These tractors and the implements that can be hooked up behind them make this kind of work seem effortless at times. It’s pretty amazing if you ask me.
Kinze did it right. Seeing that degelman made the best version of this tillage tool its smart for them to do their partnership. Kinze and degelman together means the toughest, simplest machine with a great dealer network and customer service. Great video btp!!
Very impressive machine. Back in my day, we never had anything that could have tilled that soil with that residue. Too wet for a standard disk, too much trash for a cultivator or a drag. At least that's how it looks. The Mach Till really throws the soil, airing and fluffing it very effectively. Plus the HP needed to use that machine really shows how times have changed. Today's agriculture doesn't allow the luxury of giving an extra day or two to dry. The modern equipment allows tilling in what used to be less than ideal conditions. That's my take on it. Great video, Jason.
I understand that it is a"high speed" implement but my goodness take it easy on the deere. The center pins will fall out before the day is over if he keeps hitting washouts at 10 mph
Have to agree with you, I have tried the high speed implements out and there HELL on tractors, and HELL on the operators. We will not use them on our farm.
Looks like some soil conservation work would be helpful there with a grass waterway, instead of letting all that topsoil wash down the river to New Orleans.
Really liked the video. That high speed tillage really covers ground fast. I can remember seeing farmers from back home using disc harrows for tillage and it was a lot slower. I would venture to say if that farm had one of those John Deere 9RX or CaseIH Quadtracs, they would cover ground a little bit faster because of the tracks.
Yes it is. Normally the wash out would not be too bad but they had 64 inches of rain in the year with most of it in the fall. Most farms here work on waters ways each fall but with many fields you can only do so many at a time.
Y’all don’t even know what I’d give to just set behind the wheel of these massive machines. The “big” tractor on our farm is a 130hp John Deere 6715. I love what I get to do, but to drive one of those monsters would be amazing
Two points: First, the video talks a lot about filling gullies with the equipment. Gullies like those in the video show that this farmer is not within the conservation compliance rules of the "Farm Program." And second, tillage is not erosion control. the only way to control gullies like these on a farm is to plant grass waterways where the water washed year after year.
Eric Imerman you make a good point. However, filling them in with the disc does allow you to successfully plant your crop through the washout. It’s no as good as a grass waterway, but might be sufficient in normal years
They do but you can’t get to every field in a year to get a permeant water way in. They take time and investment to build. Normally you would see some wheat planted on these points but it was too wet in the fall to drill after beans.
I wonder if we seen a slow motion of this. It looks to me at that crazy speed that the soil been lifted by the first gang disk is flying over the second one and that soil is pretty moist , what if it were much dryer.
I have filmed a few Pro Tills and this Kinze version. They do a great job. I have not observed any issues with the dirt going to far. The angle of the blades mixes soil and residue well. I works like a regular disk but faster and with ease rolling over stones because each blade is separate.
Nothing. Farms terrace and build water ways on spots like these but with many acres you can not get them all at once. If the previous fall had been less wet they would have drilled some wheat on a spot like this to prevent run off but it stayed to wet to drill seed.
Water is gonna wash dirt. That is just how it is ... Water will flow downwards, either in the field where it is a natural drain or if they level that area, and maybe take away the top soil and ruin part of the field or not, that water is gonna run somewhere and wash out somewhere. You just wanna control the washing and maybe even capture the washed dirt but again, water is gonna wash dirt.
Not-a-farmer-here: At about 7:35 : Should always Mach-Till traveling uphill to fix the gully/washout. Shouldn't bring down the terrain more by tilling in the direction of the flow
He's going along the way the wash runs to make it easier to cross when he does the rest of the field. Next, then going across the wash the opposite direction, same direction as the rows run (or the way he is plowing the field) will help fill it in more. Then, once it is planted, the crop and the rows of the crop will help hold the soil in place BUT since that wash is a natural drain for the rainwater that falls on the ground, he'll probably have to cut a furrow across that low spot OR the crop will die there due to excessive water standing there.
I love your videos and I've commented on this before, but please be careful, you stand right in front of equipment and hardly get out of the way. One mis-step and you're a goner.
Best get out of that "x copied x" mentality, they are all slowly becoming the same. You don't look towards specific brands these days, it's all about parts availability and which dealer you can get along with. Also, Kinze and Degalman had a deal where they allow Kinze to sell their product under their brand and color. No need to copy if you can make a deal to sell it in a different color.
Yeah they need to leave a Waterway instead of going through and tearing up the Waterway so that they can have some erosion and then they b**** because the soil is running away
With a short or compact disk you want to run 10 mph to produce a good seed bed in one pass. That is what they are built for. This 410 hp tractor could not run a 40ft model. In this ground a 33ft model is all a 620 hp tractor would want. These are heavy duty models.
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These tractors and the implements that can be hooked up behind them make this kind of work seem effortless at times. It’s pretty amazing if you ask me.
Kinze did it right. Seeing that degelman made the best version of this tillage tool its smart for them to do their partnership. Kinze and degelman together means the toughest, simplest machine with a great dealer network and customer service. Great video btp!!
Agreed. Out of all the high speed tillage tools I’ve seen, nothing seems to do as well as the Mach till-protill
Nellson Stout Lemken makes good units too. Not quite as heavy built as Degelman but still a good unit.
Very impressive machine. Back in my day, we never had anything that could have tilled that soil with that residue. Too wet for a standard disk, too much trash for a cultivator or a drag. At least that's how it looks. The Mach Till really throws the soil, airing and fluffing it very effectively. Plus the HP needed to use that machine really shows how times have changed. Today's agriculture doesn't allow the luxury of giving an extra day or two to dry. The modern equipment allows tilling in what used to be less than ideal conditions. That's my take on it. Great video, Jason.
Thanks BTP for making videos in these social distancing months
These high speed disc are really neat.
They do a great job.
I understand that it is a"high speed" implement but my goodness take it easy on the deere. The center pins will fall out before the day is over if he keeps hitting washouts at 10 mph
Have to agree with you, I have tried the high speed implements out and there HELL on tractors, and HELL on the operators. We will not use them on our farm.
Fixing that gully wouldn't have been possible with a lesser tractor in that short of time/passes. Great work done !
Your videos are great just keep up the good work always appreciate your videos
Looks like some soil conservation work would be helpful there with a grass waterway, instead of letting all that topsoil wash down the river to New Orleans.
That was my question.
Are those wash out areas just going to continue to wash out?
It’s agricultural, waterways would be too much work.
Great video Jason, thanks
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:32 "hang on, every one of my fillings just fell on the floor"
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That button on top of your hat may have been felt on that bump 😂😂
Tracks would be ideal for that hi speed tillage I'm guessing. Minimizes the dents in your head from hitting the roof when going across ditches.
Track machines are rougher than tires. 🧐
It’s too wet here for that right now... I can’t wait till it dries out!
Fresh loose topsoil in the hole ready to be washed away with the next rain.
This KINZE 261 MACH TILL is doing a great job.
That is awesome!
Ironically today is Jon Kinzebaums 76th birthday
Well. Happy Birthday. Very cool.
Boy that is one tough machine.
Nice work !
Really liked the video. That high speed tillage really covers ground fast. I can remember seeing farmers from back home using disc harrows for tillage and it was a lot slower. I would venture to say if that farm had one of those John Deere 9RX or CaseIH Quadtracs, they would cover ground a little bit faster because of the tracks.
Hell yeah bubba🍻
Fast tillage.
Would have loved to have seen a camera view from in the gully as the tractor passed overtop. That would have been cool.
Yes but then I might lose the camera 😱
They had blue MachTills sitting at the Degelman factory in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada when I drove past last week
Great awesome video
Good spot for a grass waterway
Yes it is. Normally the wash out would not be too bad but they had 64 inches of rain in the year with most of it in the fall. Most farms here work on waters ways each fall but with many fields you can only do so many at a time.
Y’all don’t even know what I’d give to just set behind the wheel of these massive machines. The “big” tractor on our farm is a 130hp John Deere 6715. I love what I get to do, but to drive one of those monsters would be amazing
Thanks BTP. Nice work with that JD and Kinsey (sp?). Love the power and speed.
Thanks for watching. The Kinze does a good job.
Very nice piece of equipment! Thanks again for sharing!
Thank you for watching.
Smooth ride
Very impressive till
Awesome Video Buddy!!
The washouts are really bad, but the kinze does a nice job👍
Seems like a good tool to maybe eliminate a pass w/an incorporator followed by a finisher cultivator.
Increadable machine! Needs a couple of intake terraces.
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Great video btp
Two points: First, the video talks a lot about filling gullies with the equipment. Gullies like those in the video show that this farmer is not within the conservation compliance rules of the "Farm Program." And second, tillage is not erosion control. the only way to control gullies like these on a farm is to plant grass waterways where the water washed year after year.
Eric Imerman you make a good point. However, filling them in with the disc does allow you to successfully plant your crop through the washout. It’s no as good as a grass waterway, but might be sufficient in normal years
Why not put in waterways for better soil conservation?
They do but you can’t get to every field in a year to get a permeant water way in. They take time and investment to build. Normally you would see some wheat planted on these points but it was too wet in the fall to drill after beans.
I got to say that’s pretty impressive Cleanup the wash out As fast as it did Definitely worth the price
Frog ponds with risers.
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I wonder if we seen a slow motion of this.
It looks to me at that crazy speed that the soil been lifted by the first gang disk is flying over the second one and that soil is pretty moist , what if it were much dryer.
I have filmed a few Pro Tills and this Kinze version. They do a great job. I have not observed any issues with the dirt going to far. The angle of the blades mixes soil and residue well. I works like a regular disk but faster and with ease rolling over stones because each blade is separate.
Would love to ride along
Not-a-farmer-here: Those notched blades/discs appear to be about 3/8th -1/2inch worn at about 4:37
Now stake some square bales across that gully in few spots,save your topsoil
If it washed out once before what’s to prevent it from happening again?
Nothing. Farms terrace and build water ways on spots like these but with many acres you can not get them all at once. If the previous fall had been less wet they would have drilled some wheat on a spot like this to prevent run off but it stayed to wet to drill seed.
Water is gonna wash dirt. That is just how it is ... Water will flow downwards, either in the field where it is a natural drain or if they level that area, and maybe take away the top soil and ruin part of the field or not, that water is gonna run somewhere and wash out somewhere. You just wanna control the washing and maybe even capture the washed dirt but again, water is gonna wash dirt.
Wouldn't deep ripping the wet and gully areas in the fall move that moisture underground. Conserving it for the spring?
Not-a-farmer-here: At about 7:35 : Should always Mach-Till traveling uphill to fix the gully/washout. Shouldn't bring down the terrain more by tilling in the direction of the flow
He's going along the way the wash runs to make it easier to cross when he does the rest of the field. Next, then going across the wash the opposite direction, same direction as the rows run (or the way he is plowing the field) will help fill it in more. Then, once it is planted, the crop and the rows of the crop will help hold the soil in place BUT since that wash is a natural drain for the rainwater that falls on the ground, he'll probably have to cut a furrow across that low spot OR the crop will die there due to excessive water standing there.
That looks so fun to watch!
Edit: who was the first company to start producing the high speed tillers?
I would have thought it required more power than that to pull that disk. It looks like that 9410R is working to pull it but I guess not.
How does this Kinze model compare to the John Deere 2680H?
Leaves it smooth don't it
It sure does.
I love your videos and I've commented on this before, but please be careful, you stand right in front of equipment and hardly get out of the way. One mis-step and you're a goner.
kinze is the first company to copy the deglman and admint it
They actually are an authorized manufacturer of that tool in the United States for Degelman. It's the same tool as the Canadian version just blue!
I think Degalman made a deal with Kinze to produce them because they couldn't keep up with demand
@@leesteele9290 yeah but what about the one john deere case ih versatile and i think there is a couple more that copied the degalman
Best get out of that "x copied x" mentality, they are all slowly becoming the same. You don't look towards specific brands these days, it's all about parts availability and which dealer you can get along with.
Also, Kinze and Degalman had a deal where they allow Kinze to sell their product under their brand and color. No need to copy if you can make a deal to sell it in a different color.
How much heat in the disks from the higher speed?
Why does many big american tractors have such narrow tires? I understand why planter/fertalizer tractors have them but a tillage tractor?
What part of Western KY? I grew up in Muhlenburg county.
You should find a John Deere 4440 doing corn planting
Cash Bawden hes got a 4840 with a 16 row
That sprayer track on the headland was a good speed bump eh.
Why do I have to keep subscribing?
Degelman,Kinze,JD, CaseIH,Versatile they all make about the same product
Not quite but pretty much, then case and john deere add another 30 to 40 thousand dollars for the paint and decals
Yeah they need to leave a Waterway instead of going through and tearing up the Waterway so that they can have some erosion and then they b**** because the soil is running away
a quad track would be better for going that fast.
Why do you say the tractor size number like that. Why don’t you just say 9410 John Deere and not a 9-4-10 John Deere
I see Johnny Deere hasn't fixed there balance ratio yet.. Been that way forever... spent many many hours in them overrated Gems over the years..
Wow...you'e my hero...and an agricultural equipment designer to boot...impressive...
Lord help the guy that buys that 4wd used 😑
Subtitulado en español....pleace!!!
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But bouncy before the field was worked over.
Always seems like too much tractor for 26' - why not 40' at 5 MPH - some math there somewhere.
Those are designed to work at those speeds. If you only pulled it at 5 mph you wouldn't get the soil movement you want.
With a short or compact disk you want to run 10 mph to produce a good seed bed in one pass. That is what they are built for. This 410 hp tractor could not run a 40ft model. In this ground a 33ft model is all a 620 hp tractor would want. These are heavy duty models.
Going at that speed is just equipment abuse, If he was working for me I’m afraid we would have words. 👎
This unit is based the same thing as a Degelman Pro Till, they are designed to work best at speeds 8-13mph. If you don’t know, you don’t know.
@@davidlogel2350 Thanks Dav for the reply.
The operator is pulling the equipment through his backside.If he is the owner his closure of business sale will be anounced soon
MOIST!!!
He didn't say "Shloppy."
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Thank you for your enthusiasm I hope you enjoy the video.
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