Ryzen 7 7700X Vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D [42 Game Benchmark | 1080p, 1440p & 4K]
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
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Hot off the heels of our last video, we are taking another look at the 5800X3D, but this time comparing it to a more price relevant CPU, the 7700X, to see how they compare and which one has the better value when we consider the cost of the whole system you'd need to use each processor.
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AMD Ryzen 5 7600X - locally.link/eSws [Amazon]
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X - locally.link/ISa0 [Amazon]
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - locally.link/huBL [Amazon]
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X - locally.link/Rg14 [Amazon]
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D - locally.link/FgkT [Amazon]
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - locally.link/2kXb [Amazon]
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D - locally.link/P0T9 [Amazon]
Intel Core i5 13600K - locally.link/SLG2 [Amazon]
Intel Core i7 13700K - locally.link/oLzw [Amazon]
Intel Core i9 13900K - locally.link/L72z [Amazon]
Intel Core i9 13900KS - locally.link/2ko8 [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3050 - locally.link/UqIf [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3060 - locally.link/QF0i [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - locally.link/fLzJ [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3070 - locally.link/9BaZ [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3070 Ti - locally.link/2kVN [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3080 10GB - locally.link/glRk [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3080 12GB - locally.link/Umea [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3080 Ti - locally.link/1Jbr [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3090 - locally.link/tXoe [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - locally.link/gvFc [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 4060 - locally.link/bTBe [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB - locally.link/igka [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB - locally.link/YLib [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti - locally.link/tY0n [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 4080 - locally.link/Tfk0 [Amazon]
GeForce RTX 4090 - locally.link/CIFN [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6500 XT - locally.link/xOUY [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6600 - locally.link/3g2E [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6600 XT - locally.link/obJ1 [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6700 - locally.link/UkDF [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6750 XT - locally.link/6riG [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6800 - locally.link/xX4I [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6800 XT - locally.link/UTZA [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6900 XT - locally.link/PkBx [Amazon]
Radeon RX 6950 XT - locally.link/1kzh [Amazon]
Radeon RX 7600 - locally.link/jcnv [Amazon]
Radeon RX 7700 XT - locally.link/HKQE [Amazon]
Radeon RX 7800 XT - locally.link/XG4B [Amazon]
Radeon RX 7900 XT - locally.link/MJZu [Amazon]
Radeon RX 7900 XTX - locally.link/BGGJ [Amazon]
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00:00 Introduction
00:43 Sponsor
01:37 The CPUs
03:44 How We Test
04:59 A Plague Tale: Requiem
05:30 Assassins Creed Valhalla
06:06 Baldur's Gate 3
06:34 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare II
07:12 Counter Strike 2
07:47 Cyberpunk 2077
08:44 Cyberpunk 2077 RT
09:34 F1 23
10:11 Far Cry 6
10:49 Hogwarts Legacy
11:25 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered
11:56 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered RT
12:24 Microsoft Flight Simulator
13:10 Remnant II
13:33 Watch Dogs Legion
14:08 Performance Analysis
14:38 Percentage Differences
15:37 1% Low Percentage Differences
16:18 Cost Per Frame
17:13 System Cost
17:38 5800X3D System Cost
17:50 7700X System Cost
18:08 Final Thoughts
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As long as my 5800x3d doesn't blow up, I'm likely to completely skip AM5.
Yep, I'm thinking Zen 7 will be AM5+/AM6. I'm just going to wait until then with my 5600x3d
@@JBrinx18unlikely no reason to upgrade socket still has unused pins,ddr5 going to be around for a good long bit and pcie5 having gobs more bandwidth to spare they will run this socket probably as long or longer than am4. The thing that will force a change would be power through top silicon. But would be nice if they got rid of that dumb thick heat spreader
Yes, I upgrade to 5800X3D cost £220
So I am also going to skip AM5. I hope to not have to think about it until Zen 6 or later.
For anyone on AM4 the 5800x3D is the way to go. You may have to Flash your Bos, then you're done.
Just remember to enter Q flash press END on some gigabyte mother board.
we’ll see. depends on how long am5 runs for and how much performance youre willing to sacrifice 3-4 years from now. the difference between a 7700k (roughly what was considered top of the line when am4 dropped) was outdated by the time the 3800x dropped. so you’re probably going to be itching for an upgrade by the time am5 is halfway through its life.
Who knows how cpu heavy tasks could get moving forward. We shall see
32gigs of ddr4 cl16 3600mhz is a lot cheaper than $140 but anyhow. The 5800x3d is a legendary cpu.
If you have 5800X3D you save a lot of money not getting AM5 platform. I am sure next year will be a lot cheaper to upgrade to Ryzen 9000 series and also better mature platform to go for.
I don't know where he sourced his parts from but it's only $80 and 6000 CL30 is $100.
I assume he’s not quoting US$ pricing
The simple choice should be, if you already have AM4, get the 5800X3D. If you're starting from scratch, get the 7700X.
That is the way.
Thanks fam
not realy. it all depends on your current rig. i for example oculd sell my high end mobo/ g.skill neo(with lifetime warranty that still costs today 200$), 5600x and AIO, for around 450. now chip in 280 that 5800x3d goes for and i got 700 for am5 build.....
no, if you're starting from scratch get the 7800x3d instead. at microcenter in the US, they have fantastic motherboard + ram + CPU bundle deals for under $500. it will last you much longer and get significantly more performance than the 7700x in games
@@nintendork07 7700x wins in work stations 7800x3d has better gaming value but for working and gaming the 7700x is a good option
Great stuff. Please add power usage for cpu during each game.
Another definitive video, thank you. It's amazing that you do it, but is there really much point to having 4K results with CPU comparison? Always seems almost identical due to being GPU limited. I also notice MSFS was not present on the final results list?
Interesting that when CPU bound the titles don't seem bothered with the different DDR memory. I'd have expected some to favour the larger bandwidth, and others the lower latency speeds.
Bro, are you filming this from Hardware Unboxed's workshop ???😆
ended up with a 5700x3d to hold me over with my next gpu upgrade and the earliest I upgrade would be zen 6 or later.
Overall, it seems primary thread ipc and clock speed followed by cache helps gaming the most while number of cores is a distant third factor.
When the 5800x3d goes on sale, it starts to become the clear choice if already on am4 as it was recently going for as low as $240.
For new builds, I would opt for am5
What did you upgraded from? The 5700X3D is super cheap at $190. I just ordered a 5600 and can't wait to swap out my 1700.
5800X3D should be at most £250, if the 5700X3D is £219 on Amazon. Hopefully more price cuts ahead. Thanks for the content.
Upgraded from a 1600 AF to a 5800X3D. It's great!
I think the takeaway is that if you are building a new system, going AM5 makes sense, but if you are going from like a Ryzen 7 2700x or a Ryzen 5 3600, you can still get a lot of use out of your current components for $340 for a Ryzen 7 5800X3D or $250 for a Ryzen 7 5700X3D/5600X3D. Which is why AM4 has been so amazing.
A different wrinkle for me is that I run iTX and while the CPU/RAM prices trade blows, getting an AM5 iTX board is much more expensive than a decent AM4 board. I'm not sure I'd buy AM4 if I was doing a new build though since I expect AM5 to support future upgrades so the extra cost would be worthwhile.
I've been back and forth on this for quite some time now. The 5800x3d is up to around 300 USD again currently and the 7700x is actually on sale for less. At this point its getting late for rolling another 300 into an AM4 system IMO. May as well put that money away for your next platform change. 300 plus selling your AM4 build makes for a better PC for similar money out of pocket presently.
exactly. smart thinking....
Any chance changing mw2 benchmark to purely warzone testing ? basic benchmark of the standalone game ain't cpu demanding enough.
Will take it on board. Does warzone have a benchmark? If not, multiplayer only games are hard to replicate results.
WZ benchmark would be tough but it is way more CPU intensive. I believe I saw a benchmark where the 5800x3d is 7% faster than the 7700X in WZ due to the large pool of 3d Cache
7700X for a new PC, 5800X3D for current PC
Probably shouldn't test MW2 on ultra settings for CPU benchmarks because you become GPU bottlenecked at 1440p and 4k. Can't tell the difference of the CPUs at 1440p which is a very popular resolution and most fps players game on basic or low settings to get more performance. Just my 2 cents. Love the content! Thank you!
I went with the Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T CPU for my 64GB DDR5 1440p gaming & productivity build. Works great, & runs cool & power-efficiently.
I have the same and live near microcenter so got a bundle to save some when it first was released. I use HWinfo64 and it averages about 60w and that's not even in ECO mode. The 7800x3d doesn't seem worth it nor the others of this gen, not all games can utilize it and i'll play in 4k. It will be interesting to see what ryzen 8k cpu 3d chip does , but if this CPU still gets over 100fps who cares. Anyway , since you have the same chip would highly, highly recomend checking out "LASSO" program. It's free , watch a YT video on it. You can tell your games to stick to one CPU chiplet (0-11 or 12-23). I usually put it on the second chiplet (12-23) so there's no competition and it eliminates any "hitching" or "stutter" that comes with having the two 6 core processors.
Can you do more videos on the 5700x3d?
I don’t have one sadly. If we end up getting more Patreon members then I can look to buy products like that which we haven’t been sampled on.
Do this again, but with the 9700x vs 7800x3D.....I predict the results will be VERY similar to the 7700x vs 5800x3D, percentage-wise.
most likely for people with a 5800 3d wont be neccesary to upgrade till zen 5, maybe even zen 6 especially if those zen 6 work on AM5 wich would be perfect, by that point the diff in perf should be massive even if its the last purchase you can do on am5 it should last for so many years that you shouldnt even care.
It would cost me a lot more to go with the 7700X because I would have to buy a new motherboard and ram too.
I'll be upgrading my 5600X to a 5800X3D as soon as I can.
I did same upgrade, and totally worth it with my RTX 3060 Ti too. 😊
@@Breaky717 I would stick with the 5600X even though it's a very overclocker. it easily hits 3.85HHz without going above 70C but it's a bottleneck for the 7900GRE that I got five weeks ago.
@@Steve30x 5600X is a nice performer for its age, but 96MB L3 cache gives nice fps boost for Unreal Engine 4 based and some modern titles. I think 5800X3D can serve very well high tier RTX and RX cards too at 2560x1440.
@@Steve30x The 5700x was bottlenecking my 7900xt playing certain games. Upgrading to a 5800x3d definitely made a world of a difference.
I already commited to a 5800X3D and 32GB of 3600MHz, CL15 memory not too long ago. Motherboard's a bit cooked. But, I'm keeping the other parts until they're "minimum spec" for games I want.
I have a 5800x3D and a 4090 I am happy with it.
I have a 7800X3D and a 4090. I am happy with it.
$80 for a 32GB 3600 CL16 kit, 6000 CL30 RAM kit is $100. Also, you can easily build this all day long. Throw in a cheap $20 Thermalright cooler. Total: $408.98
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($180.00)
ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 ($98.99 @ Amazon)
From Newegg. We priced up the EXACT kits that we use. Different brands have different kits, and with different subtimings. If you can get cheaper at a sacrifice for performance, fill your boots.
I have an i7 9700k but recently bought a second-hand RTX 4090 so I'm CPU bound. Do I go with Intel 14th gen or AMD ( Ryzen 7 7800X3D) It's a gaming PC. I'm 53 now and not interested In being the latest UA-cam sensation.😛 I'm thinking of going to AMD. Any thoughts?
If you go intel you will also need to consider an aio to cool it as they are known to run hot. The 7800x3d is generally considered to be the best gaming cpu at the moment and is fine with an air cooler. Long as you're only gaming then go AMD
I hope that you went with the 7800X3D. It's much easier to cool. I'm talking about BTU/h and not temps. It peaks at under 80 watts under full load while 14th gens do ~300+ watts and 150w while gaming. I have a 7800X3D and a 4090 too so I'm talking from experience. I also came from a 9900k.
@@AshtonCoolman me too. The x3d is by far the best option. Im still on am4 so have the 5800x3d and its great
Should add Dragons Dogma 2 to the list as that game and a CPU benchmark monster as this game run bad on CPUs with less then 12 cores as in my testing with my 5950x its uses 12 of my 16 cores. and if I make the game use 8 cores it maxes out those cores so perfect test for CPU house power.
For me, the 7800X3D is so GOOD at gaming, it renders the 7700X pointless.
And if your budget doesn’t stretch to a 7800X3D, go for a 7600X
Guess what video is coming next week? 😜
@@eTeknix yeeeeee
@@eTeknixsave you some time 1-10% faster in gaming and 25-30% faster in multi core loads. Also the 7700x seems to clock mutch better with pbo2 on than the 7600x. It's clear the 7600x is lower end silicone it is about 30% less energy efficient than the 7700x. Maybe do stock vs pbo on and then run ryzen master and see what it can do to keep heat down.
Did exactly that. Next step will be 9000 what ever x3d. 😂
If you're on AM4, get the 5700X3D that's on sale right now for $230.
I think that the Ryzen 5 7600X is more fitting competitor to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D as their performance in productivity is also similar.
Can you please do a game benchmarks comparison with a 5700X3D ? @eteknix
Love how you guys are basically copying the HUB model.
Not an accusation, just that it's a good format.
Cheers and good luck!
i think he is shooting it in their lab too, tbh....
If you get the R5 7600 you still get the 32mb of L3 cache and all the benefits of zen4, so you don't loose much at all in most games by getting that instead of the 7700x, saving even more money.
I went with an R5 7600 and an XTX, with the cpu clocked at 5.2ghz 1.18v
The 7700 can be had for $180 USD and that's the sweet spot for gaming and overall usage with 8c/16t IMO. The 7600 at $160 doesn't make sense when the 7500f is $130.
@@itsatrap4986 here I can't get the 7500f and the 7700 costs 70% more than the 7600
Real value of AM4 lies in the used market if you are building a new PC. There are so many options widely available which make prices go down so much that you can get a good condition part for as much as half of the new price. Mobos, RAMs and even CPUs are usually safer to get used compared to GPUs so there isn't too much of a risk involved. Of course used market is widely depended to your region but with the availability of AM4 I'm sure you can find a very good deal in everywhere at this point.
Just to give some numbers, I just gathered up similar systems. Used AM4 5800x3D with B550 board and 32GB DDR4 cost only 66% of a new (similarly speced) Ryzen 7700 with B650 and 32GB DDR5 system. A new 7800x3D system cost more than double of it. Used market for AM5 also does exist but it's still very weak and meager. You can shave off maybe 10-15% off but it might not worth the risks and guarantee terms in big picture.
Of course, I would not advise to build a all new AM4 system right now. There is not much point in that. However if you can buy used, you should be able to upgrade your GPU to maybe 2 tiers higher. That is something you should consider in my opinion.
in other words, if you only have a 4070 or below and playing at 1080, it will cost you 1,000$ and you still couldnt notice a difference unless you are a professional player, when you are as lame as me, i woulnt notice anything less than a 25% uplift... i will work on getting GUD first...haha
The real question for most is am4 drop in upgrade or am5 new build. If I were to take the question seriously the AM4 build would be 5700x3d, b550 mb and 32gb ddr4 3200 for 400. Rtx 4090 should naturally lead you to the 7800x3d
If on am4 already there isnt much of a point in 7000 series for gaming right now unless you have money to burn on a 7800x3d. If coming from any pre 12th gen intel or older, AMD 7000 series is worth it. Pretty easy.
for the 75800x3d price the near parity discounted ryzen 9 5900x price is better, test it against both
i got 7700 none X but i have turned on curve optimizer and pbo and seems like i got pretty lucky in the lottery so i'm real happy with it.. however.. that 3d cache makes me hard.. 98oox3d here i come :D
5800x3d doesnt worth to build brand new anymore, 37$ more for more FPS ,new platform with more Single/multi-core performance and upgrade path.
Omg thank you so much for doing this video 4k benchmarks are important I will be upgrading from 1080p 240hz to 4k 160hz.... Got 5950x and 6800xt ...
AM4 still eating good I see.
I just started watching but why is it comparing the 5800x3d vs 7700 not the 7800x3d going talk about best for gaming
5800X3D Vs 7800X3D was actually our last video! ua-cam.com/video/nI9JwCoJyDA/v-deo.html
The 5800X3D has 96MB of cache, not 92.
ah yes, but next month(?) quarter(?) I can pop in a R7 9xxx into my AM5 board.. while mostlikely that AM4 board is topped out.
96MB cache actually.
I already forgot about Ryzen 7000 series with 5800X3D. I skip this series for sure truly pointless i wait for 9800X3D next year.
idk man the 7800x3d is very appealing
@@blizyon30fps86 just wait for 9800X3D
BTW, Ryzen 7 5800X3D is now $308 in the USA 🤣
I think anyone building a brand new computer should invest a bit more into AM5 due to upgradeability. AM4 while looks cheaper, you are stuck on a dead end platform with no upgrade. Unless you are already on AM4 and you can grab 5700X3D or 5800X3D, then it is well worth it. But building from scratch, AM5 makes the most sense. You can option for 7600/7600X which is cheaper and it performs like 2% slower than 7700X while having the exact same cost as 5800X3D new system.
Sure……..but the monster and well seasoned AM4 platform is now cheaper. This brings alot of others into an affordable gaming PC.
zen 3 x3d = zen 4 non x3d
We knew when 5800x3d launched that zen4 vanilla skus would be as fast or even loose out to 5800x3d. Then when zen4 launched AMD themselves pretended that 5800x3d did not exist.
We understood quite fast that if they did not lock down the 5800x3d it would kick the snot out of the zen4 vanilla cpus.
But what the Ming's are those ddr4 sticks? 16-16-16-39 or 16-20-20-41?
For going with am5 I would pick ASRock b650 hdv for 150 €, 6000c30 ram for 150€ and an 7800x3d or if u want to make the AM5 platform zen5 ready an cheap 7500f.
If u are going to get an am4 platform to squeeze out every drop of the perf u need b-die based ddr4 ram, and they are 200 to 300 € now, so not worth it at all.
What do you mean lock down the x3d chip? It's the same as the zen 4 x3d chips. If you let it run like non 3d chips they would be droping like 13th and 14th gen chips. The stacked ram Interposer can not take the heat.
@@mddunlap03 they could unlock the multi at least, it is totally locked down. I did tinker with bclk though.
@@mddunlap03 x3d is multiplier locked. The only means to "overclock" is through CO. The chips are very deliberately hobbled, and AMD claims it is due to power / thermal weaknesses in the design, but I am sceptical because Scattervolt did manage the overclock a 5800x3d well beyond stock, and it had no ill effects on the x3d chip.
Wait……but the 7700x requires a new motherboard and ram………soooooooo……..
We do talk about this at 17:13 and compare the price of all the parts you would need for each system
if you've already got AM4, then a 5800x3d/5700x3d/5600x3d are all fantastic upgrades for gaming.
if you're starting from scratch, go with a 7800x3d. bundles with mobo/ram/cpu are regularly under $480 (esp at microcenter in the USA). significantly better gaming performance than a 7700x and AM5 will last you much longer than AM4
5800x3D ⚰️ is even more than 20% much slower than 7700x, just check the 1% low 😭.
I got screwed should just went all in DDR5 😩.
What does it matter if you are getting great performance on the games you play? And if you play simulations and city builders, 7700x won't even come close to the x5800x3d performance.
@@zetrel 5800x3D = not cost effective. The matter is which one is best bang for buck. 7700x even with DDR5 is much better deal 🤝.