Slayer - The early days of SLAYER (mini-documentary 2004)

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  • Опубліковано 1 бер 2014
  • *Interview with each member about band's early days
    Tom Araya:Bass/Vocals
    Kerry King:Guitars
    Jeff Hanneman:Guitars
    Dave Lombardo:Drums
    *uploaded from an official DVD
    tag:Slayer, Tom Araya, Kerry King, Jeff Hanneman, Dave Lombardo, interview, The ealy days of Slayer, mini-documentary, Augusta civic center, official DVD, live video, music video

КОМЕНТАРІ • 314

  • @Joac1193
    @Joac1193 6 років тому +121

    Dave in the end: "I don't think there will ever be a farewell tour".
    Well, damn...

    • @Whocareswins17
      @Whocareswins17 6 років тому +12

      Get out and see it if you can. May not be the real Slayer, but you're gonna be pissed at yourself if you don't do it. Just my $3.

    • @maddiew1948
      @maddiew1948 6 років тому +6

      I was JUST about to say the same thing. This will be my first and last slayer concert :c at least I get to see them at least once

    • @rafasolisOSDM
      @rafasolisOSDM 6 років тому +5

      Yup me too! I love slayer but I’ve never seen em live, this this will also be my first and only time. I can’t wait

    • @mkel1572
      @mkel1572 3 роки тому +3

      You guys are lucky, i never got to see slayer live :'(

    • @tony-vq4dy
      @tony-vq4dy 2 роки тому +1

      @@mkel1572 same😭

  • @dkyelak
    @dkyelak 8 років тому +40

    Jeff always wanted the blood rain. When the time came he missed the spot- classic Spinal Tap moment lol!

  • @punman5392
    @punman5392 8 років тому +60

    Everyone else in the band: "Yeah for me it's all about the music and the band and the connection with the fans blah blah blah"
    Tom Araya: "Yeah whatever. I don't pay attention"

    • @doubledont4949
      @doubledont4949 6 років тому +2

      Matt Bowen he's real as fuck lol he doesn't try to act like a metal elitist

    • @davidian2.024
      @davidian2.024 4 роки тому +1

      Tom rules lol 😂

    • @bardoface
      @bardoface 3 роки тому +1

      Tom had no taste or sense for the genre apparently but ended up being perfect for Slayer and is one of the best metal singers ever. Similarl to Joey Belladonna, who was a Steve Perry listening dude who wasn’t into metal at all.

  • @94masterofpuppets
    @94masterofpuppets 6 років тому +25

    15:07 Dave: I don't think there will ever be a Slayer farewell tour. Well.... 14 years later except minus you and jeff. Rip jeff

  • @DrJ-hx7wv
    @DrJ-hx7wv 4 роки тому +6

    I'm really happy we have the Japanese subtitles so I know what's going on.

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 6 місяців тому +4

    Lost track of the times i saw them live, but can honestly say they always put on great concerts. Glad they called it on their terms, and let it be, for Jeff.

  • @jacktv6363
    @jacktv6363 6 років тому +15

    “I don’t think there will ever be a slayer farewell tour”

  • @jaybird2931
    @jaybird2931 7 років тому +8

    "They had a particular darkness that had a strange sound. You knew that it was Slayer you couldn't mistake it with any another band." -Dave Lombardo

  • @toddmitchell6362
    @toddmitchell6362 6 років тому +11

    I saw slayer in 85 best hour and a half of my life lol

  • @dkyelak
    @dkyelak 8 років тому +13

    Jeff's idea and he missed the spot when it counted. Priceless- Very Spinal Tap! RIP Jeff.

  • @PureMetalBanzai
    @PureMetalBanzai 9 років тому +75

    I remember being at a Slayer show at the Thomas and Mack Center in Vegas, mmm early 90's, I saw a chick get blasted with an elbow, broken nose, laugh manically and jump right back in the pit . Epic

    • @PureMetalBanzai
      @PureMetalBanzai 8 років тому +2

      Tim Ogrady yeah i went to a show that tour in San Diego. Alice in Chains was pretty much ignored, i was in the parking lot getting hammered when they were on. I regret that now. It was Chains, then Anthrax, Slayer and Megadeth headlined that night. Was awesome

    • @MisterMetalFan666
      @MisterMetalFan666 8 років тому +2

      Tim Ogrady Pretty sure that tour was Clash of the Titian's.

    • @bradleymiller6274
      @bradleymiller6274 8 років тому +1

      Metal Fan Dave Yes, it was the Titans tour. Saw them at Alpine Valley in Wisconsin. Yeah, man!

    • @peteormond3565
      @peteormond3565 8 років тому +2

      +Metal Fan Dave it was the Clash of the Titans, I saw the show in Toronto, Slayer closed the show...unbelievable!

    • @Williameagleblanket
      @Williameagleblanket 7 років тому +2

      Ryoji Kitomi I was at that show too. \m/

  • @basserman
    @basserman 6 років тому +88

    The big 4
    Slayer - Heaviest
    Metallica - Most Melodic
    Megadeth - Most technical
    Anthrax - Most Experimental
    Whether you like one or hate the other three they all are amazing metal bands. (My fav is Slayer)

    • @BAlvn-yr6ej
      @BAlvn-yr6ej 6 років тому +2

      Metallica was really more technical than Megadeth...listen to "the black album" on about 3 hits of acid sometime and you will recognize their incredible depth and talent. No, I don't like all their stuff, but they have immense talent.

    • @Whocareswins17
      @Whocareswins17 6 років тому +6

      B. Alvn I want some of your acid then.

    • @BAlvn-yr6ej
      @BAlvn-yr6ej 6 років тому +2

      me too...its been a long time since i had some. but when i get some, the black album will be the first thing i listen to...after that, "are you experienced" and then "dark side of the moon" followed by "fly by night" by Rush, and maybe (if i can still crawl over to the record player) some early Sabbath....Paranoid is a great acid album. man, do i miss those days (the days i had a regular supply of LSD....... Legalize it.

    • @Whocareswins17
      @Whocareswins17 6 років тому +2

      B. Alvn I'm more into Dog Fashion Disco and Eagles Of Death Metal when I trip. But Rush....yeah, I like Rush. 2112 and Fly By Night. Owwwww!

    • @BAlvn-yr6ej
      @BAlvn-yr6ej 6 років тому

      oh yes, 2112 was a great LP, and Caress of Steel, and Moving Pictures was also excellent...and the first album...i pretty much like all their stuff up to Grace Under Pressure, but after that I lost interest and they got too "artsy" in my opinion...I saw them 3 or 4 times in the 80s...a little late but they did play a fair amount of their earlier catalog in the shows still. They are a great live band. Ever seen them?
      I've never heard of Dog Fashion Disco...what songs or albums would you recommend?

  • @deathailsatan
    @deathailsatan 8 років тому +10

    Yeah, wtf ! Slayer is the only one of the big four who didn't get a behind the music episode. Thats cause they refused to conform and give in to the record company & mass media's demands. Fuck that shit, the man could not keep them down. If you know metal, you know who Slayer is. No matter if you like them or not. \m/

  • @texaslocoman1
    @texaslocoman1 7 років тому +11

    Been Slaytanic for 25 years now

  • @TheLordGoat
    @TheLordGoat 9 років тому +11

    Jeff is reigning now! RIP

    • @claytonschiller8664
      @claytonschiller8664 7 років тому +1

      maybe but look on you tube at famous guitar player in hell scary shit kind of makes a guy wonder

  • @Misfit3755
    @Misfit3755 8 років тому +16

    Damn it i just wish there was a full behind the music of them. Seems like every other bands has one

  • @kencoakley3959
    @kencoakley3959 3 роки тому +3

    The first time I saw Slayer was 12/6/86 ar The Channel in South Boston the last time I saw them was in 1991 at the same venue and saw them countless times in between. And one constant in those yeats that still remains today is the loyalty of the fans. I remember in 1987 I went to see local (Boston) band Wargasm. In between Meliah Rage and Wargasm's set the DJ played "Angel Of Death". When the song started everybody was slam dancing. Mid way through the song I felt a force hit me in my jaw and I hit the ground. A couple of kids pulled me out. I thought it was overzealous fans hitting me accidentally. It turns out that I was sucker punched by a bouncer. All the slamdancers started to charge against the bouncers because of what happened to me.
    I haven't seen Slayer live in 30 years and I regret that there was a Slayer farewell tour and that I didn't go to pay my final respects, to show some gratitude for all the great music over the years.

  • @jason-ian-Van-Sloten
    @jason-ian-Van-Sloten 6 років тому +4

    15:33??
    That time came a while back dude.
    Slayer without Jeff and Dave?
    Time to close up shop!!

  • @superste533
    @superste533 8 років тому +3

    saw them last night and didn't leave the mosh pit all night, im brusied and battered and had a bloody nose all night too but I'd do it all again in a heartbeat. absolutely fucking amazing band and awesome show

  • @R0cknrbyn
    @R0cknrbyn 6 років тому +5

    Anyone else here after they announced their farewell tour?

  • @xxzackxx666
    @xxzackxx666 7 років тому +3

    i was at that show in maine! i was 11 years old and got to witness slayer rain blood

  • @DharynSimmerX
    @DharynSimmerX 6 років тому +6

    Awe Hanneman is such a lovely guy, can't wait to die just to join him and the gone great musician on the other side.

  • @steveminshew6906
    @steveminshew6906 Рік тому +3

    Great documentary of one of the greatest Metal bands of all time....nice work.

  • @sckl8585
    @sckl8585 5 років тому +26

    Slayer's music is like beer, it's an acquired taste..

    • @Gurra88
      @Gurra88 Рік тому +4

      I'm drinking beer right now watching this

  • @kozmo617
    @kozmo617 8 років тому +2

    Saw them in Portland OR in 2010. One of the greatest shows I've ever been to.

  • @rubinliggin1588
    @rubinliggin1588 5 років тому +5

    “I don’t think there will be a slayer farewell tour”- well looks like there one know and it will be my first and last time seeing them

  • @mrawesome2742
    @mrawesome2742 3 роки тому +2

    My very first concert was SLAYER, biohazard and Machine Head. I’ll never forget it.

  • @jayvids4u
    @jayvids4u 9 років тому +5

    R.I.P JEFF

  • @LythranaNirinath
    @LythranaNirinath 8 років тому

    I'll never forget the first time I saw them live. It was like living in a dream. And there was no voice left after the show was over! Slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @nickfuller20
    @nickfuller20 3 роки тому

    That Read between the lies riff at the beginning is killer!! Hopefully there is a Farewell tour part 2 coming soon!!

  • @marklawless8829
    @marklawless8829 5 років тому +2

    Show no mercy and Hell Awaits my favourite ever.

  • @ColoRADbro420
    @ColoRADbro420 8 років тому +22

    i love slayer but im more of a stay at home and jam headphones fan

    • @caza_arte9266
      @caza_arte9266 3 роки тому +2

      In this days you are an example for people🤘

    • @ColoRADbro420
      @ColoRADbro420 3 роки тому +1

      @@caza_arte9266 😂 very true!

  • @ShanOakley
    @ShanOakley 7 років тому

    That was fun to watch.

  • @Edgar193
    @Edgar193 9 років тому +3

    RIP Jeff legend!!!

  • @rgluna70
    @rgluna70 5 років тому

    Jeff and Dave gave SLAYER the edge they needed RIP JEFF

  • @Scotty_Russell_Music
    @Scotty_Russell_Music 9 років тому +15

    I don'[t know why i even bother watching Slayer any more,the way the treated Dave is an absolute fucking disgrace.

  • @azdrummer1
    @azdrummer1 8 років тому +14

    RIP Hannemann

  • @warriorv9359
    @warriorv9359 7 років тому

    never really too much about slayer, but i got a lot respect for em, they been around for long time and therye still kicking ass so theyre u go

  • @dannymontoya1235
    @dannymontoya1235 6 років тому +1

    86' Olympic Auditorium 88' Hollywood Paladium 94' Shrine ExpoCenter? 09' West Texas Amphitheater. Fucking Slayer!!

  • @tylerpercell2873
    @tylerpercell2873 6 років тому +2

    “I don’t think there will ever be a slayer farewell tour” if only that were true dave

  • @P.h.i.l.65
    @P.h.i.l.65 2 місяці тому

    R.I.P.Jeff my Idol forever 🎸🤘🎸

  • @MarkBoyd
    @MarkBoyd 7 років тому +37

    I love Slayer. I believe in God...and I love Slayer. They are just the extreme edge. Viva Slayer.

    • @chirag7079
      @chirag7079 4 роки тому +4

      I can say the same

    • @alfonspekala
      @alfonspekala 2 роки тому

      LoL so you haven’t heard about gorgoroth yeah ?

    • @Yourmothershouse34
      @Yourmothershouse34 2 роки тому

      " I believe in god" dude who gives a flying fuck

    • @dextervortexsungte5348
      @dextervortexsungte5348 Рік тому +1

      @@alfonspekala gorgoroth are lame fart

    • @nachomagallanico
      @nachomagallanico Рік тому +3

      I'm an atheist, I don't believe in god, neither in satan, but I love slayer. Amazing how the love for a band can gather such a diverse crowd

  • @amos29455
    @amos29455 6 років тому +4

    15:07 "I don't think there'll ever be a Slayer Farewell tour"
    well..... :(

  • @svenred6eard757
    @svenred6eard757 2 роки тому

    Cool to hear and see Hamneman

  • @lanuiensanen9614
    @lanuiensanen9614 6 років тому

    Okay,i read the whole comments.Slayer \\M// RIP Jeff.!

  • @11DNA11
    @11DNA11 7 років тому +6

    Funny thing about Jeff saying that he's gonna have a hardon when the blood rains down :D
    He missed his mark on that :D

  • @13spiders
    @13spiders 6 років тому

    Watching in 2018. Just bought tickets to the Slayer farewell show. Ironic.

  • @tz88ss32vb
    @tz88ss32vb 9 років тому +4

    Jeff Hanneman-RIP!!!!! Only Jeff Hanneman Slayer is real...

  • @ionutghimpu1924
    @ionutghimpu1924 4 роки тому +1

    SLAYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!

  • @zuggascampy8175
    @zuggascampy8175 8 років тому

    I've seen Slayer about 8 times. I saw them at the War at the Warfield too. I've cracked the same 2 ribs twice at their show, broke my nose, got my tooth knocked out, broke my foot, found a tooth in my head at the end of a show, and busted my cheekbone allllll in the pit. Would still go see them again.

    • @jamesp1998
      @jamesp1998 7 років тому

      That's metal as fuck!

    • @SecretWeapon62578
      @SecretWeapon62578 7 років тому

      Zugga Scampy Wait... found a tooth IN your head? What???

  • @collo121
    @collo121 8 років тому

    seen Slayer like 10 times never once been bloody! Going to see them in the St Paul next week!
    RIP Jeff

    • @mistertitanic
      @mistertitanic 8 років тому +1

      I was at that same show too!

    • @SallyStangler
      @SallyStangler 7 років тому +1

      I lost my shoe and I wasn't even aware that I had a gash in my leg. Best day ever

  • @nickcapitano9588
    @nickcapitano9588 8 років тому

    heaviest riffs an solos ever never gets boring love slayer never seen a bad show by them

  • @sabertoothrobot
    @sabertoothrobot 8 років тому +3

    Slayer pit is no joke. Saw them at Club Eastbrook in Grand Rapids, Michigan in '94, brutal fists and elbows. Floor was slippery as fuck and someone crowd surfing kicked me in the face with a filthy combat boot. My ears rang for two solid weeks, hearing damage but totally worth it.

  • @claytonjohns6760
    @claytonjohns6760 9 років тому +2

    Sure miss ya Jeff! Fucking Love Slayer!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Bliss-bd9zp
    @Bliss-bd9zp 2 роки тому

    I was 14 in 1984 when I went to see SLAYER. I had spent hours bleaching upside down crosses allover my Jordache jeans to wear to the concert. Those jeans made me famous at the show, but quite infamous when I wore them to school. Lol

  • @lastwordindicator
    @lastwordindicator 6 років тому

    Just the other day I came across my old biker leather with the denim vest covered in all of the thrash metal patches, chains and iron crosses from back in the day. Among all the Metallica, S.O.D. and D.R.I. patches, the one that's at the top just across the back of the shoulders is of'course SLAYER.

  • @sikostadis2831
    @sikostadis2831 6 років тому

    Funny at 15:09, Dave said, “I don’t think there will ever be a slayer farewell tour” I’ll be in the pit for that show, can’t fuckin wait 🤘🤘🤘go out with a bang guys

  • @jefferyfromsouthernmaine2482
    @jefferyfromsouthernmaine2482 3 роки тому

    @0:02 highway sign that says North Maine.. my home state that is very cool

  • @MrSmith-ke1hb
    @MrSmith-ke1hb 6 років тому +4

    Love SLAYER but im stuck in reign in blood thru divine, couple songs after but for most part cant listen to new stuff, dunno why. Almost like metallica after black album, just without slayer turning wuss to explain it

  • @jeffandhoudini9460
    @jeffandhoudini9460 9 місяців тому

    July 6 2006 Seattle 😎 🍻

  • @DNME87
    @DNME87 9 років тому +7

    BEST BAND EVER!

  • @heineken6120
    @heineken6120 10 років тому

    RIP my boy!!!!!

    • @heineken6120
      @heineken6120 9 років тому

      forever reign the king of slayer.

  • @MannyHubbardMusic
    @MannyHubbardMusic 6 років тому

    Its interesting 15:08 when Dave Lombardo says there will never be a farewell tour yet here they are 2018 on their final tour

  • @pur3xcheesey196
    @pur3xcheesey196 6 років тому

    "I don't think there will ever be a slayer Farwell tour"..... 2018 and it's here.. sigh..

  • @xtraflo
    @xtraflo 6 років тому +2

    I know it sucks for Slayer's success - but it's cool that they never had any Radio Play...They've never been sell-outs.

    • @franciscoprado5236
      @franciscoprado5236 5 років тому

      Curiously, I once listened to a Slayer song on the radio, here in Argentina.

  • @davidleimbach2153
    @davidleimbach2153 9 років тому +29

    minor threat was from DC... not SoCal...

    • @shakey27
      @shakey27 9 років тому +14

      and DRI was from Texas

    • @jote212
      @jote212 6 років тому +1

      David Leimbach they prob toured in Cali waay more than dc.

    • @kevinmitchell4778
      @kevinmitchell4778 6 років тому +1

      thnk u, dri is from texas and bay area

  • @Bobaman5400
    @Bobaman5400 9 років тому +1

    RIP Jeff

  • @WillGorillion
    @WillGorillion День тому

    RIP Jeff Hanneman
    ⚡️⚡️
    \o

  • @mistertitanic
    @mistertitanic 8 років тому +1

    I wish they told the story about how Tom ended up playing bass. I think it's fucking awesome when the vocalist is also the bassist.

    • @christianolivera3286
      @christianolivera3286 7 років тому +2

      correct me if im wrong but i think tom played bass in other bands n then joined slayer as the vocalist/bassist

    • @david_handlebar
      @david_handlebar 7 років тому

      lookup Primus

  • @Redflowers9
    @Redflowers9 9 років тому +8

    "Sorry for not thinking you were real" lol

  • @bjbeardse
    @bjbeardse 6 років тому

    I still remember that day. September 11, 2001. I had been waiting for it since "God Hates Us All" was to be released... I guess he really did that day!

  • @jaimegutierrez9150
    @jaimegutierrez9150 6 років тому

    The thing about me and these nice men was I only got ta' see em just once or twice: So blessed be ya' Jeeff

  • @raiospartaonick
    @raiospartaonick 6 років тому

    The part where Dave says, I think there will never be a farewell tour! It's happening :(

  • @naveedhashmimusic
    @naveedhashmimusic 6 років тому

    Rest in peace Jeff

  • @agsol4073
    @agsol4073 7 років тому

    Slayer!!

  • @68weav
    @68weav 7 років тому +1

    "Altar Of Sacrafice/Jesus Saves" classic Slayer shit. Gets me the fuck going!

  • @L-Slayer
    @L-Slayer 6 років тому

    slayer melhor banda do universo disparado depois vem o resto

  • @TheMSLane073
    @TheMSLane073 6 років тому

    got my nose busted twice both at slayer in Detroit.

  • @rainelrodriguezcuadrado1370
    @rainelrodriguezcuadrado1370 2 роки тому

    Grandes entre los grandes enseno a muchos lo gue es el verdadero metal gigantes e irrepetibles ba da de verdadero culto

  • @RexanaSmith
    @RexanaSmith 6 років тому

    R.I.P Jeff

  • @Simon53188
    @Simon53188 7 років тому

    does anyone know where the footage off fight till death comes from at 11:11? its looks like the same footage from the same show, but i cant find it anywhere.

  • @mattdad8429
    @mattdad8429 4 місяці тому

    1:58 I don't know why but that mental image of Kerry King just standing in his front yard, and the way Dave said it cracked me up. Like Dave Lombardo almost caught Kerry King watering his moms flowerbed or something. Like "Get outta here, Dave, I'm doing metal shit." Just all curt and defensive like Kerry gets. "Why you driving by my house, you gay or something? You wanna be my boyfriend?" Dave's like "god damn". lol I dunno. I dunno where I'm going with this.

  • @TheKorfish
    @TheKorfish 8 років тому +4

    lol omg kerry talking about jeff with a shaved head oh the irony.

  • @venividivici80
    @venividivici80 9 років тому

    Bow to the Slayer

  • @joeprobst7662
    @joeprobst7662 7 років тому

    I saw them once here in Pgh it was clash of the titans like 91 I think.i was 14, my gram an mum an younger brother an sister had to come too.my gram said she liked slayer the best11

  • @BTCLP
    @BTCLP 7 місяців тому

    SLAYERRRRRRR

  • @michaelfeld8366
    @michaelfeld8366 6 років тому

    Geniuses

  • @jesseanderson5869
    @jesseanderson5869 7 років тому

    Best Slayer Albums: Show no Mercy, Hell Awaits, Rein in Blood, Seasons in the Abyss, Undisputed Attitude. The rest...

  • @higler.
    @higler. 8 років тому +9

    1:49 LMAO is that a classy way of saying you delivered pizzas for Pizza Hut?

    • @flashcloud666
      @flashcloud666 8 років тому

      All pizza is Pizza hut?

    • @higler.
      @higler. 8 років тому +1

      "Delivery Pizza Company" is a very bizzare/odd way of saying you deliver pizzas. That's all.

    • @Mindrex327
      @Mindrex327 7 років тому

      Maybe it is!

  • @MichaelSkelton
    @MichaelSkelton Рік тому

    Wonder if Jeff and Tom flipped a coin to see which one would play on the side Kerry wore his spike armband.

  • @duanedrummond2685
    @duanedrummond2685 6 років тому

    Can't wait for their 15 year Vegas run...

  • @romusromulus
    @romusromulus 3 місяці тому

    in Istanbul 98 one of the front pit kid's jaw fricking dislocated

  • @keenelindsay2504
    @keenelindsay2504 5 років тому

    I really hope Slayer plans on throwing the best show they ever done this year in Mansfield Mass I hope they play like a lot of their kickass older music fuck yeah freak out in the mosh pit and I hope Slayer freaks the fuck out on stage yeah yeeeaaaaaaah🤘

  • @dannyoi7173
    @dannyoi7173 5 років тому

    🤘-I-SLaYER-I-🤘

  • @MrRoman-lo6ih
    @MrRoman-lo6ih 6 років тому +4

    15:08 wrong Dave :(

  • @SonyIsSheogorath
    @SonyIsSheogorath 8 років тому

    tomorrow is fucking international SLAYER-DAY fuckers, lets blast fucking SLAYER

  • @TY-kc3st
    @TY-kc3st Рік тому

    The early days would be early 80s (they formed in 1981). First three albums were mind-blowingly heavy and intense: Show No Mercy, Hell Awaits, Reign in Blood. I know they did several after that but for me those first there are their best, and also among the best dozen metal/thrash albums of all time.

    • @acdcking1234
      @acdcking1234 10 місяців тому +1

      Favorite slayer album is show no mercy 🤘

    • @TY-kc3st
      @TY-kc3st 2 місяці тому

      "Die by the sword!"

  • @robrockit3662
    @robrockit3662 6 років тому

    First slayer song I heard angel of death that was yeons ago like let see 30 years ago I was 21 now 51 !!yeah I'd want to retire too!SLAYER FUCKING RULES!!!!

  • @robgoren8628
    @robgoren8628 6 років тому +4

    4:44
    You're welcome.

  • @SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG
    @SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG 6 років тому

    Come on Kerry Minor Threat was DC HxC and you should know this. Big difference between East Coast and LA HxC sound in this time period.