I thought I was training hard until I joined Jay's coaching and he really showed me how to train hard. Thanks man! Also great job fixing the audio issues from previously
“Anyone who trains six days a week for hours each day, and then says he is training hard, doesn’t know what hard training is. He may be training diligently for long periods, but he isn’t training hard.” -Mike Mentzer
⚠️ ⚠️ ⚠️ HARDGAINERS ⚠️ ⚠️ ⚠️ I tried GOMAD and extreme excess calories before, like 5 to 6000 calories a day (i'm tall) and got fat, letargic and sick of eating all day (it was like another job). You DO NOT need a hell lot of extra calories and not extra protein (it can even hinder gains due to digestion in hardgainers). If you are a hardgainer that will stick with HIT (1-2 workouts per week) and do not do a lot of extra exercise, please make yourself a favor and eat 4 times a day with 300-500 calories above maintenance, with protein between 100-140g day, and do it day after day for a year, then come here and tell me! I did it for a entire year and went from 170 to 211 pounds. I have a lot of BJJ training and, what I do in addition to what I said above is add back the calories burned in BJJ training, in the form of a 500-calorie shake on the days I train BJJ. Simple and effective. DO NOT FALL FOR THE "EAT EAT EAT" thing or you will pay the price with your physique, your mind, your health and your money!
Sqaut Bench press Deadlift alternate with Chinups. Do this and when you can Sqaut 150% of bodyweight for 8 reps, bench press 100% bodyweight for 8 reps and deadlift 175% for 8 reps. When you can hit these numbers your getting close. Some of these targets will have to be adjusted for your body type
I am a hardgainer and for me to put on mass a little mass, I had to completely stop cardio for 2 years, which I loved doing, and solely do body weight exercises mixed with HIT, and cutback my workouts from 4-5x a week to 2x a week. I couldn’t just increase my calories because what happened is I became skinny fat then, so I went back to low carb high protein and healthy fat diet. I put on mass but I’m not talking much mass. Like 5lbs in a year is how long it took me.
i did the same thing as you, but then i got a good advice. The advice was: don't worry about abs or being lean when your skinny, just bulk, not for 6 months not for a year. But for around 3 years and just keep eating more and more calories, when you begin to stagnate, i was stuck at 60kg for the longest time, and has helped me to get to 75kg in just a year so far. i got up to 4000 calroies a day without ending being fat, so can you friend
Some people just have such fast metabolisms or subpar genes. They will always be thin, unless their metabolism changes with age. Guys like this should just go for being a ripped 170 or 175...They are not meant to be that big.
I wouldn't worry about measuring calories it's not very accurate. Measure the volume of what you eat do you eat 200 g of protein? Grams are a much better way to know how much you're eating.
For anyone watching this video- how would you explain to someone newer to this- "push your body hard"? A lot of people think they are training with high intensity, but I'm not sure if everyone understands what this truly means. Most people haven't been truly pushed and tested, so mental/emotional thresholds may vary...
If you're training with a slow tempo (like 5sec up/5sec down) it's easy to explain and demonstrate. The point most people would stop is when their muscles start burning, or they "perceive" they've reached failure. But if you keep pushing and have willpower/mental fortitude to endure half a minute of intense discomfort, you can do 2-3 reps more and reach true muscle failure. That's where *even if you keep pushing, you just can't move the weight* concentrically anymore. Now if I were training with sloppy form, lots of swinging and momentum, I don't know how I could explain this... but If you're doing all your reps with proper tempo and form, you just keep doing that until you physically can't anymore. Just ignore your instincts to give up early, or jerk the weight/contort your body to make the reps easier.
he calls it going to momentary muscle failure. Don't use your max weight, use more like 75-80% of it, but do your reps fairly slowly, don't use any momentum or 'body jerking', make the muscle truly do all of the pos and neg work. Use a weight where you can do around 6-8 reps, until you tremble and fail. If you crap your pants, you pushed hard enough, but you really want to stop just short of that. One set is fine (although I tend to do maybe two or three tops, but I often do like 4-6 high quality reps per set). The extra set may not benefit me at all--but it helps fill the roughly hour I'm at the gym (twice per week) and helps me feel like I got the job done.
@@bloodeagle2945 whatever bodypart was worked *should* need a minimum of two days off, but it's ok if it needs 3, 4 days off. You shouldn't feel depressed. Wiped out for a couple of days is possible.
Just watched Tyson fury series it shows him training. He just throws the weights around and no wonder why he has love handles still fat on him never muscular or trim. going to failure on your own is hard wont you injure yourself when putting them down best to have a partner or a weight rack
I love your content and training advice Jay, but you debunk yourself every time you discuss this topic. You have repeatedly stated that food labels are inaccurate by 20%, and that hardgainers only need a 10-20% surplus in order to put on size. So the increase in calories is not able to be accurately tracked. Since a surplus is necessary for hardgainers, they must be more aggressive with the surplus, which is why you recommend a 500-1000 surplus. Most people would categorize that as "bulking," yet you repeatedly say "don't bulk or you'll get fat." This logic makes zero sense. Unless I am misinterpreting.
Eat more and/or accept your genetics. I'm 225 wishing i could be 200 to fit better into suits, but when i lift i gain mass, and it isnt super sexy mass. We all want what we can't have, I'm a victim of that too. I just lift, move around, and make this aspect of my life like 10% of my focus. Plenty of other things to focus on that are important, you know?
Eat. Dozen eggs per day. Steak. Bananas. Avocados. Peanut butter sandwiches. More steak. Potatoes, rice, sweet potatoes, oats. More steak. Bison. Repeat. Eat more. Eat again. Drink a gallon of whole milk per day. Add protein shakes if u have not eaten enough.
NO! I tried GOMAD and extreme excess calories before, like 5 to 6000 calories a day (i'm tall) and got fat, letargic and sick of eating all day (it was like another job). You DO NOT need a hell lot of extra calories and not extra protein (it can even hinder gains due to digestion in hardgainers). If you are a hardgainer that will stick with HIT (1-2 workouts per week) and do not do a lot of extra exercise, please make yourself a favor and eat 4 times a day with 300-500 calories above maintenance, with protein between 100-140g day, and do it day after day for a year, then come here and tell me! I did it for a entire year and went from 170 to 211 pounds. I have a lot of BJJ training and, what I do in addition to what I said above is add back the calories burned in BJJ training, in the form of a 500-calorie shake on the days I train BJJ. Simple and effective. DO NOT FALL FOR THE "EAT EAT EAT" thing or you will pay the price with your physique, your mind, your health and your money!
Meh genetics. I buffed up 20kgs and i'm torso dominant. In a shirt you would say i lift but as like an amateur lmao. Stopped wasting my time spending all that cash cuz i was just getting unnecessary fat
I thought I was training hard until I joined Jay's coaching and he really showed me how to train hard. Thanks man! Also great job fixing the audio issues from previously
Same man. Jay’s a beast
I can second that! First workout was life changing
“Anyone who trains six days a week for hours each day, and then says he is training hard, doesn’t know what hard training is. He may be training diligently for long periods, but he isn’t training hard.” -Mike Mentzer
Is his coaching $5K ???
@@-What-are-your-thoughts I paid $2000. But I took advantage of a half-price deal. I think the price may vary depending on circumstances, etc..
⚠️ ⚠️ ⚠️ HARDGAINERS ⚠️ ⚠️ ⚠️
I tried GOMAD and extreme excess calories before, like 5 to 6000 calories a day (i'm tall) and got fat, letargic and sick of eating all day (it was like another job).
You DO NOT need a hell lot of extra calories and not extra protein (it can even hinder gains due to digestion in hardgainers).
If you are a hardgainer that will stick with HIT (1-2 workouts per week) and do not do a lot of extra exercise, please make yourself a favor and eat 4 times a day with 300-500 calories above maintenance, with protein between 100-140g day, and do it day after day for a year, then come here and tell me!
I did it for a entire year and went from 170 to 211 pounds. I have a lot of BJJ training and, what I do in addition to what I said above is add back the calories burned in BJJ training, in the form of a 500-calorie shake on the days I train BJJ. Simple and effective.
DO NOT FALL FOR THE "EAT EAT EAT" thing or you will pay the price with your physique, your mind, your health and your money!
good energy. your stuff is even better with this vibe.
I'm really surprised you don't have more subs. You should.
Some people want to do what most pros do...high volume
Rome wasn't built in a day
Sqaut
Bench press
Deadlift alternate with Chinups.
Do this and when you can Sqaut 150% of bodyweight for 8 reps, bench press 100% bodyweight for 8 reps and deadlift 175% for 8 reps. When you can hit these numbers your getting close. Some of these targets will have to be adjusted for your body type
Deadlift alternating with chin-ups…That’s a grip killer. That doesnt impact your deadlift?
@@patrickjohn0396he means 2 workouts I think but I could be wrong
So workout A:
Squat
Bench
Deadlift
Squat
Bench
Chin up
I lifted more than that...did not get big muscles...genetics rules...
New subscriber here, this is the kind of content I live for!
I am a hardgainer and for me to put on mass a little mass, I had to completely stop cardio for 2 years, which I loved doing, and solely do body weight exercises mixed with HIT, and cutback my workouts from 4-5x a week to 2x a week. I couldn’t just increase my calories because what happened is I became skinny fat then, so I went back to low carb high protein and healthy fat diet. I put on mass but I’m not talking much mass. Like 5lbs in a year is how long it took me.
How would you honestly rate the intensity of your workouts?
i did the same thing as you, but then i got a good advice. The advice was: don't worry about abs or being lean when your skinny, just bulk, not for 6 months not for a year. But for around 3 years and just keep eating more and more calories, when you begin to stagnate, i was stuck at 60kg for the longest time, and has helped me to get to 75kg in just a year so far. i got up to 4000 calroies a day without ending being fat, so can you friend
@@I_MightBeDemon Haha! You skip ab day! (sarcasm)😝
Some people just have such fast metabolisms or subpar genes. They will always be thin, unless their metabolism changes with age. Guys like this should just go for being a ripped 170 or 175...They are not meant to be that big.
I wouldn’t say subpar genes. Many of these things guys live long quality lives
I tend to eat dry roasted sea salted peanuts, walnuts or quesadillas as high calorie sources that I enjoy
You're loading up on seed-oils. Replace with beef.
@@aliendroneservices6621 Good advice if you wanna continue being underweight
@@gyrozeppeli7296 Don't forget to also load up on *_Red 40,_* then.
I wouldn't worry about measuring calories it's not very accurate. Measure the volume of what you eat do you eat 200 g of protein? Grams are a much better way to know how much you're eating.
water, loads of protein and carbs, HIT
For anyone watching this video- how would you explain to someone newer to this- "push your body hard"?
A lot of people think they are training with high intensity, but I'm not sure if everyone understands what this truly means. Most people haven't been truly pushed and tested, so mental/emotional thresholds may vary...
If you're training with a slow tempo (like 5sec up/5sec down) it's easy to explain and demonstrate.
The point most people would stop is when their muscles start burning, or they "perceive" they've reached failure. But if you keep pushing and have willpower/mental fortitude to endure half a minute of intense discomfort, you can do 2-3 reps more and reach true muscle failure. That's where *even if you keep pushing, you just can't move the weight* concentrically anymore.
Now if I were training with sloppy form, lots of swinging and momentum, I don't know how I could explain this... but If you're doing all your reps with proper tempo and form, you just keep doing that until you physically can't anymore. Just ignore your instincts to give up early, or jerk the weight/contort your body to make the reps easier.
he calls it going to momentary muscle failure. Don't use your max weight, use more like 75-80% of it, but do your reps fairly slowly, don't use any momentum or 'body jerking', make the muscle truly do all of the pos and neg work. Use a weight where you can do around 6-8 reps, until you tremble and fail. If you crap your pants, you pushed hard enough, but you really want to stop just short of that. One set is fine (although I tend to do maybe two or three tops, but I often do like 4-6 high quality reps per set). The extra set may not benefit me at all--but it helps fill the roughly hour I'm at the gym (twice per week) and helps me feel like I got the job done.
@@monkeyb1820 "If you crapped your pants, you've gone too far"
How about if I feel depressed after HIT, is it overtraining?
Split upper and lower body.
@@bloodeagle2945 whatever bodypart was worked *should* need a minimum of two days off, but it's ok if it needs 3, 4 days off. You shouldn't feel depressed. Wiped out for a couple of days is possible.
Where is the linked video?
Finally!
Just watched Tyson fury series it shows him training. He just throws the weights around and no wonder why he has love handles still fat on him never muscular or trim. going to failure on your own is hard wont you injure yourself when putting them down best to have a partner or a weight rack
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I love your content and training advice Jay, but you debunk yourself every time you discuss this topic. You have repeatedly stated that food labels are inaccurate by 20%, and that hardgainers only need a 10-20% surplus in order to put on size. So the increase in calories is not able to be accurately tracked. Since a surplus is necessary for hardgainers, they must be more aggressive with the surplus, which is why you recommend a 500-1000 surplus. Most people would categorize that as "bulking," yet you repeatedly say "don't bulk or you'll get fat." This logic makes zero sense. Unless I am misinterpreting.
Purposelessly tedious comment. Just eat more than you have been man.
@@GokuSilver337 Trust me man I did. Ate 4500-4800 calories for 6 straight months and I did not get fat. Hard gainers (like myself) need to “bulk.”
Eat more and/or accept your genetics. I'm 225 wishing i could be 200 to fit better into suits, but when i lift i gain mass, and it isnt super sexy mass. We all want what we can't have, I'm a victim of that too. I just lift, move around, and make this aspect of my life like 10% of my focus. Plenty of other things to focus on that are important, you know?
Eat.
Dozen eggs per day. Steak. Bananas. Avocados. Peanut butter sandwiches. More steak. Potatoes, rice, sweet potatoes, oats. More steak. Bison.
Repeat.
Eat more. Eat again.
Drink a gallon of whole milk per day.
Add protein shakes if u have not eaten enough.
NO! I tried GOMAD and extreme excess calories before, like 5 to 6000 calories a day (i'm tall) and got fat, letargic and sick of eating all day (it was like another job).
You DO NOT need a hell lot of extra calories and not extra protein (it can even hinder gains due to digestion in hardgainers).
If you are a hardgainer that will stick with HIT (1-2 workouts per week) and do not do a lot of extra exercise, please make yourself a favor and eat 4 times a day with 300-500 calories above maintenance, with protein between 100-140g day, and do it day after day for a year, then come here and tell me!
I did it for a entire year and went from 170 to 211 pounds. I have a lot of BJJ training and, what I do in addition to what I said above is add back the calories burned in BJJ training, in the form of a 500-calorie shake on the days I train BJJ. Simple and effective.
DO NOT FALL FOR THE "EAT EAT EAT" thing or you will pay the price with your physique, your mind, your health and your money!
this will make you ill.
Meh genetics. I buffed up 20kgs and i'm torso dominant. In a shirt you would say i lift but as like an amateur lmao. Stopped wasting my time spending all that cash cuz i was just getting unnecessary fat
I'm a little hardhead. I would need you to be more hands-on with me.
anyone know where is the vid Jay talks about at 4:00? i cant find it
Linked in previous video
It's just a 90s video, showing it used to be normal (hit).
Watch one od Dorian Yates videos if you want a good example of high intensity.