Watching this for the third time; the first time was back in 1980s when it came to U.S. television (PBS). Such quality productions are no longer made, nor are they tolerated by the Disneyfication-Hollywoodization of global mass media. Ones without rapid changing scenes, noise, clipped sentences and the rush to finish something. The purpose is to listen and engage with what the presenter and others are saying, whilst the visuals act secondary. No wonder there is ADHD: People can no longer concentrate, sit still. The entire art of being human on a communications level is being obliterated. Thankfully many old programs such as this can still be viewed.
Here's a review from The Times Preview June 1982: ' A second chance to see Robert Kee's masterly exercise in television journalism, spanning 800 years of the island's troubled and bloody history. For 13 weeks, the series maintains a level of objectivity that one would have thought well-nigh impossible. A deserving winner of the 1981 BAFTA award for the Best Factual Series.'
As someone who loves history, I’ve just started watching this documentary series today and so far it’s great (for the record I’m NOT Irish or of Irish descent).
In a way this documentary is like watching a history of Ukraine written by Russians. You get the Russian take on Ukraine, but you know there's probably more to the story.
Thank you Mickey for taking the time to post all these. I remember watching them years ago in Dublin as a kid. I'll try to watch them all now with the kids.
I would like more about Ireland itself (development of clans, chieftains, religious teachings etc), what made Ireland Irish not just its relation to Norman colonized England and the politics of the Troubles which are still fresh in the memory. So how about the next series from the BBC is titled something like: An Ancient and Medieval History of Ireland.
Not bad for 1980, not bad for a BBC/RTE co-production. Bears comparison with Feargal Keane's effort and BBC NI's A Short History of Ireland.A lot of overlooked truths covered in this first episode.
***** I did not say anything was overlooked in this episode, but that truths which are usually overlooked were actually included in this episode. And it's going to be hard for me to say what they are now as it's a while since I watched this and I've forgotten. :) It will have to do with the politics and the fact that the traditional Irish and British national narratives are not always accurate to what happened.
The Hill of Tara has been included in Season 4, Episode 11 episode of American Unearthed featuring forensic geologist Scott Wolter. This history explicates the required knowledge necessary to comprehend the history of the Gaels in America.
"the world court" 😂when should they have been brought to this "court" that didn't exist, they did what was natural back in those days and if you say Charles III is responsible for the sins of his ancestors, that is the dumbest thing ever
First shown on BBC2 here in Britain in the Autumn of 1980 from what I recall then repeated in 1982; I am not sure whether it has been shown since though. Thank you anyway of course too!!
31:30, finally , a mention of my Desmond/ FitzGerald/ Geraldine ancestors. Amazing how intertwined with this entire history that my family was involved in.
at 4 minutes"Ireland,s claim to be a nation" it always amazes me how the British establishment always constantly forgot that their predecessors took Ireland over and coerced Ireland to be part of the UK
Martina Murray most of the Irish enjoyed being part Commonwealth... If WW1 hadn't had started we would be under home rule with the Presbyterian scot fucks being the group in protest...Ireland will always need a big healthy bosom to suckle upon. Simple economic calculation. Tourism will not keep a modern country in a state of well being.
Wardy Ward for the love of.....History Revisionism is what you are doing here. As a matter of fact the Irish did not enjoy being under British control, we know this because there constant rebellion throughout the centuries and as for "enjoying" in the 1840,s the Irish starved because the British government was shipping food out of Ireland.This bred further resentment in the following generations of Irish.Those who lived in Ireland who wanted or didn,t mind being ruled over by the British government/establishment,tended to be protestant people with British ancestry and often unionist views.Home rule would have been a stepping stone towards full independence eventually just like the Irish Free state. If Ireland was not so catholic church dominated after the 1920,s ,then maybe, just maybe the northern Ireland unionists would have let Northern Ireland be part of the republic of Ireland,(and a lot of them would likely have left Northern Ireland for Britain). The rest of what you typed was gibberish.And since I know you are tollig, I am not going to reply back to any further BS comments of yours.
No, Martina, it wasn't meant for you; apologies if it threw you briefly. I'm certain I'll get a typically foul-mouthed response from the intended recipient - Wardy Ward - in due time. I'm wondering, should I rise to his/her bait or should I ignore as, apart from not wishing to waste my time engaging with the bigot, I'm pretty sure I've made my point? Yes, I'll ignore it.
Wardy Ward: Do you carry a gun? You're clearly a racist. You can't describe Scots without resorting to foul language. I would suggest to you that Scots, having been settled in the Northern part of Ireland for a few hundred years, have well-and-truly integrated, dontcha think? I've never met a Northern Irish citizen with a Scottish accent. Maybe you'd get more respect if you tempered your talk, calmed-down a little, tried not to be so bitter? Have a nice day.
Not to be racist, but this series of documentaries is from 1980, before the Celtic Tiger, before the IRA ceasefire, before the Hunger Strikes and before Britain gave a crap about Ireland.
Which is also propaganda. I got a lot out of that one, but it definitely had a spin. And when they got to the famine, it took no responsibility at all for what happened and the anger that finally exploded.
Dál Riata (also Dalriada or Dalriata) was a Gaelic overkingdom on the western coast of Scotland (then Pict-land) and part of Ulster. In the late 6th and early 7th century it encompassed roughly what is now Argyll and Bute and Lochaber in Scotland and also County Antrim in Northern Ireland. The video mentioned that the perhaps people inhabated Ireland from the mainland, wrong
irish sence of being irish and separate from britain ....was always there ... after much trying to beat it out of us .. banning our native language... we fought on ... and got independence...... and we will get the north back to ...... cause the northern loyalists are lrish .... brits jus bought them with land .... its sad ....
Hogen whats sad is your lack of understanding of Ireland's history and your bigotry. The Irish government has invested lots of money in the language and less people speak it .The truth is most people don't care enough to learn it.
@@edwardtanner6393 Based on the quality of spelling and punctuation on some of the posts here, they could do with investing some more money in teaching the English language too.
@@EricIrl good idea take all the money being spent on Irish and put it into making sure peoples spelling and punctuation is correct . Because the grammar police must not be offended at any cost. Ireland has enough problems .
@@EricIrl I know plenty of Irish people with perfect grammar and spelling. There are English people with poor spelling and dire grammar too. You should be grateful, that you had someone who taught you properly. Stop making fun of others not as fortunate, or who have dyslexia.
As a person unfamiliar with this far back in Irish history, will begin this series. After all the one on Vietnam was for the most part brilliant. Now as I read the comments, many Irish are denouncing this series as British propaganda. Ok, fair enough. But can I ask, what documentary(ies) would any of you recommend that covers these topics presented in this series what would not be considered British propaganda? Thanks!
Covers too much ground in this episode in my view. Was hoping for more detail on Dalriada and the close history between West Scotland and North Easter Ireland. That puts a different perspective on the usual narrative... still thanks for posting its an interesting series...
IANA Excellent comment. I found this first part interesting and sound enough but would have liked an episode on all the different periods of invasion (Iberian, Viking, Norman Welsh and English , Angevin, Tudor etc) covered by this single episode and squeezed some of the later periods together in later episodes. I still plan on watching the rest but this has already pretty much taken us up to the beginning of the Seventeenth Century leaving only 400 hundred years out of the 8,000 to cover in the rest of the series! No doubt a lot is going to be devoted to modern politics.
🔑 800 years of being held and oppressed. There's a deep purpose in this, a clear point of gaining a habit of being "Conscious in Thought" + "Applying Higher Mined", ie: evolving of self and experiences, as defined in the through comprehension of the "Universal Law of Attraction", the Divine Design and key to our Individual and Collective Life Journey(s). The "Universal Law of Attraction" is "Absolute". "Thought + Feelings X Beliefs" = our Created "Reality" 🔑
British Propaganda Series of History, leaves out great detail of what really happens. Ireland was an Independent Nation in Brehon Law, Culture, Language, and Church.
There are substantial traces leading back 5000 years, however Ireland was inhabated almost 8000 - 12000 years before, it was one of the last places to emerge from the ice age
Simon Schama's A History of Britain refers to the attempt by Robert the Bruce's brother Edward to bring Ireland into the war against Edward II with disastrous results.
All people, have the right to self determination. They can vote, to form a distinct and different society (nation state). If that is simply respected, then so many wars could be avoided, including the current day. You cant put germans inside poland, or brits inside Ireland or any such thing, without causing wars and unrest. The most backward nation state societies need only be left alone,to their own devices, unmolested, provided they can stay to themselves and do not spread their ideas and migrants to invade other places.
Truly weird. This is not a history of Ireland but a history of England's opinon of Ireland. Start getting perturbed whae the script goes on about the makeup of the Irish which is described by reference to blood rather thaan DNA,
It always amazes me how we are viewed by the English as this problem land and how will be deal with it its such a problem for us. What a load of utter nonsense. Imagine if you never invaded in the first place imagine if you never committed Genocide in Ireland not once but twice 1649, 1845-1850. England created the problem over and over again the majority of Irish people never ever wanted to be ruled by the English and its nothing to do with Religion its to do with self determination.
The Palestinians, on the other hand, in my lifetime, have never had any major tv, radio, or print support for their cause-Israelis can do no wrong. The "peace process"-that is an example of Zionist humor.
This show is an absolute disgrace. Jumps from Edward the seventh's visit in to the line 'then out of the blus there was an uprising in Dublin'. Out of the blue? :D Jaysus.
Britain should get out and stay out of Ireland. Ireland, having gained total independence should return to the brehon system that brits outlawed in 1603.
So A: Respect your Fellow Citizens as Citizens...And B:Respect international Law.Oh I Know "it's A "NEW PLAN"....But Facts Are..it's Either That...or A Complete WASHOUT!
Thomas Maisling,I am Irish have lived here all my life. I have yet to hear that ,Top of the morning,crap.Probably from the imagination of some Disney employee.
@@brianbreen1026 wow blast from the past. you're really digging up the dinosaur bones here man. Not surprisingly I forgot I ever made that comment since it was 6 years ago, but I imagine I was well lubricated and just meant it as a silly joke. I know what you mean though. I spent nearly a year in County Cork and never heard anyone say anything like that.
This fricken "documentary" of Ireland opens with the image of some propagandist ball-bag standing in front of Westminster. "Irish problem" my arse... the "Irish problem" is British settler colonialism. These are my impressions after watching a mere 01m:26s of the video... guess I should give it a fair shake before putting it back in.
+PMS This just keeps getting worse... repeated use of terms such as "pagan", "nation", and "invasion", leads me to believe that this imperial apologist rhetoric will simply not relent. I'm outta here at 16m:40s...
+PMS I've just finished this episode and I thought it was fairly unbiased. Yes some key events were glossed over, but It's a long series so I'll wait and see how much is covered. But the presenter seemed to make it clear that whilst Ireland was never really at peace with itself, its ways and culture have always been very different from England in a way that makes English rule in Ireland wrong and illegitimate. He also made sure to emphasise England's sheer brutality in the conquering of the Irish and the "Old English", orginally Norman invaders themselves.
+Mickey Fluter Sorry Mickey, I don't mean to dump on your posted video content. I truly appreciate any effort of the UA-cam community to post educational material. I merely take issue with the manner in which the material is articulated by the producers of the documentary... from the British perspective.
Robert Kelly There is no British obsession. I'm not entirely sure there was in 1921, altho there was certainly a bloody-minded determination to hold on to as much of the empire as possible. Now, a large number of British want to wash their hands of NI. The Troubles dragged on for too long, the worst of it's over, we've started to see nationhood differently, Scotland practically flew the coop and yet still could, both UK and ROI have secularised and their problems are similar (credit crunch & downturn, EU, immigration). Almost everyone in Britain sees NI as just another part of Ireland (obviously not Rangers supporters), the natural influence of common geography (which island are you on) is starting to override any residual attachment to "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
Robert Kelly As for the poor misguided Protestants... Orangeism is silly, but I have to admit I could see the concern about influence from the Catholic church on politics and society during the dark days of Fianna Fail conservatism. If the likes of James Connolly had had more influence on the nascent Republic we might have seen a more progressive secular culture open to Ulster Protestants in a way that would have fulfilled the intentions of Wolfe Tone and the United Irishmen.
Watching this for the third time; the first time was back in 1980s when it came to U.S. television (PBS). Such quality productions are no longer made, nor are they tolerated by the Disneyfication-Hollywoodization of global mass media. Ones without rapid changing scenes, noise, clipped sentences and the rush to finish something. The purpose is to listen and engage with what the presenter and others are saying, whilst the visuals act secondary. No wonder there is ADHD: People can no longer concentrate, sit still. The entire art of being human on a communications level is being obliterated. Thankfully many old programs such as this can still be viewed.
I have ADHD and like seeing programs like this.
humans deserve no less
There's still quality programming, but you have to look hard to find it. Sir Simon Schama's _History of Britain_ is a good example
Here's a review from The Times Preview June 1982: ' A second chance to see Robert Kee's masterly exercise in television journalism, spanning 800 years of the island's troubled and bloody history. For 13 weeks, the series maintains a level of objectivity that one would have thought well-nigh impossible. A deserving winner of the 1981 BAFTA award for the Best Factual Series.'
Great series. Watched it on tv as a kid around 1980
Thank you for making this available, remember watching this when I was a youngster, 78, or 79.
Thank you for these episodes Mickey.. Good job a VHS was made...
As someone who loves history, I’ve just started watching this documentary series today and so far it’s great (for the record I’m NOT Irish or of Irish descent).
Nothing wrong there. I at least knew someone who came from Ireland when I was younger who was friends with my grandma.
As someone of Irish descent, I’m grateful that the Irish eventually developed a free and Republican nation, only 800 years after being occupied,
In a way this documentary is like watching a history of Ukraine written by Russians. You get the Russian take on Ukraine, but you know there's probably more to the story.
@@warrenpaine True.
@@ATLmodK What people were really "free" before the 19th and 20th century?
Thank you Mickey for taking the time to post all these. I remember watching them years ago in Dublin as a kid. I'll try to watch them all now with the kids.
Hello Brian Ralph from another Ralph in Ireland.. Did you know that the archbishop of Armagh in 1360 was Richard FitzRalph?
I remember seeing this in 1980 only once and not all the episodes very glad you have them here to watch again thank you for posting these shows
🇮🇪 Woa! 13 hrs of this? Cant wait!
Howdy from Texas🇨🇱 to all my brothers and sisters in Ireland and the rest of the Isles!
R.I.P. a Great man i learned so much from his series in the 80ths
I would like more about Ireland itself (development of clans, chieftains, religious teachings etc), what made Ireland Irish not just its relation to Norman colonized England and the politics of the Troubles which are still fresh in the memory.
So how about the next series from the BBC is titled something like: An Ancient and Medieval History of Ireland.
This is clearly Irish history told from a British perspective.
Not bad for 1980, not bad for a BBC/RTE co-production. Bears comparison with Feargal Keane's effort and BBC NI's A Short History of Ireland.A lot of overlooked truths covered in this first episode.
***** I did not say anything was overlooked in this episode, but that truths which are usually overlooked were actually included in this episode. And it's going to be hard for me to say what they are now as it's a while since I watched this and I've forgotten. :) It will have to do with the politics and the fact that the traditional Irish and British national narratives are not always accurate to what happened.
The Hill of Tara has been included in Season 4, Episode 11 episode of American Unearthed featuring forensic geologist Scott Wolter. This history explicates the required knowledge necessary to comprehend the history of the Gaels in America.
Link? Sounds interesting
Many thanks for uploading this excellent series, which I haven't seen since it was first broadcast (in 1980, I think)
The Catholic Church and its teachings have a strong hold in Ireland.
I'd say they had, not so anymore. People aren't fond of a group of men touching their kids, even if those priests are a minority
The Royal family of England should be taken to the world court and charged with crimes against humanity .
"the world court" 😂when should they have been brought to this "court" that didn't exist, they did what was natural back in those days and if you say Charles III is responsible for the sins of his ancestors, that is the dumbest thing ever
First shown on BBC2 here in Britain in the Autumn of 1980 from what I recall then repeated in 1982; I am not sure whether it has been shown since though. Thank you anyway of course too!!
31:30, finally , a mention of my Desmond/ FitzGerald/ Geraldine ancestors. Amazing how intertwined with this entire history that my family was involved in.
at 4 minutes"Ireland,s claim to be a nation" it always amazes me how the British establishment always constantly forgot that their predecessors took Ireland over and coerced Ireland to be part of the UK
Martina Murray most of the Irish enjoyed being part Commonwealth... If WW1 hadn't had started we would be under home rule with the Presbyterian scot fucks being the group in protest...Ireland will always need a big healthy bosom to suckle upon. Simple economic calculation. Tourism will not keep a modern country in a state of well being.
Wardy Ward for the love of.....History Revisionism is what you are doing here. As a matter of fact the Irish did not enjoy being under British control, we know this because there constant rebellion throughout the centuries and as for "enjoying" in the 1840,s the Irish starved because the British government was shipping food out of Ireland.This bred further resentment in the following generations of Irish.Those who lived in Ireland who wanted or didn,t mind being ruled over by the British government/establishment,tended to be protestant people with British ancestry and often unionist views.Home rule would have been a stepping stone towards full independence eventually just like the Irish Free state. If Ireland was not so catholic church dominated after the 1920,s ,then maybe, just maybe the northern Ireland unionists would have let Northern Ireland be part of the republic of Ireland,(and a lot of them would likely have left Northern Ireland for Britain). The rest of what you typed was gibberish.And since I know you are tollig, I am not going to reply back to any further BS comments of yours.
K3KCT i assume this comment wasn,t meant for me.
No, Martina, it wasn't meant for you; apologies if it threw you briefly.
I'm certain I'll get a typically foul-mouthed response from the intended recipient - Wardy Ward - in due time. I'm wondering, should I rise to his/her bait or should I ignore as, apart from not wishing to waste my time engaging with the bigot, I'm pretty sure I've made my point? Yes, I'll ignore it.
Wardy Ward: Do you carry a gun? You're clearly a racist. You can't describe Scots without resorting to foul language. I would suggest to you that Scots, having been settled in the Northern part of Ireland for a few hundred years, have well-and-truly integrated, dontcha think? I've never met a Northern Irish citizen with a Scottish accent. Maybe you'd get more respect if you tempered your talk, calmed-down a little, tried not to be so bitter?
Have a nice day.
This should be called England's history of domination.
Not to be racist, but this series of documentaries is from 1980, before the Celtic Tiger, before the IRA ceasefire, before the Hunger Strikes and before Britain gave a crap about Ireland.
Niall Dempsey
What do you mean, and how are you being racist?
British gave a crap about Ireland by 1169
Way better than the more recently produced BBC one
Which is also propaganda. I got a lot out of that one, but it definitely had a spin. And when they got to the famine, it took no responsibility at all for what happened and the anger that finally exploded.
35:38
I love the combination of horror and jolly upbeat medieval music.
Interesting and in depth history of the republican/unionist troubles.
I've been reading Kee's The Green Flag, as well as the book of this series, and wondered whether it could be on UA-cam...Many thanks.
Dál Riata (also Dalriada or Dalriata) was a Gaelic overkingdom on the western coast of Scotland (then Pict-land) and part of Ulster. In the late 6th and early 7th century it encompassed roughly what is now Argyll and Bute and Lochaber in Scotland and also County Antrim in Northern Ireland. The video mentioned that the perhaps people inhabated Ireland from the mainland, wrong
Sean Paul
A Scot.
www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Scot
Do you have this one please Ireland television history - Connaught Rangers Mutiny
this is like General Custer. giving the history of Native Americans
Michael Collins "masterminded the whole Irish Republican campaign"? Hardly!
Wolfe Tone we as the mastermind behind Irish Republicanism.
Hi do you have a copy of this with the bit before the opening titles?
Very interesting
where can I download this
What's up with the split screen?
irish sence of being irish and separate from britain ....was always there ... after much trying to beat it out of us .. banning our native language... we fought on ... and got independence...... and we will get the north back to ...... cause the northern loyalists are lrish .... brits jus bought them with land .... its sad ....
Hogen whats sad is your lack of understanding of Ireland's history and your bigotry.
The Irish government has invested lots of money in the language and less people speak it .The truth is most people don't care enough to learn it.
@@edwardtanner6393 Based on the quality of spelling and punctuation on some of the posts here, they could do with investing some more money in teaching the English language too.
@@EricIrl good idea take all the money being spent on Irish and put it into making sure peoples spelling and punctuation is correct .
Because the grammar police must not be offended at any cost.
Ireland has enough problems .
26+6=1
@@EricIrl I know plenty of Irish people with perfect grammar and spelling. There are English people with poor spelling and dire grammar too. You should be grateful, that you had someone who taught you properly. Stop making fun of others not as fortunate, or who have dyslexia.
As a person unfamiliar with this far back in Irish history, will begin this series. After all the one on Vietnam was for the most part brilliant. Now as I read the comments, many Irish are denouncing this series as British propaganda. Ok, fair enough.
But can I ask, what documentary(ies) would any of you recommend that covers these topics presented in this series what would not be considered British propaganda? Thanks!
Bolshevik Carpetbagger amen
The victor writes the history. Read or watch with that eye.
@pc4764 Not always. In more topics than one, it is the loser who writes the history.
Covers too much ground in this episode in my view. Was hoping for more detail on Dalriada and the close history between West Scotland and North Easter Ireland. That puts a different perspective on the usual narrative... still thanks for posting its an interesting series...
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IANA Excellent comment. I found this first part interesting and sound enough but would have liked an episode on all the different periods of invasion (Iberian, Viking, Norman Welsh and English , Angevin, Tudor etc) covered by this single episode and squeezed some of the later periods together in later episodes. I still plan on watching the rest but this has already pretty much taken us up to the beginning of the Seventeenth Century leaving only 400 hundred years out of the 8,000 to cover in the rest of the series! No doubt a lot is going to be devoted to modern politics.
i must get this on dvd any one know where
Why can't you just watch it here .. it's the same programmes🤔🤔
I think this series was broadcasted on the 10th anniversary of Bloody Sunday.
🔑 800 years of being held and oppressed. There's a deep purpose in this, a clear point of gaining a habit of being "Conscious in Thought" + "Applying Higher Mined", ie: evolving of self and experiences, as defined in the through comprehension of the "Universal Law of Attraction", the Divine Design and key to our Individual and Collective Life Journey(s).
The "Universal Law of Attraction" is "Absolute".
"Thought + Feelings X Beliefs"
= our Created "Reality"
🔑
😂 what utter bullshit
British Propaganda Series of History, leaves out great detail of what really happens.
Ireland was an Independent Nation in Brehon Law, Culture, Language, and Church.
hmmmmm considering when this was made, many brits were being killed the irish. kinda makes sense
Ireland was not a nation, It was a series of kingdoms that had a single culture but not a unified unit
Where did you get this !!!
There are substantial traces leading back 5000 years, however Ireland was inhabated almost 8000 - 12000 years before, it was one of the last places to emerge from the ice age
Also , one of the last places to emerge into the 20th century -
I think it finally happened in 1980 s. ? ( May be later in Sligo ? )
There is no such thing as a little dependence and there never will be.
It's like being a little pregnant.
I suggest the book of Jeremiah kjv and the book The Famine Ships by Edward Laxton.
Very very Ennglish leaning. For one thing the earls fled to raise armies on the continent not to voluntary exile.
Go raibh maith agat a chara.......excellent viewing
Simon Schama's A History of Britain refers to the attempt by Robert the Bruce's brother Edward to bring Ireland into the war against Edward II with disastrous results.
BTW...The Irish And Ireland is a Land of Saints and Scholars🥁☘️✨️👍✨️☘️
Correction. FitzPatrick isn't Norman unlike Fitzgerald.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitzpatrick_(surname) it just is though it combines Norman and Irish names
And So too The Very High Kings
i read the big ass book version in jail
All people, have the right to self determination. They can vote, to form a distinct and different society (nation state). If that is simply respected, then so many wars could be avoided, including the current day. You cant put germans inside poland, or brits inside Ireland or any such thing, without causing wars and unrest. The most backward nation state societies need only be left alone,to their own devices, unmolested, provided they can stay to themselves and do not spread their ideas and migrants to invade other places.
Truly weird. This is not a history of Ireland but a history of England's opinon of Ireland. Start getting perturbed whae the script goes on about the makeup of the Irish which is described by reference to blood rather thaan DNA,
Irish and British history becomes intermixed from that 1 May day in 1169
Made it sound like we didn't get rid of the Norse before the Normans..
Doesn't Elizabeth 1 look like Thatcher
Lizzy I was not incompetent leader that is a difference.
Time the brits were sent packin out of lreland leave lreland for the lrish 1916
Well if we had to send back the Irish in the UK you'd be screwed
It always amazes me how we are viewed by the English as this problem land and how will be deal with it its such a problem for us. What a load of utter nonsense. Imagine if you never invaded in the first place imagine if you never committed Genocide in Ireland not once but twice 1649, 1845-1850. England created the problem over and over again the majority of Irish people never ever wanted to be ruled by the English and its nothing to do with Religion its to do with self determination.
The Palestinians, on the other hand, in my lifetime, have never had any major tv, radio, or print support for their cause-Israelis can do no wrong.
The "peace process"-that is an example of Zionist humor.
Here's The Solution...Respect international Law
Tá sé suimiúil stair na tíre is fearr leat a fhoghlaim
This show is an absolute disgrace. Jumps from Edward the seventh's visit in to the line 'then out of the blus there was an uprising in Dublin'. Out of the blue? :D Jaysus.
Britain should get out and stay out of Ireland. Ireland, having gained total independence should return to the brehon system that brits outlawed in 1603.
do i hear garryowen
So A: Respect your Fellow Citizens as Citizens...And B:Respect international Law.Oh I Know "it's A "NEW PLAN"....But Facts Are..it's Either That...or A Complete WASHOUT!
Associating terrorism with newgrange hmm
STONEHENGE WAS CELTIC NOT BRITISH AS IN SAXON AS IS THE CASE BRETON WAS CELTIC THE NAME WAS CELTIC LAWS
Stonehenge had nothing to do with the Celts. Its far earlier than that. It was the Neolithic people who built it and other prehistoric henges.
Celtic is a language group, not a cohesive grouping of people. And Stonehenge was "pre Celtic", it was neolithic.
a republic its best, the public should manage and govern themselves not by monarchies and their latifundium. (monopoly)
Happy Canabis Day!🇨🇦📂🫂🌎👍☘️🥁✨️
Top o' the mornin' to ya.
Thomas Maisling,I am Irish have lived here all my life. I have yet to hear that ,Top of the morning,crap.Probably from the imagination of some Disney employee.
@@brianbreen1026 wow blast from the past. you're really digging up the dinosaur bones here man.
Not surprisingly I forgot I ever made that comment since it was 6 years ago, but I imagine I was well lubricated and just meant it as a silly joke. I know what you mean though. I spent nearly a year in County Cork and never heard anyone say anything like that.
@@brianbreen1026 I was going to give them a very American "GET BENT!"
Don't Like it?/I Don't Care
So english that accent
It appears to be a one sided story!
Linda Carroll I like the music though sd
Look up Micheal Tsarion and John Lamb Lash for a well worth it if a study! 🧐
This fricken "documentary" of Ireland opens with the image of some propagandist ball-bag standing in front of Westminster. "Irish problem" my arse... the "Irish problem" is British settler colonialism.
These are my impressions after watching a mere 01m:26s of the video... guess I should give it a fair shake before putting it back in.
+PMS This just keeps getting worse... repeated use of terms such as "pagan", "nation", and "invasion", leads me to believe that this imperial apologist rhetoric will simply not relent. I'm outta here at 16m:40s...
+PMS 16 minutes out of a 13 hour series. Congrats! Maybe stick to something within your attention span next time.
+PMS I've just finished this episode and I thought it was fairly unbiased. Yes some key events were glossed over, but It's a long series so I'll wait and see how much is covered.
But the presenter seemed to make it clear that whilst Ireland was never really at peace with itself, its ways and culture have always been very different from England in a way that makes English rule in Ireland wrong and illegitimate. He also made sure to emphasise England's sheer brutality in the conquering of the Irish and the "Old English", orginally Norman invaders themselves.
+Mickey Fluter [punch.photoshelter.com/image/I0000V28FBzT8i0M]
+Mickey Fluter Sorry Mickey, I don't mean to dump on your posted video content. I truly appreciate any effort of the UA-cam community to post educational material. I merely take issue with the manner in which the material is articulated by the producers of the documentary... from the British perspective.
Up the RA
Brits out!!
Many "Irish people" are of Anglo Norman stock. Do you want to send them back too!
@@marypetrie930 nah just a United 32 county free country would do ..
26+6=1 free marian price now
They should leave Ireland alone. The two nations should be content as allies. Does the queen of England really need more money?
What are you talking about? Do you think Northern Ireland is still part of the UK because the Queen wants more money?
Matthew McVeagh Because misguided protestants think we will massacre them if their united Ireland poor dumb fools.
Britain will never leave Ireland alone hence planted colonist in Northern Ireland British obsession with us is quite sicking.
Robert Kelly There is no British obsession. I'm not entirely sure there was in 1921, altho there was certainly a bloody-minded determination to hold on to as much of the empire as possible. Now, a large number of British want to wash their hands of NI. The Troubles dragged on for too long, the worst of it's over, we've started to see nationhood differently, Scotland practically flew the coop and yet still could, both UK and ROI have secularised and their problems are similar (credit crunch & downturn, EU, immigration). Almost everyone in Britain sees NI as just another part of Ireland (obviously not Rangers supporters), the natural influence of common geography (which island are you on) is starting to override any residual attachment to "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
Robert Kelly As for the poor misguided Protestants... Orangeism is silly, but I have to admit I could see the concern about influence from the Catholic church on politics and society during the dark days of Fianna Fail conservatism. If the likes of James Connolly had had more influence on the nascent Republic we might have seen a more progressive secular culture open to Ulster Protestants in a way that would have fulfilled the intentions of Wolfe Tone and the United Irishmen.
The English in Ireland - The Nazis before the Nazis.
Empire was natural though my dude, we would've done it if we unified faster and no one can deny it