It's a New Day...A New Era but I was a little sad for the human. He definitely gave his all and it just wasn't enough for this Organization. I will say his character is top notch. It's unfortunate he couldn't getvthe results we needed
time to be happy, this is progress, simply the next step in the process towards GLORY! imo. just as ditching Barkley was (and I'm a DJ lover but it clearly wasn't working)
Pat Leonard over exaggerates for his own ratings. The Giants did not do wrong by Daniel Jones. In fact the Giants kept Daniel Jones too long because of that contract. We wish him all the best. if he ends up at Philly, so be it somehow I don’t think he’s going to miraculously change into a franchise quarterback, but I wish him well.
Been watching BBB since around the end of last season. You guys are awesome! Love the all-22 film studies and it’s clear you guys know your shit and put a lot of hard work into this. Such a shame that you have to cover this abysmal season we’re having. Just know that you still have fans that will enjoy your content regardless of how the team performs year in and year out! Keep it up Dan and Nick!
Just wanted to say I recently discovered you guys and are already one of my favorite giants channels. You guys are intelligent and think the same way I do about this franchise, look forward to more content 😊
Great pod as always. Wish Jones the best and hope he finds success. Great person, just lacking the performance. Your All-22 breakdowns confirm this and no one that watches this pod will think the Giants did bad by him. Proof is in the film. I’m also a big fan of Winston, wanted the Giants to get him last off-season!! Hopefully DeVito doesn’t ruin our chances again this year of getting a franchise QB…if there even is one in this draft???
Anticipatory, accurate throws not possible for him constantly. Best offensive minds try to pick QBs with those traits. Plus arm is bonus. A little wiggle is necessary. DJ doesn’t have most necessary traits for those guys imo.
Love your thoughtful analysis and sincere critique. This is just something from my end. Not everyone is on Twitter, aka X, so things that are said there and posted there not all of us see so when you make references to things that you guys post there some of your audience doesn’t get it, just saying
Wow, guys. Crazy potential scenarios for Jones, who could very well find his place in the league as a solid #2. If he does go to the Eagles, it's possible that Jones could play against the Giants in the last game of the year, if the Eagles have won the division, decide to sit Hurts, and Jones slips ahead of Pickett on the depth chart... How surreal it would be to see Jones handing off to Saquon with both of them dressed in green.
The scout team thing to me sounds like Daboll and the coaching staff asked Daniel or found something for him to still be part of practice so he didn't feel left out. The benching is a business decision obviously, and everything else about this is the Giants taking care of someone who was seen as a star player for them.
The only thing you need to know,jones was 24-44-1…I wanted jones traded after the 2019 season,you could tell back then,he was a deer in the headlights,I wanted Herbert in 2020 draft
It's unbelievably sad that Daboll tells Nabers that Tommy throws before he get out of his break. So be ready as compared with Jones, who waits till after the break, then hesitates, then throws. One slight problem, Tommy has a high school arm and needs high heeled shoes to see over the lineman.
It's amazing to me how the media/rubes narrative is now that the Giants are the bad organization that "ruined" Daniel Jones. Just last week they were calling him trash lol
The night I knew Jones was going to be a very bad QB? The night he was drafted! Saw him play at Duke vs UNC, my alma mater, and never, ever, ever thought he was starting QB material in the NFL. Finally, the curse of Daniel Jones is over!!! Six years down the drain, it's disgusting.
Just a sad situation all around. If you prorated DJ’s rookie season (dropping some fumbles)-(12 games) over 16 seasons: 51,000 yards 384td 192 int 4,800r yards 32 tds Would rank just behind Eli, who admittedly was never a top 5 QB (except for post season). PLUS- everything clicked for Simms year 7 on… but you guys didn’t see him play.
Let’s be real, they aren’t trying to win any games for the remainder of this season. They put in Devito to fully ensure they will not win any games by skipping Drew Lock on the depth chart
Why would any winning organization bring Daniel Jones in? For what? The eagles and the rest of the NFL have been laughing at the giants since they drafted him. Why do you guys assume a guy who can't play can be successful anywhere else? The giants realized their mistake, and now they're trying to get back to winning. Nabors just confirmed the team isnt rallying around him, they're glad he's not the qb anymore.
Giants sign a 3 yr vet QB, in 2 yrs Draft Chris Manning.... who will hold out like Eli for the Giants to trade for him. Happened once... what a perfect followup.
I agree with giving him his freedom, imagine being let go from your job with a severance package and you have to show up to work and stand around for 7 weeks! Good Luck in free agency !
Only thing about jones to eagles is Tanner McKee is probably better than Pickens & Jones already & is on their roster as “QB3” Jones to the chiefs for the ring as a better locker room guy than Wentz with similar skill level
Danny Dime was my favorite NYG of all time up there with Saquon and Toomer. I've in my 40s and been watching the NYG since the time of Lawrence Taylor. Said day for the NYG - the NYG just about lost what was left of its heart and soul.
DJ and his agent really are manipulative people. Plant the story about scout team safety, that weird letter and then requesting a release just as Brock Purdy injury news is made public. Now the media are trying to be sympathetic towards him. He SUCKED. And the narrative is that we were avoiding the injury guarantee lol
I said this same thing earlier. They are playing 5D chess though and Schoen and the Giants are playing checkers against them. They dominate them at every turn.
I mean I’m an eagles fan the giants haven’t really put good seasons together in a long time even with Eli they went what 9-7 squeaked in and caught fire and won super bowls it also doesn’t help when Dallas and Philadelphia have been better as far as culture goes look I miss those classic eagle giant rivalry games when the scores were close I looked forward to it i don’t like to win easy in the division don’t get me wrong watching beat downs is fun but it’s not like competitive close games
The giants have been stable tge past 3 yrs made the playoffs once and look at dans numbers that yr. Horrible, they made tge playoffs cuz of the coach. Last yr dan was even worse and couldn't stay healthy. This yr a little better but still way not enough. Giants gm has done a great job picking in tge draft. Where they were before schoen to now is a way better situation. Giants are in good shape.
Lest stop i dont wish him bad but come on , lets stop , lets be real the scouts said his issues before he was drafted and we see the same issues going on year 7 no anticipation, horrible awareness and late antispation, you either have it or you dont
What in the world is going on! DJ got his chance but he sucked and we needed to move on. He signed that contract with injury guarantee so he knew that what ended up happening was a possibility. He's not a victim here. Kudos to him but his class but class doesn't win you games.
The Giants miss manage and fail. You know who doesn't miss manage or fail? BBB, thats who! So show that support in this abortion of a season and hit that thumbs up!
What if he tore his….. as a practice squad S??? He should’ve been 1000 yards from the field!!! They dropped him down to protect 23 million- then threw him out there? C’mon. Stupid.
If he goes to another team and plays great everyone in the building should be fired immediately. Doubt that happens but if it does it makes Joe and dabol look like idiots
Yeah we treating him horrible we treat young real good talented players horrible, Eli Manning Saquon Barkley, Sterling Shepard, winning in tampa , contributing, Ingram a top TE in the lesgue, veterans, KG, Waller, wasnt trying to get there carrer injured, by this guy throwing the ball into defenders. Taking a big hit , God himself knows and sees hes not a startung NFL QB he makes guys worst , Eli made guys great
I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist on more sombre facial expressions. The great Daniel Jones has been cast into decrepitude and crushing poverty through no fault of his own, and here you sit with your relaxed facial features not folded in even remotely the correct frowns, or dare I even say it: wearing smiles! I'm just terribly disappointed in you both...
Hilarious, I’m a lifelong, diehard Giants fan at 45. Jones will have success outside the NYFG. Our org is just simply dysfunctional, a house of horrors! Management incompetence/instability messed this dude up! Like Eli in his career, Jones became shell shocked. A change of scenery will exercise his demons.
Leave it to the media to make this into a mess HE WAS GIVEN CHANCES HE SUCKED
Seriously, everyone is making this look like a eulogy and we are doing him wrong when he did us wrong with his atrocious play
Way to many chances his ball placement is horrible, he can't lead a receiver on 10/15 routes , he getting guys killed
BBB awesome as always. Thank you for bringing on Mason he explained everything to a tee! 👍
Great job to all ! Shout out to NYGMason for breaking down the contract stuff. Didn't know some of the intricacies of the situation.
It's a New Day...A New Era but I was a little sad for the human. He definitely gave his all and it just wasn't enough for this Organization. I will say his character is top notch. It's unfortunate he couldn't getvthe results we needed
Well said bro
You guys are my go-to for this stuff. You never disappoint!
Thank you, Keith!
I haven't watched this yet but I bet this is the happiest day of Dan Schneiers life!!
No, that was Super Bowl 42. The Giants are still a mess at QB, hard to be happy at all, really.
time to be happy, this is progress, simply the next step in the process towards GLORY! imo. just as ditching Barkley was (and I'm a DJ lover but it clearly wasn't working)
I’ll be happy again when this team gets closer to a Super Bowl 42 moment not when they decide four years too late to move on from a prospect like DJ
@@danschneier513
Wait until Ward throws 3int week one next year! The pitchforks will come out again!
I can't believe the Media. Let's talk numbers. First number 2-8. OK, you don't have to go any further.
Pat Leonard over exaggerates for his own ratings. The Giants did not do wrong by Daniel Jones. In fact the Giants kept Daniel Jones too long because of that contract. We wish him all the best. if he ends up at Philly, so be it somehow I don’t think he’s going to miraculously change into a franchise quarterback, but I wish him well.
Been watching BBB since around the end of last season. You guys are awesome! Love the all-22 film studies and it’s clear you guys know your shit and put a lot of hard work into this.
Such a shame that you have to cover this abysmal season we’re having. Just know that you still have fans that will enjoy your content regardless of how the team performs year in and year out! Keep it up Dan and Nick!
Thank you for this
Thanks guys - good episode!!
Man that was such a great pod!
Thank you! Appreciate this support.
The victimization of Daniel Jones needs to be a study of Stockholm Syndrome
Great job as always!
Good podcast guys. I enjoyed listening to Mason breaking down the contract and cap. He's good at the banter, he should come back on if he wants to.
Thankful this era of giants football is over.
Commenting for the algorithm! Keep it going BBB through another rough season!
Top notch episode. Mason just dropped knowledge! He def needs to be a repeat guest.
Great show fellas! Good job Mason!
Appreciate this episode, this was my first question when the news broke.. what about the cap! Happy to hear all about it
Great guest! Great explanation of implications of release, waivers and then if he's signed as FA.
Just wanted to say I recently discovered you guys and are already one of my favorite giants channels. You guys are intelligent and think the same way I do about this franchise, look forward to more content 😊
Thank you! Appreciate this. Can I ask how you discovered the show? We’re looking for how to expand to diff people
But you guys are VERY informed and precise on your coverage.
Great pod as always. Wish Jones the best and hope he finds success. Great person, just lacking the performance. Your All-22 breakdowns confirm this and no one that watches this pod will think the Giants did bad by him. Proof is in the film. I’m also a big fan of Winston, wanted the Giants to get him last off-season!! Hopefully DeVito doesn’t ruin our chances again this year of getting a franchise QB…if there even is one in this draft???
Everyone send a like for content like this. They deserve it!!!
Anticipatory, accurate throws not possible for him constantly. Best offensive minds try to pick QBs with those traits. Plus arm is bonus. A little wiggle is necessary. DJ doesn’t have most necessary traits for those guys imo.
Giants media is delusional. Surprised this organisation made this decision. I guess it bodes well for future Giant free agent signings?
It’s a rebuild. Get in on the ground floor, we’re heading up with 2 new QBs (1 draft, 1 bridge) and another FA.
Good information
Love your thoughtful analysis and sincere critique. This is just something from my end. Not everyone is on Twitter, aka X, so things that are said there and posted there not all of us see so when you make references to things that you guys post there some of your audience doesn’t get it, just saying
Fair point. We will clarify moving forward.
No you said it correct the nightmare is finally over
Looking for the Pat Leonard reply then realized the s stirrer is blocked 😂
Been looking for this ramifications over DJ contract situation video.
Wow, guys. Crazy potential scenarios for Jones, who could very well find his place in the league as a solid #2. If he does go to the Eagles, it's possible that Jones could play against the Giants in the last game of the year, if the Eagles have won the division, decide to sit Hurts, and Jones slips ahead of Pickett on the depth chart... How surreal it would be to see Jones handing off to Saquon with both of them dressed in green.
No we don’t want jones he’s terrible I don’t think jones plays in the nfl after this contract
The scout team thing to me sounds like Daboll and the coaching staff asked Daniel or found something for him to still be part of practice so he didn't feel left out. The benching is a business decision obviously, and everything else about this is the Giants taking care of someone who was seen as a star player for them.
The only thing you need to know,jones was 24-44-1…I wanted jones traded after the 2019 season,you could tell back then,he was a deer in the headlights,I wanted Herbert in 2020 draft
It's unbelievably sad that Daboll tells Nabers that Tommy throws before he get out of his break. So be ready as compared with Jones, who waits till after the break, then hesitates, then throws. One slight problem, Tommy has a high school arm and needs high heeled shoes to see over the lineman.
He said that? Wow
It's amazing to me how the media/rubes narrative is now that the Giants are the bad organization that "ruined" Daniel Jones. Just last week they were calling him trash lol
Best fit for DJ for the balance of this season is the Buffalo Bills. He's familiar with the offense, although longterm maybe the Panthers.
The Giants should have never had Jones line up as a scout team safety. He was better suited as a scout team place kick holder.
The night I knew Jones was going to be a very bad QB? The night he was drafted! Saw him play at Duke vs UNC, my alma mater, and never, ever, ever thought he was starting QB material in the NFL. Finally, the curse of Daniel Jones is over!!! Six years down the drain, it's disgusting.
Forgot to hit like until coach coughlin told me to
A week from today there will only be 5 games, 20 quarters to go.
Dan, SF being a landing spot for Jones makes a lot of sense. Does it concern you at all that Dabs was unable to rewire Jones’s brain?
To some extent, yes. I think about this sometimes and if it’s a sign Daboll isn’t the guy. Tough call for me since idk how much is on jones himself.
@ thank you for the reply. I have some big concerns about Dabs.
We have Malik Nabers. Throw him the damn ball. Nobody misses Saquon.
I will cheer for Daniel jones still I won't for Saquon Barkley
Just a sad situation all around.
If you prorated DJ’s rookie season (dropping some fumbles)-(12 games) over 16 seasons:
51,000 yards 384td 192 int
4,800r yards 32 tds
Would rank just behind Eli, who admittedly was never a top 5 QB (except for post season).
PLUS- everything clicked for Simms year 7 on… but you guys didn’t see him play.
Let’s be real, they aren’t trying to win any games for the remainder of this season. They put in Devito to fully ensure they will not win any games by skipping Drew Lock on the depth chart
He will win more games than jones
I knew 100% Jones wouldn’t not be on the sideline this Sunday.
I love it
Why would any winning organization bring Daniel Jones in? For what? The eagles and the rest of the NFL have been laughing at the giants since they drafted him. Why do you guys assume a guy who can't play can be successful anywhere else? The giants realized their mistake, and now they're trying to get back to winning. Nabors just confirmed the team isnt rallying around him, they're glad he's not the qb anymore.
Giants sign a 3 yr vet QB, in 2 yrs Draft Chris Manning.... who will hold out like Eli for the Giants to trade for him. Happened once... what a perfect followup.
What about the Colts.
Helping Richardson learn to be a pro. Or Denver help Nix
I agree with giving him his freedom, imagine being let go from your job with a severance package and you have to show up to work and stand around for 7 weeks!
Good Luck in free agency !
Imagine getting paid millions to do nothing? How horrible!
He took his ball and went home. Russell Wilson got treated worse and was a model pro in Denver. Why couldn’t DJ do the same?
Only thing about jones to eagles is Tanner McKee is probably better than Pickens & Jones already & is on their roster as “QB3” Jones to the chiefs for the ring as a better locker room guy than Wentz with similar skill level
Danny Dime was my favorite NYG of all time up there with Saquon and Toomer.
I've in my 40s and been watching the NYG since the time of Lawrence Taylor.
Said day for the NYG - the NYG just about lost what was left of its heart and soul.
Most players who leave the giants do better.
Engram
Will Hernandez
Bj hill
Sheppard
Shep is washed.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014yet he’s playing better than he did on the backend of his giants stint
So, what is the Dead Cap again?
Can they get out of paying that?
No, they can't.
2024: $47.1M (was on books anyway when under contract)
2025: $22.2M
Giants save $19.4 on next year's cap.
DJ and his agent really are manipulative people. Plant the story about scout team safety, that weird letter and then requesting a release just as Brock Purdy injury news is made public.
Now the media are trying to be sympathetic towards him. He SUCKED. And the narrative is that we were avoiding the injury guarantee lol
I said this same thing earlier. They are playing 5D chess though and Schoen and the Giants are playing checkers against them. They dominate them at every turn.
Yeah, the fact he got that contract in the first place is wild
😂 there isn't a chance in hell DJ is going to be earning a team a comp pick
Oh…so! You know Simms would’ve been gone in 5/6 years in current day NFL. (Social media, etc…)And that would’ve been a shame.
I mean I’m an eagles fan the giants haven’t really put good seasons together in a long time even with Eli they went what 9-7 squeaked in and caught fire and won super bowls it also doesn’t help when Dallas and Philadelphia have been better as far as culture goes look I miss those classic eagle giant rivalry games when the scores were close I looked forward to it i don’t like to win easy in the division don’t get me wrong watching beat downs is fun but it’s not like competitive close games
Denver Broncos, Sean Payton, Davis Webb, use him as a Tysom Hill change up for Nix.
He’s not even that fast anymore
What veteran QB options do you see the Giants possibly pursuing?
The giants have been stable tge past 3 yrs made the playoffs once and look at dans numbers that yr. Horrible, they made tge playoffs cuz of the coach. Last yr dan was even worse and couldn't stay healthy. This yr a little better but still way not enough.
Giants gm has done a great job picking in tge draft. Where they were before schoen to now is a way better situation. Giants are in good shape.
Let’s go cam ward
Lest stop i dont wish him bad but come on , lets stop , lets be real the scouts said his issues before he was drafted and we see the same issues going on year 7 no anticipation, horrible awareness and late antispation, you either have it or you dont
Daniel Jones might not be the problem. Coach Daboll might be more responsible for the mess than Jones.
Jones is about to get his third coach fired. It’s Jones trust me. He’s trash.
No he is the problem
Pat Leonard is such a click bait snake 🐍
Finally I get to enjoy you guys without DJ being involved in future analysis.
I heard if you like and subscribe and like this comment the Giants will actually be a competitive team with a franchise QB in the next 2 seasons!
My man! Thank you for your support
Jones, great locker room guy, unfortunately an extremely crappy game guy.
Very dubious about Nick's points. Players will go where they can get money. Players signed with Washington BEFORE they drafted Daniels.
The giants organization is very stand-up. Maybe too much so
What in the world is going on! DJ got his chance but he sucked and we needed to move on. He signed that contract with injury guarantee so he knew that what ended up happening was a possibility. He's not a victim here. Kudos to him but his class but class doesn't win you games.
24-44-1. He isn’t the only problem but he’s the main problem. Good riddance
A great day in Giants history now let’s go lose some games
The nightmare would be dj going the the cowboys
They would be great
DJ does not have the 'goods,' never did, sadly...
Jones processes information slightly slower than Joe Biden.
Now NYC football fans can use those gambling apps....
Dj will get signed by Dallas. We get beat in a few weeks. By guess who?
An ultimate optics disaster
@@bigbluebanter1108 Cowboys pick gets worse and ours gets better. Worth it trade off imo
@@kanyethegreatest5115 yep! Gotta look at the big picture
Is DJ playing at RB or TE???
No chance
His daddy jerry will sign him jones to the cowboys
Want nothing to do with darnold he isn't it.
Mason scares me.
The Giants miss manage and fail. You know who doesn't miss manage or fail? BBB, thats who! So show that support in this abortion of a season and hit that thumbs up!
I won't leave a comment.
I don't want Winston. I don't want to have to root for a player who has been accuse by multiple women of sexual assault.
What if he tore his….. as a practice squad S??? He should’ve been 1000 yards from the field!!! They dropped him down to protect 23 million- then threw him out there? C’mon. Stupid.
If he goes to another team and plays great everyone in the building should be fired immediately. Doubt that happens but if it does it makes Joe and dabol look like idiots
Thank you dave gettleman you deserve all the credit
Now I can exhale. What a bizarre trip it was with DJ. Glad it’s over. Thanks for the coverage guys!
Yeah we treating him horrible we treat young real good talented players horrible, Eli Manning Saquon Barkley, Sterling Shepard, winning in tampa , contributing, Ingram a top TE in the lesgue, veterans, KG, Waller, wasnt trying to get there carrer injured, by this guy throwing the ball into defenders. Taking a big hit , God himself knows and sees hes not a startung NFL QB he makes guys worst , Eli made guys great
One nightmare has ended, another has started. Nick is wearing a Mets hat
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to insist on more sombre facial expressions. The great Daniel Jones has been cast into decrepitude and crushing poverty through no fault of his own, and here you sit with your relaxed facial features not folded in even remotely the correct frowns, or dare I even say it: wearing smiles! I'm just terribly disappointed in you both...
😂😂😂
Bra the hate ya got for the man Daniel jones and not the football player is crazy it’s gone b 4 years later ya still gone b speaking onnis man
Hilarious, I’m a lifelong, diehard Giants fan at 45. Jones will have success outside the NYFG. Our org is just simply dysfunctional, a house of horrors! Management incompetence/instability messed this dude up! Like Eli in his career, Jones became shell shocked. A change of scenery will exercise his demons.
Dan looks and sounds like such a clown
You sound like a great human!