Are You Over Training?

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @matthewallenmiller4024
    @matthewallenmiller4024 9 місяців тому +45

    I like this channel because it sticks to one program, instead of new interviews with conflicting information every other week. Those guys are doing more harm than good. I feel sorry for people who are just trying to learn about exercise and nutrition, and then they have to sort through all of the influencer nonsense and grifting on UA-cam. Yikes.

    • @bloodeagle2945
      @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому +6

      True, those "experts" are deserving contempt.

    • @w7855
      @w7855 9 місяців тому +3

      Well said

    • @pietroscarpa2384
      @pietroscarpa2384 9 місяців тому +2

      It sticks to what works, and no gimmicks.

    • @bloodeagle2945
      @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому +1

      @@pietroscarpa2384 yes and specifically what is more effective.
      I said "yes and" to validate your point instead of "no it is" or "and but" to sound friendly, thus avoiding arguments (basic social skill).

    • @dtm4071
      @dtm4071 9 місяців тому +5

      I feel sorry for the people who get conned into HIT. They are happy to look like marathon runners whilst blaming their genetics. 'Overtraining' is another excuse. Weak.

  • @diabloblanco75
    @diabloblanco75 8 місяців тому +1

    The reason why I know you're the real deal, other than double checking on the info you give, is that you're not one of those "fitfluencers" that depends on keeping people on a hook. Everything I need is included in your Golden Era Program. Been using it for about a year. No bullshit "You need my supplements" sales pitch. No too good to be true promises. Incredibly easy to understand & follow. Thank you for all the free info. Best of luck & keep on kickin' ass.

  • @alexpittman3632
    @alexpittman3632 9 місяців тому +6

    I've been literally wondering the past week more about the subject and was hoping you do a video on it. You nailed it again like always! Thanks Jay

    • @PauperPeccator
      @PauperPeccator 9 місяців тому +2

      This was bugging me out as well. Extremely timely.

  • @Oettam_201lbs
    @Oettam_201lbs 9 місяців тому +3

    This is great, everything you teach makes perfect sense with what you taught previously. That’s the main characteristic of truth to me.

  • @nazarlivit3082
    @nazarlivit3082 9 місяців тому +2

    Your content is getting "bigger by the day" Jay!

  • @bloodeagle2945
    @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому +8

    I ❤ this daily upload

  • @DudeINeedWater
    @DudeINeedWater 9 місяців тому +11

    Im 33 . discovered hit in August 2023. I feel bad about learning this method so late. My shoulder would have been better...

    • @jobloggs8021
      @jobloggs8021 9 місяців тому +3

      Consider yourself lucky. I was 60 when I found this system 😔

    • @JayVincentFitness
      @JayVincentFitness  9 місяців тому +3

      Better late than never brother.

    • @jobloggs8021
      @jobloggs8021 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@JayVincentFitness. Thanks Jay. You have revolutionised my training. I always trained to failure all my life, because that made logical sense, but definitely way to much volume. In 40 years of training, at the grand age of 61, I've never seen so much improvement in my physique. Soon as I tell others about your system that you only need to do one set per ex twice a week or less, they look at me like I've got two heads?! 😬

  • @cherylkealey4831
    @cherylkealey4831 9 місяців тому +1

    Turned 48 today, trained upper body on my holiday in lanzarote, consistency is key. Enjoy the process.If i dont go up in weight every week it does not bother me. The increase in weight comes with time. Totally agree with Jay on this one.

  • @kurtfranklin2680
    @kurtfranklin2680 9 місяців тому +2

    To share my personal experience; I’m 41 and have been lifting since I was 15. In my teams I would do full body five days a week. I got quite big and strong in my 20s by doing bro splits. in my 30s I mostly did full body three days a week just to maintain good aesthetics.
    Recently, I was trying to do an upper lower split, six days a week, but that was too much volume to recover from.
    Now I am doing four upper body and two lower body workouts per week. And I’m seeing good results on that. Each muscle group is getting about 12 to 15 sets per week now. With 72 hours until that muscle is targeted again.
    Before ,when I was doing 18 to 21 or so sets, that was too much. I was hitting a muscle group every 48 hours. So, still lifting six days a week, but reducing volume and frequency by 1/3 was a great change for me.
    Chest and back
    Shoulders and arms
    Legs and core
    Chest and back
    Shoulders and arms
    Legs and core
    Rest
    I’ll throw in an extra rest day as needed.

    • @Oettam_201lbs
      @Oettam_201lbs 9 місяців тому

      If your daily schedule leaves you 1hr 1/2 a day…props to you!😮

  • @JimmyStruthers-lb3sn
    @JimmyStruthers-lb3sn 9 місяців тому +18

    Jay haven’t you read the latest studies ? Apparently 52 sets per week is optimal 😂

    • @bloodeagle2945
      @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому +10

      I don't even know how do people believe that, it doesn't even require critical-thinking skills, you just need common sense.

    • @iam_kxylee
      @iam_kxylee 9 місяців тому +1

      Bs 😂😂😂

    • @tommy92660
      @tommy92660 9 місяців тому +2

      Awesome! Just quit the job and start doing 52 sets to failure 😂😂

    • @bloodeagle2945
      @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому

      @@tommy92660 best decision ever

    • @JayVincentFitness
      @JayVincentFitness  8 місяців тому +6

      Yea. If you do a set with the pink dumb bells you might need 52

  • @thomashilmersen711
    @thomashilmersen711 9 місяців тому +2

    Hang on a second here! The thing is that if you plateau, take a 2 week layoff, and then continue working out with more rest days between each workout, you will again get stronger. So this disproves the idea that the problem simply is that now your nervous system has adapted. Also, try going the other way. Try increasing frequency rather than reducing it. Now you will find that you get weaker from workout to workout, rather than simply not getting stronger. Again, this clearly proves that it is not just a matter of neural adaption.

  • @thomashilmersen711
    @thomashilmersen711 9 місяців тому +8

    John Little actually measured the body composition of the trainees in his gym over time, and he found that Mike Mentzer's consolidation routine was the only program that added muscle mass for a lot of trainees.

    • @JayVincentFitness
      @JayVincentFitness  9 місяців тому +7

      This is why I think that’s the case…. Pre Instagram and social media fitness nonsense… people trained HARD. People trained far harder then they do now. Also, if the trainees were instructed, that’s a whole different ball game. Way more intense which generally requires a reduction in volume. I’ll do a video on this

    • @keithbarbaro7590
      @keithbarbaro7590 9 місяців тому +2

      I heard him say that on High Intensity Business. He said subjects who did a two set workout gained muscle.
      I've actually done that for upper body. One set of dips and one set seated rows every 7-10 days.
      For lower body I prefer stairs.

  • @spurzo-thespiralspacewolf8916
    @spurzo-thespiralspacewolf8916 9 місяців тому +2

    Paul Carter and Chris Beardsley talked about this on their podcast

  • @richbrake9910
    @richbrake9910 5 місяців тому +1

    You'll also have anxiety from your CNS being over taxed when you are over training.

  • @dennisrkb
    @dennisrkb 9 місяців тому

    More symptoms:
    - Stalled progress/regression at the gym (only if you train to true MMF and everything else is on point)
    - Systemic fatigue/chronic tiredness
    - MMF hits you suddenly, like a wall, rather than gradually.

  • @richiemac2395
    @richiemac2395 9 місяців тому

    I was doing HIT every other week for 5 months and did not loose any mass. Now I'm back to doing it every week but only because I'm experimenting what is better for me as far as rest days.

  • @bloodeagle2945
    @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому +3

    For the neck exercises, do I need side flexion or rotation, or are flexion and extension enough? Is the neck just the same as the abdominal, specifically when you said that the majority don't need trunk rotation and side flexion for the obliques since they are significantly stimulated with trunk flexion (sit-ups)?

    • @alexpittman3632
      @alexpittman3632 9 місяців тому +2

      Dr. Doug McGuff has a great video on that here on UA-cam if you look it up. I think it's called how to train your neck Dr. Doug McGuff and it's a great video. But I think you're right about how to do it what you said is what I remember in that video.

    • @bloodeagle2945
      @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому

      @@alexpittman3632 I'm confused because I asked ChatGPT and it said I also need some side flexion, but knowing the fitness industry, I believe ChatGPT got that information from the same "experts" that say we need to train the long and short head of the biceps.

    • @ndt270
      @ndt270 9 місяців тому

      @@alexpittman3632 Absolutely Alex! I found McGuff's neck video and started exactly as he demonstrated this January 11th at a frequency of every 5 days. Within three cycles, I noticed greater range of motion and a big reduction in pain. I cracked a neck vert in 1982, but didn't know it until a year later when I had an X-ray done. This protocol has worked wonders for me using a 10/10 cadence. As usual with McGuff, the video is very well done with clear explanations and very good demos of the movements. Since you're using your arms for the resistance, it can be challenging as you approach 100% effort, but I have found this neck program to be very safe, and has almost completely resoved the pain that has plagued me for over 40 years, and increased my range of motion. Takes me about 9 minutes to do this program and you can do it virtually anywhere. I use an old leather belt at the back of my skull a strap, and it works. Good call.

    • @bloodeagle2945
      @bloodeagle2945 9 місяців тому

      @@alexpittman3632 I've just watched some Dr. Doug McGuff videos this time, it's like learning HIT again. He's like Mike Mentzer, fluent and knowledgeable. I think he's even more intelligent than Mike Mentzer.

    • @alexpittman3632
      @alexpittman3632 9 місяців тому

      @@bloodeagle2945 yes Dr. Doug McGuff is incredibly intelligent and definitely an expert when it comes to hit. Mike Menser though also has very interesting perspectives. J Vincent is the bomb here as well. it can be incredibly complex and so some people are better at simplifying it and others can break down the more complex parts. It all makes one better at applying hit training. Good luck brother! Cool username as well blood eagle. I'm a huge Viking lore fan. You into Amon Amarth? my favourite band of all time.

  • @kilner79
    @kilner79 8 місяців тому

    Im 37 not really ever trained and ive been doing 3 sets to failure sore for 5 to 6 days after last week i had the session of my life 2 reps extra on every set i was over the moon the prior week to that was a bad session thort i was on a plateau anyway this week i went back ready for it and i was down reps and on some not even able to lift the same weight im at around the 7 week stage i dont think thers enough good information on the Internet for people in these stages of training when trying to keep motivated then feel like your letting yourself down even when going above and beyond. Im thinking lower my sets but increase frequency at the gym ? I was in a bad accident and broke both legs so i mainly just do one upperbody routine once every 7 days like i said im very sore 5 to 6 days after and my legs i do some body weight squats just to keep myself moving

  • @3Runner95
    @3Runner95 9 місяців тому

    You build up some fatigue on most programs, if you take a week off after training for 20+ weeks you will hit pr's on many exercises instantly.. But for bodybuilding you don't have to be at 100% full recovery, as long as you're able to progress you're good. Also very good point to not change anything when you "plateau" rotating exercises frequently is the best way to waste your time, when you return to the original exercise you will plateau at the same weight again realizing that you made no gains.

  • @alexpittman3632
    @alexpittman3632 9 місяців тому +4

    Double check the spelling in the title of this video. The word you're is there instead of you if it matters at all. Great video regardless

  • @MultiMyNickName
    @MultiMyNickName 9 місяців тому

    I don't believe there is such a thing. We have a million theories based on sedentary modern lives but the reality is, the human body was once engaged in running, hunting, climbing, fighting, and carrying day in day out, it was designed for it like any other mammals body. You simply have to push through it and get your body back into being adjusted to that way of working. The modern human body doesn't function well because we only train it a little in gym sessions compared to all the sitting on its ass it does. Our hormones don't produce the same, the chemical balance isn't the same as it would be if we were in constant daily action. Think of a builder, a builder can lift 5 days a week no worries all day, why because their bodies adjust to it, they dont need a rest day after lifting bricks.

    • @dtm4071
      @dtm4071 9 місяців тому +2

      Overtraining is bullshit.

  • @SoChilledOutGuy
    @SoChilledOutGuy 9 місяців тому +1

    you*

  • @BillyBob-fh5he
    @BillyBob-fh5he 9 місяців тому

    Try working a real job then you will know what over training feels like. This dude over charges people for stuff other people thought up!