Heyo everyone! I'll probably be making a few more videos after I come back next week from travel, not tutorials, but more so fun explanation videos. There'll also be some other videos of other games on my channel soon as well, including things for the next MoistCritikal Challenge, and maybe more Halo speedrun things. I'll try to start making more content, but I'll be pretty busy for the next few months with travelling and speedruns for SGDQ 2024 and ESA Summer 2024!
I can confirm that everything in this guide still works in Patch 7 with some quirks I couldn't account for: 1) The weapon drop for the moonlantern seems to be an all or nothing shot now. Miss and Shadowheart dies. Succeed and you can safely pick up the lantern (and die) 2) The Nightsong cutscene seems buggy. It got cut short on multiple runs. In my winning run, it got cut short once and then played out with the 6 skips after talking to the Nightsong again 3) I don't think it matters but after Myrkul, shadowheart was still stealthed near Balthazar and had to exit before moving to Act 3 Everything else played out perfectly.
@@jeff-15g His tip about using the scroll down as a click action is spot on. It felt like this to me: 1) Place a chest down so you have something to catch on when you fall through the map 2) Aim at an obstructed spot and scroll down while spamming jump, but make sure your path crosses the top of your barrel/chest 3) You jump through the air, splat into an invisible wall, slide down onto the chest 4) Click forward into the room you're trying to get into so you walk off the chest and safely in.
@@probag8414 I’m confident my spam click is off, but my brain refuses to understand.lol Youre scrolling down on the mouse (zooming out) while also pressing Z and left mouse? That seems impossible to pull off so I must be confused I did the interact button binding where the first box is left mouse click and second box is shift+scroll up. Then I hold down shift and Z while spamming the left mouse button to try and get it to jump.
Pardon scroll up I mean >.< It depends on what you set it to, but scroll up (zoom in) is easier because you don't need to zoom in very often in a speedrun. So the way it looks when I'm spamming is I hit Z a bunch of times with my left hand (to jump spam) while hovered over the spot I want to jump to and just...scroll up with my finger. Lefty pink hitting Z, right index finger scrolling up, that's the only inputs I need.
Just got my Honor mode run done - thank you very much, fantastic guide! I got Orin as Lae'zel as I decided to leave her in my party, she had only 1 HP though :D Small tip for console players - if jump at 38:00 doesn't work for you just jump around the normal path and sneak through the brains area until you get to the bridge in the video, it doesn't take much longer to get there.
Sitll working, luckily. Thank you for this tutorial. As for my tips: there is only one. When doing temple skip with doors, make sure chest is as parallel to doors as possible. If it is at angle, pick it up and put it down again. Try few times, it should eventualy rotate. Don't try doing this skip on hardkore if your chest is at angle. You will either miss the skip or softlock yourself quite badly. Also this skip should work with chest that you can pick in corridor at 29:33 (if you jump a bit farer).
Oh I had a hard time with this run, always when you die or whatever just close the game and then u can reload. In Act 3 I saved before killing gortash and then before encountering Orin. Also before entering the imperator scene. Also before entering the final fight
Thank you so much for these walk-throughs. I recently lost an honour mode run unknowingly playing normally (approx 80 hours in) near the end of act 3, so I was gutted. I didn't want to give up but also not go through all those hours again, so this guide was great. I managed to finish it in 1 day, so a massive thanks to you and good look to anyone else attempting this as well.
The thing I love about cheesy very hard runs is the ability to stretch the game's breakability and laugh over it (Especially the Gortash part :v). Thanks mate!
Your guide has been a tremendous help and I have now gotten the honour mode achievement, many thanks for the clear explanation and also showcasing multiple options!
thank you so much for the guides! very easy to follow and learned some new things along the way. Excited for my legit attempt now. Doubt i'll ever be as fast as yourself but if I can get under 2 and half hours i'll be happy
Just turned 160hrs to do Honour Mode into 4. Thanks mate, you are a legend. Added some extra perks like an extra Invisibility potion from the “rank” drow at Moonrise for Spear of the Night if you can’t mash jump quick enough before spells clock out. Am tempted to get one from Roah at the Goblin Camp to assist with undead at Mountain Pass too. Another one I seem to stuff up, its either that or try and coax them away with Lazy L so if Tav makes it down to the entry to Shadowlands she can escape battle and move on. Lazy L will come back to life as soon as Tav does, with full hit points if she dies.
a tip for controller that saves time is to take a second and make a new blank radial and put the spells you're going to use a lot there then you just press r1/rb and they're all there easy access
If anyone is struggling with the jump with jaheira in the morphic pool on controller, consider buying a flying potion in beehive general goods after getting the fireworks. It's a considerable time lost but you gain a considerable amount of time back by flying on the left rock instead and not spending 5 minutes trying to reach the right rock. You might also be able to spare a spell slot and getting fly on your Tav or Jaheira at some point in your levelling paths, just an idea here.
I was close to achieving honor mode 2-3 days ago.. I was at the point of killing Gortash and going for the brain having all the allies with me (did all the quests along with the save all the tieflings achievement) and all the rest bosses down.I reminded my self though that I haven't killed Ansur... that was my doom.. Anyway I played again, and currently I am at act 3 again, but nevertheless I did your guide and got my golden dice!! Thanks a lot Chronos!!
great guide! I was able to finish honor mode following your instructions without too much trouble, although I did not get the special dice, as my save glitched to tactical somewhere along the way. The "load" save still says honor, but the "continue" from the main menu says tactical. looks like round 2 following this guide is coming up :)
Congrats on the run at GDQ! I'm about to start my run following your guide. One question I have pertains to achievements/trophies. Does accepting Bhaal's offer and becoming his chosen break the run? Or if I were to choose to kill Isobel? For two trophies I need to become Bhaal's Slayer, and then getting the ending where I take control of the netherbrain. Thanks for any insights.
So this guide will go through the honour mode run with glitches, so I believe there are some small differences, since I believe this guide has you play as a Tav and not a Dark Urge, meaning that some of the run is different. Accepting Bhaal's offer I'm not sure about but it'll most likely break it. For killing Isobel, you'll be without Jaheira which will make things a ton more difficult. You can get the Sins of the Father achievement by doing the Honour Mode Glitchless run that I showcased by selecting option 2 at the end I'm pretty sure, but I don't think you'll get the Embrace Your Urge one to become the slayer. If you don't do it in honour mode or if you want to save scum you can just become the slayer and reload the save after following the glitchless route.
@ChronosReturns you're right, it is a tav for this guide. I confused this either your gdq run. I'd lean glitchless either way. You mentioned potentially working out the glitchless run in a similar manner. Is that still a possibility? That should make the route as patch proof as possible. Either way, I'll look to follow your 48 minute guide and try to work out those achievements like you described. Thanks again.
For the jump at 38:00, how do you do that part on controler? Edit: Never mind, you just have to path the camera around and angle it just right to do the jupm skip👍🏻
So I was working off of your older guides for patch 6. I’m in the middle of act 3 and just realized some things are different. But I never grabbed an invisibility potion for the end fight, and recommendations to find one in act 3 before I get to the point of no return? Also your guides are amazing!!
I’m confused on the mechanics to get through the wall at Orin. I’m holding shift the entire time and pressing the left mouse key and Z at the same time? I’ve tried all variations I can think of and can’t get it to work
Hey, console guy here, the magehand trick to stay invisible doesn’t keep my tav invisible at the top of the brain. Are there any work arounds or is it just inconsistent? Update: I figured out a work around, thank you for your fantastic tutorial :)
How do you make it work? Or is it fixed now? I have tried many times but does not work. My Left to right click timing is as fast as possible. Jehira just drops the NPC immediately.
@@Cla55icG00se the way I made it work, was choose the throw option, then (I’m on playstation, if you’re on Xbox change the buttons to the correct ones) hit triangle (Y) to throw from world. Choose the npc you want to throw, then in quick succession, instead of just pressing X to throw, you need to hit X then circle almost immediately. Sometimes it will just throw the npc, sometimes it just drops them, but after a couple tries, you should have them in the kidnapping stage. To drop them, choose the throw option again, then just cancel the action
@@1031985 Yes, that's 100% the reason, in BG3, you can't kill child characters like Yenna, so you need to knock her out effectively killing Orin. If it's Lae'zel, she's an adult character which means you can kill her
@@1031985 You probably still can, but because you don't have infinite status, it is a lot less lenient, but you probably still can turn on turn based mode to do it, which is faster
On your glitchless run, you just threw orin off the cliff. I tried to do it too but orin just teleports back to her altar. do you have an alternative glitchless way to kill her ? it seems like larian fixed the fact we could throw her off
Is the kidnapping option fixed or something? I have tried like 50 times but does not work. My timing between left and right click is very fast, but does not work.
Heyo everyone!
I'll probably be making a few more videos after I come back next week from travel, not tutorials, but more so fun explanation videos.
There'll also be some other videos of other games on my channel soon as well, including things for the next MoistCritikal Challenge, and maybe more Halo speedrun things.
I'll try to start making more content, but I'll be pretty busy for the next few months with travelling and speedruns for SGDQ 2024 and ESA Summer 2024!
1/7/2024 still working
Thank u from the bottom of my heart ♥️♥️♥️😭
Yes!
I can confirm that everything in this guide still works in Patch 7 with some quirks I couldn't account for:
1) The weapon drop for the moonlantern seems to be an all or nothing shot now. Miss and Shadowheart dies. Succeed and you can safely pick up the lantern (and die)
2) The Nightsong cutscene seems buggy. It got cut short on multiple runs. In my winning run, it got cut short once and then played out with the 6 skips after talking to the Nightsong again
3) I don't think it matters but after Myrkul, shadowheart was still stealthed near Balthazar and had to exit before moving to Act 3
Everything else played out perfectly.
I’m having trouble with the chest jump into Orin, but don’t really understand the mesh jump mechanics
@@jeff-15g His tip about using the scroll down as a click action is spot on. It felt like this to me:
1) Place a chest down so you have something to catch on when you fall through the map
2) Aim at an obstructed spot and scroll down while spamming jump, but make sure your path crosses the top of your barrel/chest
3) You jump through the air, splat into an invisible wall, slide down onto the chest
4) Click forward into the room you're trying to get into so you walk off the chest and safely in.
@@probag8414 I’m confident my spam click is off, but my brain refuses to understand.lol Youre scrolling down on the mouse (zooming out) while also pressing Z and left mouse? That seems impossible to pull off so I must be confused
I did the interact button binding where the first box is left mouse click and second box is shift+scroll up. Then I hold down shift and Z while spamming the left mouse button to try and get it to jump.
Pardon scroll up I mean >.< It depends on what you set it to, but scroll up (zoom in) is easier because you don't need to zoom in very often in a speedrun.
So the way it looks when I'm spamming is I hit Z a bunch of times with my left hand (to jump spam) while hovered over the spot I want to jump to and just...scroll up with my finger. Lefty pink hitting Z, right index finger scrolling up, that's the only inputs I need.
Just got my Honor mode run done - thank you very much, fantastic guide! I got Orin as Lae'zel as I decided to leave her in my party, she had only 1 HP though :D
Small tip for console players - if jump at 38:00 doesn't work for you just jump around the normal path and sneak through the brains area until you get to the bridge in the video, it doesn't take much longer to get there.
Lifesaver🙌🏽 I was there for 20mins freaking out😭
Ive been looking forward to this a little too much. I appreciate how you break everything down. Thanks for your work!
I’ve done it on console 100% still works some parts are hair pulling but I got it done in 4hrs THANK YOU 🙌🏽
Sitll working, luckily. Thank you for this tutorial.
As for my tips: there is only one. When doing temple skip with doors, make sure chest is as parallel to doors as possible. If it is at angle, pick it up and put it down again. Try few times, it should eventualy rotate. Don't try doing this skip on hardkore if your chest is at angle. You will either miss the skip or softlock yourself quite badly. Also this skip should work with chest that you can pick in corridor at 29:33 (if you jump a bit farer).
30/8/2024 still working
Really thank you brother ♥♥
@Thielemeister for act 3 where did you feel safest to save, i'm afraid to save again encase something happens and then i'll have to do it all again
Oh I had a hard time with this run, always when you die or whatever just close the game and then u can reload. In Act 3 I saved before killing gortash and then before encountering Orin. Also before entering the imperator scene. Also before entering the final fight
@@TheLemonaidenlike on PlayStation, just close the game or alt f4
Thank you so much for these walk-throughs. I recently lost an honour mode run unknowingly playing normally (approx 80 hours in) near the end of act 3, so I was gutted. I didn't want to give up but also not go through all those hours again, so this guide was great. I managed to finish it in 1 day, so a massive thanks to you and good look to anyone else attempting this as well.
The thing I love about cheesy very hard runs is the ability to stretch the game's breakability and laugh over it (Especially the Gortash part :v). Thanks mate!
Your guide has been a tremendous help and I have now gotten the honour mode achievement, many thanks for the clear explanation and also showcasing multiple options!
Much appreciated! Just cleared through honour mode last night on my first file
thank you so much for the guides! very easy to follow and learned some new things along the way. Excited for my legit attempt now. Doubt i'll ever be as fast as yourself but if I can get under 2 and half hours i'll be happy
Amazing tutorial series mate, just got my run done and really enjoyed the speedrun!
Just turned 160hrs to do Honour Mode into 4. Thanks mate, you are a legend. Added some extra perks like an extra Invisibility potion from the “rank” drow at Moonrise for Spear of the Night if you can’t mash jump quick enough before spells clock out. Am tempted to get one from Roah at the Goblin Camp to assist with undead at Mountain Pass too. Another one I seem to stuff up, its either that or try and coax them away with Lazy L so if Tav makes it down to the entry to Shadowlands she can escape battle and move on. Lazy L will come back to life as soon as Tav does, with full hit points if she dies.
Thank you for those guides, thank to it i managed to do the honor mode. Keep doing the good work
a tip for controller that saves time is to take a second and make a new blank radial and put the spells you're going to use a lot there then you just press r1/rb and they're all there easy access
Excellent job! I was following along but ended up getting my dice with my non-speedrun save lol. Was still a fun journey with you though!
Bro thank you so much, after losing an honor run at the brain that’s what i needed
It's finally out! I'm trying this out tomorrow! Thank you so much for this!!
And I'm through! That was a ride! Thanks for all the work that went into this Chronos! It was fantastic!
If anyone is struggling with the jump with jaheira in the morphic pool on controller, consider buying a flying potion in beehive general goods after getting the fireworks. It's a considerable time lost but you gain a considerable amount of time back by flying on the left rock instead and not spending 5 minutes trying to reach the right rock. You might also be able to spare a spell slot and getting fly on your Tav or Jaheira at some point in your levelling paths, just an idea here.
Really enjoy all your speedrun tutorial videos, especially the console versions~
I was close to achieving honor mode 2-3 days ago.. I was at the point of killing Gortash and going for the brain having all the allies with me (did all the quests along with the save all the tieflings achievement) and all the rest bosses down.I reminded my self though that I haven't killed Ansur... that was my doom.. Anyway I played again, and currently I am at act 3 again, but nevertheless I did your guide and got my golden dice!! Thanks a lot Chronos!!
Worked August 04, 2024, Thank you!
Amazing content, just got my golden dice, thanks so much!
Followed this today, it was great. Thank you!
great guide! I was able to finish honor mode following your instructions without too much trouble, although I did not get the special dice, as my save glitched to tactical somewhere along the way. The "load" save still says honor, but the "continue" from the main menu says tactical. looks like round 2 following this guide is coming up :)
I did it on console! Thank you so much ❤❤❤
Thank you so much!! Did it just now!!!!
thanks :) everything worked
Goated fr fr
Perfecg timing. They just said my ps5 physical copy should be mailing soon.
Congrats on the run at GDQ! I'm about to start my run following your guide. One question I have pertains to achievements/trophies. Does accepting Bhaal's offer and becoming his chosen break the run? Or if I were to choose to kill Isobel? For two trophies I need to become Bhaal's Slayer, and then getting the ending where I take control of the netherbrain. Thanks for any insights.
So this guide will go through the honour mode run with glitches, so I believe there are some small differences, since I believe this guide has you play as a Tav and not a Dark Urge, meaning that some of the run is different. Accepting Bhaal's offer I'm not sure about but it'll most likely break it. For killing Isobel, you'll be without Jaheira which will make things a ton more difficult. You can get the Sins of the Father achievement by doing the Honour Mode Glitchless run that I showcased by selecting option 2 at the end I'm pretty sure, but I don't think you'll get the Embrace Your Urge one to become the slayer. If you don't do it in honour mode or if you want to save scum you can just become the slayer and reload the save after following the glitchless route.
@ChronosReturns you're right, it is a tav for this guide. I confused this either your gdq run. I'd lean glitchless either way. You mentioned potentially working out the glitchless run in a similar manner. Is that still a possibility? That should make the route as patch proof as possible. Either way, I'll look to follow your 48 minute guide and try to work out those achievements like you described. Thanks again.
What do I gotta do for a console honormode speedrun glitchless run video from you? These are amazing!
Thank u so much....❤ i get the achievement!!!
For the jump at 38:00, how do you do that part on controler?
Edit: Never mind, you just have to path the camera around and angle it just right to do the jupm skip👍🏻
You should've given a heads-up about the invis potion waaay earlier, since either tav can't take it when shart's dead, or after he mindflayers up.
Ps5
So I was working off of your older guides for patch 6. I’m in the middle of act 3 and just realized some things are different. But I never grabbed an invisibility potion for the end fight, and recommendations to find one in act 3 before I get to the point of no return?
Also your guides are amazing!!
thanks for game over
I’m confused on the mechanics to get through the wall at Orin. I’m holding shift the entire time and pressing the left mouse key and Z at the same time? I’ve tried all variations I can think of and can’t get it to work
Hey, console guy here, the magehand trick to stay invisible doesn’t keep my tav invisible at the top of the brain. Are there any work arounds or is it just inconsistent? Update: I figured out a work around, thank you for your fantastic tutorial :)
Can you post the work around? About to start this once my physical copy arrives.
@k1llerceeper548 What did you figure out?
Just so you know, standard kidnapping does work on keyboard!
How do you make it work? Or is it fixed now? I have tried many times but does not work. My Left to right click timing is as fast as possible. Jehira just drops the NPC immediately.
@@Cla55icG00se the way I made it work, was choose the throw option, then (I’m on playstation, if you’re on Xbox change the buttons to the correct ones) hit triangle (Y) to throw from world.
Choose the npc you want to throw, then in quick succession, instead of just pressing X to throw, you need to hit X then circle almost immediately.
Sometimes it will just throw the npc, sometimes it just drops them, but after a couple tries, you should have them in the kidnapping stage.
To drop them, choose the throw option again, then just cancel the action
I wonder what is the importance of non lethal damage on Orin? I was able to just kill her with regular blow, and it worked the same.
That's really interesting, I believe that at least for previous patches the game didn't let you kill Orin as Yenna without it
She appeared as Laezel for me with 1hp, maybe that’s the difference?
@@1031985 Yes, that's 100% the reason, in BG3, you can't kill child characters like Yenna, so you need to knock her out effectively killing Orin. If it's Lae'zel, she's an adult character which means you can kill her
@@ChronosReturns
Another question is why can’t you do the frog at the end? That still worked for me, too.
@@1031985 You probably still can, but because you don't have infinite status, it is a lot less lenient, but you probably still can turn on turn based mode to do it, which is faster
On your glitchless run, you just threw orin off the cliff. I tried to do it too but orin just teleports back to her altar. do you have an alternative glitchless way to kill her ? it seems like larian fixed the fact we could throw her off
Orin appears with full health for me? Not disguised either
Is the kidnapping option fixed or something? I have tried like 50 times but does not work. My timing between left and right click is very fast, but does not work.
It still works on current patch. It is pretty precise, and you need to be close enough for it to work properly.
Make sure mage hand has disappeared or else you will starting over or switching off your pc and re-booting. 🤣🤣🤣🤣