This was one of the first upgrades I did to my truck, I wanted to thoroughly test these components before I installed them on my wife's truck and to recommend them to anyone as I do know there are alot of choices out there for aluminum radiators and electric fans. I've had these installed on my truck for 3 years and I am located in a desert climate, so far so good!
What size radiator are you using these on? I upgraded my radiator from the original factory one to an aluminum three core one and the electric fans I had wouldn't pull through the bigger radiator plus my remote trans cooler.
@@FahrenheitMetalworks I use a 2 row on both trucks with 1” tubes. You need high CFM fans, also you can mount the trans cooler under the oil pan (where the original one mounts, if it fits). If you need more cooling a high flow water pump and thermostat will help.
I love working on these old things. I just got my transmission issue taken care of on my 91. Turns out the tps was causing the transmission to shift out of time and real hard too. The old one tested good on the meter but it wasnt motorcraft. I dont know what black magic they do to their parts but motorcraft sensors are the only way to go on these old tubs.
I have the same issue actually. I cant find a motor craft sensor so i found something else. After I drive past 60 the needle bounces all around. I’ll just have to live with it unfortunately. If you ever find a solution please let me know.
@@NeonFlaming0 I think it is the VSS, thats the sensor thats in the rear diff right? Thats the sensor I had changed when I had the diff rebuilt. I tried replacing it with the stock sensor but it did a lot of early or late gear shifting
@LordKenjii some models use the abs sensor in the diff for speed and shift times. Others use a sensor on the tail shift of the transmission/transfercase depending on whatever motor/tranny you are running. My 91 E40D has the speed sensor tied to vss. It's a manual cable for the speedometer and an electrical signal for the Trans shift. Don't forget to double-check every vacuum line you have.
I was was having the same issue with my 91 f150. All you have to do is calibrate it to where it reads .96 volts at closed throttle. I had to drill the holes on the tps sensor a lil bigger because the duralast brand comes at .87 volts from the store.
Great video. I've watched them all, and done just about all of them on my 1996 F150. Thanks for everything as they have helped me out tremendously. I can't believe how mint your wife's Bronco is, it's a battle keeping things clean and running here in the NorthEast. Those crimp joints and wire tap wouldn't make it through the winter up here.2q
Hey man, all your videos have been super helpful for me. I'm currently restoring a '89 Bronco and your videos have been amazing. I'm doing a fresh 351w build trying to keep it pretty "factory", but you've really given me good direction on what things could use upgrades. Main ones I'm hitting is the saginaw, turning gear/column upgrade, and electric fans.
Man all your videos have save me so much time, thank you for all your videos and time!!!. I just have one question do you think one day you can do a video on how to reset the needles in the cluster I remove my needles when I swapped out the cluster to have an RPM gauge and I’m not 100% sure if I placed them back correctly.
@TheFixTech the rubber portions of my 3/8 coolant bypass hosing needs to be replaced, but as you know the hosing is permanently attached to the steel tubing (attached like a hydraulic line). Do you have any ideas on how to replace the rubber portion? Maybe cut off the part with the hydraulic-style fitting and just attach new 3/8 hose with a hose clamp? Thanks, love the video and plan to do the same electric fan on mine.
What if my truck doesnt have ac I have an 86 f250 with the efi 5.0 but it didnt come with the ac setup would I have to resort to wiring it up to a manual switch?
No, the fans will turn on with the supplied temperature sensor. The blue wire shows only routes to the a/c if needed this is an option to force the fans on half speed with a/c turned on.
Nice tutorial. Did you happen to add up the total amp draw from the Cooling fan, Coil, Lights, AC clutch, Heater Fan, Stereo? Looks like, the factory alternator is 75- 80.
I originally had a 75 amp alternator on my truck and it ran everything well enough for a couple years until I decided to upgrade the alternator to a 3g 130 amp. I have a video showing my alternator upgrade tutorial. The shown fan controller soft starts the fans which reduces shock to the electrical system.
In the winter time if you don't need your ac, you can unplug the compressor to reduce draw. These models run the compressor even if you are just using heat.
Nice video, have you measured the CFM the new fans? I have a 1986 5.8 bronco myself and tried dual Mishimoto 12in race line fans. The advised 1800 CFM and did put out what they claimed. I found the stock fan pulls 5900 to 6000 CFM at 3000 RPM. So I'm Texas it was hard to have to go back to the stock fan since the electric fans looked great but couldn't best the stock air flow l.
The fans shown in this video pull 3400 cfm combined, which is good enough for the California desert where I am located. I’ve run the 1800 cfm fans with similar poor results, then I upgraded to these and difference is night and day. I can run the A/C on 110 degree days up a hill no problem. I do also recommend a high flow thermostat and good condition/quality radiator.
@TheFixTech Can you please do a video on how to either replace the emissions parts on a 90-96 bronco or how to delete kit the emissions? I have a 91 bronco and my emissions canisters/ system is really nasty. There is a hard line that goes into the back of the block.
I have noticed to keep the stock engine running efficient and help MPGs it is better to keep the emissions system intact. Unless you are going strictly for performance. I would then recommend upgrading the head to one’s that don’t have the rear smog/air port. Deleting the erg system is easy but will require ecm tuning for best results.
So would this Northern Module work with simiar fan shrouds? Theres an off brand shroud thats very simiar, and it comes with the aluminum OBS F150 radiator for less cheap.
I have a 4.9 f150 i use for hauling pallets would this upgrade help keep the temps down while towing fully loaded? Been thinking about converting for a while
Yes, since you can control when the fans turn on and at full speed. Be sure the rest of your cooling system is in good condition, even the heater core. Use a high flow low temp thermostat 160-180 degree if you need extra cooling.
How is the ac compressor doing, i installed mine directly to the compressor, and my compressor comes on even with ac off and its freezing my lines and wanting to over heat.
Mine are operating normally (have installed on multiple trucks). Be sure you route the blue wire to the correct wire on the AC compressor. Try to disconnect the wire and see if all is good.
Thanks for the response on my 1st question!! One more question: so i purchased the all aluminum 3 row rad; and when moving my transmission fittings over,.....they are too big. Wont screw in. So does the transmission lines go straight into the aluminum rad?? Or do i need to hunt for smaller fittings??
Awesome, great video I may try this to my truck. Question, in your opinion, would it make sense to run and taping it in the ECT sensor on the engine bock instead of taping it to the radiator?
The sensor is specifically calibrated to soft start the fans around 180 degree engine temp, the temp at the radiator outlet is cooler than the actual engine temp so in theory you can locate the sensor in different locations for different fan start times. I have tested this and found that near the radiator outlet as suggested to be satisfactory
Did you delete some of your videos? There was one video I saw in the past where you talked about a "spindle diaphragm" being installed incorrectly but now I cant find it. Am i wrong?
I had to go with electric fans on my LS swapped 85 Cutlass cuz of clearance issues. I thought i was lucky at the time to score a complete rad Shroud with dual fan setup for $100 cdn. It was new out of box. By time i added relays fuses and fusebox is was over 200 cdn. I went to the trouble of programming ECU for two come on temps. i think hi speed fan came on at 185F and additional low speed fan came on at 195. TURNS out unless you are just idling around in stop n go traffic the fans almost never even came on. ANY amt of air from just driving cooled engine well enough w/o ANY fans. if i had to do it again i would turn on low speed fan first as it was half the noise and probly good enough for most situations.
Hi. I recently transferred all my data to a new 3ds. However, one game, Mario Kart 7, doesn't load (but it does read) in the new one, but it still both reads and loads in the old 3DS. Also, all my other games work perfectly fine in both 3DS's. Does this have to do with my SD card or other data, or is it any other reason? Can you please help me try to fix this before the online servers shut down in April.
This was one of the first upgrades I did to my truck, I wanted to thoroughly test these components before I installed them on my wife's truck and to recommend them to anyone as I do know there are alot of choices out there for aluminum radiators and electric fans. I've had these installed on my truck for 3 years and I am located in a desert climate, so far so good!
What size radiator are you using these on? I upgraded my radiator from the original factory one to an aluminum three core one and the electric fans I had wouldn't pull through the bigger radiator plus my remote trans cooler.
@@FahrenheitMetalworks I use a 2 row on both trucks with 1” tubes. You need high CFM fans, also you can mount the trans cooler under the oil pan (where the original one mounts, if it fits). If you need more cooling a high flow water pump and thermostat will help.
Can you send the link of the temperature sensor
The quality of the work you do is amazing. We really appreciate all the details and information you share. 👍🏻
Thank you Rose!
You are a godsend. Please keep making videos on the OBS. Even simple maintenance would be greatly appreciated.
I just inherited my grandpa’s old 1996 f150, definitely thinking about doing some upgrades. Your videos are giving me too many ideas lol!
The BEST how to video I have seen. Easy to follow and to the point. Clean install.
Thank you
Agreed 💯%!! Thx for sharing this knowledge!
I love working on these old things. I just got my transmission issue taken care of on my 91. Turns out the tps was causing the transmission to shift out of time and real hard too.
The old one tested good on the meter but it wasnt motorcraft. I dont know what black magic they do to their parts but motorcraft sensors are the only way to go on these old tubs.
I have the same issue actually. I cant find a motor craft sensor so i found something else. After I drive past 60 the needle bounces all around. I’ll just have to live with it unfortunately. If you ever find a solution please let me know.
@LordKenjii I got my sensor from rock auto. And as for your needle have you checked the speedo cable and the vss?
@@NeonFlaming0 I think it is the VSS, thats the sensor thats in the rear diff right? Thats the sensor I had changed when I had the diff rebuilt. I tried replacing it with the stock sensor but it did a lot of early or late gear shifting
@LordKenjii some models use the abs sensor in the diff for speed and shift times. Others use a sensor on the tail shift of the transmission/transfercase depending on whatever motor/tranny you are running. My 91 E40D has the speed sensor tied to vss. It's a manual cable for the speedometer and an electrical signal for the Trans shift. Don't forget to double-check every vacuum line you have.
I was was having the same issue with my 91 f150. All you have to do is calibrate it to where it reads .96 volts at closed throttle. I had to drill the holes on the tps sensor a lil bigger because the duralast brand comes at .87 volts from the store.
Great video. I've watched them all, and done just about all of them on my 1996 F150. Thanks for everything as they have helped me out tremendously. I can't believe how mint your wife's Bronco is, it's a battle keeping things clean and running here in the NorthEast. Those crimp joints and wire tap wouldn't make it through the winter up here.2q
Hey man, all your videos have been super helpful for me. I'm currently restoring a '89 Bronco and your videos have been amazing. I'm doing a fresh 351w build trying to keep it pretty "factory", but you've really given me good direction on what things could use upgrades. Main ones I'm hitting is the saginaw, turning gear/column upgrade, and electric fans.
Glad I can help, good luck with your 351w build.
Thank you! I’ve been waiting for this lol.
Hope you like it!
Wow definitely a nice upgrade especially with those dual electric cooling fans not bad
Thanks man! I have a 94 f150 and all of these videos will definitely help out!
Glad to help
Just picked up a 92 f150 flare side a few weeks ago, videos like this help keep these vehicles on the road. Great work.
Great video. You are very informative and you explained everything very nicely. I will be doing this to my 95 f150. Thank you sir.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the info cleanest install i seen👌 will be doing this for my 93 lightning
Nice truck!
I really love how informational your videos are
I appreciate that!
Man all your videos have save me so much time, thank you for all your videos and time!!!.
I just have one question do you think one day you can do a video on how to reset the needles in the cluster I remove my needles when I swapped out the cluster to have an RPM gauge and I’m not 100% sure if I placed them back correctly.
That's one clean looking set up....
Have you done a video on u-joints yet? Big fan of your in-depth videos.
Followed! Not many detailed videos as yours! Hope to see more videos coming
Where do you buy all Kit you install… thanks for great videos
I have added links in the description
@TheFixTech the rubber portions of my 3/8 coolant bypass hosing needs to be replaced, but as you know the hosing is permanently attached to the steel tubing (attached like a hydraulic line). Do you have any ideas on how to replace the rubber portion? Maybe cut off the part with the hydraulic-style fitting and just attach new 3/8 hose with a hose clamp? Thanks, love the video and plan to do the same electric fan on mine.
Yes, you can cut off the hose, flare the metal pipe and install a new hose with clamp.
Where do you buy all Kit you install… thanks for videos
What if my truck doesnt have ac I have an 86 f250 with the efi 5.0 but it didnt come with the ac setup would I have to resort to wiring it up to a manual switch?
No, the fans will turn on with the supplied temperature sensor. The blue wire shows only routes to the a/c if needed this is an option to force the fans on half speed with a/c turned on.
@TheFixTech So I don't have to use the blue or green wire for the fans to work?
@@KellDogg5.0 Correct, these are both optional.
@@TheFixTech Oh okay thank you for explaining
Nice tutorial. Did you happen to add up the total amp draw from the Cooling fan, Coil, Lights, AC clutch, Heater Fan, Stereo? Looks like, the factory alternator is 75- 80.
I originally had a 75 amp alternator on my truck and it ran everything well enough for a couple years until I decided to upgrade the alternator to a 3g 130 amp. I have a video showing my alternator upgrade tutorial. The shown fan controller soft starts the fans which reduces shock to the electrical system.
In the winter time if you don't need your ac, you can unplug the compressor to reduce draw. These models run the compressor even if you are just using heat.
Nice video, have you measured the CFM the new fans?
I have a 1986 5.8 bronco myself and tried dual Mishimoto 12in race line fans. The advised 1800 CFM and did put out what they claimed. I found the stock fan pulls 5900 to 6000 CFM at 3000 RPM. So I'm Texas it was hard to have to go back to the stock fan since the electric fans looked great but couldn't best the stock air flow l.
The fans shown in this video pull 3400 cfm combined, which is good enough for the California desert where I am located. I’ve run the 1800 cfm fans with similar poor results, then I upgraded to these and difference is night and day. I can run the A/C on 110 degree days up a hill no problem. I do also recommend a high flow thermostat and good condition/quality radiator.
What would be a good ignition source for the green wire on these trucks in your opinion?
You can route this wire to any 12v key on ignition source, just be sure to use the diode. Anything from the wiper motor to the radio will work.
Excellent walk-through the process! Do you have an aftermarket gauge monitoring transmission fluid temp?
@TheFixTech Can you please do a video on how to either replace the emissions parts on a 90-96 bronco or how to delete kit the emissions? I have a 91 bronco and my emissions canisters/ system is really nasty. There is a hard line that goes into the back of the block.
I have noticed to keep the stock engine running efficient and help MPGs it is better to keep the emissions system intact. Unless you are going strictly for performance. I would then recommend upgrading the head to one’s that don’t have the rear smog/air port. Deleting the erg system is easy but will require ecm tuning for best results.
So would this Northern Module work with simiar fan shrouds? Theres an off brand shroud thats very simiar, and it comes with the aluminum OBS F150 radiator for less cheap.
Yes, the module will work with any single or dual fan setup.
I have a 4.9 f150 i use for hauling pallets would this upgrade help keep the temps down while towing fully loaded? Been thinking about converting for a while
Yes, since you can control when the fans turn on and at full speed. Be sure the rest of your cooling system is in good condition, even the heater core. Use a high flow low temp thermostat 160-180 degree if you need extra cooling.
I have a 1984 Ford ranger with the 2.8 V6 can I run this setup on it my stock fan is cracked and I can't find one no where
How is the ac compressor doing, i installed mine directly to the compressor, and my compressor comes on even with ac off and its freezing my lines and wanting to over heat.
Mine are operating normally (have installed on multiple trucks). Be sure you route the blue wire to the correct wire on the AC compressor. Try to disconnect the wire and see if all is good.
Thanks for the response on my 1st question!! One more question: so i purchased the all aluminum 3 row rad; and when moving my transmission fittings over,.....they are too big. Wont screw in. So does the transmission lines go straight into the aluminum rad?? Or do i need to hunt for smaller fittings??
What’s the name or where can I find this kit you installed? Awesome detailed install and clean work, thanks for sharing
Awesome, great video I may try this to my truck. Question, in your opinion, would it make sense to run and taping it in the ECT sensor on the engine bock instead of taping it to the radiator?
The sensor is specifically calibrated to soft start the fans around 180 degree engine temp, the temp at the radiator outlet is cooler than the actual engine temp so in theory you can locate the sensor in different locations for different fan start times. I have tested this and found that near the radiator outlet as suggested to be satisfactory
@@TheFixTech awesome thank you.. I will definitely do this upgrade. 👍🏽
Does this fan work on my 1988 Ford Bronco ll? Or is there a size for it? The truck gets real hot under the hood.
Your link to the rad is not working. What type of radiator is it?
I fixed the link, thank you for letting me know. The radiator is made by Northern part 205123
Did you delete some of your videos? There was one video I saw in the past where you talked about a "spindle diaphragm" being installed incorrectly but now I cant find it. Am i wrong?
That was in my “automatic to manual locking hubs” video which is still active
When will you be installing an upgraded
transmission cooler
I may look into that as summer approaches, temps by me are still chilly
@@TheFixTech I cant wait to see what type you pick
Where I can get those electric fan
I have added a link in the description
I'm having trouble finding the electronic fan controller do you have a part number from northern
Hello
Where did you order the fans ?
I had to go with electric fans on my LS swapped 85 Cutlass cuz of clearance issues.
I thought i was lucky at the time to score a complete rad Shroud with dual fan setup for $100 cdn. It was new out of box.
By time i added relays fuses and fusebox is was over 200 cdn.
I went to the trouble of programming ECU for two come on temps.
i think hi speed fan came on at 185F and additional low speed fan came on at 195.
TURNS out unless you are just idling around in stop n go traffic the fans almost never even came on.
ANY amt of air from just driving cooled engine well enough w/o ANY fans.
if i had to do it again i would turn on low speed fan first as it was half the noise and probly good enough for most situations.
Wherr can i get the temp sensor?
Nice video want to do this to my 96 you don’t happen to have the part numbers would be a great help
Where did you get the temperature sensor?
Hi. I recently transferred all my data to a new 3ds. However, one game, Mario Kart 7, doesn't load (but it does read) in the new one, but it still both reads and loads in the old 3DS. Also, all my other games work perfectly fine in both 3DS's. Does this have to do with my SD card or other data, or is it any other reason? Can you please help me try to fix this before the online servers shut down in April.
Nice upgrade and video. For the cost and additional points of failure from a third party product, I just don't think it would be worth doing.
where you bought it
Where you buy all these
I have added links in the description
Haha we have a similiar taste, I also have a trans am gta and ford bronco 88, and 95
I’ve seen your GTA, a 5sp with digital dash, very rare!
@@TheFixTech Indeed, thank you!
What's the name of the fan set up
$1K in parts alone?!? I definitely want to start smoking whatever it is you're smoking
You’re giving me too many ideas you better stop!!
Really? There’s nothing really wrong with the big original fan design. These is for the folks that need to alter their vehicles with fascinations.
Where do you buy all Kit you install… thanks for videos
Where do you buy all Kit you install… thanks for videos