buy sometimes I have to ask, "Where is the desire to win decisively." In other words, "How bad do you really want it?"
Cedric has mad potential, but honestly he hasn't come in looking very good ever. I don't think I have ever seen him shredded. He places high because of his aesthetic frame, height and likeable attitude. I hope he brings his A game one day and takes the Olympia. His likeable character would make him a great front man for the sport.
Great video Tomn8er. For a second there I thought you were going to end the video without your classic "I'll be back" because at the 5:02 mark there was a bit of silence, lol.
Well here's hoping you wing out some more videos soon because honestly all these uploads recently are just fantastic! I can clearly say I look forward to your new videos more than Nick's, Lui's, and a few other channels. Thanks again man for all that you do. :)
Roelly's gut is significantly smaller, but he needs to work on his abs more. when you stand next to the likes of Liones Bayeke, the blade, you NEED diced abs.Cedric has this sweet sweep starting from the back of his head all the way down to his lower lat insertion. Aesthetic.
you can not see on video what the judges see in person. 2 d medium, different angle, different distance. but roelly faded during the judging and the finals. if he brought it like he did in australia it would have been a different story.
Dawg with all do respect you're blind and delusional. Roelly brought his best yet and Cedric came in softer than he usually does, whichis usually not very good to begin with. And then you said judges get it 90% right, have you ever heard of politics in this business, judges most certainly don't get it right 90% of the time. Roelly is like 5 places ahead or more on the Olympia stage. This was politics plain and simple because Cedric was defending champ he got 3rd, that's it. And when you said Dennis wolf looked bad after coming back from the injury he had, my god dude do you even realize how much progress he has made, to not even place dead last after a fucking spinal injury and losing everything is miraculous and impressive. I honestly disagree with about 90% of the stuff you say on this channel. Your analyses are so off it's insane. This is probably the 4th or 5th video in a row ive seen where I'm asking myself wtf are you talking about. Having said that, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so best of luck to you and your channel.
Things I like: proportions, condition, posing always under control. Things I dislike: arm dominance, thick waist, bloated stomach. BB I appreciate: Cedric (although he had some problems with his stomach too, this year). BBs I despise: the rest.
Cedri has the best physique of the entire line up. Cedric conditions was OFF according to the judges .. and according to me he's conditioning was above 90 percent a very healthy conditioning without harming his body. if Cedric is genetically better , has better symmetry, shape, and of course is posing is just artistic ... how can one just lose on being slightly ( judges opinion ) off in conditioning. The judges want you to take more heart failing drugs - pull all the electyroites out of your body. Cedric kills them all pose after pose and just hope Cedric ( u listening) that you bring it to the Australia.
why does roelly have such a terrible,in fact he doesnt even do a correct side tricep pose probably because of how wide his lats are that really pisses me off because its imo a very important pose like ronnie colemans crappy side tricep poses.
How is it not a correct side tricep pose? As far as i know Flex Wheeler pulled the same side tricep pose on stage and he's not really know for having wide lats.
Both hands need to be behind the back and one holding the other in one form or another,i don't care about your opinion on flex wheeler i'm talking about roelly winklar in this specific video he isn't doing a correct side tricep pose he's doing some form of a side chest without his arms being connected and the main hand straightened in order to show off the tricep but also misses out on showing the mid section as well as he would be IF it was a correct side tricep and part of the reason i think he isn't able to pull it off is due to the massive wide lats that probably make it hard for him to connect his hands behind his back.
How else would you do it from a UA-cam platform? Want me to go to the show and then describe it to you guys after the fact like "hey don't have any pics or video but check this I WAS THERE and trust me so and so won"... yeah alright
According to the official scorecard www.ifbbpro.com/results/2018-arnold-classic-usa-scorecards/ the judges had Cedric solidly ahead of Roelly for all three rounds... do you guys agree?
Tomn8er, nope I think Roelly should have beaten Cedric
Yeah, I definitely agree that Cedric was overall better than Roelly, but Roelly still looked pretty good. Great contest this year.
Don't agree at all. Roelly completely fucked him lol
Not at all . Roelly wins over Cedric
Roelly always gets the stick for being too blocky and not ripped enough. His biggest advantage, size, is his weakness too and the sole reason why he is in the top 6 but not top 3! The smaller, well defined body builders steal the show and walk away with the trophy.
Cedric vs Roelly? Roelly all the way, Cedric is tall so muscles are not distributed completely and there were a few areas which was not upto standards this year. He did have the advantage of previous year win so judges used that and placed him higher.
Next year, Roelly should drop a few pounds, do some vacuum poses and guaranteed that he will be in top 3 if not win.
When you said “I admit, I was wrong” Roelly raises his hand up to his ear as to indicate that he wanted to hear you say that again. The timing was perfect 😂
lol good catch didn't even notice that! Would've been even better had it been Cedric though
Matthias Botthof, an ex ifbb pro who is working for a new german youtube channel, recently just said that he was sitting live very close to the judges on the arnold classics and had a very good view on every athlete. He mentioned that pictures don't do it justice in Roelly's case and that he looked much sharper in real life.
Lionel has the best lines on any stage today. If he ever gets in shape he will clean house
Damn tomn8er upload beast. Just Quit your job and start entertaining us daily.. XD
My eyes drift to Beyeke, what a gifted BB.
Cedric did certanly not look sharper but what do i know
topnotch B fax
Hey man, just found your channel; great reviews. If any of these guys expect to stop Phil Heath from getting win number 8 at the Olympia, they are ALL going to have to step up their game. This is such a tough sport; one day they are spot on, the next day they are having bloat issues, lagging part issues, symmetry issues, conditioning issues, you name it. I hate to say it buy sometimes I have to ask, "Where is the desire to win decisively." In other words, "How bad do you really want it?"
lol a conditioned Lionel Beyeke would destroy this lineup
I agree
But he isn't conditioned
Cedric has mad potential, but honestly he hasn't come in looking very good ever. I don't think I have ever seen him shredded. He places high because of his aesthetic frame, height and likeable attitude. I hope he brings his A game one day and takes the Olympia. His likeable character would make him a great front man for the sport.
I know it's a video about roelly and Cedric but eyes just get drawn to Lionel, he's like a bigger Dexter, amazing flow to the physique
Great video Tomn8er. For a second there I thought you were going to end the video without your classic "I'll be back" because at the 5:02 mark there was a bit of silence, lol.
Nah just kinda ran out of things to say, straight winging this one lol
Well here's hoping you wing out some more videos soon because honestly all these uploads recently are just fantastic! I can clearly say I look forward to your new videos more than Nick's, Lui's, and a few other channels. Thanks again man for all that you do. :)
Just to sidetrack a bit..dexter really looked like he's struggling to stay on stage
I think he looked fine here. In prejudging he was struggling for real though
the overall quality of this field is great two thumbs up for big man bodybuilding good judging I think the top 5 is perfectly placed
Nostalgia
Roelly's gut is significantly smaller, but he needs to work on his abs more. when you stand next to the likes of Liones Bayeke, the blade, you NEED diced abs.Cedric has this sweet sweep starting from the back of his head all the way down to his lower lat insertion. Aesthetic.
Dexter has a weird gut tho
Damn Dexter! What happened to the mid-section?
Roely winklarr top 1
when is cedric going to win something big he is big and cut looks good don't know why they never give him the trophy
you can not see on video what the judges see in person. 2 d medium, different angle, different distance. but roelly faded during the judging and the finals. if he brought it like he did in australia it would have been a different story.
Dawg with all do respect you're blind and delusional. Roelly brought his best yet and Cedric came in softer than he usually does, whichis usually not very good to begin with. And then you said judges get it 90% right, have you ever heard of politics in this business, judges most certainly don't get it right 90% of the time. Roelly is like 5 places ahead or more on the Olympia stage. This was politics plain and simple because Cedric was defending champ he got 3rd, that's it. And when you said Dennis wolf looked bad after coming back from the injury he had, my god dude do you even realize how much progress he has made, to not even place dead last after a fucking spinal injury and losing everything is miraculous and impressive. I honestly disagree with about 90% of the stuff you say on this channel. Your analyses are so off it's insane. This is probably the 4th or 5th video in a row ive seen where I'm asking myself wtf are you talking about. Having said that, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so best of luck to you and your channel.
Roelly did not bring his best yet. How is he better here than when he beat both Dex and Bonac at the EVLS Prague show?
Thomas Zaslavsky exactly. He's arnold favorite, so now its about politics
Dontatrer if he coming back from an injury wolf need more time if he can even get back. Stop being butt hurt
Freezeframe @ 1:52...side bicep pose...definition, particularly the legs...the 1st place finisher looks proppah!!!
why cant roelly hit a traditional side tricep pose???
Cedric has the aesthetics but he comes softer at Olympia. Cedric has that aesthetics along with mass and proportion.
Things I like: proportions, condition, posing always under control.
Things I dislike: arm dominance, thick waist, bloated stomach.
BB I appreciate: Cedric (although he had some problems with his stomach too, this year).
BBs I despise: the rest.
Nicola La Serra bayeke is the winner her
Yeah, I was wrong. Bayeke was on spot!
cedric the black arnold
Nail on the head
Cedric needs to go back to Aceto and fucking listen to him.
Tom there are a handful of bodybuilders that suffer from being to big,there is such a thing.Markus Ruhl,Paul Dillett,suffered from it!
Roelly all day tho
I''ve been saying it for the longest time Bonac will give Phil Heath problems in the near future.
roelly side triceps pose is weird he should do it the comon way
Cedri has the best physique of the entire line up. Cedric conditions was OFF according to the judges .. and according to me he's conditioning was above 90 percent a very healthy conditioning without harming his body. if Cedric is genetically better , has better symmetry, shape, and of course is posing is just artistic ... how can one just lose on being slightly ( judges opinion ) off in conditioning. The judges want you to take more heart failing drugs - pull all the electyroites out of your body. Cedric kills them all pose after pose and just hope Cedric ( u listening) that you bring it to the Australia.
Roelly is best
winklar
why does roelly have such a terrible,in fact he doesnt even do a correct side tricep pose probably because of how wide his lats are that really pisses me off because its imo a very important pose like ronnie colemans crappy side tricep poses.
How is it not a correct side tricep pose? As far as i know Flex Wheeler pulled the same side tricep pose on stage and he's not really know for having wide lats.
Both hands need to be behind the back and one holding the other in one form or another,i don't care about your opinion on flex wheeler i'm talking about roelly winklar in this specific video he isn't doing a correct side tricep pose he's doing some form of a side chest without his arms being connected and the main hand straightened in order to show off the tricep but also misses out on showing the mid section as well as he would be IF it was a correct side tricep and part of the reason i think he isn't able to pull it off is due to the massive wide lats that probably make it hard for him to connect his hands behind his back.
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Thank you,but my opinion about the side tricep remains the same.
Not to be that guy but he looked bad compared to the other guys and I would even go as far as to say that kuclo should have placed above him
i think cedric got more got a then reolly
but then again Cedric looks better then all of these guys tho. More aesthetic.
The problem with Roelly's physique is simple: It's fugly
Roeĺly winklar the best body shape
Sitir lan
Roelly won Australia.
for me cedric has just one problem, doesnt have biceps
Ye early
Cedric low mass , small compared to rolly
He beat him by being sharper in the abs and back.
Sick of fucking people judging from watching it on tv. It looks 10000 Times different live.
How else would you do it from a UA-cam platform? Want me to go to the show and then describe it to you guys after the fact like "hey don't have any pics or video but check this I WAS THERE and trust me so and so won"... yeah alright