Just finished the fuel system in my is300, surge tank is the way to go for sure.(For me at least) twin aeromotive 340s seem to want to do the job for now. I ended up fabricating mine out of a 2.5 gallon fuel cell from ebay with various bulkhead fittings for the feeds, returns, and electrical pass throughs.
You could use the Holly Hydromat which I used inside my 2004 WRX STI fuel tank with a Full Blown brand fuel hanger with dual Walbro 450 lph fuel pumps. It worked great and didn’t experience fuel starvation on sweeping turns. Fuel was full E85. This solution kept the fuel system simple and doing it at a lower cost. Feed and return fuel line used from the hanger was -8an ptfe fuel line and fittings to an aftermarket fuel rail with fuel dampeners, Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator.
What are your thoughts on adding fuel cell foam to a factory tank? Similar to aeromotives fuel bowl made out of foam idea. In my s13 tank the pump hanger hole is large enought that I was able to cut and stuff the factory tank full with foam after I removed the factory baffle that had fallen off after 30 years anyways. Hoping to mitigate fuel slosh to keep the pump happy under acceleration.
@@AftermarketInd the factory fuel bowl is intact. S13 baffle if you want to call it that was not a large piece. Just trying to mitigate slosh from the bowl under heavy acceleration.
Hi Jay, would love to hear a professional opinion on mechanical pumps for the JZ and RB series. Not much info on these pumps out there and how streetable they are.
I just wanted to say thank you, this was educational and could have saved a car, life, house, etc. knowledge is so valuable. First time watcher, and I’m sticking around. Tyia and love the content
I would love an what would you do. I have a 95 neon acr that's built to the gills 😂. Long story short I found the car and iv been bringing her back. I'm dailing her and doing some racing mostly roll racing although I'd love to do some autox next year. I currently have a fuel cell with a sump and a a1000 foward of the cross member and tank which I'm not sure is great😅. Any who car makes 600hp as is so iv been hesitant to make big changes as I don't have spares and these things are getting surprisingly rare and hard to find. That being said It always smells like someone poored gas into the floorboard and it definitely starves for fuel in turns breaking ECT. I don't have a factory tank but I own a bodyshop and can do every job in the shop. I wanna cut the spare tire well out in the trunk and make a big new tank also giving me a nicer more useful trunk. In said tank I thought about partitioning it into 1/3s with baffles and a big tall space for the big sump for the a1000. I'm cheap and it works plus I kinda like the sound of it 😂.I have a aem stealth 340 but am willing to get another pump as a lift pump. That being said the car is turbo limited ATM and that's changing but within the 7/8 fuel line (hard line)s limits. Does this sound viable? Or should I just get a few of the 340s and go with that in said sump? Or do you have a better idea? Maybe an off the shelf solution that would still give me 15gal+ . I'm not super into a steel tank in the crash area and no liner... I don't know how to make one of those or who does
I have to disagree about sumped steel tanks. It's not like there's a big hole the size of the sump is cutout and the sump installed. The sump is baffled by several small hole saw openings being drilled,then the sump installed. That being said, I've now used a sump tank and they work like a champ!!
Nice video! I have a problem with my gates rubber submersible fuel hose. Keeps leaking and popping off. Seems to be breaking down aswell. What other hose do u recommend??
i use a 10lt fuel cell surge tank and run an Aeromotive ext pump and stock e85 pump in the fuel tank to feed the surge i have1800hp on tap and leaning out the fuel isn't an option
Great video, Jay. Learned a lot from this one and saved me a lot of time from researching right now while trying to figure out what’s best for my car. I’m currently swapping a 2JZ in my 350z and no one makes a 3 pump hanger for my car. The goal is to make 1400whp. Would you recommend a surge tank?
LOL this reminds me of a younger me with my Vw 1.8T, installing an additional in-line fuel pump just before the fuel rail. Made for an interesting sight, but dont know if it actually helped at all or the opposite...
My guy trying to fit two pumps in one hole reminded me of the infomercial where someone throws pasta in the sink because they don’t know what a colander is.
On external pumps I always run as large of a feed as possible and what ever size feed that will meet my hp goals, -8 will get you over 800 on gas and maybe 700 or more on e85 depending on fuel pressure, pro stock cars from the 700s made over 600 hp with 3/8s fuel lines and a old school mechanical fuel pump
Sooo glad you did this video! I've mentioned surge tanks many times on forums/pages throughout the years and people weren't very receptive, I believe from lack of understanding. After using one on my non OE efi car (70 Chevelle) 8 years ago, i highly recommend it as an excellent solution. Thanks for all the great videos Jay !
Sooo glad you did this video! I've mentioned surge tanks many times on forums/pages throughout the years and people weren't very receptive, I believe from lack of understanding. After using one on my non OE efi car (70 Chevelle) 8 years ago, i highly recommend it as an excellent solution. Thanks for all the great videos Jay !
Awesome video as always, you missed some of the potential down sides of a surge tank though. Again you might be putting fuel in a place it is less safe. The fuel lines can smell, they can be louder than oem, they can still get hot due to the low volume of fuel surrounding the pumps. Agree it is one of the better options but in a pure street car with a good tank, in tank is much nicer to live with if you can make it work.
Wow, learnt more in this video than I'd ever learn elsewhere. This is God tier information for anyone building a street/racecar! Jay is a legend and wizard!
What do you recommend for a 2019 Infinit Q50 Red Sport we deal with fuel cavitation and starvation after half a tank and it goes very bad when cornering
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Same. It would be interesting to see what y’all think about solutions for off-road trucks. They have a really rough life.
Ofcourse this guy here lol
All day , I check ✔️ Then you know catch it later ... This UA-cam is absolutely all I know .. dang near
Love the way you explain things jay. It’s like going to school for race car building. Thanks so much
It's literally free education of the highest level for automotive information
Just finished the fuel system in my is300, surge tank is the way to go for sure.(For me at least) twin aeromotive 340s seem to want to do the job for now. I ended up fabricating mine out of a 2.5 gallon fuel cell from ebay with various bulkhead fittings for the feeds, returns, and electrical pass throughs.
That's awesome! Great to hear you have put together a nicely done fuel system.
@@realstreetperformance you guys supplied my pistons, your guy Ariel gets a 👍for giving me a great deal
You could use the Holly Hydromat which I used inside my 2004 WRX STI fuel tank with a Full Blown brand fuel hanger with dual Walbro 450 lph fuel pumps. It worked great and didn’t experience fuel starvation on sweeping turns. Fuel was full E85. This solution kept the fuel system simple and doing it at a lower cost. Feed and return fuel line used from the hanger was -8an ptfe fuel line and fittings to an aftermarket fuel rail with fuel dampeners, Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator.
Was planning on that for my nova when I start drifting it…🤔🤔🤔👌🏻
@@sacrificialrubber779 I use the 15x3" one in my LSA silverado, it's fucking gold
I'm installing the Radium multi pump on my eclipse gsx, still uploading videos. Perfect timing!
Jay and real street FTW with all this wealth of knowledge!
This was a great video. Thank you for this technical breakdown of the pros and cons of different systems
i am a surge tank believer now.
Thanks Jay. Great explanation. Very informative.
Did you guys enter the danger ranger race again this year??
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What are your thoughts on adding fuel cell foam to a factory tank? Similar to aeromotives fuel bowl made out of foam idea. In my s13 tank the pump hanger hole is large enought that I was able to cut and stuff the factory tank full with foam after I removed the factory baffle that had fallen off after 30 years anyways. Hoping to mitigate fuel slosh to keep the pump happy under acceleration.
foams function with respect to baffling is very poor
@@AftermarketInd the factory fuel bowl is intact. S13 baffle if you want to call it that was not a large piece. Just trying to mitigate slosh from the bowl under heavy acceleration.
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say 20gpm?
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Hi Jay, would love to hear a professional opinion on mechanical pumps for the JZ and RB series. Not much info on these pumps out there and how streetable they are.
ua-cam.com/video/nO5rVlj99fE/v-deo.html great info
I just wanted to say thank you, this was educational and could have saved a car, life, house, etc. knowledge is so valuable. First time watcher, and I’m sticking around. Tyia and love the content
LET'S GO JAY!!🏁
Good information once again Jay...
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great video what about the people making over 1800+hp can you do a fuel solutions video for mechanical fuel pumps and how to set it up correctly
We will be releasing a Mechanical surge tank setup shortly through realstreet
@@AftermarketInd Looking forward to seeing the mechanical fuel surge tank.
Thanks Jay!!! Well explained!!! I need to pick your brain a bit...
Surge tanks are the goat
I would love an what would you do. I have a 95 neon acr that's built to the gills 😂. Long story short I found the car and iv been bringing her back. I'm dailing her and doing some racing mostly roll racing although I'd love to do some autox next year. I currently have a fuel cell with a sump and a a1000 foward of the cross member and tank which I'm not sure is great😅. Any who car makes 600hp as is so iv been hesitant to make big changes as I don't have spares and these things are getting surprisingly rare and hard to find. That being said It always smells like someone poored gas into the floorboard and it definitely starves for fuel in turns breaking ECT. I don't have a factory tank but I own a bodyshop and can do every job in the shop. I wanna cut the spare tire well out in the trunk and make a big new tank also giving me a nicer more useful trunk. In said tank I thought about partitioning it into 1/3s with baffles and a big tall space for the big sump for the a1000. I'm cheap and it works plus I kinda like the sound of it 😂.I have a aem stealth 340 but am willing to get another pump as a lift pump. That being said the car is turbo limited ATM and that's changing but within the 7/8 fuel line (hard line)s limits. Does this sound viable? Or should I just get a few of the 340s and go with that in said sump? Or do you have a better idea? Maybe an off the shelf solution that would still give me 15gal+ . I'm not super into a steel tank in the crash area and no liner... I don't know how to make one of those or who does
I have to disagree about sumped steel tanks. It's not like there's a big hole the size of the sump is cutout and the sump installed. The sump is baffled by several small hole saw openings being drilled,then the sump installed. That being said, I've now used a sump tank and they work like a champ!!
Nice video! I have a problem with my gates rubber submersible fuel hose. Keeps leaking and popping off. Seems to be breaking down aswell. What other hose do u recommend??
i use a 10lt fuel cell surge tank and run an Aeromotive ext pump and stock e85 pump in the fuel tank to feed the surge i have1800hp on tap and leaning out the fuel isn't an option
Great video, Jay. Learned a lot from this one and saved me a lot of time from researching right now while trying to figure out what’s best for my car.
I’m currently swapping a 2JZ in my 350z and no one makes a 3 pump hanger for my car. The goal is to make 1400whp. Would you recommend a surge tank?
Can you make a video on fuel hose ptfe, etc please 🙏 for fuel system
Hi friend how much pressure This kit 3 fule pump unit
LOL this reminds me of a younger me with my Vw 1.8T, installing an additional in-line fuel pump just before the fuel rail. Made for an interesting sight, but dont know if it actually helped at all or the opposite...
Or max out at 28gpm
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My guy trying to fit two pumps in one hole reminded me of the infomercial where someone throws pasta in the sink because they don’t know what a colander is.
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Great video, a lot of knowledge on an issue I’m sure many people face when putting fuel cells in their cars
If -10 goes from tank to pump should it be -8 out of pump or -10 is fine?
On external pumps I always run as large of a feed as possible and what ever size feed that will meet my hp goals, -8 will get you over 800 on gas and maybe 700 or more on e85 depending on fuel pressure, pro stock cars from the 700s made over 600 hp with 3/8s fuel lines and a old school mechanical fuel pump
Sooo glad you did this video! I've mentioned surge tanks many times on forums/pages throughout the years and people weren't very receptive, I believe from lack of understanding. After using one on my non OE efi car (70 Chevelle) 8 years ago, i highly recommend it as an excellent solution. Thanks for all the great videos Jay !
Sooo glad you did this video! I've mentioned surge tanks many times on forums/pages throughout the years and people weren't very receptive, I believe from lack of understanding. After using one on my non OE efi car (70 Chevelle) 8 years ago, i highly recommend it as an excellent solution. Thanks for all the great videos Jay !
Awesome video as always, you missed some of the potential down sides of a surge tank though. Again you might be putting fuel in a place it is less safe. The fuel lines can smell, they can be louder than oem, they can still get hot due to the low volume of fuel surrounding the pumps. Agree it is one of the better options but in a pure street car with a good tank, in tank is much nicer to live with if you can make it work.
Wow, learnt more in this video than I'd ever learn elsewhere. This is God tier information for anyone building a street/racecar! Jay is a legend and wizard!
Dang…that’s a lot of considerations !
I guess I’ll keep my Corolla stock…
Lol
At what point do you recommend going full mechanical pump vs surge?
I agree with a few others an in depth video explaining the mechanical set-up would be helpful.
@0:35 i've seen this before
I'm so alow that 1 in tank 340 will get the job done lol. #sub1000club
Thank you for your knowledge
What do you recommend for a 2019 Infinit Q50 Red Sport we deal with fuel cavitation and starvation after half a tank and it goes very bad when cornering
Infiniti?? 🤣the hell are you tuning that thing for? If you have a bucketless pump, that's your problem.