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I know the other comments disagree but I think doll voice makes more sense than baby talk. Doll voice connotes something specific to this Taiwanese phenomenon. Calling this baby talk would give people the wrong impression because there are different connotations. Baby talk isn't just "cute", it infantilizes the other person. It wouldn't be used by shopkeepers like dolly voice is.
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@@MandarinWithMissLin so it is not a unique cultural phenomena? In japan I have heard referred to as "service voice". I think perhaps this is a better translation than baby or doll.
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Hello laoshi I have a question teacher 🙂 The sentence is " The speaker is American and Wang's mother is Mandarin". Laoshi, is the sentence correct? She used Mandarin instead of Chinese? Anothee is, " We have a Mandarin dinner tomorrow". Is it correct? the used of Mandarin in a. sentence? Ganxie nin laoshi ♥️❤️❤️
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basically from the way I see it, it’s hard to find an equivalence in English. It’s an unique cultural phenomenon in Taiwan. However, we use “娃娃音” not just to talk to baby or to talk to men because we consider we have a lower status. Actually on the contrary, I saw a TV show the other day talking about the fact that nowadays- many men find out that women use 娃娃音 to “get what they want” or “ to avoid annoying tasks or physical work at workplace”. So on the contrary, some Taiwanese men feel unfair. Anyways, I am glad to see students discuss this.😊
@@MandarinWithMissLin By baby talk, it is imitating the voice of baby, not to talk to a baby. I think your argument proves the point about status. It is those with a lower status using language to get what they want. If it is a male salesperson, do they use the voice? If it is a husband asking wife for help, does he use this voice? I understand the language can be used between women, but in this case it is a salesperson (lower status than customer) trying to sell something. I am not commenting if it is wrong, simply making the sociological categorization regarding the linguistic usage of wa wa yin. If Taiwan men are just figuring this out now, I question their observation skills.
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So according to your sister , she wouldn't use wawayin for a guy she thinks is cute? 😅 Haha guess when men go to Taiwan they can take that as sign the sales girl must think they are attractive then if they do it for other customers haha.
@@yukimikako of course it is not an American phenomenon. I am quite familiar with it from my time in Taiwan. Every time I walk into a shop, the sales lady speaks exactly like Miss Lin's sister. If I poll 100 people (not from Taiwan) and ask them to describe it, I am fairly confident 90%+ would say it is baby talk, maybe 10% would say doll talk, but we don't say baby voice or doll voice.
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I know the other comments disagree but I think doll voice makes more sense than baby talk. Doll voice connotes something specific to this Taiwanese phenomenon. Calling this baby talk would give people the wrong impression because there are different connotations. Baby talk isn't just "cute", it infantilizes the other person. It wouldn't be used by shopkeepers like dolly voice is.
Agree
You are right the idea of 'baby voice' is something different.
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I was the person that requested it a few months back. 😉
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This is wonderful. Thank you!
I know Chinese is tough for newbies. Thing is, this is a good example for you to learn from -- they are speaking slowly and clearly, but not so slowly as to be boring. Plus it has a great set of English subtitles. If it's still too fast youtube let's you adjust speed of playback.
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wow I've always known Taiwanese accent sounds very cute but never knew there was a term for it! Thank you!
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謝謝。我最近來了台北。謝謝做這些很有用的視頻
倆姐妹合體說教材是很棒教學！👏
謝謝媽媽👩🏻～
这是一个极其有用的视频。谢谢你林老师为我们分享。😁😁
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First time in Taiwan I couldn't understand a single word of wawayu. There is a similar phenomenon in Japan (or at least Akihabara haha)
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I think it's development from kawaii culture and yes use for many reason like you say. Also love the outtakes at the end haha
對 我也覺得😁
@@MandarinWithMissLin so it is not a unique cultural phenomena? In japan I have heard referred to as "service voice". I think perhaps this is a better translation than baby or doll.
service voice?! Right! this can explain for the salesperson case:)
I find this OK. What annoys me is vocal fry.
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你們姊妹真可愛.
Wawa shengyin 😄 I thought it was the natural way some people speak.
Funny video but very useful.
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Hello laoshi
I have a question teacher 🙂
The sentence is
" The speaker is American and Wang's mother is Mandarin".
Laoshi, is the sentence correct? She used Mandarin instead of Chinese?
Anothee is, " We have a Mandarin dinner tomorrow".
Is it correct? the used of Mandarin in a. sentence?
Ganxie nin laoshi ♥️❤️❤️
Your sister is gorgeous
對啊
超可愛！！！！！
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I am interested about this kind of conversation how can i contact you?
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真的！
珍zhen1 precious, treasure
秀xiu4 elegant graceful refined
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你是非常美麗的。
Miss Lin, do you feels it keeps Taiwan womens' roles as having a lower status to men?
I agree with you, the women of taiwan should adopt a deep voice instead and then they will become a higher status than men!
basically from the way I see it, it’s hard to find an equivalence in English. It’s an unique cultural phenomenon in Taiwan. However, we use “娃娃音” not just to talk to baby or to talk to men because we consider we have a lower status. Actually on the contrary, I saw a TV show the other day talking about the fact that nowadays- many men find out that women use 娃娃音 to “get what they want” or “ to avoid annoying tasks or physical work at workplace”. So on the contrary, some Taiwanese men feel unfair. Anyways, I am glad to see students discuss this.😊
@@MandarinWithMissLin I thought of it more like talking *like* a baby rather than talking *to* a baby.
@@MandarinWithMissLin By baby talk, it is imitating the voice of baby, not to talk to a baby. I think your argument proves the point about status. It is those with a lower status using language to get what they want. If it is a male salesperson, do they use the voice? If it is a husband asking wife for help, does he use this voice?
I understand the language can be used between women, but in this case it is a salesperson (lower status than customer) trying to sell something. I am not commenting if it is wrong, simply making the sociological categorization regarding the linguistic usage of wa wa yin. If Taiwan men are just figuring this out now, I question their observation skills.
@@johnmorgan233 I'm taiwanese men and I hate this fake voice. When I went to Japan they have the same problem.
您好林老師😁
老师你看起来可爱
我 想在台湾 学习中文。在台湾花多少钱，在台湾有打工吗
你帮我的老师?
我有 3000 美元，我没有足够的钱，我的生活中遇到很多问题，请老师帮助我如何提高中文，我的口语不好
Can men also use doll voice?
當然可以啊 看自己
男人不能用娃娃音吧，哈哈
超有趣!
對啊對啊😁
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你好 from India
So according to your sister , she wouldn't use wawayin for a guy she thinks is cute? 😅 Haha guess when men go to Taiwan they can take that as sign the sales girl must think they are attractive then if they do it for other customers haha.
I think 'baby talk' is a much better suitable translation.
girly voice.
Oh yes, maybe 'girly voice' is how you would say it in English, but I find the term 'doll voice' amusing, so I like that way of saying it too.
这在女权视角下怕是争议很大，幼稚化女性
we say baby talk. Never heard of doll voice.
It's not baby talk. It's not an American phenomenon that's why you never hear of it
@@yukimikako of course it is not an American phenomenon. I am quite familiar with it from my time in Taiwan. Every time I walk into a shop, the sales lady speaks exactly like Miss Lin's sister. If I poll 100 people (not from Taiwan) and ask them to describe it, I am fairly confident 90%+ would say it is baby talk, maybe 10% would say doll talk, but we don't say baby voice or doll voice.
@@johnmorgan233 so what if you poll people not from Taiwan? That's a dumb premise
@@yukimikako To decide on a translation, it is reasonable and appropriate to consult native speakers from the language in which it will be used. I accept that Taiwanese know what to call it in Taiwan.
第一
還是在中文看，從"first"沒有逃逸大
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