GPU Deshroud Mod - Mindblowing Thermal Improvement
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For those asking - of course the "stock" measurement was done after fixing the mounting fault.
Otherwise we'd have no idea how much of the thermal improvement was due to de-shrouding versus the tighter mounting.
The footage you see from 3:29 was when I first realized how bad the problem was - so I fixed it, installed the original shroud and fans, and re-tested it to give us the "stock" / before de-shrouding measurement.
Thanks! You should add some EU links too sometime! ;P
Keep up the good work love what you do around here! Cheers from Portugal!
U should do a vid about deshrouding rx 5700xt red dragon in ghost s1 + 2 new slim noctua fans (sterrox 120mm ones)
i am running gtx 970 so this doesn't help me much BUT i think i can get away with doing a mod like it but i'll lose my SLi set up.
Am running my rig longer then usual waiting to build a new PC but this may be a option when considering doing Some OC, i generally don't like to OC but having 2 cards & sli not being used much these days opens up possibilities.
THX dude !
please review the steck nouvolo, i really want a ghost s1 or a T1 but they are imposible to find.
I did this with my GTX 560Ti many years ago. On my current card there is a warranty sticker so I will do it when warranty ends.
No wonder results are solid when every GPU manufacturer blocks all the heatsink with plastic and RGB...
Also one of the selling points for which I chose strix version of 2080Ti was that extra fan headers.
But it's quite useless.
It's 4 pin yet has DC control and no way to change it, so if you have RGB fans you get them turned off, also they have quite crappy control logic, by default it's something where it's off until temperature reaches 60*C and it goes right to 100%
Theoretically you can change it in asus' GPU tweak software but it's garbage and it doesn't save profile on GPU, so if you restart the PC it goes away, even if you run the software on startup it still doesn't update those settings.
If you use shitty rgb fans for a deshroud mod you might as well not bother at all, though lmao
Arek R. Yeah, that’s why I just leave the GPU headers empty and control the fans under the GPU via motherboard. I use FanControl, very basic and doesn’t even have a startup at boot option, but it’s really intuitive and just works.
@@gabo007x1 I didn't deshroud it and I use blue led fans not RGB ones...
@@ivchatovyou need to make a desktop shortcut and put this shortcut into: win+R, type "shell: startup"
A 4 dBA *and* 20°C drop is immense, that's a great approach to making a whisper quiet system.
I did the same to my gpu after seeing the vid. Totally worth it. It's not only more silent by however many dB-s, but it's not the same noise eitger when it ramps up. The small fans had an annoying high pitched noise, but the modded fans sound low frequency pike a normal case fan.
I figured this video would be coming after the huge amount of de-shrouded systems in the last ITX systems showcase. Great work yet again, the quality of these videos never dissapoints.
Yes, I just modified my asus strix 2080ti in my ncase m1 after watching this video
After seeing this, I've started doubting whether waterblock is even necessary at all :D
They need to start selling GPU with just heat sinks with no fans, so we can use our own.
+ provide normal fan headers 🥰
Or with a socket for a AIO water cooler, like the NXZT G12, but covering the other components too.
Why don’t NZXT make their own graphics cards? They make their own Motherboards.
@@superbanana1784 Yes, but I used the pwm to mini pwm fan cable when I used my morpheus.
@@Neiva71 making a product does not factor the people who work the line, into its cost to make
Or one of them could just do this themselves? They'd get the fans much cheaper and let's face it, plenty of people will pay and extra $30 if they can get this kind of performance boost
GPU board partners really should be making a heatsink design that allows for customers to add their own fans. Similar to how the raijintek morpheus fans are attached.
or just partner with Noctua or Arctic and add some good fans to their design
@@illietw As if GPUs weren't epxensive enough already. Besides, if your airflow isn't complete ass and you buy a good model, temps and noise will be excellent. In my Inwin A1 I run two fans as intakes below my unmodded Strix 2070 Super and the GPU fans never turn on.
@@gabo007x1 I gues you never play anything?
Morpheus II still best upgrade ever ! 2GHz 1080ti 80C max (edit. under 1000rpm avg. 500 w/ noctua nf-a12 and low noise adapters)
If you are going through all the effort to buy an after market cooler for your GPU then why not get an AIO cooler?
I did something similar to a GTX 1080 Strix while I waited for replacement stock fans. I was amazed at how much better 2x120mm case fans were vs stock fans. Of course, cable ties were used.
I wish all manufacturer uses 120mm fan. They could get away with a thinner heatsinks. Imagine a GPU that makes universal brackets for us to change the fan to any fans we want.
Honestly I would love that. I'm running a PowerColor Red Dragon 5700XT and to keep the thermals in check (below 80C TJunc in my preference) I have a very aggressive fan curve meaning during games my GPU fans regularly reach 1800-2100rpm and can spike up to 2400. Fortunately I can have my PC a decent distance away, about 4 feet (~120cm), so the noise isn't terrible.
There a Fan Clips that work with most gpu´s, adding 120mm fans is pretty easy
Really can't believe you only have 342k subscribers, your production quality is insane and your videos are always great to watch. Plus, you're an Aussie not another American. Keep up the good work mate, you're one of the best tech youtubers I know of.
Now the last enemy in the mist: coil whine
Man I will never understand coil whine. Modern Warfare: fans spin up and system is overall a little louder than most games I play, but no whine. World of Warcraft: fans near silent, but piercing coil whine.
@@eSeniri it's because WoW is pushing higher framerates. Higher framerates, more coilwhine.
@@DJHEADPHONENINJA So wrong. I've had different games with the same high FPS, yet some of them produce way more coil whine. It cannot be explained.
Vega 56 owner: what whine?
I’m pretty sure it just directly correlates with how much wattage the card is using, could be wrong tho
I hope that board partners can release deshroud friendly design for the upcoming GPUs. I'd be trying this on some old GPUs I have around for the mean time. Thanks for the upload!
Dang going back and watching this, you've improved so much as a presenter. You seem far more confident in your more recent content. Here it's clear you weren't quite as comfortable. Your voice is actually different here too. Not that this was "bad", you've just become even better.
Ali, you should definitely do an SFF news series weekly or bi-weekly or even monthly. It would definitely be a good watch for beginners and enthusiasts alike.
Some adjustments to your video since I deshrouded my strix rx 5700xt myself:
-Asus uses a strange 7 pin sort of fan splitting header. The mini 4 pin you mention is for the rgb on the shroud. I tried to figure out which wires I needed to make a 4 pin pwm signal for the fans, but the fans wouldn't spin. You have to use the Asus software, but that doesn't allow much of an undervolt. I settled on argus monitor and put the fans on the AIO pump header on the mobo. Perfect solution!
- you HAVE to bend the tabs on the shroud and you have to bend them pretty far for certain fans in order to fit the fans and not get the tabs in the fan blades. Even if you do it carefully, you will damage the heatsink a bit and will probably void warranty if they need to take the shroud off.
I did the wiring on my 5700xt nitro+ with the help of this diagram imgur.com/jsaWdDj. Although he made some errors in the diagram.
I know it is 8 pin instead of 7 pin that you have, but maybe it helps you.
I would love to see the deshroud mod with other manufacturers like msi, zotac etc. and see a comparison. Been waiting for this video for a while, and thank you for the informative videos!
I did this with my Zotac 1080Ti mini, forever ago, by rewiring the existing fan connector to add in two 90mm Noctua fans. I also swapped the thermal paste for Grizzly Conductonaut. The card is SUPER quiet now, and still performs great!
''forever ago'' Are you a 15 year old girl? You type like one.
@@heroictesticles6870 Is that the best comment you can come up with, as a keyboard warrior? Grow up.
@@Pestilaence Appears to be you who needs to grow up with your ''forever'' comments. How's your hair this morning, sweetie?
@@heroictesticles6870 no need to insult someone for a miniscule thing
Lool the timing! I was just searching "how to gpu notcua mod" this morning for a possible NR200 bulid and now you upload this!
Is it possible to do this in a N200?
@@khorajin8320 I meant the NR200, ups fixed
AlmostGenius no Problem i mean the same ;) looking forward to build me an itx Gaming pc, dont want a custom loop, but this Solution were awesome
Khorajin also curious! Mine gets here Wednesday.
He's been on a roll with these lately for me. The double radiator and IceMan pump-res combo videos came out right as I was finishing the CPU side of my double rad build and the same day as my IceMan came in the mail.
love the noise level graphs compared to the temp graphs.... as someone very concious of noise this is very useful to see!
This is the kinda stuff I love, minimally evasive tinkering for sweet performance increases 😁
Minimally *invasive, not evasive.
If you use a dremel to remove those brackets *please* remove the cooler from the PCB before doing so, otherwise you'll risk cracking the die and killing your GPU!!!
I'd be more worried about metal shavings getting on the PCB and shorting something.
it's easier to just use a pipe wrench and bend them off.
@@BatteryAz1z My side cutters cut through those brackets like butter, quick snip and you're done.
@@alabaska182 I've even cut metal like that (to make a SSD mounting bay) with cheap kitchen chicken shears with great results, funnily enough. Started off using full-on angle-grinder then tried it and wished I had used them from the start.
@@PinataOblongata Lol yeah it doesn't take much that's for sure!
When do we get an Optimum Tech upper body workout? I think that's what the people really want
gaaaaayyyy...
@@kickazzdrummer666 Has it occurred to you that maybe he's just interested in Ali's routine so that he can make gains himself?
@@kickazzdrummer666 A little insecure are we? Good blood flow helps the brain and other extremities.
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@@kickazzdrummer666 MC Donald's, I'm loving it!
Did you test the original Strix after you changed the long screws to short screws? I feel like some of the improvement is coming from that alone.
Yes of course. The "Stock" measurement was after changing to the shorter screws.
@@optimumtech Way to think ahead! That’s awesome 👏
For the few who read this: You can totally use this in any case! You just need to either use zip ties or bent wire to secure the fans directly to the card.
Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but we’ll worth it in my opinion!
Looks like a great project for a 3D printer.
Other than virtually every sandwhich layout case I can think of but correct me if I'm wrong. For example, there's not enough space for a 25mm thick fan on a gpu in the Dan A4 from the looks of it.
You can also use things like PCIE slot fan bracket mounts and just mount it a slot below the card
I have done the same with my Gigabyte RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC,
worked wonders in terms of noise.
The original fans would always cycle on/off and the min fan speed was quite high.
The de-shrouding was very easy and no extra work was necessary.
I did this mod with my 5700xt
Do not expect much in case of temp reduction maybe 3 to 4 °c
But noise reduction was a huge improvement even with fans at 100% barely audible
This is an awesome mod, specially if you blew your budget or are just saving for watercooling. I would rather do this than to watercool!
I'm looking forward to part two of this video recommending cards for ncase m1 with deshroudimg in mind.
Keep it up the good work!!
This is hands down the best mod I have made in my computer. I deshrouded my 2080 ti, attached 2 noctua
NF-A12x25 with some steel wire and zip-ties, plugged them intop a motherboard fan header, bought a piece of software to control fans (Argus Monitor for 10 USD), so that I could make the fan curve correspond to GPU temperature, undervolted the GPU so I can run the fans at around 1000 RPM under load with temps at max 70 degrees C, and now my system is actually completely silent! (especially because I replaced every fan in my system with noctua
NF-A12x25 fans and my CPU cooler is the noctua NH-D15).
Great video! One suggestion : I would love to see text in the video, this way it would be way easier to identify which fan/cooler or which items we are looking at.
Very interesting. Thanks for doing the comparison with both the exhaust and intake config. I'm sure your other components appreciate you dumping the hot air right out of the case as well.
One thing I've always wanted to do was to duct the exhausts from the GPU out to the back of my case, but it's a little too cramped to do that at the mainboard. This seems like a much better idea.
Did you replace those screws before running the test with the shroud? if not that could play a big factor in the more extreme temp differences.
Yes of course.
Did the same 1 month ago with good results.
ASUS ROG Vega 64.
VRM has almost same problem, but fixed with a bigger thermal pad.
3 Fans removed together with the shroud and replaced with 2x 140mm Noctua fans.
Fans suspended with cable ties and long screws to the PSU shroud in a Fractal fullsize case.
Fan outputs also does not work because AMD driver and ASUS controlpanel software fights each other.
A GPU cooler mounting guide needs to be followed, and paste really needs a good amount to fix hotspot problems.
VRMs and hotspot was in the 100c area, GPU throttled down below advertised, ASUS quote: Working as intended.
VRM and hotspot is in the 80c max now and clocks are about 200MHz higher on core and the fan noise is maybe halved.
The Noctua GPU fans are controlled by CPU temp, so when the CPU temp is 10 degrees over idle the fans run at full speed, not ideal but works good enough, the temps can overshoot a couple of degrees before the temp stabilizes with the fan speed, but the temps are still more then 20c lower then stock anyway.
Was deshrouding my 285gtx long time ago and strap case fan with cable ties, excellent result.
I’ll try to do the same on my R9 390x
Entertaining and informative as always. Even when the topic doesn't remotely apply to me, the camera work alone is enough to make me watch.
I'd still like to know why GPUs don't just come with 2 120mm fans clipped onto the heatsink. Why do they always use weird proprietary fans?
Style points bro
Obviously because of case clearance issue. A graphics card with a 120mm fan would be too tall to fit inside most of the compact cases. If the graphics card used in this video came with a heat sink designed for 120mm fans, it would have never been able to fit inside this case. Any case that can't fit a 120mm CPU cooler won't be able to fit a graphics card with 120mm fans.
@@krazyfrog A triple slot GPU would already not fit in most compact cases, so your argument is mostly irrelevant. Having more flexibility in normal ATX and mATX cases would be better and cover most use cases.
Cost, manufacturing efficiency, and size constraints. But mostly cost. A half decent 120mm fan would likely cost 4-5x as much as they pay for those flimsy excuses for cooling fans. I mean I would gladly pay an extra ~$30-40 if a manufacturer actually adopted them but only time will tell. Why would they spend more on the fans when they can just slap a bigger heatsink on? My guess is the best you'll get is that it becomes easier to mount your own 120mm fans in the future.
Example: Have you seen the fans inside of the Mac Pro? Those are some ludicrously expensive fans in classic over-engineered apple fashion. They're there because the user base won't even bat an eye at the ~$150-200 spent on fans.
@@hughjazz44 I wasn't talking about the thickness of the card. I specifically mentioned height and also gave a CPU cooler as an example.
I watched you from the start...and I have to give you credit for evolving so beautifully..you are by far my favourite youtuber. Thank you for your humbleness and objectivity..keep it up. Greetings from Berlin
With this 5700 deshrouding would also allow for a BIOS mod, getting you on par with a 5700XT since the OC would still be in good temps
Just wanted to say that your previous video with the NCase M1 + Accelero III mod helped my M1 build's thermals massively! Came back to check up on your channel and your improvements in the last 2 years with video quality and testing details is amazing. Subbed and looking forward to watching your channel grow. Much love from a fellow Aussie.
I assume this would work in the Cooler Master nr200, if so, I'm definitely gonna use this trick in my next build
If he still has it on hand I'd acrually like him test it
i see
@@Erksah68 me too
Interested too tho thinking there might be too much clearance between gpu and fans since I have a 2.1 slot, if not then would use an Accelero Xtreme
That's my plan. 2.7slot Asus card and 2 artic a12 pwms at the bottom.
just deshrouded my ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER OC Evo in my Ncase M1 and it works like a charm. I was a bit worried that it wouldn't fit as the Evo is 56mm thick and the Strix is 54mm. Its a thight fit, with a bit of upward bend but it fits!
I only have one Mini-PWM to PWM adapter and the "right fan" is not connected. I use a PWM splitter conecting both NF-A12's to the GPU to the "left fan" of the GPU. Ampere-wise it should be fine, the Noctua uses only 0.14A (combined 0.28A), while the stock fans use 0.35A each. Still have them set to Intake though (was too afraid to bend the clips on the FAN mounting....) and have the Dust filter mounted. 0-RPM does also work!
Temps are fine and noise is lower. But not as much as I would have thought. Fans are not spinning below 55°C, so 0-RPM works fine. Will think about Undervolting and perhaps using fixed fan speeds.
Well of course it's good, it's turning it into a 4-slot cooler. :^U
But yeah, definitely going to try this in my next build. Now if only there was a place where people could share which cards need minimal work to make this work.
Or we can ask the board partners to provide DIY variants with thicc, flat heatsinks.
I've just deshrouded my rog strix 2060 super after snapping a blade in the original even with not so great 120mm fans the noise levels have dropped so low. Such a good mod.
I do this with my NCASE M1 v6.1, Strix 1080 Ti and NF-A12x25's. Works fantastic. My concern is when I want to upgrade my GPU to one of the new ones coming out, making sure I can find one that I can do the same thing with.
I have a 2080 Ti STRIX. How can I make sure my 4 pin connectors work?
Holy shot. That’s massive. Why didn’t any other tech channel tried this configuration before ?
Because most of his improvement probably came from the shorter screws.
Case and card compatibility is very limited, as mentioned in the video. You probably also need to touch up the fan brackets on the cards and might render it not possible to properly reattach the original GPU fans and shroud.
@@FuburLuck Actually most of the improvement comes from being able to directly vent the hot air out of the case, without it recirculating inside. The Accelero and Morpheus proved chunky heatsinks with good vents improve thermals. What they lack is the ability to vent the hot air out of the case, which means at least some of the hot air is recirculating in the case.
I think GPU thermals are more limited by SFF cases. Most other channels focus on mainstream mid tower or larger ITX cases, which don't have as many issues with restricted airflow to the GPU. This channel is one of the few that is enthusiast SFFPC focused.
Since I installed an accelero III on my 5700xt mech, I wish I could buy my next GPU card bare and on the cheap instead of paying for noisy and bad stock cooling solutions (that I will be swapping anyway)
Great vid tho m8
@Max.Sc. Yeah, I don't know why he bought the MSI when he's replacing it.
@Max.Sc. blower coolers does not comes cheap to produce : case, vapor chamber, fan,... All I ask is a bare pcb with the chips :P
@@brenlouissurio2404 it was a cheap (320usd) refurbished GPU. I thought that the bad cooler was fixable with thermal grizzly pads but oh boy I was wrong... the thing is as doomed as noisy and hot
@@brenlouissurio2404 hmm ' cause he bought the bad msi card. Gaming x is great
@Max.Sc. Blower will not work with this mod as it pushes air through the heatstink outside of the case (top of the heatsink is sealed off). You need axial style card.
In some cases, deshrouding is useful even when GPU is mounted normally, not like this setup in NCase. For example, it's popular on high power Zotac Mini cards like the 1080 and 1080Ti in SFF systems. Those cards are nice but noisy, due to smaller cooler and crappy fans. People have dealt with that by stripping the shroud and fans and simply strapping 2 Noctua fans with zip ties. It's also possible to flash the stock BIOS with the one from EVGA 1080Tis with 0-RPM mode or better Zotac models and you get a very silent mini beast with better temps, better fan curve and zero RPM fans.
You can basically do the same with any card that's powerhungry but has crappy cooler and/or fans. Strip it, strap on the better fans, connect them to the GPU with appropriate adapter and you're done.
I like your new channel logo. The one before was a jumbled mess.
Its still bad. I have no idea what it is... a box filled with water?
@@Numeriwar A minecraft chest in two colours. I'm not kidding btw.
yeh it seriously wasnt optimum
@@Numeriwar "i don't understand it so it's bad and a mess" You guys are something else, calling you idiots might be too good for you all.
I'm a new subscriber to the channel and i absolutely love the production quality of your videos man! I'm thinking about building my first PC as i feel inspired by your videos. Keep up the great work!
Omg so basically gpu board partners are screwing us over 🤣
no, they just aren't fan experts and currently refrain from building 4+ slot cooler designs, which this is.
@@t4iga121 if you're doing design work on thermal solutions for silicon components you most assuredly are a "fan expert," in the professional sense. Modeling Air flow through such a system is a pretty basic engineering task that any junior level mechanical engineering student could undertake. All this is to say that, yes, the only reason the thermals on your gpu are lackluster and the noise is too high is because the engineers working on them are operating within market parameters defined by what the consumer will put up with, not what provides the best absolute performance.
@@t4iga121 This mostly comes down to marketing. People demand fancy shrouds, lights and pretty shit, not going past the 3 slot height makes it more compatible with every case. Plus, if the thing still achieves the right FPS, they ensure the sale regardless of whether the cooling design is optimal or not.
Ideal PC would have a horizontal layout to avoid piling up heat sources and major components would have tower-like heatsinks on top (pretty much like CPU cooling).
@@lucastonoli3256 much like the original desktop cases/layout design or the abandoned BTX form factor by Intel.
But it leaves a lot of potential for creativity and imagination to play around with.
If you're using an mATX or ATX case you can get a PCI slot bracket to mount the 120mm fans right next to the GPU.
For years I'm running RX 580 deshrouded
2x120mm artic 1200RPM fan
3D printed bracket
And noise is gone
I have a Radeon RX580, 3 fan, and I was interested in doing the same thing. Any chance I can purchase a bracket from you?
Care to link to that file? Thanks
After watching this I just deshroud my Zotec 2070s. Since metal bracket issue I managed to swap stock fan with three 80mm NF-R8 . The result is INSANE. Set fan speed at 800RPM I cannot hear any noise generating from my PC which sits 40cm beside. Setting fan speed to 1800RPM at full speed in fan Xpert the noise is actually similar from which stock fans produce under no load(Zotec limit 2070s min fan speed to 1500RPM ). Thermal: 30min heaven extreme preset, temp max out at 78°C, clock speed 1980Mhz . (Case: NZXT H1 with 2070s, i7 10700k, no dust filter. All Nf-R8 set as sucking air from out side. )
You should make a deshroud video with the 3080 cards.
I deshrouded my Ventus 3080 and replaced the fans with 3 Noctua NF-A9x14 HS-PWM chromax fans. At 100% fan speed (2500 rpm) my GPU runs at 28C over ambient (48C). At 1500 rpm fan speed it runs at 34C over ambient (54C). At 1200rpm it runs at 45C over ambient (65C). Very happy with this mod. I can hardly hear the fans now
So why don't gpu's come with universal mounts for us to mount our own 120's to? Why isnt that a thing yet?
It's probably part of where they make their slim profit margins.
I imagine that would be ideal. They cut cost by not providing the fans and shroud, and we as enthusiasts can put any kind of fans that we like onto the GPU.
It is a thing. Buy a reference card, go to Raijintek or Arctic who will gladly sell you a heatsink, and go to Noctua for some fans.
@@MelvinKhosa this isn't the same thing. I feel like you're just flexing some random enthusiast knowledge. I don't want to disassemble a gpu, repaste it, and install a new heatsink just to connect some fans. I want to go to Newegg, buy an EVGA gpu and slap on 2 fans. 5 seconds, done.
It is still a mod. Would be better if the board manufacturers acknowledge their design shortcomings and just put standard fan bracket for easier installation. They have put water block preinstalled before so finger crossed.
I have the same setup in a SGPC K77 with a Powercolor 5700 XT and 2 Artic P12 fans set to exhaust. Running at 1000rpm in exhaust I get slightly better thermals than the stock fans and almost no noise, plus running the fans in exhaust removes some hot air from my case which helps with CPU cooling.
4:03 Which toolkit is it? Seems like the link is missing. Heard the iFixit bits are a little soft. You had any problems with them?
I’ve had an iFixit for about two years now and the only ones that are worn down are the p5 and y000, the regular size ones have held up to my 3D printers pretty fine
Dude, I just did this to my GPU after watching this video. similar setup. ncase m1, 5700xt raw 2. dropped my temps by 10-15 degrees c and fans went from 3200 rpm down to 1200. I'm using the noctua nf p12, the grey ones.
Thanks for this video, i never would have thought of doing this without it.
I should also mention, i was underclocked and undervolted before, and now i'm overclocked and haven't touched voltage. my computer no longer sounds like a hair-dryer when i'm gaming.
What about that noctua cooler? You never showed us how this one does on the Ncase M1! Cheers mate, great content as ever.
Hey mate, thanks for the video. Just a couple of days before this video, I did a deshroud of the Saphire Pulse 5700XT for my newest NCASE M1 v6.1 build. It was super easy and super effective. I could take off the shroud with only 5 screws and it was just the almost flat heat pipe uncovered. I have the NCASE M1, i9-10900k, AiO Arctic Freezer 240mm II, AsRock Phantom Gaming Z490 ITX/TB3, 2x Noctua NF-A12x25 Bottom Fans, 1x Noctua AF-9 PWM Chromax Intake Fan and 2x Noctua NF-F12 Chromax as exhaust in the side panel replacing the Arctic P12 fans on the AiO. Super happy with this setup. Idle 33db, Load 37db. The GPU is set to Automatic-Undervolt and fans spinning at 1500rpm max. It is so silent, that I don't even consider to put the GPU on water-cooling as well. See pictures here: imgur.com/gallery/MkenaZv
Building in a NR200 Wed. Hoping to try something similar with my current 1080 which I've mounted a morpheus 2 on. Most likely not going to fit with 120/25 since that makes the card almost 4 slots but I'm hoping with slim 120/15 it will fit. With this and Fuma 2 for the cpu I should have a nice small air cooled silent little ninja of a pc.
I saw a thread on reddit where NR200 + Morpheus II + 25mm works, just barely. The NR200 looks to have a bit more room than the Ncase.
I believe you are the first one I see doing these tests, that's exactly the kind of thing I do everytime my GPU fans stop working on my retro systems and is what I recommend my friends to lower the noise and improve temps.
Was the stock measurement taken before or after your stock mounting fix?
Probably not, since he used the screws from the deshrouding to fix the mounting problem?
@@popori7928 I realised just how bad the problem was after deshrouding, but then went back, installed the shorter screws, and re-tested with the original shroud and fans. This gave us the "Stock" result on the chart.
I borrowed two screws from the shroud to fix the issue, you can still mount the original shroud with 2 screws missing.
I'm sueing UA-cam if this channel doesn't reach at least 1M subscriber by this year
Wouldn't this work on any case if you just zip tied the fans to the graphics card heatsink? I would love to see a video on that.
@@Nephid I probably saw it when it came out and forgot about it. I am very interested to see this channel do it as this channel has a lot of focus on fans and cooling in SFF Cases when LTT is more of a fun LOL type channel.
So which GPU manufacturer will be the first to team up with Noctua and just slap 2 x NF-A12x25 on a GPU and call it a day.
Noctua are weird, they don't team up with anyone. There are no AIOs with Noctua fans, nor cases, power supplies of graphics cards. Shame.
Jon Donnelly you are wrong. Asus ROG AIO team up with Noctua.
I see you using NH-C14S and in the past you used to run a Noctua NH-D9L (i think), which of the two nets you better temps and noise?
Probably the c14s depending on case configuration
I'd love to see a video comparing the NH-C14S to the NH-U9S in the NCASE M1 v 6.1.
I honestly was not expecting such a dramatic difference. Good video Ali. Seriously eyeing off my gpu and contemplating doing the same thing.
Perforated desk for further decrease in temps...lol
i've managed to get 2x ML140 140mm fans in the lower section of the NCase m1 with some small mods to the fan brackets, again i did this to further lower the speed of my fans on my 1080ti with the accelero III. absolutely amazing mod.
This deshrouding is even better, as you can don't need to glue crappy ram sinks on!, ill be looking for the certain 3080ti card that comes on the market that allows us to run with this option, i dont care for flashing lights, and smaller noiser fans. We want outright performance and silence!
thanks again ali great videos as always!
I wonder which of the new 3000 series you can easily deshroud mod with?
Basically you can deshroud every single gpu.
Jay showed that going in and redoing the thermal paste and thermal pads on a hot card can potentially increase thermal performance substantially, this shows that if you're willing to "de-shroud" and replace the fans there's even more performance to be gained. a pair of Noctua's isn't cheap but they last a long time, you could do this and migrate them to whatever new graphics card you get assuming you're willing to do a bit of "jury rigging" and the lower thermals should allow you to dramatically reduce fan speed hence noise under load, my kinda mod.
Great video, I have a question for the CPU cooling though. Is the fan set as intake or exhaust?
I think it is used as intake
Amazing results. Honestly I would snip those metal shroud mounting tabs off to do it.
This isn't a deshrouding mod....this is a cold air intake mod.
Lol you must be a car guy
I just literally built a white NR200 partially based on this video. Placing my power supply on the side, like here, made everything fit much better. (NR200, C14S bottom fan, 5600x, CM-V750 SFX, 1080 ti). Your build videos are awesome!
What about Coolermaster's NR200 ??
Deshrouded my Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti. Using two Arctic P12's in a vertical mount adaptor in my Corsair 220T case, I went from 76c with 30 minutes of unigen to 51c. Much quieter and insane drop in temps.
Does having two fans blow air towards the GPU like that actually help with its temps?
yes
I run this setup in 2018 with a Rx580top Strix and it was amazing! It work withe the RTx Strix cards too BUT you need a special adapter for the new rtx cards, because nvidia change the fan port! You can buy this adapter by „artic“ as a stand alone part for the accelor3/4 👍🏻
Wait, hows "exhaust" cooler than "intake"? Exhaust as in the fans blow down out of the case?
Yes the exhaust fans blow down onto the table out of the case. The reason it’s cooler is because there is much more space to bring air from within the case than intaking from the small area under the case, this also takes out warm air from the case
No clue, but it's the same with my Lian Li TU150 case. I got a 10 degrees C difference (under load) when I flipped my bottom fans to exhaust.
Yeah I'd imagine it's because after 20min or so the small case is otherwise saturated with ambient heat from all the intakes. Having one of them as exhaust alleviates this; perhaps even lay the case on its side so it can exhaust the hot air unobstructed.
You can control fans on those fan headears only with asus gpu tweak 2 software, not with radeon software.
20c Ambient temp is too cool for real tests. not every one has AC and coooling room to 20c is not recommend ideal temp is 25-26c for siting.
People live in different regions, you know. There's plenty of places where you have to actively ~heat~ your room for the most of the year to have it at 20c.
Also that shouldn't change much -- assume results would change linearly with ambient higher than tested (so add 5-6 dergrees to all shown results)
@@niter43 yes.
I have a deshrouded 1080ti in my NCASE M1 with 25x120mm Noctuas, like the build in the video. Huge improvement over stock, and very easy to execute. Would absolutely recommend it
How come, that when i went for deshrouding, i have higher temps on my gpu when set as exhaust? Did it with a 2080ti black from evga and had around 5-6 degrees hotter. Was very similar to the fusion 3 with the kraken for a 9900k that is limited to 95w...
When it comes to PC cooling there are so many variables its almost impossible to compare temperatures unless every component is the same. Even then there are variables like mounting pressure etc which will also effect things
When you post your build with pics somewhere like pcpartpicker oder builds gg than maybe we can comment on it :) do t forget to share the link to your build
Maybe your case isnt high enough off the desk for the air to flow easily. Either that or its your choice of fan.
EVGA Black Edition is 2-slot card? Are you using different case, thicker fans or made shrouds for fans? Because otherwise you should have a gap bellow fans and M1 bottom -- fans don't blow all of the air outside of the case.
Also even with shrouds/proper spacing it's reasonable to think that slim heatsinks work worse with exhaust -- as with such configuration fans pull air through the heatsink from it's sides (and there is less area from side profile).
where are you exhausting to ? sucking air from the heat sink will very rarely be better it only works in the case in the video where the fans can blow the air out the case directly. in a normal case and GPU placement you will want to have it blowing into the heat sinks. . i also thing the VRM temps where higher in the exhaust setup in the video but might not have been monitored in that part of the test.
The Fractal Design Era can also benefit from this sort of mod. The clearance is a _lot_ tighter, but the airflow boost for that case in particular is incredible.
Anyone tried this in an NZXT H1? Is this even possible in the H1?
Yes it is possible, I am going to actually be doing it later today. Look up nzxt h1 mods on the itx subreddit
@@TheGaspacho21 Let me know how it goes :) Which GPU will you be using? I have preordered my H1 and am waiting for it to arrive before i buy parts. I am mostly interested in making the H1 as quiet as possible.
I've got a deshrouded Gigabyte 2070 super in my H1 and it made a huge difference to noise/ thermals. I have two noctua NF-A12x15s attached; no issues with protruding brackets but you do have to get creative with zip ties to attach the fans. Felt very crude whilst I was building it but actually I think the end result looks better than stock.
If reducing noise is in your interests I'd also recommend swapping the stock psu for an SF750 or similar - the stock psu isn't loud, but I found the stop start switching in and out of passive mode a little intrusive. Basically do all this :
www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/g579s1/not_your_average_h1_post/
James Barnett awesome! Do you have pics? Did you zip tie the fans to the GPU?
Forgot that I repasted the cooler as well. No idea if it helped but figured I may as well whilst it was apart, but by no means necessary for the fan mod.
Did the same with the node 202 using the amd Fury card from saphire back in the day. Loved it
okay, ravepriest1 copy
just kidding
my gtx770's triple fans stooped working so i de-shrouded it and brought a Evercool PB-01 PCI slot Fan bracket for 1 or 2 x 92 or 120mm fans mounted the bracket and fans(2x120mm) with a 1 slot space and it worked a treat card didn't go above 70 in stress tests and stayed around 62 while gaming
Well done, it's impressive.
My 1080ti's with water blocks are dead silent, never exceed 50 degrees Celsius, and overclock like mad as a result. Having enjoyed custom loop water cooled systems, I can't imagine doing it differently just because of how quiet it runs with a big radiator.
I did this for a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 5700 XT paired with some Noctua fans, all stuffed into a Ghost S1, and I couldn't be happier.
I have a system with an Asus 5700XT. Same issue with the VRM screws being too long. I used plastic washers to sort that out.
But that's not even the only issue! As with your thumbnail, you can see that the backplate is bent higher around the die area - because the stock thermal pads around the die area are too thick! Asus really did a great job with these after-market coolers...
So I tested this with a Gigabyte 5700xt Gaming OC 8gb edition in a regular case using the stock heatsink and setting the card in my second PCIE slot and jerryrigging the fans beneath it on the power supply shroud inside of a Lian LI Lancool 2 with a gap of about 3-5mm.
It dropped idle temperature from 45C to 30C and reliably cools the card under regular loads (this is gaming loads, no benchmarks done.) Temperatures will hover at 75C-85C with junction at 85C-90C.
However with some specific games, this instance Starcitizen, the GPU temp will be around 75C but the junction will still be pushed to max junction temperature at 110C. This was prevented by doing a power draw reduction of -25% and now I feel the GPU runs at a comfortable level of 65c-75C with junction at 85C-90C with it being at near stock gameclock of around 1800-1850mhz. This is with the fans also at full blast using 2 120mm Noctua NFA-F12 fans (what I have right now) and with an open side panel. (I do not trust the air to flow much just from the front because I have a 360 rad to my cpu)
It works but with the 5700xt just drawing in so much power and undervolting being so unstable for me it seems like running it on a negative power draw helps with keeping it cool as once it starts going up there in voltage it'll still be hot af.
This is mainly my concern with running StarCitizen. Every other game runs perfectly fine with stock clocks and 0 changes.
you are an absolute professional. I have no fear recommending you as the go-to pc hardware channel.
for anyone worried about mounting it's pretty easy to just do it yourself but if not capable of doing so etsy sells a kit with brackets for fans along with a mini 4 pin to a split 4 pin for both of your fans for like 20 dollars i believe. I've been doing this for a few years actually It does work pretty well on most cards but at the end of the day I just water cool everything becuase no matter how much air you throw at it if it's hotspot problems you're having water cooling is the only solution.
A simple pipe guiding fresh air to the GPU makes a massive improvement.
Never realised it before, but you've got an orange worktop that's amazing for showing off work in high contrast.
i like this channel, you don't seem over the top or full of yourself being popular like some do once they hit a certain amount of followers !
Ahhh, back when triple slot cards were considered huge. Good ol' days...