A REAL Snow Traction Test | AT vs MT
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
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In today’s video Dustin will educate you on the difference between running mud tires or all-terrain tires in the winter. Putting them through tests such as acceleration, stopping, and agility. Watch along to see which one comes out on top, giving you the best winter option. Remember to package your tires with a set of wheels and have them at your door in 10 days!
0:00 Intro
0:29 Nitto Mud Grappler M/T
1:02 Acceleration Test 1
1:46 Stopping Test 1
2:51 Agility Test 1
3:36 Venom Power Terra Hunter X/T
4:00 Acceleration Test 2
4:47 Stopping Test 2
5:52 Agility Test 2
6:38 Tire Rating/Review
10:05 Outro
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Wild country Mt........you should do rhiz with snow tires
Can you try out the new A/T nitto RECON grappler on how well they do out in the snow?
I live in Michigan and I love the duratrac’s in the snow. On packed hard ice they get a little slippery.
I don't have these tires on my own truck for winter. I Have KO2's. However. Believe it or not. The Michelin MS2 is a really good winter tire. It does good in slushy conditions and has tons of sipes for the the snow. And they wear good for when it's not snowing and you're driving on the hot top. They do not look cool at all. But they get the job done.
At this point I'm swearing by the General Grabber ATx. Performs phenomenally well in snow and drives super quiet.
I just got the new Mickey thompson baja boss A/T.... they are absolutely Awesome!!! Hands down the best Tires
I was just about to order them and they don't make my size.... had to go with the legend exp
I have them too. I vouch for them in the snow and ice. They perform really well.
Are they bro? Been looking for someone who actually owns them before i went and threw my money at the shop🤣🤣 How do they handle wet/snowy conditions?
Very good handling wet and snowy con....very very quiet too.....Very pleased to have them on my truck
They can't compete with TOYO.
Not a knock on Venom Power but should use a better A/T options such as Falken wildpeak, BFG KO2, Toyo open country at3, Nitto terra grappler g2. Maybe that is the next test. Does expensive A/T do better than value tires...
Tell me your truck has falken without telling me your truck has falken😂
Agreed! Use a different all terrain tire!
pointless vid was pointless, agreed
They used a one of the top of the line mud tires. And in the lugs has sipes for snow.
So in return should have used a one of the top of line All terrain tires.
Then also used an official snow rated tire as a control
It's all about them trying to make a sale for the more expensive tires.
I absolutely love my Atturo Trail Blade X/Ts for snow! My second set so far. And I must say they impress me! 35x12.5r17 on my JKU.
I just got my nitto ridge grapplers in right before the snow hit in Oklahoma and my truck has done great on them so far very impressed
I’d like to see y’all do this test again and put some of all these RT tires in the ring as well. I’m on federals now and I’m strongly leaning to try those venom RT’s
Got a set of Toyo Open County M/T tires, LT275/70R18, combined with a limited-slip posi traction rear differential and 3.73 gears. Live in Southern Illinois and I've never been let down in any weather condition. Pricey, yes, but also so worth it.
Can’t go wrong there!
Just last week I was pounding thru drifts that where knee high with the gooseneck on and a backhoe on the trailer with my copper stt pros! But honestly my favorite is the fierce attitudes when it comes to snow
I just got the cooper Evolution mud terrain and so far I love It! We got about a foot of snow and they do pretty well in the snow.
Good video. The best winter AT/MT tire I have ever owned is the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss. It is classified as an AT tire, but it is really a hybrid AT/MT tire. I currently have them on a Bronco Raptor, and they are awesome up here in Idaho. The Raptor came with K02s. The K02s and Baja Boss's are about the same on hard pack (both 3PMSF rated), but in deep snow it is not even close.
Saving up for some Tuff T2as with venom power xts 🤟🏼
I've been driving all day on ice (Texas) on new venom power terrahunter x/ts 37x13.50s I got from yall (2011 lariat f150 4wd 6in lift)... no complaints whatsoever. Made it thru everything, no traction issues, good stopping and good acceleration.
Can’t go wrong there!
Always run mud tires in winter, spring, summer, and fall. Might have to give a good A/T tire a try and see how much difference it can be.
Definitely worth a shot!
When I bought my 6.0 it had mud tires and I live up in michigan. They were horrible in the snow so I bought some all terrains and man what a difference.
What alot of people forget about the mud grapp is that it does have more grooves for snow then alot of other Mt tires
Im running some Amazon mud tires called cavalry mts and i havent had any issues with them ive put almost 13k miles on them
Yessssss!!!! What I been looking for!
I got Kanda Klever r/t and I was impressed driving through 2' of snow
Both tires definitely have their pros and cons in the snow. The mentioned difference between hard-packed snow and powdery snow would most definitely cause different results. As for the stopping, unless began applying the brakes at the same speed with both tires, the results of that test are meaningless. Just got a set of General Grabber A/TX on my F-150 almost a week ago. My friend bought the same tire for his Ford Ranger and was satisfied with how it performed when he had to make a 6 hour drive home from an off-roading trip in a snowstorm. I'm hoping to get a chance to test them out in the snow before winter's over, but there's no guarantee I'll get a chance here in Georgia.
I've had a set of 33" ATXs on our 06 Yukon since June. Their winter performance is pretty impressive. Tons of nasty washboarded mountain roads and trail navigation, they've held up beautifully.
These results illustrate why the Duratrac, and maybe a couple others, makes such a good compromise. It is passable in the mud, but much more than passable in snow and ice. All depends on where you’re willing to compromise your performance.
exactly....the compromise will have to be made somewhere. we all want 'the best overall' performance.
You should’ve ran the falken wildpeak at3w for the all terrain I’ve been driving around in the snow and ice all day with them and they handle super well and stop well in the snow.
They definitely a stellar tire!!
I use the good year wrangler tires and they are a more aggressive A/T from what I was told, and all they do is grab throw the snow out the way and grab traction, they do great for getting traction but not great for wanting to do a bunch of donuts
Great video guys.
Can you try out the new A/T nitto RECON grappler on how well they do in the snow?
I love my Federal Couragia M/T 33/12.5 20x20 -44 set up. I live in Portland Oregon we do not get snow but when we do we get dump on and they do great I air down a little and they are amazing. And Especially when I go to the Sand dunes and ride my quads and we sand camp I have no problem in the sand either.and they are not a noisy tire IMO or at least with my Ram they are not noisy.
Do a video on the effects of sipping in snow and ice. I live in Alaska. I was running a 35x12.5x17 toyo AT extreme II's and they were complete garbage in the snow/ice. I bought a set of Cooper Evolutions in 295/70/17 and had them sipped. They suddenly perform great in snow and ice. Tire shops that are experienced with sipping here up North usually only do the inside tread blocks of the tire to help the shoulder maintain stability. There's a lot of myths about sipping. Done correctly it can actually extend the life of your tire because a sipped tire runs cooler and temp is one of the main components of tire wear.
Ever heard of the budget mt thunderer Trac grip ? Seems to hold up pretty well they also make a a/t called the ranger
I have those venoms on 20s they are terrible in the snow I literally just charged them for this weather in Ohio my winter tires are toyo MTs so much better at least I think good video brother
Definitely looked like he was going faster on the stop test with the at tires
I was thinking the same thing
Goodyear wrangler duratrac is what I run on my truck, and I’ve never felt more planned in winter with any other tire
I just absolutely love my landspyder AT tires
thanks for sharing
The Goodyear duratrac is a great hybrid tire works amazing in the snow I also run them on a 2012 Sierra Denali so it’s awd all the time
Also in Canada aswell
For me living in the northeast the Goodyear Duratrac is an awesome tire
Gasoline and fire gets plenty done 😬😂 But yeah, my MT's do fine by me in the snow. They do get their spin on if I have to park in deep snow at an awkward angle, but that's the nature of any vehicle without 4x engaged and she hasn't gotten stuck yet 🤷♂️🙏
I like the way my mud tires look but anything on the road like dust, leaves, snow, rain anything like that and it’s spinning and they are bad about hydroplaning but they look good
I've had GOODYEAR WRANGLER MT/R 35's on for over a year great tires GREAT in the snow and quiet on the pavement...you should do a test on them
We’ll look into em!!
High end mud tire vs budget at. Need to test a high end winter rated at tire. Also on ice or compact snow is a total different story.
Kenda kleever RT tires are insane in the snow been busting drifts and playing in ditches down here in illinois with 22 inches of snow
Northern Illinois here 😏
Few things. The stopping power of those M/T was so far apart should have scored M/T 5 A/T 3. I’d be interested in how much more acceleration the A/T had vs the M/T? Was that score appropriate?
Second, I’d be interested in a 2wd vs 4wd comparison.
Also, I’d like to see how the A/T performs in snow deeper than 2 inches.
Actually just got a 6" lift on my '10 Ram 4x4 today. At nearly 7,000ft elevation, we get alot of snow, which then melts and makes the dirt roads really muddy. All terrain tires pack up with mud pretty bad from my experience. Mud tires can be louder, but that extra noise gives potential deer a bit more notice that I am approaching on the pavement. How you brake, steer, and accelerate are bigger factors in snow driving IMO. If you can, stay home if the snow/ice is bad. By all means, SLOW DOWN, saw 6 vehicles that slid out/crashed in the snowy pavement, just today on the way to my appointment! I am sure speed or sudden braking was to blame, not the tread on their vehicle. Looking for a set of 35 inch tires now, either getting BFG A/T or M/T, both are great tires. Honestly, going to flip for it! I thought the music in the video was absolutely terrible. Thanks for the review. 👍
My kanati trail hogs did better on snow and ice than any other tire I’ve seen. They performed awesome, blew my mind.
Definitely should have used the BFG KO2'S those are waaaaay better in the slick conditions
The tread patterns are very similar so I'm not sure how different it would be
@@NathanS5150 tread compound and the type of rubber plus siping
From my experience in the rain the BFG KO2's AT are bit slippery in the rain, but it could just be that my truck is super light.
we got snow 2/3/2022 ❄️ 8inches,i used the Radar Renegade Rt 24×14×35 an they did pretty good
Can’t beat that!
I run Firestone destination mt2s m+s. One of the best tires I've ever ran in the snow
How heavy is the ❄️ there
My old F150 had some Falkin Wild peak MT tires and my new ram has some toyo open country at3. The at3 are so much better in the snow.
Cooper Atric Claws preformed unreal in Ontario Canada
When you do a tire test, it would be helpful for those that actually pay attention to it, give us an idea what the PSI is in the tire during the test. It does make a difference.....
Noted for next time!
i run mt all the time i have kumho mt right now im thinking when its time to buy a new tire im thinking im going with nitto mt i'm happy to see this i was just wondering does m t good for snow now i found your video matter of fact im thinking on buying nitto mt this video confirmed my thoughts
What if you used one of the 3pms rated at tires?
Those are good for winter driving.
How about a video discussing the best wheel for winter.
I am taking the MT all day. I have ran Toyo MTs, Maxxis Razr MTs (current) and Accelera MT01. I have also ran the Toyo AT2s and AT3s and they perform very well. I live in southern Oregon (country life) so we see a fair amount of snow yearly. I am not saying that ATs or RTs are not good in the snow but I believe you are biased to ATs just like I am biased to MTs. Watching the video I see just as much spin or more from the Terra hunters and you originally said so as well with it floating on start up vs digging like the MT. I have said it before and continue to believe that the performance you get from a tire is based on the tire, meaning the cheaper the tire the worse the performance, cheap MTs are not going to do very well so if your going with an MT you should go with a Toyo or Nitto level MT for sure.
Definitely does come down to preference n driving style as well as where you live!
I run rbp repulsor mt rx 35x13.50r20, fantastic tire
I kinda want to see this with a lighter truck with some lighter tire maybe after the truck sits for a bit and driving out of a ditch
I like mudterrian but I do believe a/t is good in snow
Not knocking you, I am sure you have your reasons for the scores and I did not ‘feel’ what you did. Good video
Awesome
If you guys get powdery snow you guys should do this again I’d like to see the results
We need lucky to get any snow
Would like to see this test in deep snow.
How are the Toyo open country at III?
Imagine the atII’s but better! 😎
Centennial Dirt Commander M/T best tire hands down.
AT because you are right the MT dig like hell in the snow.
Take it no weight added in the bed?
I thought I was going to learn something here but by viewing the tests and then how you rated each tire had me confused. I seen fishtailing with the AT’s and a calm turn on the MT’s but the score you gave each, to me did not make sense. In the end the only difference in the scores was a 2 so I guess whatever floats your boat buy them. I ran the Nitto’s until they got so loud (louder when the wear) and the traction offroad was… ok, but I would never buy again. I will stick with my 37X12.5 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss MT's
Next test. How long does it take to smash those fugly-ass taillights off if that beautiful truck!
I was so excited to get my Nitto Mudgrapplers out in the snow... I was so embarrassed.
Love My trail grapplers
Living in the north east you have to go straight to the 100% Winter tire, you will not get any better than a pure winter tire.
Nothing beats a dedicated snow tire.
Damn bronzefire beat me 😔
Aired down mud tires are a different animal vs aired down all terrains. It gets better in heavy snow, 2 ft+
You should have tested the mud tires against a proper Nordic winter tire...
Whys the grill covered?
Helps engine with heat retention
What you should’ve done was see how much acceleration you could get without spinning vs just flooring it and see what got you to x speed faster
I’m run cooper discoverer AT/3 4S in Canada
The stopping difference is a life saver imho
My truck had milestar Patagonias on it when I bought it. Hit a patch of cold wet pavement in a corner at maybe 30mph and lost front end traction. That was pretty scary. Bought some nitro exo grapplers, hit that same corner going faster and in worse conditions and it was like it was dry. Mud tires have no business being on vehicles in the winter imo.
I think it’s not quite as simple as that. I’ve had mud tires that I believe dud to the rubber compound were passable in the winter. I’ve had others that literally might as well be slicks.
@@phild9813 fair. It definitely is rubber compound for sure. I've just never had a good set of mud tires in the winter myself.
I’m not sure I’d call anything I’ve used “good” lol, but some certainly are more useable than others
Honestly my thought process while watching this video started out as "Oh this should be cool, I like watching people compare tires in the snow"..........but then I started hearing turbo/exhaust noises and lost interest in the test and just kept listening to the truck LMAO
Whoopsies
I'm gonna be real with ya, I hate that you used the venom for a comparison only because it's not the common AT tire like a ko2 or grabber or the mickey thompson even... venom just too flat... more of a show tire for mall crawling as opposed to a triple peak rated functional all terrain
We do a lot more show style setups then what the ko2 or grabber tends to offer for sizes
@Custom Offsets completely understand that! I love what you guys are doing and have been doing! I had Nitto mud grapplers on my jeep 4 door jk 33x12.50r18 and those things absolutely SUCKED in rain and snow.... and to think that they kinda beat the venoms freaks me out lol
@@JPzaSniper my venom's have been nothing but amazing 🤷
@richard wilson I'm happy for you... go to one offroad meet and you won't find any of those... which was my point of being an actual functional relied upon at tire...
Howdy people
The chrome on the bumpers make my head hurt … why? Maybe color match
Eventually!
Narrow tires with studs or chains are a lot better than wide tires..
I'll keep my mud claw tires
yall need to build a shitbox that yall can actually beat on in these videos! a truck just for testing! i think thatd make these videos more ablility to put some obstacles or something or like take it through insane extreme tests. like go through a foot of snow with diff tires or like go over logs or like through like 8 inches of mud or something
We reach -40 to -50 celcius during winter were i live, M/Ts turn into hockey pucks here therefore not practical.
👍👍
Yo imagine having winter
It’s awful lol
I'll take a mud tire all day over an all terrain tire.
I don't understand why it seems up north guys say mud tires are bad in the snow I life in Georgia and we seldom get snow but when we do the only trucks we can get in and out of my steep driveway is my 2500 cat eye with the toyo MTS my sierra 2500 has the dick cepek all terrains and they are terrible in the snow both 2500s both 04 both diesel identical trucks but the cat eye goes well in the snow hutnwe have really west heavy snow not the powder like up north
mud tires all the way..
do the nitto trail grapplers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#Kanati MUD HOGS all the way!! And their TRAIL HOGS 🤘🤘I’ve buy nothing but them! bigger name a/ts are over priced . People that have the real winter experience buy mud or hybrid and sipe them
Mickey thomsons are one of the worst tires I’ve ever dealt with that were said to be good. Don’t look good, no where near true to size, not the beast in snow and don’t last long for shit. Stick to nitto, Toyo, and bfgoodrich if you’re willing to spend. If not mile star patagonia is a good choice for the price
I got mud tires,, I just keep it in 4 wheel drive, mi here
And pinned
I want to see how the gladiator x comps do in snow. Im between those or the venom terra hunters. I know the terra hunters arnt great but they have a good look. Anyone have the gladiator x comps? They good in rain/snow/ off road?
Those cheap Venoms are not a good comparison for Nittos. The amount of siping on them is poor.
These 12.5 wide tires are not good for snow. A thinner tire would be better.
Wide tires will always suck in the snow
I don’t drive mine in the winter
Easiest way to avoid salt!
I live in South Florida!
@@PowerstrokeSynd same! Easiest possible way to never worry about snow traction
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This isnt a realist test because i believe it should be tested in deep snow(1ft+ of snow) and on slick snow&ice covered roads.
11ft of snow would require float tires haha
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@@I_am_the_Juan1 I'll take a half dozen.
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