Gamers Nexus, People were saying that loop order didnt matter, and then you started talking about how GPU temps effect clocks. No one is arguing that GPU temps don't effect clocks. The point is that once loop temp equilibrium is reached, the loop order wont effect the temperature of the GPU or the CPU by any meaningful amount. Those temps are going to be determined by the heat energy dissipation capacity of your radiators
Yes of course ambient matters, but changing ambient temps arent going to have an effect on whether loop order matters or not, that would be assumed to be a constant
@@SoupRKnowva Depends how much flow/restriction you have and how extreme the power draw is of the components. I got up to an 8C coolant temp difference from coolest point to hottest point in a loop with a 380w power limit 2080 ti + 2950x pulling 250w with 5 x 360 radiators and a single 140. Even with 2 x D5s in serial @ 100% it was too restrictive to reduce the temp difference between sensors so I had to split it into dual loops where there would be only one heat source per loop and more efficient flow since serial pumps doesn't double flow. The 2080 ti eventually got moved to my 9900k rig. The 8C would have been enough to drop a second 2080ti's boost clock by like 30MHz if it had been placed in the the wrong part of the loop.
These RIP and overclocking streams have made me get some older GPUs for O/C. currently have most of the hwbot records for the R7 250x. The older cards with the dumb buck controllers make is easy to pencil mod the resistors for more power. cooling done with a cheap ebay waterblock.
Also the other than Perma the to a house 🏠🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠 and the name 📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛 are cool 🆒😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎 a sent 📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤
@Gamers nexus Added a profile picture so you dont have to google live next time. Thanks for that tho i never laughed so hard on youtube. Still have to watch the roast tho need to need to take my time for that. (3:23:40 for those curious what im taling about) And sorry @Joe Stepongzi for ruining Bigbird.
Very fun streams, cool to watch! If you do more of these, I would love to see the OC display run into a capture device so we can see the stats in real time always. Thanks!
Stanley! Simply the best vacuum thermos. I wouldn't trust a Starbucks, Chinese welds to that extreme cold. I've had a Starbucks thermos lose its vacuum to thin air. Plus the insulation factor on those bad boys. There's a reason they make almost the exact same thing to this day (the only changes have been in the lid and lid threading).
I agree with your comment on gaming - but I am a huge gamer. It's only as much of a waste as the fun you get out of it, and yeah it IS the same thing. Just like how I enjoy tossing new parts in my PC even though it already runs every game over 4K at high frame rates with near instant load times blah blah... there literally isn't additional GAMING performance to be created with it - yet, I will still toss new parts into it before terribly long. LN2 is "pointless" as a cooling solution. It's not pointless from a testing perspective - and PC enthusiasts naturally become tinkerers... it's only about as pointless as anything I do for sheer enjoyment. I don't find gaming to be "pointless", I find it to be one of the best expenditures of time I can make. It's the time I enjoy the most. That's got to account for something.
As an organic chemist I must say that I see many opportunities for serious nitrogen burns. You should handle that stuff carefully and ALWAYS cap it. The day someone carelessly knocks over that doer... and it splashes on your hand... you'll wish you had.
Wow don't use a plain ol' sharpie as a "permanent" solution. They fade though in a work space where the mats will be, may not be an issue. IDeally, get something pigmented like a calligraphy/art marker (micron/copic), or sharpie's "extreme fade resistant."
I wish with these OC streams that they would focus more on the overclocking then super chats, joe seems to be doing all this work, adjusting clocks, running benchmarks and the talk is about signed mouse pads, they need to have a dedicated camera focused on the OC screen, so the viewers can see what is happening, what settings are being applied and what high scores are getting broken! I came here to see how far a KingPin card can be pushed, not hear about someone wondering if they can get a signed mouse pad.
@@BeardedHardware In the stream you beat der8auer and K|NGP|N scores by 200 points for single GPU, there was no talk about that, there was no in depth conversations about what clocks and settings was used, it was 3:43:39 talking about super chats and a mouse pad.
@@RavenVapes We upload recaps of streams. Watch those instead, as that's clearly what you want. Also, we didn't really consider these to be record scores as we can do better, so no need to talk about them.
@@GamersNexus maybe instead of telling people to go watch your recap, where your voice over puts people to sleep, cause you suck at reading from a script, that you teach your camera man to set up more then one camera . get someone to monitor the stream, and i dont know maybe get a stream deck so you can switch between cameras, like all them kiddies over on twitch, then you can be the biggest shill you want to be, reading out your $1 comments
And my ftw3 ultra hybrid does near the same clocks as my kingpin.. so just because you lost the sil lottery doesn't mean EVGA is downbinning their other cards
@@ConeJellos if you look at 3dmark scores the kingpin cards run at 2130,2145,2160,2175,2190 most commonly on air. So maybe your misunderstanding me or I phrased my comment poorly, but these cards for a fact run in offsets of 15mhz
Don't lump the 1650 with a 1030 lol. The 1650 would be great for introducing ppl to pc gaming. I had a 1050 ti before my 2060 and it was surprisingly good on 1080p.
itd be really appreciated if someone could make the ln2 kingpin bios available for asus oc strix , since i hate the temperature throttling that starts form 55 Celcius and up , would be appreciated
Sheesh. Your chats have a ridiculous amount of self imposed safety officers. In true safety officer fashion they have no clue that the biggest factor in safety is maintaining control over yourself and your equipment.
"Keyboard in the middle" refers to the only interface between the person and the program. I's a joke. It means that the error occurred between the user and the program. It means user error.
when it hits full thermal saturation whats the temp difference between in and out of rad if its not a high enough delta it may not fall into the gpu stepping for gpu boost.
Custom bios and classified software that only works with the kingpin card. It's available to ALL kingpin owners. So if you buy one you can access the no power limit bios and tool.
I know this is forever ago, and nobody did anything wrong but id like to remind people anytime i see large volumes of gases used that they displace oxygen in an enclosed area, so beware of asphyxiation.
Gotta love the know it all in chat telling them to wear gloves even though bearded job is literally to play with ln2 everyday lol thats like telling kingpin to make sure to turn the power button on lol. Some people google something and think they are pros at it lol leave the dangers to those of us who know what we are doing :) thanks
@GamerzNexus I recently purchased a rtx kingpin card and i had a little glitch with my memory. It for some odd reason down clocked 200mhz to 6800mhz total, temperature was 36c and it had been idling on windows for a couple hours. and I defaulted the card back to the original settings and it still wasn't working. A system restart finally defaulted the card back to 7000mhz on memory. I wanted to ask if you have had any issues regarding any memory down-clocking.
It's actually more dangerous to wear gloves with LN2. The LN2 will roll of your skin but if you wear gloves the LN2 will freeze the gloves and give you frost bite.
@@SuperSilvi1990I'm sure if you wear the correct gloves it wouldn't. And what about eye protection? What these guys need to remember is it's not just their own safety at risk here - they are also influencing others.
@@kins888 I was told this by a science lab technician while working in his lab. You can literally put your hand into a cup of LN2 and the leidenfrost effect protects you. The only time they where gloves is when handling things that they froze. The safety glasses they used was to protect their eyes if a beaker broke form being frozen too fast. It sounds crazy but its true. Check it out on UA-cam.
Perfect example of PPE recommendations here. They dont write these for fun. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.chem.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/safety/documents/cryogenic.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjF4MWcw5niAhVRqHEKHQIfA50QFjAEegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw01RQr2x0LORVsbKOLTd8gv
If I go to sleep with UA-cam running I always wake up with you Overclocking something - like the second hour...
Haha ditto. Always Steve overclocking when I wake!
Honestly this just happened to me.
Same,it’s every time
@@Gizzer3010 literally just now
me too, or the Linus Tech Tips "WAN Show"
Hands down my favorite livestream, watched the whole thing from beginning to the end.
Twice
Gamers Nexus,
People were saying that loop order didnt matter, and then you started talking about how GPU temps effect clocks.
No one is arguing that GPU temps don't effect clocks. The point is that once loop temp equilibrium is reached, the loop order wont effect the temperature of the GPU or the CPU by any meaningful amount. Those temps are going to be determined by the heat energy dissipation capacity of your radiators
And here i thought ambient temp was key.
Yes of course ambient matters, but changing ambient temps arent going to have an effect on whether loop order matters or not, that would be assumed to be a constant
@@SoupRKnowva Depends how much flow/restriction you have and how extreme the power draw is of the components. I got up to an 8C coolant temp difference from coolest point to hottest point in a loop with a 380w power limit 2080 ti + 2950x pulling 250w with 5 x 360 radiators and a single 140. Even with 2 x D5s in serial @ 100% it was too restrictive to reduce the temp difference between sensors so I had to split it into dual loops where there would be only one heat source per loop and more efficient flow since serial pumps doesn't double flow. The 2080 ti eventually got moved to my 9900k rig.
The 8C would have been enough to drop a second 2080ti's boost clock by like 30MHz if it had been placed in the the wrong part of the loop.
@@Lead_Foot That's a pretty extreme setup, both in the heat you're dumping into the loop and in radiating power! an interesting data point for sure :)
Would like to see LN2 cooling of Radeon vii
I love how Steven doesnt even know his own personal rigs specs but can go on for days about hardcore hardware technical information. lmao
These RIP and overclocking streams have made me get some older GPUs for O/C. currently have most of the hwbot records for the R7 250x. The older cards with the dumb buck controllers make is easy to pencil mod the resistors for more power. cooling done with a cheap ebay waterblock.
Also the other than Perma the to a house 🏠🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏡🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠 and the name 📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛📛 are cool 🆒😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎 a sent 📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤📤
LN2 is used in dermatology. I had a few breakouts as a kid and they would put that stuff on my face. Was quite fun.
Real lol
@Gamers nexus Added a profile picture so you dont have to google live next time. Thanks for that tho i never laughed so hard on youtube. Still have to watch the roast tho need to need to take my time for that. (3:23:40 for those curious what im taling about) And sorry @Joe Stepongzi for ruining Bigbird.
nope c4/plastic explosive only burns when exposed to fire (its actually a viable solid cooking fuel for camping/hiking)
Gloves: not needed; good ventilation: critical
Woke up with this playing thinking that it requires 2 people to cool a 15th gen.
Very fun streams, cool to watch! If you do more of these, I would love to see the OC display run into a capture device so we can see the stats in real time always. Thanks!
Stanley! Simply the best vacuum thermos. I wouldn't trust a Starbucks, Chinese welds to that extreme cold. I've had a Starbucks thermos lose its vacuum to thin air. Plus the insulation factor on those bad boys. There's a reason they make almost the exact same thing to this day (the only changes have been in the lid and lid threading).
Dang. Wish I wasn't working when this went down. Would have loved a signed mousepad by Tech Jesus. Good stuff though.
"There's always extra when I take them apart" - 15:30
lmao
love when i come home from a 12 hour shift and your vids are still playing, may you have all my watch hours!!!
i just don’t don’t know
i just don’t don’t know
i i don’t
i just don’t
i just don’t
Damn, i fell asleep and this thing was on autoplay the whole night
Thank you guys to watch your livestream.
I agree with your comment on gaming - but I am a huge gamer. It's only as much of a waste as the fun you get out of it, and yeah it IS the same thing. Just like how I enjoy tossing new parts in my PC even though it already runs every game over 4K at high frame rates with near instant load times blah blah... there literally isn't additional GAMING performance to be created with it - yet, I will still toss new parts into it before terribly long.
LN2 is "pointless" as a cooling solution. It's not pointless from a testing perspective - and PC enthusiasts naturally become tinkerers... it's only about as pointless as anything I do for sheer enjoyment.
I don't find gaming to be "pointless", I find it to be one of the best expenditures of time I can make. It's the time I enjoy the most. That's got to account for something.
@3:02:00 i'm just thinking how easy it would be to mix up which hand you're drinking from...
What does your excel file look like that you use to save results on your benchmark runs?
Curious minds want to know.
Steve, your livestreaming is pretty good. Relaxed atmosphere, i like it.
As an organic chemist I must say that I see many opportunities for serious nitrogen burns. You should handle that stuff carefully and ALWAYS cap it. The day someone carelessly knocks over that doer... and it splashes on your hand... you'll wish you had.
Hello good seeing you guys
Put a ad when obs cut out, seems like a natural placement of advertisement
Your so fast you don't know what being late is.
Glad to know what Thor was doing after Endgame.
That's actually funny as fook
You’re welcome ;)
Wow don't use a plain ol' sharpie as a "permanent" solution. They fade though in a work space where the mats will be, may not be an issue. IDeally, get something pigmented like a calligraphy/art marker (micron/copic), or sharpie's "extreme fade resistant."
off topic, wow that dude is huge. he could squash my nvts into infinity.
Someone leaked asus's no power limit 1.2v max XOC bios for the 1080 and 1080 ti a long time ago.
Joe Stepongzi get his hands on a 12900K yet? i love to see what he can do with it
I wish with these OC streams that they would focus more on the overclocking then super chats, joe seems to be doing all this work, adjusting clocks, running benchmarks and the talk is about signed mouse pads, they need to have a dedicated camera focused on the OC screen, so the viewers can see what is happening, what settings are being applied and what high scores are getting broken!
I came here to see how far a KingPin card can be pushed, not hear about someone wondering if they can get a signed mouse pad.
Crow sometimes it’s hard to please everybody... we’re working on future things to show cool shit in the future
@@BeardedHardware In the stream you beat der8auer and K|NGP|N scores by 200 points for single GPU, there was no talk about that, there was no in depth conversations about what clocks and settings was used, it was 3:43:39 talking about super chats and a mouse pad.
@@RavenVapes We upload recaps of streams. Watch those instead, as that's clearly what you want. Also, we didn't really consider these to be record scores as we can do better, so no need to talk about them.
@@GamersNexus maybe instead of telling people to go watch your recap, where your voice over puts people to sleep, cause you suck at reading from a script, that you teach your camera man to set up more then one camera . get someone to monitor the stream, and i dont know maybe get a stream deck so you can switch between cameras, like all them kiddies over on twitch, then you can be the biggest shill you want to be, reading out your $1 comments
@@GamersNexus Never feed trolls GN. Nice work btw ~2600 was far higher than I thought you would get.
The ln2 pour was still a bit loud but you guys were more audible, I think
Great video as always
picking all the good gpus for kingpin thats why my FTW3 ultra 2080 ti sucks does 2040/2025mhz after getting to running temps
And my ftw3 ultra hybrid does near the same clocks as my kingpin.. so just because you lost the sil lottery doesn't mean EVGA is downbinning their other cards
And if your that unhappy with it... SELL IT AND GET WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT
3:24:50 Right, Vogel is german for bird, Vögel is the plural, so birds. But vögeln is german for f*ck(ing) 😂❤️
You use a razor blade to unbend pins.
pantheist46n2 I have slacker
@@BeardedHardware i was just sayin cause that one dude was askin
So why does the mod mat come with nipple clamps?
BlueSmokeGamer hahahah
Everything from gn comes with the nipple sqeezers now.
When overclocking RTX cards step up in multiples of 15 on the core. So +30/+45/+60/+75/+90/+105/+120/+135/+150 ect...
The boost bins aren't multiples of 15 btw. So you are misinformed.
@@ConeJellos if you look at 3dmark scores the kingpin cards run at 2130,2145,2160,2175,2190 most commonly on air. So maybe your misunderstanding me or I phrased my comment poorly, but these cards for a fact run in offsets of 15mhz
Are those vrm blowing!? Or is that RGB!
When will we see overclocking of LN2 of the gt 1030 and gtx1650?
Don't lump the 1650 with a 1030 lol. The 1650 would be great for introducing ppl to pc gaming. I had a 1050 ti before my 2060 and it was surprisingly good on 1080p.
itd be really appreciated if
someone could make the ln2 kingpin bios available for asus oc strix , since i hate the temperature throttling that starts form 55 Celcius and up , would be appreciated
THIS is how the 2080ti SHOULD perform out of the box , for that insane price !
Cave men make computer cold
whats does mean chicken clock? Stock?. ok 3:13:50
he explain it in a different video not chicken clock, he said "chikencloking" = small frequency steps
When you use baby steps to go up....
Sheesh. Your chats have a ridiculous amount of self imposed safety officers. In true safety officer fashion they have no clue that the biggest factor in safety is maintaining control over yourself and your equipment.
"Keyboard in the middle" refers to the only interface between the person and the program. I's a joke. It means that the error occurred between the user and the program. It means user error.
hey greetings from Brazil!!! #CEMR
"Needs more Cowbell" :)
Chat: "never touch a running system"
Steve: 3:40:23
modern systems have antistatic coating, go do that in a older mobo or card and say goodbye
when it hits full thermal saturation whats the temp difference between in and out of rad if its not a high enough delta it may not fall into the gpu stepping for gpu boost.
Next time somebody knocks what you guys are doing.. just reply pioneering!
giant tank of LN2 , says were good for the whole day?! lol thats crazy.
He said that about the 30L dewer, the giant tanks hold 180L
no audio thanks Gamers Nexus
we just want to know whats capable on water
RipJay
Who also watched the livestream?
how do u get the ill program that lets him adjust all voltage settings in that small window.
Sovietwomble makes 7k+ a month on Pateron because he sits around and does nothing but play games and uploads edited highlights on UA-cam :P
You know, joe does look like a big baby it's his chubby cheeks xD
KIngpin best!
Will next gen be better 2 years prior (idk)
Future me here(yes it’s wayyy better but you can’t buy them)
Final clocks????????
@Gamers Nexus, everything about the card from the master himself: xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#virtuallink
Useless paperweight for my future lg c9 without hdmi2.1, you'd be mad to buy a card now
He kind of does seem like a mad old baby...
How did you get rid of power limit?
Custom bios for the kingspin 2080ti
Custom bios and classified software that only works with the kingpin card. It's available to ALL kingpin owners. So if you buy one you can access the no power limit bios and tool.
Blame nvidia
@@BeardedHardware Wow, I wonder who nVidia executive he had to blow to get that done
Gizmoriderful Ye greatest answer ever
What kind of Monitor is that?
Gigabyte
@@excellingsoul no shit?
I know this is forever ago, and nobody did anything wrong but id like to remind people anytime i see large volumes of gases used that they displace oxygen in an enclosed area, so beware of asphyxiation.
Whoa they use a lot of vaseline 😏😏
lmao "what are we then? Posers"
Gotta love the know it all in chat telling them to wear gloves even though bearded job is literally to play with ln2 everyday lol thats like telling kingpin to make sure to turn the power button on lol. Some people google something and think they are pros at it lol leave the dangers to those of us who know what we are doing :) thanks
U got the right idea but bad explanation
@GamerzNexus I recently purchased a rtx kingpin card and i had a little glitch with my memory. It for some odd reason down clocked 200mhz to 6800mhz total, temperature was 36c and it had been idling on windows for a couple hours. and I defaulted the card back to the original settings and it still wasn't working. A system restart finally defaulted the card back to 7000mhz on memory. I wanted to ask if you have had any issues regarding any memory down-clocking.
SmokinGoodd none..are you checking while running a bench?
Can we just take a minute to crap all over Sam Dean?
It might be a good idea to wear some PPE no?! 🤯
It's actually more dangerous to wear gloves with LN2. The LN2 will roll of your skin but if you wear gloves the LN2 will freeze the gloves and give you frost bite.
@@SuperSilvi1990I'm sure if you wear the correct gloves it wouldn't. And what about eye protection? What these guys need to remember is it's not just their own safety at risk here - they are also influencing others.
@@kins888 I was told this by a science lab technician while working in his lab. You can literally put your hand into a cup of LN2 and the leidenfrost effect protects you. The only time they where gloves is when handling things that they froze. The safety glasses they used was to protect their eyes if a beaker broke form being frozen too fast.
It sounds crazy but its true. Check it out on UA-cam.
Perfect example of PPE recommendations here. They dont write these for fun. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.chem.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/safety/documents/cryogenic.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjF4MWcw5niAhVRqHEKHQIfA50QFjAEegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw01RQr2x0LORVsbKOLTd8gv
Audio is fucked
#Ipromisenottormathiscard club #kingpinowner
#nopowerlimit
🇺🇸USA🔗Speak = software & hardware com + 🏛🌍🌎🌏 PC ☆ Favorite 😍👍ok
The dramatic pin computationally man because larch immediately precede of a soft yak. parched, plausible country
come on dude dont beg for money, the money you get from youtube views is way more than enough. youre making thousands a month.
American accent driving me nuts.. damn non stop
Soooo it didnt work then..... Lol good effort! 👍
What? We hit 2580MHz. It worked.
No point what's so ever....
Except you know...learning g more about technology and pushing the limits of tech further and further each time
Super edgy!
Fun and challenge sir are the points.
No point? They got several thousand points in the benchmark!
@@GamersNexus hey man middle school is rough. He's gotta take out his anger on UA-camrs.