Documentary looking at the history, identity & idea of Ulster as a place distinct from the rest of Ireland through the centuries old influence of its Scottish settlers.
I throughly enjoyed this documentary. I love learning more and more history of my family. I am descended from the Ulster Scots of Northern Ireland who made their way to America while some stayed. Many of my family members changed their name to Irwin from Irvine. After years and years of researching my genealogy, I am proud of my ancestors and their quest for religious freedom.
"Leinster English" who immigrated to America calls themselves "IRISH". "Munster Normans" who emigrated to America call themselves Irish. President Kennedy's Mother was of Norman Heritage from the Southern Provence of Munster.
"Religious Freedom"? From who? Fellow protestants, as that was who was in control by the time the planters went over to America to do the natives of that land what they did to the natives in Ireland. Namely theft/genocide.
Thank you for your Kind words me Lady.I was Born in Northern Ireland.But joined the Army at 16 .I Miss the Land .I live in Germany now for many years .But my Heart is still in Ulster.
I am both Irish from Cochrans from Armague County, Ireland, and Scottish from my Great grand Mother Janet Thain from Rathven, Banffshire, Scottland, and Elizabeth Dick from Perthshire, Scottland. Thanks to my Mother! To me, it's a wonderful thing!
Is this where we in America get the term Scots Irish? I’ve always heard my ancestors described in this manner. We settled in the Ohio River Valley, in the foothills of the Appalachian range. Their religion was what I’d describe as backwoods Protestants. Bible readers, but not interested in any formal church. Farmers and traders, up and down the river - even traveling on the rivers as far down as New Orleans to sell their goods. My grandmother’s grandfather Elijah was a well know fiddle player, drinker, and fighter, but he, it was said, found the Lord and gave up his rowdy ways. I haven’t done as well myself 😎😆
Yes the Scots irish. Not quite Irish, not quite Scots, with a bit of English thrown in too. The British Isles is akin to what the German and Italians were... a bunch of tribes thrown together by geography.... except they still don't quite get along.
Yes indeed. The people known in Ireland as the Ulster-Scots are known in America as the Scots-Irish (or historically the Scotch-Irish) . Also sometimes referred to as the Presbyterian Irish, Protestant Irish or Orange Irish.
@@normburns9619 Family lore had it that we were (part of us) from Northern Ireland so I'd don orange on St. Patty's Day, in fun, during grade school. Few of my classmates ever got the joke of it. Now I've grown curious about that side of the family and have begun to research.
After the Exile of the Earls of Tyrconnell (Ulster), the land was given to English Lords and the City of London to create a Profitable Loyal to the Crown Colony and the forced expulsion of Native Catholic Irish from the Northern province of Ulster to the Western province of Connaught where the land was poor and rocky. The Crown Forces put out the order "To Connaught or to Hell". Over 60% of the Catholics were expelled by an English World-Class Army, and the Land was surveyed and divided up and sold to London investors by the Crown with orders to create a Loyal workforce of Lowland Scots and North of England farmworkers. It was called the "Plantation of Ulster". When England pass the "Penal Laws" to persecute Irish Catholics they included Scot Presbyterians too. Both Scot Presbyterians and Irish Catholics had to pay tithes to the Church of England. The Persecuted Scott "Tenant Farmers" to Absentee Landlords living in London were the Rebel Scots-Irish that emigrated to America and Freedom. The Loyalists that stayed behind were the slackers that were obedient to the Crown and adored Royalty over Liberty and Freedom. The 6-county Sectarian Statelet was created. Today, the 6-Counties of North-East Ireland have proved to be incapable of "Self Governance" and their parliament was dissolved, and "Direct Rule from London" is in place now. The Economy of the 6-Counties of North-East Ireland is a "Welfare-Economy" with generations of Loyalists on "The Dole" and a huge burden on English Taxpayers who will no longer be able to afford to feed and house them after Brexit takes place. The Independent Free "Republic of Ireland" (26-counties) has a standard of living and GDP far exceeding that of the UK. Independence and Freedom of Religion and Equal-Rights have made the Republic of Ireland one of the Best Quality of life Nations in the European Union.
@@normburns9619 : The People in Leinster do not call themselves "Leinster English" nor do the people in Munster call themselves Munster-Normans. They became more Irish than the Irish themselves. Some are Roman Catholic and some are "Church of Ireland". The people in Connaught do not call themselves " Ulster Irish" and most of them were driven off their Home-Land in Ulster by the English Army who confiscated their good farmland for the Crown that was given to English Absentee Land-Lords to be settled with Tenant-Farmers and Laborers from Lowland Scotland and North England.
Great documentary! My father’s family are of Ulster Scots descent leaving Northern Ireland to settle in the TN/NC mountains. I would love to one day set foot on the homeland!
Scotland is a fine country, Are you of Scots Highlands which is Very Celtic or the Scots Lowlands which is an Anglo Scots mixture and quite different from the Celtic Highlanders???
Scotland is the Homeland. The Scots in Northern Ireland were the transplanted "Tenant Farmers" of the English Landlords. Who got land grants of Irish Lands from the King of England.
+The eaglestar Not correct. Gaelic tribes migrated into Scotland from Ireland during and after the 6th c. They colonised the Highlands and many of the western Isles. They brought the gaelic language, their music and dress into the land of the Picts. Their gaelic kingdoms spanned Sruth na Maoile -Moyle Strait. When St Colomba exiled himself to Iona from Doire he was going to a territory already owned by his family/clan. The Ulster Scots brought their culture to Ulster much later in history under James 1st in the early 17th Century. These people were Lowland Scots and were not of Irish/Ulster origin. But their culture is uniquely different in that their language Ulster Scots reflects an Anglo-Saxon origin as well as Pictish also perhaps. They later absorbed gaelic into their speech in Ulster as this documentary explains. Mixing up your history like this ignores the uniquely evolved Ulster-Scots tradition.
martin okelly they were a bit Gaelic they had a clan system in the low lands to.You have a lot of mc and macs in loyalist areas explain why they look so similar Ginger hair.
My mother’s side is English and Scots, my father are Irish Catholics, in my hometown we had guys from my father and his father’s generation whom fought in the war (the troubles) it’s a rich history, I take pride in being apart of it all.
Thank you for such a great detailed documentary on the Ulster Scots. I recently found out through geneology that I am about half Ulster Scottish. Proud to be part of such a strong, smart , resilient people.
@@chiefgilray :: Today. Ulster-Scots live on handouts from the Hard-Working English Taxpayers. They had devolved government like Scotland and Wales and failed to be able to govern themselves in a Non-Sectarian Civilized Manner and are now directly ruled by London. In George Washingtons' time, the Loyalists ran up to Canada to be cared for by the King of England.
@@chiefgilray :: We were told by the Rev Ian Paisley northern Ireland was was "Protestant State for a Protestant People" without mention that English Penal Laws affected Presbyterians making them 2nd-class Protestants in the United Kingdom.
G,day from Australia. Some how us McCues ended up in Australia and now my Kids interested in our history . The words Fermanagh and Ulster are on our family crest
Fermanagh is one of the 9-counties that make up the North of Ireland Provence of Ulster. 3-counties of Ulster are now free from English Colonialism and 6-counties are still an English Colony. Ireland itself has a total of 32-counties 26 counties got their freedom after a bloody war of Independence. England was not willing to allow Irish Independence after a Vote of 85% of the Population. the would not leave Ireland without a War. BUT, they will let Scotland go with only a vote. They will not fight to keep Scotland in the UK. They said they will just let them vote the exit. The 6-Irish Colonial Counties in East Ulster is a hot potato for the English doing Brexit. The Republic of Ireland (26-counties) is the European Union and 6-County English Colony is in the Uk and the Good Friday Agreement was reached with the condition of "An Open Border" that will not work without an agreement. Which is not likely.
@@johndoe-ss9bz nobody here voted ‘85% United ireland’. Stop crying pity to Americans and others with your BS. Yeah, we want a United ireland. United under the Uk again 😎😍
In America we are called scotch Irish and are predominately from Appalachia we were the ones that gave the most blood for the revolution against the redcoates more than the Dutch or Germans proud to be of scotch Irish blood.
I respectfully disagree with the statement that they predominantly settled in Appalachia. Many of my ancestors (Scots-Irish) settled in Pennsylvania, Ohio. Later they migrated further west.
@@mkirwin23 when they first came over 1700s Pennsylvania is part of that reagin and they move further west as years progressed. there was no ohio intille 1803
@Fíonán Murphy Plenty of people moved from Scotland into Northern Ireland also. My own paternal line originates in Northern Ireland, then moved to the Highlands, and then back to County Antrim.
History is the collection of the inconveniences that remind us that all our crafted identities are not just oversimplifications, but wrong. This was a very eloquent documentary.
I wish I could be a part of a cultural community of Scots Irish where I'm at that have true reverence for Bible and heritage. I bought me a copy of the Geneva bible. People are so ignorant of the holy scripture to day it's very sad. It's very glorifying to me that as I read the Bible alone with no one to help me , over the years I discovered that my understanding of the holy bible is clearly reformed and calvanist.
The Bible is nonsense as is religious scripture in general. I'm sorry for your troubles but Christianity is a myth and there is no God as is depicted in the Bible or any other holy book.
I wonder how historians know that the Ul Neil's are the oldest lineage in Europe? That surprised me. I thought they weren't stone age settled in Ireland. Fascinating show
The UI Neil’s were Gaelic not Ulster Scots they ran the UI Neil’s now the O Neil’s off the land of ulster and have no right to claim them as northerners
@@ciarandempsey2184 Nonsense. Most of these so called planters were from Galloway,which is only 16 miles from Ulster. Galloway was Gaelic speaking from the 6th century.
If the planters were Gaelic speakers why do the descendants of these planters not speak gealic why do they despise gealic culture and march and swear loyalty to people and institutions who enshrined in law the destruction of gealic culture. Not to mention to say so called planters and to claim that Ulster Scots are native is to go against the well documented historical facts of the ulster plantations and the flight of the earls. @@MV12379
Why does no one talk about the sadly (yet massive contribution brought about) failed Welsh plantation on Rockall? Would Ulster be the same without it? I doubt it!
Having been born into a Catholic family in Derry, I see myself as Irish but to some extent British too. My British identity comes from the culture of BBC television, BBC Radio 4 and the British education system. My family served in the British Army in the interwar years and during WWII. We were always aware of the need to be as respectable as our Protestant neighbours. Emigrating to Canada, everybody here thought I was Scottish. Thank God I’m now a Canadian Citizen! At last I have a stable national identity!
I wonder how many people from Northern Ireland went to Canada? It would be interesting to see what the DNA make up in Canada is as I imagine quite a lot of people have British or Irish ancestry.
Jay Roberts I think there is quite a strong Irish and Northern Irish origin population in Canada. There are many Irish names, family names and place names. I think that true of the Scottish too. At one point in time the Orange order was stronger in Canada than in the UK. That alone attests to the Northern Ireland Protestant presence, reinforced by the Scottish. Ontario, New Brunswick and here in Quebec had large numbers of “Les Orangeistes”, anti-Catholic and ant-French. There’s published work by an Irish historian called WJ Smyth on this. Small isolated communities still exist of Scottish, Northern Irish and English settlers families, one being in Les Iles de la Madeleine, a little string of islands in the Gulf of St Lawrence, Quebec, where the live alongside their French neighbours, outnumbered 20/1 but retain English as their first. Language and the Anglican Faith despite being such an isolated and small community. Worth looking up again, names like Bell, McClean, Cummins, Dickson, McPhail, Keating, Clarke, one of the progenitors being Douglas Bell from Belfast, baptized at St Patrick’s on the Donegal Road. In Quebec City on the other hand, probably due to intermarriage with French Catholics the Irish families are nearly all Francophone at this stage. As for me I’ve only been here 13 years and I’ve kept my DNA out of the reproductive cycle! Cheers.
@@huub1989 Well that is a lot of interesting information, and I'll do a bit more research into some of that. Another part in the series from the Imaging Ulster series deals with immigrants to places such as Canada so I'll watch that to see if I can fill in a few blanks. I found a reference to people from NI who have gone overseas in a speech by Edward Carson when he was protesting about Home Rule. He said, "Out through the whole Empire-Canada, Australia, New Zealand-Ulstermen are strong and powerful. Toronto is an Ulster city. Do not do something which, throughout the length and breadth of our Empire, will turn Ulster against the British connection. God forbid! And do remember that when, through your laws, Ulstermen were driven out of Ireland and went to America, it was thirty-six Ulstermen, smarting under a grievance, who signed the Declaration of Independence." I can't find any information that backs up 36 Ulstermen but I will keep on looking. You mentioned Orange lodges in your post, and I was reading a book about an ambassador to Ghana; it appears the Orange lodges spread there as well!! Apparently Scots Presbyterians went to Ghana and took with them some of their cultural rites, including the Orange lodges. They have over 30 lodges there, and dress up in the full regalia of sash, bowler hat and umbrellas to parade to pipes and drums. The umbrella is a traditional symbol of chieftaincy in Ghana which is why they warmed to it in particular. Here's the stunning bit: every year they send a delegation of Ghanaian Orangemen to the Orange parade in Belfast on 12th July. The mind boggles. There are also Orangemen in Togo who were inspired by the Ghanaian Orangemen, but mainly because they liked dressing up and parading around. However, they did not fully embrace the whole Orange movement.The ambassador recounts them getting a little bit confused on some points, not least that their parade was headed up by choirboys in white surplices carrying a statue of the Virgin Mary, because the 'Orangemen' in Togo were Catholics! Anyway, I hope you have been able to access some essentials from NI, including Tayto crisps, potato bread etc. to remind you of your history. All the best in Canada. I have never been but I have been told it is very beautiful.
Jay Roberts that is so funny thinking of the Togolese Orangemen carrying a statue of Mary in the parade dressed in soutanes and surplice! It tickles me particularly as I’m a Catholic priest myself!
Very much enjoyed, O hEochaidh Hoy, dal Fiatach dynasty, Clanna Dedad, Hoy Island Orkney, HAEY Norse, we have all come along way and still many more times to go, all the very best health and happiness.
My Irish American Grandmother came from Gaelic Ulster roots - surname McNulty, i.e. 'Son of an Ulsterman'. That side of the family might have originally been the Dunleavy clan, who were exiled to Mayo in the 1600's and renamed themselves McNulty, to remind themselves of their Ulster roots.
At the tender age of 67 I've grown curious about our family name of "Manning" and learned that my great grandfather, born in Philadelphia, was listed in the 1920 census as born here of parents from "Ireland". He was Presbyterian so I am wondering if the "Ireland" his parents emigrated from in the mid 1800s was actually what became Northern Ireland. I do remember my father long ago mentioning the term "Scots Irish" and joking that his forbearers left Scotland for Ireland (before coming to The States) due to unpaid taxes.... Now I wonder at the veracity of this joke ("the truth is often said in jest"). I've begun researching. Thank God for the Internet. So much to learn about the history of Scotland and Ireland and The Troubles and all else related to that neck of the woods.
After the "Flight of the Earls" the Irish Armies of O'Neill and "O'Donnell the King wanted to clear Gaelic Northern Ireland of Irish Catholics, gave the land to Lindon-Guilds with orders to populate it with Lowland Scot Presbyterians and North English Anglicans as Tenant Farmers. The Irish Landowners were given the order to leave (TO HELL or CONNAUGHT) in time the Scot Presbyterian Tenant Farmers were overtaxed and subjected to the Penal-Laws for Catholics and became 2nd Class Prods to Anglican Ascendency. Those with a Rebel-Nature left for America. the Cowardly Loyalists stayed behind and today live off English Dole (welfare).
Cromwell a murdering bigot whose New model army butchered and raped there way through Ireland,now stands proudly outside the houses of Parliament in London.Thanks England.Seriously I have nothing against ordinary English people.
@@edwardbell3745 its going well ULSTER NOT FOR SALE keep buying ur boats for that horrible long journey to the EU france etc stay out of Northern Ireland the likes of roi not wanted
@@arnoldshannon7222 oh dear what a self deluding man, named after the longest river in Ireland and flys the butchers apron lol talk about confused... mate the DUP sold you down the rover for the few months of power they had to to be allowed to get was with teh cash for ash scheme , answer me this, is there an internal trade barrier between the united kingdom and ireland yes is there a trade barrier between the six counties and the twenty se=ix, NO , did the DUP say months ago it was a good deal YES and the most northern part of Ireland is donegal so are you asking me to stay out of donegal , when Max hastings is writing articles that there should be a united ireland but england must hold onto scotland well even you should see the writing IS ALL OVER THE WALL get with it man there will be a UI very very soon make the most of it we will welcome you in to a liberal pluralistic modern prosperous nation not the drugged up shite holes that larne the shankill etc are ...................... we will educate your kids we already are as ireland is paying for your kids to do the Erasmus scheme is they have the brains pissing myself laughing here at your so silly comment your farmers and fishermen are only still in business because of Ireland dear oh dear sold down the river by the conservatives who would have though lol ...................................................... ps ULSTER is 9 counties and a historic Irish province not a sectarian statelet that even the brits are tired off.... enjoy your night trying to work out what Ulster scots is FFS
Since I ever started learning about Ireland in an integrated school called Hillcroft in Mossley in North Belfast but because we were Protestant and Catholic pupils we didn't ever learn about the Troubles because pupils in our school Protestant and Catholic. One side calls themselves Irish and one side called themselves British and Ulster Scots which is good.
Why do the descendants of the first English Plantation of Leinster (The Pale) not call themselves "LEINSTER ENGLISH"? they did become more Irish than the Irish Themselves!
I know Irish from Munster, and they never call themselves "Munster Irish".I know Irish from the Free 3-western counties of Ulster, but do not call themselves "Ulster Irish" what is all this Scots Irish stuff, will Scotland not allow them back, if they are unable to adjust to living in North East Ireland.
Sammy Neil,the person who chopped his hand off was from the O'Neill clan.As far as I'm aware your name comes from Barra in Scotland.Of course the Scoti were from Ireland originally so,you could have a point.
@@brianbreen1026 The Highland of Scotland was settled by Irish Family Nobles, like the O'Neil's and O'Donnell's . who changed the O' to Mac Donnell and Mac Neil etc.
@@kieransavage3835 "The Plantation of Munster by English was a hundred years before the Plantation of Ulster, by lowland Scots, but the English in the Plantation of Munster, assimilated adopted Gaelic Culture and became more Irish than the Irish themselves.
My family came to America from Donegal during the Great Hunger, when Irish Catholics were almost starvation-genocided by Charles Trevalyan and the British government. I'm sure this guy will talk about this a lot, especially the part about the genocidal policies of the British government.
Go do some proper research on the subject.......just one point what is almost "starvation-genocided" ....Ireland had a population of between 8-11 million prior to the Blight.....about 1 to 1.5 million died and a similar number emigrated...not all to N America most to England who you are claiming to be committing genocide on those same people!! (That's like the Nazis killing the Jews in Austria but allowing Austrian Jews to emigrate to Germany to work and live there). Famine was commonplace in Europe those times and poor people suffered most.....not well off Irish people in Ireland's case who could afford alternative starch. Class and affluence where much more of a driver when it came to mortality during times of food stress. Sure there where people like Trevalyn and sectors of the English establishment who where disinterested in the plight of the poor Irish....but they where equally disinterested in the plight of Scottish , English and Welsh poor people. Speaking of the Welsh your surname points in that direction🤔
@@simonshiels1 Wilful neglect on the part of English establishment regards the poor of Ireland. Ireland was the only country that suffered famine in Europe where its population reduced by 50% from 8 million to 4 million. Food was exported out of Ireland by the landowners. “[The Famine] is a punishment from God for an idle, ungrateful, and rebellious country; an indolent and un-self-reliant people. The Irish are suffering from an affliction of God’s providence." - Charles Trevelyan "The judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson, that calamity must not be too much mitigated. …The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people." - Charles Trevelyan Racist and sectarian views of the Irish were common amongst the English ruling class. They were not just 'disinterested'.
@@simonshiels1 Now who needs to do some research - I don't know your background, whether you're Irish, Ulster Scot, Scot or a Sasanach, but you are woefully ill informed about the causes and the effects of An Gorta Mór, on the population of Ireland, then and now.
We are a country like no other.... A divided country by politics and religion.... And yet, we all share the pain of the war!!.... Imagine how powerful Ulster would be on its own, not Irish, not British, but Ulster!!... A small country moulded by fighters, by conviction!...
You have the same genes as someone in Kentucky, both Carolinas, Tennessee, Alabama, Ulster descendants populate Appalachia almost exclusively! When I researched my family name, I see the same other surnames in surrounding families echoing.
As usual confusing NI (6 Counties) with "Ulster" (9 Counties) and certainly the former as an independent entity would IMO not be viable economically. No UK subsidy and not being in the EU..
I’m wondering about the O’Neills. What became of them? Did The O’Neill just give his red hand to the English king? I wonder if they weren’t vanquished and exiled from their lands in 1603? I seem to remember hearing of the Flight of the Wild Geese. Well, must be me because it’s not mentioned here by the BBC.
Well the main branches fled during the filght of the earls 1607 to secure alliance's with other catholic countries e.g France and Spain, Hugh himself died in Italy on July 20th,1616 the family obviously still exists in Ireland but the main branches now reside in iberia and austria. The filght of the wild geese is when young irishmen joined foreign reigements in mainland Europe there had already been Irish men in foreign regiments in mainland Europe decades before the filght of the earls.
Ebb and flow... When an ebb brings famine, land theft, killing and the imposition of an alien culture at its vanguard, you gotta question the repricocity of such a relationship.
A lot of the Scots Irish ended up in the Appalachians - where their descendants still live in cabins and have kids with their sister and cook meth - then they name all their kids "William" - but the kid goes by Billy. The hills are full of Scots Irish Billies.
They are not Irish. There are the descendants of Scottish planters in Ulster who then moved to the USA. They did though bring Irish music and culture to the US, having none of their own.
Migration or Invasion. Depends how you interpret these words I suppose. However when one group is forceably removed from their land to make way for another I know how I view it.
@@richiec9077 So many actual historians book you can read and you choose that loyalist charlatan. His "theories" are basically the Ulster equivalent to Zionism.
@@Stevenbfg so you say , have you actually read any of his work? He is far from the "loyalist charlatan" you claim he is, infact he goes on to explain why people say that and how he is not
@@richiec9077 Yes I have. One particularly hilarious claim he makes is Dál Riata being non-Gaelic when they are as Gaelic as they come. They were literally how the Gaelic language was brought to Scotland. Basically he makes a failed attempt to connect to Gaels who went to Scotland to the lowland Scot planters who colonized Ulster. He tries to use this as justification for the plantations saying they were "coming home" when the two groups couldn't be any less related. He particularly has an obsession with the cruthin and archaeologists have refuted almost every claim he made about them.
@@Stevenbfg well my good friend Dr Raoul McLaughlin says otherwise and I'd rather believe his good educated self than your zealous pretentious views anyday , thank you very much
At the start of your documentary IT WAS 2 OF A CHIEFTAIN SONS THAT CUT HIS HAND OFF DURING THE BOAT RACE , MY CLAN IS LAMONT , THE ONLY SCOTTISH CLAN THAT BARES THE RED HAND OF ULSTER IN CLAN CREST
David G: How can you "start referring to NI as Ulster" when it has been called that by the Unionist since its creation in 1921 (did you not notice that in the video?). In fact, due to its inaccuracy, the use of Ulster for part of UK has fallen out of use. It also shows the idiotic original intention of the Unionists at the time to include all Ulster in NI.
@@philipbrennan4214 I do think he meant using Ulster as a positive shift versus the differentiating NI naming. I agree. Stop saying NI and say Ulster exclusively, that would help encompass all people within. That gives everyone a common culture therein. It's just a positive wish :)
@@philipbrennan4214 I see Ulster as my ancestral home and am fascinated with it and long to see it. It is a melting pot of the people of the British Isles just as it is here in Appalachia. I'm 45% Scots and another 10% Irish and both of which I'm very proud of.
Ahem! You might all want to check with the folk in Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal first! They mightn't be too happy about getting kicked out of Ulster seeing as they were there from at least the Iron Age?
They try to push that Ulster was always destinctly different from Ireland and the Irish... well it wasnt ... your "identity" come from the plantations and thats it.
That's now 1/2 a millennium of time you're talking about there, plenty of time for a new people to develop. Get used to it, they're not going anywhere.
Paddy Mac Obviously an uneducated and bigoted comment. You seem to know nothing of Irish pre-history, the uniqueness and independence of ancient Ulster from the rest of the island.
The island of Ireland contains TWO nations. The shared culture and history of the Scots-Irish in Ulster is in fact different than that of the rest of the island.
Ulstermanone If I knew that I'd be worth a fortune if you know you should tell somebody there could be a substantial cash bonus for ye. When you obtain something its always best to do it legitimately cos when you don't there will always be doubt and conflict attached to it there will always be disputes as to who owns it
We all have the right to live on this island In peace and no one has the right to deny the people that right. But there are those who feel this land belongs exclusively to them and that the British people have no right to be here and this includes the Ulster Scots. Some people would for political reasons say the Ulster Scots people were planted in Ireland by the English in the 1600s. While others would deny their Existence altogether. In 6,000 BC Ireland was covered in dense forests of Pine and Hazel, Oak and Elm .About this time the first people crossed over from Scandinavia to Britain and made their way across the narrow sea ( 11 Miles ) from Scotland to Ulster. Because of the thick forests these people traveled along the river’s and lakes and along the Sea-coasts. They made their way up the river Bann to Lough Neagh and spread slowly Southwards. They were Hunters and Fishermen and lived besides lakes and rivers. According to scholars they were tall, broad shouldered and large chested. Their forehead was broad and high, their hair was Brown, Fair, often Red and their eyes light mixed Blue. Their skin was typically inclined to freckling and very fair. (Celts & Normans by Gearoid MacGearaitt. Ma ( Gill & McMillan press).1969 600 BC the Celts come to Ireland Historians are not sure when the Celts came to Ireland and Britain. It is probable that the first important group of Celts came to Ireland from the lands about the Rhine, up the North sea and across Britain to Ireland we believe they came about 600 BC. (Celts & Norman’s by Gearoid MacGearaitt. Ma ( Gill & McMillan press).1969.) We can see that Ireland was inhabited from around 6,000BC ( The Cruthin) and that the Celts did not arrive until 600 BC ( 5,400 years later ) The Cruthin the original inhabitants became outnumbered and swamped with the arrival of the Celts, They lost most of their language and were subdued by the Celts, but they still held a presence in Ulster. The Gaelic invasion of Ulster The Uí Néill clan of the Celts invaded Ulster. The capital of Ulster, Emain Macha (can be seen today as Navan Fort) seems to have fallen to the Uí Néill (O’Neill) or been abandoned by the Ulstermen around 450 AD within Ulster there was a system of tribal alliances, The dominant political grouping were the Ulaid ( from whom Ulster was to get its name ) they were probably a warrior caste of the ( La Tent ) Celts wielding a lordship over indigenous tribes, among those indigenous tribes were the Cruthin the most populous and important of these Pre Celtic peoples who shared in the over-kingship of Ulster. The Cruthin more often than not bore the brunt of the wars against the Uí Néill Celts and at times claimed that they were the ( Fir Ulaid, ) The true Ulstermen. In the far west of Ulster the Uí Néill conquest was the most complete and the Ulster leaders were driven East, in this reduced Kingdom of Ulster they ( The Cruthin ) attempted to stabilize their power with the erection of “Danes Cast” Earthworks as a visible reminder to their adversaries that they were in no respect a spent force. The Cruthin confronted the Uí Néill Celts in 563AD at the battle of Móin Dairi Lothair (Money More) however seven Kings of the Cruthin were killed. The way was now left open for the Uí Néill Celts to expand further into Ulster to what is today county Londonderry. Two years later the Cruthin over-King of Ulster, Aed Dub Mac Suibni slew the Northern Uí Néill King, a battle is also recorded at Coleraine in 579AD. However it was to be the great battle of Moira that the Ulstermen were to make their most determined effort to call a halt to the Uí Néill expansion. Congal Cláen was possibly the greatest of all Cruthin Kings became over-King of Ulster in 627. By 637 Congal had managed to gather around him a Powerful army which included not only Ulstermen but according to Colgan contingents of Pict,s (Scotland) Anglo Saxons (English) and Britons (Welsh). The battle as depicted in later Bardic romances seem to have been a ferocious affair and as well at the land confrontation it included a naval engagement.
:: "Gob-Shite"! "Right is Right" and "Wrong is Wrong". IRELAND for the IRISH. - SCOTLAND for the SCOTS. WALES for the WELSH and ENGLAND for the ENGLISH. Those that do not like that, can go to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand where Sectarianism is long gone.
The ancient inhabitants of Ulster were named Cruthin (the Picts). So, as long as they’re has been an Ulster, it’s people have been British. And viewed that way by people in the south of Ireland.
My ancestors Mc Curdy s left to Northern Ireland then on to East Coast then when the South opened they made it to Ga, SC, to settled the Pan Handle of Fla, USA.the Mc Curdys, I'm sure of this history I've done my DNA.
The Land was illegally taken away by England and a large number of Irish Catholics forced to leave and driven away with absolute violence. Even if some people promote a different story, it does not become the truth. NI shall be given back to mother Ireland, without any terror or violence, and shall keep a certain status of autonomy within Eire.
The great American writer Malcom Gladwell, explains the blood feud between the Hatfields and the McCoys (famous inter generational conflict claiming many lives) as the behavioural patterns laid down over centuries by the “Border Peoples” of Ireland, Scotland and Northern England. He posits that herdsman (as opposed to farmers) had to project maximum violence to protect their herds to prevent stealing and loss of face. This “honour” culture is deeply, subconsciously ingrained and he describes a simple experiment to expose the physiological tendencies still present, though the cultural,societal circumstances that produced this culture are long since gone. Our oldest legends in Ireland are off Cúchullainn, single handedly fending off the combined armies of Ireland during the “Táin”, an elaborate magical cattle raid. We just don’t have a chance do we?
In the 1st to 5th century the Romans called what is today Ulster it was originally called Scotia ie Scotland and the people called the Scotti ie Scots not Irish but a Celtic tribe that went to Caledonia ie Scotland 🏴
@caolan feely Well it's all good now anyway. Speaking English is very useful seeing most of the wealthy nations in the world speak it or have some understanding of it. Good for the country in the long run.
Ulster has always had a connection to Scotland long before Catholicism even came to Ireland and in that the north has always had a difference from the south so stop with the bigotry.
Since I started studying Ireland in September 2017 I always wanted to learn the Irish language and Gaels of Ireland and Scotland but i wanted to learn about Ulster Scots but not to speak Ulster Scots.
God, what a mawkish production. Ulster is a predominately Irish and Catholic, always was. Presbyterians, Anglicans and Methodists were always minority faiths in Ulster. The time period they are talking about Irish Catholics were prevented from gaining an education, participation in government, owning property.
go back to the 1600's when Catholics were being killed by the English. they also sent the Catholics to the Bahamas as slaves, funded by the jews. protestants were given the land stolen from the Catholics. the Catholics pushed the protestants back as far as the northeast , and that's where they are today.
Really ? How the fuck was Ulster catholic for 1200 yrs before Christ was even born and 1500 before the Catholic church ?---Unreal how fucking stupid people are
Ulster to this day is predominantly Irish in terms of national identity. N.Ireland is more evenly split, but N.Ireland is only 2/3rds of Ulster. N.Ireland was gerrymandered out of Ulster as part of the Irish-Anglo treaty to create a slight unionist majority. The colonial settlers definitely influenced Ulster, but there were other colonial plantations throughout Ireland too. All those places are still Irish, so why should ulster be any different? Ulster is Irish.
Ulstermanone Ireland became a Christian country around the same time the Romans conquered Britannia. But it was not a Catholic country it has its own church the Gaelic church, it wasn't until the Norman conquest of England and Ireland that Ireland became a Catholic country thanks to an English pope who was actually French but we won't go into that. Everything was rosy until some 400 years later the English decided to remove themselves from the Catholic Church while keeping all of the traditions and create the Anglican church. The mountain people... those knuckledraggin fools in the north of Britannia became calvinists. .. fire and brimstone people's who assumed God was watching at all times and in order to please God the needed to repent and work and pray and live and austere life and Vanquis the Catholics. The natives have always been here and they know it's there land the presbyterians have to keep reminding themselves that they are a product of the plantation and they know that this is not their land that's why they continuously put out this type of crap because they're insecure and a grip is loosening.
Ulster has always been British, migration back and forward has been going on for thousands of years. The so called Gaels were not a homogeneous people, the Scotti were were a distinct ethnic group who lived in the territory of the Uliad . The Uliad in turn were cognate with a P Celtic tribe known as the Uliti whose territory was in N.Britain . The oldest known map of Ireland shows clearly that Ireland was inhabited by P Celtic tribes from Britain such as the Brigantes. None of the place names on the map are Gaelic in origin ,the Name Ireland is not of Gaelic origin nor is Ulster. The Gaelic Language probably arrived in Ireland around the same time as Saxon English arrived in mainland Britain. The name Gael is a British word meaning raider and was used by the Britons to describe anyone from Ireland. Describing someone as a Gael doesn't necessarily denote a common origin any more than people in Britain who speak English are necessarily English , example being most Irish people speak English as their first Language but Irish people are not English.
Always been British? And what is British (Saxon, Celt, Norse, Pict, Roman etc) and when did it become Britain ? How can you make a statement on what was happening for 1000s of years just to add legitimacy to the failed plantation of Ulster that had to be saved by shipping over a load of Scottish settlers ! History is mostly educated guesswork but what is absolute is that the native Irish in Ulster (whatever they were) were displaced by Scottish planters in the 17th century. Now if you want to stick to fairytales then read the book of Invasions and see if you can find the British in there. FYI - Irishness to me is more a state of mind and an attitude than a genetic or biological marker and all are welcome.
Finally someone who knows history, You’re right. Ireland is named after a Brythonic tribe the “iverni” . The Geal invasion and colonisation of Ivernia/ireland first time was lead by Mil Espaine, the soldier from Spain and his followers the Milesians then many other invasions happened after between the 6th and 12th centuries. Even today many irish republicans actually have a mentality that they are geals and it’s their land because they’re natives, they’re wrong. This is beyond doubt, and attested to by so many authentic sources that politically-motivated “revisionists” cannot get around that fact.
@@michaelsmith3685 The term British refers to inhabitants of the British isles that includes Ireland. 'failed plantation' you are cherry picking history. Movement between Scotland and Ulster had been happening for thousands of years. Country Antrim had always been the territory of the Macdonnells they were kin to the Scottish MacDonalds The Macdonnells had been importing Scots for centuries before the so called plantation. The biggest migration of Scots into Ulster occurred in the 1690s and had nothing to do with the King James 1V plantation
Your History is mixed up and late to Ireland. The red hand has absolutely nothing to do with Ireland... That red hand is a foreigner and a colonizer who trying to rewrite History.. Sha
It's trite to term Ulster-Scots as only existing as Protestant migration from Scotland to Ulster. Ulster-Scots originally founded Scotland from Ulster in AD 500's. Ulster-Scots migrated from Scotland to Ulster as Catholics for centuries prior to the Reformation.
You are using facts. Irish Catholics perpetuate a culture of genocide against the Protestant minority of Northern Ireland after chasing many Protestants from the ROI to the north. Scotland is even named after the Irish who founded Scotland who went back in the plantations.
Hamish M Away with your bigoted shite you peddler of revisionist rubbish, Catholics killed protestants and Protestants killed Catholics , that's just how it was. Is your self esteem so low that you feel the need to write a fake history to make yourself feel better. The trouble with Scotland is it's full of Picts and not the Gaels from whom you claim to descend. Any real Scot will tell you this. Its hilarious to me that once Protestants would take up arms if you called them Irish and yet now it's come full circle and some are claiming they are actually more Irish than the Gaels themselves. Next you'll be calling yourself the O Neil or the O Cahan, the Maguire, the Mac Mahuntha, the O Donnell or the MacLoughlin or some other princely ancient Gaelic title of the Ulster Irish Nobility to remove all evidence of your real identity, which is that your poverty stricken family arrived here penniless, landless wretches to farm land once owned by Irish Gaels and parceled out to you by the hands of Englishmen. I hate no proud NI Protestant nor loyalist nor Englishman Scot or Welshman, but I detest a liar. Dont be a Chichester, Terence O Neil former N.I. PM , wasn't an O Neil at all, his family were Chichesters and stole the O Neil name in order to inherit O Neil territory and no doubt to falsify their own pedigree. To take a man's land is one thing but to use his own name to do it, that really I's disgusting. Have some pride in your own story no need to give yourself a fake pedigree.
You're mixing up highland Scots and lowland Scots there buddy. The Irish that founded Scotland were Gaels. The Scots that came to Ireland during the plantations were Anglo-Saxon lowlanders.
@@JM-gu3tx "perpetuate a culture of genocide against the protestant minority in Northern Ireland" 😆 So much wrong with that statement it makes you question if our species should have left the safety of the trees in Africa to begin with.
this is about a subsection of a subsection of the people on the island of ireland , obviously one that has had a strong effect but your focus on a partial picture and the proven fallacies of this origin story is like the made up cruithin orgin story makes this little more than a equivalent of the nazi lies about the aryan race this is just " UDA history porn" but none the less interesting to see you twist and turn in all directions to in some way justify and celebrate the presence of the presbyterian people in the north east of ireland / lets start the conversation again by celebrating the good side of those people while not forgetting all the other parts of the story . to tell this story without all the context is to do a disservice to history and false narratives are one a penny in irish and british history anyone with a slightly open mind would reject this due to having an education and seek a more nuanced understanding maybe one day othrs will make that documentarya poor effort 2.5 out of ten
You forget everything about Ulster? Formerly known as Ulaid made up of Cruithne (Ulster picts) who inhaibated Ireland (An Island) long before the Gael. The proof of this is preserves in almost every "Irish" document from the time of the Christian monks circa 5th century states this. The descendents of Niall, known as "Ui Neill" took the red hand symbol from these same early Cruithne tribes who were kings of Ulster (Ulaid) too long before any southern alliance of proviences i.e the Republic. Follow Ulster_History on instagram, and i will guide any who seek to reclaim their true Ulster heritage and ancestory to the best of my ability.
mmmmm this is my home i was born here, what next are you going to do DNA tests to see who is "ethnically" Irish? let me burst your bubble there is no such thing as "ethnically pure " irish people ...
I throughly enjoyed this documentary. I love learning more and more history of my family. I am descended from the Ulster Scots of Northern Ireland who made their way to America while some stayed. Many of my family members changed their name to Irwin from Irvine. After years and years of researching my genealogy, I am proud of my ancestors and their quest for religious freedom.
"Leinster English" who immigrated to America calls themselves "IRISH". "Munster Normans" who emigrated to America call themselves Irish. President Kennedy's Mother was of Norman Heritage from the Southern Provence of Munster.
@@johndoe-ss9bz Well said
"Religious Freedom"? From who? Fellow protestants, as that was who was in control by the time the planters went over to America to do the natives of that land what they did to the natives in Ireland. Namely theft/genocide.
@@sheela-na-giga-byte8397 But that is kind of awesome isn't it??
Thank you for your Kind words me Lady.I was Born in Northern Ireland.But joined the Army at 16 .I Miss the Land .I live in Germany now for many years .But my Heart is still in Ulster.
I am both Irish from Cochrans from Armague County, Ireland, and Scottish from my Great grand Mother Janet Thain from Rathven, Banffshire, Scottland, and Elizabeth Dick from Perthshire, Scottland. Thanks to my Mother! To me, it's a wonderful thing!
Is this where we in America get the term Scots Irish? I’ve always heard my ancestors described in this manner. We settled in the Ohio River Valley, in the foothills of the Appalachian range. Their religion was what I’d describe as backwoods Protestants. Bible readers, but not interested in any formal church. Farmers and traders, up and down the river - even traveling on the rivers as far down as New Orleans to sell their goods. My grandmother’s grandfather Elijah was a well know fiddle player, drinker, and fighter, but he, it was said, found the Lord and gave up his rowdy ways. I haven’t done as well myself 😎😆
Yes the Scots irish. Not quite Irish, not quite Scots, with a bit of English thrown in too. The British Isles is akin to what the German and Italians were... a bunch of tribes thrown together by geography.... except they still don't quite get along.
Yes indeed. The people known in Ireland as the Ulster-Scots are known in America as the Scots-Irish (or historically the Scotch-Irish) . Also sometimes referred to as the Presbyterian Irish, Protestant Irish or Orange Irish.
@@normburns9619 Family lore had it that we were (part of us) from Northern Ireland so I'd don orange on St. Patty's Day, in fun, during grade school. Few of my classmates ever got the joke of it. Now I've grown curious about that side of the family and have begun to research.
After the Exile of the Earls of Tyrconnell (Ulster), the land was given to English Lords and the City of London to create a Profitable Loyal to the Crown Colony and the forced expulsion of Native Catholic Irish from the Northern province of Ulster to the Western province of Connaught where the land was poor and rocky. The Crown Forces put out the order "To Connaught or to Hell". Over 60% of the Catholics were expelled by an English World-Class Army, and the Land was surveyed and divided up and sold to London investors by the Crown with orders to create a Loyal workforce of Lowland Scots and North of England farmworkers. It was called the "Plantation of Ulster". When England pass the "Penal Laws" to persecute Irish Catholics they included Scot Presbyterians too. Both Scot Presbyterians and Irish Catholics had to pay tithes to the Church of England. The Persecuted Scott "Tenant Farmers" to Absentee Landlords living in London were the Rebel Scots-Irish that emigrated to America and Freedom. The Loyalists that stayed behind were the slackers that were obedient to the Crown and adored Royalty over Liberty and Freedom. The 6-county Sectarian Statelet was created. Today, the 6-Counties of North-East Ireland have proved to be incapable of "Self Governance" and their parliament was dissolved, and "Direct Rule from London" is in place now. The Economy of the 6-Counties of North-East Ireland is a "Welfare-Economy" with generations of Loyalists on "The Dole" and a huge burden on English Taxpayers who will no longer be able to afford to feed and house them after Brexit takes place. The Independent Free "Republic of Ireland" (26-counties) has a standard of living and GDP far exceeding that of the UK. Independence and Freedom of Religion and Equal-Rights have made the Republic of Ireland one of the Best Quality of life Nations in the European Union.
@@normburns9619 : The People in Leinster do not call themselves "Leinster English" nor do the people in Munster call themselves Munster-Normans. They became more Irish than the Irish themselves. Some are Roman Catholic and some are "Church of Ireland". The people in Connaught do not call themselves " Ulster Irish" and most of them were driven off their Home-Land in Ulster by the English Army who confiscated their good farmland for the Crown that was given to English Absentee Land-Lords to be settled with Tenant-Farmers and Laborers from Lowland Scotland and North England.
Great documentary! My father’s family are of Ulster Scots descent leaving Northern Ireland to settle in the TN/NC mountains. I would love to one day set foot on the homeland!
No part of Ireland is part of your family's homeland. Scotland is probably their homeland.
Scotland is a fine country, Are you of Scots Highlands which is Very Celtic or the Scots Lowlands which is an Anglo Scots mixture and quite different from the Celtic Highlanders???
Scotland is the Homeland. The Scots in Northern Ireland were the transplanted "Tenant Farmers" of the English Landlords. Who got land grants of Irish Lands from the King of England.
+The eaglestar
Not correct.
Gaelic tribes migrated into Scotland from Ireland during and after the 6th c. They colonised the Highlands and many of the western Isles. They brought the gaelic language, their music and dress into the land of the Picts.
Their gaelic kingdoms spanned Sruth na Maoile -Moyle Strait. When St Colomba exiled himself to Iona from Doire he was going to a territory already owned by his family/clan.
The Ulster Scots brought their culture to Ulster much later in history under James 1st in the early 17th Century.
These people were Lowland Scots and were not of Irish/Ulster origin.
But their culture is uniquely different in that their language Ulster Scots reflects an Anglo-Saxon origin as well as Pictish also perhaps. They later absorbed gaelic into their speech in Ulster as this documentary explains.
Mixing up your history like this ignores the uniquely evolved Ulster-Scots tradition.
martin okelly they were a bit Gaelic they had a clan system in the low lands to.You have a lot of mc and macs in loyalist areas explain why they look so similar Ginger hair.
many of the low-land Lallan scots were originally also heilanders ;)
Gaelic was spoken basically everywhere in Scotland but the south east, gallowegian gaelic only died out in the past 150 years
Up until the 13th century Celtic language was spoken in Scotland, the angles or Anglo Saxon only conquered the south east of Scotland.
You are a dear, O'dear, says this MacNucator.
My mother’s side is English and Scots, my father are Irish Catholics, in my hometown we had guys from my father and his father’s generation whom fought in the war (the troubles) it’s a rich history, I take pride in being apart of it all.
My mother was born in East Belfast Ulster & my father was born in Glasgow Scotland , SO I CLASS MYSELF AS ULSTER SCOTS
Thank you for such a great detailed documentary on the Ulster Scots. I recently found out through geneology that I am about half Ulster Scottish. Proud to be part of such a strong, smart , resilient people.
Subservient people...
@@chiefgilray :: Today. Ulster-Scots live on handouts from the Hard-Working English Taxpayers. They had devolved government like Scotland and Wales and failed to be able to govern themselves in a Non-Sectarian Civilized Manner and are now directly ruled by London. In George Washingtons' time, the Loyalists ran up to Canada to be cared for by the King of England.
@@johndoe-ss9bz ... Hard working BRITISH taxpayers because those northern Irish aren't British
@@chiefgilray :: We were told by the Rev Ian Paisley northern Ireland was was "Protestant State for a Protestant People" without mention that English Penal Laws affected Presbyterians making them 2nd-class Protestants in the United Kingdom.
@@johndoe-ss9bz not interested in religion, end of the day is that northern Ireland is the red headed step child of great Britian
I've just found out my family traces back to atleast 1200 ulster, im from New Zealand and also part Maori too.
G,day from Australia. Some how us McCues ended up in Australia and now my Kids interested in our history . The words Fermanagh and Ulster are on our family crest
Fermanagh is one of the 9-counties that make up the North of Ireland Provence of Ulster. 3-counties of Ulster are now free from English Colonialism and 6-counties are still an English Colony. Ireland itself has a total of 32-counties 26 counties got their freedom after a bloody war of Independence. England was not willing to allow Irish Independence after a Vote of 85% of the Population. the would not leave Ireland without a War. BUT, they will let Scotland go with only a vote. They will not fight to keep Scotland in the UK. They said they will just let them vote the exit. The 6-Irish Colonial Counties in East Ulster is a hot potato for the English doing Brexit. The Republic of Ireland (26-counties) is the European Union and 6-County English Colony is in the Uk and the Good Friday Agreement was reached with the condition of "An Open Border" that will not work without an agreement. Which is not likely.
@@johndoe-ss9bz get a life like
@@johndoe-ss9bz Catholicism has not been good for Ulster and we don't want a part of it
@@johndoe-ss9bz ya can't have land back filled with folks that are no longer what they where ..move on Irish people
@@johndoe-ss9bz nobody here voted ‘85% United ireland’. Stop crying pity to Americans and others with your BS.
Yeah, we want a United ireland. United under the Uk again 😎😍
In America we are called scotch Irish and are predominately from Appalachia we were the ones that gave the most blood for the revolution against the redcoates more than the Dutch or Germans proud to be of scotch Irish blood.
I have multiple ancestors traced to the American Revolution. Majority were Scot-Irish.
I guess they got tired of being under the British thumb.
They also birthed inbred hillbillies which is no surprise.
@@mcivor321 because they were protestants both and Ireland was Catholic
I respectfully disagree with the statement that they predominantly settled in Appalachia. Many of my ancestors (Scots-Irish) settled in Pennsylvania, Ohio. Later they migrated further west.
@@mkirwin23 when they first came over 1700s Pennsylvania is part of that reagin and they move further west as years progressed. there was no ohio intille 1803
The people of Northern Ireland and the West of Scotland have been sharing culture and people for thousands of years.
@Fíonán Murphy Plenty of people moved from Scotland into Northern Ireland also. My own paternal line originates in Northern Ireland, then moved to the Highlands, and then back to County Antrim.
I love Ireland.
@Leo Proctor your ma.
I Love the Free Republic of Ireland. Ireland one day will be Free from the Center to the Sea.
I'm an Armstrong here in Arkansas, USA. I'm sure my ancestors came to Ulster before coming to America. King James couldn't get all of us.
Dutch King William of Orange, had to do the fighting for the English. History tells us he had sexual orientation issue.
The Armstrongs ancestral home is Langholm Dumfriesshire Scotland
Excellent documentary on an often overlooked people. Only a pity there aren't more like this.
they should make a similar style of documentary on Leinster
Munster also
The tragedy of history is that sometimes it teaches you who are supposed to hate.... the lesson is don't learn that lesson....
I recall another BBC documentary, about the Great War, that specialized on the Canadian clan regiments. Strength in kinfolk.
BBC wouldn't take notice of them
The red hand comes from my family in County Tyrone - and it grew from there. I'm sure for the first guy - it was painful.
And now it belongs to a bunch of Monarch Capitalist bootlickers.
@@JackHernandezGentlemanJack fair enough. doesn't belong to me, that's for sure.
Why are you lying? The red hand comes from China.
@@mr.afrikaans1747different Red Hand
@@markothwriter guess we're related then! 😁👋
History is the collection of the inconveniences that remind us that all our crafted identities are not just oversimplifications, but wrong. This was a very eloquent documentary.
I wish I could be a part of a cultural community of Scots Irish where I'm at that have true reverence for Bible and heritage. I bought me a copy of the Geneva bible. People are so ignorant of the holy scripture to day it's very sad. It's very glorifying to me that as I read the Bible alone with no one to help me , over the years I discovered that my understanding of the holy bible is clearly reformed and calvanist.
The Bible is nonsense as is religious scripture in general. I'm sorry for your troubles but Christianity is a myth and there is no God as is depicted in the Bible or any other holy book.
Someone should do a documentary about Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal or pre 1600s Ulster, because Ulster Scots history is only the tip of the iceberg.
I wonder how historians know that the Ul Neil's are the oldest lineage in Europe? That surprised me. I thought they weren't stone age settled in Ireland. Fascinating show
The UI Neil’s were Gaelic not Ulster Scots they ran the UI Neil’s now the O Neil’s off the land of ulster and have no right to claim them as northerners
@@ciarandempsey2184 ?
@@johndoe-ss9bz the account is an Ulster Scots account claiming that th Ui Neil’s were Ulster Scots
@@ciarandempsey2184 Nonsense.
Most of these so called planters were from Galloway,which is only 16 miles from Ulster.
Galloway was Gaelic speaking from the 6th century.
If the planters were Gaelic speakers why do the descendants of these planters not speak gealic why do they despise gealic culture and march and swear loyalty to people and institutions who enshrined in law the destruction of gealic culture. Not to mention to say so called planters and to claim that Ulster Scots are native is to go against the well documented historical facts of the ulster plantations and the flight of the earls. @@MV12379
Great documentary about "our wee country"
It is not a country though... It is a Provence
@@chiefgilray :: 2/3rds of 9-county Ulster (6-counties) are an English Colony. 1/3rd (3-counties) are in the FREE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND.
@@johndoe-ss9bz a slave of Rome is not freedom friend. Catch yourself on.
@@johndoe-ss9bz, occupied territory!
@@edcarson3113 : The Archbishop of Canterbury would not tolerate that kind of attitude.
Why does no one talk about the sadly (yet massive contribution brought about) failed Welsh plantation on Rockall? Would Ulster be the same without it? I doubt it!
Do Battle of the Boyne documentary next please.
Having been born into a Catholic family in Derry, I see myself as Irish but to some extent British too. My British identity comes from the culture of BBC television, BBC Radio 4 and the British education system. My family served in the British Army in the interwar years and during WWII. We were always aware of the need to be as respectable as our Protestant neighbours. Emigrating to Canada, everybody here thought I was Scottish. Thank God I’m now a Canadian Citizen! At last I have a stable national identity!
I wonder how many people from Northern Ireland went to Canada? It would be interesting to see what the DNA make up in Canada is as I imagine quite a lot of people have British or Irish ancestry.
Jay Roberts I think there is quite a strong Irish and Northern Irish origin population in Canada. There are many Irish names, family names and place names. I think that true of the Scottish too. At one point in time the Orange order was stronger in Canada than in the UK. That alone attests to the Northern Ireland Protestant presence, reinforced by the Scottish. Ontario, New Brunswick and here in Quebec had large numbers of “Les Orangeistes”, anti-Catholic and ant-French. There’s published work by an Irish historian called WJ Smyth on this. Small isolated communities still exist of Scottish, Northern Irish and English settlers families, one being in Les Iles de la Madeleine, a little string of islands in the Gulf of St Lawrence, Quebec, where the live alongside their French neighbours, outnumbered 20/1 but retain English as their first. Language and the Anglican Faith despite being such an isolated and small community. Worth looking up again, names like Bell, McClean, Cummins, Dickson, McPhail, Keating, Clarke, one of the progenitors being Douglas Bell from Belfast, baptized at St Patrick’s on the Donegal Road. In Quebec City on the other hand, probably due to intermarriage with French Catholics the Irish families are nearly all Francophone at this stage. As for me I’ve only been here 13 years and I’ve kept my DNA out of the reproductive cycle! Cheers.
@@huub1989
Well that is a lot of interesting information, and I'll do a bit more research into some of that. Another part in the series from the Imaging Ulster series deals with immigrants to places such as Canada so I'll watch that to see if I can fill in a few blanks.
I found a reference to people from NI who have gone overseas in a speech by Edward Carson when he was protesting about Home Rule. He said, "Out through the whole Empire-Canada, Australia, New Zealand-Ulstermen are strong and powerful. Toronto is an Ulster city. Do not do something which, throughout the length and breadth of our Empire, will turn Ulster against the British connection. God forbid! And do remember that when, through your laws, Ulstermen were driven out of Ireland and went to America, it was thirty-six Ulstermen, smarting under a grievance, who signed the Declaration of Independence." I can't find any information that backs up 36 Ulstermen but I will keep on looking.
You mentioned Orange lodges in your post, and I was reading a book about an ambassador to Ghana; it appears the Orange lodges spread there as well!! Apparently Scots Presbyterians went to Ghana and took with them some of their cultural rites, including the Orange lodges. They have over 30 lodges there, and dress up in the full regalia of sash, bowler hat and umbrellas to parade to pipes and drums. The umbrella is a traditional symbol of chieftaincy in Ghana which is why they warmed to it in particular. Here's the stunning bit: every year they send a delegation of Ghanaian Orangemen to the Orange parade in Belfast on 12th July. The mind boggles.
There are also Orangemen in Togo who were inspired by the Ghanaian Orangemen, but mainly because they liked dressing up and parading around. However, they did not fully embrace the whole Orange movement.The ambassador recounts them getting a little bit confused on some points, not least that their parade was headed up by choirboys in white surplices carrying a statue of the Virgin Mary, because the 'Orangemen' in Togo were Catholics!
Anyway, I hope you have been able to access some essentials from NI, including Tayto crisps, potato bread etc. to remind you of your history. All the best in Canada. I have never been but I have been told it is very beautiful.
Jay Roberts that is so funny thinking of the Togolese Orangemen carrying a statue of Mary in the parade dressed in soutanes and surplice! It tickles me particularly as I’m a Catholic priest myself!
@@huub1989
You could start your own Orang(ish) order!!!!
More importantly, have you managed to track down Tayto crisps in Canada?
Its Gaelic. Look at the place names.
Very much enjoyed, O hEochaidh Hoy, dal Fiatach dynasty, Clanna Dedad, Hoy Island Orkney, HAEY Norse, we have all come along way and still many more times to go, all the very best health and happiness.
My Irish American Grandmother came from Gaelic Ulster roots - surname McNulty, i.e. 'Son of an Ulsterman'.
That side of the family might have originally been the Dunleavy clan, who were exiled to Mayo in the 1600's and renamed themselves McNulty, to remind themselves of their Ulster roots.
You’re probably related to me also
Ulster - one of the 4 historic Provinces of Ireland
At the tender age of 67 I've grown curious about our family name of "Manning" and learned that my great grandfather, born in Philadelphia, was listed in the 1920 census as born here of parents from "Ireland". He was Presbyterian so I am wondering if the "Ireland" his parents emigrated from in the mid 1800s was actually what became Northern Ireland. I do remember my father long ago mentioning the term "Scots Irish" and joking that his forbearers left Scotland for Ireland (before coming to The States) due to unpaid taxes.... Now I wonder at the veracity of this joke ("the truth is often said in jest"). I've begun researching. Thank God for the Internet. So much to learn about the history of Scotland and Ireland and The Troubles and all else related to that neck of the woods.
After the "Flight of the Earls" the Irish Armies of O'Neill and "O'Donnell the King wanted to clear Gaelic Northern Ireland of Irish Catholics, gave the land to Lindon-Guilds with orders to populate it with Lowland Scot Presbyterians and North English Anglicans as Tenant Farmers. The Irish Landowners were given the order to leave (TO HELL or CONNAUGHT) in time the Scot Presbyterian Tenant Farmers were overtaxed and subjected to the Penal-Laws for Catholics and became 2nd Class Prods to Anglican Ascendency. Those with a Rebel-Nature left for America. the Cowardly Loyalists stayed behind and today live off English Dole (welfare).
@@johndoe-ss9bz actually it’s the catholics in Derry today that live off the English dole 🤣🤣
To hell or to Connaught,a barren land of rocks and mountains was Oliver Cromwells’ offer to Catholic Irish.
Cromwell a murdering bigot whose New model army butchered and raped there way through Ireland,now stands proudly outside the houses of Parliament in London.Thanks England.Seriously I have nothing against ordinary English people.
@@johndoe-ss9bz Most welfare scroungers in Ulster are Roman Catholic.
Brilliant wee Clip ULSTER No Surrender
Hi Arnold. I’m not trying to be political here, but what do you mean these days by “No Surrender”. To what ?
how is that border in the irish sea doing LMFAO
@@edwardbell3745 its going well ULSTER NOT FOR SALE keep buying ur boats for that horrible long journey to the EU france etc stay out of Northern Ireland the likes of roi not wanted
@@arnoldshannon7222 oh dear what a self deluding man, named after the longest river in Ireland and flys the butchers apron lol talk about confused... mate the DUP sold you down the rover for the few months of power they had to to be allowed to get was with teh cash for ash scheme , answer me this, is there an internal trade barrier between the united kingdom and ireland yes is there a trade barrier between the six counties and the twenty se=ix, NO , did the DUP say months ago it was a good deal YES and the most northern part of Ireland is donegal so are you asking me to stay out of donegal , when Max hastings is writing articles that there should be a united ireland but england must hold onto scotland well even you should see the writing IS ALL OVER THE WALL get with it man there will be a UI very very soon make the most of it we will welcome you in to a liberal pluralistic modern prosperous nation not the drugged up shite holes that larne the shankill etc are ...................... we will educate your kids we already are as ireland is paying for your kids to do the Erasmus scheme is they have the brains pissing myself laughing here at your so silly comment your farmers and fishermen are only still in business because of Ireland dear oh dear sold down the river by the conservatives who would have though lol ...................................................... ps ULSTER is 9 counties and a historic Irish province not a sectarian statelet that even the brits are tired off.... enjoy your night trying to work out what Ulster scots is FFS
@Fíonán Murphy who chat some rubbish and ballshite
Since I ever started learning about Ireland in an integrated school called Hillcroft in Mossley in North Belfast but because we were Protestant and Catholic pupils we didn't ever learn about the Troubles because pupils in our school Protestant and Catholic. One side calls themselves Irish and one side called themselves British and Ulster Scots which is good.
It's great tae hear a wee story o' oor hame lan' Ulstèr. Fair faa ye.
@@sarahjaynemullan358 Sarah Mullan, your name Mullan is Irish. It means bald one. Bout yee. Slan.
Why do the descendants of the first English Plantation of Leinster (The Pale) not call themselves "LEINSTER ENGLISH"? they did become more Irish than the Irish Themselves!
I know Irish from Munster, and they never call themselves "Munster Irish".I know Irish from the Free 3-western counties of Ulster, but do not call themselves "Ulster Irish" what is all this Scots Irish stuff, will Scotland not allow them back, if they are unable to adjust to living in North East Ireland.
I know Fitzgerald from Ireland and they do not call themselves Norman/Irish.
The fella who chopped his hand off was apart of my family 😂 we grew up as children with this story. Really interesting documentary ☺️
Sammy Neil,the person who chopped his hand off was from the O'Neill clan.As far as I'm aware your name comes from Barra in Scotland.Of course the Scoti were from Ireland originally so,you could have a point.
@@brianbreen1026 yep thats the line we come from the O'Neill's! 🤗
@@brianbreen1026 The Highland of Scotland was settled by Irish Family Nobles, like the O'Neil's and O'Donnell's . who changed the O' to Mac Donnell and Mac Neil etc.
Would love to see the second part if anyone has it.
+james elliott The other 2 episodes are on my Veoh channel... www.veoh.com/m/watch.php?v=v85493945WR35ZX39
The plantation of Ulster by outsiders is an historical fact.
ua-cam.com/video/QcfpINuX01s/v-deo.htmlsi=GQc-dlGETM5sAaCj
@@kieransavage3835 "The Plantation of Munster by English was a hundred years before the Plantation of Ulster, by lowland Scots, but the English in the Plantation of Munster, assimilated adopted Gaelic Culture and became more Irish than the Irish themselves.
Do you have parts 2 and 3 of this documentary series, or know of where it might be viewed?
My family came to America from Donegal during the Great Hunger, when Irish Catholics were almost starvation-genocided by Charles Trevalyan and the British government. I'm sure this guy will talk about this a lot, especially the part about the genocidal policies of the British government.
Go do some proper research on the subject.......just one point what is almost "starvation-genocided" ....Ireland had a population of between 8-11 million prior to the Blight.....about 1 to 1.5 million died and a similar number emigrated...not all to N America most to England who you are claiming to be committing genocide on those same people!! (That's like the Nazis killing the Jews in Austria but allowing Austrian Jews to emigrate to Germany to work and live there).
Famine was commonplace in Europe those times and poor people suffered most.....not well off Irish people in Ireland's case who could afford alternative starch. Class and affluence where much more of a driver when it came to mortality during times of food stress. Sure there where people like Trevalyn and sectors of the English establishment who where disinterested in the plight of the poor Irish....but they where equally disinterested in the plight of Scottish , English and Welsh poor people.
Speaking of the Welsh your surname points in that direction🤔
@@simonshiels1
Wilful neglect on the part of English establishment regards the poor of Ireland.
Ireland was the only country that suffered famine in Europe where its population reduced by 50% from 8 million to 4 million. Food was exported out of Ireland by the landowners.
“[The Famine] is a punishment from God for an idle, ungrateful, and rebellious country; an indolent and un-self-reliant people. The Irish are suffering from an affliction of God’s providence." - Charles Trevelyan
"The judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson, that calamity must not be too much mitigated. …The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people." - Charles Trevelyan
Racist and sectarian views of the Irish were common amongst the English ruling class. They were not just 'disinterested'.
Spot on! So much actual history has been manipulated through out the centuries. God knows and he will make it known.
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@@simonshiels1 Now who needs to do some research - I don't know your background, whether you're Irish, Ulster Scot, Scot or a Sasanach, but you are woefully ill informed about the causes and the effects of An Gorta Mór, on the population of Ireland, then and now.
We are a country like no other.... A divided country by politics and religion.... And yet, we all share the pain of the war!!.... Imagine how powerful Ulster would be on its own, not Irish, not British, but Ulster!!... A small country moulded by fighters, by conviction!...
You have the same genes as someone in Kentucky, both Carolinas, Tennessee, Alabama, Ulster descendants populate Appalachia almost exclusively! When I researched my family name, I see the same other surnames in surrounding families echoing.
I think that this is the way forward tbh
As usual confusing NI (6 Counties) with "Ulster" (9 Counties) and certainly the former as an independent entity would IMO not be viable economically. No UK subsidy and not being in the EU..
There are 4 provinces in Ireland. (1) Munster, South. (2) Ulster. North. (3) Leinster, East. (4) Conaught. West.
A good, summarised story well told.
I’m wondering about the O’Neills. What became of them? Did The O’Neill just give his red hand to the English king? I wonder if they weren’t vanquished and exiled from their lands in 1603? I seem to remember hearing of the Flight of the Wild Geese. Well, must be me because it’s not mentioned here by the BBC.
The o'neills have fuck all to the English crown but a pike or a sword
Well the main branches fled during the filght of the earls 1607 to secure alliance's with other catholic countries e.g France and Spain, Hugh himself died in Italy on July 20th,1616 the family obviously still exists in Ireland but the main branches now reside in iberia and austria. The filght of the wild geese is when young irishmen joined foreign reigements in mainland Europe there had already been Irish men in foreign regiments in mainland Europe decades before the filght of the earls.
No Surrender - Ulster for ever!
huns already surrendered
Ireland for the Irish
Declan M Do you mean ethnically Irish or what do you mean?
But you did surrender...
@justin leckey put your hands up and said please dont shoot . LOL
Ebb and flow... When an ebb brings famine, land theft, killing and the imposition of an alien culture at its vanguard, you gotta question the repricocity of such a relationship.
How can there not be any mention not the famine?
Londonderry mate
Stroke City.
Tiocfadh ar la
@@raleighburner1589 No surrender. :)
@@immortaltyrant2474 it's only a matter of time surely you can comprehend that
@@raleighburner1589 Right. I'd say it's a bit of a long term thing but okay.
44:40 There's a Forgotten Weapons video on that!
lamh dhearg erin abu !!
Hugh O'Neill well said
Great Documentary, is there a part 2?
33:49 Tilt-shift lens?
Why isn't there a push for the reunification of Ulster? And then a border poll within 1 year
Think we all know the answer, 9 counties! minority springs to mind.
Yeah I agree. We need it to all be part of the UK 😎
Grey squirrels aren't native to Ireland or Ulster but cause huge problems for the indigenous red population.
I’m a hybred……80% Brit. With a Scottish side half from Ulster and half from Aberdeen. The Aberdeen side descends from the Gordon’s of Gight.
I'm from donegal republic off ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪
The Land of O'Donnell "Tir Connell"
the story of the British Isles is very complex, makes me dizzy ;)
My dna test was able to trace my lineage to ulster Ireland now in a rabbit hole to learn
A lot of the Scots Irish ended up in the Appalachians - where their descendants still live in cabins and have kids with their sister and cook meth - then they name all their kids "William" - but the kid goes by Billy. The hills are full of Scots Irish Billies.
This is Ulste. .we don't want to be Irish so. Piss off
Wanker
Hence the term Hill Billies,although in Belfast the terminology “All the Wee Sammy’s is used.
@@stanmason2993 Shut up ye gammon
They are not Irish. There are the descendants of Scottish planters in Ulster who then moved to the USA. They did though bring Irish music and culture to the US, having none of their own.
Migration or Invasion. Depends how you interpret these words I suppose. However when one group is forceably removed from their land to make way for another I know how I view it.
Apparently your king was a gambler and bet his kingdom on a horse race?
People should look up Dal Riata, Ulaid, and the Gwyddel-Ffichti/Cruithne before coming to conclusions about Ulster.
Storrsson Productions Yes very true I've been reading Ian Adamsons books and it led me to watch this stuff on UA-cam it's all very interesting
@@richiec9077 So many actual historians book you can read and you choose that loyalist charlatan. His "theories" are basically the Ulster equivalent to Zionism.
@@Stevenbfg so you say , have you actually read any of his work? He is far from the "loyalist charlatan" you claim he is, infact he goes on to explain why people say that and how he is not
@@richiec9077 Yes I have. One particularly hilarious claim he makes is Dál Riata being non-Gaelic when they are as Gaelic as they come. They were literally how the Gaelic language was brought to Scotland. Basically he makes a failed attempt to connect to Gaels who went to Scotland to the lowland Scot planters who colonized Ulster. He tries to use this as justification for the plantations saying they were "coming home" when the two groups couldn't be any less related. He particularly has an obsession with the cruthin and archaeologists have refuted almost every claim he made about them.
@@Stevenbfg well my good friend Dr Raoul McLaughlin says otherwise and I'd rather believe his good educated self than your zealous pretentious views anyday , thank you very much
With out our brave ancestors & this history we would not be in America!
At the start of your documentary IT WAS 2 OF A CHIEFTAIN SONS THAT CUT HIS HAND OFF DURING THE BOAT RACE , MY CLAN IS LAMONT , THE ONLY SCOTTISH CLAN THAT BARES THE RED HAND OF ULSTER IN CLAN CREST
Think we need to start referring to NI as ulster. This place should have been called ulster.
David G: How can you "start referring to NI as Ulster" when it has been called that by the Unionist since its creation in 1921 (did you not notice that in the video?). In fact, due to its inaccuracy, the use of Ulster for part of UK has fallen out of use. It also shows the idiotic original intention of the Unionists at the time to include all Ulster in NI.
@@philipbrennan4214 I do think he meant using Ulster as a positive shift versus the differentiating NI naming. I agree. Stop saying NI and say Ulster exclusively, that would help encompass all people within. That gives everyone a common culture therein. It's just a positive wish :)
@@philipbrennan4214 I see Ulster as my ancestral home and am fascinated with it and long to see it. It is a melting pot of the people of the British Isles just as it is here in Appalachia. I'm 45% Scots and another 10% Irish and both of which I'm very proud of.
Ahem! You might all want to check with the folk in Monaghan, Cavan and Donegal first! They mightn't be too happy about getting kicked out of Ulster seeing as they were there from at least the Iron Age?
They try to push that Ulster was always destinctly different from Ireland and the Irish... well it wasnt ... your "identity" come from the plantations and thats it.
That's now 1/2 a millennium of time you're talking about there, plenty of time for a new people to develop. Get used to it, they're not going anywhere.
kcirdrab Go home foreigner.
Paddy Mac Obviously an uneducated and bigoted comment. You seem to know nothing of Irish pre-history, the uniqueness and independence of ancient Ulster from the rest of the island.
The island of Ireland contains TWO nations. The shared culture and history of the Scots-Irish in Ulster is in fact different than that of the rest of the island.
They had to bring the Scottish in because the English settlers kept intermarrying the Irish. The scots just married each other.
So did the scots irish retain their identity of scottish culture
No mention of their dispossession of the native Irish natives surprise surprise.
Which ones the protestants or the catholic or the Ulster people before Christianity ?
Ulstermanone If I knew that I'd be worth a fortune if you know you should tell somebody there could be a substantial cash bonus for ye. When you obtain something its always best to do it legitimately cos when you don't there will always be doubt and conflict attached to it there will always be disputes as to who owns it
Michael Ahern no mention of ireland invading britain first eh ???
The MoFF Ireland invading Britain yeah right like the Irish could have done that that was just a series of costal raids.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A1l_Riata
Ireland invaded Britain.
Interesting fresh and fair documentary.
Ulster has 9 counties not 6 as the relatively new northern Ireland why perpetuate this lie
We all have the right to live on this island In peace and no one has the right to deny the people that right. But there are those who feel this land belongs exclusively to them and that the British people have no right to be here and this includes the Ulster Scots. Some people would for political reasons say the Ulster Scots people were planted in Ireland by the English in the 1600s. While others would deny their Existence altogether.
In 6,000 BC Ireland was covered in dense forests of Pine and Hazel, Oak and Elm .About this time the first people crossed over from Scandinavia to Britain and made their way across the narrow sea ( 11 Miles ) from Scotland to Ulster. Because of the thick forests these people traveled along the river’s and lakes and along the Sea-coasts. They made their way up the river Bann to Lough Neagh and spread slowly Southwards. They were Hunters and Fishermen and lived besides lakes and rivers. According to scholars they were tall, broad shouldered and large chested.
Their forehead was broad and high, their hair was Brown, Fair, often Red and their eyes light mixed Blue. Their skin was typically inclined to freckling and very fair.
(Celts & Normans by Gearoid MacGearaitt. Ma ( Gill & McMillan press).1969
600 BC the Celts come to Ireland
Historians are not sure when the Celts came to Ireland and Britain. It is probable that the first important group of Celts came to Ireland from the lands about the Rhine, up the North sea and across Britain to Ireland we believe they came about 600 BC.
(Celts & Norman’s by Gearoid MacGearaitt. Ma ( Gill & McMillan press).1969.)
We can see that Ireland was inhabited from around 6,000BC ( The Cruthin) and that the Celts did not arrive until 600 BC ( 5,400 years later ) The Cruthin the original inhabitants became outnumbered and swamped with the arrival of the Celts, They lost most of their language and were subdued by the Celts, but they still held a presence in Ulster.
The Gaelic invasion of Ulster
The Uí Néill clan of the Celts invaded Ulster.
The capital of Ulster, Emain Macha (can be seen today as Navan Fort) seems to have fallen to the Uí Néill (O’Neill) or been abandoned by the Ulstermen around 450 AD within Ulster there was a system of tribal alliances, The dominant political grouping were the Ulaid ( from whom Ulster was to get its name ) they were probably a warrior caste of the ( La Tent ) Celts wielding a lordship over indigenous tribes, among those indigenous tribes were the Cruthin the most populous and important of these Pre Celtic peoples who shared in the over-kingship of Ulster.
The Cruthin more often than not bore the brunt of the wars against the Uí Néill Celts and at times claimed that they were the ( Fir Ulaid, ) The true Ulstermen. In the far west of Ulster the Uí Néill conquest was the most complete and the Ulster leaders were driven East, in this reduced Kingdom of Ulster they ( The Cruthin ) attempted to stabilize their power with the erection of “Danes Cast” Earthworks as a visible reminder to their adversaries that they were in no respect a spent force.
The Cruthin confronted the Uí Néill Celts in 563AD at the battle of Móin Dairi Lothair (Money More) however seven Kings of the Cruthin were killed. The way was now left open for the Uí Néill Celts to expand further into Ulster to what is today county Londonderry.
Two years later the Cruthin over-King of Ulster, Aed Dub Mac Suibni slew the Northern Uí Néill King, a battle is also recorded at Coleraine in 579AD. However it was to be the great battle of Moira that the Ulstermen were to make their most determined effort to call a halt to the Uí Néill expansion. Congal Cláen was possibly the greatest of all Cruthin Kings became over-King of Ulster in 627. By 637 Congal had managed to gather around him a Powerful army which included not only Ulstermen but according to Colgan contingents of Pict,s (Scotland) Anglo Saxons (English) and Britons (Welsh). The battle as depicted in later Bardic romances seem to have been a ferocious affair and as well at the land confrontation it included a naval engagement.
Sounds like you discribing the history of the Ulster Scots to me fella
Some if this history is now disproven by recent DNA and archeologic studies.
@@melindalemmon2149 And from linguistic perspective makes no sense, Cruthin were invaders not gaels, lol
absolute garbage but you keep believing it and taking the pills
:: "Gob-Shite"! "Right is Right" and "Wrong is Wrong". IRELAND for the IRISH. - SCOTLAND for the SCOTS. WALES for the WELSH and ENGLAND for the ENGLISH. Those that do not like that, can go to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand where Sectarianism is long gone.
The ancient inhabitants of Ulster were named Cruthin (the Picts). So, as long as they’re has been an Ulster, it’s people have been British. And viewed that way by people in the south of Ireland.
What's with the they're Ray
Bull
As many northern English went to ulster as Scottish, funny how they don't have a ulster _English identity?
As Ulaidh me agus as contae An Dún me🇮🇪🍀
My ancestors Mc Curdy s left to Northern Ireland then on to East Coast then when the South opened they made it to Ga, SC, to settled the Pan Handle of Fla, USA.the Mc Curdys, I'm sure of this history I've done my DNA.
Back in Gaelic times Ulster could fight all the other Irish kingdoms combined and the Picts right after Erin go bragh
The Land was illegally taken away by England and a large number of Irish Catholics forced to leave and driven away with absolute violence.
Even if some people promote a different story, it does not become the truth.
NI shall be given back to mother Ireland, without any terror or violence, and shall keep a certain status of autonomy within Eire.
William is a great journalist.
The great American writer Malcom Gladwell, explains the blood feud between the Hatfields and the McCoys (famous inter generational conflict claiming many lives) as the behavioural patterns laid down over centuries by the “Border Peoples” of Ireland, Scotland and Northern England. He posits that herdsman (as opposed to farmers) had to project maximum violence to protect their herds to prevent stealing and loss of face. This “honour” culture is deeply, subconsciously ingrained and he describes a simple experiment to expose the physiological tendencies still present, though the cultural,societal circumstances that produced this culture are long since gone. Our oldest legends in Ireland are off Cúchullainn, single handedly fending off the combined armies of Ireland during the “Táin”, an elaborate magical cattle raid. We just don’t have a chance do we?
In the 1st to 5th century the Romans called what is today Ulster it was originally called Scotia ie Scotland and the people called the Scotti ie Scots not Irish but a Celtic tribe that went to Caledonia ie Scotland 🏴
What a load of made up historical nonsense. Ireland was never called Scotia. Ulster was and is Irish.
Were Irish 🇮🇪🍀
Throwing his hand ashore isn't that cheating ? And just a crazy thing to do???? What?
Wish we could truly take Ulster from the Irish
We’ve got a fair wee slice
I wish we could deport the "ulster-scots" back to Scotland.
Ulster is Irish. It's in Ireland
Like genocide ? Exile all the Catholics ? What exactly do you want
2 minutes in and claiming leadership of/for Oneil...No
Im a decendant from a planter in the 1600s have i less ownership to this country than an Irishman?
No.
As in planting potatoes ?
what would your answer be and why?
@@dpg957 to what
@caolan feely slap urself
Sporer Corner
Ulster Scots strathclyde clan rule the World
Hello long ago Cousins on Isle of Bute
The red hand is Irish ... not British!
Exactly.
@Straight White British Protestant well actually the English language is french, German, and a whole lot more, it is a bastardisation of languages
@caolan feely Well it's all good now anyway. Speaking English is very useful seeing most of the wealthy nations in the world speak it or have some understanding of it. Good for the country in the long run.
@@immortaltyrant2474 nope many of us are learning our language again, lose your language you lose your soul
Ulster has always had a connection to Scotland long before Catholicism even came to Ireland and in that the north has always had a difference from the south so stop with the bigotry.
RandomnessTube yeah and leister had a connection to the vikings
Bullshit
Hello long ago Cousins in Scotland
Since I started studying Ireland in September 2017 I always wanted to learn the Irish language and Gaels of Ireland and Scotland but i wanted to learn about Ulster Scots but not to speak Ulster Scots.
Leinster English (The Pale) became "More Irish than the Irish Themselves" and are Loyal to the Constitutional Republic of Ireland.
As we say in ulster Scots "it's a handy enough language to learn so it is"
Nobody speaks either language anymore to be honest. Only a political cry
@Savannah Loughlin some would say Ulsterscots is a dialect of English.
God, what a mawkish production.
Ulster is a predominately Irish and Catholic, always was. Presbyterians, Anglicans and Methodists were always minority faiths in Ulster.
The time period they are talking about Irish Catholics were prevented from gaining an education, participation in government, owning property.
go back to the 1600's when Catholics were being killed by the English. they also sent the Catholics to the Bahamas as slaves, funded by the jews. protestants were given the land stolen from the Catholics. the Catholics pushed the protestants back as far as the northeast , and that's where they are today.
Really ? How the fuck was Ulster catholic for 1200 yrs before Christ was even born and 1500 before the Catholic church ?---Unreal how fucking stupid people are
bluechip: YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP AND ARE TOO BIASED TO GIVE COMMENTARY!
Ulster to this day is predominantly Irish in terms of national identity. N.Ireland is more evenly split, but N.Ireland is only 2/3rds of Ulster.
N.Ireland was gerrymandered out of Ulster as part of the Irish-Anglo treaty to create a slight unionist majority.
The colonial settlers definitely influenced Ulster, but there were other colonial plantations throughout Ireland too.
All those places are still Irish, so why should ulster be any different? Ulster is Irish.
Ulstermanone Ireland became a Christian country around the same time the Romans conquered Britannia. But it was not a Catholic country it has its own church the Gaelic church, it wasn't until the Norman conquest of England and Ireland that Ireland became a Catholic country thanks to an English pope who was actually French but we won't go into that. Everything was rosy until some 400 years later the English decided to remove themselves from the Catholic Church while keeping all of the traditions and create the Anglican church. The mountain people... those knuckledraggin fools in the north of Britannia became calvinists. .. fire and brimstone people's who assumed God was watching at all times and in order to please God the needed to repent and work and pray and live and austere life and Vanquis the Catholics. The natives have always been here and they know it's there land the presbyterians have to keep reminding themselves that they are a product of the plantation and they know that this is not their land that's why they continuously put out this type of crap because they're insecure and a grip is loosening.
Why tf is he up a mountain in a suit ?? Lol.
city folk.......
Ulster has always been British, migration back and forward has been going on for thousands of years.
The so called Gaels were not a homogeneous people, the Scotti were were a distinct ethnic group who lived in the territory of the Uliad .
The Uliad in turn were cognate with a P Celtic tribe known as the Uliti whose territory was in N.Britain .
The oldest known map of Ireland shows clearly that Ireland was inhabited by P Celtic tribes from Britain such as the Brigantes.
None of the place names on the map are Gaelic in origin ,the Name Ireland is not of Gaelic origin nor is Ulster.
The Gaelic Language probably arrived in Ireland around the same time as Saxon English arrived in mainland Britain.
The name Gael is a British word meaning raider and was used by the Britons to describe anyone from Ireland.
Describing someone as a Gael doesn't necessarily denote a common origin any more than people in Britain who speak English are necessarily English , example being most Irish people speak English as their first Language but Irish people are not English.
Always been British? And what is British (Saxon, Celt, Norse, Pict, Roman etc) and when did it become Britain ? How can you make a statement on what was happening for 1000s of years just to add legitimacy to the failed plantation of Ulster that had to be saved by shipping over a load of Scottish settlers !
History is mostly educated guesswork but what is absolute is that the native Irish in Ulster (whatever they were) were displaced by Scottish planters in the 17th century.
Now if you want to stick to fairytales then read the book of Invasions and see if you can find the British in there.
FYI - Irishness to me is more a state of mind and an attitude than a genetic or biological marker and all are welcome.
Finally someone who knows history, You’re right. Ireland is named after a Brythonic tribe the “iverni” . The Geal invasion and colonisation of Ivernia/ireland first time was lead by Mil Espaine, the soldier from Spain and his followers the Milesians then many other invasions happened after between the 6th and 12th centuries. Even today many irish republicans actually have a mentality that they are geals and it’s their land because they’re natives, they’re wrong. This is beyond doubt, and attested to by so many authentic sources that politically-motivated “revisionists” cannot get around that fact.
@@liamb5546 Eire is the Gaelic word for Ireland
@@michaelsmith3685 The term British refers to inhabitants of the British isles that includes Ireland.
'failed plantation' you are cherry picking history.
Movement between Scotland and Ulster had been happening for thousands of years.
Country Antrim had always been the territory of the Macdonnells they were kin to the Scottish MacDonalds
The Macdonnells had been importing Scots for centuries before the so called plantation.
The biggest migration of Scots into Ulster occurred in the 1690s and had nothing to do with the King James 1V plantation
@@cherri2469 my apologies. it was meant for liam b but i notice his comment was 2 years ago so will delete this reply.
Mc Curdy & Sturt hete
The star represents the Rothschilds ownership
Your History is mixed up and late to Ireland.
The red hand has absolutely nothing to do with Ireland...
That red hand is a foreigner and a colonizer who trying to rewrite History..
Sha
Partition. Gerrymandering......etc...
One Man One Vote = FREEDOM!
It's trite to term Ulster-Scots as only existing as Protestant migration from Scotland to Ulster.
Ulster-Scots originally founded Scotland from Ulster in AD 500's.
Ulster-Scots migrated from Scotland to Ulster as Catholics for centuries prior to the Reformation.
You are very very right
You are using facts. Irish Catholics perpetuate a culture of genocide against the Protestant minority of Northern Ireland after chasing many Protestants from the ROI to the north. Scotland is even named after the Irish who founded Scotland who went back in the plantations.
Hamish M Away with your bigoted shite you peddler of revisionist rubbish, Catholics killed protestants and Protestants killed Catholics , that's just how it was. Is your self esteem so low that you feel the need to write a fake history to make yourself feel better.
The trouble with Scotland is it's full of Picts and not the Gaels from whom you claim to descend. Any real Scot will tell you this. Its hilarious to me that once Protestants would take up arms if you called them Irish and yet now it's come full circle and some are claiming they are actually more Irish than the Gaels themselves. Next you'll be calling yourself the O Neil or the O Cahan, the Maguire, the Mac Mahuntha, the O Donnell or the MacLoughlin or some other princely ancient Gaelic title of the Ulster Irish Nobility to remove all evidence of your real identity, which is that your poverty stricken family arrived here penniless, landless wretches to farm land once owned by Irish Gaels and parceled out to you by the hands of Englishmen.
I hate no proud NI Protestant nor loyalist nor Englishman Scot or Welshman, but I detest a liar.
Dont be a Chichester, Terence O Neil former N.I. PM , wasn't an O Neil at all, his family were Chichesters and stole the O Neil name in order to inherit O Neil territory and no doubt to falsify their own pedigree. To take a man's land is one thing but to use his own name to do it, that really I's disgusting.
Have some pride in your own story no need to give yourself a fake pedigree.
You're mixing up highland Scots and lowland Scots there buddy. The Irish that founded Scotland were Gaels. The Scots that came to Ireland during the plantations were Anglo-Saxon lowlanders.
@@JM-gu3tx "perpetuate a culture of genocide against the protestant minority in Northern Ireland" 😆 So much wrong with that statement it makes you question if our species should have left the safety of the trees in Africa to begin with.
this is about a subsection of a subsection of the people on the island of ireland , obviously one that has had a strong effect but your focus on a partial picture and the proven fallacies of this origin story is like the made up cruithin orgin story makes this little more than a equivalent of the nazi lies about the aryan race this is just " UDA history porn" but none the less interesting to see you twist and turn in all directions to in some way justify and celebrate the presence of the presbyterian people in the north east of ireland / lets start the conversation again by celebrating the good side of those people while not forgetting all the other parts of the story . to tell this story without all the context is to do a disservice to history and false narratives are one a penny in irish and british history anyone with a slightly open mind would reject this due to having an education and seek a more nuanced understanding maybe one day othrs will make that documentarya poor effort 2.5 out of ten
Presbyterian is not the "Church of Ireland" or the "Church of England" or the "Church of Scotland" ???
The cruthin aren't made up lmao.
@@BounceBackBelfast err ummm
Eire Uladh ni Briotanach
You forget everything about Ulster? Formerly known as Ulaid made up of Cruithne (Ulster picts) who inhaibated Ireland (An Island) long before the Gael. The proof of this is preserves in almost every "Irish" document from the time of the Christian monks circa 5th century states this.
The descendents of Niall, known as "Ui Neill" took the red hand symbol from these same early Cruithne tribes who were kings of Ulster (Ulaid) too long before any southern alliance of proviences i.e the Republic.
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Ulster the Land of O'Neill and O'Donnell direct descendants of Neill of the 9-Hostages is as Irish as Irish can be. The rest is unproven hogwash.
Lol No if your on about these ulster scots morons then yes they are part pict.
Not British. Not Irish. Not Northern Irish.
Ulsterman.
The plantation is over why dont you go home.
To....? How can you 'go home' when you are at home?
mmmmm this is my home i was born here, what next are you going to do DNA tests to see who is "ethnically" Irish? let me burst your bubble there is no such thing as "ethnically pure " irish people ...