If they had tested the Milestar Patagonias they would have slayed most tires they tested at their low price point hehe they are absolutely silent and the traction is almost unbelievable. Nittos are fantastic though and worth that cost for how long they last
@@errhka I agree they should have tested mud terrains. I would never spend that much on all terrains but I do plenty of offroading to justify buying MTs for my daily.
I like hi trucks tires more, but everything else I think lo truck is better. It honestly looks way better and the wheels were literally 1/4 of the price
Haha same. My truck is the 05 Sierra 1/2 ton equivalent of low truck. 1" lift/level, RC shocks,Tyger Automotive amazon flares, Aries bull bar, Amazon 20" light bar, 6 high mod (when I turn on my brights my fog lights, high and low beams come on all together) reverse camera, better than aftermarket brake pads, soon I'm going from 265 70 17s to 285 70 17s. Anyone have tire suggestions?
But then you're abusing the front diffs. Imho weld the rear and drive it in rwd, you can do 90% of obstacles and keep the wear on the weaker front ends down .
One of the things they didn't talk about with tires is sidewall durability, which is extremely important offroading. I'm a firm believer there are a few things not to skimp on building a vehicle. Tires, brakes, and lighting. Honestly the low trucks tires are not the cheapest you could go, it seems the whole purpose of lo truck is to be a BUDGET build as opposed to the cheapest parts you can find. Personally I think that's going to speak to the new enthusiasts a lot more by demonstrating that you don't need to break the bank to get acceptable performance!
@@evadvalcourt those Kenda tires aren't low quality, Kenda is a value brand but they've been around for a long time making car, motorcycle, and ATV tires, they're just new to the truck tire game, but Kenda is designing their truck tire line out of their facility in Ohio.
@Semaj Niffirg also bicycle tires, anyone who needs cheaper tires I always recomend kendas at my shop as the offer decent performance at a much lower price
@@evadvalcourtidk I’ve seen 2500 dollar bfgs cup as well as coopers. Both on brand new trucks. I wasn’t open to trying different brands until you have to replace MTs every 20-30k miles. I’ve tried a few “off brands” and so far have had success with them.
I love the fact that in this series they're not ruining the low-truck, in the 350z high-vs-low they destroyed the low-car and put the worst parts they could find, I like that this is a budget, yet awesome build nonetheless. A great truck to take off-roading while still respecting some sort of budget! Great job Donut!
It’s different with trucks tbh everything is more expensive cause parts are beefier and stronger then on cars so a lot of companies don’t even try to make aftermarket parts for trucks
there's a point when you realize there's a deminishing returns on performance per extra dollar spent. this series really highlights this factor, and willing to bet is the entire premise of the series
@@ClaytonNeuner I don't know about saying that more money doesn't mean a better product. It would be better to say that at a point, it isn't worth the difference
As much as I agree from the perspective of this video that the 3x pricier setup on hi truck isn't performing at a major advantage. It doesn't showcase the factor of how well will the high truck's parts last. How many miles will the tires get on them, how long will the suspension perform at top-notch, and will the Beadlock wheels eventually take an impact that cracks them beyond repair?
As someone with nearly 20 years of offroad experience I can tell you that there is no direct correlation between price and the overall performance of a tire offroad. (meaning DOT approved tires, not stickies etc) There are many tires out today that are trendy, therefore demanding a higher price tag. But that doesn't necessarily make them better.
@@smolscale If price was only determined by quality this wouldn't be a series. Sure better rubber costs more to a certain extent but marketing and branding definitely effect it equally as much like with any other product. Just look at the prices of Continental vs General tires
Road noise takes time to manifest itself…check back in 30 days so road wear, alignment nuances, and tire rubber composition come into play. Loving the series.
Spot on. One thing they only briefly touched on was the grippiness of HT. Just like race tires, grippier means it wears out quicker, *but* offers a way smoother experience off-roading, tighter control and is less likely to chunk out. And someone who two-tracks regularly would probably have a Hi set and a Lo set. Sidenote, I love LT's steelies. Reminds me of those classic American Racing black steelies from the 90s ( back when chrome was king and those were the *only* black wheel option... Oh how the turns table).
When spotting for someone while off-roading, use "driver" and "passenger" for directions instead of "left" and "right." Helps both parties be on the same page.
@Gareth Tucker for off-roading it’s easier to use driver and passenger though. In the US you would be hard pressed to find an off-road rig that is right hand drive so driver and passenger is the easier method. Not discounting the way you have experience in, but for what they’re doing it’s easier to use driver and passenger commands instead
@Gareth Tucker it’s truly up to the individual. In the US specifically we primarily use driver/passenger since virtually every vehicle that is on the road in the US has the driver on the same side. I don’t have enough experience in other countries but we use it that way even on single seaters since so many people have it hardwired that driver is always to the left and passenger to the right. Not to mention there is very little confusion since you’re working with terms that cannot be mixed up. Saying left hand down could confuse a driver on whether you mean their left or your left. While not highly likely, I have seen it happen. It’s the same reason that the machinery I work on doesn’t use left or right. We say operator or non operator since that removes any possible confusion with our service department
@@SuperTheast Learned in the military and we were not allowed to talk when spotting, only hand signals was accepted. If you had to explain something you stopped the driver and walked over to talk to him before going back to spotting. Trying to talk people through an obstacle is kind of a loosing prospect if the surroundings are noisy, and sitting in a truck like these doesn't make it easier. So establish a set of hand signals and stop yelling... Now driving with a spotter can be stressful as you have to ignore what *YOU THE DRIVER* feel would be needed and only do exactly what the spotter is signaling you no matter how much you feel you know better.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 if I’m backing someone up with a trailer I definitely use hand signals. I do mostly trail crawling so it’s quiet enough that just talking does the trick. It’s definitely up to the individuals that are navigating the obstacles though. I’ve seen people do hand signals only and others that mixed them in. I’m not trying to say one way is better than the rest since there is no perfect way
First off, you guys do some good videos! The difference in price isn't necessarily just traction and looks. The build of the tire matters. How tuff they are, usually, the more plies a tire has, the more they can resist punctures. Many years ago, I saw some sweet looking mud terrains at pep boys for under 150 a tire(if I remember correctly). After reading the sidewall and seeing that they had only 1 or 2 ply tread(normal for street tires) I walked out. Keep up the good work fellas
i love how this is isn’t just “hi-low”, this is “car bois learn how to play in the dirt”. I honestly didn’t think hi-low could get any better BUT this series with some high-quality Tacos just turned this series up to an ELEVEN
Realized this when hi-team doubted lower tire pressure would make a difference... or maybe they were staying in character because it's literally the cheapest "mod" there is.
@@bmax98 Yea if I'm off pavement I dump air imediately down to 18psi then just stay in 2wd until I start spinning tires (unless intentional :-D). Not only does it give you better traction but if you have not so nice suspension it makes things more comfortable too. Edit: Sand gets 4x4 imediately and even lower psi
They should've got the hilux, not only can that survive the ocean, it can survive being on top of a 20storey building as it gets blown up. Clarkson proved it.
If I had to pay 100 bucks for a tire change I'd seriously consider doing it my self and just pay for the balancing. In Europe I get my 18* tires changed for the equivalent 25 USD.
Low truck had way too much air pressure when he ran the pipes. You could see it bouncing where the High truck molded around the pipes. Air pressure means so much. H/Ts pressured down to 18psi will out perform A/Ts running 40psi all day.
Bouncing is probably caused by the suspensions, not tyre pressure (they talked about this at the end of s3:e1), because they were all running 15 psi iirc
I run the dunes basically weekly, (10 minutes away). I air down to 6 lbs with my Toyo open country at's. Rarely even have to use 4 wheel drive. I took off my BFG's to try the toyo's and will never go back.
Considering these are meant to be “Daily Drivers” that can be taken off road on the weekends, I think mileage on the tires should definitely be considered between the two!
Luckily these are light-duty trucks so you can throw anything on them. If you're in a diesel truck, you need to stick to tires with higher ply-counts, aka more $$$.
@@mattlane2282 you can actually buy chlorinated brake Kleen of the shelf at O'Reilly's, but the chlorinated stuff is like $8 a bottle, while the same size bottle of name brand non-chlorinated goes for like $2.50, and store brand goes for like $1.50 a bottle. The non chlorinated stuff burns a lot better, and the chlorinated stuff cleans slightly better (they use it to clean instrument panels on oil rigs here that get splattered with crude) also if you want to buy more than 1-2 bottles of chlorinated brake kleen you have to have a commercial account and/or a certificate/license.
@@Prestiged_peck In your state maybe... banned for sale in mine... but you kinda make my point... if you burn that shit it turns into I think phosgen... that will kill you...
@@Prestiged_peck "The Safety Data Sheet (SDS) for a can of brake cleaner reads: “Do not use this product near open flames, welding operations, or excessive heat. Vapors may decompose to harmful or fatal corrosive gases such as hydrogen chloride and possibly phosgene."
I have that same exact truck as the silver low truck. Identical. I'm into overlanding and planning out a build just like the ones yall had on the show. Perfect for comparison and now I know what I want to do. BTW, I've been watching this show for years, and love the personalities on camera. Always a fun experience watching the show. Much love to the show
11:20- this part kills me high team with bead locks disagree that airing down will increase traction....the entire purpose of a bead lock is so you can run 6psi and have a nice contact patch that grips and molds to rocks giving you the maximum amount of grip that the tire is capable of and not db (debead) in the process
At 3:30 he explained the purpose of the wheel ring clamping on the tire was to "uh get through a lot more stuff". What more were you expecting in the video lol
As someone who does a lot of 4wding it hurt me when I first heard the "I don't think lower tyre pressures will help." Tyre pressure is make or break in a lot of off-road scenarios. Also a big difference you'll see in cheap to expensive tyres is noise, and longevity. How are they performing after 80,000km. That's where you'll find a big difference. Along with puncture resistance, in Australia when you're travelling remote on track you want a tyre that's got a much stronger sidewall so you don't get punctures from stakes and other sharp objects off- road.
I’m sure it’s been considered but Aaron is now in formula drift (if you didn’t already know)so I’m sure that would take priority over donut for him. I suspect this season was put off till Aaron was free to come film.
I agree. I had the chance to meet with Aaron a few times at drift events. He’s super humble and very knowledgeable. We all had a good laugh whn his lower control arm was making spaghetti out of the inner barrel of his wheel out at Sonoma
Everything is high price at the moment cause of covid, every used truck is worth almost double what they used to be. Its hard to be in the market for a truck right now considering if u do buy one and then prices go back down you'll lose thousands.
Great thing is, I purchased and mounted a set of Kenda Klever tires 2 months before seeing this video and I'm impressed and extremely satisfied with my tires💪🏾 Another awesome video guys thanks!!
Couldn't agree more, the Nitto's will out-perform the cheap knockoffs in every scientific test, but this was an entertainment test and absolutely fantastic. 💯
I have the kenda klever rts and love them. They are beastly and work really well in wet and snow conditions. (Missed getting a snow rating by 3 points, could have just been driver error that cost them the rating). Great overall tires. I got my 35 by 12.5 tires for my tundra for under 1000. Cant beat that
He also chose nittos at an insane price for psuedo 33's. I just bought 34's this week and while looking for a friend without a CMC I saw those in stock online for 289 in that size.
Not rule #1 but I agree and was thinking the same thing. I’m usually at 10psi for general offroading and 8psi for the rocks and sand. Also not on beadlocks just $60 steelies
I love watching people learning to off road. It brings a tear to my eye. Keep up these great truck videos guys! Loving it! What a lot of viewers might not know is the majority of off roading is driver skill/technique. Tires need to be tested in mud/sand/rain/snow/ice/rocks/etc.... Love it!
Love seeing first gen tacos on LoHi, but having someone around with some off-road experience would be pretty helpful. Both of those trucks could handle all those obstacles in their stock form
Low truck is actually getting some pretty decent parts. It’s like hi-trok and mid-truck. Also air down those beadlocks to like 8psi and the steelies to like 12
That’s what I was thinking. They could be using $50/ea steelies from summit racing, a $300 eBay lift, and some federal tires. These tests are also pretty bad. They don’t show the true difference between high and low products. You buy good tires for traction, but also puncture protection, lifetime, sidewall strength, warranties, wear patterns, etc. But they didn’t do any high speed traction test. And those Icons shine in speed over desert terrain, not slow crawling
I prefer that for low truck. The last season they constantly used the cheapest crappiest thing they could find. Which yeah it worked but in a lot of cases they were just cheap bad quality garbage. Id rather see something thats cheaper, but still a quality product.
@@mikerossi7634 I agree with the puncture protection. I run BFG K02 tires and over 20 years in the desert I have never had a flat. I rock crawl some but a lot of high speed desert fun so I am sold on K02 tires.
@@karlschwaber7006 yep BFG KO2s are solid and worth it! I switched over to Falken Wildpeaks a few years and haven't had a single issue either. I ran them for a while on a 2004 Suburban and that thing RIPPED forest roads, now I have them on my 3rd gen Tacoma TRD OR. Back in February I bought 4x 265/75r16 for $720 out the door for the non-LT version. Best deal in high quality ATs in my opinion.
One thing that was not discussed is the amount of weight used to balance the tires. Tires that start out well balanced usually wear and maintain balance better.
I mean yes, they may last 10% longer, but they’re twice as expensive. It just isn’t worth it. Hell most off brand AT tires have a 40-50k mile warranty these days too
James: “yours look like they’re from World War II, ours look like they’re from the freaking terminator” Also James: “I think I prefer the look of low trucks tyres”
Can’t begin to share how much I love that you’ve entered the off road content market. You could start a whole separate off-road channel and hit 1mil subs within a few months. Keep up the amazing content!
Kenda makes some awesome tires! The airing down part was excellent, but the big thing people need to realize is it’s unnecessary for a vast majority of the trails they do… do it if you want, or don’t. Great video! I’m worried the more people learn about Kendas, the more expensive they’ll become.
The fact that you guys bought Tacomas has me smiling and excited for this season. I have a 1998 Toyota 4Runner and once I get everything repaired, I'll have some references 😉
i run 33"'s with bilsteins and tokico black shocks from a landcrusier in my 2000 4Runner. Nearly identical to low setup with maybe a few changes here or there for looks and durability but dude it does wonders. Gotta get into it!
I’ve had both sets of those tires……on steel wheels I can air down 12 off-road in the front and 14 in the rear. It’s perfect for sand and off road. Where nitto truly shines is the fact the ridge grapplers will last 85k miles easily with rotations. 40k on the Kendra
@@DJ.EddyBru size and climate may make difference also, mine are 34” i believe 305/55/20 on a tundra, phoenix (hot as shit) i can still drive on them no issues, but the tread is so low they will not hook up off road very good, and suck in wet pavement from lack of sips, but they did really good off road when they still had tread
If that was the point than beadlocks hi-team used are out ,as most places define them as "offroad use only". Steeles for the dub 🤣I like the look of the alloy rims rims, but durable they are not. Good for sandy desert stuff or maybe mud, but rocks and brittle metal alloys are not the best of friends.
Ive been in the off road industry since the early 1970’s and I have been telling customers the same thing since the early 1980’s. You guys hit the nail on the head, if part A is 500$ more than part B will you receive a 500$ improvement. If you only get a 100$ improvement then I always felt the lower cost (unless of course you have unlimited cash flow) was a better choice. Starter fluid is even better and more explosive! You’re right 80-100$ to mount and balance those non bead lock tires, that’s a deal unless you have a mega buck balancer sitting in your garage. I’m very familiar with Gorman, that very hill can be idled up that hill with stock tires and if you’re on a real budget a 300$ lunchbox locker. But hey the glitter looks trick driving on the I5 freeway. Entertaining video gentlemen!
@@skyerunner I don't know much about Tacomas but if they're anything like our Australian counterpart the hilux then this year model wouldn't come stock with a rear locker
*laughs in 2psi on steel rims with 38"* which is honestly not the lowest we go, i've gone as low as 0.5 psi to save my ass, but then im up to 2 psi right away. have never debeaded. and i've watched people with beadlocks debead while running the same pressure. it's all about skill and how your wheels are :D
@@arnarmar96 the type of tire makes a massive difference. My buddy on 38" tractor tires and run basically valveless without bead locks but my Patagonias wanna pop off below 12psi
@@SketchyAsFunk Sure does, but the rim also makes an even bigger difference. for example, if your tyre is 14.50" wide, like in my case, you want to be running a 14" wide rim. atleast for snow and mud, but for rock crawling i know that is another story.
Went out and got me a set of them Kenda Klever AT2's...they are performing as advertised. Perfect AT Tire for the off-road weekend warrior who uses his truck on pavement during the week days...off the chart value!
What would have also been cool to see is how the fuel economy in the city and on the highway were impacted with having an increased tire weight. Just interesting to see.
Tip when installing a tyre with brakecleaner and a torch. Take out the inner part of the valve. This will prevent the tire from going vacuum as was seen in the video.
We definitely removed it but maybe the tire just had a ton of volume and the flame ate all the oxygen? I think next time me and Nolan will be F1 fast styles on it👌🏾
@@aaronparker3559 good point im comparing it to just simple size road use tires these are way bigger en de valve size didnt change thats why it still went vacuum i asume.
You can get screw on fittings, use a length of hose back to a ball valve then more hose back to the compressor. Ball valve closed and compressor on / full tank, light up the fluid. Then from a safe distance you can dump high pressure air in very quickly. We also normally use a gas like "start ya bastard". Again, this is done with the inner valve steam removed so that the air can flow faster. Once the tire is sealed up, you can take off the fill hose, replace the valve and pump up.
Sorry, but your tests are flawed. Climbing a the same complete length of dirt hill does not say if one set of tires is better then the other. It just says both sets "pass" that test. You need a hill that progressively increases in difficulty so that not even a tracked vehicle can make it to the top. Now that no vehicle can "pass" the test, you can compare how far along each fails and gather REAL data. A skilled offroader can air down any set of tires to as low as 10-15 psi. Just drive slowly and don't steer unless moving forwards / backwards. Bead locks let you air down to even 3 psi. You also need to test in thick mud. Some features of better off road tires are more plyable sidewalls, allowing better flex and thus a larger contact patch. Deep chunky tread on the sidewalls helps when crawling through the mud. Even the ability of different tread designs changes the ability to throw mud off the wheels and "self-clean". Driving for a while at a moderate speed will normally throw the mud off, but spinning your tires whilst struggling for grip is where quality tires make a difference. I've had "no-name" tires that turned into clay soaked racing slicks while quality tires on the same hill gripped like snow chains. There is of course a balance point at which point the advantage isn't worth the cost, but your tests haven't reached that point.
I’m glad they brought back the series One of my favorites
If they had tested the Milestar Patagonias they would have slayed most tires they tested at their low price point hehe they are absolutely silent and the traction is almost unbelievable. Nittos are fantastic though and worth that cost for how long they last
Same do miss the z's tho:(
@@errhka I agree they should have tested mud terrains. I would never spend that much on all terrains but I do plenty of offroading to justify buying MTs for my daily.
Favorite thing they do...
Me too
Just started watching the series and honestly I prefer low truck, I feel like relatively cost efficient upgrades are kinda the spirit of off-roading.
I like hi trucks tires more, but everything else I think lo truck is better. It honestly looks way better and the wheels were literally 1/4 of the price
In the last series...the "low" options included some really cheap chintzy stuff. I love this truck series and the low products are still solid.
I like the toys that hi-truck gets, but you are 100% right, working on a budget is more in the spirit of off-roading.
@@Magucci13 lll my
Haha same. My truck is the 05 Sierra 1/2 ton equivalent of low truck. 1" lift/level, RC shocks,Tyger Automotive amazon flares, Aries bull bar, Amazon 20" light bar, 6 high mod (when I turn on my brights my fog lights, high and low beams come on all together) reverse camera, better than aftermarket brake pads, soon I'm going from 265 70 17s to 285 70 17s. Anyone have tire suggestions?
When offroading, SKILL LEVEL is every bit as important as the mods. I've seen guys with open diffs do amazing things. Don't discount Skill level boys!
But then you're abusing the front diffs. Imho weld the rear and drive it in rwd, you can do 90% of obstacles and keep the wear on the weaker front ends down .
facts
@@0xsergy that sounds like the lowest of low car lol
This is so true, a mate of mine does alot of ofroading in his daily/almost stock suzuki samurai and beats so many trucks with hella mods
Brings up the old phrase...
All The Gear... No Idea.
Just because you have a fat wallet, doesn't mean you're getting around that course.
One of the things they didn't talk about with tires is sidewall durability, which is extremely important offroading. I'm a firm believer there are a few things not to skimp on building a vehicle. Tires, brakes, and lighting. Honestly the low trucks tires are not the cheapest you could go, it seems the whole purpose of lo truck is to be a BUDGET build as opposed to the cheapest parts you can find. Personally I think that's going to speak to the new enthusiasts a lot more by demonstrating that you don't need to break the bank to get acceptable performance!
Not just that, when they start to have mileage cheap tires tend to cup quite a bit and sometimes are impossible to balance
Agreed 💯
@@evadvalcourt those Kenda tires aren't low quality, Kenda is a value brand but they've been around for a long time making car, motorcycle, and ATV tires, they're just new to the truck tire game, but Kenda is designing their truck tire line out of their facility in Ohio.
@Semaj Niffirg also bicycle tires, anyone who needs cheaper tires I always recomend kendas at my shop as the offer decent performance at a much lower price
@@evadvalcourtidk I’ve seen 2500 dollar bfgs cup as well as coopers. Both on brand new trucks. I wasn’t open to trying different brands until you have to replace MTs every 20-30k miles. I’ve tried a few “off brands” and so far have had success with them.
I lost it when they cut to Nolan’s perspective of James yelling at the top of the hill 😂
Pure
Comedy
never thought someone rambling about mac & cheese would be so entertaining.
Kinda similar to
CLARKSONNNNNN
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Dude, absolutely lost it
Nolan: “…daily drivers you can literally take anywhere!”
James: “…except the ocean…”
Me: Top Gear flashbacks…
2 options: tie it down or make it amphibious
Whistling diesel flashbacks
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this.
I love the fact that in this series they're not ruining the low-truck, in the 350z high-vs-low they destroyed the low-car and put the worst parts they could find, I like that this is a budget, yet awesome build nonetheless. A great truck to take off-roading while still respecting some sort of budget! Great job Donut!
It’s different with trucks tbh everything is more expensive cause parts are beefier and stronger then on cars so a lot of companies don’t even try to make aftermarket parts for trucks
If they used a heavier truck, the "low" tire would be a lot more expensive bc you can throw anything on a Tacoma.
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If they would have skipped the plasti-dip and body kit Locar would have been a nice ride (after they swapped out the ebay coilovers).
Trucks are more modular than cars
2 years later the 800 dollar tires ARE 1500 dollars, and the 1500 dollar tires are unaffordable 😅
I love the Chris Fix "Soapy Wooder" reference, made me laugh lol
Same man I was looking for this comment
And you damn spoiled me😢😢😩
Came here for this comment. "Just need some soapy wooder"
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Not really a Chris fix reference. A lot of people say this lol
“Donut Media won’t influence me to spend a mortgage payment on tires...”
Donut Media:
I didn't expect shinobu to be into trucks
Yay I’m the second reply
Donut Media: Sikeee
Fourth I guess..
they literally said the opposite
Aaron: “Constant throttle!”
Everyone else: “more *Beans* “
All the beans ,hrsprs, buff horses an bald eagles you can give them "contact patches"
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*beans*
Good job
"Let 'er eat!"
there's a point when you realize there's a deminishing returns on performance per extra dollar spent. this series really highlights this factor, and willing to bet is the entire premise of the series
Exactly, the more money doesn’t always mean the best. I really like the price of those low team tires, especially after a lift kit…
@@ClaytonNeuner I don't know about saying that more money doesn't mean a better product. It would be better to say that at a point, it isn't worth the difference
As much as I agree from the perspective of this video that the 3x pricier setup on hi truck isn't performing at a major advantage. It doesn't showcase the factor of how well will the high truck's parts last. How many miles will the tires get on them, how long will the suspension perform at top-notch, and will the Beadlock wheels eventually take an impact that cracks them beyond repair?
dont go cheap, go inexpensive
@@phil16 yeah
Zach's transformation into Homeless Emperor is almost complete
Damn never thought OPM would be mentioned in a Donut video lol
I thought these were older videos when I see him. Looks like a younger phase he'd go through
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@@jimothymayhorn same I chuckled when I saw it htough
As someone with nearly 20 years of offroad experience I can tell you that there is no direct correlation between price and the overall performance of a tire offroad. (meaning DOT approved tires, not stickies etc) There are many tires out today that are trendy, therefore demanding a higher price tag. But that doesn't necessarily make them better.
It’s the material they are made out of that reflects the cost bruh
@@smolscale If price was only determined by quality this wouldn't be a series. Sure better rubber costs more to a certain extent but marketing and branding definitely effect it equally as much like with any other product. Just look at the prices of Continental vs General tires
@@smolscale yeah but just because they are made out of a more expensive material doesn't make them better "bruh"
Arron, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
cough KO2 cough. wildpeak gang
Road noise takes time to manifest itself…check back in 30 days so road wear, alignment nuances, and tire rubber composition come into play. Loving the series.
I wish you could retweet UA-cam comments
Todd, EXACTLY, put some miles on them & see how they change.
100% correct. When I bought my KM3s I was like wow these are pretty quiet. 2 months later it sounded like my truck was a bee hive lmao
Spot on. One thing they only briefly touched on was the grippiness of HT. Just like race tires, grippier means it wears out quicker, *but* offers a way smoother experience off-roading, tighter control and is less likely to chunk out. And someone who two-tracks regularly would probably have a Hi set and a Lo set.
Sidenote, I love LT's steelies. Reminds me of those classic American Racing black steelies from the 90s ( back when chrome was king and those were the *only* black wheel option... Oh how the turns table).
Mans spittin' serious facts
I LOVE the whole high/low series. You guys are awesome. Keep it up, Donut!
When spotting for someone while off-roading, use "driver" and "passenger" for directions instead of "left" and "right." Helps both parties be on the same page.
@Gareth Tucker for off-roading it’s easier to use driver and passenger though. In the US you would be hard pressed to find an off-road rig that is right hand drive so driver and passenger is the easier method. Not discounting the way you have experience in, but for what they’re doing it’s easier to use driver and passenger commands instead
@Gareth Tucker it’s truly up to the individual. In the US specifically we primarily use driver/passenger since virtually every vehicle that is on the road in the US has the driver on the same side. I don’t have enough experience in other countries but we use it that way even on single seaters since so many people have it hardwired that driver is always to the left and passenger to the right. Not to mention there is very little confusion since you’re working with terms that cannot be mixed up. Saying left hand down could confuse a driver on whether you mean their left or your left. While not highly likely, I have seen it happen. It’s the same reason that the machinery I work on doesn’t use left or right. We say operator or non operator since that removes any possible confusion with our service department
@@SuperTheast Learned in the military and we were not allowed to talk when spotting, only hand signals was accepted. If you had to explain something you stopped the driver and walked over to talk to him before going back to spotting. Trying to talk people through an obstacle is kind of a loosing prospect if the surroundings are noisy, and sitting in a truck like these doesn't make it easier. So establish a set of hand signals and stop yelling...
Now driving with a spotter can be stressful as you have to ignore what *YOU THE DRIVER* feel would be needed and only do exactly what the spotter is signaling you no matter how much you feel you know better.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 if I’m backing someone up with a trailer I definitely use hand signals. I do mostly trail crawling so it’s quiet enough that just talking does the trick. It’s definitely up to the individuals that are navigating the obstacles though. I’ve seen people do hand signals only and others that mixed them in. I’m not trying to say one way is better than the rest since there is no perfect way
The words you were looking for were port and starboard
James: 800 vs 1500 offroad tires
Me: 4 tire $100 Facebook marketplace special
Can’t beat that price tho
@@cahsahhhhhhhn Craigslist can :)
Or steal them
Lol, my 50 dollar mudtires did awesome. Being on a 2000lb sidekick helps, that thing is already an atv basically
Me: Last years worn out all seasons.
Aaron communicates like he’s speaking to himself - a competitive experienced driver.
Was just about to say the same thing
First off, you guys do some good videos! The difference in price isn't necessarily just traction and looks. The build of the tire matters. How tuff they are, usually, the more plies a tire has, the more they can resist punctures. Many years ago, I saw some sweet looking mud terrains at pep boys for under 150 a tire(if I remember correctly). After reading the sidewall and seeing that they had only 1 or 2 ply tread(normal for street tires) I walked out. Keep up the good work fellas
i love how this is isn’t just “hi-low”, this is “car bois learn how to play in the dirt”. I honestly didn’t think hi-low could get any better BUT this series with some high-quality Tacos just turned this series up to an ELEVEN
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Realized this when hi-team doubted lower tire pressure would make a difference... or maybe they were staying in character because it's literally the cheapest "mod" there is.
@@ajc1080 Right?? that’s like off-roading 101 😂
@@bmax98 Yea if I'm off pavement I dump air imediately down to 18psi then just stay in 2wd until I start spinning tires (unless intentional :-D). Not only does it give you better traction but if you have not so nice suspension it makes things more comfortable too. Edit: Sand gets 4x4 imediately and even lower psi
Donut: "... That you can take anywhere except for the ocean"
Whislingdiesel: hold my Duramax
They should've got the hilux, not only can that survive the ocean, it can survive being on top of a 20storey building as it gets blown up. Clarkson proved it.
No one care about him, he wasn’t the first to do so.
Forgaht abaht thaht stoohge
Everytime they say this thats all I can think of
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“Budget has no impact on whether you do something correctly”
Words of wisdom to live by!
If I had to pay 100 bucks for a tire change I'd seriously consider doing it my self and just pay for the balancing. In Europe I get my 18* tires changed for the equivalent 25 USD.
Money pit Miata ehem
@@Renee_R343 They're in LA though so their tire change comes with a free AIDS test and raw fish salad
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Low truck had way too much air pressure when he ran the pipes. You could see it bouncing where the High truck molded around the pipes.
Air pressure means so much. H/Ts pressured down to 18psi will out perform A/Ts running 40psi all day.
Bouncing is probably caused by the suspensions, not tyre pressure (they talked about this at the end of s3:e1), because they were all running 15 psi iirc
I would love to see them in the next season of Hi Low trying to restore a classic old car. That would be awesome!
DONT JINX IT
This is season 3
Maybe moneypit season 3 can be Nolan’s imperial
@@BiopicDust this is season 2
I second that
"Don't do this, but I've done this a lot" is peak HiLow
Definitely 😂
Absolutely loving this season
Couldn’t agree more, about time they do some offroaders
Same. It’s good. Can’t go wrong with Yotas
Bien
This season is wonderful!!!
11:02 is hands down one of my favorite clips of donut
Mine too so underrated clip of complete randomness 😂
S P A Z Z I N G
I know when Zack and James were like "deflating gives more traction? That's stupid" every off-road bro was into their screen
Exactly my thoughts
Don't gotta be an off-road bro to know who was right. It's just common sense. Same thing works in snow.
I run the dunes basically weekly, (10 minutes away). I air down to 6 lbs with my Toyo open country at's. Rarely even have to use 4 wheel drive. I took off my BFG's to try the toyo's and will never go back.
Did they try airing down the stock tires?
@@ADBATT52 these two guys are a joke, they don't have a clue about wheeling.
Considering these are meant to be “Daily Drivers” that can be taken off road on the weekends, I think mileage on the tires should definitely be considered between the two!
YOU'RE SPECIAL ED!!!!
@@xxtravdamanxx Know him from class?
@@xxtravdamanxx Atleast he typed with understandable grammar and didnt even use cap lock.
@@alexandermueller4115 you killed him💀
Luckily these are light-duty trucks so you can throw anything on them. If you're in a diesel truck, you need to stick to tires with higher ply-counts, aka more $$$.
Nolan: You know I wouldn’t risk my health for entertainment purposes.
Also Nolan: Living in my car for a week
So lighting chlorinated brake clean... will kill you.... this of course was likely not chlorinated as it is illegal to sell in most locations...
@@mattlane2282 you can actually buy chlorinated brake Kleen of the shelf at O'Reilly's, but the chlorinated stuff is like $8 a bottle, while the same size bottle of name brand non-chlorinated goes for like $2.50, and store brand goes for like $1.50 a bottle. The non chlorinated stuff burns a lot better, and the chlorinated stuff cleans slightly better (they use it to clean instrument panels on oil rigs here that get splattered with crude) also if you want to buy more than 1-2 bottles of chlorinated brake kleen you have to have a commercial account and/or a certificate/license.
@@Prestiged_peck In your state maybe... banned for sale in mine... but you kinda make my point... if you burn that shit it turns into I think phosgen... that will kill you...
@@mattlane2282 no it releases chlorine gas
@@Prestiged_peck "The Safety Data Sheet (SDS) for a can of brake cleaner reads: “Do not use this product near open flames, welding operations, or excessive heat. Vapors may decompose to harmful or fatal corrosive gases such as hydrogen chloride and possibly phosgene."
I have that same exact truck as the silver low truck. Identical. I'm into overlanding and planning out a build just like the ones yall had on the show. Perfect for comparison and now I know what I want to do.
BTW, I've been watching this show for years, and love the personalities on camera. Always a fun experience watching the show. Much love to the show
11:20- this part kills me high team with bead locks disagree that airing down will increase traction....the entire purpose of a bead lock is so you can run 6psi and have a nice contact patch that grips and molds to rocks giving you the maximum amount of grip that the tire is capable of and not db (debead) in the process
Like every OR was screamin at the monitor. WHAT THE EVER LOVIN TRUCK are you talking about?
At 3:30 he explained the purpose of the wheel ring clamping on the tire was to "uh get through a lot more stuff". What more were you expecting in the video lol
Yeah, that was pretty funny. I wasn't sure if they really believed that or were just doing it for the show.
Yea 100 percent I feel like these guys don’t know shit
@@aaronhoadley1053 lol maybe but its still fun to see
As someone who does a lot of 4wding it hurt me when I first heard the "I don't think lower tyre pressures will help." Tyre pressure is make or break in a lot of off-road scenarios. Also a big difference you'll see in cheap to expensive tyres is noise, and longevity. How are they performing after 80,000km. That's where you'll find a big difference. Along with puncture resistance, in Australia when you're travelling remote on track you want a tyre that's got a much stronger sidewall so you don't get punctures from stakes and other sharp objects off-
road.
i was looking if anyone mentioned tire pressure already, especially with the beadlocks. take advantage of the extra contact patch.
thats exactly what i was thinking/.... longevity.
Don't be fooled by the hosts beards, they are man babies that only got their licenses last year
Psi is everything, if they aired down the stock tyres they still would have done better
@@janeblogs324 lmao...are you shitting me.?. lol...thats funny tho
I love that little animation of the mini trucks in the intro. Fantastic production value
i hope they turn them into stockys!
I am 100% feeling Nolan's frustration here! Budget does not mean sloppy, you can still do the job right on a dime.
"Ahhh, It's in the car!!"
Aaron: *Rolls up window*
Nolan: *Rolls down window*
Y'all should seriously consider hiring Aaron to become a Donut host! He's so entertaining and informative!
Ya Aaron with Nolan making it actual fun to watch
I’m sure it’s been considered but Aaron is now in formula drift (if you didn’t already know)so I’m sure that would take priority over donut for him. I suspect this season was put off till Aaron was free to come film.
yess please
I agree. I had the chance to meet with Aaron a few times at drift events. He’s super humble and very knowledgeable.
We all had a good laugh whn his lower control arm was making spaghetti out of the inner barrel of his wheel out at Sonoma
Do not listen to Aaron. He has the skill level of a teenager with their first car.
this was the most passive aggressive episode of anything i’ve ever seen 😂
You could feel the tension between the teams and teammates. I bet there are some interesting arguments that didn’t t make the cut 🤣
“You sound like a high team boy right now” LOL I’m DED
James' incoherent yelling from the top of the hill is the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a while 🤣🤣🤣
I really appreciate the Chris fix “soapy worder” reference.
Glad i wasnt th only one who caught that ChrisFix reference 🤣🙏🏽
It's wooder not worder
How did I not pick that up is beyond me.
mee too! 😂 😍
I'm pretty sure it's more of a Brad Leone reference
both of these trucks are considered high trucks in my area, try finding a clean rust free late model tacoma, mid 100k miles for less then 10k
I see trucks in my area with 300k go for 20-30k "i know what i got no lowballers"
You need to MOVE!
@@TheBandit7613 where to?
@@marilynmonbro35 It depends what you like to do. Are you in to off road? Camping? Mountains? Fishing? What do you like?
Everything is high price at the moment cause of covid, every used truck is worth almost double what they used to be. Its hard to be in the market for a truck right now considering if u do buy one and then prices go back down you'll lose thousands.
Great thing is, I purchased and mounted a set of Kenda Klever tires 2 months before seeing this video and I'm impressed and extremely satisfied with my tires💪🏾 Another awesome video guys thanks!!
im tire shopping, how are these holding up 2 years later? haha
@@WizardofW0Zhad the same question bud lol
@@S_Green47 ive had them for 6000 miles and so far theyre great. very quiet ride! 31" on a jeep cherokee trailhawk also not a super heavy vehicle.
whenever Nolan is talking about something i always wait for the Aaron head nod to make sure that it's correct
I didn't realize that I did this too until I read that comment.
Aaron's approval is just something else.
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“WHEELS, TIRES, AND SUSPENSION”
Alex @ FI: 👀
“SOAPY WOADER”
Chris: 👀
Lol
This is the least knowledgeable off road testing I have ever watched and it's absolutely great ! Keep up the awesome content 🤙😂
Crazy that they were surprised airing down would help
Couldn't agree more, the Nitto's will out-perform the cheap knockoffs in every scientific test, but this was an entertainment test and absolutely fantastic. 💯
I would have welded on some DIY bead locks from ballistic fab
💯
Really am appreciative of this series as I’m about to upgrade the suspension and eventually tires on my truck. Thank you thank you gentlemen!
Nolan’s response to “you sound like a hi team boy rn” was so meticulous and calculated 😂😂😂😂
that shiitt killed me lmfao
He sounded so offended by that too😂
"soapy worder" I see you Zach, watching chrisfix
so they’re making low and high truck into the integra thing DOPE
This was a great comparison video showing that anyone can enjoy the 4X4 experience and not break the bank! Great episode!
Love that “soapy wooder” reference Chrisfix would love this
Ye ikr underrated
Why didn't yall let nolan have the expensive parts this season? 😢
that’s what I was wondering. Low team probably needs a nerf because they have Aaron.
@@heroichitsuji high team has jobe though so i mean kinda on the same lvl in my opinion
Honestly I can see him choosing to have low again
Agreed they shoulda swapped
Nolan can barely even do the rock crawl 😂 let him get more experience
If this series was european it would have been called HILUX / LOWLUX.
Underrated comment!!!
Send this to the top boys
Lmoa
@@fabianfrl4332 aoml
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I have the kenda klever rts and love them. They are beastly and work really well in wet and snow conditions. (Missed getting a snow rating by 3 points, could have just been driver error that cost them the rating). Great overall tires. I got my 35 by 12.5 tires for my tundra for under 1000. Cant beat that
Just bought a pair same size. I get snow in the NE. I can't wait
Nolan is really gonna be increasing his mechanic skills through this whole season
It is funny seeing on-road guys doing off-road stuff, I was laughing when James didn't think airing down would help. That's like off-road rule #1 😂😂
He also chose nittos at an insane price for psuedo 33's.
I just bought 34's this week and while looking for a friend without a CMC I saw those in stock online for 289 in that size.
I thought rule №1 was 'let someone know where you are going and when to expect you back.'
Not rule #1 but I agree and was thinking the same thing. I’m usually at 10psi for general offroading and 8psi for the rocks and sand. Also not on beadlocks just $60 steelies
Nolan: "You know I'd never risk my health for entertainment."
Me: *chokes on my glass of milk*
Vietnam flashbacks to the Kia challenge punishments, pre heart attack
Milk is so gross
Flashback to when he slept in his car for a week
@@stilldomi what did you just say?
@@zeteroxx maybe he is lactose in tolerant or just no life no attention troll
You guys are like the myth busters for car parts, love it
“Budget doesn’t have an impact on doing things correctly” spittin
Mounting tires by hand, IS still doing things correctly. Just because you have a machine to do it, doesn't make it correct. Ask any 88M in the Army.
I'll take a scratch on the inside of my rims any day
I love watching people learning to off road. It brings a tear to my eye. Keep up these great truck videos guys! Loving it! What a lot of viewers might not know is the majority of off roading is driver skill/technique. Tires need to be tested in mud/sand/rain/snow/ice/rocks/etc.... Love it!
Love seeing first gen tacos on LoHi, but having someone around with some off-road experience would be pretty helpful. Both of those trucks could handle all those obstacles in their stock form
I've been having the same thought! Love these guys to death but this is painful to watch lol
Id be curious to see if the stock tires aired down would of made it up the hill. Cool season!
It’s a Tacoma I can almost guarantee you that it would have but not as smoothly
It’s a Tacoma I can almost guarantee you that it would have but not as smoothly
This showed everyone that you don’t need a crazy expensive setup to off-road! You can build with a budget and do fine!
Honestly mud terrains aired down on a stock 4x4 is enough to do a lot of trails. I did it for awhile.
Low truck is actually getting some pretty decent parts. It’s like hi-trok and mid-truck. Also air down those beadlocks to like 8psi and the steelies to like 12
That’s what I was thinking. They could be using $50/ea steelies from summit racing, a $300 eBay lift, and some federal tires. These tests are also pretty bad. They don’t show the true difference between high and low products. You buy good tires for traction, but also puncture protection, lifetime, sidewall strength, warranties, wear patterns, etc. But they didn’t do any high speed traction test. And those Icons shine in speed over desert terrain, not slow crawling
I prefer that for low truck.
The last season they constantly used the cheapest crappiest thing they could find. Which yeah it worked but in a lot of cases they were just cheap bad quality garbage. Id rather see something thats cheaper, but still a quality product.
@@mikerossi7634 I agree with the puncture protection. I run BFG K02 tires and over 20 years in the desert I have never had a flat. I rock crawl some but a lot of high speed desert fun so I am sold on K02 tires.
I wouldn’t be taking any Steelers down to 12 Psi
I smashed a tyre off the bead at 18psi on steelies was a shit of a time
@@karlschwaber7006 yep BFG KO2s are solid and worth it! I switched over to Falken Wildpeaks a few years and haven't had a single issue either. I ran them for a while on a 2004 Suburban and that thing RIPPED forest roads, now I have them on my 3rd gen Tacoma TRD OR. Back in February I bought 4x 265/75r16 for $720 out the door for the non-LT version. Best deal in high quality ATs in my opinion.
Aaron needs his own show. Man can drive and build, plus he's got that steel cool factor.
🤘🏾thanks homie. I love taking on new challenges. We'll see if we can come up with something dope
One thing that was not discussed is the amount of weight used to balance the tires. Tires that start out well balanced usually wear and maintain balance better.
The most difference in cheap or expensive tires is when the wear down starts. Expensive tires probably will last longer time.
Depends on the rubber softness. For All terrains they will last years regardless. Expensive tires are softer for better grip
@@jeffmayo6002 guaranteed Nitto will outlast the kenda
I mean yes, they may last 10% longer, but they’re twice as expensive. It just isn’t worth it.
Hell most off brand AT tires have a 40-50k mile warranty these days too
The nitto will not only last longer, but they'll have a milage warranty to back it up. And they'll wear significantly better.
Negative. The speed of a tire wearing down mostly depends on the rubber compound. The softer the compound the quicker it wears off.
I just cant put to words how much B E T T E R this is than cable television.
Love you Donut
Right, good luck finding a show on TV this informative and entertaining.
Lewis Hamilton and Nolan make a great team
😂😅
You must live in a pretty white place lol
I am quite happy with my (33×12.5 R15) Falken Wild Peak AT3W's. Smooth ride, great in the rain and less road noise than the tires on my car.
James: “yours look like they’re from World War II, ours look like they’re from the freaking terminator”
Also James: “I think I prefer the look of low trucks tyres”
Guess he likes World War II more
Those ww2 tires did work all the time :D
Yeah that was an interesting turn of events
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As an off road guy watching non offroad guys offroad, thank you for this level of quality entertainment.
Same dude I was dying. It's just as good as off roaders trying to drift.
@@RandomStuffGarage619 hey man don’t underestimate some off-roaders dirt drifting capabilities, some of these trucks can SWING
@@mikeymancha2594 I beleive you if we are talking about a rwd prerunner or something lol vaugh gitten jr seems to know how to to both extremely well!
Can’t begin to share how much I love that you’ve entered the off road content market. You could start a whole separate off-road channel and hit 1mil subs within a few months. Keep up the amazing content!
I would take low teams tires for the cheap price and high teams wheels for the security of the bead lock.
Y'all need to do a high speed test like the Baja trucks. That's where those coilovers will really shine with those external resi's to keep them cool
A mint 400 lap
“Soapy wooder”
Love it.
CHRIS FIX!!!
Y’all should make Stockies of these once you finish releasing this season; would 1,000% buy.
Are those the donut media underground emojis I want them soo bad 😩😩
@@oilapesmotoring8933 Yessir!
@@oilapesmotoring8933
I want a Silverado Stocky
The trucks in the intro are stockies!!!
Kenda makes some awesome tires! The airing down part was excellent, but the big thing people need to realize is it’s unnecessary for a vast majority of the trails they do… do it if you want, or don’t. Great video! I’m worried the more people learn about Kendas, the more expensive they’ll become.
I’ve been riding and loving kenda’s mountain bike tires for years and only just learned they made stuff for trucks.
Ive had my Kenda Klever RT's for a year now...absolutely love em.
My kenda trailer tires are the best I've ever had by a wide margin.
The fact that you guys bought Tacomas has me smiling and excited for this season. I have a 1998 Toyota 4Runner and once I get everything repaired, I'll have some references 😉
i run 33"'s with bilsteins and tokico black shocks from a landcrusier in my 2000 4Runner. Nearly identical to low setup with maybe a few changes here or there for looks and durability but dude it does wonders. Gotta get into it!
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That thing better have a turbo diesel lol
I’ve had both sets of those tires……on steel wheels I can air down 12 off-road in the front and 14 in the rear. It’s perfect for sand and off road. Where nitto truly shines is the fact the ridge grapplers will last 85k miles easily with rotations. 40k on the Kendra
The only one ive found to give nitto a run is the amp terrain attack...i would say the nitto and amo are middle of the road mickey ts are high end
No way, my terra grapplers lasted about 35k 80/20 off/on road
I’ve got 65k on my current terra grapplers right now. I rotate every other oil change (7k miles)
@@DJ.EddyBru size and climate may make difference also, mine are 34” i believe 305/55/20 on a tundra, phoenix (hot as shit) i can still drive on them no issues, but the tread is so low they will not hook up off road very good, and suck in wet pavement from lack of sips, but they did really good off road when they still had tread
@@DJ.EddyBru i had some abt two yrs ago they lasted me abt 82k i hoping the amps will do the same they seem to b on the rite path 4 sure
"Budget doesn't have an impact on doing things correctly"
Yeah Nolan you're right!
More exspensive tires do make a difference with grip on offroading and crawling
“Daily drivers you can literally take anywhere”
Except the ocean…
*WhistlingDiesel has entered the chat!
Kosal Chum I have one
Jeremy Clarkson with his Toyboata in '14
I thought the same thing lol.
Ehhhh farm truck too. Look up farm boat.
😂😂😂🤪
Steelies for the win in my book, less hassle offroad when you hit some rocks the wrong way.
Exactly. If your offloading steelies are the way to go.
@@brandonnufer3670 YEP, BEAT UM BACK IN SHAPE.
Yeah but the point of this was making a daily that you CAN take anywhere
If that was the point than beadlocks hi-team used are out ,as most places define them as "offroad use only". Steeles for the dub 🤣I like the look of the alloy rims rims, but durable they are not. Good for sandy desert stuff or maybe mud, but rocks and brittle metal alloys are not the best of friends.
alloys are stronger. that being said if something catestrophic happened steel is easier to replace/repair.
Hi-low is defo one of the coolest series on youtube ever
Ive been in the off road industry since the early 1970’s and I have been telling customers the same thing since the early 1980’s. You guys hit the nail on the head, if part A is 500$ more than part B will you receive a 500$ improvement. If you only get a 100$ improvement then I always felt the lower cost (unless of course you have unlimited cash flow) was a better choice. Starter fluid is even better and more explosive! You’re right 80-100$ to mount and balance those non bead lock tires, that’s a deal unless you have a mega buck balancer sitting in your garage. I’m very familiar with Gorman, that very hill can be idled up that hill with stock tires and if you’re on a real budget a 300$ lunchbox locker. But hey the glitter looks trick driving on the I5 freeway. Entertaining video gentlemen!
Kenda Klever A/Ts are awesome tires!!! Kenda has really been stepping up!
The welded dif vs full lockers will be the most drastic change guaranteed
Lol I love how these guys are giving advice while knowing almost nilch about the subject 🤣
Yeah - like you guys are not even going to lock the rear diff to do a tug of war? Ok.
@@skyerunner I don't know much about Tacomas but if they're anything like our Australian counterpart the hilux then this year model wouldn't come stock with a rear locker
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I also... Do not know about the subject 🔥🔥🔥
As an off roader this episode had me ROFL! 15 psi max low on bead locks😂 I run 10psi without bead locks. Good show boys!
Max low is minimum
*laughs in 2psi on steel rims with 38"* which is honestly not the lowest we go, i've gone as low as 0.5 psi to save my ass, but then im up to 2 psi right away. have never debeaded. and i've watched people with beadlocks debead while running the same pressure. it's all about skill and how your wheels are :D
@@arnarmar96 the type of tire makes a massive difference. My buddy on 38" tractor tires and run basically valveless without bead locks but my Patagonias wanna pop off below 12psi
@@SketchyAsFunk Sure does, but the rim also makes an even bigger difference. for example, if your tyre is 14.50" wide, like in my case, you want to be running a 14" wide rim. atleast for snow and mud, but for rock crawling i know that is another story.
@@arnarmar96 how do you not pop a beed with that wide of a wheel at 2psi? There is no way
This is his you should start off a Sunday morning.
Yes
Check out them words 😎
Huh?
In my case, afternoon
Me: looks outside its dark
This instantly became my favourite season of any show you guys have done.
Went out and got me a set of them Kenda Klever AT2's...they are performing as advertised. Perfect AT Tire for the off-road weekend warrior who uses his truck on pavement during the week days...off the chart value!
BEST HI LOW SEASON SO FAR!!LOVE THE TACOMAS!
15 psi? I've gotten away with as low as 8 without debeading in my Toyota. The difference made is huge!
Benefits of this show:
- Cool truck fun
- Team building
What would have also been cool to see is how the fuel economy in the city and on the highway were impacted with having an increased tire weight. Just interesting to see.
Dramatically. I went from 18 to 14 mpg average.
Beadlocks aren't street legal
Tip when installing a tyre with brakecleaner and a torch. Take out the inner part of the valve. This will prevent the tire from going vacuum as was seen in the video.
We definitely removed it but maybe the tire just had a ton of volume and the flame ate all the oxygen? I think next time me and Nolan will be F1 fast styles on it👌🏾
@@aaronparker3559 u da best aaron
@@aaronparker3559 good point im comparing it to just simple size road use tires these are way bigger en de valve size didnt change thats why it still went vacuum i asume.
You can get screw on fittings, use a length of hose back to a ball valve then more hose back to the compressor.
Ball valve closed and compressor on / full tank, light up the fluid.
Then from a safe distance you can dump high pressure air in very quickly.
We also normally use a gas like "start ya bastard".
Again, this is done with the inner valve steam removed so that the air can flow faster.
Once the tire is sealed up, you can take off the fill hose, replace the valve and pump up.
Sorry, but your tests are flawed.
Climbing a the same complete length of dirt hill does not say if one set of tires is better then the other.
It just says both sets "pass" that test.
You need a hill that progressively increases in difficulty so that not even a tracked vehicle can make it to the top.
Now that no vehicle can "pass" the test, you can compare how far along each fails and gather REAL data.
A skilled offroader can air down any set of tires to as low as 10-15 psi.
Just drive slowly and don't steer unless moving forwards / backwards.
Bead locks let you air down to even 3 psi.
You also need to test in thick mud.
Some features of better off road tires are more plyable sidewalls, allowing better flex and thus a larger contact patch.
Deep chunky tread on the sidewalls helps when crawling through the mud.
Even the ability of different tread designs changes the ability to throw mud off the wheels and "self-clean".
Driving for a while at a moderate speed will normally throw the mud off, but spinning your tires whilst struggling for grip is where quality tires make a difference.
I've had "no-name" tires that turned into clay soaked racing slicks while quality tires on the same hill gripped like snow chains.
There is of course a balance point at which point the advantage isn't worth the cost, but your tests haven't reached that point.