How much has MITS79 cost us since owning it?

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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
  • Tim and Az give us a rundown on what the boys have broken and what its cost to keep us running MITS79!
    We will be reaching out to the winner of the merch pack for guessing the right amount from the Brisbane 4x4 show!
    For a quote for a setup like this in your vehicle, head over to www.mitsalloy.... and fill in the quote form and we will get it back to you with a ballpark figure. Alternatively, you can call us to have a chat on 02 4967 6817
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  • @davidburchett6887
    @davidburchett6887 Рік тому +47

    Admire your honesty with what you’ve spent. And you use it as your R and D vehicle so money well spent 👍. And I always enjoy watching your vehicle on the 4wd 24/7 episodes, no matter who’s driving

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому +1

      280.000aud money well spent 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      Sure it's nice to describe all the great modifications they have made to Land cruiser. But I often wonder what the hell are they for? That is, I explain the concept better, you buy a car that today costs more than 100,000aud then you do a reverse engineering to make you pale with a cost similar to that of the car and then put it on UA-cam (to show how good you are and how beautiful the your car) and present the video with a nice smiling faces!! Of course they must be a genius!.... I always told that another rate hike from RBA and it will be the end of bullbar bullshit era also here in the great dingo piss creek s'traliyaaa!!

    • @grantm1891
      @grantm1891 Рік тому

      Reminds me of when I was 21 ( in 1995) and I brought into the bs of Toyotas are reliable. Bought a 75. Cost me 13k, four years old, cost me another 15k in the 20 months I owned it in far NQ. Then I woke up and bought a 4 yr old GQ. Owned that 18 1/2 years and spent less on it. PoS Toyotas. Nissans better off road and more reliable.

  • @patelliott8724
    @patelliott8724 Рік тому +23

    $282,000 is a lot of money!
    I'm glad that you have explained the costs involved to build and maintain this beast.
    I just hope that a lot of people watch this video before they start taking on the harder tracks and start driving them the way you do, it will save a lot of money and heartbreak when they have to shell out hard earned money!

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому +1

      Sure it's nice to describe all the great modifications you've made to your Land cruiser. But I often wonder what the hell are they for? That is, I explain the concept better, you buy a car that today costs more than 100,000aud then you do a reverse engineering to make you pale with a cost similar to that of the car and then put it on UA-cam (to show how good you are and how beautiful the your car) and present the video with a nice smiling face!! Of course you are a genius!...

    • @ngangadk
      @ngangadk Рік тому

    • @bamafencer12
      @bamafencer12 Рік тому +1

      Business expense, they can write it off...

  • @bradleyslater4015
    @bradleyslater4015 Рік тому +23

    Would love to see a video of you guys doing the repairs/service when it comes back from a trip. This was a great video and love watching this beast on the 4wd24/7 episodes. Absolute weapon

  • @yermoffroad
    @yermoffroad Рік тому +2

    Nice to see Tim again!

  • @Kaelan_Bell
    @Kaelan_Bell Рік тому +2

    Saw the rig on the way home from work today in lake mac, looks sick.

  • @joshc511
    @joshc511 Рік тому +2

    Those Bahco kits are gold!

  • @finnsailor24
    @finnsailor24 Рік тому +1

    Great mate thanks Tim for letting me sit in the 79 at the show

  • @148Reaper
    @148Reaper Місяць тому

    Nice ride, and good to see some real honesty around what it really takes, not just saying its a Toyota so it's more reliable than everything else, when in reality you have spent 5 times the original car's price.

  • @Navigator-apex
    @Navigator-apex Рік тому +4

    At least guys you are honest about it and others can learn from it.
    I guess once you start adding/modifying it is difficult to stop and hence the cost explosion.
    I am an engineer and always been using the KISS principle for many things including 4WD. Keeps maintenance costs down and also the capital outlay.
    For me, half the fun of going remote is simplicity and not taking the kitchen sink with me, but others want all the comforts and all these come at a cost.
    I guess each to their own.
    Great video.
    Cheers

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      Sure it's nice to describe all the great modifications you've made to your Land cruiser. But I often wonder what the hell are they for? That is, I explain the concept better, you buy a car that today costs more than 100,000aud then you do a reverse engineering to make you pale with a cost similar to that of the car and then put it on UA-cam (to show how good you are and how beautiful the your car) and present the video with a nice smiling face!! Of course you are a genius!

  • @brayden_josefski
    @brayden_josefski Рік тому +2

    you two made the show better

  • @rickyclarke8657
    @rickyclarke8657 Рік тому +4

    You Guys are leaders love the effort and work ther is many stars in 4wd24/7 episodes and you guys are one of the stars ... Or should I say MITS79 is the gold star

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      Sure it's nice to describe all the great modifications you've made to your Land cruiser. But I often wonder what the hell are they for? That is, I explain the concept better, you buy a car that today costs more than 100,000aud then you do a reverse engineering to make you pale with a cost similar to that of the car and then put it on UA-cam (to show how good you are and how beautiful the your car) and present the video with a nice smiling face Of course they are a genius!

  • @nathangeorgey7384
    @nathangeorgey7384 Рік тому +3

    You're making me feel better about how much I've spent 😅

  • @smokesignals_5424
    @smokesignals_5424 Рік тому +1

    Definitely do it again mate. It hasn’t made me want one but god damn it’s hilarious mate. And the little crash on the GRAVEL 😂😂
    Awesome video 🍻 mate

  • @Dan-n2o6j
    @Dan-n2o6j Рік тому +1

    Great video guys. Great tyres too! :)

  • @rodanderson5677
    @rodanderson5677 Рік тому

    Well done boys, I like the soft sell approach more

  • @bullzye101
    @bullzye101 Рік тому +1

    good on you guys awesome stuff .. and your guys MITS ALLOY have awesome stuff ... big thumbs up

  • @michaelnugara1
    @michaelnugara1 Рік тому +1

    Love the dobbo remote res shocks. They just laugh at corries.

  • @reddog4x4Matt
    @reddog4x4Matt Рік тому +1

    Thanks fellas, I don't feel so bad about my bill now.

  • @beaucandeloro3505
    @beaucandeloro3505 Рік тому +4

    Tim needs to get back on the tracks with 4wd24/7 or even do a trip together with them

  • @marita486
    @marita486 Рік тому

    Your honesty is humbling boys. Have you ever put a tray and canopy package on a GWM Cannon? $$$

  • @TheDizzymarskell
    @TheDizzymarskell Рік тому +2

    Hey Tim,
    Could you do a video on the mounting system and more specifically the rubber aspect to it. How it works in relation to the car and canopy, how did you come up with it etc. Cheers man

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому +2

      Hey Buddy! Yeah that could be a great video! thanks for the idea. cheers Tim

  • @thumbsout4x4-exploremore57
    @thumbsout4x4-exploremore57 Рік тому

    Worth every cent fellas! Great video! Cheers for sharing

  • @iandibley8032
    @iandibley8032 Рік тому +8

    These type trips are great for content and R&D of the products..but few average 4wders could afford this level of carnage and costs. The Mits product seems to cope well.

  • @rollyb5061
    @rollyb5061 Рік тому +1

    awesome episode guys , love the 79

  • @rxiddd
    @rxiddd Рік тому

    Love seeing this thing round newy haha

  • @keilfestin4606
    @keilfestin4606 Рік тому +1

    Love the honesty and love your videos on the 4wd247

  • @lesking4219
    @lesking4219 Рік тому

    bloody hell that's a lot to put into that 79 Tim an AZ but you have got a bloody good 4x4 an when you getting back into the car Tim

  • @Nashic12
    @Nashic12 Рік тому +1

    Flush out the evaporator inside the dash it's probably clogged with dust, makes a massive difference to A/C temps in cabin 👌

  • @rustystarfishadventures
    @rustystarfishadventures Рік тому

    Always wanted one of your canopy’s but just a fair bit out of my price range but when you see them in real life can 100% see why.

  • @Flipppee
    @Flipppee Рік тому +1

    Hands down dream car, hope to get one asap

    • @Renegade040
      @Renegade040 Рік тому

      Nightmare car by the sound of it.

  • @NAStheNomad
    @NAStheNomad Рік тому +1

    That’s a big number but you have a beast of a car. Great video & thanks for sharing 👍🏼

    • @Renegade040
      @Renegade040 Рік тому

      Why is it a beast of a car, why would it be better than say, a tricked out, Ram 1500/2500 or F150/250, or even a modified 200 series.

    • @NAStheNomad
      @NAStheNomad Рік тому

      @@Renegade040 I love the RAMs and F150s but you do realise more than one type of car can be a referred to as a beast right? There is a better use of everyone’s time than trying to debate subjective opinions.

  • @Nicholaswilms17
    @Nicholaswilms17 Рік тому +1

    I love this 79 and I reckon you should do a give away

  • @briansomers613
    @briansomers613 Рік тому

    It'd be great to see different setups in the canopies you guys build seems almost everyone has a different idea of the ideal setup.

  • @MyViewon_Life
    @MyViewon_Life Рік тому

    Great video! More like this

  • @Stubear22374
    @Stubear22374 Рік тому

    Nice truck a beauty even with its battle scars

  • @chrisheagerty3747
    @chrisheagerty3747 Рік тому +3

    so 282 plus the 24/7 invoice .

  • @philburns7803
    @philburns7803 Рік тому +4

    I want Azza in the ranger,
    To go against the MIT's 79

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому +1

      We reckon this would be a awesome video to do!!!

  • @codyheit7159
    @codyheit7159 Рік тому +1

    Looks good but why not run the canopy right to back of the tray for more room

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому

      Thanks mate, For the trips we do, the 1700 canopy is a massive amount of space for 1 bloke and with that size we want to keep the weight as central as possible

  • @LiamUpfold
    @LiamUpfold Рік тому +1

    there’s a soft frequency buzz throughout the video and you’ve got a premiere warp stabiliser error at 11:12
    Great video and you guys make good content but best to always look thru the sequence before exporting 🤙🏻

  • @shirolee
    @shirolee Рік тому

    Gosh, I wish I could just have the chance buy one in the US.

  • @rxiddd
    @rxiddd Рік тому

    I’d love to see some content on the new TF BT50 Mits build (I’ve just got one that’s why) but just plans with it, what’s currently been done and what the goal is with it

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому +1

      We have a new video with an update in the next couple of weeks!

  • @tubbytub2990
    @tubbytub2990 Рік тому +1

    Hi mate when your on the way to Cape York, we would like to invite you and the 4WD 24/7 crew to the Ravenshoe area? Let me know.

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому

      Hi Mate! Thanks heaps for your invite... But not sure on our movements to that sort of area just yet

  • @ashmiles848
    @ashmiles848 Рік тому +1

    Good work! You've developed some great skills

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      Yep strip a car after every trip... To avoid it fail due to the extreme reverse engineering!! That cost twice the value of the car... They genius!

  • @v8srock
    @v8srock Рік тому

    With that canopy, have you ever considered making one with the trundle draw mounted on the bottom of it so it can be mounted on a trailer or ute tub then lift off for when it is not in use? I really like the canopy but I own a wagon and looking to sleep inside the wagon and have the trailer as a base camp that will also carry a MTB.

  • @brettleonard8602
    @brettleonard8602 Рік тому +3

    Although massive it's a tax wright off as a business rnd vehicle. It's has obviously created huge product sales and returns in that respect. To think people spend this hard earned and will never see any return. Hey consumerism is what makes the economy turn. That's why we're not 3rd world living. So although I think it's mental and couldn't do it. Thank F everyone else does and that's for all recreational motorsport. In saying that I am looking for a S5 Y62 currently. I can see myself getting carried away there. Spent the last 16 years with no toys though. V8 302 windsor C4 9inch 200b Datsun wagon sold 4k, V8 84 4 runner 305 tpi chev turbo 400 2k stall 15 inch rims 33 inch tyres 2.5 inch body lift, sold it for 10k, VL Berlina 5l 2500 stall cam no rust straight as sold $2500 in 2009 😭😭😭.. hold onto your toys guys

  • @TyFenwick
    @TyFenwick Рік тому +2

    Weapon 🔥🔥🔥

  • @winnvo8088
    @winnvo8088 Рік тому +1

    That's crazy!

  • @muntee33
    @muntee33 8 місяців тому

    Someone needs to take all these 12v power supply components, strip out the guts of them and mount them on a Common base with a neat and tidy, singular cover that contains everything in a sealed unit and singular display panel, complete with sealed cooling channels that run over the various heat sink fins and exits via external vents. Instead of all these add hoc, patchwork looking, diy setups with various bits and pieces here and there and exposed wiring/connections... That's my opinion on the growing trend of "look how many different things I have for my power supply set up"

  • @heinrichkilian2851
    @heinrichkilian2851 Рік тому

    So much for the toyoter praise...

  • @cromulentparty
    @cromulentparty Рік тому +3

    how much of the 282k was bags?

  • @paulboon1100
    @paulboon1100 Рік тому +4

    $282.000!? WOW! There is days I don't have that in my wallet! (Make it an even 300, get Rocket to put an auto in it. Lol) So, what you're saying is, lots of fun costs lots of money! I can see though, one couldn't burn the smiles of your faces! BTW one heck of a 79series setup! And the R and D is worth it as well as the marketing and you're having fun at the taxman's expense! 😅.

    • @ageofatheism6638
      @ageofatheism6638 Рік тому

      Taxman, meaning every Australian Taxpayer!

    • @paulboon1100
      @paulboon1100 Рік тому +2

      @@ageofatheism6638 if they the government actually used it for what it was meant for and didn't waste most of it with God knows whatever committee who all get their slice, no Australian would mind paying their bit, but paying monkeys huge amounts for life and making rules and loop holes to suit themselves and spending our tax money on all sorts we the public never voted for or agree with and making therefore even more money that someone else was compelled to pay them etc etc, doesn't cause any respect for the taxman who is voluntarily working for those in that government.

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      Sure it's nice to describe all the great modifications they have made to Land cruiser. But I often wonder what the hell are they for? That is, I explain the concept better, you buy a car that today costs more than 100,000aud then you do a reverse engineering to make you pale with a cost similar to that of the car and then put it on UA-cam (to show how good you are and how beautiful the your car) and present the video with a nice smiling faces!! Of course they must be a genius!.... I always told that another rate hike from RBA and it will be the end of bullbar bullshit era also here in the great dingo piss creek s'traliyaaa!!

    • @paulboon1100
      @paulboon1100 Рік тому

      @@KoDeMondo so.... What would you do to advance your business?

  • @InnerEdgeTrails
    @InnerEdgeTrails Рік тому +2

    282 ouch, however you 2 cant stop smilling. the price you pay for fun.

  • @tee7snow401
    @tee7snow401 Рік тому

    I hope this rig stays on the channel. It has became an icon how many Kms on the new motor and chassis to date?

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому +1

      About 40k on the motor, 330k on the chassis

  • @SNLandCruisers
    @SNLandCruisers Рік тому +1

    If you just spring over the rear you won’t drag the leaves on everything.

  • @owenkennett1335
    @owenkennett1335 Рік тому

    I still think that it needs terrain tamer parabolic‘s with the superior high clearance plates

  • @79series
    @79series Рік тому +1

    Wasn't the guy on the right the guy with a coiled ranger. What's his part with MIT's. Cool vid and good info

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому +1

      He sure is mate! Az is our marketing coordinator these days. Thanks for watching mate

  • @warrenthornton3432
    @warrenthornton3432 Рік тому +1

    Hi guys my question is when are you going to put portal Axel's in the big rig ?.

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому +1

      That would be fun, but at this stage it isn't something we are looking to do on this build

  • @joshradoll5126
    @joshradoll5126 Рік тому +1

    How do I get one of those stickers thats on the bushmans fridge?
    I've just had a canopy installed a couple of months ago.

  • @2pintsofcremedementh
    @2pintsofcremedementh Рік тому

    Still can't out-thrash the '92 Discovery I bought for $1500 and has only cost a few hundred bucks to keep on the road in the subsequent four years and 100+k

  • @livingworkingoutsidebox
    @livingworkingoutsidebox Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing 👍 Now to you think you all would have been a bit more gentle with it if it was your own vehicle?
    Taking away the R&D or need to put the equipment through quality checks.
    Great looking Beast of a rig.👍💪🤜 🐪🦘🐊🌴🏝🏜🏕😊

  • @raelock598
    @raelock598 Рік тому +2

    The Mits' 79 is up there with the dirty 30 in the best single cab utes on 4wd247 just love seeing it out wheeling

  • @grahamtaylor2603
    @grahamtaylor2603 Рік тому

    Great Vehicle can you give me more info on the maxi trax mounting brackets

  • @_suppsventures1149
    @_suppsventures1149 2 місяці тому

    Interest to know if the tent ladder is just held on by one rhino rack stow it?

  • @Daniel-Mclovin
    @Daniel-Mclovin Рік тому

    Best used 79! You know it means business when there isn't a microwave 😂

  • @adamfulford6423
    @adamfulford6423 Рік тому +1

    Does that include fuel?😢

  • @mauriciohughes5484
    @mauriciohughes5484 Рік тому +2

    That’s like 2x 300 series. I don’t get it but hey.. well done I guess? 👏👏👏

  • @nicksalmon2389
    @nicksalmon2389 Рік тому

    Where does it stop ? 😀

  • @gutmincer2
    @gutmincer2 8 місяців тому

    there goes that dream

  • @Wolf4wdadventures.576
    @Wolf4wdadventures.576 Рік тому

    She's definitely had some battle scar's and scrapes, but it always comes back looking just awesome. Love watching it on 4wd/27... It's a beast 👍👍

  • @adventures_with_simo
    @adventures_with_simo Рік тому +1

    Very upfront and informative, before the rear diff swap were you running neg offset wheels for correction? If so were you experiencing issues from this?

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому +2

      Thanks! Yes we were running different offset. Although this isn't very practical for the sort of trips we do, fortunately we didn't haven't any bearing or rim issues. With the diff correction we now run a -5 offset all round

  • @michaelhains2291
    @michaelhains2291 Рік тому

    I have done most of the same trips and my bills are nothing like yours. 2012 Nissan Patrol and more mechanical sympathy for the car apparently.

  • @harrisonlynam8165
    @harrisonlynam8165 Рік тому +1

    What is the upgraded turbo you run and do you rate it? Cheers 🙂

  • @garysheppard4028
    @garysheppard4028 Рік тому +1

    Wow. 282.
    And I guess that's with them doing a lot of their own repairs and/or getting mates rates.
    Whew.
    Still, it's a tax deduction so that would take a bit of the pain away I suppose.

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      Of course.. Of course tax deduction.. To keep the ponzi scheme alive!

  • @maxspiteri8237
    @maxspiteri8237 Рік тому

    hey guys love the cruiser, what leafs are you running looks like they have a lot more clearance then standard ones, cheers

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому

      They are 900kg constant springs in the rear of our 79.

  • @pullingguard1527
    @pullingguard1527 Рік тому

    Why haven’t you guys coiled it?

  • @blackdynomite3892
    @blackdynomite3892 Рік тому +1

    #CoiltheMITS79🔥

  • @andrewt3952
    @andrewt3952 Рік тому +1

    Crazy how it ads up eh.

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому

      It's crazy how quickly things escalate!

  • @philburns7803
    @philburns7803 Рік тому

    I miss Azzadventure UA-cam VIDS,,,

  • @andrewcarter2155
    @andrewcarter2155 2 місяці тому

    What tyres are you guys got on

  • @samscott8727
    @samscott8727 Рік тому

    thats a very surprising amount of money spent... i was expecting 100-150k :O

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      No that is the cost of only the vehicle just come out from the factory!!!...

    • @samscott8727
      @samscott8727 Рік тому

      @@KoDeMondo it was second hand not new

  • @oscardobson-brown9189
    @oscardobson-brown9189 Рік тому +2

    rip editor at 11:12

  • @jasondaley6723
    @jasondaley6723 Рік тому +2

    Who gives a rats ass how much it costs as it's a moving/roving bill board for an Aussie business that keeps on going forward, it's smiles per miles and how much fun have you had from an ole truck

  • @FS-vh7mf
    @FS-vh7mf Рік тому

    She’s a beauty

  • @paulmerriman5222
    @paulmerriman5222 Рік тому +1

    Is a lot of money but is a business at end of day
    Hi guys I like see some of customers rigs u guys build for everyday customers not 24/7 guys just average Joe blog that wants a build for towing and touring

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому

      Check out some of our other videos for more builds

  • @tomkelly3896
    @tomkelly3896 Рік тому

    I bought my first house in 1990....62,000 usd😲

  • @ozxcountry
    @ozxcountry Рік тому

    I guess im keeping my nissan navara

  • @mk27wrx
    @mk27wrx Рік тому +1

    You forgot to mention it's all a tax deduction as a business write off ... Normal people would have to save serious coin to get a vehicle like that ..

    • @joels2517
      @joels2517 Рік тому +1

      Yeah 282

    • @gregdogg10
      @gregdogg10 Рік тому

      Normal people wouldn’t be so stupid

    • @KoDeMondo
      @KoDeMondo Рік тому

      Sure it's nice to describe all the great modifications they have made to Land cruiser. But I often wonder what the hell are they for? That is, I explain the concept better, you buy a car that today costs more than 100,000aud then you do a reverse engineering to make you pale with a cost similar to that of the car and then put it on UA-cam (to show how good you are and how beautiful the your car) and present the video with a nice smiling faces!! Of course they must be a genius!.... I always told that another rate hike from RBA and it will be the end of bullbar bullshit era also here in the great dingo piss creek s'traliyaaa!!

  • @KoDeMondo
    @KoDeMondo Рік тому +1

    Yep strip a car after every trip... To avoid it fail due to the extreme reverse engineering!! That cost twice the value of the car... They genius!

  • @Deepblackice
    @Deepblackice Рік тому

    The value you're looking for: $282k

  • @philburns7803
    @philburns7803 Рік тому

    Bit more costly as AZZA done a boo boo

  • @connorgooding9614
    @connorgooding9614 Рік тому

    Just keep with the older crusier fuck all the new ones just a waist of money these day 😅

  • @fraserson1
    @fraserson1 Рік тому +1

    Cracking tax write off 😂

  • @MassacrePoon
    @MassacrePoon Рік тому

    Needs some new wheels bruvva the trailer wheels are ass

  • @Andrew-ed3zy
    @Andrew-ed3zy Рік тому

    wtf. Just buy a unimog lol

  • @cllarrence
    @cllarrence Рік тому

    audio sucks

    • @mitsalloy
      @mitsalloy  Рік тому

      We've addressed this for our upcoming videos - sorry!

  • @Renegade040
    @Renegade040 Рік тому +1

    Did I hear that correct, you paid $110k for this second hand and then had to put a new engine in it and up $282k overall. I know you guys and other love these cars, but just don't get them. I do keep hearing they are the reliable car on the market, bullet proof, so why so many costly repairs.
    Surely there are better vehicles that can do serious off roading without changing just about everything on the car, but don't have a 30 year old design.

    • @sbGOM
      @sbGOM Рік тому

      Yep. I don't get it either.

    • @jasonfields2793
      @jasonfields2793 Рік тому

      Pretty sure they said 38k the paid for it originally.
      I think the 110k must be what it cost after modifying

  • @sexatica
    @sexatica Рік тому +1

    this is the most practical 79 in aus probably

  • @chrisballard7594
    @chrisballard7594 Рік тому +1

    waste of money.

  • @Ramjet7777
    @Ramjet7777 6 місяців тому

    At the beginning of the vid you said you paid 38k for the cruiser alone and at the end you said you paid 110k!?