*MARTYRS* ruined me | first time watching | movie reaction
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Martyrs is endless chaos and nightmare fuel, but I love it?
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“I like this family” I laughed way harder than I should have 😅
I wish there was more reactions to Martyrs. It's one of the veeery few hyper disturbing movies that is actually great in my opinion and delivers more than just gore for the sake of it. Also, when I went in blind like 10 years ago, I had no idea what to expect and I remember loving how hardly predictable the plot direction was. Anna's actress performance definitely stuck with me as well.
I unfortunately had already seen the ending, but it didn’t take away from the movie for me. I watched for the first time last week and am still thinking about the final sequence
I watched i think it is trash people watch it only for the extreme teror and gore
I wish there was more french extremity movies lol or more Pascal laugier movies
it’s just torture p-0rn for sick people, nothing else
I love how Laura keeps thinking of something optimistic and the movie just ruins it almost immediately every time 😂
"I don't have words for the absolute despair that I feel right now". That perfectly sums it up.
Imagine going to help your friend and ending up like Anna...😭
One of the saddest things about the movie. Anna was a good person. She tried to help her friend, she tried to help that woman she found in the basement. And she paid an unbelievably horrible price for it.
@@LiirThropp2687i cant even imagine really, she should Just called the police, this movie makes me feel bad af
“Okay so the fact that marie is a swimmer is NOT going to be important to us later” 😂😂😂😂 girl im fucking dead… more dead than Marie. You’re hysterical.
Martyrs has never left my head since seeing it years ago.
“Martyrs” is one of the best psychological horror movies ever made ! Now, in the ending, when mademoiselle asks Anna if she has transcended, my guess is that Anna say that yes, she has reached that state of martyrdom herself, after having endured immense physical and psychological torture, abuse and pain. I think she says that she has seen “the other side” but that there was nothing there but a void. Anna asserts that the organisation’s pursuit of answers is futile and that their actions are nothing more than sadistic cruelty.
To me, the movie suggests that mademoiselle’s suicide symbolises her acknowledgement of the futility and moral bankruptcy of the organisation’s pursuit, and her inability to live with the guilt and horror of what she has done. I think taking her own life served as a dramatic climax that emphasises the devastating consequences of their actions and the ultimate failure of their quest for enlightenment.
I found your comment about "shaving someone's hair a quick way of removing their identity" interesting. Mademoiselle removes her makeup, eyelashes etc. right before deleting herself. I'm not sure if there was a parallel being drawn there.
Of course. Mademoiselle kills herself because she all of sudden lost all meaning in life by finding out the definitive answer for something she gave all her life for. After finding out the truth of what happens in the afterlife she is confronted with an emptiness and looses her complete identity (that’s why she is taking her lashes off etc.). That’s also the reason why she tells the guy in front of the bathroom door to „keep doubting“, because she realizes how important it is to have a reason to live. She‘d rather wants her brutal experiments to continue than to present the truth to the people who „worked“ for her. Mademoiselle is not a person per se, because she and her cult are scared people. so scared of the great unknown after death, that they torture women to get a glimpse of certainty for themselves. Telling the truth would cause more harm than letting the torture to continue, because life without any purpose is a Lovecraftian horror.The movie is not about what happens in the afterlife or if there’s one in the first place - the movie is about people loosing all meaning and purpose.
You must know that the director Pascal Laugier wrote the script during a depressive moment in his life. Martyrs is nothing more than a metaphor for exactly this. A Manifest of someone who was so knocked down, that he felt that all the stories in life have been told and he felt no reason to continue. How wrong he (gladly) proved himself in the end after creating such a masterpiece of a movie.
When she said “awe, good things can happen in horrible movies” about Lucy and Anna’s friendship…. My heart broke a little for her knowing what is coming
You're analysis of Martyrs was absolutely spot on, 100% bang on the money. Personally not a horror fan but Martyrs is a real exception for me, probably the best horror film in the past 15 years. Incredible film.
Mad respect for going where few other reactors have gone. And also respect for going with the original French film and not the watered-down American remake.
It takes a special brand of fortitude to get through this movie. It is easily one of the bleakest and most gut wrenching viewing experiences of my life.
I saw it at the North American premiere at the Toronto International Film Fest and it scarred me emotionally for life. Others in the audience had even more visceral reactions. At least one audience member was taken out of the theatre by ambulance.
I still have no idea why the old lady killed herself at the end. Perhaps what she heard was so appealing that she got greedy and decided not to share with the rest? Perhaps it was so disappointing that nothing mattered anymore? Who knows?
All I know is that this movie is not easily forgotten. And Lord knows I’ve tried…
Fun fact: found out from the director at the TIFF screening that the makeup artist that created all that gloriously disgusting carnage (including the climactic ‘skinless look’) died shortly after the film’s release. How’s that for bleak…?
The makeup artist who did this movie is at the level of magnificence I aspire to be... I'm so passionate about makeup, ESPECIALLY realistic gore special effects, and the work done in this movie is some of the most anatomically correct and appallingly accurate I've ever seen, it's truly a masterpiece... I didn't know the artist had passed, I hope where ever they are, they know that their work has inspired some lowly girl from the suburbs to follow her dreams...
Actually, the makeup artist didn't just die; he committed suicide. Bleak doesn't say the half of it!
Deeply disturbing movie. But it's a masterpiece and one of my favorite horror films. It definitely sticks with you after.
As a french speaker i'm SO glad you decided to watch this film in french, that's how it should be experienced :)
Inside 2007 is my favorite French horror movie
Le français, c'est pour les gens qui ont sept langues à avaler à chaque phrase.
“I like this family, they seem sweet” 😭😭
"F*ck off. I'm theorizing." 😂😂 That made me cackle. Definitely subscribing to your channel.
"I want it to be a love story" Yea.... about that....
One of the few horror movies that actually brought me to tears by the end. So brutal and heartbreaking. By the end I just wanted Anna to stop suffering. It's technically a very good movie. But still not one I'd watch often at all.
There’s this guy on UA-cam who did an analysis of the ending, and out of all of the ones I’ve heard so far, his is the most interesting. Many people interpreted the ending as her finding out that there was truly nothing after death, and therefore felt extreme guilt over her entire operation because they took the life out of so many people which ultimately was all for nothing. This would make sense if it weren’t for a few factors. One, if they had done this many times before, there would have to have been duds, or in her words “victims”, that said similar if not the same things before Anna, all of which wouldn’t have been taken seriously because they weren’t experiencing true martyrdom. This organization runs this operation like a scientific experiment, where they record consistent results to come to a conclusion. If others said there was nothing before and that wasn’t enough for her to kill herself, then what makes what Anna the exception at that point? The only exception would be that she experienced true martyrdom to come to same result, but if that’s the first time someone said there was nothing after experiencing true martyrdom, then they would have to do more experiments with the same results in order to come to that conclusion. Mademoiselle hearing that once from a martyr wouldn’t have been enough for her to do that. The second factor is that Mademoiselle saying “keep doubting” before killing herself. Why would she say that if the answer was just nothing? You could argue that she was just trying to spare the hard truth but it wouldn’t make sense to do that at this point because they would’ve known that as a possibility. However, the other interpretation makes the most sense to me. The reason she killed herself and said to “keep doubting” is because Anna revealed the answer to everything too soon. This answer would have been the end to life itself because all of its secrets would be revealed, all paths would be spoiled, and therefore would render the experience useless. It’s like learning everything about a movie or book before watching or reading the material. It makes the experience pointless because you already know everything. So her saying “keep doubting” is basically implying that it’s important not to know.
(Also, I don’t know if the movie had anything to do with queerness or the fear of others looking down on you for being in a queer relationship other then them kissing and being attracted towards one another. Beyond that , I never got that impression, and I don’t know if that was ever intended by the director or not. But it’s an interesting interpretation though.)
She killed herself because she didn’t get what she wanted. She told them to keep doubting because they would despair if they knew the truth.
This is made by someone who thinks a lot about sadistic things. You can tell because it's so perfectly constructed. That's what I think. He didn't have to reach to construct this plot. So I think the end is carefully designed to torture us. To never give an answer, no matter how hard you look at it.
it feels like Passion of the Christ. it's that important
Or "The Last Temptation of Christ."
I'm French and I'm overwhelmed by the fascination this movie gets in other countries. To me, it feels like it gets more love around the world than here, in its homeland. Or at least, it seems more talked about outside of France. Forereigners seem much more traumatized by it than us, who tend to see it as just another horror movie (a very interesting one, though).
Actually, the fact that other countries talk about "French extremity" tells a lot. We don't see it that way, here.
Thanks Laura for indulging me and watching one of my favorite horror movies. I think it's on all those
lists because of the connection you have with the characters, the story that's told, and the hope (
and taking away hope) that it gives you. Also I think it makes sense why anna HAD to go down in the
basement to finally validate that lucie wasn't making it all up (since multiple times in the story
it shows anna wasn't sure if she believed everything lucie was telling her). This movie has stuck
with me for years and will continue to stick with me. I figure October was the perfect time to show
this one to you. I do watch a lot of "gross out" movies (like grotesque and eat)
but I never connect with them as much as a movie like martyrs. I'm glad you found value in the storyline
and didn't see it as just torture porn as most people do. I love the reaction! Thanks!
There's an overwhelming depth of despair to be had when watching this movie, but after seeing it as many times as I have- She wins in the end. She holds all the power, despite what they've done to her. She tells mademoiselle just a few words, and she fucking kills herself.
It's easy to conclude that her suffering was for nothing, and it was, but in the small way she could, she won.
I always see the ending not as there being nothing like so many people do. Some people also say that there's a hell and that's where mademoiselle is going, and that's why she kills herself. I think she kills herself because Anna doesn't tell her. There's no way Anna would tell her what she wants to know.
This one sent chills up my spine, literally. The first half was.....what the fu*k. The second half was....WHAT...THE...FU*K. How do people like torture-porn?
This movie completely traumatized me, because I watched it with my siblings for the first time in my life when I was just about 7 years old (We got it from a friend, we didn’t know what the movie was) until today, I still can’t watch the whole movie at once, I always need to stop a few times before I continue watching. The reason why I say it did traumatize me, is because the impact it caused as such a young age. Even tho I am 23 years old now, still can’t watch the whole thing at once, causes things to my body, stomach, etc, I even have nightmares because of it or every time I tried watching it. Still say it is a great an cruel movie, if you have guts, I would say watch it
"I'm so uncomfortable". Yeah, that's the whole point
This director, just like the dude who directed Hereditary, is really good in making people feel like that and is their intention to do so
What about Serbian Film?
@@nsasupporter7557 that was made purely to shock people. Same applies to 120 Days of Sodom or whatever is its title in English (iirc the movie is Italian)
Cannibal Holocaust goes down said path too btw
There's Irreversible, a French movie from 2001 or 2002, that can bothers people quite a lot. But it also can be a major trigger, specially for women
Requiem For a Dream is another baseball bat against your head if you ask me, specially if the person watching has/had any problem involving substance abuse
None of these are Horror tho, but neither is Martyrs imo
I think anybody who calls this movie "torture porn" is missing the point completely. I have seen Saw. I've seen the Human Centipede, I Spit on Your Grave.... This is not torture porn. Hell, even the Passion of the Christ was more torture porn than Martyrs lol. I don't like gratuitous violence, or I avoid it where possible (if you're a movie person, sometimes it's unavoidable). It's hard to stomach for sure, but all in all I find this movie, as horrible and depressing as it is, actually beautiful. It's a masterpiece imo
Movie Marathon
1. Altered States
2. The Beyond
3. From Beyond
4. The Void
5. Hellraiser
6. Event Horizon
7. The Evil Dead
8. Lord of Illusions
9. Martyrs
10. Phantasm
11. Baskin
This film really messed me up, I watched it about 5 years ago and for some crazy reason I decided to watch it again about 2 years later, thinking maybe it wouldn't be so bad second time round I suppose, but nope, even though I knew what was going to happen it still messed me up the same, maybe even more than the first. It's beautifully shot and there are no filler scenes at all, everything is there for a reason, it's a masterpiece in my opinion. But it's so disturbing, so depressing and so anxiety inducing, I felt on edge the whole way through, it's one horror film I'm scared of recommending to people because of how well the director did everything. Even thinking about this film years later I feel anxious and start to feel on edge a little. Great review.
Welcome to the club! I know this movie can be painful, but watching it truly gave me a new sense of empathy. It's horrible, but very captivating
Just watched this movie
And when anna where she lost her mind and start to talking to herself made me mad and sad at th same time.
The end, to me, is meta. Anna sacrifices herself by giving the organization what it wants and tells what she saw, thereby ending the violence, but mademoiselle offing herself negates that so that they must continue. Mademoiselle killing herself doesn't serve any goal in the story but only to the viewer.
This movie still haunt's me 😢
While Lucie is in love with Anna, the idea of destrying the nuclear familly and the coming out was not at all the intention of the movie.
It is never a good idea to watch a movie made in another time and another culture with our own present eyes and assume that the message is exactly the same that we'll like it to be.
So no, the movie is not a gay romance, even though the romance is indeed present.
Until today there is speculation to what Anna said to Mademoiselle and why she shot herself.
The film is a tough watch, no doubt.
yeah it had nothing to do with being gay lol Anna is clearly in love with Lucie but i didn't see lucie being in love with her. anna kisses her and she pushes her away immeditaely
This was more of an experience than it was a movie.
Every single friend I recommended this to had such a haunted look after watching it.
This movie completely made me desensitized to horror movies...no matter what I watched I always went "well it could be worse" not even Hostel affected me
Your patrons are real jerks to make you watch Martyrs lol. That being said it’s a very well-made film that I don’t recommend to anybody! When I first saw it I had to binge Golden Girls afterwards to feel better. 🤣
I think Anna whispered all the beauty of what she saw but then said “But you won’t get to see it because you and your friends are going to Hell. Let me tell you about that...” 🤣🤣🤣
Love that for Anna lmao
In my defense, I had known Laura had watched and enjoyed titane and raw which are pretty hardcore movies in their own rights. So I knew she could handle this one lol
I saw the movie yesterday and I regret it. It hurts to see that there is no salvation for Anna😢 heart Break movie. this desperation and hopelessness is bizarre You don't get anything out of watching this film unless you're into not wanting to help when someone is being tortured or I'm too sensitive
I like to think that the images in the ending credits are Anna's version of heaven
I will NEVER watch this movie so thanks for this video. I like to think that Anna said "You will always live with what you've done. There is no peace and you will never be forgiven" or something like that.
I recommended this film to a friend. Let's just say he didn't appreciate my recommendation. Thanks for the video.
Btw, if you think this one ruined you, you probably haven't seen Irreversible.
I have not…but I’m curious about it now lol
@@laurashawnlee it's more realistic and depicts varius scenes of r*pe and realistic body injuries
@@laurashawnlee btw I just noticed that Irreversible is currently available to stream on AMC + 👹
My theory is it was good and personal to Mms. Good because why else would she rush there, and personal because otherwise, they wouldn't believe Anna. However, the truth, no matter how beautiful, stole her purpose in this life, and she didn't want to steal it from her followers.
I don't think it was guilt because she would have told the others if it was. And if it was bad, why rush there?
I like that theory, and probably prefer it. I guess the only reason why she would “rush” if it were bad would maybe be because she couldn’t stand living with that knowledge (that no matter what she did in life, her afterlife would be futile, basically)
@@laurashawnlee That's possible, and if her followers can't avoid it either that might work out
It could also mean it invalidated life as she understood it. Making her continued life, her entire life’s work of discovering this truth something that she doesn’t care to share with her own cult members.
I like one theory that what Anna said meant nothing. That it was just the ramblings of someone whose entire nervous system was destroyed and made the Madame realize that everything she’s ever worked for has been in vain. So she gives up entirely. And she tells the others to keep doubting because it’s the hope of something amazing after death that gave them all purpose, but the answer to her big question not only made her purposeless, but wholly evil.
If it was good, why hide it from the others and perpetuate the other cult members activities? She got what she wanted so why let it continue after she’s gone? I feel it contradicts how dedicated they are discovering this, like when the Madame says that they are “researchers”.
I agree with the answer depriving her followers of purpose, but I don’t she heard anything that pleased her.
There’s another theory that the Madame did like what she heard, but that whatever Anna told her was a lie to trick her into ending her life and entering some kind of eternal nightmare. Which I don’t think is the case because Anna isn’t really herself anymore at the end but I like the idea still. I guess I don’t like the idea that the Madame got her answer and was satisfied with it, I feel the movie is so dark and grim it just doesn’t fit, and there’s more ironic justice imo if she lost everything at the end.
This movie brought me a feeling of despair i never felt
I literally just watched this film, and what I can say is that for me it was an unforgettable experience, a masterpiece of horror.
I would’ve just wrapped the chains around my neck while chained up and peace out.
Before we even get into the reaction itself, I need to say: When I searched “Martyrs Reaction” and this video came up, I screamed! I was like, “SHE reacted to it?! OMG! I NEED to watch.
I also appreciate the queer lens you’re watching this film with, as I also did and I think I definitely came away from it with a slightly different takeaway than a lot of other people.
Please checkout "The Woman" and "Frontiers"
You should also watch inside (2007) another disturbing French horror movie
I like your interpretation of the ending that the afterlife is beyond our comprehension. The more I watch reactions of this movie the more I feel like it's definitely a Lovecraftian ending. Even the cult aspect matches a lot of Lovecraftian lore...
I first heard about this movie in 2013. I only managed last Sunday. I was too scared to do it!!!
Brilliant movie, amazing effects, flawless acting. And the ending... Well you know all about that!
I suggest you watch the following films:
my little princess 2011
Look Away, 2018
Girl in the Basement 2021
Brimstone 2016
Compliance, 2012
Miss Violence 2013
Hounddog 2007
The Red Turtle
16:26 literally the definition of a martyr, at least for me.
Great reaction! I could highly recommend you another french gem: Inside/À l'intérieur 2007.
Found your channel from this reaction and have binged everything since 😂 Love you horror reactions ❤
It's actually rare for gory American movies to be good, I usually prefer japanese ones (especially older movies) but this french one is quite good at what it does so I guess european movies are as good as japanese ones in the horror/gore department
I usually watch only one genre of French movies...wich is gay, they do it really well and quite often
Me too!!!! I thought Lucy was absolutely beautiful ❤
This movie popped up on my home page and I decided to watch it even though I've heard about it, I was so nervous! It was so disturbing but so good at the same time.
Brutal movie. When you think it possibly can't get any worse, it does lol
Martyrs is the best movie that I have no intention of ever watching again.
This is film has great gore...
I feel bad for you😢 I watched it i think back in june 2008 with no reviews on internet 😵took me 3 days to finish it.
That was fucking awesome.
I discovered you're channel through the movie ENTER THE VOID and this is the 2nd video I've seen from you. I'm in.
My all-time fave film, loved watching it with you.
Saint Maude, and Incident in a Ghostland, may be worth a watch, for you.
can you tell me where you watch this please
She's like a French Pocahontas
ilikedd your reaction alot ! ive watched a couple and there all good but i related so much to yoursss ..
this movie fucked me up im srill stuck on lucie but dayum its a good movie as well
This movie is essentially the same plot as Napoleon Dynamite
"Curious to see how much this movie is potentially about the idea of not being straight and that creating inner demons" - you're absolutely right, "being gay and having to fight against society... and people that don't support being anything but straight" - that's what MARTYRS is all about. It's just a metaphor of being gay and in love with a person who's thought to be straight and she died before her coming out. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Anna’s not dead?
@@sur_eal Anna? Lucie is the one.
Your reaction is literally how I reacted when I first watched this film. Like word for word
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I had nightmares.
Lucie is a psychopath
i'm not a fan at all of the torture porn ending but the home invasion scenes were well done.
Why are your Patrons hating you that much? lol!
Good on you for braving through this movie. This one is so bleak and depressing.
Fantastic review and reaction, always enjoy seeing this movie get some love.
Wow, this movie is rough. Its hard to watch
The story is...there is no such thing as superatural.....its all real people that live right next to you
How's it going?
And thats the queen England interne
thx for the reaction really enjoyed it.
Can't wait for my requests
You honestly can judge people by their reaction to this film.
thought they were sisters hrm you put a different spin on it for me :)
You must also make a reaction for Inside and High tension french film. 😅
Seen this movie it's quite traumatizing but I love the idea , it's brilliant .
Quite movie !
as a grown ass man who has lots of horror games and movies under his belt, this still disturbed me to hell and back
pascal laugieir' s The Tall Man?
I liked your reaction but I found it unnecessary for you talking about them being a couple so much. Yes they were at least kinda in love and yes annas mom didn't like Lucie because she found Lucie was crazy, wich in some way : she was because she had seveeeeeere ptsd ...BUT this movie is in no shape or form some gay Propaganda nor pointing out that "gays have it bad in a straight society" ...that's just untrue and a bullshit stance. Literally no one cares about if you're gay or not especially in the area this movie was created in. The same area I live in. Europe.
And yes I do 10000000% agree with you that the actress playing Lucie is extremely beautiful. Especially her eyes. When she died I was kinda pissed off at first because I really got to like this actress immediately and I wanted to see more of her performance.
All in all. Keep up your reactions. You're doing great 👍
Wow, aren't we gays lucky to have you around to tell us what it's like to live our lives? And congrats for living in Europe. Too bad this film was made in North America; Canada, to be exact. But the poster is from the United States, like me. In THIS country, there have been about 150 laws passed in the last year restricting the rights of gay people. And the cretinous anti-gay movement is gaining steam in Canada even as I type these words. But I guess that's a 'bullshit stance' and we're all just imagining it. Also she never said the movie is propaganda, but from the general low quality of your comment I doubt you could define propaganda, let alone identify it on your own. Furthermore, every work of art is open to interpretation notwithstanding the intentions of the artist; everyone has a right to read what they want into anything. You clearly don't understand how critical analysis works. I love when Europeans try to come on like they're so much smarter than Americans, when clearly on average it's about the same everywhere: lots of dummies, and a few decently intelligent people.
@@findlesplurb wow are you gays really that hateful and stupid ? U know I could argue but your hate filled nonsensical rant already shows I would hit a wall with my arguments.
Nonetheless ill give u some at least. ... first. Stop blaming you're a victim. You're just silly. Nobody cares what sexual orientation you have. Secondly ..no art is lot completely open for interpretation. There's a frame to it in wich you have to move .... for example. If we look at who pascal laugier is as a person, where the film was made ...and tho it was shot partly in Canada its still a French production from French people written by a French guy ... and then when it was produced and keep in mind the political situation back then. ....its fucking obvious that them being in love was never meant as some kind of, sorry to call it like that but .. : gay Propaganda.
And oh i do mean what Propaganda means ..its just my metaphorical way of calling out the objectively existing virtue signaling that happens all the time nowadays especially regarding left extremism.
Its obvious this element of the film was just there to give the characters a bit more depth. Its not meant to be an integral part of the artwork.
If you wanna see a film that actually deals with topics like feminism and being gay in an unaccepting world ... go watch the 2015 japanese horror film TAG. Its by one of Japans most creative directors. Sion Sono
okay i'm only ten minutes into the video but where the fuck have i been while this channel was going? someone who reacts to controversial media and earnestly attempts to analyze it within a framework that questions gender, sexuality, and social roles? holy shit
edit: after finishing the whole video, i have to add that the editing is excellent. like this is genuinely fun to watch. you deserve so many viewers and i'm proud to be one
I watched the movie once back then and I regret that I wasted my time on it.
I really love horror, from spooky-paranormal to jumpscare to gory stuff. Yet there are a few movies that I refuse to give a thumbs up and that I find absolutely unnecessary and digusting. Martyrs is one of those. I didn't even care how interesting the movie started (bc I thought it was kinda interesting), but what it became in the second half was just terrible. Also the conclusion and ending left me 0% satisfied and actually kind of annoyed too. But that's just me, so..
I definitely see how it isn’t for everyone. Had I not been so invested in some of the theories the movie made me think of, I would be in the same point. It’s a tough movie for sure.
I watched this last month after hearing about it and I don't understand most reactions to it. I can accept ghosts and nearly unstoppable killers but the premise of this movie is so ridiculous I couldn't take it seriously and I found the violence more comical than anything.
Your loss
You're woke. Why you have few subs.
I like this family....(read very very slowly and growly) 😂