Im newly Orthodox, and have long had a Berry-esque, maybe pathological, love of small things. So I have been very interested in this prayer book. But if its that bad... I guess Ill check out this Jordanville Pocket book. I like my full sized Jordanville when Im at home.
I, too, have a "love-hate" relationship with this book! Unlike every other so-called "pocket" book, this one actually IS, so it ends up going EVERYWHERE with me. It really does need cleaning up, though -- makes the English major in me want to get out my "little red pen"! Forget the quality of the translation from ancient languages (of which I am totally ignorant!) -- I would just like to see the one language more coherent! 😉 That said, if the proofreading got done, we'd lose the lovely misstep of its having printed "kingdom" as "kindom" (15th printing, 2019; The Creed on p. 8) -- it shall have no end, indeed! Blessings to you, brothers and sisters of the "kindom"! 😅🕯🙏☦
It may not be the most refined in construction or print but it receives plenty use by many people. I own various prayer books that are awesome but little red always gets most the use around here. I would like to see the print cleaned up a bit but it truly is a real pocket prayer book that fits in your pocket. I love this little book.
My thirteenth edition is 2004 for some reason unknown to me and it has corrected the spelling of kingdom in the creed on page 8. Page 4 icon is clearer in my thirteenth edition like it's not a copy of a copy so much. Strange that there is a difference in our 13th editions. The front cover is gold-colored writing. I've corrected my copy "all worlds" to "all ages" and "very God" to "true God" in the creed to match what seems better to me and the OCA but I don't want it to cause a schism. 😇
They are up to the 15th printing now, and the copy-of-a-copy "technology" of printing has truly reached a point of the current quality of the book being an offense against God. This is the worst-printed book I have ever encountered; it's weirdly mesmerizing in that each page has a different set of horrible artifacts, skewing, missing parts of letters, etc. Some pages look like 15th generation photocopies; some pages look like they were produced by malfunctioning dot-matrix, inkjet, or laser printers; some pages look like the feed mechanism was messed, others the printhead. Some pages have different characters out of alignment with the rest, some are randomly in smaller or different fonts. It's sort of impressive in its representation of the lowest-quality workmanship in every way I have seen before, and some I have not. A typography class could use it as its example of worst practices. I literally couldn't do as bad a job as this if I was trying to do as slipshod a job as possible. What makes it all the worse is that this degenerate art of bookmaking isn't for say a technical manual for some off-brand direct-from-china throw-away piece of consumer electronics, but for a holy book for the worship of almighty God. Everyone involved with this book - the Antiochian Orthodox Christians, Metropolitan Philip (how could any man of God sign off on such trash?), et al should be deeply ashamed. The sad thing is that any random person could OCR the text, spend a night proof-reading it, print it on their home laser printer, and come up with a far better-looking book (did I mention the binding is 2 staples?) A counterargument is that it only costs around $7, but the Jordanville "Prayer Book and Psalms, Pocket Edition" - another Orthodox prayer book - is $10, has more than twice the number of pages (this book does not include the Psalms), and is printed and bound beautifully.
I picked this up in a free basket at my parish (mine is the 12th printing from 2000), i like it alot very handy
I have this in my front pocket as I type this :)
Im newly Orthodox, and have long had a Berry-esque, maybe pathological, love of small things. So I have been very interested in this prayer book. But if its that bad...
I guess Ill check out this Jordanville Pocket book. I like my full sized Jordanville when Im at home.
Little red is a darling book. I keep one with me all the time.
Now that first one is a rare find! Wow
Yea, I got lucky on that one!
I noticed the military prayer book has the same cross on the cover as the one on the Melkite Publicans Prayer Book. 👀
That cross used to be more common in orthodox artwork in the earlier 20th century.
I was just gifted a copy of the 2019 printing. The cover is black. Maybe a review is in order for the edification of us nerds
Are they different?
I, too, have a "love-hate" relationship with this book! Unlike every other so-called "pocket" book, this one actually IS, so it ends up going EVERYWHERE with me. It really does need cleaning up, though -- makes the English major in me want to get out my "little red pen"! Forget the quality of the translation from ancient languages (of which I am totally ignorant!) -- I would just like to see the one language more coherent! 😉 That said, if the proofreading got done, we'd lose the lovely misstep of its having printed "kingdom" as "kindom" (15th printing, 2019; The Creed on p. 8) -- it shall have no end, indeed! Blessings to you, brothers and sisters of the "kindom"! 😅🕯🙏☦
It may not be the most refined in construction or print but it receives plenty use by many people. I own various prayer books that are awesome but little red always gets most the use around here. I would like to see the print cleaned up a bit but it truly is a real pocket prayer book that fits in your pocket. I love this little book.
My thirteenth edition is 2004 for some reason unknown to me and it has corrected the spelling of kingdom in the creed on page 8. Page 4 icon is clearer in my thirteenth edition like it's not a copy of a copy so much. Strange that there is a difference in our 13th editions. The front cover is gold-colored writing. I've corrected my copy "all worlds" to "all ages" and "very God" to "true God" in the creed to match what seems better to me and the OCA but I don't want it to cause a schism. 😇
They are up to the 15th printing now, and the copy-of-a-copy "technology" of printing has truly reached a point of the current quality of the book being an offense against God.
This is the worst-printed book I have ever encountered; it's weirdly mesmerizing in that each page has a different set of horrible artifacts, skewing, missing parts of letters, etc. Some pages look like 15th generation photocopies; some pages look like they were produced by malfunctioning dot-matrix, inkjet, or laser printers; some pages look like the feed mechanism was messed, others the printhead. Some pages have different characters out of alignment with the rest, some are randomly in smaller or different fonts.
It's sort of impressive in its representation of the lowest-quality workmanship in every way I have seen before, and some I have not. A typography class could use it as its example of worst practices. I literally couldn't do as bad a job as this if I was trying to do as slipshod a job as possible.
What makes it all the worse is that this degenerate art of bookmaking isn't for say a technical manual for some off-brand direct-from-china throw-away piece of consumer electronics, but for a holy book for the worship of almighty God.
Everyone involved with this book - the Antiochian Orthodox Christians, Metropolitan Philip (how could any man of God sign off on such trash?), et al should be deeply ashamed.
The sad thing is that any random person could OCR the text, spend a night proof-reading it, print it on their home laser printer, and come up with a far better-looking book (did I mention the binding is 2 staples?)
A counterargument is that it only costs around $7, but the Jordanville "Prayer Book and Psalms, Pocket Edition" - another Orthodox prayer book - is $10, has more than twice the number of pages (this book does not include the Psalms), and is printed and bound beautifully.
...agreed? Yea, I'm trying to be nice in my videos, but, yea, you hit the nail on the head.
Saint Raphael is Based
The Chairman's Little Red Book is the worst of all Orthodox Prayer Books.