WE WERE WRONG About Milestar Patagonia M/T Tires!
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2020
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We'll be the first to admit that we aren't adults, let alone professionals. So when we're wrong about something, like we were about the Milestar Patagonia M/T tires, we'll be the first to admit it.
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I messed with lower pressures early on but found higher pressures handled better, were quieter, and got better mileage. Settled at 34psi until the rebalance at a better Discount Tire, and have left them at 36psi since. Thanks for the update. Gives me hope that they will also last longer.
Love the honesty!!! I love that you guys show us your breaks and breakdowns, cause it happens to all of us. There are some channels that would never admit they did something wrong or gave bad advice and then talk crap about the company. Keep up the great work and videos!
Yes - Honesty is good ! 😀
*cough*Wayalife*cough*
Thanks for the update. I just replaced the Pat MT 37’s with new Pat MT 38’s. I was running them a little low on pressure for about 10k miles and did have some uneven wear. I got the dots and stems lined up correctly on this install and now I will have to bump up the PSI.
Thanks for posting 👍
Never knew the "chalk" test was a thing for off-road tires...
In autox...we "chalk" the shoulders to gauge roll-over...
nice update! 😊
Thanks for providing this update. I have a set of Patagonia M/Ts and have noticed that it takes a lot of deflation to get them to lay flat. Now I understand why. I will set the street pressure based on your updated info.
Thanks for this info! I was wondering why my tires were starting to cup and are noisier than when I first got them. I figured it was due to the soft compound wearing down but your explanations make perfect sense! Thanks again!
I've always set my tire pressure by wet road traction. Many times the manufacturers spec results in loss of traction in the wet. I've also discovered that sometimes the specified pressure results in a very poor ride. This was especially the case with my Mini Cooper. Spec was 32 PSI. The best ride was at 42, which also improved the traction significantly.
I run 35psi in my Milestar MT's on my ZR2. I've been pretty happy with the wear.
Wait a minute... You guys told us something that was wrong... Then you actually get on camera and admit what you did... and then give us the corrected information ??? Wow! So you are real human people after all. :-) Thank you for a really amazing example of honesty and integrity.
Hey guys, just wanted to say thank you for your videos. As a first responder working 60+ hours a week and dealing with this coronavirus crisis it's nice to just watch your videos and get away from all the stress. It feels normal for just a few minutes, and I thank you for that bit of normalcy. I love your videos and get some great ideas for my 2018 JL. Keep them coming and be careful out there in your travels. Gods speed, Firefighter/EMT Jason Manns, Harlan, KY
Thank YOU for everything that you do! I hope you’re getting some well deserved rest here and there!
BRILLIANT! I wondered why my new tires suddenly got loud and began feathering shortly after I reduced the pressure. BTW, I can offer an old archery trick to check for arrow clearance on the shelf that works great for determining tire contact patterns too instead of chalk... Foot powder spray. Trust me, it’s a lot easier and faster.
Good to see y'all again! 28,000 on my Patagonia M/T's (265-70x17) on a Jeep WK Hemi. Daily Driver, mixed city and freeway plus occasional off road. Started with 19/32nds tread depth, now at 9/32nds. I'm impressed! Can't wait to wear them out so I can go to 33's! Can't get any bigger without more lift and cutting. Read all the "comments" (all 166 so far) and I'm getting an education.
Tire shop put 28psi in at first, but they sang like Bagpipes above 45mph. Raised the pressure to 36 and they're much quieter. Kept watching your videos, along with some others and ended up with the off-road bug! That's why we met at TrailHero on WestRim trail. Great Time! LiteBriteNationGetsTired!
Those all terrains look like a killer trad pattern. I’ll be very curious to hear how they do when you get into some rain and snow!
Out of curiosity, how does running on only the center treads of the M/Ts affect tire temperatures on the road? Won’t that overheat the centers?
Thanks for the update! Always good to work with the MFG to pass on right information. 👍
Oof. I nearly panicked after seeing this title. Just put a set of these on my Suzuki samurai and your review was what made me buy them.
Samurai!
Just an entertaining side note - RC4WD makes little 1/10th scale Milestar tires for your radio control Jeeps - they have the M/T and A/T, incredible detailing on the tread and sidewall
Thanks for the information & your honesty.
I thought that you already knew about using a block. Though, that only works when the outside tire has to be replaced. It's a good idea to angle @ least 1 end. That makes it easier to drive up on.
Take care.
Great info! The St. "Barnyard" was hilarious! 😜
I’ve been running Milestars since 2016. Hands down the best tire I have ever used. I had them on my Jeep and on my F350 4x4 diesel. No problems at anytime with these tires. Y’all certainly picked some good ones! Much love from Louisiana.
What psi do you run them on your f350?
It great how you guys correct yourselves and let everyone know it. You're the best to of people to learn from
This is awesome! I didn’t know there was such a thing as a crowned tier. I also saw that Milestar has more road going performance tires probably my next buy!! For all the RV trailer towers be careful with too thick of side wall as it could create a harsher ride which is not ideal. Just research this for our trailer awhile back
Good info I just ordered some 38’s for my JKU And I’ve always ran my tires to about 28 psi on the road
The chalk test is a awesome idea! Its probably been around for a long time,, I just didn't know bout it. Thanks guys for the great info.
You guys are awesome! Thanks for sharing your amazing life with us! And we love you too!!!❤️♥️
How are the XT’s in snow and icy conditions? I really want to get them for my truck but can’t find any reviews on them, an update on them would be awesome thanks!! Awesome content
Good information! Can't wait to see your long term/ mileage test of your truck tires! I'll be needing new tires by then! Thank You! Stay Safe!
Yo - how have these been with hard braking and wet pavement driving for you guys? I'm about to pull the trigger on some 37s for my JLR but my final concern here is how much on-road rubber contact I'm gonna lose compared to my stock KO2s when I'm not out wheeling. The pats seem to be the quietest running tire that still retains MT performance on the trail so I'm pumped to get them on the rig.
Good explanation- Matt (Matt's Off Road Recovery) August 22, 2019 - did a review on these tires - gave them an A+ rating. Also - if you follow Matt's direction and go to Amazon - people were complaining about the tread wearing down - if you look at the pictures in Amazon you will see that it is the same thing you 2 were saying. Thread was wearing down on one side. I was surprised how inexpensive these tires are!
What a Beautiful ST.BERNARD at the end I had one he was a beautiful and best dog ever. R.I.P Sir William Wallace 12/7/19
Would you recommend some milestar m/t 37s for my ram, off-road use on the weekends and daily drive on the weekdays
Ah I didn’t know that about the Patagonias. Just upped my pressure a bit on my JT. Thanks for the update
This may explain why mine seem to be much louder and have been cupping pretty bad. I'll try bumping them up to 32 and see how that goes! I kept meaning to contact Milestar but they didn't really have anything other than email contact info and i never bothered with it....
Ya try 34ish
Glad i saw this. I walked out of the store just a few hours ago with chalk to do my test tomorrow.
Definitely good info. What would you recommend for the thunderer trac grip mt on a f250 lol. I've been playing with pressure. With an uploaded truck I'm at 60psi front and 50 rear. Anything lower it seems to want to wash and wonder.
Thanks for the info. I'm currently looking into Milestar tires for my rig.
I’m getting new truck tires on my Ram when I get back from deployment, I think you guys just changed my mind on what tires I’m getting...
I also had an issue when aired down to sub 30 psi they move quite a bit and can contribute to death wobble. Now I air to 36psi. Good wear and no wobble.
Would you put the XT’s on the Step Child for off roading if it was a 50/50 on off driver?
I run 28PSI in my JLU. When I first bought them they had 38PSI and it felt like I was skating all over the road. How does 28/32/38PSI compare in handling? I'll try 32PSI tomorrow.
Thanks for your honesty. Great personal quality.
Thank you for the info on the tiresias bought them due to your review. Looks like I'm going to have to air up my tires cuz I'm running 25 in mine I run 15 in the rear and 10 in the front offroad
With it being crowned wouldn't it cause unsafe feeling driving on the road in the rain or snow? And I wander what psi I would run them at on 5.9 cummins megacab
Cool tires I work at a landscape company in Illinois we pull heavy skidsteers those trailer tires you put on your trailer would be great for our trailers
Have you guys done a review on the Patagonia XT AT's that you put on your truck yet? I'm getting ready to make take the plunge, but was leaning towards something different. Should I consider the AT's? I'll be hauling my Jeep as well.
Tried the MTs on our GL because of you guys. Love them, they are quite and great wear!
Had me scared by the title, was just getting ready to pull the trigger on a new set of the M/T's and you had me worried.
I know right. There's already a half naked blonde on the channel, is clickbait really necessary?
Gzr Gldr I’m thinking I’m going to grab a set as well.
So if the tire pressure is kept at the correct pressure, what kind of mileage should be expected?
I feel better. The chalk test had me at 27PSI. Also handling felt very soft. Gas mileage, handling and noise was better at 35psi for on road. Beadlocks I air down to 13psi. Yes, I can go lower, but we have more sand and mud than rocks.
a question for you, I just got 40" Milestar with Metalcloak JL left kit with front and back metal bumpers and winch and ultimate 60s front and back on my JL. What tire pressure do you use on your milestar 40" before on road?
I noticed the new valve stems have a hex pattern on the inside to use an allen wrench to hold it while you tighten the outside nut. I see the techs used a vise grip to hold it an marred the stem. Great information on the "Chalk Test" for a crowned tire. I am curious what the blue and orange lines on the tire are for? Thank You!!!
Tony
The vice grips shocked me. As did the guy fumbling with one bar trying to set that tire.
Just my input for off road psi. For my TJ with no beadlock, 15 psi is too high for me. I run 10~12 mostly and have not lost a bead. And if you do, just re-seat it or use your spare. I did run 8 psi recently on a very iced over trail. Different terrain and driving techniques would have an impact. I'll probably pop my bead next time out now :(
woo! love your videos thanks for the content we're learning along with you lol
So do you not recommend this tire anymore or are you saying don’t run lower Psi for on road use? Is it still a good tire if you run 35 psi on road and 15psi off road?
I don't have these tires, but I appreciate that you folks corrected the information. Thumbs up, guys.
Great info. I have been looking at getting a set for my truck!
I’m planning on purchasing the MT Patagonia on my 2014 Gen 1 Raptor , the size I’m going for is 40x13.5r17 is it safe to go with a 35-37 PSI with that size of tire on a heavy truck on the highway ?
I'm considering a Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, which run stock 265/70R17 M/T wheels/tires. I was initially looking at the Sahara because I do mostly on-road highway driving, but want the diesel and they just aren't available, a Rubicon is. Would these Milestars be a decent replacement for road driving (I assume since they're M/T, they will perform off-road)?
Me and the wife run 33x12.50R17 Pat M/T's and no matter what pressure we run they wear uneven and are not quiet at all. Started at 35PSI and now we are running 45PSI still no change.
How well do they do in the snow and what is tread life like?
I went into this like
Oh no my favorite jeep Chanel is about to say they don't like these
Then they just talked about what they accidently said wrong
Super humble guys thnk you
I have these on my truck and my jeep and at the price point they can't be beat I stand by them
I love you guys
Thinking about putting the xt on my truck as well
Great information for buying tires. Hope you guys stay safe. I love the dog at the end he is hilarious.
Great informative video.....awesome that you to give honest and great reviews, and if the iij info was wrong you get the correct info and update everyone. Great piece of mind that all vehicles have new tires from Milestar....Krzy doggie 🐕.....Kevin one more rep 💪...wharly awaiting your next video.....Safe travels
Glad to see you guys have the Not For Hire on the side of your truck now.
It it the same material on all lugs or are the center lugs harder?
So what happens when they wear down to where the outer portion starts wearing? Feathering and abnormal wear, so what’s the point.
Got these tires after your reviews and some others. Running them at 65 psi (max on sidewalls), but I have a 7500 lb GMC Sierra 2500HD....loving the new shoes, wearing nicely, great in mud and snow. Thanks
How many miles did they last or have they lasted?
was looking for tires for my car and found milestar was one of the cheaper tires out there. i usually don't buy the cheaper brands especially for my speed demon but because i saw you guys use them i went ahead and bought a set and they've been great! they look nice and they're quiet.
Considering these for a TJ. Would you expect to run around 30 PSI? Also, have you guys gotten a sponsorship from Patagonia?
Was gonna put the Milestar on my Jeep but opted for the Hankook Dynapro MT2. After serious talks with my tire dealer and consumers go with K0 2's or Dynapro MT 2's for all around driving.
Thanks for the update, got 30k on my MS-MTs with a third of those miles on the sharp rocks of Arizona, great value, great tire. 💥
Good info on tires. And the honesty is great. Not easy to find anyone like that anymore. Be safe ride on...
My vehicle (that I special ordered from the factory with 10 ply tires) recommends 43 psi cold (‘19 Ram quad cab hemi 4x4 classic) but I have found that (FOR ME) 65psi works the best for my uses. My tires are rated up to 80psi so I’m not in danger. I started at 43 and went up in small increments until I found what I liked and works for me.
I am not disagreeing with you. But wouldn’t the center section of the tread eventually wear down and level off the crown? I can’t imagine it would take very long.
I have a two tires that I ran nearly 60k miles and the center is bald, lugs are still solid. Will run them around town until I get to the belts and get some pics or maybe a video of the extreme wear.
Yes. Thats what is going to happen.
Thank Y'All for another great vid!
Was there very many people still on the roads in Oregon or a lot less since the virus started with all the government warnings to stay home as much as possible? I haven't been out of my home and seen the roads around Portland.
I have found that running manufacture pressure (35psi) on a 2 door JK is too high. I get a rolling effect on curves. I dropped mine down to 32psi and now they run perfect. 26,000 miles so far and loving them. 295/70/17
Same thing on my light 2 door.
Thank you I needed to laugh at that dog at the end. I thought mine was dumb but he is clearly outmatched 😂
Kyle Foster dumb dogs are fun.
What song are you using in this video at the beginning and end? KOH was using it on the live feed
I'm so glad I watched this since I just put a new set of the MT's on one of my Mad Max cars and I'm considering putting them on my Cherokee next and I usually like driving around on 15PSI everywhere!
So now all know what pressure to go with since I have on board air on both vehicles it's going to make a world of difference in avoid a buncha headaches knowing about 'crowned' mud terrains on a Crowned Victoria!!!!!! 👍👑🚓💨
Hey got the same tires for my jk 2014 they look good on my jeep your right they are hybrid tires and from what i hear about them is they last .
Tell homie installing the valve stems that you can use an Allen wrench to hold instead of vise grips
Is the crowned vs. flat tread type listed on a tires mfg. specs?
Thanks for the clarification. Nice touch. My biggest beef with the Patagonia is IMO they're hideous. They seem to perform very well but I can't get past what they look like.
So end of story... I can air down these tires when off road? Are they priced similar to KO2's? I have KO2's on my JL with 14k with approx 6/32 of tread. Will replace soon.
OHH Wow! Thankyou so much for this update and correction.
Good information. I like that the tires all match.
What about for a 3/4 ton. My door is 60 front 70 back. Is that too much air? Considering this tire
I noticed my Nittos Trail Grapplers are made the same way you are describing here.
The Saint Bernard got me laughing, we have one as well. His name is DENVER and wont fit into my 2 door JKR anymore unless I remove the rear seat 🤪
I just got the 37-12.5 -17 Mt's for my PowerWagon because of your other video, GLAD I did! And now, with this video, I'm going to positively get those trailer tires for my dump trailer and gooseneck equipment trailer.
How are they lasting on your power wagon?
@@loveracing1988 Right now I'm on my second set. They wear well when rotated and kept over inflated. Max inflation I think is only like 50 I think and when I'm running highway and towing i go with 75 or 80. I pull an 8300 lb excavator inside a 16 foot long 5000 lb Pj dump trailer and never blew one out yet besides all the many miles aired down to 18-22 psi over trail roads and jagged Moab rock. I have gone down as low as 12 psi over sand and snow sand only disbeaded one time when i drove at an angle over a big log on the beach at lake McConaughey. I went to the second set a little prematurely because i ruined my right rear one day when i didn't notice i had ran over a tent spike and then as it was deflating I drove several miles on a 65 mph highway nearly flat and that wrecked the sidewall. My fault because i had a bad tire pressure sensor from that lake disbeading deal and had been ignoring the many warnings of the tpms. I'd say I'm very happy with Patagonias. Just wish they hadn't gone up so much in price the last year. They used to only cost $276 ea, delivered to my door.
Made in Taiwan by the Nankang tire company founded by Japanese engineers. They make a quality product no doubt. They are marketed in the USA by Tireco under the Milestar label.
At first I thought u guys where gonna say these tires are crap.... I have a set of 31' Patagonias on my XJ and they're doing pretty good so far. I run them at around 32 psi on road and the center patch look like its taking most of the wear like you said after 1500 miles. Maybe I'll air em up a bit more. Took em offroad last month and they did awesome!
Been looking at tires for my tow rig...like those xts a lot!
Are other tires designed with a crown?How would you know because milestar does not list that or have the word crown on the web site for the patagonia tire.
You can visible see the curve of the tire (ie it’s rounded across the width rather than flat)
Do you know if Maxxis Razr Mts have a crown? I was not that successful on trying a chalk test on them on my gladiator. Of course I'm new to that so I may have don't it wrong and just abandoned the idea.
So do we get to choose what milestar tire we get if we win the free give away? I put in for 35"s, but I would love to have the XTs for my diesel since I already have 40" MTs on the jeep.
Yes we can arrange that
You guys are funny. I have a 6,000lbs Suburban with 37" Patagonia MTs, run 50psi on highway and 15psi on the trail no bead locks. I did the chalk test 2 years ago when i first got them, aired down to 20psi, and two days driving later fried my power steering pump. It's been 50psi on the road and 15-20psi on the trail since.45,000 miles out of my first set and about 15,000 mi on my second set. And just like you guys, all my vehicles are wearing Milestar tires.
BTW, thatnx for spreading the news and bumping up the price of these. I bought my first set for $824 shipped for all 4, last set ran over a grand.
Anderson Camper Leveler is a cheap and lightweight option to lift a tandem axle trailer to change a flat
I'm wanting to move from 315/75r17 to 35/12.50r18. The 17's are load range D rated and the 18's are f rated. I called Tireco to ask about the ride comfort difference because of the different load rating on the tires and was told several times it SHOULD be no different. I asked even with a heavier sidewall tire? Wouldn't it change the way they air down and tire flexibility. Again SHOULD be the same. Honestly, the two people I spoke to from Tireco had no idea.