THE ULTIMATE BUDGET SURGE TANK FROM ALLOYWORKS!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- This new surge tank from #Alloyworks may just be the best bang for your buck right now for a great internal multi-pump surge tank without breaking the bank!
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Seen these on ebay and had been wondering about them. Price is definitely right!
Maybe people can think of it like an electrical Capacitor. It stores reserve "energy", then quickly dumps it under heavy load. Doesn't need large system to recharge, but can charge and discharge quickly to support heavy load.
Thats a great way to look at it. Ever since I made the original radium surge tank vidoe a few years ago the biggest thing people just dont seem to get is you really dont need much pump at all. Matter of fact when I contacted radium and asked how big a pump I should run in the stock tank if I was using triple 450s in the surge tank, their response was "Your stock pump would probably be fine". I only went with the aeromotive 340 pump/sending unit setup because i had already gotten rid of the stock pump and I needed a new sending unit. Plus their sending unit simplified the connections at the tank. I would have just went with their 200lph setup but it wasnt rated for use with e85.
All these sirge tank shenanigans really have me thinking about puting stock tank back in the truck and running a surge.
Thats why I used one on CC. It allowed me to keep the stock tank capacity and location.
@@BadLuckGarage I think my original idea was to keep the tank away from the drive shaft.
@@BlaserBuilds Probably not a bad idea depending on the driveshaft. That ranger makes some serious steam now!
im glad i came across it for my mustang LS swap. instead of having to weld the tank or get a new one or blah blah blah i can put this in the spare tire well in the trunk and it keeps enough fuel in there that it keeps the pumps fed with the correct fuel and just use my stock in tank pump to fill the surge tank. most of the surge tanks hold like a gallon or more in them and you arent going to drain that tank under full throttle which is the entire point of the surge. it seems like a no brainer to me when setting up a car if you were gonna up grade the fuel system. the pumps he mentions the 525 are the Hellcat Pumps even so you can have two hellcat pumps in the surge feeding the engine
I'm at the end of my single 450 intank with E85 and 80 lb injectors on my 4.8 Turbo.
Anything above 18 psi goes lean.
I've got a set of 525 Hellcat pumps for the surge tank.
Glad I found your video today
Glad you found it helpful!
excellent! Great product. I will be picking one up as soon as I get to the fuel system on my build! Thank you
Don’t forget to use the discount code!
I know what I'm watching tonight at work 🤣
When it came time to edit, Robert said “F-it, ima just send it!” Lmao missed you brother just glad to see a video!
I believe it just had to chuckle. First portion of the video is unedited then it loops back and repeats with edits. All good tho don’t get me wrong I’m not criticizing I’m that way. It’s all in fun. Keep up the good work!
I just watched it for the first time and saw what you’re talking about. My editing software crashed in the middle of editing and now I see it undid a lot of the cuts I had made. 🤦🏼♂️ I’m gonna try to fix it within UA-cam but their already uploaded video editing options are shit.
Thanks for letting me know brother. I fixed it the best i could without doing a reupload.
@@BadLuckGarage all good. I noticed it was gone for a hot minute. Sent a link to a buddy of mine to check out and he couldn’t view it. Going to tell him to try again now. Have a good rest of your night and happy early thanks giving
Again I really appreciate you letting me know brother. I had to work and I’ve had a REALLY busy weekend so didn’t really have time to review it after editing or after uploading I was in such a hurry to get it out. So what happened was after I had already edited those clips my software crashed. When I opened it back up it automatically reloaded the last project BUT apparently it also reloaded a duplicate unedited clip of the stuff I had already edited and I just didn’t realize it. What’s funny is I was thinking “why the hell is this video almost 30 minutes long after all the footage I cut out???” Now I know why,lol. After I chopped the unedited footage out it’s now just 20 minutes. But at least you got to see an example of just how much editing is done just in a 10 minute take. 🤣👍
I recently found your channel and wanted to ask a question if you had time id appreciate any thoughts you may have. I have a 8.1 from a 2004 chevy 2500hd. Put it in a military humvee with the stcok harness and pcm. Deleted vats with ho tuner. I watched one of your videos on how to do that properly so I'm going to recheck it. I have an issue where I'm not getting spark. My computer seems to see all sensors except no cranking rpm for some reason. I thinned the harnesses but removing transmission portions. Everything else is in tact. I've got no power to the coil packs but i do to the coil harness. I've got 12v hot to fuse block directly from the battery. I've got all the grounds I've found on the back of the heads everywhere I've tested even cranking seems to have power my father cranked while i checked. Just no power to coil packs themselves and no cranking rpm shown in my hp tuners software. I hate to bother anyone by asking but I'm at a loss. I was going to check next to see if i can find the data transfer wire from the crank sensors to see of that is sending it. It has signal off of the sensor to send but i dont know if the pcm is getting the signals. I don't know exactly how the engine reads the engine speed and if it dont see it what happens. If you dont have time to respond i understand. Thank you and have a good day
Hey! I did this and it’s awesome. I have a question though, do you know how much back pressure you have going to the fuel tank? I’m seeing about 20psi
i saw these also, awesome
Yea they’re a great budget option. Now I guess I’m gonna have to build something new to put it in. Lol
Wow. Great price ‼️
Mine works pretty good. Wish I would had gotten with ya before I bought mine 🙂
I do too brother, but you didn’t know. I shouted you out toward the end of the video though.
@BadLuckGarage thanks, going to watch rest of it here in a bit, just watched some of it yesterday
@@CarportGarageDragRacing It was actually messed up. I had to re-edit it some last night and chopped 8 minutes out of the middle of it. Long story but it’s only a 20 minute video now. Lol.
@@BadLuckGarage thanks so very much for the shout out
Just ordered mine from eBay thanks for the amazing review! Do you happen to know what size the barbs are for the overflow and return. looks like 3/8 from the video
Easy explanation of why you don't need a big pump in your fuel tank to feed the surge is.
The pump in your fuel tank is a regular joe running there's nothing slowing him down he's just running as fast as he can
The pump or pumps in your surge tank are Usain Bolt but they're trying to run with a 100mph headwind up hill so it evens out.
Long story short the pump in your fuel tank is just flowing fuel it doesn't need any pressure so it can shoot out that fuel with no struggle, the ones in the surge are forcing the fuel through your injectors they need to build fuel pressure they're working harder to make the same flow rate
I can't seem to find the surge tank. Did they stop making it
I saw these when i was building my new fuel system. Only thing I was wondering is the radium unit spins the fuel return from engine to not airate the fuel... I didnt know since the return just goes straight in if you would notice airation? I love the price of these units though!
Yes that’s one of the cheap modifications I was talking about that my buddy shows in his UA-cam channel. You should check out his install videos😉 Obviously the Radium units have a few more features that I outlined in the radium surge tank video a few years ago, but they’re also twice the price. This tank gives you a way more cost effective option if you don’t really need those features. 👍
should I run all the pumps with checkvalves even in the main tank? or would it be fine because it would not see more pressure.
@@skaterboi8922 Any secondary pump in the surge tank needs a check valve. My suggestion is use a pump that has one built in.
@@BadLuckGarage im planning to run a single pump and then the lift, im only using surge tank cuz ion want 13b to lean out. unrelated sidenote, did the company stop making them? i can only find osias ones.
@@skaterboi8922 The oasis tanks are identical. And cheaper. Alloy Works sent me this one to review, then stopped stocking them a few months after the video was made. But the Oasis ones on eBay are about $100 cheaper anyway so it’s a win win. 👍 Yes you can definitely just run a single pump in there and just block off the other pump outlet. No need for a check valve. Both your pull-up pump and the single pump in the surge tank will need to run all the time. You can just leave a stock pump as a pull-up pump and then run whatever pump you want in the surge tank. The pull-up pump doesn’t need to be a monster.
How about for a 2020 Silverado 427LT?
Surge tanks are universal fitment. You can make them work in pretty much anything.
If you don’t understand the concept of a surge tank or how it works, I suggest watching the video I made on the radium surge tank where I explain how it works.
ua-cam.com/video/4-xiSydAnfU/v-deo.htmlsi=OzjXlcpv61eWo11V
Say chaos theory ONE MORE TIME!
Chaos Theory ONE MORE TIME
@@BadLuckGarage haha! I bought this surge tank today, same one on eBay , thanks for the heads up.
@@b00st_SS good deal!🤘
link says page not found
That generally means they’re out of stock.
do video,,,how long of a time till it runs dry ?
It doesn’t run dry. That’s the point of running a surge tank. 😉
so the stock pump can feed two bigger pumps and never run out?? ya thats hard to wrap the brain around,,10-15 seconds sounds easy but non stop,,@@BadLuckGarage
@RussellCompton-fh3gr If you were making 2,000hp and were somehow in a situation where you were able to hold the throttle wide open on that 2000hp vehicle for more than 15 seconds then you may have a problem. Fortunately there’s not really a scenario where that would be possible without dying. And under normal driving conditions, most of the fuel being pumped out that the engine isn’t using is simply being returned back to the surge tank along with additional fuel being pumped in from your lift pump. This keeps the surge tank in a perpetual state of overflow. If you understand how a surge tank works then it’s not so hard to wrap your head around. I’d suggest watching my more in depth video on the radium surge tank that we run in our twin turbo Camaro. It may help you understand a bit better.
got it,, thanks@@BadLuckGarage
@@RussellCompton-fh3gr No problem brother. 👍
Can you fit a 525 on there ?
ua-cam.com/video/iEXqA4mlH8o/v-deo.htmlsi=yugU13NWMpLfO2rn
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I'll help ya test it 😂😂
I may have to take you up in that.
@BadLuckGarage just let me know I've got 2 525s I'm gonna use this next time. Lol
@@Boost_HQ I’m assuming you want it for the burnout truck? I smell a collaboration coming. Cause that’s exactly what you need in that thing. That way you can run the tank low and keep weight off the rearend and not have to worry about fuel slosh like last time.
@BadLuckGarage yep exactly what I was thinking 🤣 but yeah I'm pulling the 5.3 for a refresh but im gonna compete in a few different events next year. I'll send you a message on Facebook
@@Boost_HQ I saw your video and how you’re talking about doing a cheap A2W. I might be able to help you make it even cheaper if you’re not gonna need the truck again till next year. We’ll talk about it. 😉
Jan 2024: Item doesn't exist anymore.
Yea I’m not sure if they’re just sold out right now or what because they still have the fuel manifold for these in stock. 🤷🏼♂️
I have contacted Alloy Works and I was correct. The link is broken because they are temporarily out of the stock. Here was their response.
“Unfortunately, that product is temporarily out of stock on our website and will not be restocked for a month at the earliest”
@@BadLuckGarage 👍