The Siege Of Derry 1689( BBC Documentary)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- A great documentary detailing the rebellion in which the citizens of Derry locked their king and his men out of the city in 1689, in support of the Dutch invasion of England.The great academic historians of this generation tell the story of Derry's siege and related incidents.
My 7th great-grandfather, Johne MacRanalds of Keppoch (Scotland), was an officer in William III's army & was present all thru the Siege of Londonderry. It is said that during the worse of the siege my ancestor beat a man who allowed a rat to escape.
After the defeat of James, my ancestor settled in Ulster.
This story has always fascinated me, especially with a family connection to the seige of Derry.
Has he ever mentioned the jesuits in particular?
*Derry
@@chadreddick5528please elaborate
@@adamdean988 history hides history by calling them jacobites and Williamites. It should say roman catholic vs. Protestant Reformation. See also REVELATION 11 "witnesses" - ACTS 24:5 "ringleader" is Protestant in the original greek. From 1390-1834 is the age of the Witnesses.
@@adamdean988 the jesuits are a military order of the roman catholic church. They are designed for secret infiltration from the top down.
This story should have been a Hollywood blockbuster long before now, the ramifications shaped Europe for ever!
Yes, however that would mean hollywood would have to pause their love affair for the IRA and make a movie about irish protestants instead.
@@mickb52 PRICK
AM A CATHOLIC FROM THE SOUTH AND I MUST SAY THAT THE SIEGE OF DERRY WAS A GREAT UNKNOWN TRIUMPH FOR YOUR PEOPLES .STOOD SO WELL
I LOVE MY HISTORY ETC ETC LOL
@Karl Wilson Have you seen what those Bastards at UA-cam have done to 'Londonderry Roaring Meg' ? BANNED him!!!!!
I've read Israel book about the event
The Spanish Armada (150 ships ) plays a central role in English history
But the Dutch Armada ( 800 ships ) is nearly forgotten
Jeroen Wubbels
Indeed, while the Dutch brought the spanish to their knees and Brittish to their knees. They recovered later on, but the Dutch were a big force even the most powerfull force at a certain point in history mainly due to privatisation of the navy / trade.
As well as liberal freedom of thought, they were a scientific model of their time. Science + Money = power.
Cromwell beat the dutch
@@si4632 No he did not.....he was given a kickin by them....Dutch kicked his ass..
@@michaelahern9883 Then why didn't they kick the nazi butts instead of waiting to the British to save their tulip asses.
Great stuff! Thanks for a very moving presentation.
Another very good BBC documentary that, for some reason, features a "host" much too prominently. He makes a fine narrator, but I can't understand the need to have him constantly striking poses & looking discerning - all the while blocking the historical landscapes & buildings. Still, it's very well done.
To be fair, the programme is based on Gebler's own book 'The Siege of Derry', so he's not just a host. It's an old fashioned (and cheap) way of presenting this type of programme, more historian's personal essay than documentary.
I don't mind this style - to me it's preferable by far to the "dramatised" history (often narrated by someone who knows next to nothing of the subject) that is currently in fashion.
@@markchambers3833 Well I hope he worked out that there is no fishing village called 'Torbay'for his book. If he gets something that well known wrong, how much of the rest of this is erroneous?I came here looking for good history; if I hear one so Obvious error, I am gone!
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 I don't follow your meaning. Please explain.
@@markchambers3833 i would have thought it was obvious? if someone narrating his own work can get something so glaringly wrong in the first few minutes and No one notices, it doesn't say much for the following content does it? I am sure that it was just a slip, as the map does clearly show Brixham,and Torbay as the area, but it shows shoddy production and I would rather find something that seems to have been done with more attention to detail. That's all. I don't know much about the Siege of Derry and I wanted to learn from people who do.
OK. Look around 5.49. when he says 'William landed at the small fishing village of Torbay' There s No fishing village of Torbay. It is exactly what it says, the name of a Bay, now known as 'The English Riviera' William Did land at the small fishing village of Brixham, where there is statue and a plaque to that effect. (And is in Torbay.) This is UK infant school stuff. If they can't be arsed to get that simple fact right, how much else is incorrect?
My 8th great grandfather Abraham Blair took part in the siege and was later granted tax exempt status by King William for his efforts. He left for America in 1718 where he founded Londonderry, New Hampshire.
There is no Londonderry in Ireland....
@@zenjen1295 I didn’t say there was specifically, if you can read my comment properly. But there are 8 places called Londonderry in the whole world. The name must have come from somewhere.
@@KyleEricksonPoetry1617 Yeah, but the nationalists in NI call it Derry.
@@themaskedman221 Look, it’s the historical name for the place. Same as Kingstown for Dun Laoghaire and Queenstown for Cork. My grandmother remembers when it was called Kingstown. In my country Canada they are starting to rename places, including my town, and I can see the insidious agenda behind it. I’m not a fan of renaming places. So when they start renaming everything and everywhere as the replacement continues, just know it was started by the Irish. Same with the tearing down and blowing up statues, and not even replacing them with anything decent. That started there too. I personally would have much rather seen a nice statue of them all in front of the GPO instead of the stupid “Needle.”
@@KyleEricksonPoetry1617 Did I say it has no historical precedent? Of course it does, but nationalists reject the name because it has "London" in it.
Incredible courage inside the city, incredible incompetence in the relief force.
They should never have been there in the first place
With heart on hand and sword and shield we’ll guard old Derry’s walls
@Pat McCaliskey Free Derry Tiocfaidh Ar La
And still after all these years,they are still at it,don’t tell me they are not.
You shouldn’t even be there. Defending something you stole.
Pat mcpopcorn teeth we are the People fuck the taigs
@@glezgaboy9390 I heard the Irish Catholics are soon to be the majority in NI with the loyalist population aging and old.
Thank you for uploading this. I'm an American, and if my research is correct, a descendant of George Walker and was curious about the history surrounding him.
Edit: Okay, it would seem my "Walker" line began in the 1790's with a misapplied surname at birth, if Y-DNA tests of relatives are to be believed. Still, as a lover of history, it was fun to learn.
Then you and I are related, as my grandfather traced our family to George Gervais Walker. As I mentioned above, he found a book titled "Walker of Derry" that I still have. It's no longer available but it contains a great deal of information about him, his life, his bravery and dedication to protecting the citizens. He was a warrior as well as a minister... as I serve as pastor at my small church I'm fascinated by this unlikely yet needed combination. I wish you and your family well. I'm Jim Walker, btw.
@@wfxxfox1963 You're sure that's not the book Governor Walker wrote about himself? 😂
It's pretty annoying that Walker is one of the best sources we have for the events in Derry as he's prone not only to self-aggrandisement and exaggeration but at times outright lies.
Still, he's an important figure in the Williamite wars. Just maybe not as important as he said he was.
@@wfxxfox1963 There used to be a giant column to his memory on the walls of Derry. It was blown up by terrorists in the 1970s.
My great x 2 grandmother was Margaret Walker, and she descended from Godfrey Walker, brother of George, I have been doing my tree for 8 years now, and I am also DNA related to Taaffe's from county Louth, I have not figured out how though, but at least 2 of them died fighting for James outside the walls of Derry.
I enjoyed Mr. Doherty's ongoing analysis but his final words were somewhat incomplete. The Siege of Derry was felt not just in the European countries, but in America as well. The Ulster Scotts, incensed at the perceived betrayal by Anglican England and a continued mortal threat from the Irish Catholics, poured out of northern Ireland and into North America. Shunned by both the New England Puritans and the Cavalier Planter society in coastal Virginia, they were forced into the back country of the Appalachian Mountains and became the defining culture of America: The Scotts-Irish or Scotch-Irish. It was a tough set of circumstances they faced, but they were tough people and their experience inside the walls of Derry helped prepare them for Cherokee war parties, Pumas and hard work. Basically, without The Siege of Derry, America as we know it would not exist. And I love my country!
Grafton Hale explains a lot
Grafton Hale Right you are, thats when my 9th great gf came over and his son my 8th ggf was born in virginia in 1700 before settling in south carolina.After the civil war we came to Texas and have been here ever since.
Nice story but unfortunately untrue. The Ulster Scots left in the early 18th century because of the high rents demanded by their protestant landlords. Economic reasons primarily.
@@kevingee4294 Cousin!
My 8th and 9th great grandfathers were at LondonDerry. Col Robert Blair and his Father Capt James Blair they came to America in 1718 their decendants then moving into Virginia around 1760 and into Kentucky around 1808 where many live today they indeed fought for and helped shape the country I am proud to call home and am not willing to surrender
Wow, Conrad De Rosen made Percy Kirk seem like a nice guy. I mean he did some sadistic stuff after Monmouth Rebellion but what De Rosen did in Derry was pure evil.
Here Kirke is presented as risk averse/over cautious, which is probably a fair assessment of his actions - or rather inaction - at Derry.
That inaction cost thousands of lives and almost lost Derry to the Jacobites. Had Derry fallen, the Jacobites could have concentrated their entire force on defeating the Enniskilleners and the entire war would have been in the balance. William would have had to launch a full scale invasion with no coherent military force already present in Ireland to support.
The history of Europe, let alone Ireland, may have been very different. It was a close run thing.
Cool documentary. A few of my ancestors were in Derry at the time of the siege. Alexander Wilson, one of those ancestors, was recognized for his service in defending the city.
Your ancestor was a traitor.
@@mgcostello William and Mary were the legitimate joint monarchs appointed by Parliament. The Jacobites funded by the French enemy were the traitors if anyone was.
@@richbryce5006 it was a coup.
@@mgcostello Not at all. Parliaments in England and Scotland deposed a would-be autocrat who had suspended Parliament to rule by royal decree. William had married Mary, the then legitimate heir to the crown before the [Catholic] Prince of Wales was born. There were very good reason's to believe that this baby was not really birthed by James' erstwhile barren wife, but was fraudulently passed off as legitimate to ensure a male heir to supplant Mary in the line of succession. Without that illegitimate heir Mary and William would have ruled on James' death. So not a coup, but Parliament asserting its primacy over the monarchy, as it should be.
@@richbryce5006 I'm sympathetic to the Williamite point of view but there isn't a shred of evidence that the stories of the baby being smuggled in in a bedwarmer are anything other than propaganda.
The legitimacy of the revolution was dubious to say the least. Parliament had no legal authority to remove the King (as it had had no legal authority to execute his father) as England was an absolute monarchy after the Restoration and a parliament could only act when called by the king. As to Ireland, James held the crown of Ireland in his own right, independent of England or the English parliament.
I think there was a good moral case to remove James, who was acting as a tyrant; and he abandoned his English throne with barely a wimper - throwing the great seal in the Thames as he fled the country.
The new settlement after the revolution, in establishing a constitutional monarchy and codifying the rights of the subject, was beneficial to both the soon to be created UK and the advancement of western democracy as a whole.
However, the defenders at Derry and the men of Enniskillen were rebels against their lawful king. They're even referred to as "rebels" in the loyal song 'Derry's Walls'.
God bless the apprentice boys for no surrender to to the enemies of our freedom religion and laws.
AlexanderGrahamBell Yeah most of em died of hunger and cold or the debtors jail all were quickly forgotten.
it was a coup de ta.
AMEN
1690 isn't that the 24 hour clock vershion of 5:30.
Our freedom religion and laws at the cost of the Irish freedom and religion.
I live in NI and I’m fed up and just wish we would move on
Alphanatrix1067 which community are u apart of?
Gideon Horwitz why does it matter? As he said we should move on and be peaceful
I'm not really that bothered all those who remember the violence of the troubles are slowly dieing and we lose interest. Soon there will be a United Ireland be sure of brexit(I know what I am talking about, I watched a video once)
@@benmcc347 A united Islamic Ireland now the Jesuits have replaced their Irish pawns with African ones.
I left all the "one town cowboys," in 1978.
Small minded people, full of hatred towards their neighbours.
Never looked back.
Beautiful music accompaniment - Congrats and compliments indeed!
Peter Weir should make a movie about this.
Tremendous video
Never forget your history 🇬🇧🇬🇧
All this because some inbred nut job wanted a divorce
William III was also James II's nephew. William married his 1st cousin.
Actually, William was James's son in law. Mary, William's wife, was James's Prodestant daughter, who James had with his first wife.
My name is Jim Walker, a direct descendent of George Gervais Walker, AKA Walker of Derry (also the name of a book my grandfather found in his trip to England to trace our family's history). It was a truly remarkable historical event and I dream of traveling to Londonderry and look upon the plaque dedicated to my ancestor. I've heard there was a large statue of him that was blown up by the IRA, but that a plaque served as a replacement. I look forward to this documentary and hearing what is reported about my ancestor.
Jim, If you have not already checked it out go to the "Family Search" web site. His Family Tree has been well researched and in particular if you follow the Stanhopes it goes very far back. I recently discovered that he was my 8th Great Grandfather. Kind Regards.
The official name of the city is Derry. It’s a catholic city today.
@@mgcostello My understanding is that the "official" name is in fact Londonderry. The London part was added to Derry when the city was granted a royal charter by James 1 in 1613 to reflect the funding of it's construction by London Guilds ( It had been been mostly destroyed by fire). I grew up in Derry as it is known by most people no matter of which religious persuasion.
The main thing now gers win the league linfield next
@@mgcostello catholic City which still loves the queen's money, it'll never be broken the protestants of the city will rise again no surrender
I’m a Unionist in Northern Ireland, figured it was about time I learnt about my own history in detail
You have no history .....your jocks that were shipped over from scotland and should be shipped back along with your Hate and cowardice . a united Ireland will prevail .....
up the uk
@@marcsaintgermain7870 spend a little more time reading history and a little less time being a bitter little prick
@@edwardtanner6393 explain your comment please
@@stickykitty i would rather explain my comment to marc .
Do you know marc ?
Are u a friend .
Or same person?
Loyalist Scotland supports our Brethren in Northern Ireland.
And normal Scots who don't give a f**k about the pope or Queen support our celtic cousins. The Irish
@@neildiamondo6445 Why would Scots support the Irish, who invaded and colonised our country. ?
@@mrsuperger5429 why do you support the English who tried forever invading and taking over?
@@neildiamondo6445 The Irish tribe, the Scotti, invaded and colonised our land and named the country after themselves, Scotland.
@@mrsuperger5429 I know. But they were from these Isles. The anglo saxons took over England. Then invaded for many hundreds of years. Finally absorbed Scotland as her bitch state in 1707.
Nowadays its a Nationalist city. Also by the standards of the time, James II was not really a religious persecutor. He issued the Declaration of Indulgence suspending the Penal laws against both Catholics and Presbyterians. But in those days, anti Catholicism mattered more to people than their own rights. Under William III, while some rights were granted to Presbyterians, it was less than under James' Declaration of 1688. To some extent, James II was being punished for Louis XIV's actual persecution of Protestants, which was feared would come to Britain and Ireland under a Catholic king. The part at 7 minutes in on the "letter" is similar to what happened in the "Irish Night" during the 1688 revolution, when false rumours of Irish soldiers planning massacres led to sectarian rioting.
I've lived in Australia for forty years and each time I visit home I feel the changes .The whole atmosphere has changed .It doesn't feel like the home I grew up in .It now seems like the republic only the name is British. We know why .
Why?
At least three of my ancestors died here during the siege, two in the April and one a year later likely due to the effects of the siege.
Thanks for sharing-No Surrender
@duncan stirling United Ireland secular free of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism both Anglican and Presbyterian.
No surrender ulster shall remain british
Do a documentary on the siege of limerick.
Yea
NO SURRENDER then now forever !!
Glen Taylor well said Glen!! popery is evil !!!
Erin go bra I probably spelled that wrong but you get the point
Éirinn go Brách** ahahah
No need to surrender, just be assimilated into a 32 County Republic of Ireland ;)
26 county**
The city is now 70% catholic, no surrender my hole
@Pat McCaliskey yust 2 here your hate of us well done
Still british isn't it ??
The debt we owe to the apprentice boys of Derry for their brave stance in the face of papist domination. should be a national celebration. No Surrender
You lot are loyal to a past that the Brits have long since left behind. get over it. and stop living in the past. As the tricolor will be flying over your city hall very soon. TAL32.
robert sutherland
I understand your debt, but time is past, in our days we have Internet, walk in the moon etc.. different philosophy. Is like Hitler, he did what he did. Hundreds of thousands of Irish and United Kingdom soldiers were killed , and now, many Anglo Saxons are buying Mercedes-Benz and BMW.
This is disgusting, lack of disrespect.
robert sutherland WtF This was a European battle and a coup and illegal one
Wit they huns like man no surrender, what about 2012?
Yoda Google lol lack of DISrespect?
And we have been fighting about it ever since at the cost of thousands of lives.
and that is why we remember think children men and women died because of religion and they flaunt it today like a trophy and they dont even know what happened
Ulster Loyalists for you
And the cry was “NO SURRENDER” and still is. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
At least now, prods and cats got the best Rugby team today.
Yes unbelievable. Scot here. We struggling to work out how to beat yous, TBH we can't, gotta hope it pours down with rain or sleet like we used to hope v England. 🤭🇮🇪🏴
It's a bit strange that horses were dying and rotting in the streets when the people were starving, When I'm hungry I don't mind a bit of roast horse.
Culture? Greenland vikings didn't eat fish.
@@bradmiller2329 dickhead
Probably diseased......but if you were starving , you could buy a dead rat for a shilling or a dead mouse for a penny .........now that’s what I call commitment !
@@nicktombs1876 That's your argument?
You can be well assured that in the 17th century - or at any other time in human history - anything non-human that can be eaten in a besieged city is eaten.
And sometimes humans are eaten too.
In Ireland the first 6 letters of London Derry are silent.
Big fan of this comment. well played.
In Ireland. Not in Northern Ireland.
Tensions in Belfast are heating up once again.
England should return the 6 counties back to the Republic. Then there won't be any more tensions!
***** Bullshite my friend. You think Ulster is up in arms now? If that were to happen there would be all out war.
***** .... and England's not the only country in the UK.
Eric Bush And there aren't just 26 counties in Ireland! Clearly you've never been to the North, EVERYWHERE you go there's murals and signs telling England to get out. They've been oppressing the Irish people for way too long. Meanwhile, in the house of commons they aren't even aware of anything that's going on. Whether you like it or not people from northern IRELAND are Irish not English/British etc. Derry/Newry/Armagh etc all Irish cities and should be returned to the Republic. The IRA is very very active up there at the minute. Saor Éireann.
***** What? I'm in Belfast as we speak!
Proud Apprentice Boy...VVV No Surrender...🇬🇧🏴
God Bless and Remember Those Gallent 13 Bold Apprentice Boys.
There Cry Was and Still is No Surrender.
Jungleloyalscouse Thankfully Britex will be the catalyst for a united Ireland .bye bye .
I would wager their grammar and spelling was probably better than yours....
Anyone know the Message Boy's name? There should be a Statue to him in Derry's Square!
@Port st Mary born & bred Funny those that live there call it Derry!
William junior
What a epic story God was on the Protestant side it seems.
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@Percy Harry Hotspur
Why what ?
@Percy Harry Hotspur
Possibly.
It was in the distant past, when I was a young boy. 5 years ago.
Im not sure if I still posses that power.
Ulster Loyalists too afriad of different opinions though British state was about free speech.
@@RobertK1993
Theyre afraid of everything.
But Britain has no laws protecting freedom of speech and expression.
I have two books. One by a British photojournalist.
They carried a 6 month jail sentence just to hold.
I have 2.
But every publication describing Republican aims or ideals were illegal.
That was over one a month for 35 years (actually , since 1923)
Thanks for this recently found out I’m descended from Capt Michael Browning.
I recently found out idc
Remember 1689 King Billys on the wall"
The Proper is Doire Colmcille (The Oak of Colmcille). You can figure out where the "London" came from.
+Liam Keyes Yes named in memory of companies that built the modern city, be thankful they built the dump you all love
+SuperAlbinoBob yes, the original town was destroyed by some rebels, the new city Londonderry was built with sponsorship from some London trade companies on the opposite bank.
The Oak of the servant of Colm?
Before it was sponsered by the City of London, Derry was a sparsely populated, boggy wasteland. Without the City of London, the lovely city that's there today - with its walls, public buildings and fine cathedral - wouldn't exist. Hence the name.
Latin for Fortress
My ancestor James Carrell sr. was imprisoned as part of this siege. He left for America shortly after.
this is why im proud to be an apprentice boy of derry. no surrender
Pretty sure its the Derry Boys that are Bigots as they follow the Solemn League and Covenant which was a movement that killed around 50.000 women for Witchcraft in SE Scotland and NE England Alone and around 10.000 Gay people
BOOOOKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEE ya greeb
NO SURRENDER! 1690!
Lol .... its happened. You just didn't read the memo 😘
Abit before my time so tell me what was the siege of Derry like as you seem to have a first hand account
@@Minime163 Yeah I lived there through the troubles and protestants still live under siege to this day so the cry is STILL No Surrender!
Interesting, according to Wikipedia, the relief fleet was commanded by Admiral Rooke, and Kirk wasn't mentioned at all. It also says that the city had artillery of it's own.
Double check EVERYTHING in Wikipedia. It's a good start point, but don't stop there!
I have no idea who’s who here!
God bless protestant Ulster.
I wouldn't claim a lot of these so called Protestant are actually protestant
Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster for example has many members tied to global terrorism
Demographics would indicate the 6 counties are no longer "protestant". #Think32
I’ve never understood why they were and are called loyalists, they are disloyal.
Loyal.... To king and queen....
@@nellmclaughlin3786 they were loyal to a foreign Dutchmen during this war it was the Irish who were loyal
im from derry
Edd Ryan
The name Derry is an anglicisation of the Old Irish name Daire (modern Irish: Doire) meaning "oak grove".
Very good
Me too 🐈🌹
Well done I'll phone the press
No further on today..As long as the drums beat every year the Seige goes on.!!
Wanted: A lift off the planet, willing to pay half of the fuel. get me out of here, my fellow humans are mad.
No that's shite m8 9 county s d.gull Monahan cavin
Zero The Hero I want to come, but then I’m one of the madmen myself alas
"remember when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space
Cause there's bugger-all down here on Earth" -Eric Idle/John Du Prez
Our country is willing to sponsor your trip.....but we require that you take Donald Trump with you.
@@blondwiththewind AND Nancy Pelosi, Andrew Cuomo and Gavin Newsom
No surrender to what? When the Jacobites were going to let them live
no surrender to the pope and his spawn
The fucking Pope back then was on your side. Everyone was, bar Louis XIV.
+Edd Ryan Is Ryan is a Gaelic Irish name?
Your sisters are ants?
Absoloutly nothing compared to abuse of children by R C priests, nuns christain brothers etc.
you still see the very same people in Ireland and Australia....they kept the sectarian flame alive for so many generations they rarely if ever inter married until fifty years ago....and some still wont.
We are of Irish Catholic ancestry.. My son went to the home of a first generation friend, here in the States.. My husband was one of the alter boys molested by his priest.. It turned him away from the Roman church and to the Baptists.. My son's friend told him to say we were still Catholic because his mother would not let an Irish Protestant into her house.. That was in 1980 something..
@@adiabolicalliberty2614 It was rare, and i got my experience first Hand....I'm saying that the groups that DON'T are much th same as they were for years, paranoid sectarian hate mongers, snobs and sadly victims of the cycle of political vendettq.
@@scottleft3672 that’s not true most Australians are a mix of English Scottish and Irish
Are there 8 counties in ulster and britain occupy 6?
+Ian Clark Britain doesn't occupy any of Ireland - it is our country. There are 32 counties and we allowed 26 to be ceded.
its 9 counties in ulster and 6 British
british...we use stirling, the queen is our head of state
Ian Clark when are fenians gona learn ulster is british fact... why do yous think its not... look it fuking up ffs..
It wasn't stolen by England, but the unionists are of Scottish ancestry, Scotland is up to it's knees in these problems as well.
DERRY IRELAND ☘️🇮🇪🙏🏻
I'm confused - I thought the Irish Catholics were almost completely disenfranchised by the end of the Commonwealth. How did a landless group that were prevented from holding any government office and subject to the harsh Penal Laws become a significant political and military force in less than 30 years?
They weren't Penal Laws were much later. King James the 2nd was a catholic and he placed catholic Irish in key positions in Ireland, when the Glorious Revolution began in England the King fled to France then Ireland to raise an Irish army to gain the throne of England and Scotland back.
Got it! Thanks! Didn't realize the situation was so different in England vs Ireland with the RC adherents.
Brian Smith Cool, the people behind the walls were keenly suspicious of Irish Catholics as they had been Royalist during the Civil War period also, when King James place his supporters in power, the Ulster Scots peoples sought defence, it is a very interesting period of history, wilder than the wild west, lol
An ancestor of mine gained land in Tipperary in payment for services in Cromwell's army so I have a direct connection to this rather sinister time.
Brian Smith I wouldnt call it sinister, it was custom of the time, all royalists lost their lands, english or irish. To the victors go the spoils.
When Britain leaves the European union can we not stop the the southern irish from coming in.Keep immigration tight.
TheRab1873 In your fuckin dreams . .
TheRab1873 No you can’t, we won’t let you lol
You could can do nothing on your own we had to send ambulance's up north to try and help your health care workers after the mess your first minister made of containing the Corona virus just to prove she's British well she's not and neither are any of the rest of you just ask boris Johnson.
@@Minime163
Thank you for sending the Dublin & Dundalk fire Brigade to help Belfast during the Belfast blitz during the Second World War.
Build the wall
I grew up in Derry/Londonderry and just returned from a visit there. I find it ironic that Brexit may peacefully achieve what many have fought for and others have resisted - namely a United Ireland.
It's common sense.
No it won't. Because the majority of people there (including not only the vast majority of Protestants but also a large minority of Catholics) want NI to remain an integrated part of the UK.
We quite like our wee country, thank you very much.
Not going to happen 🤣
I read the pope gave king William £3.000.000 to help beat james as james & king of France wanted to pick a pope out of Britain or France .
Good helped our cause ftp
A sad event for Ireland, along with Newtownbutler, the Boyne and Aughrim.
My upmost support to my Irish Catholic brethren from Spain, maybe one day Ulster will wake up and join the rest of Ireland, united under the same flag and Catholic faith, with or without a king.
Sadly, Ulster was essentially robbed from the Irish and settled with convenient protestant settlers from its sister island, converted into a British protestant colony.
Who built Derry's walls
originally built by the Irish Society between 1613 and 1619. intention of protecting the Scottish and English--- Plantation of Ulster by James I.
Istanbul and then Constantinople suck it up things change
You should have used its original name of Derry as it didn't needed to be updated for the illegal ruling class that has dominated Ireland for the past 600 years. A terrorist ruling class I once supported as a British soldier who spent 2 years in Lurgan from August 1973 to August 1975 where I came to understand we had no right to be there as an occupying force, I soon got out of the British Army and came to hate such evil imperialism.
The Plantation of Ulster was not Settlement - The Gaelic Irish own Ulster not Scottish or English planters
tomtomftube the aryans own the entire world. Everyone else needs to die. Similar philosophy to you nazi Irishmen.
Coretta Hattereaux What? Do you know anything about Ireland?
Does the gaelic irish pay the Benefits??
I wonder what wolftone or Henry joy or napper Tandy all prods would of said as you do no it was prods who started Irish republicanism
There WERE no "Gaelic Irish" left in Ulster after Cromwell got done.
That’s twice now that King’s have went up against the Ulster Scots and lost.
It is not a good idea to fight the most militaristic element of your own population.
hail the Mountjoy 😀
+Steven Stewart Yeah No Surrender!!!!!
+Steven Stewart
My ancestors before we told the Crown to f*ck off...
(Mount-Joy Ship)
Mountjoy was Elizabeth I time dumb Loyalist
@@jbloun911 Ulster Protestants went against the British crown in 1798 during the United Irishmen Rebellion
@@RobertK1993 kill em all
I can't help but think of all those who are involved with "The Loyal Orange Order" aka "The Orangemen using quasi-Masonic belief/teaching structure though unlike Freemasonry being a fraternal order that accepts _all_ religions, the Orange Order is a Protestant fraternal order
My mentor was also an Orangemen and as such was able to get hold of some materials allowng for a deeper insight into this fraternal order
Daniel Winter a co founder Orange Order was washed failed Freemason who laughed by other Freemasons when ask for help as was other founder of Orange Order James Wilson both hot asses handed to them by Catholic defenders in 1780s and 90s
@@RobertK1993 Is that what happened at the "Battle of the Diamond" in 1795? 🤔
You seem to hold a favourable view of the Defenders, a vicious organisation steeped in the blood of sectarian violence.
I'll leave others to judge for themselves how they should view people who support sectarian violence.
The Jacobites should’ve won,
Both in here and in England,
The DID win in Scotland but made the mistake of moving on from Edinburgh into England instead of waiting for French munitions and military support,
The only battle that the Jacobites of the 45 lost,
Was the battle of Culloden,
And that had to do with the pissing rain in the middle of a storm,
The fact that the Jacobites moved forward to the British army on wet bog,
And also the fact that the Jacobites didn’t take use of the flanking route throw the little walled section to their right,
Whereas as the British army did
If they managed to use that flank,
Then perhaps they would’ve succeeded,
Afterwards the greatest crimes against the Scottish people we had ever seen took place,
A secret crime that was purposefully covered up and forgotten about
Straight White British Protestant ... you’re clueless ya mug ( I blame the schools ) Williams army contained both RCs and Protestants. His elite Dutch Blue Guard were predominately Dutch aristocratic Catholic’s . He was also partially find by the Pope , and did in fact carry a Papal banner . The bells of St Peters rang out in celebration , when the Pope heard of Williams victory at the Boyne. This battle had little religious significance in anywhere other than Ireland . It was seen more as a victory against Louis
@@Jimmy_Cooper that guy you refer to closeted English heretic is a terrible idiot . He's incapable of understanding pretty much anything.
Most shocking part, the Irish defenders feuded amongst themselves!!!!
Can't help but notice you spelled Londonderry wrong in the video title, thought I'd point it out to you
Timothy Easton Why isn't it the Apprentice Boys of Londonderry as their official title? It is always Apprentice Boys of Derry ABOD.
Timothy Easton They spelt Derry correctly.
What a stupid comment
All the nationalists do is call people bigots and cunts. He was making a joke. The fact that you'll fight so much over a fucking city name shows what a childish place Ireland is, full of petty people on all sides.
spencer words typed by someone who no doubt didnt have to face foreign invasion.
Prevailing culture evident in title.
British.... as in BBC
@@tonidewonderful4187 Irish, as in Derry.
6.47 - I bet that letter addressed to a protestant nobleman was written by the very same protestant nobleman.
Ulster Protestants where guliable to take the Combar letter at face value.
Ironic that they call themselves Loyalists when they betrayed the guy that would have been the rightful king if you actually believe in that crap.
NO SURRENDER GOD BLESS HM KING WILLIAM THE THIRD
55:28 "The Jacobites were finished when they failed to take Derry."
I'm sorry but this is just plain false. After this failed siege, the Jacobites fought at the Boyne, and after the Boyne, they fought at Aughrim, two years after the siege of Derry, so no, the Jacobite cause in Ireland didn't immediately come crashing down after Derry, nor after the Boyne.
Don't really matter now Scotland's going to vote for Independence the union flag is going to be thrown to the scrapheap where it belongs. And more importantly a united Ireland is coming whether you like it or not, yee never had a right to be there in the first place.
Scotland said no and the Nationalists 45 are still living in cuckoo land, rallying for independence when they lost, they don't grasp democracy....
Dave Dante Yeah man you are right thought Scotlanfd was ready to strike out on its own think Salmond did the right thing by resigning but his words "the dream goes on" well maybe in another 50 years Scotland might be ready to ask that question again but you and i will be under green sods lay !
quite right it makes me laugh,on my mothers side its scottish presbiterian and they talk with pride about our connection with the macphersons who were jacobites,but were members of the orange association,my father is irish,but you see these guys wearing kilts and playing the pipes which come from the gaelic culture,mmmmmmmmmmmm
Michael Ahern why don’t y’all just chug off to the south seas with your half of the island since you can’t learn to be tolerant of others on it? It would be warmer anyway.
Michael Ahern how's that work out for ya lol
can any southern irish reader tell me why there is a statue to kikng william of orange in dublin city? not wishing to start a row, i promise, but could you see, say, a statue ofh itler in london?
***** - i think it was in dame street, dublin 2. diddent know it was blown up, though. shows how often i visit the southern capital's centre!!
+Dassoon Fitz Are you sure you're not referring to Nelson's column which was destroyed by the IRA?:
+TurfGuy You said it perfectly, turf guy!! thank you for saying what a lot of people think. sadly, the proletariat will not be reading your letters, or mine or, indeed, any one else's letters. those people are skinheads and semi illilterate. if only they knew what they were talking about.
+Dassoon Fitz Probably because a lot them don't give a shit! Let me ask you a question. What do you think the people in Dublin would like more? Ten pints of Guinness or the statue of William of Orange? You are correct!
@@1948DESMOND that was Nelson's pillar if your talking about o'Connell street
I'd like to know where the Irish were during this. Seems there were Scottish, English and even Dutch but no Irish.
Oh yes, I forgot the French element.
Ulster Irish defending and dying in the city. Catholic Irish part of the Jacobite forces.
they were trying to grow potatoes
The Irish were fighting for the Jacobites
@@jockgnu9026 your people call yourselves loyalists yet betrayed the king and the Irish fought for the king
It isn't south Irish Joseph. It is the Republic of Ireland.
it's not the republic of ireland it's Ireland as one🇮🇪 32 Counties 1 Country🇮🇪💚
Bruce Barker republics suck. I’m an American and it’s never been anything but a tyrannical despot government just like every other kind of government ever invented. Stop cloaking yourselves in republicanism like it equates with freedom.
Republics suck? "Tyrannical despot government"? I think you are going a bit far there. Some government types are clearly less good for people and represent now the progress of human history - i.e. away from Absolute Monarchy. If you mean that it depends on who is running the show, then yeah, I see.
I'm thinking that in Ireland because of their history "republican" is just a byword for "wants united, independent Ireland/nationalist" but I don't know.
@@dairemcbride1246 Sorry, not a fact. An ideal maybe, but not a fact.
@@corettaha7855 Try living under a military dictatorship for a while. I did, and it SUCKS.
Ja môžem povedať na myšlienku vie od povedať vesmír skôr než pre to keď som spadol ne vedome vo spánku do čierne diery tak som musel cestovať v čase kde na moju myšlienku od povedali skôr než. pre to že nikdy by som sa ne prebudil zo stavu bez vedomí v srdci ♥ som nabral energiu od mála pre to že nikdy by som sa ne prebudil zo sna alebo zostal by som vo sne vo vesmíre a na zemi mŕtvy
still governed by our queen fgau
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Why is the pope not mentioned ever in these videos. The pope supported William.
Andy McSherry: Hmmm......so he was a protestant pope was he ?
If you'd studiedy your history you'd find that McSherry is right -the Pope did support William.
No, but Pope Innocent XI was allied to William of Orange (along with the House of Hapsburg) against Louis XIV in the War of the League of Augsburg at the time of this battle and James II was allied to Louis XIV. The Pope knew that if William could overthrow James and become king of the Three Kingdoms, he could then use their resources in their war against France.
@@costakeith9048 why would he want that, thought France was Europe's greatest catholic power at this time ?
@@si4632 Because the Pope wanted France to break their Unholy Alliance with the Ottoman Empire and join the HRE (led by Catholic Austria and the Catholic House of Hapsburg) in a crusade against the Turks in the East. Instead, France used the HRE's wars against the Ottomans as an opportunity to threaten the HRE and take lands off of them in the west, when the HRE refused a French ultimatum, France advanced to the Rhine. The Grand Alliance, also known as the League of Augsburg, was formed to contain French expansion and defend the lands of the HRE, it had the support of the Pope.
France, though a large Catholic country in Europe, was never really part of the political alliances that defined Catholic Europe and was usually at odds with them. France would also fight on the side of the Protestants in the wars of religion a few decades after the War of the Augsburg League. Things have never been as simple as protestant vs. catholic, especially where France is concerned, their national interests and, especially, their rivalry with the House of Hapsburg (the Holy Roman Emperors and leaders of Catholic Europe) almost always took precedence over the Catholic religion. And the Pope would generally ally with the House of Hapsburg (for both historic and local strategic reasons, both having an interest in containing Venice, early on, then in keeping France out of Italy later on) and, thus, France and the Pope would quite often find themselves on opposite sides of a conflict.
There was a much better documentary years ago on UA-cam made more correct by the BBC
The year bill of rights christians only to take the throne
What's "Londonderry"?
Nobody knows. Typo?
@@paulduffy4585 ???
Not sure it was a good idea to do the final shots overlooking the Catholic part of town, then with an Apprentice Boys parade... It doesn't serve the ongoing peace & reconciliation movement; there's a way to tell this history without negatively impacting the present.
The documentary was excellent in other respects though, perhaps even clearer than the Siege Museum, which itself is well done.
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Its abit of a contradiction calling yourself loyalists when you fought for a dutch king against a fairly tolerant british king whom the Irish fought with. But that's ulsterman for you you call yourselves British and yet you've yet to corporate with anything the British government suggests to you.
Oh boy you know it is more complicated than that
No one cares about ye, even us greens have backed away from bible, and its made ye look uglier than ye are. Get some forgiveness into yer lives.
James II a tolerant King ? The south west of England's air was putrid with the smell or rotting corpses hung drawn and quartered even innocent non combatants, children, were killed, the rest sold into slavery in the Caribbean (the Monmouth rebellion) 10% of the present population are descended from these slaves. In part the Caribbean rich accent mixed with African dialects comes from the SW England. James was a backward looking King want to return England to Rome and install the Devine Rights of kings. After William and Mary became the Monarchs we had the the bill of rights and the act of attainment. 1688.
Dream on. William was the legitimate joint monarch appointed for good reason by parliament. England had no wish to have a Catholic succession and the attempt by James to re-establish an absolute monarchy allied to France and the Bishop of Rome.
Nicely put
Yes the letter they just happen to find, Ha, propaganda with a P.
It's Londonderry ... NOT DERRY
What do you care Michael? It really isn't any of your business.
Ireland for the Irish. And it is Derry--not londonderry!
Bruce Barker who cares if it’s called one or the other? Are the Irish such closed-minded bigots that they don’t believe in taking immigrants? Or that people of different races and religions and lifestyles can live as good neighbors and fellow countrymen? No nation on earth has been left without Irish people during the mass migrations out of Ireland in the 1800s, and all have thrived and been embraced by the nations they now reside in. Being so stubbornly and ignorantly biased in favor of your own racial tribe is what has caused the deaths of so many innocents at the hands of the Irish. The ira are heroes because they repented of murdering children and pursuing a genocidal cause and realized they need to learn to live with other people in this world. Up the ra.
It’s Derry all the way, always has been, always will be, fuckin love my town like even though I hate it
Its Londonderry
@@rachelkelly760 aye dead on you sound like a tramp from the bog, lovely when we march around the walls and raise the union flag high above the town, no surrender.
"situation" :D
Yea, when they did it before.......
last great sieges? what about Yorktown lol
rob jones means in the British isles .
Um......Yorktown was in the U.S. The siege of Derry happened in Ireland.
But he’s right. At the time, Yorktown was part of Britain.
Wasn’t Catholicism outlawed or the attempt of it during this time ?
The penal laws is what they were called yes. But under King James II, he was a catholic, so with him on the throne, catholics thought they would be treated better. Once he was gone, and King William on the throne, everything changed.
@@johnking5174 Gotcha . Thanks John