Inside the Locomotive Works
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2020
- In this video we take a tour around the Ribble Steam Railway at Preston and go inside the Locomotive works. Inside the Locomotive works we see a variety of Preserved Heritage steam and diesel locomotives. we look at two classic Diesel Shunters and also some old Saddle tank steam locomotives. We also take a look at some vintage railway carriages, rolling stock. Mark I compartment stock. This is really one for the railway fans as we take a look behind the scenes of a preserved heritage railway. We also see some of the classic Industrial locomotives that they have at this heritage railway
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On the old original Class 08's, prior to starting, the fuel was hand pumped from a holding tank into what was called the "Header Tank" (which is what that upper gauge you were looking at was reading.) Throughout your shift you always had to keep yourself aware of the fuel level in the header tank. B.R. instructions were that you must not allow it to drop below 20 gallons (or you'd start sucking all kinds of crap into the engine from the bottom of the tank) so several manic episodes of pumping would ensue throughout the day. Believe it or not, it was bloody hard work to pump any decent amount up there. It was absolutely heaven when they started putting electric pumps on them but that wasn't until the late 70's/early 80's. Furthermore, those engines always shunted nose first (for safety reasons.) The dual control was therefore necessary because sidings were rarely straight and, depending on which way the track curved dictacted which side you would drive from. The B.R. rule book stated that if you lost sight of the Shunter then you must stop immediately - again for safety reasons - so you would often dash from one side of the cab to the other to keep him in sight. You had about 5 seconds to dash across before the Deadman's pedal activated and dumped the brake. However, the Deadman's was more often than not 'pegged' with a brake stick when shunting in a yard in order to defeat this problem (but I didn't tell you that, did I?)
I was on these at March Down Yard, Whitemoor Yards, Ely on rare occasions, trips from March to Wisbech, once took one from March to Kings Lynn, and another from March to Kings Lynn top speed 15mph, one driver was very skilled at fly shunting at Wisbech...
That sounds about right for BR. I remember my dad telling me about how when he worked on electric unit maintenance down south they used to just paddle the collector shoes to isolate the unit from the live rail as the local isolator switch was right down the yard and they couldn't be asked to walk right down there to isolate it, and how sometimes they also used to stick a board over a live rail with it live and sit on it while they ate their lunch! How about that?! That was way back long before the HSE. I think they'd have fits if they saw some of the things they did.
Good news for you: all NS diesel shunters of the '08' type were built at the Preston factory and the 600s (equipped with a train brake as opposed to the earlier 500s) were fitted wit EEC London diesel motors. This ex NS 663 was delivered at the end of 1956. The gauges fixture you mentioned is as far as I see original. 663 was one of the locomotives that had their depot at the Rotterdam harbour (Feijenoord) and would thus have had additional whasp stripes to the green livery at some point. It was painted in the 'Dutch' yellow-grey livery in the 70s. Taken out of service in 1997, but reinstated for some local shunting for a short while in 2003. Sold to the Ribble Steam Railway in 2005.
Brilliant thanks for the info 👍
Have been driving these loco's back in the 90's (when I just started my career at the Dutch Railways). Very easy to drive and pretty strong loco's. Most used equipment was a hammer. The maximum speed was 30 km/h but the needle of the speedometer wasn't very accurate, it is swinging around. When it hit the 32 km/h (or 15 mph) it triggered an overspeedrelais, the relais was also equipped with a, very noisy and irritating, whistle to tell your speed was to high (wel thought about it as you were most of the time with your head outside the loco watching the shunting). So everybody slammed those whistles with a hammer to try to stop it. When it went into the workshop, they always replaced the whistle (which we hit again)...
The pumping you mentioned wasn't pumping fuel from one tank into another. It was meant to pump lubricant into the engine for an easier start (and safe the batteries and motor). As it was extra work, most times we just didn't do it (only when there was a chef watching you we did it) . Just hit the engine-start and wait; worked fine most times (the boys in the workshop didn't like it when we did it that way, off course).
In 2018 4 of these dutch 08s were rebought by a dutch railway company and transported back to Holland, Railway Support Services had the job of hauling them from various locations in the uk back to Holland.
I've been there to Rotterdam docks, there must be absolutely MILES of sidings there given the size of that port.
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 When the Port of Rotterdam was growing rapidly from the 70s on, freight traffic by rail was in the decline yet and the 'new' and biggest parts of the port have relatively few rail connections. The older port however did have, with beautiful sidings through the city, but they are all long gone.
interesting video, brings back a lot of memories , I worked at north road loco works at Darlington in its day it employed 4000 people on a site that covered 27 acres, and later as a volunteer on the north Yorks railway, happy days thank you.
Thank you Michael
This reminds me of our travels when we heard that 9F 92212 now named "Black Prince" was in our vicinity. The museum and platform staff wouldn't even entertain Carl (my dear husband and ex-fireman) to even look at it, even though he'd fired it many times in the 1960's. It was memorable to him because it was the only steam engine he got stuck with on Swan Village Bank because the tubes were leaking and killing the fire in the fire box and forced them to stop for a "blow up" on a heavy freight train in the middle of the night....long story. Only saying here because he was suffering from cancer at the time and I breached the fences and approached the workmen who immediately let us into the workshop, pushed him up onto the footplate and gave him a piece of the boiler they were repairing as a memento. Fair play to them at Sheringham, Norfolk. LOVE your videos, Martin.
I so admire the skills the older guys have.
Thankyou for such a lovely video. Certainly some great people working there. Made me homesick.
THANK YOU MARTIN AND FRIENDS FOR A GREAT VIDEOS I AM 74 AND CANT GET ABOUT MUCH AND LOOKING AT THEM ON MY PC MAKES MY DAY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK CLIFF
"Nothing there at the minute"
so Mancunian, great video again Martin
My father used to be a reservation manager at Manchester piccadilly station and when we went on holiday he used to reserve several compartments for the whole family I remember me and my sister sharing one all the way from Manchester to the south coast on the overnight Trains it was fantastic.
Excellent stuff. Great to see Gordon in one of your videos again Martin.
That was brilliant! Definitely one to get the old anoraks zipped up for! You 3 were like kids in a sweet shop there. Great to see the dedication those guys put in to restore these old engines..
My late uncle Harry used to volunteer in the 1970s/80s, for the Mid-Hants Preserved Railway (the Watercress line) he worked on restoration of the old steam engines & eventually became a fully qualified engine driver.
I remember those corridor & compartment carriages on the Portsmouth to London trains, they were still in use until around 1990.
Martin, Gordin and Martin, many thanks. That was sheer bliss! Loved the Class 11/08 'Gronk' but so sad to see that front end of a Class 20! (My fave loco of all.) Brilliant video.
My elder brother worked on the railways all his working life started work as a young lad in the 50s as a shunter in Crewe & climbed the ladder to become station master & elevated to No;1 Rail person with his picture in his gold braided iniform on every poster up & down the country.
Brilliant John 👌
Wow that is so awesome, thank you for sharing that.
I can add he was named after our grandad who was an LNWR top link engine driver on the west coast main line passenger trains, including a royal train, all his working life & started work at the age of 10yrs pre 1900 & to give you some idea of the date our dad was born in 1899 him being a third son of six & he started work at the age of 10yrs too & was the only son not to work for the railway.
@@johnvickers5750 Wow that is some fantastic history, you must be very proud of them, that's awesome. My Grandfather was born in 1900 and was a tenant farmer in Hereford. During WW2 he had quite a few land army girls helping him on his farm, I know this isn't train related but their was a German (we think) plane that came down on his farmland but unfortunately no survivors but my grandfather collected as many pieces of the bodies that he could and was told to bury them in a big pit on his farm. He received a letter and a silver plated fruit bowl from the war office as a thank you, we still have both. x
Now that’s something I’d love to do for a job. Not old enough to have seen the steam engines in service, so am glad that these folks are preserving these pieces of history for us to see.
Same here not old enough to have seen steam
Thanks Martin. Even if someone doesn't know anything about locomotives (and I don't - although I well remember those carriages) your sheer enthusiasm bring a smile to the face.
I remember those old Mk1 carriages too and I sometimes used to travel in the guard's area. They used to let you do that sometimes and also some young mums used to take their buggies in there too.
That was fantastic. Whilst I live diesel trains my heart beats with the steam, I would love to go on the Tornado. You can’t go wrong showing trains I just love them. Thanks so much for taking me along.
I've visited the North York Moors Railway engine shed at Grosmont and the coach works at Pickering while working and the activities are similar to this.
I walked into the main engine shed to see 4 steam engines dismantled and one getting it's main wheel being refitted by four blokes, two with a chain hoist and two blokes using sledge hammers to fit it on the axle. It's really like stepping back in time.
Yet another great upload, thank you Sir.
Quite a few of those magnificent machines were still running when I was a young kid.
I'm born in 1959.
Great video Martin , love trains . My uncle worked 40 years on trains as a conductor .He start working on Steam Locomotives , them diesel . Also my house back home is facing the rail tracks , so all my life i was a Trainspotter. Thumbs up
Can't believe you managed to walk round the workshop looking at your camera without tripping over something 😁
Am a pro 👍
I couldn't help but notice the reverence you seemed to feel about being invited up into the cab of the diesel locomotive. Reminds me of some time spent volunteering at a local railroad museum. The 2156 is a Northern Pacific, pacific type steam engine that was once on a static display at a local zoo. I grew up going to the zoo and I always stopped by the 2156 to ring the bell and "marvel at this massive piece of machinery", Later when I started working at the museum, I was given the task of freeing up the rusted shut ashpan door inside the fire box. It was like entering a holy shrine to go inside the object of so many visits to the zoo over so many years of my life.
I trained on as a brakeman when we had another steam locomotive running. The 328 was another Northern Pacific line ten wheeler. During hot summer days the firemen would need a break and they would invite brakemen to try their hand at firing the locomotive. The most fun I ever had working my ass off in my whole life!
You should consider volunteering at a local rail museum.
Yes it was reverence and a trip back to being 15 yrs old and the excitement. Love it on the footplate
I remember as a kid seeing rail cars with those diagonal stripes. Kool to know what they were for.
Thanks Ray
Thanks for that Martin, the first part brought back a few memories as my dad was a fitter/turner for BR back in the 50's, 60's and into the 1970's. Most of his working life was at the Old Trafford yard (at the back of United's ground) but he also worked at Cornbrook and finished off his time on the railway at Longsight when the Old Trafford and Cornbrook yards were closed down. I use to have tones of old Railway stuff, badges, whistles, torches, stuff like that...all lost with the passage of time.
When the first diesel train was approaching Manchester full of dignitaries, it broke down. with TV and Press waiting for the train to turn up, the police came to our house to pick my dad up and bring him out to the track to help get it running again.....happy days!
Anyway, thanks for another great video.
It doesn't matter that I don't have a huge interest in trains etc because you make it interesting for most people Martin. I can wonder at the skeletons of locomotives rotting in the engine graveyard and doubly wonder where on earth you would start to restore one ...I'm in awe of anyone who can take that kind of project on. Maybe a little has rubbed off on me as my Grandad on my Father's side and his father too worked at Gorton Tank. Thanks Martin .
Thanks Anne, yes I wouldnt know where to start restoring that Tank engine
Highly interesting, more goes on in restoration than we imagined.
It certainly does Roy
*sees notification for new Martin episode. Clicks*
Cheers Mr Pickles
What a great place
Brilliant, I need to get myself up there, used to be involved with the great central railway restoration at Loughborough until we moved, cheers Martin.. Spent some great times train spotting as a kid, spoilt by finding out what girls have that we don’t, lol old enough now to re appreciate railways and all it has to offer
Excellent Martin. Great Memories. I remember the corridor carraiges too. Great times
Cheers Matthew
What a lovely bunch of people on this fantastic line. It certainly looks worth a trip, and what a fabulous job the team have made on those engines and carriages.
8:12 Martin, if you count me as young, I help to build and restore waggons, carriages, locomotives etc. on my local railway. It's certainly a very satisfying and enjoyable experience to be able to volunteer on. GWR
Martin..brilliant..well done chap..
Loved this. Total respect for the folks who bring these relics back to life, a real labor of love. Every time I see a steam engine passing through York it brings a tear to my eye!
Yes amazing stuff that people take these projects on
Great video, brought back memories, especially travelling and train spotting in mk1 carriages.
Hi Martin I was an occupational. Nurse for the railway for over ten years and really loved going out watching drivers. On the footplate ! , track workers and signal personal , I really loved my time going out with the men, and Trafford park looking at the cranes amazing fun but a serious job !plus Rochdale where they made the rails !
That sounds awesome !
Very amazing video well done and keep up the great work mate and I love listening to your VIDEO'S as I am FULLY BLIND
What a great video, I love trains 😍 When I was a kid I used to stay with my grandparents in Prestatyn during the school holidays we used to get one of those corridor stock trains to Rhyl and Llandudno. Beautiful 😍
Fantastic, brought back some memories again from the 80's, and thanks Gordon and Martin for your extensive knowledge.
Another fantastic video Martin. Thanks for uploading.
that was fantastic martin and the the team as well helping you thank you so much for all the interesting info about the stock they have there all the best from trev and chris down south x
Nice to see the Mk1 coach. Network South East still used to run the occasional one behind a Class 38 from Oxford to Marylebone as late as the early 90s, when I lived down there.
OMG. I did enjoy that Martin. Thanks so much to you all for making this video.
That was soooo good. You make my day with these videos. Thank you
I have no interest in trains but still found this video great. Thank you Martin.
Thanks very much Rob
Hi Martin, you bring so many golden memories back to me when you do the train video's, my Step-Dad used to volunteer restoring the steam loco's at Didcot and I have been up on a few footplates in my time when I was around 14-15 lol. then later on (I'm 51 now) when I was around 17-18 I moved to Poole Dorset and used to hang out with my friend Malcolm in the freight section at Hamworthy Freight, I use to be out watching Malcolm shunt things around with his mates as freight would be going in or out. I absolutely loved those old days and I used to love riding in those old class 1 carriages, sliding the window down by the loo's where the carriages joined and bunging my head out the window, my favourite thing was looking out the window on the outside line side (so no other track was there0 and watching the steam engines as they rounded a bend under full head of steam. Omg I loved this video so much, thank you so much for taking us round. xx 🙏🏻🙏🏻💖
Thanks Martin, Martin, and Gordon. Well done.
Another classic video. Love Railways :)
I enjoyed that tour!
Brilliant. We took our 4 year old grandson there last week. Found the Agecroft 2 steam engine from the colliery. Had a wander around the workshop. Thanks again for a great video.
Great video Martin, Love old steam keep them coming.
Been waiting all day for this.
Cheers Jason
Marvelous Martin, Love following the history of old
Thanks Frank
Great vlog guys many thanks.
Excellent video, many thanks.
Interesting as always 👍
Martin you are doing a great job with these videos, so many will be learning heaps and bringing memories back for hundreds off us, thank you 😊 so much, like you I too love the big diesels, Awesome 😎😎👍🇳🇿🌈😊
Martin, long time viewer here, i don't usually comment on youtube but i felt i would say something, i like your train videos, i like your exploring videos, i like when you've been on the canal boat or your drone videos, i like all your videos. I think it's good you mix it up, never been a video about a topic you've done that i didn't like.. and i've seen every single one of your videos. Go with your passion, do the videos you want to make. Even if it's about trains or paint i'm sure you'll make it interesting and insightful. Thanks for sharing your passion.
Thanks Martin for another fantastic vlog, this one's the best. All the best, Stevie
As always great video Martin
Thank you for such an interesting video. And thank you to the lads at the railway for giving you and us a tour.
brilliant vid Martin the enthusiasm shines thru with all taking part,bearing in mind alot of the people keeping these railways aiive volunteer.. keep up the good work..
Thanks Chris. I just hope the skills are being passed down
Always a pleasure Martin watching your videos very entertaining and I've learnt alot just watching them ....keep them coming thankyou mate :)
Thanks Martin
I was very lucky to have had a shot of steam loco 62005 and a class 37 on the Mallaig line. I was the same driver for both locos. No camera phones in 1987. To say i was a kid in a sweet shop. The 37 was my favourite as i got to stop and start at most stations. Excellent video.
That would have been great. Very envious Alan
@@MartinZero You now have a fantastic channel with content that is fascinating. A bygone age that is too quickly being forgotten. In Orkney we have plenty history mostly decades earlier. Plenty WW2 stuff to see. Did you know the first civilian killed in WW2 was at the BRIDGE OF WAITHE. Germans tried to blow the bridge. There 30% more bombs dropped in Orkney than the blitz in London. The bomb squad are up here a few times a year to deal with various items found on land or sea.
I recall touring Crewe works in 1959; lots of heavy engineering with steam locos being repaired/built. I remember the frame cutter-wow!
I went on an open day there about 2004 ?
Highly interesting vlog mate. Keep them coming mate.
Ooh ooh very nice thank you so much for sharing this with us 👏👏❤️😁xx
Martin I’m just watching your video I’ve been trying to watch this video for days and I finally got to watch it I am watching you going on in this works it’s like when you’re talking to somebody about the thing in question and like you’re asking to look at this what we’re looking at next and what we’re looking at next and it’s like it being a kid you can’t stop asking questions it’s just beautiful viewing in mate Carry on the good work it’s just so great to see you
Martin, I can't stop watching your videos. I've learned a lot with them. Your content is awesome, thank you for sharing all this. Congratulations and keep up the good work 👍
Great to see the restoration work that's going on. It's always sad to see beautiful old engines and carriages rusting away.
Great video yet again 👍
Fascinating stuff. Good to see the Nodrog roaming free in it's natural environment.
A brilliant insight into the past years of steam & early diesel electric engines. I remember trying to keep a compartment to myself by pulling the blinds down, so I could stretch out flat while traveling from London to Glasgow.
Thank you Martin- top notch video!👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you
Thank you Martin! That was fascinating! :-)
The main fuel tank on these “08” type shunters is mounted on the framing, in front of the cab and holds around 500 gallons. The fuel actually feeding the engine is, as someone has already stated, supplied by gravity from a higher level Service Tank of around 50 gallons capacity. On BR, in the “old days”, the fuel had to be pumped up into this Service Tank by a semi-rotary pump....the one you would have seen the driver working when you “cabbed” one. Later on, these hand pumps were dispensed with and an electric lift pump was fitted, along with a float switch etc. to remove the need for manual pumping.
Cheers for another great video....
Don
Thanks Don I knew I kinda remembered it
Good video that. Nice to see people passionate about our industrial heritage
Great video of a great operation to restore lost railway history! As for the noise and clamor of a workshop, I worked in such a shop on trucks and construction equipment for 30 years, and yes it was noisy, cold, dirty, polluted and very messy at times. But we all did our best to keep the shop as tidy as we could, and we all worked together helping each other get the work out.
Another great video.
Excellent as ever.
Apologies if this has been mentioned before but the 1D shed code on the remains of the Class 20 was Devons Road Bow in London
What a terrific vid mate. Regards Paul.
A new video. Great work Martin only been to Manchester once years ago feel like I know the place now cause of the videos. Making me want to go back for a visit again. Keep up the great work.
Thank you. This was up the road in Preston
Great video 👍
I love going round the steam engine workshops. Usual one for me is the NYMR in Goathland. Cheers Martin.
Thanks Steve
Engine shed is over the river and through the tunnels opposite the station at Grosmont when I was there.
The coach works for carriages is at Pickering.
Im sorry but ive just noticed 4 dislikes ....how can people dislike something like this... martin hasnt got too go out and do things like this but he does because he loves doing it for him self and the people who watch it .... please thumbs up not down
They are irrelevant Martin 😃And thank you
Great video Martin, a nice little bonus to finish your day out. The Ribble is one I've never visited, very interesting to have a look about. That 20 needs a bit of work though.😬
Cheers for now,
Dougie.
Very very Interesting!
Another wonderful video :) I am fortunate enough to live near the Illinois Railway Museum, which is the largest railway museum in the U.S. However, I'm ashamed to say that it has been a number of years since I have visited there. I plan to visit there this Summer, and spend a few hours immersing myself in trains and railroad memorabilia :) Someday, many years from now, I think I will volunteer there after I have retired.
Brilliant Martin, thank you Atb Andy
Hell of a great video Martin 😎
Cheers to you and Gordon 🍻
Definitely going on my favourites
🙂🍻👍🏻
Thank you Sir
I worked at Stanlow for 40 years and saw No. 4 on a regular basis. Special fire proof locos for moving tanks empty and full round the yards. Sadly rail traffic from stanlow all now gone.
Love the Mk1 corridor stock. Me & my mates used to pile into a compartment at Ulverston station & head off for a day out. The 08:00 & 08:40 departures were always loco hauled & would normally be 47 hauled but occasionally would turn up with a 40 on the front. My first adventure was in December 1981 aged 13. We went off to Edinburgh to see the last of the Deltics before they were all withdrawn from service. Happy times. Cheers, Chris.
Great stuff Chris. I saw my first Deltic at Stalybridge can you believe
I have been told that they did sometimes turn up in places you wouldn't expect them to. I watched a vid a few years back that showed the Alcan(?) works in the North East using a preserved one for some reason. I'll see if I can find it.
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Great video Martin & Nodrog , hope they get the Shunter running again as well as the other locos, thanks
Great Video Sir . My Dad worked on the Railroad back in the 40s . Many Cool photos of them Digging by Hand Steam Engines and their cargo . Passengers & Freight . Out of Snow Slides in the Fraser Canyon in BC .
Thanks Rob. Sounds like proper winters
A warm trip down memory lane..great vid, many thanks.
Thank you Neil
Fantastic video mate! Its always a pleasure to see films like this. I do want to point out the terrifying face at 21:22. Gave me quite the scare lmao
Great informative video. Thanks Nodrog, Martin, and Martin Zero.
Thank you
I worked on the Class 08s from 1974 to 1983, and some of the early ones you had to keep pumping by hand fuel to a smaller tank, not been on one since 1983!
Great stuff
perfectly done martin, love every single video. this one was was very fitting as i was onboard 45596 Bahamas yesterday thundering up to Carlisle. all the best take care mate.
Ahh brilliant and thank you
Special video. 🙂 Exceptionally clean in there. Lovely to see maroon Mark 1 with "ferret and dartboard" insignia. Much better than drab rail blue.
My sort of stuff Martin...coming from a family of ex Vulcan works employees..got to love it...and still waiting for more Manchester town hall...keep on keeping on..cheers buddy....
Thanks very much Steve
Very interesting, the other Martin sure does know his trains! Enjoyed watching, learned a lot. Cheers