D4 S1 Thorns Barbarian Malignant Heart Variants
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2024
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Today I bring you a new video discussing the new malignant hearts, and what 2 hearts truly dominate. I will be showcasing the Barber heart which allows substantial AoE critical strike damage to proc off of our thorns, as well as Creeping Death heart which allows massive amount of DoT damage.
Hope you all enjoy and leave a comment on what you'd like to see next!
Have been checking EVERY day for you to upload your next video! Very excited seeing this! ❤
You're the best! Thanks for checking in on me and hope you enjoy the new vid, more to come as soon as I can 😅
Have us waiting on the deep dives man! Been looking forward to it, can't wait til ya drop the next vid 🤘
It's out! And it's ground breaking, hope you enjoy
@@KingGault groundbreaking and worth the wait! Super excited to get into it with your setup recommendations, Berserk ripping back on the table looking amazing!
Thanks for making these thorns barb videos. They really inspired me to try thorns barb and its actually so much fun.
It would be incredible, a pvp guide of thorns. I follow your videos from the first. And I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting for it this season. Thank you very much for everything, and great work, as always. :)
I really do appreciate your time for making these builds they are great!
Glad to see this. I hoarded a lot of amultes, rings and hearts in anticipation of what you would recommend. I can salvage the uselss ones now that came up with this video. I check your channel everryday for updates.
I started the season with murderinc's rend levelling build and it was pretty good. Switched back to your thorns build around 56, immediately felt more powerful. Ran the capstone at 60 without any trouble, been farming helltides and pvp zone elites with mobs 15-18 levels above me and it's been pretty easy. added health/dmg resist elites take a while to burn down but like... I'm in sacred gear at 60 and these are lvl 78 monsters. I love this build so much!
Come on Gault, we all know the demons arent dying from thorns, barbarian pulls them close and they die simply because they cant stand the awesome chadness that barbarian is. We all know that :D Great video btw, keep rocking and looking forward to the next one!
Using the barbs heart I was almost able to clear a nightmare 100 dungeons while at level 90. Good stuff!
Your leveling guide really helped me out this season, thanks!
Hey could u post an updated build link I'm just trying to see all the aspects and Affixs used, love your videos
i like the tankier variant + razorplate, im using the ignore pain heart and cruising for now, did a 62NM and gonna keep grinding it higher
Thank goodness! I thought u ledt d4 for good after the patch like so many players. Glad u did an update
Close... you guys are my only motivation at the moment :P
Looking forward to your next build vid mate. I just got my Barb to lv38 and found some very useful gear which has made a massive improvement for my thorns build.
I use the heart that ignores unto 15% damage. I already leveled a Druid now my second class is barb. I beat the capstone into WT4 and level 54. Now just running the PVP area to level up to 70. Keep testing and your leveling build is defiantly rocking.
Nice. 55 was my capstone beaten solo. What did you use on your druid, what level did you clear the capstone with, and how does druid compare to thorns barb this season?
@@auretioustaak6579 My Thorns barb feel way better at this point "level 64" then my druid at that point. I leveled with Pulverize build and found the key aspects early so that definitely helped. I leveled my druid using strong holds and PVP zones then strictly nightmare dungeons.
For the bleed DoT version, you seem to have dropped frenzy for rend. Any changes in the build other than that? Also love to have someone consistently repping thorns, it’s always been one of my favorite game archetypes
can't wait the updated D4 planner :)
got my horrifying master title with your thorns build thanks!
I have switched to your original guide. It feels like I am killing faster than you do in your video I wonder if the stuns lower the regular thorns damage. I am closing 90 though, so I might try some of these variants, I have the uniques I think. Keep up the good work, you made my barb fun to play
check it out now! Full end game guide for season 1, we are incredibly OP now. Hope you enjoy
Thanks for the video! I'd love to see videos such as more S1 builds or your thoughts about the upcoming update. It would be great if you could tackle other barb builds than thorns. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!
The crit is so OP. I crit a malignant elite for 1mil. Insane. Thanks for the video and build guide.
After some textensive testing, im level 100 and testing both a high crit damage setup vs a setup that focuses damage to close and physical damage+all stats, the crit damage setup is actually less damage, the barbers explosion may be a true crit but it's not stronger on a thorns build because thorns itself doesn't crit, so by adding crit damage and removing say damage to close, you're removing your double dipping damage to close and adding a single dipping crit damage, thus getting less damage than before. And by double dipping I mean, it increases your thorns damage and increases your barbers explosion crit hit.
If there's anything I'd suggest for the build is to get crit strike chance only on your rings and completely opt out of crit damage, so this way when you steel grasp you proc barber heart on more of the enemies.
Cannot wait to try this! Just hit 50 and doing NM dungeons, feels good.
with the levelling thorns build, minus the fire exploding when berserking aspect and the bear clans aspect, I cleared capstone to wt 4 solo at level 55. So you're close to the power up. :D
KGault, I admit it. I started the season as a druid. Did what I wanted to and now I'm back to thorns. I found a PERFECT fists of fate and penitent while playing druid so it looks like I'm going with the bleed setup when I eventually hit 80 lol
Been running the original PVP build. Still getting my butt kicked by higher level Rouges though. Would be awesome if you do an updated PVP setup. Keep up the great work Kevin!
we still need the build planner you promised us :)
I think he is preparing it ;)
its coming Im slow I know :(
@@KingGault we're not in a hurry, we're just impatient ;)
really want to see thoughts on how you will run pvp with the hearts soon - pvp video plz!
Same here
The barber one seems interesting if it is really working with thorns but I thought I tested it myself and it didn't seem to do anything. I am just using a purely defensive set of malignant hearts and doing wonders at level 84 completing tier 50-60 nightmare dungeons.
can you share which one? just started following his guide
nice to see you again man! do you have any plans to release a full guide for the 2 variants?
I second this. A guide for each variant would be awesome
Indeed, coming very soon !
ALL HAIL KING GAULT THE KING OF THORNS!!!
Have you posted an update to gear/skills/paragon for this?
Hey man. Curious if you have any answers to the builds single target problem. Pretty much the only issue I’m running Into as I approach 100. With the upcoming 100-120% boss life Increases and the goal of Uber Lilith. Trying to come up with a solution. Any ideas?
Same question. I can clear T100 but not Lilith
check out the new video out now! Lilith 1 shot
Looking forward to the build. I’m level 50 so I have time to fix everything.
Heck ya! I will, may take a few days but I'll getter done :)
How’s it coming?
Great vid man! Question for ya - what would you recommend for gems on the weapons for the bleeding/thorns build? What have you seen that seems to work the best?
After giving it some internal thought, I think the true winner here is steel grasp, not frenzy and perhaps not even thorns, because steel grasp can deal damage and crit you're actually getting barber to apply its effect to every single enemy you crit with the initial chains that pulls enemies in, your frenzy is doing pretty much jack all here since it is single target. Using a skill like whirlwind would be a way stronger application of the barber since it is an aoe and you can proc barber on every single enemy instead and that would maximize barbers damage, just kinda feel like if you're going barber you are straying away from the thorns buildness and going more to just killing through doing the attacking, I do see a lot of value in the barbers ability to help kill bosses quite a bit easier though. As a level 84 thorns barb with a very efficient tank setup I am killing things very quickly even without barber so I'm not sure how necessary it even is, I like the ignoring pain heart for extremely good tanking paired with revenge and resurgent life hearts. I also think you're really giving up a lot of tanking capability if you're going to try maximizing barber in a thorns build.
Thorns damage as far as a base is the highest damage in the game as our health pool will be roughly 30-35k @ lvl 100. Now that all of your thorns damage can be procc'd onto multiple aoe targets for barber, and every explosion from barber is a crit, you can now stack crit damage and get thorns to put it absurd numbers. Fast forward to increased density patch, and it will be pretty hilarious to say the least.
@@KingGault Im curious because youre saying your base health will be 30k but I am level 80 with health on virtually everything using the correct paragon board utilizing health nodes and I am only just over 11k? Where is the other 20k health going to come from?
Wanted to add on to this because I'm also running Ignore Pain, Revenge, Resurgent Life. Everyone I'm playing with is doing great damage but not everyone is able to survive harder content. I have saved our groups from wiping in NMD countless times already just by being tanky and I don't intend to swap that out for more damage.
What hearts did you have on your necklace and other ring? I kept rewatching but couldn't see what the rest of the build was using.
so what stats are we dropping in favour for the crit dmg?
I love the music choice! Brings me back to the good days of gaming/working out/friends! Great guide!
love the videos plz keep em coming
Can you put anywhere each piece of gear you are using? Maybe on the page that has the whole build?
Love these videos you listen to just to learn and then be blasted with music that is waaaay to loud... God damn... 🙉
hah ya... extremely new to editing, didn't realize there was an audio mixer 🤣
My god were you in my head last night I literally decided to do exactly what you are doing, lol
Nice, just wondering, for speed, I should still use razorplate?
Absolutely as long as you have enough sustain to not die razorplate will be by far the best item for the build
Nice. I’m only lvl57 but running the creeping death build except I haven’t got Penitent greaves yet. Running Rage of Harrogath chest atm until I get a better chest to drop but I imagine it would work well with the crit build
Thabks for the buikd bro. Yours is the best out of all the UA-cams. No point in doing millions of damage of you cant die lol.
Sick man, glad to see your hearts variant. Have you tried any PVP yet with these builds?
not yet, back to work I go, maybe tonight
first! also, im pretty sure taunt is also considered a cc.
It very well may be! Bleed thorns is the most fun IMO
Aspect of Anemia can be used to apply stuns to bleeding targets when you deal direct damage to them which might be more powerful then relying on the steel grasp to proc stuns.
I've been messing with a hybrid thorns aoe crit/bleed build myself working in the Iron maelstrom ultimate skill over frenzy, gushing wounds and using the barber heart. It's work in progress as I'm still only level 72 (though maxed my renown already so have decent paragons) but using your paragon board otherwise. It can be explosively good. I'll mix it up with the DoT malignant heart soon, it's just about gear drops at this point also.
And has anyone else noticed the named elites out in the open world aren't dropping their unique named items anymore, I've killed several dozens of times over this season with zero named unique drops, very disappointing.
Aoe thorns proc is always a crit or the barber aoe? Missed that part. Ran world tier 4 capstone at 55 and it was piss easy.
Thanks for the guide!
the barber aoe, thorns doesnt crit at all which is why we don't benefit, but with the 2 hearts we actually do (crit effects bleed damage and effects the aoe from barber)
@@KingGault Aah thanks for explaining that.
I love ya thorns builds and alway keep an eye out if ya posted any think new .I like to ask whatvis that transmog on ya helm been looking for it but can't find it
It’s the one you buy with red dust from the pvp vendor
Great video as always, I'm loving your thorns build and enjoying a lot more D4 because of it.
What build will you use once reaching lvl 100 ? The leveling one or the original one you posted before ? There are a few differences and I'd like to know why you would take one instead of the other.
I played a couole of thrin buikds in diablo 3 and iblove them. But I had some questions about some of your choices bc I'ma little confused. Why use double basic skills and why not emeralds in armor. For groups adds I feel like I'm doing well but the moment there's an enemy or two it takes 20 to 30 seconds to kill them. I'm currently lvl 65 and have over 3k thorns while berserking.
Thx a lot for you vidéo very usefull ❤, Can you details why Crit chance is not mandatory in your first build.
Again thx a lot for your work 👍
will you be doing the creeping death build planner with the changes to your standard thorns lvling build?
Hi Kgault. You are the best. Only finished tier 100 because of you. Is possible to get crit damage with Thorns. I cant proc it
Only with a lethal shrine, thorns doesn’t crit.
Butttttttt with these 2 hearts you absolutely now benefit from crit DMG, using the barber, and wanting crit chance and crit dmg for the bleed build, as it increases your bleed amount by the amount of crit damage that you have. Hope that helps :) Thorns as static damage still does not crit.
@@KingGault, tks a lot. You just got a subscriber. I am using your AoE Crit Build as you suggested. However, i am not getting the explosions. I copied your entire build. Am I missing something? Re. your bleed build, perhaps Challenging Shout is also a CC (taunt)?
I dropped my razor plate in exchange for rage of Harrogate, but I might switch back to push tier 60. I'm lvl 93.... running a sort of rend deathblow build involving skullcrusher. When I get to a boss I switch to edgmasters on my 2hander with skullcrushers, so my super fast cool down with death blow can to more. 3 rends followed by deathblow, wash rinse repeat. I am now keeping a couple items in my inventory that I can swap to for either clearing or bosses. I wish they could make this better.... cmon blizz
I wonder how much is this from the build itself or from the Barber absurdity. I'm currently doing a Flay/Rend build (no Barber) and it feels 'ok', fun to play, not bad, but it doesn't have this massive damage, last season I played HotA so I wanted something different.
The bleed build is actually what I used to almost down lillith before season started, but now with the heart it amplifies your damage tremendously.
@@KingGault Sure, I have no doubts the build works; I'm just saying that the heart is way too broken, so a lot of characters are basically exploding the mobs so fast that their builds almost doesn't matter. I'm hoping they fix the heart so that we can measure different builds, niche and performances in a way that makes more sense.
@kGAULT thanks for the guides .... using barber just did the capstone lvl70 with lvl 56 barb and watching the 70+ in torment wondering what i do there
OK, you seem to know something about thorns barbarian so I have some questions for you. It's hard to find them on the internet and I try to perform my own tests now, but maybe you already have all the answers. So:
1. Does the Aspect of Inner Calm increase thorns dmg?
2. Does the dmg to close enemies statistic increase thorns dmg?
3. Do enemies influenced by challanging shout count as crowd controlled?
4. Do thorns count as physical dmg? Can the dmg of thorns be increased by increasing physical dmg?
5. Is bleeding dmg increased by damage over time boosting effects?
I'd appreciate your opinion on these subjects.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes because taunt is CC
4. Yes thorns is physical damage here in diablo 4 as well as in diablo 3. Can easily be tested.
5. Yes, what else would boost it?
@@RagutosWorld Yeah, I performed some tests yesterday and today and it seems like thorns build is really able to get out of control. If you have aspect of inner calm and heavily stack dmg to close enemies+physical dmg the damage is amazing.
Also - "what else would boost it" - there is a simple bleed dmg bonus statistic. I wasn't sure if it's the only one that boosts bleed.
You can use butchers cleaver for slow / fear as well
I am confused about the Malignant Hearts, sorry for being a little off topic. Every season you have to create a new character? What happens to the Hearts? What is the point? What are the long term benefits to playing seasons vs. eternals?
Hearts go away at the end of the season and then the character is moved to the eternal server, where the rest of your characters are.
@@jasonmull3779 thank you bro.
Its pretty good ;) But I have one question is this build able to kill Uber Lilith?
You are mentioning at 0:50 that AOE proc of Needleflare is always critical... Have you considered Caged Heart of Tempting Fate as part of the build?
If Needleflare is always crit, this looks sick on paper.
he is referring to the aoe explosion of the barber always being a crit. You need the initial crit to happen to turn the barber on though. It isnt needleflare that is always crit.
@@kcb6927 but then what is it? what thing do initial crit ?
Hey
in the video you always have other stones inside the armor what should I use for orientation because in the link you have yellow stones in the weapons
Well here I am using Crit dmg to vuln enemies - this is because the 2 heart builds require crit dmg as it works on both hearts
curious what youre doing for crit damage on the barber varient. swords, and emeralds? or are you replacing damage to close stat??
Funny story, found 6 uniques in 2.5hr on my lvl 61 last night and none used for my thorns build LMAO. I did swap in the Battle Trance Ammy for the frenzy perks though.
Also, with all the CC’s you added, would the Butchers Cleaver be a natural fit? +Dam to CC/Crit Dam/Crit Chance Injured/Dam to injured along with Lucky chance to add 2 more CC…
I absolutely thought the same as butchers axe would add a fear CC + has crit dmg on it, you do miss the base crit dmg from it being an axe, but the extra CC is worth. My concern was fear in other games make mobs run away from out, and I didn't want that to happen as our dps is still concentrated mainly on thorns output
@@KingGault I agree on the fear part. If I’m being honest, I was hoping/thinking that between all the knock downs, chilled, stunned etc, they may be locked down enough that fear wouldn’t be a factor, and… if they did, rip them back with chains. Unfortunately, things tend to look and sound better on paper
@@KingGaultit Fears AND Slows so they don’t go very far, but to your point wouldn’t all this CC be anti thorns anyway? Can’t hit if they’re stunned or feared, or knocked down.
Which of the two varients would you consider "better" for hardcore and why? Or is there even a varient you did not mention of which you think would be suprerior in hardcore?
Do you have a build planner for these variants?
In general, I like the idea of a thorn build, so I switched to the leveling guide version (Level 52). But I greatly struggle with the spirits or ranged attackers...not to speak about sorcs in pvp. Any advice how to deal with those ?
Ripping aspect does currently not work. Btw should "Edgemaster" aspect not work for thorns? It says "skill damage". Might be amazing on the amulet.
berserk ripping is bugged AGAIN?
noob?, can I farm the razorplate in tier 3 nightmare dungeons, or do I need to wait for tier 4 nightmare dungeons?
ofc this vid comes after i vendored all my +crit dmg gear cus the other guide said crit dmg was useless xD
thanks for update tho
I feel ya, haven't been able to play as much as I did before the season so I'm slower on the updates... my bad boss :)
@@KingGault same, didnt even know the crit dmg heart existed and im 62.
How do you deal with high lvl vampiric elites? Takes ages to kill some, and some i cant kill.
Im running the Barber build, should I keep using 1h axes or are the 1h swords better for more crit?
can we get some footage of nightmare dung bosses? same tier is fine 32-36. i feel like hitting a brick wall with a pencil.
Not sure if it will help but I heavily invested in armor/weapons that boosts basic skill dmg. At level 67 (t4) it's +263%. That way I feel like I'm at least chipping a bit harder while melting big mobs. The only things that are annoying are destroyable objects that for some reason have a million hp.
@@ericberkelmans7954 thx for your insights, will try!
@kGAULT how to do initial crit for barber heart proc ?
LOL, how about a showcase on how fast your boss kills are or individual elite mobs
Would you add ancients oath?
I know thorns can't CRIT but does the aspect AOE CRIt from the Lego aspect?
Is there a build guide for 5hese now
With butchers cleaver you can get another cc (Fear). Problem is, they run away... so maybe not something to desire.
How do u farm gear with right stats? I assume it’s all random.
I just did a tier 100 with this build on season 1 ^^
I did it with razorplate on for a little more thorns cause you dont need that much dr
have you tried ignoring pain?
Do the hearts transfer when the season is over?
no
critdmg required in this build?
Flay or Frenzy better?
Is there any way of running this build without steel grasp though😢?
imo, for mulltipe reasons. no
@@xjidanx steel grasp just doesn't feel good to me. If anyth
The music was a nice touch. How does the build fare without wrathful hearts? I’m boycotting them for now. They’re too strong. At 75 my death blow is now at 3.98MM. It was at 1MM at 72 so I’ve scaled it well
Also, I did at42 this morning at 75 in 7m. I did die but it’s because I’m a glass canon with 148% movement speed lol
Thorns no longer triggers the barber as of 1.1.1
ohh boy, check out the video I just came out with :)
Bro im your big fan from malaysia , pls release the build guide my barb just 50lvl
and you lost all the damage reduction to move foward....
Love your guides. Been fun surprising people clearing NM 23s at lvl 60. Any advice on how to improve single target dps?
volume of the videos always wayyy too quiet, can never hear you..
What I like the most about your build is how tanky it is. You stand inside that exploding fire ball as if its nothing 😁
i now hope to run into the butcher, he's such a kitten now!
so can we still follow the old planner build ?
bro, the music is way loud compared to your voice
I literally never seen wrathful heart. How the fuck people get items I never seen in life... imagine I still didn't drop razorplate...
there are videos showing how to farm them. you can farm a few every hour using the dungeon reset method
Idk much about any of the hearts they mostly all seem pretty lame for the build IMO. The first one you showcase "barber" seems to be the most popular and completely messes up group play and changes your thorns rolls to where you have to stack crit which really changes rolls on gear you are looking for. Can drop things on like rings damage to close or w/e but still changes the gear. The second one I honestly don't understand at all. As a THORNS build almost any cc effect is terrible for the build. Everytime an enemey is stunned or dazed or knocked down or slowed they are not hitting you which is what your entire build relies on. Maybe the heart compensates for that but to me even certain spots in your video the enemies just completely stop taking damage because they are not hitting you.
Idk overall I really want to like thorns.... Feel like I am pretty decently geared in sacreds and level 62 and slaughtering WT3 content. However when I try to do anything on WT4 it feels pretty bad. Guy is extremely tanky and dying isn't really the problem but without razorplate my damage just does not feel great and anything on WT4 goes super slow. Havent gotten a single bold chieftans aspect to drop or needleflare so can't even upgrade the 40% to higher and feels prty bad. Without razorplate, faster shouts, and higher % to thorns aoe feels like a super slog. Some spots that are super dense aren't terrible and hopefully the density changes will help but all the ghosts suck for staying grouped and the gameplay of running through 4 screens and trying to herd mobs up on wt4 feels pretty bad too IMO.
Hope I am just missing something but atm doesn't feel great.
I ran the build perfectly well in world tier 4 without razorplate, you really need your gear to be on point with thorns rolls and damage reduction to really start feeling it, you do not need shorter shout cooldowns as they are really just a temporary buff. Run the build the old way kgault did, you absolutely need things like needleflare and death wish aspect to get it working well.
@@RagutosWorld have those aspects but just the lowest rolls. Adding back in flay helped but theres so many mobs that just back up or barely ever attack. If you cant get 10+ mobs grouped up literally on you and attacking in wt4 it takes forever to kill things cuz of the low thorns dmg by itself. Sometimes feels great but at least 50% time feels rly bad. Especially on bosses
@@goof1313 yeah don't run ghost dungeons or cultist mages. And yeah but still get gear on point, like good thorns rolls.
@@RagutosWorld cept all of his gear dont have thorns rolls at all lol
@@goof1313 You're not 100. He is.
content is good, music was absolutely questionable in 2023
Ive more damage with my barbarian lvl 60 😅😅