An Extremists Way Of Finishing Walnut
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
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This walnut dining table is in dire need of a new finish. I know the internet is flooded with hardwax oils right now, and they seem easy to use. But trust me, it's worth learning how to finish wood (especially walnut) to last generations! So throw out your easy finishes and enjoy the video!
0:00 Intro
1:24 Disassembly
4:43 Yikes!
6:26 Water popping and pore filler
10:54 Color correcting
14:17 Clear finish
18:19 Those pesky dust nibs
19:20 FINAL SHOTS
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Other youtubers are more of a show and tell, you bring a masterclass. Well done. Great narration.
Thank you so much. Thats very kind and I have some pretty awesome new videos so please check them out! Thanks for watching!
You have amazing videos. I love your attention to detail when making your projects. I appreciate the fact that there is no swearing and u give amazing detail. I wish I could win the lottery to come visit your shop. Keep up the amazing work
Thank you so much! I appreciate you watching different videos!
This is definitely a level of attention to detail I’ve never come across before
Well thank you! Woodworking can be as simple, or as complex as the artist makes it.
Finally, someone on UA-cam sees these finishes as not best for high use areas. I think the wood whisperer has a great video on comparing different finishes and it shows how well they fare.
Yes sir! I've seen his video. And he also agreed that hardwax oil doesn't last that long in his latest walnut table video, but then he sprayed it with Lacquer, which is not rated for tables. So I trust his judgment, but I don't think he knows what a truly remarkable finish is... yet. He is one of my favorites on UA-cam though
I don’t think anyone would disagree that hard wax oil is not the ultimate for protection on pieces such as worktops or heavily used tables. The hints are there - wax and oil. However, for me, the most durable solutions require professional spray systems and a professional sprayer. The vast majority of us do not have the equipment or the expertise to spray the perfect finish (I would also add that there are significant health risks to spraying some finishes without the correct protective equipment).
You could hand varnish the product; if you want or like that plastic aesthetic. Varnish is quite impermeable (but not completely and will not prevent heat or some water stains) but, when it wears, requires a lot of work to prepare the surface for re-varnishing.
Hard wax oil can be applied by a competent woodworker quite easily. It needs no special equipment and the best ones have no VOC’s (good for the woodworker and good for the rest of us). It will wear but repairs or complete re-finish require only cleaning and, perhaps, the lightest of sanding to get a key. We had oak worktops; I hated the look of the varnish that I used once; switched to HWO and was happy to wipe on another coat every 3 or 4 months.
For me, the real advance for us mere mortals is the 2 pack HWO. That means I can apply a coat (the good ones only require a single coat) and it is touch dry in an hour (that does depend on the climate but I’m talking about a normally warm-ish day). I can then either move the piece so that I can get on with other things and/or it means that I don’t have to worry about dust on the air contaminating my finish.
For exactly the same reasons, (aesthetic and ease of finishing) HWO is a very good solution for wooden floors. Again, 2 pack means quicker curing and less dust contamination.
One issue with 2 pack HWO has been the cost. I think it has been set very high and has no relation to cost plus reasonable profit. Perhaps the owners of the company being a venture capital company has something to do with that?
The Wood Whisperer did a recent video comparing 2 pack HWO. Check it out as he is well known for his impartiality and expert opinions. His overall recommendation was a product called Natura Onecoat. I had not heard of it previously as it is new to the US (and I understand soon to be in parts of Europe). I got some and have to say that I agree with the Wood Whisperer. In my view, it is certainly just as good as any other (and I actually prefer it because it seems slightly thicker which may mean more solids and less liquid thinners?) but the real winner is my wallet. Natura is very significantly cheaper than the market leader. So, better and much cheaper?
Just to recap, HWO is not the answer to every finishing situation. I don’t think anything is. HWO however is a very good solution if you want reasonable durability, a natural wood aesthetic, low risk (no personal protection equipment) to you, easy application and (with 2 pack) quick curing.
A really great demo and tutorial on some advanced finishing techniques. This is such an overlooked skill these days, with all the “easy and quick” products out there.
Before I went out on my own, I worked in a large production shop (in my somewhat unusual trade.) Our finisher was a master at color correcting. He had to be, because our mill foreman sucked at wood selection 😂😂! I loved watching him mix and tone and fill, and seeing the magic at the end. This video reminds me of that.
Thank you for a really great demo of an amazing skill. Subbed.
That's some really cool history in your life. I love when things remind us of the old days. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your sub.
There really is too much emphasis on 'quick' with so many furniture makers on YT instead of long lasting high quality finishes like youve shown. I appreciate that.
Thanks for appreciating the content!
Masterclass... That's all I need to say
That's honestly great to hear!
I truly appreciate the level of detail you provide in your videos. I just found your channel about two weeks ago and I have to say you provide some of the best content out there. I have been a hobbyist woodworker for decades but have never really mastered finishing techniques. Please continue to produce this valuable content. You do incredible work.
I'm glad you're getting the most out of it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Yet another demo of the apparently endless things you know. I'd say you did a great job overcoming a lazy craftsman's wood selection, grain matching, and final finishing... and you didn't punk them out, either. Very cool, very classy. I've used TransTint too - a computer/gaming desk for one of the kids. It's scary looking before the finish, yes, but the result is amazing (the desk was/is green... bright, bright green).
Keep up the great work. I look forward to your content every week.
You noticed. What horrible walnut this table had indeed. But it gave me some practice with color correcting again.
A bright green project is something that we all need once in a while! That's very cool! Thanks for watching!
Master class on finishing technique
Thank you! A I appreciate you spending your time watching!
I painted cars for years and sprayed a lot of catalysed finishes. This is by far the best advanced wood finishing video on UA-cam. The operative word for the diyer is "advanced".
This video alone should garner many subscribers (including me).
Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the honest feedback and great support! I appreciate you
Cory, thanks for another great video. You are one of my very favorites on YT. Great woodworking and finishing skills. Great videography. Great storytelling. Thank you! 🙏
You are so welcome and I appreciate your kind comments every video. They help make everything worth it.
Just wow! You are so talented and you have quickly become my favorite channel.
That's amazing to hear! I'm glad you are enjoying it and thank you for your time!
Thank YOU for your time!
That finish really did turn out fantastic! Your so right about not having much quality content on wood finishes, honestly that's a big reason I've gravitated to your videos! Your content has very informative and helpful information that I have actually used (Tried conversion Varnish for the first time after your "shootout video") Keep it up and thank you!
You're welcome and thank you. I appreciate that you try some of the methods and challenge yourself. Thanks for the comments as well!
I love the color correction you did. I forsee so many different possibilities for that process…instruments, firearms, furniture….just awesome, man.
Exactly! I first used this method on guitars. Which have some of the nicest coloration of any type of woodworking! Thanks for watching
There are soooo many good tips in here I can’t choose which one was most valuable!!
Yeah I really tried to jam pack this one with good information. Thank you!
Not many do work like this and share it on UA-cam. Very eye opening to see true high end work. Thanks.
I'm glad you found it interesting! Thanks for watching!
Awesome job. I’m working on a similar project for a friends daughter and will definitely incorporate some of these methods. Thanks. Great video
I appreciate you watching! Good luck!
Excellent content, keep up the good work
Thank you! I will keep pushing along!
Great job on this one!
Thank you! And thanks for spending your time watching my videos
Simply beauty
Thank you!
Love the color "fixin". I, on the other hand, would not be able to do that as I am color blind. I will say that my lovely lady of the house is always called uopn for color on all my pieces. She tells me what looks good with what, etc. And one other thing, I didn't know you had a masters degree in chemistry to know all of that mixing and product selection. Well done, Cory!
Well isn't it nice to have a color seeing lady around? That's called freakin teamwork! Thanks for watching and P.S. no chemistry education here. Just follow directions
@@FortressFineWoodworks yes - she has saved my butt a couple of times with the color. We work well as a team in the shop.
Amazing!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
This is a fantastic video. Thank you for spending the time to create and share it. I do have a question about the step-panel though. Where did it come from/how was it made? I think I get that you performed all the steps shown in the video on that one piece first (I may be wildly incorrect here), but if so, how would you know what the result would look like on the actual piece as I'm (assuming again) that the test-panel wood did not come directly from the table. Forgive me if this is a silly question.
That's a good question. Yes, all the steps are performed on the panel first, but progressively leaving the last step how it was so the panel shows the progression.
I had walnut laying around that I matched the color and grain to the table walnut. So it was pretty much the same
nice work.
I appreciate it!
beautiful table, i learned so much about color correction here! does the urethane not yellow overtime though? and if a scratch or groove occurs how would the repairs be done?
This particular urethane doesn't yellow, although other oil or solvent based coatings do. If you want to learn more in depth info, my patrons have access to a messaging platform where they can ask me questions. You can join here www.patreon.com/FortressFineWoodworks
Beautiful 🎉❤
I appreciate you!
Thanks for the great video! How many hours did you spend on the finishing process and how much did the finishes cost? I like to make custom tables but I'm not sure I can charge enough to cover the time and cost to cover this type of finish versus using a hardwax oil finish.
About 8 hours of finishing time with experience, and $200 in finish. Whatever works for you is what works. Thanks for watching
Perfection
Thanks Stevo!
Great video, helped me realize how terrible my dining room table actually looks haha!
Yeah, sometimes we don't realize the details until we are taught to look closer. For better or for worse. Thanks for watching!
first of all awsome work not only the project but the video too keep it up and you will reach 100k subs in no time but i have a question doestnt the sap wood darken over time so could it be too dark in a coupls of years due to the colour correction or is that process stopped through the finish?
Thank you for having high hopes! Thats a great question! Usually this coloring process (and finish itself) slows down the lightening of the heartwood, and darkening of the sapwood because it blocks some of the UV which is causing that change. I left the sapwood a little lighter still, so if this change does inevitably happen 50 years from now, then it will still look fine.
@@FortressFineWoodworks ok good to know thanks for the quick response
You're welcome. Thanks for watching
As a new wood worker, this is a great video. Maybe you can make a video on how to make table or furniture leggings for like a book shelf or even furniture crown.
Thank you. I make legs for a cabinet in this video ua-cam.com/video/_PAZCkw8hlY/v-deo.html
and next video will have turned legs.
I honestly never thought about the need for UV protection before. Imron is airplane paint, so it's going to hold up for a very long time in this application.
Is it really? If that's true then you just taught me something. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, and very enlightening on the downsides of hardware oils. Does anyone know where to source Imron polyurethane finish in Canada? Specifically Vancouver island, BC?
Thanks for watching. I heard that imron may be discontinuing. If you have a local sherwin williams - product finishes , they may have a solvent Polyurethane.
@@FortressFineWoodworks bummer :( do you have a specific brand you'd recommend that would offer the same UV and surface durability as Imron?
Sherwin williams has uv absorbers, I just haven't used it in a while.
Soooo, before watching your video I WAS feeling pretty good about my decision to use Osmo 1101 as a base coat/colorant and then Osmo 3054 as a top protective coat using a white scotch pad on my walnut dining table project. If I use Osmo, Am I just setting myself up for a failed-looking finish after a few years of use that will require continual refinishing?
I would say OSMO will likely work just fine, but it will require much more maintenance than a urethane. The catch is, a urethane takes practice to apply. But you have to learn at some point
I’ve made some wall mounted coat hooks from birch and a bass guitar neck from maple with Osmo 3054 finish Looks and feels great. My hope is that my walnut table will be ok to do homework on without having the pen and pencil indentation marks left the surface. We hardly ever sit to eat dinner at the dinner table so I hope that helps too, lol.
great vid on tinting, not enough out there.
I still use lacquer in my booth, its just what i grew up on, thinking of switching over to poly but the added steps and expense for quality poly make me hesitate. A 5gal of imron from my supplier is crazy expensive, right now im i just use variset and chemlife which is mediocre. contractor grade tinted woodfilller verses waterbased gel products is an interesting one i have to try, sounds alot cheaper haha
What waterbased gel filler do you use? Thanks!
@@FortressFineWoodworks aqua coat, its a clear urethane (i think, it is water solu.) gel that dries clear. works great with transtint but its $20 a pint. i think you can get quarts a gallons online somewhere
Great to know. Does it shrink after a month or so?
@@FortressFineWoodworks Ive gone through a few gallons myself and ive never experienced that issue but i have read about it and i think it come from improper application and/or improper layering.
4 to 7 layers, 320 grit sand in between, 24 hour cure, lacquer sealer the next day and first topcoat layer later that same day, final coat next day.
Thanks for letting me know your process. I will have to try it some time
What is sure that this level of finish is definitely non idiot-proof one, Hope that one day I'll gather enough courage to try copying your methods. Keep up the good work sir.
Will do! Thank you. These techniques aren't "hard", but they DO take more practice than others. Practicing on smaller flat surfaces is best. They are easy to sand back if you screw up!
One error. The epoxy is bond limited to the bond strength of the finish.
I agree, which in most cases is close to the strength of pva glue.
The best is when someone builds a 15k epoxy table only to put the least amount of protection on it by using a HWO. Like good luck customer!
Yes... you know exactly what I mean then. Those tables are going to need some serious refinishing through their lives.
Green kills red and got away with murder 😊
Thanks for watching!
part of owning nice furniture, etc., is maintaining it which is also included in your spring cleaning is typically applying wax or furniture polish. such pieces are never self maintaining and the problem is people are lazy and want easy buttons on everything. why would you invest good money on anything nice and not spend one minute of effort once in a blue moon to maintain it. you don't use harsh chemicals on wood, etc. and not do anything to protect the finish. seems people need a " for dummies" class on how to properly maintain their wood furniture, etc. every cleaner on the store is not meant to use on everything in your house, always use stuff made specifically for wood.
BTW, i noticed when you wet your table to raise the grain you pretty much soaked it resulting in the grain problem "pitting" you mentioned, i'm pretty sure if you use a less water and wipe with a damp cloth instead you would avoid much of the pitting, still raise the grain, enough, and get a nice smooth surface. also, an orbital sander is nice but it ignores one rule, sand with the grain which such a sander does not.
Very true! Really. Maintaining wood is apart of owning nice furniture. Although, 99.9% of my clients wouldn't dare put any product on their furniture in fear of ruining it. That's why they hired me, a woodworker. So providing a finish that is damn near bullet proof is something that I'll never regret!
If I lightly wet the table, I'm not actually performing the task that I need to perform. Which is raising all of the grain that is susceptible to water damage. If only some of the grain is raised, then later down the road if the wood gets wet, the rest of the grain will raise and destroy the bond. This festool ets sander is magic. Even with my good eye, I could never tell the difference between straight grain sanding, and this random orbital sanding. Thanks for your experience and insite!
I think the big problem is that the purchaser rarely knows the finish used, and different finishes require different maintenance/care. Poly, for example, will actually look worse over time if you use furniture polish/wax. And repairing water rings, scratches, sun fading, etc are often impossible if one doesn't know the finish they are dealing with. In many cases, even professional refinishers have a hard time identifying the type of finish used, and opt for a complete refinish rather than just a repair (as we see in this video).
Your videos are fantastic and I’m shocked you don’t have more views. I don’t think that will be the case for long though.
My one complaint however, please for the love of god, scoot back from the camera a little bit. Like 2’! When you’re talking to the camera it feels like you’re just a little too close. With peace and love.
Also, subscribed :)
I don't know what youtube is doing, but thankfully my newest video is doing pretty well if you want to check it out. Thanks for the input. I talk close to the camera for good mic sound. But I didn't talk into the camera at all in my newest video, so problem solved! Thanks for the sub!
@@FortressFineWoodworks your newest vid is how o found you.
Very polarizing comments about old school finishes. Personally, I prefer the simplicity and the experience of refinishing. I wouldn't use the newer finishes if they were given to me.
Also, I prefer the patina of used furniture. Things are lifeless to me when they always look new.
You have a preference, and others have a preference. You're no more correct than they are.
Great point! We all have our preferences. Thanks for watching!