Gravitas | Orania: A 'whites-only' town in South Africa
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2022
- A 'whites-only' town in South Africa is making headlines. Black people cannot live & work in this town, every job is reserved for white people. The residents of the town insist their actions are not racist. Palki Sharma brings you the story of Orania..
#Gravitas #Orania #SouthAfrica
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As a South African black person. I respect Orania! They’re taking care of themselves and building up their own township. Why can’t us black and coloured people build up our areas apart from government? Look at SA now. It’s struggling under ANC! We always blaming whites but when do we take responsibility and build up our country. These people don’t even have load shedding anymore and we still blaming them. Are we stupid?
Ok so for example will the brits or other europeans agree if any minority group there demands a separate republic?
White people👎
Thank you for speaking the truth.
We are our own problems and we are the only solutions
I thought nigerian are the problem when y'all black south African killing them
Honestly speaking every country right now has challenges, even China has struggling people. Maybe the biggest problem SA has is crime and corruption but that doesn't justify places like Orania because there are already places that are predominantly white and they have less crime than townships because they already have security. The question is why whites only? Its like they are saying all black people are criminals or a problem. Will Europe tolerate something like that in their countries?
Tbh. Most of South Africa don't care about Orania and what goes on. We're just trying to live and survive.
Do you allow your boys and girls marry outside Orania,more especially black pple?.
WION keep it up .
Yeah lol
Joke of the year!
Would you treat the Amish people the same way?
Probably the safest town in Africa
You are clearly not from Africa so shut it
Doubt it
Your full of shit
Not probably.
i know people from there and honestly they are the most peaceful people. they did this due to how unsafe whites are in south africa. i dont blame them.
Honestly if a group of people regardless of their skin colour want to create an isolated community just for them I don’t see why the rest of us should have a problem with it
They're in someone else's country, are you Africans slow, I bet Africans from another country couldn't do what these Dutch are doing without backlash from South Africans.
Not colour but race, Indians or Asians can't visit the town
Let them return to their country of origin instead of sabotaging countries
the problem is not allowing others into their community. No Western country will allow other races to set up this type of system with their country.
@@NanabanyinJackson it’s not your community so it’s not your problem. Learn to mind your own business
As a Black person in the U.S. who appreciates the history of many "Negro" townships in the U.S. at one time that was completely self sufficient, and according to the constitution of South Africa of self determination there can be an exclusive Black township as well. I see no reason why Black people of means in South Africa can't do the same.
They are!! In every black township, former predominantly white city and town
Black people couldn't get this right. We have huge areas where only black people live. They are so undeveloped it's scary.
You must be really asleep.
There's many of them in SA, called townships
@#endtimesarenear They can start anything...but that's as far as it will go
It will only amount to chaos
I'm black, and their is no racism here....just people who want to be independent and follow their culture and belief.
the United States needs to be a whites-only country!
Your not black stop lying
@@1hakim huh you caught me, I'm actually Green.
@@libansamaraweera2939
I'm white and stand with you.
Maintaing your own identity and ensuring your community is kept homogeneous in terms of your own people, is fine....if you're indigenous. But they're not. They can maintain their identity on their ancestral lands or they can practice what they like but to purposely exclude POC on lands that aren't theirs, is barbaric and colonialism at its finest.
Just to be clear, the town is privately owned, so the owners have rules and regulations that if you want to live there you have to follow. Theres even a waiting list if you wanna buy a house there. Again the town is privately owned and is approved by the government
Sounds like a safe town where no crimes are committed.
Why are they trying to get to the US if it is so good. Why are they complaining and living in fear? Why are they lying to the world about being attacked by black African people? These people are 100% racist.
This is another Isr@el/G@za situation waiting to happen. South Africa must nip it in the bud.
Sounds like a town full of serial killers
Sounds like with bunch of children's of criminals
But rape and abuse
When I sat down to think about racism, I realized that it is very natural to prefer to be with people who look like you, talk like you and live like you. It gives a sense of belonging to the people with similarities to bond and even start new families. But, what that doesn't entail is that they start feeling superior and deprive other of their own resources
It's a town of only 2000 people. Shame that people feel so threatened by this small and peaceful community.
They're pretty self sufficient and don't rely much on State handouts. They're not depriving anyone.
@@rockrabbit253 no one feels hreatend,or at least i dont feel that way. however, these are so called christians. what does your christian god teach you? whats your purpose as christians on this earth??? please refer to your Bible before you answer me, i need scriptures.
@@rockrabbit253 your racist... love is love, they dont accept or allow others in as if they own a part of the world to do that. They are the ones feeling threatened to segregate themself like that... what is there reasoning..... Tulsa
@@rockrabbit253 Their ancestors deprived a lot by colonisation/invasion from the indigenous people. They will have to pay the consequences sooner or later. That's history.
Not their country! You can't tell native people where they can go or cannot go! Want an uninvited guest to take over your home?
I live 30 kms from Orania. This is simply NOT true. I have worked in Orania over the last couple of years, eaten in the restaurants, stayed in the resort, enjoyed the company of the local residents. They have never made me feel second rate. I am a person of colour.
I used to trust WION's reports from around the globe, but this has made me think about the trust-worthiness of the reporting.
WION lied a bunch about Canada too in numerous ways.
And they white-lied about Ukraine, trying to smear them, as a way to defend India's non-participation as it watches a non-competent version of Nazism enact a genocide (Putin's Russia trying to genocide its neighbor).
I'm so very happy to hear this. God bless you and thank you for your comment, giving us a better idea of the truth.
Lies u can't enter that place
Lol! Wion did a big u-turn about Russia no one questions that..
Indians love playing the "we were made poor by white people card"
Bet its crime free,safe and peaceful too.
there is no crime in Russia because they are all white😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Nazi Germany had such a plan. How did that work out again?
@looleas you should go be his butt buddy.
@@LarsWalker-xo2jn 🤣🤣🤣
It’s a town of 3,000 people in the middle of nowhere. Leave them alone.
That's antisemitism
America started like that and now the majority of them are yt. I think in the future they would expand their town to build cities and etc and the south africa will have only yt people. To be fair, the blks there aren't native to south africa so it won't matter if they became a minority lol.
@@MixedChick1 whites are 42 percent of the usa. Lmaoo
@@Normal_macdonald hell yeah brother
@@MixedChick1 america hasn't had a human majority since 1965
Looking at the state of the rest of the country, I don't blame the people of Orania for wanting to be left alone
Your confusing them with the Amish
I don't think you can absolve the white British & Afrikaaner colonisers for the condition that South Africa is currently in. If all the colonisers were noble & civilised people, then the colonised in every country would be richer than the colonisers and there would have been no need for the colonised people to liberate themselves from their colonisers.
What I find objectionable about this town is that the colonisers who are racially non-native and responsible for centuries of discrimination against the native races are still being allowed to perpetuate the same discrimination as they did in the past- in both cases, it is ostensibly to promote their own racial identity and culture at the expense of others. Colonialism has clearly not ended in South Africa.
@@MaTara01 And the Islamic Turkic people who violently with much bloodshed conquered Byzantium/Turkey from the white, middle eastern Christians & now rule it. Must they & their mixed race descendants now return to Mongolia ! History happens. Stop being a helpless victim.
Yeah, you accepted the apology and let them keep everything else.
It’s the algorithm viewers… so many comments with such racist ideals with the wyt person as the victim/civilized/innocent… with so much likes…. Repetitive these pigs are walking demons with no soul
This community realized 30 years ago that the country is bound to collapse under an ANC government, and set themselves up in their own council structures. That collapse has now taken place. The ANC has broken everything in South Africa they could lay their hands on, but Orania is unaffected.
Still, they are racists .
Correct, it was also never a race based community but a language and culture enclave. There are people of all races there. This is just propagandist reporting spewing hate and divisive rhetoric. Tools.
They should have went back to Europe, where they belong.
Why not go back to europe?
Come on, where is the downfall of South Africa? You guys like to exaggerate everything ao. Mxm
This report is false, orania should be used as an example on how a good governante should be...
shut up dude
Let me guess. The ANC should be?
@@dannyarcher6370all governments need to make notes
If only a blacks only community was highly successful then we could portray them as they have this community
They are too busy claiming to be victims
Blacks only - can never be successful - anything these people touch turns to Sh1t.
Wow, that's racist.
@@lipialam3599 you're too busy being profoundly ignorant and unbelievably SSTTOOPPIIDD
@@pogboi6032instead of a moniker how about an example of me being wrong
Im a black south African and proudly so,but with all the corruption and crime in this country,I am happy there's a place where children are safe in the streets....we live in a sub, fencing and guards,yet we still never safe.leave these people alone, racists or not!
,u have many issues of your own to deal with.
This is a white person.
Children safe? All children or just white?
Are you sober my guy. Who's children are safe?
@@matanamelech3123 The precious white children. Black Africans are programmed to love the white man more than they love themselves. As they sit with no electricity and running water. They cheer the white man's family living in harmony in the motherland. Thank god I was born in America.
non so blind as those who would not see.yes they are all white,and something right came out of it, the difference between their "world" and ours is clear,admit it or not,I dont care!
People always talk about diversity is a strength, but without unity it can create problems.
This group is like minded, with shared history and culture. This gives them unity.
With all the tensions in South Africa, crime, revenge racism, I’m not surprised that such communities develop and gain traction
diversity is the codeword for white genocide
They call themselves African and want to retain their African identity but don’t want to live with any actual Africans. The irony
Why don’t they go back to Europe
@CG explain why America is the world most powerful country on earth and country that are 90 percent white in Europe are not
@CG exactly having more immigrants mean more population. Big population equal more power
Leave Orania and it's people alone. We as black South Africa don't have a problem with its existence.
You should because its racist
@@LionHeart_. no. you are racist.
Yes we do you big they have to go back to Europe
@@LionHeart_.Nothing wrong with trying not to mix with others ,rather everything that isn't in your favor is racist
@@lipialam3599 As soon as an area is known & identified as a, "no blacks area", that alone is 100% racism. Racism has no place in our present day & anyone who preaches, supports, instigates & practices racism should be imprisoned & locked up with people of different skin colour to them👍🏼
"To retain ones identity is not a racism"
Exactly i agree 💯
A nationality does not and should not have one skin colour as its identity. Culture can remain whilst welcoming ppl different from yourself
Can a White Ukrainian, that fluently converses in Afrikaans and is committed to the Afrikaans culture be granted entry? Now, can a Black Jamaican that fluently converses in Afrikaans and is committed to the Afrikaans culture be granted entry? If the answers are different, why?
@@darelet Exactly! 💯🙌
@@tiawykes7312bro why must blacks force themselves to be amongst white? They don’t want y’all accept it. Black have nothing to be proud of so they want to go to better places and be accept. Let accept & love our people
Blacks should create a blacks only town.
One of the most astonishing things is how small it is yet how self reliant it is. Having a currency that operates well is impressive as well
Just White people things.
It. Would be more impressive in the Netherlands
Go back Europe
if it is pegged to some other currency, there is nothing impressive about it.
@@ThePirat2011 Well, yes, one can peg it to anything, but that effort is useless if there's not monetary discipline (no forgeries, no overprinting without coverage...)
When they first started this town I thought they were insane. Now I see something that the rest of us could not see at the time. The ANC was going to ruin the country.
How boer
It is only the ANC that can tolerate something like this the next government will not allow this nonsense.
True!!!!
When are we going to talk about the Ultra Racist Caste system in India, the racism all over Asia - areas like "Chinese only", "Japanese only", "Korean only" etc etc... India is the center of human abuse and despotism, racism and segregation of the worst kind, and this thing found one exception on the whole planet is going like oh look it's the White people... it's getting really freaking disgusting at this point lol
Agreed. It seems all cultures have the right to preserve themselves, except Afrikaans. It is in itself racist.
The majority black cultures in South Africa fail to realize how much their shit stinks, even more than that of Afrikaans. They even fail to fully recognize the Khoisan, the actual original culture in South Africa. Heck, the Dutch were in South Africa before the bantus. And funny enough, the Khoisan gets most of their support from Afrikaners. Hence, most of them speak Afrikaans fluently.
Black people tried that in America, and they burned it and 💣 it.
That’s messed up
MOVE wasn't black-only, whites could join MOVE?? They weren't banned 💀
Tried what exactly?
@@pogboi6032All black towns for economic development. Google Black Wallstreet in Oklahoma and see what happened to it
tried? blacks are the one that got mad for whites not living with blacks
Can you blame them?
Yes
Before, I used to. Now, I don't. If you white people don't want to be around brown people like me because of your biases and social conditioning, then so be it! I don't be around people who don't want me in their neighborhood.
Indeed
Holy racism
I'm an Indian born and living in South Africa, these people merely carved a way out for themselves. We are suffering under the rule of the ANC. The ANC have completely destroyed our country.
Nonsense no way an Indian can claim ownership to be real Africa you will die wasteful if you don't pack your bags and go back New Delhi India where you belongs to , thunder will fire all of you who thinks that we Africans are fools
Do you really realize who South Africa belong to?
@@blissedhighlyfavored9879 South Africa belongs to God, we are merely the people that live here. The sense of entitlement has to stop.
@@tsek5616 Your sense of entitlement needs to STOP! THEIVES... .
@@tsek5616 APARTHEID THEIVES........ That's exactly what you all are.
Im gonna come to another country, and then try to "preserve," my culture
They have been there for hundreds of year. The Africans who live there are new arrivals.
They were born there
@@Twilight24682 they can go get born elsewhere
@@sanepillow59
You don't choose where you are born
the town is cleaner and looked after better then any town in south africa
The town is on private property and is mostly off-grid. The town is built to keep their culture intact amidst a country where crime is rife and the infrastructures are collapsing due to corruption and incompetence. In contrast Orania has hardly any crime whatsoever and the town is progressing unbelievably well. Every job there is done by the inhabitants. As a white Afrikaaner even I won't really fit in there as I've lost too much of my culture while living overseas.
Black people are welcome to do the same, but that's unlikely as they have many, many black townships which look like slums as no maintenance is ever done, it's a cultural thing.
Yeah, it's like an Indian reservation in America. But its for white people and white people's culture. Whats wrong with that? If Indians can have theirs, whites can have theirs.
LoL.....blacks want work
Africa is a Black continent, whether you like them or not you are living in their continent.
@@karoslif9818 europe is a white contintent. IF you live there you have no right sto it
It’s in Africa. You can have your white society in Europe.
looks like a good community,not harming anyone
Seems like paradise
They should take it to Europe were they are from
@@albah289 They are from Africa, not Europe, they are Africans, and the State has recognized their right to self determination.
@@albah289 People like you are really intolerable .
@@albah289By that logic, all non-whites in Europe need to go back to their homelands, immediately.
As a brown man and Christian, I pray for this community and its growth. Forget what the world thinks. They wouldn't live in Africa or even South Africa. Their opinions don't matter.
sounds like paradise
Doesn't it just..i dont dream about being rich anymore i just dream being free to have a culture without being a victim of the racist mob
I saw a UA-cam special on this town a year or so ago and they seem to have a pretty good community with virtually no crime, full employment and a feeling of safety that is missing in much of the rest of the country. The focus seems to be preserving their language and culture rather than just excluding Blacks and Whites descended from English settlers. I don't think this would be legal in the US, but since it is legal in SA and they don't seem to be hurting anyone, hopefully everyone will leave them alone.
Western colonialism is the most EXTREME EVIL ever commited in history of humanity, and this wants to pay homage to that treasure white male history
Sounds like paradise, low crime rate
To clarify, Orania is property privately owned by a trust. Residents apply for tenure. Not being able to live on someone else's property is not a violation of rights, that is how property ownership works?
As far as I know anyone is welcome to visit the town, regardless of race, religion etc.
@@whawojedo I am in the US and in my home city, a Black developer opened a subdivision that was restricted to Blacks. He was taken to court when a non-Black tried to purchase a home that was listed for sale, and the courts indicated that if a property is listed for sale or for rent, it must go to a qualified buyer/renter, regardless of their race / ethnic background / religion / etc. SA is not the US, so I wasn't sure how the matter was handled there.
@@stephanledford9792 I don't stay in Orania but have a rough idea of how tenure works in South Africa.
Over here farm workers automatically get tenure when they've worked on a farm for more than 10 years. Farm owners can also grant tenure if they so wish. The workers then get the right to stay on the farm and that right cannot be taken away until they pass away. However, they never own any of the farm, they can't build or break without getting permission from the owner, and they also can't house anyone other than themselves without permission. They have rights similar to someone renting a property.
When a farmer grants tenure voluntarily, he can't be taken to task at all for his decisions on who does or doesn't get it. The property is his and he can do as he wishes.
As far as I understand, Orania works on the same principle.
Maybe you should do a report on Broadbased black economic empowerment and show the world how apartheid is still alive and kicking. It has just been reversed!!!
Vertel die " cane cutter" 👍🤝
Maybe they can do this in Holland where they came from.
@@spillaking Phone the Boss man Jesús....and ask him...Why He let those whities be born there?
@@andreoosthuizen7028 who do you refer to as cane cutter
When people act stupid they are treated as stupid...it's not apartheid
I see nothing wrong with this. A private club can decide who joins, a company can decide who works for them, why can't a group of people band together and decide who lives near them?
Someone will always find a reason to be upset. I see nothing wrong with this wether white, black or asian people do it, muslim or christians or hindus. Everyone should be free to make their own decisions.
Clubs and companies cannot deny service based on skin color in any developed country
@@deathbyunicorn5213 i'm not talking about offering service. I'm talking about letting people join. Two different things.
@@Georgesspierre They also cannot do that in any developed country, because it is undeniably racist.
@@deathbyunicorn5213 i bet your white
There is nothing wrong with it. Society at large has been brainwashed. Next thing you know having your own race/culture in your own home will be considered "racist".
When you go to your neighbors.. doors open, shopping .. You take goods and pay at the counter.. no casher and store’s door open 24 hours.. Those guys did for themselves a dream come true live.. What is it about the rest of the country.. South Africa.. ? You wanna live safe, no chance , to much crime.. 🇱🇹🇺🇸👋 I ‘ll visit the town of Orania.. God bless them!
In the US we’ve had to always have bullet proof glass and bars on the outside of shops.
But only in certain areas.
Only 2 questions:
Is this town succesful?
If yes, why isn't there a black copy?
Most towns in South Africa are homogenous
Very successful. Not crime. People leave doors open at night
No poor either
Very successful
@@carels5158 this is exactly what I thought.
As a a South African, I wish I lived isolated from our crooked government
Then why are you still living in south Africa, go back to Europe
I'm sure most citizens of this world wished they lived isolated from their crooked governments, but that doesn't mean they have to go and create their own town/state (at least not in this day and age). Better to kick out your government with your vote in democratic elections or a majority citizens uprising.
guess that and there are no crimes :D
You dony like crime, you are white :D
the United States needs to be a whites-only country!
After what BLM did the all of our cities can you blame them people just want to live in peace
This town has been in existence for decades.. It by far precedes BLM
Name something BLM did to all of the cities and I'll name something the republicans cult neo-nazi alt-right terrorists did to the Capitol! So keep your racist knee off my neck and you can live wherever the h**l you want!
Garbage. This has been occurring since they stepped foot in South Africa
@Joe mamma you make me happy , yes please stay on your side .
@@D1Snr civilized people set foot on African soil , why would they wanted to mix with savages , study Africa's history before you make a fool out of yourself again .
It's working perfectly... no murders, no crime, absolutely self sustainable. They don't bother anyone. It's the most successful town in our country
It does work but only because the government allows it!! If a group of black Africans built a gated city with armed guards and said no one can enter unless black the government would say no. The government in Sa and the people have a jesus complex with white people so they allow them to do what they want.
Stellenbosch works really well and they are open
No corruption, a breath of fresh air
That's true of most small towns ,almost anywhere in the world...you don't need a primitive racist mind-set to have that
@@DJ-jd9qf BS...race is certainly a factor...so are u gullible enough to believe that throwing 30 black african males into that community will not amount to some form of crime committed? as most people know all thru europe and U.S and canada and australia and New zealand and england multiculturalism has never worked but only created more issues and divisions
Hell yeah. Probably safest place in africa
No crime and clean. Bring diversity into that town, within a week there will be murders and looting and people crying racist!!! Confrontational Energy. Oil and water cannot mix. Segregation is the future.
@@darryllyle3528 You can do segregation in your own continent called Europe.
Probably you are from the US, and you think Africa is a country.
You cant had much crime with population only 3000
No shit. It's the smallest village in Africa
The remote town is showing the way how a country must function corruption free, education for all , independent institutions and bring order in the society.
And don't hire foreign workers.
The People of Orania live their life and they inspire me as a black South African. I'm saying this coz we as black South Africans are losing our cultures just to fit in and the government system has got us with balls.
Except there's no black only town in Ireland or Switzerland
@@gloriasarah9653 ireland 2040
Many like you in SA are brainwashed and have suffered from years of apartheid to the extent you have developed self-hate… I’m actually not surprised to hear this view from someone like you. Instead of addressing your issues you have developed a phobia for foreigners… I bet you also feel you’re losing your culture to other African immigrants right…? Tell me I’m wrong…
you're absolutely right.
@@dalenemcintyre2567 ppl can follow their culture until it doesn't exploit others
Orania has no crime, 100% employment, high levels of education and health care. Go figure.
If you were wealthy from apartheid you can afford all of that... yes including no crime
@@afro_giraffe These are all just ordinary folks looking for a safe environment for them & their kids. Not one Bill Gates type is even miraging on the horizon.
@@afro_giraffe Do your homework and recheck your facts.
@@afro_giraffe there are many poor white people, always has been
Nazi / white supremacist alert on the comments
South Africa has serious issues.
But I thought diversity was our strength? How are they existing without it?
And the rape and crime is non existant! And with the ANC they have to build their own communities. We are living through reversed apartheid in South Africa so people are trying to survive!
are whites forced to carry dompas? what reverse racism are you talking about? white people control 80% of the economy and get the most government tenders. I dare you to prove me wrong with evidence.
I agree.
Crime maybe since in any small community of about 2000 people crime will be less to non existent since everybody is literally almost cousins, but Rape is everywhere where are there are pervaise males.
the United States needs to be a whites-only country!
Reversed apartheid???
Wasnt it bound to happen after all these centuries of real apartheid?.
It is Newton 's law....
One thing you can observe in Oranja is that nothing goes to waste. Everyone knows where their money is spent and the result is to be seen.
lol
Vetualy no crime also. A miricle compared to the rest of the country.
@@charlcoetzee4600 lol
No corrupt politicians wasting our taxes
@@charlcoetzee4600 that was my top comment...do they have crime? if they don't then they have done the right thing...many people all thru europe and U.S and canada and australia and New Zealand and england know that multiculturalism has never worked but only breeds more issues and more divisions...more crimes...more drug deals...once peaceful communities covered in garbage and parks unsafe to walk in..it's called the kalergi plan
Nothing wrong with ORANIA, it's probably the only functioning & well managed satisfactory town in South Africa.
Its the same thing with indians very racist people who don't marry black people only whites outside their race but they will tell black people it's to preserve their culture if your dark indians see you as a lesser person
Why are Dutch in Africa to begin with ?
@@mobformoney6850 Same reason there are Africans in the Netherlands. Do you have a problem with Africans in the Neatherlands? If so please explain.
@@mobformoney6850 why are africans in Holland ?
@@machomaam4975 You support white people setting up an apartheid town in South Africa. Then why not make an apartheid town in the Netherlands, where white people are not allowed to come? Please explain.
Sounds heavenly
Move out= WHITE FLIGHT
Move in=GENTRIFICATION
A benefit of apartheid was keeping people's culture intact, many black tribes have lost their genetic purity due to mixing of tribes.
If the rest of the country is a mess, I perfectly can understand the reason they don't want people from other culture living in their town.
Lies again? World Cup
Kikikikiki mess ? Where you from ?
That’s a stupid comment🙄
Africa is the Motherland for “Black people”. You are soooo lost.. please repent…
These Whites can go home to Europe, problem solved!
which their town are you talking about. immigrant claiming ownership in a country they do not own.
Please do a report of the deterioration of South African townships since ANC rules
Lets fo a video about california, oregon, south briton where crime is extreme
We now have shopping malls , electricity,water,nice roads,bigger schools,clinics and hospitals ,renovated stadiums,sport centers,which township's are you talking about?I'm from Umlazi township in Durban
The highly over rated Palki and WION are a bunch of shallow thinkers and are cowards, they don't have the guts to do that.
Absolutely! I recently had to rescue an African woman and her children and put her into my flat on my property to get her away from the Zamma Zamma who were pulling women out of their tin shacks and raping them. They also made the poorest of the poor pay them money to leave the township and return home half of what they earned for the day.
She is pulling a trolley to collect rubbish from people's dustbins and they did this to her.
that wouldbe quite a good report to see. But then again it would go against the political agenda. Rather show white people as racists than the total failure of the ANC
I think it's much more racist to force ethnic or racial groups together that don't get along.
europe
The rest of South Africa is now a failed state that no longer has electricity or safe water, and crime is rampant. This small community is one of the only safe places in all of South Africa.
There are two more smaller cities.
Please tell something about ''farm attacks'' ignored by government systematically.
This is the reason.
Symmetry is needed in the news.
Hope you will find it better not all of us Indian are ignorant in that matter.
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😂🤣call ORANIA police to assist
Two more cities in South Africa?
@@movementmathebula828 I'm guessing all the residents have guns, they just didn't say it.
The safest town in africa and we all know why.
Apparently race affects behaviour and culture and economy
@akshaysharma3809 there are so many ra*e cases in india, i wonder why...
How about black racism? Why is that always ignored? Many areas in cities in America are off limits to white people. Why is that not considered racism?
Where are these areas where white people aren't allowed?
PLEASE TELL ME WHERE IN AMERICA IS IT OFF LIMITS FOR WHITES???
@@ahman5256 black college
Black to black ethnicity is quite common in African countries, but mostly in political, social-economic spheres. Blacks racist towards white is very rare , infact its quite common to see black person treat a white better than fellow black.
Because in 99% of times, racism is the opposite of what you're talking about.
I'm not surprised with what all is happening in South Africa, I would expect a criminal background check also.
Good point 👍 I wonder what the crime and murder rate is there 😂
@@hopeless5151 I know a bit about South Africa and the crime rate has risen to extremely high levels since apartheid was abolished. South Africa is one of the most dangerous countries in the world now because of the high crime rate.
@@ChrisS-nq1ke 1 out of 3 woman get graped in south Africa.
lol why are white people in south africa, go back to britain and get your tea elsewhere
don't let the cute little whitegirls by blm protesters!
As an older Black American we were better off when we segregated!
As a White Hispanic American who's been greatly aided by my fellow countrymen, especially by ones of African descent, segregation is a plague. Glory to Mankind! Down with Fascism!
Would love to see that town one day.
We don't blame them. We blame the ANC.
That's right
This town started before apartheid ended. It has nothing to do with the anc
Personally I blame the entire political cluster, as well as the people who created the political system in general, look at South Africa it's a mess, as well as most of the African continent.
South Africa is one of the richest countries on earth, yet it also has one the highest poverty and unemployment rates in the world.
South Africa is exuberantly wealthy, we have a 400 billion dollar economy and have the capacity to become a trillion, and multi-trillion dollar economy.
I also believe that any african country can achieve this as well, but we haven't done it because of the overwhelming poor governance we have not just in the country, but the continent as well. (Foreign influence is also a factor of the continent's economical and legislative decline over the years)
I always had this analogy ever since I was in highschool that the world is not to blame for the problem you see in it, society is.
The societies people live in locally and globally are in my observation and experience, incredibly toxic. As a young kid looking at society and how it operated, I never understood why people were comfortable living under a system, that's conception and construction was never meant to benefit the general population, but only a select few.
I never understood why people accepted living, growing and working in societies and systems that were remnants of barbaric practices/policies like colonialism and apartheid.
I never understood why people didn't make the choice to create, construct and cultivate new societies, equiped with socio-economic systems that will strengthen and benefit not only the general population, but generations to come as well.
I don't understand the society we all living in, I didn't understand it when I was younger and I still don't understand it now.
People across western countries do this in non legalized form. There isn't anything wrong with it as people gravitate towards others like themselves naturally. Anyone can live wherever they want in the USA but people congregate by culture and race for the most part.
Yes but this community is making their own country within South Africa. Their own currency, own holidays? Whats next, their own flag? Na these ones are just racist. Klaar.
They just want to be around people whiter than mayonnaise and bird shit
@@sunshineb7006 Africa need to rise against these people before they eradicate them.
@@sunshineb7006 since SA gained its independence the quality of life has plummeted and the economy has tanked, since whites and coloureds(mixed) are the minority the have faced constant harrasment from the black majority coloreds have been pushed into ghettos robbed and treated horribly white businesses( wich was the backbone of the economy) have been looted whites have been robbed and abused, and rape has skyrocketed, you know nothing about SA.
but that’s kind of exactly the point… you racists make no sense. you say people gravitate towards others like themselves naturally but what these people are trying to do is not natural, what occurred in western countries in “legalized form” was not natural it was forced on people and is exclusionary. europeans went all over the world and expect everyone to make a place for them but get mad when the rest of the world tries to do the same
Beautiful town with low crime rate. Let's now try and ruin it.
That town is the safest in South Africa
I'm from South Africa and had no idea this town existed
me too first time
Are you guys black south African or white south African?.
we mix biryani
This isn't the only town, there's another one in PTA
because you are busy hating the few black African immigrants that are taking your job.
This is coming from lady whose cultures considers some as being "untouchables"
hey thats exactly what i was thinking
Well there are strict rules against these things unlike this. And just because someone is covering the news for an international channel about a flaw of any religion, country or ethnicity that doesn't mean you will start targeting her for her own things.
Both untouchable and this south Africa related news are wrong deeds. You can't justify it like tit for tat...
Exactly.pretty and very soon we will also get them deported to their ancestral countries
Why you triggered?
Untouchability is a crime in India,and also our PM and President are of so called Lower caste
Do you wanna bet that the level of development and order are different comparing with thee rest of the country?
there are groups internationally that do this. Like the Armish, Jewish communities, Muslim, Indians, etc communities outside their countries of origin. There is a business man, and author Penuel the black pen (also has a UA-cam channel). Who say, black townships/kasi/ ghettos have a lot to learn from Orania. Even without the resources townships could create a similar system, reinvest in the community and try fix the problems internally. Afrikaaners in Orinia did not declare that they are a sovereign nation/region WION is the one that said this which is incorrect, there is no quote from Orinia leadership even. Just Wion running a sensationalist angle
I dnt know about the Armish, Jewish or the muslims, but We Indians dont declare any territory as ours exclusively....forget about overseas, we cant do it in our own country that is way more diverse than the continent of Africa.
U like what the Oranians do, then fine but dnt speak about other cultures without any knowledge.
Boom Shaka Laka's have taken over the US Ghetto's
Funny you should say that because this sounds like Israel 2.0
Indias living as a community! I wouldn't think so gentleman. See our historic sites and temples. You learn that we are always divided, allowed invaders to loot and extort us. We are still divided in the name of religions, some intelligents say Pakistan is their home, other intelligents say go to your home. Some people think their language is the mother language of Sanskrit, some would say Hindi is the only national language. We are a bunch of intelligents.
Nonsense stop dividing based on race
I mean, I can get where they are coming from. Even in India there are some tribal places who don't even allow outsiders to touch them or live there. One can visit the place but you cannot spend night there, you have to follow strict rigorous rules otherwise you will get fined. They say the same thing, to retain their tribal culture they have to do it. It's fascinating here because it's the white people!
U mean the jarawas tribe that is separated from the outside world
@@tundebakare6887 many other in north east atleast, I guess few areas in MH CG JH OD,
Possibly cause we let them in once and then you know what happened
The difference is the tribals don’t suffer from superiority complex.
Shut up
You have to live in South Africa to understand. I think Gravitas is misrepresenting the people in Orania and painting them in a negative light. They are just trying to survive. And the crime rate there is extremely low.
I support orania and whites, there should be more towns like orania.
I am from South African and I can tell you this is not entirely true.
They are just a white afrikaans community trying to keep their culture and heritage alive.
I am frm SA as well n heritage story is a cover up.... that is total racism taking place there
They will be best served to preserve their White culture in a town in Europe, problem solved.
Wow! You definitely have a problem to not see why this is an issue. You will be under white rule forever !
Why not going back to their country where there won’t see no black men.
After demolition our cultures .
Seeing the condition in south Africa, I don't blame them
And I wonder who is at fault. Africa was robbed of all it resources!!!
Well said
The condition in SA was caused by them, I blame them they own it.
@@paygorenewableenergy312 do explain in detail
@@paygorenewableenergy312 lol actually it was the blacks lol 😂
I bet there is very little crime in Orania. Probably a coincidence though.
People want to live by people who actually like them.
Well done Orania for doing all the jobs yourself showing you don't need cheap labour if your not lazy
and let me guess you are a christian
Yes but they should go back to Europe
@@BakangPrivv what’s wrong with the race thing? Afrikaans culture is dying out and endangered so they need Afrikaans exclusive towns to protect and continue their people. Nothing wrong with that, they don’t allow British people to live there either so it’s not really a white vs black thing it’s Afrikaans only.
If they were to allow non Afrikaans people and blacks it would just become like every other town in South Africa and would lose its culture and unique identity and because blacks are the majority black culture would dominate therefore it must be ethnically exclusive
I sure wish white southerners would have done likewise but lazy is lazy. The rest is history
@@laylaali5977
We found a Fascist here, keep the hate
As a black man l love what they are doing. Their hate and racism is isolated from the rest of the country. They’re not out spreading mayhem amongst the black population. Good on them.
"Their ..... from the rest of the country"
among your people there is never a lack of it ...but i understand your surprise that some people are actually reacting
you did learn that others should be grateful and pay you for your hostility
_They’re not out spreading mayhem amongst the black population._
No. The blacks can do that all on their own. LMAO. You obviously know nothing about South Africa.
They formed this community of their own choosing? I don't see any hate or racism here?, you aren't making sense?
@@felicitydawson1143 these are people who will kick out a mother if she has a baby from a black guy. They will see her and the brown baby out.
Read that again.
@@curocurovic6675 This comment is truly incoherent. But whatever, I really don’t care what you are babbling about.
This video reaffirmed my faith in humanity.All is not yet lost.
You don't believe in humanity. You believe in oppression and death amongst the Race of Mankind.
Proud to be a afrikaner you put us down but we stand up again
He was absolutely right about preserving his ethnic identity.
In my view, feeling proud on your identity is never a racist approach but considering yourself superior to others is a racist mentality indeed.
Protecting any identity is the root of all atrocity within humanity.
@@Lee-in7ng conspiring to eliminate identities And making hybrids is more atrocious in many ways.!
@@alfredphamotse1316 and if you dont want to “date your own kind” thats perfectly fine. lol, my “kind” is human.
Aren't Dutch people from Switzerland? He's not even from Africa. It's atrocious that they would disallow anyone. It's not even their continent.
He can maintain his identity without segregation! If they won't integrate then they can move back to Europe!
Crime free, enough said
Segregation is a crime. Apartheid reminiscence. The world is based on history, culture, diversity of races, and since the dawn of humanity. Fundamentalists with their own system apart from Africa's natural habitat. They should respect the true Africans.
@@paulaamaral8429Lol, shut up.
@@paulaamaral8429
" They should respect the Africans "
They did they leave them alone
@paulaamaral8429 unless you wear a tiny hat.
If this is apartheid, then what’s going on in Israel and its occupied territories is 10 times worse.
Sounds like peace on Earth
Everyone deserves a safe space.
Violent crime is a form of oppression. If green people are notorious for committing astronomically high levels of violent crime, it would be nonsensical of them to accuse those who avoid them of racism for not liking the *colour* green.
This isn't Twitter, it's an entire country
Safe place to do what??? What is it they want to do that they can't do with a black person there? Are there activities ONLY white people can do and black people can't??? Call raci*m what it is,stop giving weak,unintelligible excuses that make no sense.
No race should be able to EXCLUDE people in any country. Pathetic Nazi ideology.
It will fade away in ww3
Beautiful town. Unfortuanley, the sucess of this small town in the middle of a barren desert has created jealousy and hate from many people. At the same time, the community has been a place of learning and diplomacy for many of Africa's ethnic groups, this includes not just between whites and bkacks, but more broadly Afrikaans and Xhosa and Zulu. Many delgations from Zulu and Xhosa communities have visited Orania to learn how this community has managed water, food, economic, healthcare, road, and town planning.
lol why are white people in south africa, go back to britain and get your tea elsewhere
They praise Ver Woed and when I hear about Ver Woed I cant help but remember the horror stories my parents lived through during Apartheid.... so to hell with anybody who approves of Ver Woeds ideolologies
There it is “jealousy” …
Similar here in US .
They want what others have worked hard for and so they take it .
@@VIRGONOMICS the slaves built the U.S my guy
@Abe Adams very ignorant I see, you do understand that slavery was at the center of the economy, who ever traded with those who had slaves benefitted, even I child could come to that realization
The Whites only town, is managing better than everywhere else?!?! Whaaat?
Whodda thunk?! 😂😂😂😂
It seems like people are in favor of having areas like this all over the world. Just as japan is for japanese. And china is for chinese. And korea is for koreans. Nobody in their right mind would argue with that.
@@14words_We_are_the_8percentAnd no one would care if they weren’t successful.
Always “ sour grapes”.
This is not apartheid it is a nation preserving themselves and loving their culture and people.....
If other color people done this in white European countries believe me they would consider them racist.
'people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think'
Bruh then why they go to Africa and claim their lands
Its the same thing with indians very racist people who don't marry black people only whites outside their race but they will tell black people it's to preserve their culture if your dark indians see you as a lesser person
I hate Kali
I love how this clickbait video title is trying so hard to make Orania seem like an outrageous apartheid state but 90% of the comments are open-minded, positive and live and let live. Yay South Africa! We can't rely on the ANC government for anything, if we want a better country we have to build it ourselves on a community level.
Excellent comment, Michele
Exactly.... there are places where you would be hung in the street for being white.
I Bet this town has the Lowest Crime Rate in All of South Africa. just saying.
@@annoyboyPictures I bet you are 100% right. Funny how they go hand and hand aren’t they. Facts don’t lie.
@@annoyboyPictures That would be Cape Town, not this trash town.
I see some low IQ idiots trying to correlate race to crime. For a long time now, poverty has been linked to crime. Poverty is at 55% in South Africa because there is nothing there nor is there anything being produced, so the west doesn't invest there. The former apartheid government thrived because they not only had the support of the west, they were able to exploit native South Africans to build their wealth. What happened when that support dried up because of their brutality? They gave up power because the country was collapsing. The west had enough of them.
Then once the apartheid government left, no one told the new South African government to avoid putting those who would be corrupt into power. Corruption eats away at a country, which is why the west is so forceful against corruption; look at India. Corruption and democracies don't mix.
If race and crime had a correlation, tell me why is Clifton safe? Why is Bantry Bay safe? Those areas have large black populations, albeit wealthy black South Africans. Now, tell me why is Kyzyl, Russia the most dangerous city in Europe? It has a major murder rate and there are multiple red alerts for tourists not to visit there. You will find it very difficult to find a black person in that city.
Orania isn't even a town; its a gated community more like. Plus, ask them how many women get sexually assaulted there, how many children. Places like these, there are always behind the scene victims. They have no real police force, so there is no one to actually turn to there. So I'm pretty sure kiddie diddlers love that little "town".
You see what you want to see, because you drank the kool-aid the other morons have. You don't search for real knowledge, just little tidbits of info from people who think like you, that's not based on any real research. Nothing but biased bs. Pathetic
What the narrator conveniently left out is that this town is completely privately owned, every square centimetre of it!
The socalled "money" is actually a coupon system.
dont blame em , especially not after 300,000 murders in the last 5 years
Those numbers seem over blown.
300,000 is an entire army !
I don't blame them. I honestly wish I was living there. I'm sure there's no looting, crime or rape there. They must be walking freely during the day and night without the constant fear of being robbed or attacked. Must be nice. This country has fallen
They looted our continent don't forget about
South Africa is way better than India lol
What to talk about rape and crime ? When colonizers annihilated and tortured generations of black people and native Americans! Go read a book big dummy
it is not white man country, it is majority black African country.. what rubbish! u are sounding as only black people are responsible for crimes,white ma are angels. this is truly disgracefull,they must laws change this form of enclave.this oure porejudice
Lol. What a ridiculous comment. White people don't commit crimes? What a joke
I do not agree on all of Oranjia's policies but it is worth noting that 150 women are raped and about 60 people are murdered in South Africa every day. Some of them white farmer's in brutal farm attacks that is sometimes racially motivated. This is as a direct result of of the ANC incompetent leadership and racists policies like black economic empowerment. Oranjia is a save place that stand in contrast to the rest of South Africa. I find Oranjia's policies to race a bit extreme but do not blame them for wanting to have a functional state and sleep save at knight.
Don't lie here. What farm murder attacks? ...That are racially motivated my foot.
YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY , CAN A BLACK PERSON DIVIDE CERTAIN PART OF EUROPE TO MAKE IT THEIR OWN , THIS A MESS , I WONDER WHAT THE INDEGINE OF SOUTH AFRICA ARE DOING
@@mahmudanooz227
"the locals"
west africans are less locals in SA than they are in France
@@imhoteptheunsullied3000
I war refering to Malema kill the bores song and cals to kill white people. Also Note the unnecessary brutality of the murders. Also I said some farm murders not all.
@@curocurovic6675 I can add that not many know that ethnic SA people are Khoisan, and they had to fight to even be recognized by government as native.
A racist is never racist in their eyes.
They are not racist the black people killing innocent white farmers are though these people deserve a safe area to live
The Crime level there is 0%
Mr Bennie van Zyl the person who was interviewed about his view on Mr Mandela was very cleverly inserted into this video. Mr Bennie van Zyl is not from Orania nor does he have anything to do with the town itself. Clearly a very one sided view of Orania and South Africa is presented here. WION has nothing to say about the many black only towns and areas in South Africa where whites are "very welcome" only until they experience the reality. WION also has nothing to say about the BEE and BBEE policies that rule in the rest of the country. Also WION does not report on the utter poverty amongst Afrikaner people that was created by these policies (close to 800k Afrikaner people living in shacks without water or electricity and without any hope )
Funny enough WION does not mention anything about the fact that Afrikaner people resurrected this little town from absolute ruins (an area and a town that nobody wanted) to what it is today, a prosperous community without the crime and the degradation of the rest of the country. I am absolutely convinced that if any WION staff had taken the time and effort to drive from Gauteng airport to Orania through all the potholes trying to avoid all the riots and hoping not to get Hijacked or shot on the way, they would certainly have told Quite a different story. It Quite clear that they are up to dragging these hardworking and honest peoples name through the mud and present them to the world as racist thugs. One can only wonder what the real truth behind such action is.
Oh boy, you said it well, and exactly as it is. I am disgusted in Wion.
@@marcuskelly5768 Thankyou and God bless you.
They should go back to Dutchland then and really be with their "own people"
@@barend4803 whenever a british or descendant of british is being called racist they always defend themselves pointing the mud in the eyes of others as if that gives them the perfect excuse to be assholes
Why is the report one-sided? Sensationalism? That's a low.
Strange thing is, blapipo hate wypipo but always want to live with them. why?
Hate us but need us.
That’s a very dangerous ( and quite frankly unfair) situation for the W’s.
As long as they are not causing anyone any trouble I really don't care what they do..🙏😇
I agree, from all accounts, looks like Orania is doing well than rest of South Africa
@@blackmamba9950 Only problem is they are just buying a problem for their descendants. A white only town surrounded by a massive black population. A Mugabe type president of South Africa and the town stops existing in a couple of days and they all move to Europe. A blind person can see this coming.
of course you feel that way. Typical racist speak
Even if you did care you wouldn't make a difference.
@@FearMongeringSells The difference will come in future when they have to repeat the end of apartheid, just on a smaller scale.
That’s not racist that’s boundaries
Seggregation is a proven sucess system! Time to get back to it