Magic Johnson denies bullying, intimidation allegations: ‘It never happened’ | SportsCenter
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2024
- Magic Johnson sits with Stephen A. Smith and Michael Wilbon and responds to an article on ESPN.com about deep dysfunction and distrust in the Los Angeles Lakers organization during his tenure as GM.
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Magic's running the floor throwing behind the back no-look shade at the Lakers organization.
😂
Jon M lmaoooo nice one!
Not shade if he's defending himself from lies. He's absolutely right about HR. If you any think about mistreating an employee Human Resources will be all over you!
Jon M 🏆🏆🏆
😂😂😂😂👍🏽
When Magic starts talking about his business ventures you know he's not playin with these boys 😭😂.
On god, he’s got it down to the body language
TheInfamousTroll facts
Mmmmkaaaayyyy lmao
Lol st8 FLEXIN'
What business? The funding partners he has?
*Magic just letting us know he making money he doesn't need the gig*
Us Lakers fans already knew that though
We knew he didn't need the gig. So why didn't he just fire Pelinka and Luke? What punishment would HE have faced for doing that? He could've fired those 2 as abruptly as he quit and let them call Jeannie and cry about it.
@Martin S Doesn't that mean he could've fired Luke and Pelinka with no worries?
He survived his HIV diagnosis because the AIDS virus needed a sugar daddy. That's how rich he is.
Haha u right
This might all become a great 30 for 30 one day
Facts
Pac Meez good point, especially if Lebron wins a title or 2 with them out of all of this
Great as in good or great as in disaster???
Lebron isn't all that great. He's not winning a championship without 2+ allstars.
lol it might be the Knicks for the last 18 years too
All of this is so messy but I'm hooked like my wife watching love and hip hop
LMBO😁
Shemaiah Roberts 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmfao, you know what I can't talk shit about anyone who watches that mess anymore because this is exactly what this shit is.
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FACTS ❗❗❗❗❗
Tbh this is like ESPNs version of The Shop, ”The Magic” 😂
Lmao
Andrew Mitchell what’s tbh?
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Cashflo Digital Sports Network - CDSN lol “to be honest” 😂😂
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I know someone that worked directly for Magic as an executive assistant. She was a very cool, real lady. And she said Magic was first class in treating people. Demanding but first class.
My dad used to work for Magic also...my dad says he a total asshole
You know someone???? Okay
@@papaaddo6270 Yeah I worked at Sony and so did she. I can't remember her name but she thought the world of him.
my Cousin worked for Magic in 2015, she said he was abusive.
@@Ste88til2 liar lol
The NBA is beautiful bruh so much drama, this shit like VH1 😂😂
Lol Magic really didn’t like Luke Walton
Luke wearing that Green and White underneath the suit. . Celtics all day. . Magic knew it.
Looks more like he, or THEY, needed a scapegoat for all their lousy roster moves and acquisitions. Sure Magic was, is, successful in other businesses, but that clearly did not translate to managing the Lakers. That Luke Walton take is BS.
Why should he? He couldnt coach
@@katokthefirst nah, Luke was getting plays changed by Lebron, just like every other coach he disrespected. When it comes down to it, who's worth more to the team; Lebron James, who is a better GM than Rob is, AND one of the 3 best players in the world, or Luke Walton, a coach that Lebron doesn't want?
They could have made a second round appearance in the playoffs this year with a healthy roster. Arguably, because of Rob, the AD deal went south because no one wanted to talk to him. Pop convinced the Pelicans GM not to fuck with the Lakers. So they played with the Laker front office pretending to be interested and in the final hour said, "you know what, fuck you Rob, we're not interested".The intricacies of the trade made it to the press and the season imploded.
Magic thought he had autonomy, but he apparently didn't have the power to fire Luke in order to get Lebron's pick in there. So Magic said, ok, went to the arena and resigned immediately. In the end, Jeanie used Magic for name recognition, and Magic was willing to return the favor until he realized that he was being used and undercut. Shit. That's a word salad, but at least I spared you from having to watch this shit show on tv.
@@TheAutumnWind_RN4L Right on point, man. Then they had to point on someone to save face. Well, come to think of it, they're all pointing at each other now. They all better pray that the Kings don't fare better than the Lakers this next season.
Every boss has a couple employees who complain about they was mean to them ,usually the ones who wasn't doing there jobs
Keepinit100 Everyday yep sounds like it to me too
Danm right!
*their
@@ijeomadavid.u5343 damn*
@@tropicalstorm339Valencia whatever man, I believe my message was delivered,
Purple stripes on socks 🧦 doesn’t scream abuse 😂 magic is magic
@@smilebehappy6102 Those bitches should have been come forward but they will wait 59 yrs like those gotdam Cosby accusers!
The hottest team in the the NBA Finals. The non Playoff Los Angeles Lakers.
Franklin Yi that hurts, I love the Lakers
Lakers earned a lot, maybe more than the eventual champion this season.
LAKERS.....
Just won the ring,suck that
"I inherited Luke Walton" 😂😂😂
Moe Bursey Like he a problem child 😂😂😂 what does father Bill have to say about all of this?!?!
Tay W man he said it like Luke was and old car that was always giving him problems 😂😂😂
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Magic is a real Laker! Jeanie inherited the team and Pelinka weaseled his way in. Something needs to change or Jeanie will run that organization into the ground.
Well, Pelinka was Kobe’s agent. Kobe swears by him as a great friend. That’s the weird thing. Someone like Kobe trusts him
Lakers are like any other organization/Corporation in America, run by sycophants and nepotism.
Lakers need new fans. Right now the fanbase is delusional & the majority owner keep giving Lakers a bad look.
Rico Lucas The other owners of the Lakers are not happy with Jeanie’s leadership. If she doesn’t improve, they will initiate a takeover. They are not just going to sit back and let everything be destroyed.
Waves BBS wasn’t koby a snitch at one point? Birds of a feather? Lol
Magic is styling with purple and gray. Plus he knows the correct way to wear a pocket square!
His son probably dressed him
Kenny Oliver - Lmao
@@kennyoliver150 I see what you did right there... 😆
Magic “Nino Brown” Erving🔥💯💣
:)
You’re insane bro😂😂😂😂
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Magic Johnson loves him some Stephen A, he always does tv appearances for him. Good Relations.
Because Stephen A kisses super star ass like no other
That's that networking. Bet Magic give SAS a tip about a new business venture or startup.
Stephen A is biased and doesn't challenge him on anything, that's why.
Like Ramona Shelburne is Jeannie Buss PR person.
Boule Brotherhood...
At least he admitted they should not be even talking about this 😂😂
The Lakers are a complete joke right now. Throwing the face of the franchise and the best laker ever under the "bus"... this coming from a life long Fan. It's sad.
And Kobetards blame Lebron for all their garbage
Magic felt the pressure so I'm sure he blew off some steam and that's when he made his "mistakes"
r mac So you believe a single position has driven him to explode when he owns a dozen companies effectively?
Magic after this show: I swear if y’all ask me one more f***king question about the Lakers🤬
😂😂😂😂😂
When he said.. *"LAZY !?...."* You knew he was about wipe the sweat off his forehead like a preacher, and get up in front of the church 🤣😂💀💯
Kind of bugs me that they keep interviewing him with people that are his friends.
I'd like to see people with less bias asking the questions.
A3 all famous ppl do that
Brando he was booked for the show before this report.. so why not explain yourself.... and there his friends off tv be real
A3 he wont sit down with non friends
A3 that's the same thing I commented! These idiots have already brought Magic in & we've already heard his side of the story! I feel like SAS is purposely trying to get on his side just because he's black, we've seen SAS try to race bait in favor of black folks, which I have no problem with but as you said, can they bring in someone else from the Laker organization so we can hear both sides of the story!?
Thats the only reason why Magic is doing it. He is a two faced loser.
If Magic yelled at me on the job i would run home after work and tell my family "Magic Johnson just spoke to me" i'd be so excited and come back to work the next day striving to my best. Love you Magic and i know you love the Lakers like i do !
The 3 OG’s spitting real flames
Andrew Mitchell and 2 of those OG’s are kissing Magic’s ass.
This isn’t journalism, this isn’t asking him tough and fair questions. This is a joke.
@@TempeSoldier123 😂 they are Boule aka black freemasons it's a show
TempeSoldier123 doesn't necessarily have to be ”real journalism” for there to be a real moment in the interview
Original gays
@@TempeSoldier123 tough questions? LOL Magic was on first take last week...u mustve missed that part
A 30 For 30: Lakers dysfunctional organization
That would be a truly amazing 30 for 30
What if I told you an organization’s fall from grace caused it to alienate their franchise’s best player
First of all every team goes through bullshit Golden State is going though it only difference is they're winning.
Magic getting thrown under the bus by the same organization he played for ain’t no loyalty in this game 😂🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Stop talking magic! Some things best left unsaid
I agree with you. Magic must be quite himself. A lot of peoples just wait to hear something about lakers.
So he is supposed to take people trashing his name? The man conquered HIV, you think he is just gonna roll over while people call him lazy and abusive? There are certain things money can't buy, namely your reputation.
@@brianreed805 well Magic is the one who said he doesnt care what others say about him yet here he is defending himself again.
@@brianreed805 Conquered HIV?? The fuck, he's just taking medication to suppress it.
WHY?????? TO MUCH TRUTH 🤔🤔
I was a chauffeur for magic a couple years ago.. he was nice and polite to EVERYONE that we encountered, he actually spoke with everyone personally. He’s a great man. Period.
I Believe In the words of Magic Johnson he is telling the whole truth in what he is saying
night Raider I don’t know, I love magic but I think he is just trying to protect his image.
@@jamaalclarke2380
He is, why you think he came to espn again? His image is being hit and he don't like it. He is acting like a child when he signed up for this to begin with.
You’re pretty gullible then. I used to think highly of Magic, but he’s showing his true colors lately and it’s not pretty.
Less is more. He should’ve stopped discussing this weeks ago
He out here tellin his truth like he’s Jordan woods 🤦🏽♂️
.......heu ok😒
He’s telling the Truth ! I am going to tell you something that you might find weird but when you look deeper on it you will understand ! Magic is a Leo like myself and everything he’s saying i can relate to ! Leo’s are very demanding people because we demand the most from ourselves And when we have to deal with people who are not like us or completely oppposite we have a problem ! we are absolutely not lazy people omg...like Magic said i worked like His dad...lazy is a word a Leo dont know and if we see lazy people we cant handle that ! So all this drama from people saying bad things about Magic i can assure you its not true ! If you get panic attacks c’mon than there is something wrong with you ...my boss never ever had to say anything to me coz he knew i was doing my job ..but if Magic see a person not doing her or his job like they should he will tell them and the problem is we are very straightforward people and not alot can handle that ..Magic can say anything to me coz i will appreciate it him saying to my face and not behind my back coz same like him ...i hate that ! I always respect people that say it straight to my face ..if they say i’m a asshole i don’t mind , if they would say i’m dick i wont mind just because they say it to my face than i know what people i’m dealing or working with , but when you hear all kinds of things behind your back than We never feel comfty among those people ...for us Leo’s to feel good so we can function at our best we need to be surrounded with people like us ...thats why Magic said i have to have my own people ...coz trust is everything for us ! when i saw that pressconference 2 years ago with Rob telling stories i already said to my friends ...this will not work ! He’s like a preacher and i dont trust people like that ! So what i predictie back than came out ...i knew Magic would have problems with him over time ...i hope it makes a but sense 😜
FOH Magic lying his ass off LMAO
@@LR-tc3jl because ur a dumbass
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The NBA finals is going on and what is the big topic..? The Lakers 🤣 Gotta love the NBA.
Mark Troy Natividad long as it controversy and negativity going on it gonna be talked about till it turns good, then u won't hear anything else.
I'm lakernation, I don't mind
@Mark Troy Natividad Name one thing entertains about the finals. Sure the raptors make it for the 1st time but that’s not going to stop the Warriors 3peating without 2 of their superstars.
Kenshin Himura Are you a GSW fan?
@Mark Troy Natividad No I’m a Laker fan,but the ratings have dropped (worldwide) for this year’s playoffs by the same amount of ratings (worldwide) the Lakers got tho season (1/3). That alone conveys how important the Lakers are to the nba which is why ESPN is constantly making vids about the Lakers or LeBron or both. Believe it or not,this may be The WNBA’s last season because its ratings continue to drop. That is why ESPN is pushing to broadcast more WNBA soon.
Kenshin Himura I totally agree. But not having the Lakers.. and Lebron in the playoffs.. I’m not surprised the drop in ratings. Kobe and Shaq kept the NBA on top of the world. The moment Kobe retired.. the NBA wasn’t the same and will not be the same. Lebron is amazing but Magic, Bird, Jordan and Kobe.. those guys made the NBA prime time. Ya know.
The man is THE reason I got into and love the game of basketball. The fact that he just went through this whole messy situation, that probably hurt on a personal level, and still continues to be an ambassador of the game and for the Lakers tells me everything I need to know. He is a professional and a class act.
Yes, you have to love his honesty
The truth will set you free and that's Magic Johnson, the greatest smile ever
Man magic you don’t owe nobody an explanation on anything. Period
Wrong. The timing of is departure hurt the Lakers immensely. He could have done it AFTER the free agency period. And, Jeannie said he had the power but he was too afraid of upsetting the apple cart to fire Walton or Pelinka. And it was Pelinka, more than anyone, who was to blame for the shit year they had last year because of the god awful strategy of NOT surrounding LeBron with shooters. Now Pelinka is the one left standing... Ewwww!
@@chriscohen3542 only magic admitted that it was his plan to surround Lebron with Shooters. Pelinka didn't have any power.
Telling people that they will be held accountable is not abusive.
THIS IS WAR!
Magic vs. Lakers - Round 2!
C. Diddy magic up 2-0 lol
Wait? Orlando is Rivalry with Lakers 🤷♂️🙄
So he held employee accountable but got mad that Rob called him out for not being in his office enough lol
Don't you love the way he's shifting the blame on everyone else but himself and clowns like Stephen A are doing everything in his power to cover up for him?
“Thank You Magic , this shit been going on for 6 years”
magic lookin like a billion bucks. glad he left for himself. hope the lakers can figure this out
LA Times had a article on the Magic abuse of staff. It was reportedly so bad Magic would have been forced to step down. If Magic didn’t do anything bad then why did the league feel the need to buy out that article?
A Bumblebee is not supposed to be able to fly, so why can it fly? You ask a leading question about a subject that you are completely ignorant about, and you want to get some other fools to speculate about something that they do not know anything about.
Magic speaks so smooth and convincing that he can make Pope Francis give him a foot massage
Incredible. Magic starts to look like a KD with his burner accounts, justifying about everything he did/does.
Don't put that slithering fool in the same sentence as Magic.
What kind of bullshit comment is this?
I did not hear him justifying anything, he explained things that he regretted and things that he believed had to be done. Obviously, you have never run a business.
The NBA is going to come with its version of hard knocks after this.
Magic Johnson out here acting like his son 💅🏾
He's not convincing. Whenever someone has to boast about their businesses and accomplishments (The blanket) that means they are trying to cover up something.
Leadership is a hard job.. When change is needed, feathers must be ruffled, and some people fired.. Of course people will not like to see their co workers and friends fired..
Brehon Mills -The Stock Investor that’s not what happened. What happened was if a player was injured he forced them to play earlier in the season when athletic trainers and doctors said no. And u clearly saw what happened at the end of the season. Why do u think he said he didn’t get to hire his own people? He’s not the owner
Tell Rob Pelinka- "keep my name outchur mouth" -Magic
Exactly
Back when Magic was an ESPN/NBC/ABC/TNT analyst or even as a late-night talk show host, I never paid attention to him. Magic would just ramble. Now I hang onto his every word! 🤣🍿
Lol you're franchise sucks shut up 🤣🤣🤣
Just keep fanning those flames Magic.
Magic Johnson the Greatest of all time we love you fam
At what throwing shade at the lakers brand and shitting all over his "sister".
🥊Magic vs Rob Palinker 🥊on ESPN PPV. Max make it happen 💯
And of course with Max, it's always gonna be Kobe's fault
When the hate doesn’t work they start telling lies
Nothing is bigger than Magic's ego. He's the greatest man to ever live... just ask him. Or don't ask him, he'll let you know anyway 😂😂
That's alright. Let it be said, he probally has more money than Trump!
03:57 "The one thing I didn't get to do is hire everybody that I wanted. Rob and I got put together"
lmfao Magic BACK at it 🤣 This man stay grilling Pelinka with a calm smile like he narrating his life to Oprah
I love it when he said " I inherited Luke Walton " calmly shading him lmao!
"Tell my truth" ... pretty interesting choice of words there.. Magic is very very slick.
Magic just need shout the fuck up and ride out
The wrong choice of words, Mr. Ervin Johnson is very honest.
@@georgecooper8092 Coming from someone who has no knowledge about what went on.
Aye, Rob! You better step up your lying game. This Magic guy is gonna be special. 😭
ESPN should exclusively cover Lakers and Duke game that's the only teams they care about
And Boston
ESPN is tmz sports
Cant wait for dallas cowboys season to start.
Magic is quickly losing credibility. He needs to shut up and walk away from this mess.
I'm with magic all the way. Everything he says has the ring of truth to it. He's also a great role model outside the world of basketball.
Wrong. The timing AND the way he went about his departure hurt the Lakers immensely. He could have done it AFTER the free agency period. And, Jeannie said he had the power but he was too afraid of upsetting the apple cart to fire Walton or Pelinka. And it was Pelinka, more than anyone, who was to blame for the shit year they had last year because of the god awful strategy of NOT surrounding LeBron with shooters. Now Pelinka is the one left standing... Ewwww!
Magic: "Lakers have a great staff" I was waiting for him to say "except for Rob" 😂😂😂😂
Sounds like magic is full of crap! If he has any dirty laundry we will eventually smell it.
Can Stephen A. Smith at least try to get Jeanie's or Pelinka's side of the story as well?! I feel that he's constantly trying to purposely make Magic look good just because he's black & we've seen numerous amount of times on how SAS has been a race baiter and/or purposely biased in favor of black people!
um.... Maybe they denied?
jack grippe true! lol
Jonny Pound-4-Pound's #1 G-O-A-T I think it is more because they are friends but Magic is probably a horrible person if we are being real as most famous people are but no one can really say anything about them because they come off so friendly in the press, just faking their personalities instead of giving us the real thing
Jonny Pound-4-Pound's #1 G-O-A-T cause magic is black and sas is a closet racist. If the owner of the lakers was black or pelinka was black he wouldnt be saying a damn thing
Barry McCockner yeah I know I've noticed that about Stephen A. He's constantly vouching for black HC's or black personal to get hire! Dude's fucking annoying! How about he vouches for anybody that's actually qualified to do the job instead of trying to turn this into a racial & color thing!
Magic must be like damn I'm facing more drama after leaving the Lakers than I did while being there
People who say shit like "this is my truth" can't be trusted lol.
All this drama it's like it's becoming Days of our Lakers on ESPN. Lol
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Magic you never worked for the companies you mention, never hold a executive position, you were just an ambassador
yeah he's just used his name basically and now wants to convince us he's a great businessman hahahahahaha :-)
Gotta respect and love magic!
u can b 'lazy' at one business and not at another... magic didn't get 'what he wanted' and he whined an QUIT .. he just speaks well and is good at manipulating the situation ... dude FAILED at his job and QUIT
He had full CONTROL with the other businesses he didnt with the lakers because he wasn't ALLOWED to make the moves he wanted to make........Simple
I would buy anything Magic Johnson has to sell. He's just too charming and articulate and smart. What a master communicator!
Magic in studio the day this Story breaks? 🤔🤔🤔
The man has a private jet(s). 😂😂😂
@@REVOFEV792 no I know he probably lives and works out of LA but dam this was set up pretty well
That's why espn put out the stories
Salvador Bribiesca he said on first take they were going to meet up and do something the end of May
Richard Cherry bro I remember that. But was this story apart of the plan.. or were they just gonna sit and talk Finals
“Fortune 5-hunnit company” OG Magic Johnson
“I’m really upset that I’m talking about this”
Well uhh... you’re the one who brought it up on live television.
This how grown men should communicate. Sit and talk like grown men.
Magic is worse than a snitch like Dlo. If he ain't Magic and just another former president or front office guy, he will be crucified and everyone will be losing their minds.
Preach magic!!! 😤😤😤
Magic wants the Lakers out of the news. Doesn't want to talk about them again until July. Yet, Magic still appears on ESPN eight days later to talk about them! 🤣
LA Clippers he’s just rebuttalling the reports of him saying he’s a bully. What’s wrong with that?
The man got to stick up for himself. They are spreading lies on his name! That's weak . SMDH
He said this the last time dumbo lol
He's either an idiot or hes doing this on purpose
I realize this was two years ago. Today was the first time that I saw this podcast on UA-cam. The below comments in the Comments Section, selectively, were some of the most thought out and hilarious comments that I’ve ever read. For awhile, I couldn’t stop laughing. We miss you on the court Magic.
Magic agreed to appear with 2 sycophants who were sure to lob softballs and stick their tongues in his ear. This guy quit and it's everyone else's fault. C'mon man.
So what would you prefer, people accusing Magic of being lazy, incompetent, abusive, etc, and Magic never having a chance to respond?
Go where you're celebrated, not where you're tolerated.
You did right Magic, you did right.
Damn, Rob Perlinker writing ESPN articles now?
Magic has this honest perception. You can just sense his honesty
Magic Johnson wasn't qualified for be the job. Can't believe someone thought he was.
JaVale McGee should host a special Shaqtin’ A Fool show ranking the worst moves made by the Lakers front office.
Can we really believe anything Magic says...
If you look at the comments people believe anything he says
I know you must be a white guy...
@@222savvy what does race have to do with anything?
@@donnellbrown4575 it's always doubt when it comes to the black race but yet the president can say that the former president wasn't born in the US and white folks believe that shit...
@@222savvy i am black an i don't believe half the shit he is saying
Magic is trash. His full character is being exposed, man. He's been trashing the team and "sister" he loves so much ever since he got called out.
Lebron probably saying... I could've gone to the NBA Finals again with a different team, not this Laker drama team
AEW_AEW_AEW can’t believe this is news when other organizations have worse going on
Sad that someone of Magic's unquestioned integrity has to address people with low level mindsets. Clearly he's frustrated with having to answer this garbage, yet he still takes the high road - Awesome! Kudos to Stephen A. Smith for the Great Panel!
Magic take responsibility. This was your fail.
Magic Johnson is a class act, I'll entertain no slander about this man.
He definitely mistreated an employee you can tell by his tone and the way he keeps repeating that he didnt
Magics' honesty is refreshing.
i feel like isiah thomas is really laughing with all this going on
Thank you magic. Don't let them try to silence you. Tell your truth
Magic is aware of everything when it comes to personal relationships and other peoples potential as a person individually to contribute to a winning organization. Rob needs to go 🤷♂️
He doesn't know shit about building a winning team.
@@Josh-go5lu go look at the Dogers Josh 😆😆😆
@@dacreativebrinson66 he's a co-owner. I'm not a baseball fan but i'm pretty sure owners don't oversee anything pertaining to the players
@@dacreativebrinson66 Like he's building that team lmao you're fucking insane if you genuinely believe that
Magic is positioning himself to buy the team. I believe the article, Magic is all smiles in front of the fans but is a fucking savage businessperson. He doesn't really have any respect for his relationships, and probably does rule with intimidation. But hey it makes for some GREAT tv lol
Stop trying to hang the Lakers disfunction on Magic.I would of left the way I wanted to also,with pylenka running my name in the ground.
He should have confronted Palinka man to man before he quit.
Hell yea lol you goddamn right and people acting like Magic wasn't doing his job, shit they wouldn't ALLOW him to HIS job plus there was shit talking going on.....shhhhhiiit im out too.
Key word that Magic used was accountability, people these day don't like being held accountable to do there jobs. Magic has always been my favorite player and I support you Magic. One of the thing on my bucket list is to meet him, he's and great man.
magic sucked as a basketball coach so how he got that job in the first place is still mind boggling
CEO... hahaha
Straight from Toronto!!!
I used to respect SAS - still do kinda - but it’s fading. Clear bias here with Magic.
I used to respect Magic but he’s making himself look foolish and petty lately.
And wilbon? Never respected that chump lol.
you sit with Magic and you'll be biased too. That smile will get your knees all jello wiggly. I don't care if you aint gay.
Who cares you broke bastard
I saw Magic at the Utah Airport nicest person ever. ❤
It's a crying shame what the Lakers trying to do to their best ever player/ ambassador...
Magic is a stand up guy. He doesn't have to explain his situation any further.
He's a stand up guy, but quit his job because someone was talking behind his back. And said he didn't want to tell Jeanie his decision because she would try to stop him, and he would cry... That's very stand up.