Jocko Podcast 261 w Steve Ward: Learning Does Not Stop. Ever. Life and Leadership
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
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0:00:00 - Opening
0:07:45 - SEAL Master Chief, Steve Ward
3:01:14 - Final thoughts and take-aways.
3:20:33 - How to stay on THE PATH.
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3:47:46 - Closing Gratitude
Jocko, I respect all the things you do. I’ve found a lot of value in your books and podcasts. Obviously everyone has their side of a story. I have to wonder what your take is on Eddie Gallagher and how Steve Ward played into it. Eddie’s interview with Shawn Ryan was pretty powerful and from his side this man abandoned him. I would also like to hear Steve’s side of it.
If you’ve ever been in the military you’ll realize when someone from up top comes down and says hey we aren’t gonna associate with this dude and protect the organization then you don’t. You comply by any means necessary. If Ward had tried to protect Gallagher he would’ve faced retribution inside the SEAL Teams and big Navy who was also hot on the case. At the end of the day that’s why no one went to bat for him because this isn’t the Civilian world where you get freedom of speech. The UCMJ is very clear and if they disobeyed those orders they faced punishment. Gallagher has a right to feel abandoned obviously because he was by his own brothers and what happened to him shouldn’t have ever happened at all - but he self admitted he wasn’t the best leader in the world ether and that’s could also be another factor of why guys didn’t go to bat for him. Ward who just took on those roles more or less did the right thing and what he was told. Eddie wether you believed it or not was facing War Criminal charges and when you’re guilty till proven innocent you cut those ties there. The only people to blame the entire incident on are the SEALs who made/crafted the false allegations and there’s no reason why civilians or non team guys should be trying to bash seasoned NSW guys like you see in comments and Reddit threads because they did what they were told and left Eddie out to dry wether right or wrong. Also I mean you’re right Eddies side is the only side out there and there’s no telling if his side is 100% the truth ether compared to his central command and platoon mates that were over seas with him. Jokos podcast is also indicative of the types of military guys he has on compared to Shawn Ryan who’s has said he’s largely stepped away from the teams altogether. Then you have guys like Mike Ritland who are pretty in the middle of it.
On top of all that you can watch Wards NCIS interviews which Eddie frames him as being a liar but they only thing in his interview he can’t recall is the JAG officer he talked to who was then Currently at Group 1 but the investigator tells him it couldn’t have been her as she was in Korea. Then he stumbles which he could’ve easily just made a mistake. Prior to that Ward explains basically he got the petty theft complaints and more that it was a growing group of people thus having to make the hard call to go ahead and pull SC and billet and wait on an leadership. Then once that group of guys realized he would be reinstated concocted the murder allegation which was reported in that January.
@@mcbruin7774 Thanks for taking the time to write that, it helps me make a little more sense of that whole terrible situation.
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No Jocko, the best job in the world is having the honor to care for those of you who have served. I've been a physician for 24 years, the last 5 of which I've been blessed to work for the VA. Every day, it has been an honor and a pleasure to care for Veterans, and to look them in the eye and tell them how much I appreciate their service. Happy New Year, and thank you, sir.
Merry Christmas everyone. God bless and stay safe.
Merry Christmas Evan
You too brother
Merry Christmas!!
Gg man
To you too! :) "God bless us, everyone!" - I watched too many Christmas movies lol
I got to say this is by far the best content on this shit hole they call UA-cam. My father was a lifetime soldier and I’ve always considered myself a patriot.My father passed a couple years ago but listening to you gentlemen reminds me so much of him and his stories. God bless gentleman
The world around us changes all the time. The moment we stop learning we fall behind
How do you learn tho? Ask why over and over? I never understood what it means to learn.
Mate, how do we win this current war?
@@JACKSPARROW-iy7rw by rebelling. Hiding wont bore this virus to the point it decides to wither away and die. We are using a foolish tactic.
True definition of growth and development we learn something new about life everyday.
Hmm. Just finished watching the Shawn Ryan Show podcast with Eddie Gallagher..... There is a whole other picture painted of Steve Ward over there!
Its probably safe to say Eddie will never be on the Jocko podcast.
Especially now that Steve may work for Echelon Front we won’t see Eddie Gallagher. I’m sure that’s all he’s gonna be asked about
Eddie talks about Steve Ward and Jason Gardner so I’m sure there is no chance he’s on Jockos podcast.
“Hell Yeah, I’ll do that!” - Steve Ward. The answer to success when opportunity presents itself.
I understand there’s always two sides to a story. I wasn’t there so I don’t know. What I do know is Eddie Gallagher was found innocent.
I’m not jumping to any conclusions because I haven’t heard Steve’s side. I would genuinely be open to hearing what he has to say when it comes to all the events that transpired. As of now I’m still team Eddie.
Keep an open mind. Facts are facts, it's our perspective that can change.
@@emptyness2583
I’m willing to keep an open mind if Steve decides he wants to tell his side. At least I think I am. So far the only info I have to work with is Eddie’s side and the court ruling.
He was acquitted not found innocent.
@@CSpad Does this comment section read like it can tell the difference between these two things?
This psychopath is innocent like OJ Simpson is innocent! Lol you people have selective truths you believe in. The guy was sick and his head but I'm sure a lot of guys are that spend enough time over there. To hear you all twisting in a ball to try to pretend he's innocent is hilarious though
Just listened to eddie gallagher on shawn ryans podcast, is this the same Group 1 MC Steve Ward that denied him E-8.. and tried to pull his trident?? LOL Great leadership skills
Are you being sarcastic lol
@@BostonsF1nest lmao very
@@RsVectal he was probably feeling pressured from his superiors to side with the team instead of the individual. I agree tho- bad move. Eddie more than deserved that rank, especially for his family financially moving forward. And even if he was guilty... who gives a fuck about some terrorist bomb maker ?
Yeah Eddie Gallagher didn’t paint this guy in a good light.
same dude, in steve's defense maybe he never heard the phrase "innocent until proven guilty" ... smdh
Just put two and two together and realized Steve Ward was the MC who refused to speak with Eddie G. Interesting.
Seems like someone you want to take “leadership” advice from huh
He talked to eddies parents and by what eddie has said told his parents if you knew what we knew you would want your son in prison for life, not somebody that i would want in a leadership role
@@KGo2638 most corporate leaders would not hesitate to throw a subordinate overboard as soon as they become become expandable.
So MC Ward would fit right in.
Its why the bosses who standby their employees are so special.
Feels like that whole situation with Gallagher broke the SEALs community a bit. Exposed a glitch in the command and esprit de corps. What happens when SEALs are forced to oppose each other? All of that loyalty combined with people who won't quit and won't back down seems to have resulted in the pack turning on a member.
I totally understand that both of these men had incredibly high leadership positions within the seal teams. And despite the books & podcasts that’s out there for everyone to get insight to the teams, there’s still a certain level of responsibility to not reveal the behind the scenes dirt that may paint much of the teams in a bad light. But with that said, it’s an indictment on Steve and even those that Jocko used to work with that they made no mention whatsoever of this scandal or maybe even tried to explain their position and bring to light why they made the decisions that they made. Because by not saying anything about the Gallagher scandal, it makes Steve and the rest of leadership appear like they did play politics and completely turned their back on a brother, instead of taking the position that Eddie is innocent until proven guilty.
Except that they obviously feel he’s guilty......but was pardoned (which doesn’t prove innocence).
Eddie is innocent like OJ Simpson is innocent.
@@ronaldcaudle7167 so correct me if I’m wrong, but he didn’t get a pardon. He got intense support from the president to allow him access to a fair trial and fight the case. A case that he fought and was found innocent. A jury found him innocent. During the course of the lead up to the trial and the trial itself the prosecutor had to be removed from the case for illegal spying. Then during the trial another seal, one of the four accusers, admitted to the main charge that they were trying to lay on Eddie. So I don’t think he got a pardon at all. And one of the guys that accused him of something eventually told the truth and admitted guilt and Eddie was found not guilty on every charge except taking the photograph. So if you’re upset about him taking a photograph then I think you’re grabbing at straws. Not only is that not that big of a deal but we are talking about him taking a photo next to a deceased ISIS fighter. A fighter that would happily cut your head and Eddie’s head off one after the next and film it for your families to see. So I don’t care very much that Eddie posed for a photograph.
@@natrone23 so I’ve never served. Nor am I an expert on law or even this case. But which of the accused crimes do you think he’s guilty for? The murder of an isis fighter that someone else confessed wasnt Eddie. Or the 2 murders they tried to tack on later on and couldn’t bring any evidence to prove. Or are you upset about a photograph that he took? Personally I don’t see posing for a photograph making you a war criminal.
@@ronaldcaudle7167 and the higher up the chain of command you go in the military you go, the lines get blurred and it becomes very political. As it does in DC, In law enforcement, in labor unions & any other organizations where positions are appointed and those positions bring better salaries and prestige. So I got to imagine that very few, if any, believe he was guilty of what he was accused, or view him as a war criminal or a bad seal. I just believe they got their marching orders from the very top. Secretary of the navy and a top admiral or two, don’t like a bad news story and told the top chiefs exactly what they wanted and they carried out their wishes. And to preserve their own careers, they turned their back on a brother. They could have at least backed the guy to some degree OR played it totally neutral and allow the process to play out with him being presumed as innocent until proven guilty in court. Instead he was shunned by a community that he all but gave his life for. A guy with a decorated career. Sailor of the year. Incredibly high grades for being a great chief. Turned the worst platoon into the best platoon. I don’t think a guy like that would have lasted this long and thrived as he did and rose through the ranks as he did, if he was a monster. Only for the seal community to allow him to rise to become someone with a spotlight on him snd the community and then that’s when they decide “ok now we have to take him down and get rid of him”. This doesn’t make any sense. Between the politics that gets played at the top of these organizations and the fact that a group of his peers found him not guilty, I don’t see how we can continue to not see him as an innocent man. Maybe he was a hard boss and expected a lot out of his men. So maybe he was perceived as a hard ass and jerk off. Maybe you can feel him posing for a photo was unprofessional. But I can’t at all see how he’s a war criminal.
The parts with Ward including Echo 2:56:48 Steve does that a number of times throughout this interview. There are a lot of people out there who interview or get interviewed and turn their blinders on. They don't really acknowledge any one but the main figure they're talking to. Steve doesn't do that at all here. That's says a lot about his character. A very inclusive guy. That's a great leadership trait.
Humble Leader. Thank you for your 28 years of honorable service and dedication to four west coast SEAL Teams and our nation. You have exceeded expectations of this great country and lead the charge for ALL men and women under your tutelage. May God continue to bless you and be with our brave men on the battlefield. PSALM 91; ISAIAH 14:27
Ryan Long - “finally, a Jocko episode for the boys.....”
This is the cat that just turned his back on Gallagher.
Pardon my ignorance? I'm not sure of who that is would you be able to to point me in the right direction on where to gather this information?
@@theechromedome Look up Eddie’s recent interview on vigilance elite. It’s like 5 hours or so explaining everything from his side.
I appreciate Jocko having this seal on though.
@@lskatepopwar5596 Thank you I'll be watching that. I appreciate your time.
Steve Ward is a good man and had a fantastic reputation in the Teams. You would have to look pretty hard to find someone else to bad mouth him.
@@gard5jason it’s amazing how they want jocks to start drama on here! Hope all is well Master Chief
This was such interesting discourse🙏 your content is inspiring Jocko
Good morning Reyna
Good morning my queen over 18
@@JW-28 LMAO. You watch YMH?
3.16.50 is the time stamp where he admits he will destroy anything that tries to hurt the reputation of the teams they should pull this guys trident
Caught that. Jocko said "you do anything you can to protect the reputation" is bullshit. You can't protect reputation at the expense of integrity. You need to have some fucking integrity. The mission is fluid but you cannot shit on people to "protect the community".
Jocko finally did a Interview. You can totally see the work relationship these Man have. I guarantee there are Men Alive because of the Strong Training they were able to provide..Together.
People talking about Eddie and talking about how the Eddie situation wasn't brought up on this podcast.
The people that Eddie has named and shamed will NEVER publicly talk about it. We will never hear the 'other side' of the story. Eddie called them out and they know they were in the wrong, therefore they won't bring it up EVER.
The silence is deafening!
Or illuminating
This is the guy who turned his back on Eddie Gallagher
How did he turn his back?
Not supporting either side on this - just looking for data points.
@@MStockDesign Watch Eddie Gallagher on Vigilance elite recently or on the cleared hot podcast to get some info.
Steve Ward is a good man and had a fantastic reputation in the Teams.
Steve Ward did the right thing.
I only know what’s public info (I.e. podcasts and stuff) so this is just my opinion. But it seems to me that NCIS and the accusers did everything in their power to paint Eddie Gallagher as a monster from the very start. They were very successful at doing this and I would imagine that a lot of team guys must have thought “well they wouldn’t be going to such great lengths if this weren’t true.” And then the more mainstream a belief becomes (in this case, the belief that Chief Gallagher was a monster), the easier it is to believe. I’m not trying to make excuses or cast judgement or anything. Just my thoughts on why things may have turned out the way they did.
WONDERFUL session, sir. Thank you very much for this. and yes, CONGRATULATIONS to your whole team for 1M Subscribers. Many many LOVE and RESPECT for the whole team and its works.
Learn everyday. If you think you know everything, you’ve already lost.
How do you learn tho? Ask why over and over? I never understood what it means to learn.
@@JohnDoe-qq8et if you don’t know what it means to learn. No-one can’t help you.
@@JohnDoe-qq8et you must first have an open mind and be willing to challenge things you already know.
I think a lot of people say learning is important but don't necessarily know how to go about doing it and really fall short in teaching how its done.
@@JohnDoe-qq8et basically you got a question ask? Don't be shy and always be willing to try
Merry Christmas Jocko and Echo!! 🎄
You made it to 1million subscribers! 💪
Love that we are all listening to an amazing man!
Great story about you love being in Seal Teams, protecting America against all enemies, Merry Christmas to you Jocko and Echo
Hats off to Steve from boatswain mate to Operator.
Hey Jocko! Thanks brother. Thank you so much.
From a Marine to a SEAL...God bless you and your men for your sacrifice. Long time listener of your podcast and men like you are a dying breed! Merry Christmas to you Jocko and Echo! Rah!
Great podcast! One of my favorites!
Merry Xmas
I have watched about four maybe five JW podcasts now.
I find the work done here with this show extremely commendable.
Not only giving back to those hit by the pains of war the respect and courage that belongs to them.
But showing the fortitude that lies within the light of liberty.
Honours to all involved here.
The best of new years to you
Merry Christmas 🎄 Jocko & Team
You badass men have made your country proud!! Thank you
I was calling Ward for backup in 92 in San Ysidro during what seemed like 6 vs.100 TJ gang trying to get back to that San Dog border.😆
Pool comp ....
"I FEEL FINE.... "
You did not look comfortable......
Thank you gentlemen.
Top tier podcast here.
Good evening Echo
In reference to "proof reading" what you write, use MS Word's text to speech option. Listen to the document being read to you by the computer.
It really helps improve your writing.
Wish I could like this podcast more than once
well theres a lot of uploads, go after em'
True, we only know one side of the story but Jocko and his company always rave about leadership. Wouldn't a good leader try to clear this up, especially the allegation about what SW told Eddie Gallagher's parents? Granted, both podcasts came out on the same day but if SW remains silent on this I don't think it'll reflect positively on him. Killing ISIS savages is considered a war crime?! I believe Jocko himself referred to them as savages in an interview. Chain of command, of which SW was a part, kept pushing for that trial.
Both NCIS and the Pentagon took some corrective actions in regards to the NCIS agents and the prosecution involved. The same machine that painted one man as a monster then, once the case failed, forced some agents into retirement ..
Also another SEAL(who was one of Eddie's accusers) admitted to killing the ISIS prisoner himself during trial.
People keep bringing up this charge without bothering to investigate its outcome in court.
Eddie has also since revealed that 2 of his accusers visited him in the brig. To basically apologize and admit that they had concocted a story and it got out of hand - after things were escalated to the NCIS.
jocko please get david goggins on i wanna see u guys talk
A lot of people have suggested this but from what I’ve heard and read, it just wouldn’t make sense. Goggins is incredibly motivated and works hard towards individual accomplishments. Jocko is team/leadership oriented. I don’t think their personalities would mesh and he just might not be a good fit for this particular podcast. Nothing at all against Goggins, he’s done incredible things. But that’s what the general word around the street is, plus I’ve heard Goggins had a strained relationship with many of the other SEALs. I just don’t think it’s likely we’ll ever see him on here.
@@firstnamelastname9444 good point bro. thank u for that theyre both badass people
Merry Christmas Jocko and Echo.🎄
Echo: I don’t understand why you kiss your manifold.
Jocko: because those are the procedures.🤣
Love your podcast guys!
Merry Christmas from Brazil. 🇧🇷
Dudes! Much love. Navy vet, Hospital Corpsman.
The day we stop learning is our last day on earth.
Thanks for the life lessons. Old dogs can learn new tricks!
Merry Christmas Jocko & Echo!
How do you learn tho? Ask why over and over? I never understood what it means to learn.
@@MM-eo2oz Thats like a person asking how to do trigonometry and being told to learn more about math and logic.
3:44:26 thank you everyone at eschalon frint, black swa, joe rogan, steve, dave, some of the crew, glover, and everyone who makes life better by being in it healthy, happy and wise....
West Sac!! Shakey’s, jumping off the bridge by the port, HondaHills and Whitey’s.
Jocko I strongly suggest cutting it into under 30mins parts, it would be easier to watch parts instead of remembering when you stopped watching it last time
Great podcast btw as always
Throw “Navy SEAL Master Chief” in the title and this gets over 100k views
Definitely
'Navy Seal Steve Ward, that turned his back on fellow seal"
Would get WAY more views. Truth sells
This training is so powerful thank you so much 🙌
Merry Christmas to everyone.
Before anyone watches this, please go listen to the Eddie Gallagher interview so you can learn about the real Steve Ward. This dude left another seal out to dry.
how so? And dont just say watch the interview. I did. I dont see how he left him out to dry.
@@hammerstein5012 He could have supported him but just like every other seal in the chain of command, he turned his back on him. Fuck that guy. His service to our country is for naught if he cant protect the people in his command.
@@all4bspinnin311 I would like to hear the other side of it. There is a lot of stuff you should and shouldnt do when there is a murder investigation going on.
CRAZY They both dropped the same time, strange??
@@hammerstein5012 very true but the investigation is over. He was acquitted. The Navy still tried to come after him afterwards to take his trident. Go check out the interview he did. Its long but worth it
Great podcast. On the closing “notes”. It scares me to have to rely on Florida for anything. If you live in Florida please fucking clear the shelves so we can get this Jocko fuel in Tennessee.
You can stop learning when the world stops changing.
How do you learn tho? Ask why over and over? I never understood what it means to learn.
I see you homie. We watch many of the same youtubers. Peace.
The more I learn, the less I know.
If I had a dollar for every time steve says "yeah", I'd be watching this video from a Bora Bora beach house right now
Semper Fidelis
Awesome story
thank you echo etc etc
Good morning Echo
"Seaman Training" had me dying 🤣🤣 I'm childish 😅
Where were his leadership skills when Chief Gallagher needed him..??
Man I just listened to Shawn Ryans podcast with Eddie and it dawned on me when I saw his name in the title "Steve Ward". Also has anyone else ever noticed that Jocko and the dudes from TNQ and Vigilance Elite have never had each other on their podcasts? Like Marcus Luttrell or Shawn Ryan? Idk it just seems like there is a divide? I am probably wrong but it's something I've noticed.
@@nickelliott7327 I was thinking the same. I think Jocko is more about transitioning what he brings form the SEALS to how it can help in all aspects of life and business. The others seem to just enjoy sharing their "war" stories. I could be wrong. Either way, I enjoy listening to all
@@nickelliott7327 Same here. I commented on this yesterday.
@@michaell31 If the way Steve Ward did Eddie Gallagher is accurate??? Then he is a shit leader and not worth having in a company designed to teach and promote leadership and discipline.
@@jamesgunnyreed3792Ward even looks like a weasely fcking bootlicker. The fact that the Gallagher situation isn’t even addressed in this podcast, takes Jocko down a few pegs in my book.
Jocko, Steve, thanks for sharing this. Could someone please tell me what the A-Dubbs weapon is?
Steve ward “yeah,yeah,wow,yeah,yeayeah
The more I learn, the less I know.
Tu Lam next please.
"Work hard every single day, stay out of trouble, and, be a good and decent person." Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON) Mike Stevens
Deck department hooyah to that boatswain mate here
Is the SEAL drama men’s version of all the drama TV women like?
Another good episode. Thank you sir.
Awesome to get another member of the EF team on here!
What a wonderful Christmas gift Jocko and team has bestowed upon us. Thank you.
Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
So does getting your victories taken away lmfao
Cancer is temporary. Losing a testicle lasts forever. - Lance Armstrong
Whenever there's multiple people in Jocko's thumbnails it looks like they're holding guns at eachother in a Mexican standoff 😂
This is a underrated comment
@@Teddy_______ dude every single one 😂 I wish I had the photoshop skills to add guns underneath the thumbnail
@@redacted5035
That’d be awesome 🤣 we should get people on that immediately. And then send it to me.
Echo, “T-Shirt Locker”. Your welcome
I want to meet country boy Charlie!
Review of this podcast:
Great podcast.
hey I live in West Sac!
Great episode, this guy is so humble, only mentioned at 1:26:15 how he is also a sniper😂
Morning
How do you learn tho? Ask why over and over? I never understood what it means to learn.
doesn't everyone get taught how to use terrain? O_o...it's in literally all the books which feature a battle
Good morning.
Yeah steve comes across well but after watching that eddie gallagher interview the way he was treated puts a seriously dark cloud over the seals. Steve comes up in and not in a good way they way he spoke to eddies parents.
Being a war criminal is not something you sweep under the rug. Lol wtf is wrong with you
I sure wish you’d get into the story of the two SEALs who killed the Green Beret in Mali. I’m going to subscribe to you in hopes you tap that one.
Why tho? They were scum bags so why highlight them?
Is there any part of this that references Eddie Gallagher?
Excellent Jocko. I drive truck and meat across country and I love your content, expertise, and hours of your content, lessons and great Intel. Thank you for your services. I got your 6 and 3... I have been dissatisfied with Joe Rogan lately..
Your epic and one of the very few men I look to for answers in my life... Thank you kindly Sir.
HOLY SHIT, Echo Charles more like Echo Biceps!
The Shawn Ryan Show brought some contrast to Master Chief Steve Ward. From an outsider looking in it makes sense that Steve did not divulge any information. I’m sure he legally couldn’t. I’m curious to hear Steve discuss wanting to pull Eddies bird, Eddies OIC, and other guys bird and anyone who testified for Eddie. Of course we don’t know this is just from eddies POV on Shawns Ryans Show. Did the accusers bird get pulled?
The accusers bird did NOT get pulled. All 3 of them. I believe one made it to team 6.
@@aleksc4376 That and the fact that Chief Ward told Eddie's parents "If you knew what we knew, you'd want your son in jail." That's where I have a problem with this guy. And he told them that before Eddie's Article 32 hearing!
Great podcast. Anyone know what AW is in the seal team?
Most likely Automatic Weapons, like carrying an M-60 machine gun as he made reference to links like on a belt fed machine gun.
@@nitramjr111 thanks dude. Ur prob right
@@rulsey23 That is fact, he is right.
hey jocko i know you probably won’t see this but hopefully you do. i’m 19 and on a football scholarship right now but i know what i want to do. i want to be a gunfighter. i want to be a SEAL. my grandfather was jack macione he was a SEAL back near vietnam and that’s all i’ve wanted to do since a young age. i just had questions on the whole process. will i have to sit on a boat for a couple years before i even get a shot at BUDS? like how does the pipeline look from the time you enlist in the navy to the time you get to BUDS. i’m up for whatever it takes, it’s in my blood, but i was just curious as how it will look. thanks man
Does anyone understand what they’re talking about when the day “A-Dub” or “AW”?
Automatic Weapons gunner (M60 in his era) as opposed to point, comms, etc. within the platoon.
Every dam day
Being in Gallagher's corner I couldn't listen to this one.
Ya man... my thoughts exactly
What are u referring to?
@@shammy3138 Eddie Gallagher controversy
@Raul Luna How do you know any of us weren't affected or impacted by that situation? You don't know that. You don't know if anyone out here has been wrongfully impacted by the military justice system or interactions with NCIS, or politically minded people in uniform that have no issues with screwing over their brothers and sisters. Anyone in uniform should be, and has the right to be, concerned about the wrongful persecution of Gallagher and his family. Besides all that we say what we want here. If Jocko has an issue with it he can delete all the comments he desires. Having said that I AM an admirer of Jocko & Echo and I may give Steve Ward a listen. But I can't respect anyone involved in what happened to Gallagher. It was wrong. Aloha.
@Raul Luna
It’s not like that at all. I haven’t heard his side. All I know is Gallagher’s side plus the evidence. So far it looks like Eddie is telling the truth. If Steve wants to tell his side I’m open to listening.
Enlist to be a T-trooper (for the shirts) I'm ready for a job whenever just tell me who to talk to.
Talk to your mirror
This is completely off topic but why hasn’t there been a podcast with David Goggins yet?
The part where steve is talking about leadership in his first platoon, at 40:52 he could be talking about David goggins, that’s how Dave goggins describes himself. Apparently he had a poor relationship with a lot of guys in the teams because of what steve said. That could be the reason jocko hasn’t had him on.
Listen to 2:14:02 ... there’s your answer
I think Jocko has little to zero respect for Goggins. Check the timestamp ctrebs gave. That was how Goggins was during the entire seal career. But even with that, he uses his ex-military career to promote the shit out of himself.
Guys like Goggins is probably the reason why Andy Stumpf told Joe Rogan to : "Buy every book that has the trident on them. And throw them the trash"
Good 👍
34:23 is hilarious
Way to turn your back on a brother ward.
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Jocko,
You dont talk to the mic, the Mic listens to u!
Two sides to every story none of us know Steve or Eddie and we are only hearing one side of the story! Ease up guys.