The Idiocy of Blocking Music on YouTube (Rant)
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2024
- I discuss the continued idiocy of Blocking music on UA-cam.
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"If no one can talk about the music, how can you pass it on to future generations?" - You nailed it right there Rick.
That’s a great quote.
Boomer rock was a cheap commodity to begin with. It will fizzle into obscurity like thousands of other ancient music styles and art forms.
As a law student , I honestly find these videos really annoying. If Rick really wanted this to stop(when In my opinion he just likes doing them because they always get over 500k clicks) he would hire a lawyer. And file a lawsuit against the company. And guess what? He would win. You can play and talk about music in any class room form. Because? It’s educational, ricks channel is about teaching you about music. He legit could win this case in a week tops.
@@jessieplaysmusic8530, I wish you’d personally contact him and help him with his case as soon as you’re an attorney.
@@cmikesmith664 i highly doubt he would reply. But I’m 100% down.
I used to manage the UA-cam channel for a friend of mine, a recording artist who had a couple of hits (including MTV airplay of the video) in the 90s. She had been on Atlantic Records at the time, so Atlantic owned all her videos from that period, even though she hadn't been on the label for years. Somewhere around 2010 or so, we found some old 3/4 Inch U-matic videotapes of her videos, which we had digitized and posted to her UA-cam channel. We thought the fans would enjoy the blast from the (relatively recent) past.
The videos lasted, if I remember correctly, something like 4 or 5 days, at which point they were taken down due to a copyright claim by Atlantic Records, and we were warned not to try it again lest we lose the channel. We tried to argue, but there was basically nobody to argue with. I think YT has a challenge process now, but it didn't back then. So basically, my friend couldn't put her own videos on her own channel. We even had her lawyer (who happens to be a pretty high powered entertainment lawyer who represents some pretty big name people, way bigger than my singer-songwriter friend) try to reach out to Google, or to Atlantic, or to anybody, and basically he said it wasn't worth fighting. So we gave up. But you want to talk about a broken system? How about a system where a musician can't post their own videos? It's insane. And it serves no one.
They aren't her videos. Atlantic Records paid for them and hired her as an employee. She sold her songs to them and possibly her name and her likeness.
@@denaeads9745 Sure. And that points to another problem of the music industry. For every one artist that "makes it" there are dozens, or hundreds that just scrape by, or, worse, end up in hock to their labels because they never are able to make back the money the label spent on them, resulting in them losing all, or most, rights to their work product. I don't know what the answer to that is, but it's a shame, especially when you consider how many incredibly talented people toil in obscurity and never work their way out of indentured servitude. The labels aren't necessarily the villains in this story -- they're just businesses, trying to feed their families like everyone else. But the system is flawed; I don't think anyone would dispute that.
But, as I said, that's a different topic. My point here is that the videos that the labels spend all that money on, they are created for one purpose and one purpose only, and that is to promote the songs they cover, along with the albums and the artists in general. The album that contains the songs whose videos were blocked is still sold (albeit in very small numbers) by Atlantic, because yes, they own it. So what purpose does it serve for them to block the videos from being shown by the artist who wrote the songs in the first place? They can only stand to benefit from the videos airing. Why try to stop it?
@@denaeads9745 That's NOT how it works. Musicians are not employees. What Atlantic Records owned would have been specifically *recording* rights, that is a specific recording.
Note what Taylor Swift is doing, re-recording her own songs.
Of course, she might have signed away the rights to the compositions themselves, which would be a poor business decision. But it definitely is not automatic, and definitely is not part of buying (not hiring) buying rights to a recording.
Music is blocked out of FOMO. Fear of missing out on royalties. Fear of losing a revenue stream that dried up years ago. When the Eagles and the Beatles were current on the charts, record deals were THE thing. Gold, platinum, and double platinum meant money. The aged musicians don't know how to deal with gravy tap being turned off. Your point of introducing new, younger listeners is extremely valid. Someone needs to explain the situation to guys like D.Henley.
@Billy White Jr. that’s a really interesting point.
@@kayelle8005 It is the only valid point but notice that almost nobody is listening.
@@vibratingstring Except it isn't. As Rick pointed out, YT can monetize the video and pay the copyright holders that money. It's actually more democratic than a bar owner getting a license, because that license fee is split up among artists who might never actually have a song played there. Radio stations submit audits of what was played in a fiscal year, but bar owners? Nope. YT only blocks stuff if the copyright holders jam a bunch of lawyers up their ass to make them do so. It's an interesting point Billy raised and it may well be something of a factor, but the fact that there are (for instance) lyric videos all over YT which are obviously monetized by the actual copyright holder proves that YT does in fact have a way to get the correct people paid.
Personally, when I heard that Don Henley acted that way, I dumped the few albums of his that I had and vowed never to listen to him or The Eagles again. Bye Bye Donny.
Jimi Hendrix is fading into obscurity because his half sister is keeping his music blocked! "I think maybe someday they're gonna wrap me up in cellophane and sell me," is a very prophetic lyric. So sad that generations down the road will not get to experience the impact of his playing and music.
I’m not disagreeing with you, but I’m curious if you think younger generations have the attention span for a lot of Jimi’s music?
I went through a long phase in my early 20s of listening to Jimi almost exclusively, and also learning to play his songs on guitar, drums, and bass guitar. My friends were all thoroughly annoyed and didn’t care for most of it, and this was late 90s early 2000s
Long guitar solos and rough recordings are better in my mind than modern pop with all of its production and sterility, but I’m not sure how many young people agree
I don’t think I want TikTok ruining a lot of my favorite music. I can barely listen to The Who anymore without thinking of CSI and car dealerships
Jimi's half sister is in charge because their father is gone. And neither of them is exactly record business savvy. Hell Jimi wasn't! She has lawyers and advisors telling her what is right and all she wants to do is to protect his legacy, because the record industry chewed him up and spit him out. You know he was mostly broke when he died right? Well his record company sure as hell wasn't. She is a sister of a dead guy who got taken for a ride and used and abused by the record business. Try and remember that when you are assigning blame.
True. If I asked my high school students who Jimi Hendrix was, I would be shocked if more than a handful had even heard of him. Could be wrong though. Maybe I should actually ask them.
I'm 20 years old so maybe you are referring to people younger than me, but I would heavily disagree with you here. Spotify (streaming services collectively) have allowed people to listen and explore any style or genre that they want to, the only people who aren't actively seeking out music they haven't heard are the ones who don't want to. All you have to do is just go to any of the thousands of currented playlists for every genre including classic rock and get exposed to stuff you have not heard. The music of the 60s and 70s came out 50-60 years ago, its like being sad that the young people of the 70s were not appreciating the music that was made in the 1920s. Of course his popularity is fading that's what happens over time to everyone and everything, but there are still a large amount of people my age into this music.
Some of his absolute best live performances are relatively unknown due to this crap. The 2001 compilation called "Voodoo Child: The Jimi Hendrix Collection" has all his best performances condensed in one package on disc 2. You can't find most of them on UA-cam, but It is on Spotify, or you might be able to buy the compilation still. If they would allow these versions to be on YT, more people would get the chance to hear these amazing live versions, they are MUST listens for any fan of his IMO. His version of Killing Floor at Monterey is amazing as well, but again, it's unavailable on YT.
In 2017, Haley Reinhart's 3rd album was a cover album of songs her parents raised her on from the '60's. She flew her parents to LA to have them record on it, on analog tape, using engineers who worked on the original songs. After the album came out, Jefferson Airplane, The Zombies (pre their Hall of Fame induction) and the Turtles all reached out to Haley to thank her for bringing their music to a NEW generation. REAL musicians want their music, their legacy to go on, to be enjoyed by their fans, to be discovered by new fans too young to have known the songs when they came out. This is why the music business sucks. They only think about now and what 'belongs' to THEM, they don't give a fnck about 'legacy' and 'artists'
It's the IP management business they don't care about anything else.
Who?
@@suspicionofdeceit Intellectual Property management. Basically, an entity that owns the rights to the property. music, in this case.
Could it be the artist were appreciative and there were no problems because they would be getting paid if they had publishing? I wonder how the artists would have felt if the music was covered on UA-cam with no income for them? It could be artists from yesteryear have made their money and hopefully are doing OK now and just enjoy hearing the music go on and inspire but there are many who still need or want that money. It’s a tricky decision. Do you clamp down on any infraction, protecting your creation or hope that it’s presence in a popular medium actually generates an increase in DL’s or purchases that would eclipse people finding it because it is blocked on free outlets? So glad I’m no longer trying to make a living as a musician. It was an impossible dream when there was a traditional industry…now…no way.
I gotta say, everything I've seen Haley do is sheer magic. She has an amazing voice, with control, range, dynamic finesse... She reminds me so much of the old Jazz singers my dad liked, like Bessie Smith. I think if I was a songwriter of any ability or fame I would be stoked to have her sing my songs. She's one of my top 3 female vocalists of the current era.
Just keep doing what you do Beato. The knowledge that you have transferred will have a lasting impression upon the music world for many years to come. Love what you do. Do what you love. Thank you sir. D
@@Stevengenx Same here. The man speaks sense and educates. I'm very unmusical, but I've learned so much. And have even bought albums based on the back of what Rick has introduced me to, by artists I've never heard of before. This is what REALLY grates, the way that honest UA-camrs are vilified by UA-cam, and blatant thieves are allowed to upload full albums and get away with it, year after year after year.
No it won't. Ask young people about David Bowie and watch them search their memory. Eventually they'll give up and say: "who"?
or, pay the royalties. The artists you cover didn't create their music so that YOU can make a living off it. 🤷
All music is a derivative of something prior. Great musicians don’t do it for the money. They do it because they have to.
@@daviswall3319 1.) Bad music is derivative of something else. Good music is born out of/expands something else. Beato isn't doing either-- he's discussing OTHER people's music and he is repeatedly complaining because those people want to be paid for their work, but he's not making enough (off of THEIR work) to share with them. There's an easy solution here-- he can make his own music, break it down to explain those same concepts to us, and keep all the money to himself without anyone else having a LEGITIMATE claim to it. If he can't create his own compelling music (no shame there), then it simply proves that he needs other people's music to do what he does-- and they absolutely have the right to not permit it.
Well…an idea…..Dave Grohl seems to be friends with EVERYBODY in the bands you mention…….I would love to hear you talk to Dave about this issue. And I would live for Dave to talk to these artists. Perhaps he can convince them? anyway, it’s just a thought.
I’d like to hear Grohl’s opinion on the topic overall.
That sounds like a great idea -
+1 I’d love to hear DG’s take on this topic.
Make this happen!!!
It's bureaucrats who get paid for doing nothing and so busy themselves doing something. Nothing is going to stop them unless some alpha gets in there and fires all of them. It's a freaking machine.
If ECM were a smart company, Rick, they would have paid you for giving such unmeasurable exposure to their product and made you a member of their board.
That goes for ALL the blockers.
Dear ECM, I wasn’t even born when September Fifteenth was released and had no idea who Pat Metheny was, UNTIL I watched Rick’s video about the song. Now I’m a fan.
There is no point. They will never learn. Just tor***t the whole discography.
The ONLY reason I have listened to half of the older artists you have made videos on is because I came across them on your channel and seen the passion you have for what makes the track great, therefore I listen to it on Spotify etc. Without you making the videos I wouldn't have heard of the music. You are literally doing the PR work for them for free. They should be paying you!
Agreed :nods: Rick has had me go back and re-evaluate some bands that I turned my back on when I was younger because they didn't fit 'my profile' - it's something we all need to do now and then and it really helps when you have a great ambassador to guide you.
Exactly! 👌
Same. I am 37 and sad to say a lifetime musician but had never heard of Pat Metheney at all, Nevr heard of Oscar, never heard of Lyle, never heard any actual recordings besides maybe one here and there from Joe Pass let alone knew he was up there with or better than Django... Until your channel.
Woody Allen made the movie sweet and lowdown on Django Reinhardt, great movie and great artist.
But, without that promotion from the movie I would not know him. Nor would I know any of the artist you have introduced me to out of my "playing style".
Just simply, Thank you
I've just ended listening to Joe's Garage of Frank Zappa, and paying attention to the lyrics (since I'm not an English-speaking native). Eventually, UA-cam will become The Central Scrutinizer and censoring all music.
The white zone is for loading and unloading only... if you have to load or unload, go to the white zone. You'll love it.
It's a way of life
@@MicovskiMC It's a way of life!
Rick, you should talk to Doug Helvering at The Daily Doug. He just posted a video rant today about how he got copyright notices for trying to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Genesis' Nursery Cryme album. He's a composer and music teacher who does deep analysis like you do, and he's good-natured about all this blocking stuff but just as frustrated as you are.
These labels and their lawyers are cutting off their noses to spite their faces. As we original fans age and die off, there will be no one left to turn the next generation on to this great music.
Yes! Doug obviously did great work on the 50 year old album analysis. How frustrating.
Music will outlive UA-cam. Streaming is excessive double handling (of data) anyway.
... didn't he mention Rick as well?
Well that infuriated me! Doug was right, he ADDS knowledge to the song/art, which is absolutely right. The way we learn from Beato and Doug just has no value.
I didn’t appreciate prince until after he died and the live videos were finally posted without being taken down. I honestly had no clue how much of a genius he was until the content was actually available to listen on the internet
Imagine if Rick was able to do some videos explaining that!
Are you sure The Prince Estate blocks videos ?
Prince's estate is very short sited.
You didn't appreciate Prince until it was available on UA-cam?
UA-cam has too much sway over your life.
If you can't find something on UA-cam, use that opportunity to find everything else out there. On and OFF the Internet.
@@christeuma Don't be so harsh. Younger generations didn't experience Prince when he was at his peak in the 80's. The last blip of him was back in the early 2000's and he barely gets radio time today. Kids aren't going to run into him, unless they are surfing for different music on places like UA-cam.
It's free and almost 100 percent positive advertising. I watch a lot of music, and movie, reactors that struggle with all the blocking. I know it's mostly out of the artists hands, but I wish they would give more pushback. When the artists comment on reactors channels, it's a pretty big thrill.
Agreed. What UA-cam REALLY need to nail is the full album uploader merchants, who get millions of views, never get closed down, and exist on UA-cam for years.
All because UA-cam make it as difficult as possible to report them.
Do No Evil. Yeah, right Google. It no longer cuts. Get a grip Alphabet.
We love you, Rick. I bought your Halloween bundle as a Christmas present for my son, a talented and natural musician, and I look forward to giving it to him.
The music industry has along history of hostility towards new technology. From cassette tape- "home taping is killing music" , the fear over Napster and downloading, smothering DAT and of course copy protected CDs in the early 2000s. It's a combination of fearing the technology- not having the imagination to see the potential it offers, and of course a fear of losing control and the income stream. Each of these developments has provided the industry with more opportunities than problems. Maybe finally the penny will drop...
You hit it right on the nail!!!
I love your rants Rick. You make sense. Wish others were as wise as you.
Yeah! Rick is not afraid to say it as it is!!!! Right on!!!!
65 and still playing ( since I was 13 when I started )and love learning from you.
Rick, you are the only person I have come across that has the knowledge and explained in an understandable way how the music industry works, or doesn't work. It's so important for people outside the industry to get an education on how things can be done better. I appreciate the passion and energy you have put into all your videos and enjoy watching them immensely.
Unless knowledgeable people put it out there, nothing will ever change for the many artist trying to make a living from their talent. I wish you all the best and continued success for the channel. Down under in Aussie land.
Your video on September Fifteenth from Pat Metheney and Lyle Mays introduced me to this great album that I have now added to my collection. You are so dead on about record labels not seeing the benefits they will gain from enthusiasts like you who share great artists and really help to see why these songs are truly amazing. I am in my fifties and have discover these gems I never knew existed because of wonderful people like you.
Random teenager here. Love your videos.
Also, I definitely agree with the idea that music needs to be talked about so it can reach a younger audience. I've been lucky enough to have all my mom's old records and cassettes from when she was growing up, which has helped a lot in finding older music that I otherwise would have had to comb through to get to. It's easy to start diving into a band when you have a whole album that you can just throw on the record player and listen to to get you started.
Well said.
You always put a smile on my face when I see one of your videos. You come across as a lovely lovely man. I’d have loved to be a musician but I am tone deaf and sing like a choked chicken. Keep on keeping on sir.
I listen to jazz because of Rick Beato. Always listened to punk, new wave, metal, rock since the 80s. Discovering jazz was like discovering another planet.
I'm in my late 30's. I heard The Köln Concert a little over a decade ago, and it changed my world. I discovered it on youtube, from an a digitized album upload on a random user account. From that, I have discovered (and subsequently purchased) music I never would have found without being able to go down music wormholes. It's incredibly self-destructive for these labels to do this, and it will result, as you've summated, in the foundation of western modern music being lost on the new generations. But at least my kids will know a handful of greats.
Seconded, in the sense that I have bought albums in the past based on Rick featuring them as a “most underrated guitar solo” or “best acoustic intro” or whatever. Rick giving them more than free advertising: saying this is great because…
Rick, if you continue on the successful arc you're currently on, you'll have artists from the past coming to you for exposure.
I believe this 100%
Rick, I'm with you on this.
I picked up The Beato Book a few days ago, for two reasons: 1. I love the work you do on this channel. 2. I am interested in music theory and the videos you have done on music theory have been so clear and accessible.
Thank you.
Love you brother for this honest dialog and help to promote great artists with important analyzation of their work
I love ricks videos because he offers awesome music theory and guitar lessons and when he's just talking music its coming from a place of experience and expertise so I value his opinion a little more than most
Rick, you are so correct about your videos providing free advertising for the artists as well as the label. After your video I bought and downloaded As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls. I had to listen to the whole thing ASAP! ECM should thank you.
You are so on point, you sell records just by being a teacher who shows us the bands I didn’t know even exist. You have turned me onto so many musicians, without you talking about them, I wouldn’t have known about! Stand strong My friend, you are what every band needs. They need someone to explain why and how they are great and I always thank you for helping understand the mechanics behind a song. I Love what you do!
That's sad, man.
Keep doing this great job Rick
In the early days of online video uploads, there was a guy who did Xmas light shows to music. He used music mainly from Trans Siberian Orchestra and Mannheim Steamroller, and published them on his website. TSO congratulated and encouraged him, MS issued a cease and desist order... I wonder which of those bands now plays dozens of sold out shows every year to tens of thousands of people!!!
I still like using CDs, there's something special about selecting the tracks you want and burning a hard copy. I burn my own songs and listen to them in the shower/bathroom where my 90s boom box is.
You have my support, love your videos. Bought your book even though I am really a couple years away from needing it. Just started to pick up piano and have a long ways to go. I will eventually read that whole book.
Keep up the good fight, Rick. Thank you, and thank you, Billy, for all your hard work.
Because of youtube channels like Rick's I started listening to and buying music that was unknown to me before. And most of those are older bands and artists like Zappa, Steely Dan, Miles Davis and many more. These blockers shoot themselves in the foot.
Thank you Rick!
I spent a HUGE amount of time recently, recreating Vangelis' Chariots of Fire. (Based on my notes... I spent around 50+ man hours working on my homage.)
I used every modern DAW method to make sure I 'nailed it' as far as composition, orchestration, mixing and final UA-cam audio compensation went.
Unlike you, I was THRILLED that I got copyright claimed. To me, the 'claim' means I was close enough in my version that 'AI' could not tell it was not the amazing artist that made the original. Even though I used a more modern orchestration method, modern voicings, and even a totally different tempo....
I don't try to make any cash from UA-cam. It's a losing situation in the current environment but, I was VERY happy that I got 'claimed' for my version. I will not link the video here cuz that is just bad conduct.
If you wanna hear it, it's on my channel (not hard to find if you are interested).
I can totally understand your frustration and I get it! Your videos BRING listeners to 'older/forgotten' music.
This is a noble effort and I am sure, at least some of the 'used to be big names in music' are fine with that and don't shout foul. After all, you are brining in Spotify listers and other streaming dollars... none of which you claim.
Many other of these 'stockpiles of songs' are more about the $DOLLARS than the music. That's the terrible part of the industry really.
When a Homage or and Educational video gets blocked or flagged, it's because (usually) some know nothing 3rd party has a massive group of chimps that hear something and decide, HEY! we should make money on this... we know who owns it!
I don't get it. Again, I am not trying to make any $$ from UA-cam. I am just trying to be the composer I wanna be.
Fantastic! KUDOS to your 900th video. Pat is an incredible musician and equally as a human being. Great job, Rick.
Thank you for doing what you do. I’m not a musician but I am an appreciator of music in many forms. Because of your videos you’ve turned me on to music I haven’t heard before and look for things I might not have on Spotify. They’re getting free advertising and they apparently just don’t understand how they could gain a whole new generation of listeners. Keep on pressing the message.
I still think you would be doing a service to the entire music community by doing a full breakdown of Virtuoso by Joe Pass. There really isn't enough online covering his compositions, and the ones online are spotty at best in terms of quality. Your older Joe Pass videos are literally the best content there is on Joe, but with how far your video quality has come it would be amazing to see you covering that album, and breaking down chords, and melodies, etc....
You are the best person that could possibly break it all down. If I had the money to throw at you to do that I would write you a blank check just to do that. Btw I did buy the Beato Book last year. Happy to contribute in any way.
Good show Rick (we all deserve time to vent ... it's a right, not a privilege)
At the time I viewed this video it had 105,609 views and 1160 comments. What you do and continue to do Rick is educate people on music. I certainly thank you for this and hopefully you will continue to enlighten us all for a good long time.
Rick, I might not ever get to the point to be mentioned in one of your videos, but I would do everything in my power to give you the permissions to use my stuff. People like you help musicians and enthusiasts like myself, and your approach and quality is timeless and priceless. Thank you for all of your work.
You should get the Legal Eagle guy to start a class action lawsuit against UMG/etc and get a bunch of the other music/reaction channels in on it.
There are way better UA-cam Lawyers.
Legal Eagles? Robert Redford?
@@PlayaSinNombre like who?
@@thatwasprettyneat Nate the Lawyer, Rekieta Law, Runkle of the Bailey
They need to get a bunch of famous musicians to start a riot. The labels will listen to their own artists....maybe, for once. It's the best shot I see, and they need to realize that both the label and the artist make more money if more people listen to their songs
I think you hit the nail on the head with the difference between older and contemporary artists, and those who control the rights to the music of each. It's all to do with intellectual property. Those who control the catalogues of the older artists are still in the mindset of the pre-internet age, when tight control of IP rights was how they made their money. They still haven't updated their approach to the realities of the internet age, when control of IP rights, while still important, is actually a bottleneck in gaining exposure to new (i.e. younger) audiences when exercised so tightly. When will this change? Probably when the companies that control the catalogues are finally run by executives who grew up in the internet age, as the current generation of auld bastards dies out! So, ten or so years from now, when you retire from UA-cam, you just might see the change beginning to come into effect. In the meantime, I expect you'll still be making videos like this, pointing out the folly of such outmoded policies, each and every year.
You make such great points, it’s interesting that after I listened to your, fully valid and reasonable rant, another channel I follow posted a video. This guy does tutorials on guitar and not only didn’t he get a strike Dave Navarro sent him a message and video correcting his video! I’m definitely glad most artists get the benefit of the things people like you are doing. Anyway, keep up the great work, love your channel!
I like almost all of your content here, but I absolutely love your rant videos! You've got a talent for it, and you are so right...
Ooh - love it when Rick rants!!
Would love to see you talk about the music of Seals and Crofts. Vastly underrated duo.
I just ordered your 65% off bundle to help support your channel and mainly to learn more about music. I love your channel ❣️.
Rick, It's good to get things off your chest like the content you shared. So much truth and common sense in what you shared. Maybe one day these people will wake up and smell the coffee on how much their really losing out on. In the end like you stated, the older great Artist will just become nonexistent. What a shame that will be. Keep up the great work you and Billy are providing 🥁😎👍
As it has been said... "stupid is as stupid does"....but you, on the other hand, are stone freaking brilliant! Thank you Rick.
Doug Helvering did a rant on his channel (and mentioned you) because he was blocked for doing his analysis of the Genesis album "Nursery Cryme" on the 50th anniversary of its release. Yet, the entire album is unblocked on other channels with no "value added content". I agree channels like yours and Doug's are another avenue for the publishers, record conglomerates and, hopefully, the artists and writers to receive an additional revenue stream by exposure to your loyal viewer base. Copyright laws have had a history of lagging behind the changing paradigms. This is further proof where "fair use", and the interpretation thereof, needs an update and clearer delineation. Soldier on in the name of music education, Rick!
Your videos with or about jazz are greatly appreciated and are entertaining and enjoyable. Thank you, Rick.
Hi Rick,
I first want to thank you for all your labour of love here on UA-cam!
The passion you radiate in this and all your other videos really touches me.
Hopefully the artists and record companies who watch this, and previous videos on this subject, starts to realise that blocking is futile.
They probably are afraid that the sales of physical and digital albums are going down or some other distorted reason.
In the case of Jimi Hendrix and other less contemporary artists you shouldn't be too afraid of them disappearing on the horizon of forgetfulness is that the kids these days still appreciate and recognise great music and lots of them prefer to buy their records, as in Vinyl. Spending my time in many record shops through the years I can safely say that's true. And the general Vinyl sales are even going up compared with a few years ago.
But most of us are lazy and stay with the platforms like Spotify to supply the music. Downside is that the whole albums are not always getting playtime, from the first song till the last, like the artists intended them.
To prevent blocking it could be a possibility for you to try and talk about music and songs, other than theory, in live videos.
Like Sam from Vinyl Junkies is doing.
Vinyl Junkies is a record shop based in Montreal, Canada.
Sam is live every day (!) since Covid started.
He basically is a DJ playing old and new LP's and talking about music and whatever comes in his brilliant, borderless and funny mind live on UA-cam.
Check out his 'Old Man listens to' videos where he listen to a record for the very first time, for example Radiohead's Ok Computer.
P.s. have you ever heard of Motorpsycho?
This Norwegian band is very versatile (Rock, Hard Rock, Prog, Psychedelic & even Country) and productive and could earn some more recognition across the globe.
Great live band and improvisers!
Keep on keeping on Rick!
I'll bet your channel updates will continue longer than 10 years 😀👍🎶
There is a reason why I have never bought a single Jimi Hendrix album although he is by far my favorite musician. I have his entire discography pirated because its extremely clear his sister is one of the greediest persons alive
You can always buy used records and cd's or tapes. None of that goes to anyone except the guy who owns the shop.
@@jeffreycollins7297 Jeffrey is correct. Go to a record shop and buy used copies.
She's not his sister
@@specialsnowflake9097 That makes it even worse.
It's not a good era to make and release music in. Nobody has been able to make a living in the past 20 years. Only kids of rich people "investing in themselves" and buying a career.
Spotify pays US$0.00318c per stream, UA-cam pays wayyy less at US$0.00164c.
It isn't worth making music for that. But you all want to exploit musicians further.
How about doing an 'obscure but awesome' series about great stuff that didn't get any airplay? Luv ya brotha!
Wow! 900! Congratulations!
Rick Beato - The Buckethead of Music ;-)
I'm with You Rick and Thank you for what you've done since now .. Thank you from italy
Well, I remember buying albums last year because I heard music on reaction video's I never heard before and I liked it. And many younger people will discover great music made before they were born, and maybe like it. Just this evening, the Daily Doug had an analysis video blocked, about a song from Nursery Cryme, an early seventies Genesis album. Unbelievable.
Rick, the artists aren’t blocking anything. The corporations that own the publishing rights and want to control their intellectual property are petty enough to see your videos as undermining their authority. It’s always about power, plain and simple.
Rick literally says, that it’s the label or publisher who blocks. Several times even.
@@divisiona3974 As in you can't monetize if u play like more than 30 sec (not sure of exact number) of their songs. Reactions are still allowed
Sometimes it is the artist. If it was the publishers only, they would block everything. Robot Koch monetized my remix himself instead of blocking it. He literally told me that the publishers were going to block it but they asked him as a final verdict. Bigger artist probably don’t want deal with it so then yes the publishers do everything.
@@dazeja True. I think Rick mentioned some individual artists that do this, which is utterly ridiculous. I think they just take a policy to block everything without actually looking at the content of the video.
Prince, he was adimant about it. Since his passing, less so. Don Henley, was that the same hearing that Rick was at before Congress arguing that he was being stolen from.
Just purchased some merchandise to say thank you. I’m turning 50 in January. You give me hope that I can still achieve my musical dreams.
Love ya Rick! Just keep doing what to do! You’re the Best!!
Absolutely right Rick.
1980's really is fourty years old, (hmm, makes me old just thinking of that).
Your persistence in contacting ECM, is impressive.
I think we all agree that any income should go to the original creator
(but NOT the record company, who consistently fail to promote this music).
Most UA-camrs don't mind forgoing, when it benefits the artist.
The record companies are so far out of touch it's beyond embarrassing.
Seen a link of yours: The future of music.
Yep, how are the newer generations ever going to see this wonderful old stuff?
No LP records, CD, DVD, radio, all of the old distribution methods are gone.
The record companies are preaching to the converted,
who are reducing in number... (something to do with age).
Precisely this. ^^^
This channel is such a gem. No other channel quite like it. Or rather, no one does it better. (reminds me of a song). Just want to say to guitarists they should buy the BEATO book. No limit to what you can learn in that thing. I'm 66 and am learning new tricks all the time. Keeps me younger. And I had never heard September Fifteenth, by Methany & Mays, prior to Rick's broadcast, truly one of the most georgeous compositions I've ever heard.
Rick should post on other formats.. Like Rumble
@@wavefchan6766 I don't know much about Rumble, I'll look into it. There definitely needs to be a BIG alternative to UA-cam. I made an independent movie and it was not allowed on UA-cam because a girl under 18 was crying in her room. Jeez, UA-cam, what a stupid company and world these days.
Ditto, my friend...but I am 68, hold my beer....
@@elenbrandt290 Never touch the stuff. Hold my blunt.
@@TheRWE12 The cultural generation divide must be at age 67....
900 vids, HOLY SMOKES! Keep up the good work brother!!!
Just turned 50 for context. I work with a lot of 20 to 40 year olds in a medium sized hospital surgery. We listen to music while the patient is asleep and some surgeries can go on for hours. The younger people I work with don't choose music before 2000 very often. If older music is playing they don't seem to care, but it also seems like they either have never heard it or it's somewhat familiar. So, I'd agree with you as someone outside the music industry, that these bands are burying themselves into obscurity by being so cranky, stingy, and obtuse.
This is just a further extension of record labels losing their grip on artists as more and more go independent and succeed without them. The record labels are dinosaurs and will eventually be extinct. UMG are notorious blockers on our channel. It just forces influencers to go talk about independent artists who have enough sense to not block the free publicity.
Too right. Half of the artists or more that I listen to have either set up their own labels, or gone with an independent.
No one needs the big labels any more, and streaming provides zero income.
WAY better off going your own way with a small independent that will give you a split you can live off rather than being in debt to a major old school label of yesteryear that still thinks they're making profits like it was 1967.
I would have *ZERO* percent reason to listen to many of the music you dissect, if not for you featuring them on your channel. Also, it's completely unfair that you don't get remunerated for content you make, regardless of the inclusion of copyrighted material.
“If no one can talk about the music, how can you pass it on to future generations?”
That’s the point. They want their music to die
Thank you for all you do, Rick.
I thought the copyright law was "life plus 50 years." Wouldn't that mean music from artists like Jimi Hendrix should fall under the same copyright laws as Bach and Beethoven? In other words, anyone can use it without paying royalties?
@@rgoeman9368 Ah. Gotcha.
It used to be much shorter. The problem is Disney. Whenever Mickey Mouse is about to go into public domain, Disney gets Congress to extend the copyright term
Wouldn’t it be the life of the rights holder not the actual artist?
@@misterknightowlandco Well, that would just be forever then. The Beatles owned their music, then Michael Jackson, then Jackson's family or estate....
Rick I see at your videos as educational. I do not see them as a copyright infringement. If it wasn’t because people like you, no one will be talking about music structure and so forth.
Keep doing your wonderful work!
It's not about that, he could easily use copyright free music but that's not the point. The point is that he receives thousands of dollars per stream and he uses this tactics to lure people into donating. This is why he is using on purpose copyrighted material, so he can rant and make live streams to make money from people that do not see beyond his intentions.
The majority of videos that use music aren't copyright infringement instances. It's so ridiculous. These videos only serve to increase revenue for the artist because they result in new fans of the music. Get your heads out of your butts lawyers.
@@nickepic1863 you accusation is ludicrous. Definitely, you are not familiar with Record Label tactics and term such as fair-use in Copyright Act. I am an attorney and I know when someone makes false accusations as yours.
@@musicin2flavors you are definitely not a lawyer, and if you are a lawyer then you are the worse lawyer I saw.
Determining what is transformative-and the degree of transformation-is often challenging, in order for court to accept fair use as a defense you need to have strong transformative quality. And what Rick is doing is not enough to justify a fair use defense.
The less you take, the more likely that your copying will be excused as a fair use. However, even if you take a small portion of a work, your copying will not be a fair use if the portion taken is the “heart” of the work. In other words, you are more likely to run into problems if you take the most memorable aspect of a work. For example, court would never accept fair use defense if you copy the opening guitar riff and the words “I can’t get no satisfaction” from the song “Satisfaction.”
Another important fair use factor is whether your use deprives the copyright owner of income or undermines a new or potential market for the copyrighted work. Depriving a copyright owner of income is very likely to trigger a lawsuit. This is true even if you are not competing directly with the original work.
Claiming fair use doesn’t mean that the work qualifies as a fair use. Only a court can determine that, not you or Beato, only court!
For example, in a case involving a Seinfeld trivia book, the publisher included a disclaimer that the book “has not been approved or licensed by any entity involved in creating or producing Seinfeld.” Despite the disclaimer, the court held that the use of the Seinfeld materials was an infringement, not a fair use.
You see, I know about music business more than you. At the end I have so much connections in the music industry it's ridiculous to even try to attack me like you do. So please stop with that nonsense.
@@nickepic1863 and you still continuing being ludicrous in your arguments.
Judging my trial skills without knowing me, just based your rationale in a post, shows how ignorant and biased you are.
If you want me to teach you about Law, my fees are 750.00 USD an hour. I do not offer free advice nor will go in depth to explain a legal point without falling into the legal advice pitfalls forbidden by MPRE.
Have a good day!
I watched your pat methany vid. And i play jazz radio when i slleep now. It keeps the weird dreams away and its unlike any other music. I cant play it so i just listen and dont try and examine it. Its wonderfull. Thanx for ythe sleep. Im 3 yrs clean and still have drug dreams and this is a blessing. Thank you for that. From the bottom of my heart
It is so wonderful what you do for us in the music community. Thank you :)
Just to clarify, it’s not the artists blocking the videos! UMG, SME, WMG and BMG all have blocking policies however, because the videos are used for educational purposes there’s a claim of Fair Use! Once a legal precedent is established the video will be unblocked! (it’s just algorithms)
So, it's Google's POOR AI that is yet again at fault.
Even my Google Home doesn't recognise my own voice half the time.
Alphabet need to get a grip if this is the quality of their AI. No wonder AWS and smashing them out of the ballpark in the cloud.
Why do they block? They (Eagles, AC DC, Beatles, ECM etc...) don't understand digital music or streaming. They think UA-cam streaming is like Napster. They think viewers are stealing. They don't understand how they (labels and artists) are going to benefit from you promoting their music. Idiots.
I like all the videos I've seen from you. Keep on working the way you do.
Regards from Costa Rica!!!
Great talk, thank you Rick ❤
ECM: "Their catalog includes over 1500 recordings from 40+ years of producing works." Just as you said, good shot. On the blocking, thing, it's the mindset common to the money people. Gee whiz, talk about money people, this very video is being continuously interrupted by cacaphonous noisebombs.
And there's no music on this video. What did they claim?
23 minutes in and there have been five or six ad breaks! Not one note played. Freakin’ ridiculous! Love you Rick! Keep up the good work!
And those ads are at least double the volume. I'm driving along in the car, listening to Rick's usual excellent points when all the sudden a Marvel ad blasts in with a deafening, startling explosion.
Other ads blast in later and I have to reach for the "skip ads" button to stop the racket. If I don't, a second ad starts in. If I turn it down, I can't hear Rick's voice when he finally returns.
Why can they blast the commercials so loudly? Do they think we'll like the product better if we're blasted by it??
3 ads while typing this short post.
First world problem I guess..lol.
It may be UA-cam itself inserting the ads. They changed their policy a year or so ago so that they now can insert ads on videos the creators have chosen not to monetize. The creator still gets no ad revenue (because they didn't monetize it themselves), but UA-cam does.
just get the premium youtube. I been using premium for 2 years now and haven´t dealt with ads since and makes the experience of youtube so much better and fluid. Im not trying to promote it but if you watch most of your content on youtube like i do then it is worth at least considering it.
Let's put it this way: The ending to "Raiders of the Lost Ark," which I hadn't understood as a 17-year-old, makes more sense every day.
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Your rants are always entertaining. I think of the old Crazy Eddies ads, your rants are very subtle and well structured like a speech give in Parliament from a back bencher. Very civil.
Great job Billy! Thank you !
"If we block it they will have to buy it to hear it!"
Or else...they just won't hear it...
Quick question:
Who else is almost scared to click when Rick has _that_ look?
It's like Jedi-level Dad stare.
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that's sad but I get the sense that you're not alone in looking to Beato as a quasi e-Dad father figure.
@@OTR392
Your pseudo-intellectual attempt at low-key trolling is sad.
Bring more bread sticks with you on your next trip through.
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@@eddierayvanlynch6133 looks like I touched a nerve, ouch!
@@OTR392
Those bread sticks won't make themselves!
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Hey Rick, been watching your videos for a long time and watched you struggle through the blocking BS. Not much more to say that I haven't already said, except to say keep on going. Sorry I missed your live stream but it was during working hours where I live.
Amen Rev Rick. Fight the good fight. Love your channel.
Fleetwood Mac are another of those silly old bands that block everything, when they really need their fantastic music exposed to a new generation...
I don't understand what Rick and you mean by blocking. I can search for "ACDC lyrics", "ACDC react", "Fleetwood Mac lyrics", "Fleetwood Mac react", etc and get plenty of videos with "Licensed to UA-cam by ..." in the description.
What is this meaning behind "block everything" or just blocking in general. I don't get it.
@@prezadent1 It means if YOU, or Rick, or anyone else, posts a video containing a particular artists music, that video will get blocked, meaning no one can see it or watch. This happens a lot to Reaction UA-camrs. The videos that aren’t getting blocked are posted by the Record Label or the Music Publisher, etc.
I always look at the videogame industry as a comparison to the music industry and how it should be. Could you imagine if game companies copyright claimed all the youtubers and streamers playing their games? It would still be a niche thing "just for nerds". The gaming industry exploded because the developers embraced streaming and content creation. They realized it was a beneficial symbiotic relationship to growing a community, and games from the 80's and 90's are to this day still played as a result.
I think you are onto something when you talk about “growing a community”, as it pertains to the video game industry. Clearly, that industry gets it and the music industry and also the movie industry clearly don’t. They choose to mothball all this material where guess what, it will all eventually die on the vine.
I had a vintage King Super 20 alto saxophone and always figured I’d be able to sell it cause that’s the same brand of horn played by Cannonball. By the time I wanted to sell it, younger players barely knew who he was. By the same token, there are people in their 30’s who never heard of Elizabeth Taylor or Paul Newman. Greed, closed-mindedness and a lot of thinking that is stuck and stunted. It’s tragic.
Gaijin Entertainment began doing copyright STRIKES on videos that were critizising some points of their games, exploits and hackers. So it exists, but is very uncommon and the height of stupidity.
@@Bogeyatyour6YT If I said "WHO?" that probably tells you everything you need to know about how unpopular that made them amongst gamers.
Five…ten years from now, I will continue to view your content; it’s great, informative and transparent.
Keep on for fighting the good fight Rick!❤️
Literally as you were livestreaming this Doug Helvering released a yt video with a listen through of Nursery Cryme by Genesis, except it was blocked, copyright struck (wont name the site but it was the name of first dog in space), he offered to de mo net tise (not sure that word is allowed) but they wouldnt allow him to do that. Genesis seem to normally be ok, theres a lot of content on yt.
Came here because of this very thing!
How bout instead of "What makes this song great" you do one called "Let's make this song great"... sorta comb through some amateur song constructs and pick them apart instrument by instrument to improve the submitted draft and juxtapose it to the updated re-recorded/re-produced piece. That would be pretty cool, although probably a real pain in the a$$ - Love the channel btw
The daily doug had the same issue today. What are the labels thinking?
The avarice with which these people operate never ceases to amaze me. But then again, that mindset reflects the society we live in.
Hey Rick,
In the last year or two, ECM finally made their catalog available to most of the streaming services. It was a long time coming.
For streaming, I subscribe to UA-cam Music, the paid service. A key perk is that you receive ad free You Tube video’s. Love it!
The copy right crap continues. Often, I make playlists and then all of a sudden, the song or video is blocked. Yep, it sucks but little is going to change.
My uncle’s brother, also a guitarist, was a dear friend of Joe Pass (alaqua). One time, he brought Joe Pass to my Mom’s house for a traditional Italian Sunday afternoon dinner. I was already a fan but lived out of state. When I heard about it after the fact, I could not believe it and that I was not there.
Loved your Sting / Dom and Pat interviews. Keep ‘em coming!
They like to shoot themselves in the foot. I got a manual Block on one of my Eagles Videos. Take down was from RIAA. So I took down the other Eagles Video. All my vids are claimed so I don't make any money. And the money they make on the Eagles Vidoes has now stopped. Good for them.
"Oh wait a minute! Free advertisements and essentially a five-star critical review from someone highly respected in the music industry?! Hell no, we don't want that at all! No way Jose!! We must bring in the legal guns, bring in the pedants. Let's be morons about it."
This is what too much of the white stuff does to your brain, evidently.
Any other business would be lining up for this kind of quality publicity.
When you mention an artist that sounds interesting to me I end up listening to them on Spotify or buying the CD. I'm not a huge Jazz person but I've been listening to Bill Evans Undercurrent ever since you talked about it a couple of months ago. I never would have learned of it had it not been for your video.
Keep up the good hard work, Mr. Rick 👍