Biggest, Oldest, Smartest, and Strongest Dragons Comparison
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Dragons may be found in a wide variety of forms and sizes, and in this video, we will examine four of these enormous monsters and compare them in terms of their body length, wingspan, intelligence, and powers. Smaug from Middle Earth, Balerion the Black Dread from A Song of Ice and Fire, Themberchaud from Dungeons and Dragons, and The Red Death from How to Train Your Dragon are the characters who have been submitted for consideration in this section.
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Too many people whine about Smaug and the Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon dragons being wyverns instead of European dragons. All wyverns are dragons. Not all dragons are wyverns. There are also wyrms, coatls, lungs, drakes, etc. People need to stop trying to gatekeep what defines a dragon. Dragons don’t have to have four legs and two wings. Great video. I love when accurate scientific measurements are made for these massive legends.
The funny thing is, that in Game of Thrones/ASOIAF, wyverns exist but are NOT considered dragons.
I know drake has a dragon in his pants but didn't know he was a dragon himself
@@almondsai7214 But the Wyverns in Game of Thrones are more bird like, smaller and have beaks.
Its also funny because in the story "St George vs The Dragon" the Dragon is basically depicted as a Wyvern in all the old arts and even some variations of the story. So these people who made up in their head that Wyverns and Dragons are different entities are probably just following the made up rules of some DnD books or some shit.
@@Jambleprobably meaning that by saying that you yourself may very well also be full of shit
I would bet on Smaug here, he is far more intelligent than the others listed here.
Intellect that’s it,still prone to the same disadvantages especially against an aggressive dragon.
He is able to talk which isn’t intelligence its how he is built, got dragons are apparently more intelligent than their riders but they dont speak because there body isn’t made for that.
Some dragons may be smart big and dangerous but others are massive instinctive and brutal
(I do say it is a close fight but Smoug really needs to watch out for that tail)
@@Godzilla30125 it aint a close fight woth smaug and balerion, balerion is nearly twice as large his flames melt stone and are so hot they are black and bro defeated an army of 100k with his rider aegon and his sisters. Balerion is stronger in build as smaug is more serpentine like this would give smaug the agility but as seen in got that doesnt do anything when ur eaten and smaug has a weak link and can be killed by a very small ballista but balerion cant hence why he was able to take the largest fortress in westeros alone
i would honestly bet on themberchaud. He managed to survive and escape the Druhegar greatest stronghold, despite several attempt to replace him. Despite his weigth he is as all red draons are, a terrificly cunning creature who managed to escape despite his obvious physical prowess. He even managed to find a patron in the Creeping doom,AKA the strongest dragon/undead/Champion of the goddess of magic.
Also as a red Dragon, he would have a plethera of inates spells that he could use to Trick the. other dragons. Also He is likely over 600 years of age at this time since D&D dragons live really Long.
Nobody talks about how heavy these dragons are in canon only how long it tall they are. The red death canonically only 10 tons!
That’s cap. The Scauldron was stated to be 20 tons, the Shellfire was 50k tons, and with the Red Death being a bit larger then the Shellfire, I’d say she weighs around 60-70k tons.
Well the weight system of Viking in the verse is weighed in sheep. (From what we have seen so far) and they listed the BewilderBeast to be somewhere around what he previous guy stated the Red Death to be.
@@T-REX-KNIGHT it’s a nonsense comparison anyway, if you take physics into account, the Red Death wouldn’t be able to fly
Its clearly not right because it says she is 22,000 pounds or 10 tons when that is 11 tons but that wouldn't be right either.
@@deadman9335 whoever wrote canon weight of the dragons of that franchise is on something lol
Ancalagon would wipe the floor with all other participants.
yup, destroyed a fortress which the gods could not by falling on it
And ancalagon would be less than a snack for super shenron
More likely he wouldn't even nottice the others were there let alone treading on them
AnImE dragon lol@@nuhscott9058
If it was a fight of any kind Smaug would take it every time. Because he’s simply a cute above the rest. He’d probably end up as the pack leader.
You didn't take into account that as a DnD Red Dragon, Themberchaud is completely immune to fire. The other dragons are still shown to be situationally hurt by extreme heat or fire, but he can't be hurt by fire at all, meaning the breath weapons of the others are useless against him. I'm not sure if he'd be able to win in pure melee, but at the very least fire is a weapon he'd have that the others wouldn't.
Doesn’t the red death bathe in magma?
@@Toxin_E-07 Yes, but it's pointed out in the movies that the dragons are only fireproof on the outside, that's how Hiccup and Toothless defeat the red death. Themberchaud is fully immune, inside and out he cannot be harmed by fire or heat. That's why I said the other dragons can be situationally hurt by fire or heat, because they all are.
@@lizziec9617 That’s fair.
He gets whiped in melee
@@TheBestAlien I definitely agree, I was just pointing out a power/ability that the video left out.
Nah Smaug would destroy them all ngl.
He is extremely intelligent and would be able to see that the Red Death used gas to fire its breaths and Smaug would outmaneuver it and blow it up the same way toothless did, if it gets hold of Smaug though he's dead so that's a med-high diff win for Smaug.
As for Balerion... at his biggest he could barely fly so Smaug and the Red Death would absolutely obliterate him even if you use Balerions maximum size estimate all they have to do is outmaneuver Balerion which being that he can barely fly would be easy then they attack his wings and he falls to his death... Balerion is neg-low diffed by these 2.
Should have used Vhagar she has the most kills of any Dragon in the GoT universe meaning Vhagar is the most experienced and battle hardened dragon we see in the series and she doesn't struggle to fly so she'd probably destroy a barely airborne Balerion in a Dragon dance.
Wheres ancalagon the black
Thats unfair
😂 agenst Godzilla and Ghidorah but clearly weaker then both, he's bigger than both, but weaker
@@D-MaleKing He fought against gods, ancalagon the Black would destroy any MV titan.
@@danielvanommeren3968probably talking about comic Godzilla not mv
@@7reasons617 fair, but when I say Godzilla 99% of the world would assume MV Godzilla
Toothless enters the arena: I beat you, *points to the red death.* who beats you, *points to Balareion.* who beats you guys. *points to the other two.* so I dominate everyone!
Smaug: "And your intelligence?"
Dragon is supposedly the reincarnation of Balerion and is a genius, he survived literally everything at all costs, and knew how he could bring back his mom. He definitely deserves more credit in my opinion. (Unless its book Drogon/Balerion then he's just a weird looking dog)
To be honest, Smaug may have had human level intelligence but he was a cocky brat that thought he was invincible.
Either way, this is still a great video!
I like dragons, and I saw it on Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real.
I would bet on the red death, battle xp and she I'd pretty durable
Smaug died to an arrow...
A Black Arrow, those Arrows are pretty powerful.
Do you have any idea how powerful the black arrow is?
Take it into account that GRRM said himself that all Targaryen dragons are smaller than Smaug. Or something like that. Not sure how he saud that, all Targaryen dragons, all of his dragons, all dragons from the ice and fire era/later.... Sure you know
Those who forgot the Dragon from Showa Era that even made Godzilla Earth look like a puppy ☠️💀
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Disappointed that Vermithrax Perjorative and the Reign of Fire Bull didn't make the comparison list
At minute 3:13 you refer to the response of one of the HotD showrunners in a video about Vhagar's size, in which she comments on its size being "150m long", however, I believe this was a confusion from her, because as many also put in the comments of this video, in fact 150m refers to the dragon's wingspan, in an interview, Sven Martin, the effects supervisor for the series, makes this very clear, attesting to both the size of the dragon and its wingspan:
"In 2021, Sven Martin explained the visual effects work made by Pixomondo on Without Remorse. He then worked on Help, I Shrunk My Friends and Upload. Today he tells us about his return to Westeros for the series House of the Dragon.
'Some of the dragons are really big, how does that affect your work?
Some of the aspects I have mentioned already. The short answer is: large in frame - more detail. It’s most difficult to deal with large scales during pre-production, when you don’t have the plates yet and nothing real to compare against. Vhagar is supposed to be 90 meters long with a wingspan of 150 meters, so we added a digital double of Aemond to our turntables to get visually reminded about the scale of the dragons.'."
Therefore I believe that your original estimates regarding the size of Vhagar and consequently, Balerion, are closer to the truth.
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With this information, I don't believe size is an advantage for Balerion in a fight against Smaug, as Tolkien's dragon appears to be larger:
From the One Wiki to Rule Them All website:
"Smaug's actual size is unknown as it is never explicitly mentioned in The Hobbit, and illustrations by Tolkien, Alan Lee, and John Howe greatly vary in size in each portrait while the size of the Front Gate of the Dwarven kingdom in illustrations seems similar to what was depicted in the live action films. In The Atlas of Middle-earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad, Smaug is said to be about 18 meters (59 feet) in length, but this is to be considered non-canonical. Other sources, for the film, name Smaug as being 130 meters (427 ft) in length, which is greater than two jumbo jets."
"Tolkien gives some indication later of the dragon's size in relation to the depiction of Bilbo as portrayed in the original illustration for The Hobbit in Letter 27, which was published in The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien:
‘The hobbit in the picture of the gold-hoard, Chapter XII, is of course (apart from being fat in the wrong places) enormously too large. But (as my children, at any rate, understand) he is really in a separate picture or “plane” - being invisible to the dragon.’"
"One of few other descriptions available by Tolkien is that the hidden passage, with 5 feet tall door and passage wide enough for three people to walk together, was too small for the dragon even when he was young, and he considered it a 'tiny hole which he should have sealed up' and could only put the tip of his jaw into the passage when he was grown and breathed out fire and vapor not from his jaw but from his nostrils instead. Additionally, the Black Arrow launched by Bard completely disappeared into the dragon's body, and the corpse of Smaug severely destroyed Lake-town when it fell. These, along with descriptions of dragons by Tolkien to possess elongated, serpentine bodies, indicate that Smaug in book could have been much larger than the above mentioned estimation by Karen Wynn Fonstad."
"In the film adaptations, Smaug dramatically increased in size. In the comments of 'Made in the Makings', his size is mentioned to be 'bigger than two jumbo jets' or 'twice as long as and twice as wide as Boeing 747'. In pre-publishing comments by Joe Letteri, the Oscar winning VFX supervisor from Wētā Digital, Smaug was said to be 'twice as big as a Boeing 747', indicating each wing could be more than 60 to 70 meters in width. These indicate that Smaug in the movies ranged from 130 to 152 meters in length and from 120 to more than 140 meters in width."
It is also important to highlight that at the end of his life and at the height of his size, Balerion had some disadvantages:
"When Princess Alyssa Targaryen came to the Dragonpit to claim a dragon of her own in 75 AC, the Dragonkeepers persuaded her not to try and claim Balerion, insisting that the dragon had become old and slow, suggesting to her that she would much more prefer a faster dragon.
The last rider of Balerion was Prince Viserys Targaryen, who entered the Dragonpit to claim the dragon in 93 AC. Balerion was hard to rouse, and struggled when Viserys urged him into the sky. They flew around King's Landing three times, although Viserys later confided to his father that he had originally intended to fly Balerion to Dragonstone. However, fearing the dragon lacked the strength to do so, Viserys had opted otherwise."
"By 93 AC, Balerion had finally stopped growing. He had grown sluggish and heavy and was difficult to rouse. When Prince Viserys Targaryen claimed the dragon that year, the dragon struggled to take to the air. Prince Viserys believed the dragon no longer had the strength to fly from King's Landing to Dragonstone"
In the case of Smaug, after 171 years he was in Erebor, the dragon was at the peak of his form and power, even though he was probably older than Balerion.
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Oh God, how I wish Smaug's original concept art at 0:38 had been kept for the film, all the more imposing, glorious and close to Tolkien's original vision and like a classic European dragon, like in Dungeon & Dragons as well.
a "classic" european dragon is a bit of an oxymoron as a lot of Dragons depicted in West European folktales are often drawn in early art as Wyverns with 4 limbs. If you google St George and the Dragon, you'll see all the medieval art of St George on a horse fighting a horse sized Wyvern.
150 m of wingspam for Vaghar... Not length...
Smaug like all dragons from Tolkin lore was hyper-intelligent. Could speak and corrupt the minds of those around them.
Red can 1v3 this dragon H.T.Y.D is unique classes of dragons and you forgot to mention Red have that mind control even balerion is big he have a animalistic mind it can fall for that alpha call and smaug fire breath isn't special Red in the other hand have a very fireproof skin she literally bathing in lava and we see smaug got hurt from the Molten gold trap. Red can one shot everyone here if she cath on bite.
They always seem to leave one dragon out that saw shown first by Disney in 1980... "Vermithrax Pejorative" from The Dragonslayer (at least it was my fav. dragon 👍)
So bewildered beast isn't a dragon? or some sort of
that was a good video and i think smaug and red death are about equals then the other 2 dragons so if red death or smaug were at a battle against each other to the death then i would say red death would win the fight against smaug she has a tail of a hammer that could break a neck of a dragon at the same size as her for a second so keep up the work and do a battle for all the dragons
nobody is touching the black dread in his prime
lmao! GRR himself said he is equal to Smaug. Well dont ride it hard, its a dragon, not a saucy hot dog
@@Ugandan_Marinesdidn't he say smaug is bigger ?
@@leventedevai1676 bigger than Drogon but he said Smaug and Belarion are equal in term of size
@@Ugandan_Marines he didn't say they are equal lol. he said that balerion could make Smaug work for his win, but he'd win nontheless. Smaug is far smarter and when balerion reached his biggest size he was very far from his prime. Smaug is gonna clean the floor with Balerion's intestines lol
@@salva2387 He said “Basically, no. Drogon is a very young dragon and still barely large enough to get Dany into the sky… Smaug is gigantic, not to mention that Smaug talks and would probably have an intellectual advantage. But Balerion could give Smaug some trouble; they’re more equivalent in the size and ferocity department.” Check the video. Stop riding hard, its a fictional dragon not the soucy hot dog
Alduin full stop.
Themberchaud is actually quite a bit weaker in pretty much every state then average for a red dragon of his age category is a CR 13 where most red dragons are on average a cr 17 so very much below average in power and also adult dragons are much smaller then older dragons in dnd
Ghidorah??
Alien not a dragon
@@raidenthememer4360 it's still a dragon tho
Where is mahoraga?
Is he a dragon
MAHORAGA, HELLP!
Who?
He ain't a dragon
Smaug and Themberchaud are my favorite dragons in movies, they’re so wonderful.
It's no longer Themberchaud. It's Thunderchode.
Ghidorah smacks, yea I’m a kaiju freak but literally KOTM ghidorah shows the most intelligence and is easily the oldest and of course strongest
Doragon
Sigma
Smaug was only a wyvern in the stupid film. Tolkien always portrayed him as a true dragon with four legs and two wings.
Should have done bewilderbeast
Bewilderbeast would get melted. It isn’t a beast of warfare that can incinerate entire villages…
unless your talking about drago’s
@@hime8091 yes but it’s ice can cause a lot of damage and it has giant tusks like and elephant it could still do damage
I am insulted(not really) that Fatilis was featured here
Me:THEMBERCAUD > ( edit:this is a joke dont turn me to like begger )
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Bro yes!!!!
Void ghidorah solos all dragons 😂
He's a deity not a dragon
Themberchaud is a Joke