LOW FAT vs LOW CARB DIET: Who Are the Best & Worst Diabetes Doctors?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Low Fat vs Low Carb for Diabetes: Who Are The Best & Worst Type 2 Diabetes Diet Doctors?
Thanks so much to Plant Chompers for this video. Please subscribe to his channel here: / @viva-longevity
---
Dr. Sarah Hallberg TEDx talk: • Reversing Type 2 diabe...
Dr. Neal Barnard TEDx talk (Diabetes): • Tackling diabetes with...
Dr. Neal Barnard TEDx talk (Alzheimer's): • Power Foods for the Br...
Dr. Michael Snyder on continuous glucose monitoring: • Dr. Michael Snyder on ...
Dr. Walter Willett on fat: • Walter Willett - Inter...
Dr. Ancel Keys on the Mediterranean diet: • Ancel Keys & Mediterra...
Dr. Jason Fung's book, The Diabetes code:
www.amazon.com...
Dr. Neal Barnard's book, Reversing Diabetes:
www.amazon.com...
Dr. Richard Bernstein's book, Diabetes Solution:
www.amazon.com...
Cyrus Khambatta's and Robby Barbaro's book, Mastering Diabetes:
www.amazon.com...
Metrocosm animation of global rise of obesity:
metrocosm.com/m...
Data is Beautiful rise of fast food chains:
• Biggest Fast Food Chai...
We want to hear from you! This is our textphone number +1 323 622 7040 (USA and CA only at the moment) send us a message!
Or if you are not in the USA or CA you can Telegram us t.me/plantbase...
★ SUPPORT OUR WORK BY MAKING A CONTRIBUTION: plantbasednews...
★ SIGN UP TO RECEIVE OUR WEEKLY HEADLINES IN YOUR INBOX: www.plantbasedn...
★ SIGN UP TO RECEIVE THE LATEST NEWS DIRECT TO YOUR PHONE: plnt.news/news...
★ CHECK OUT OUR VEGAN PREGNANCY GUIDE: plnt.news/vega...
★ CHECK OUT OUR VEGAN PARENTING GUIDE: plnt.news/rais...
★ HELP TRANSLATE OUR VIDEOS: bit.ly/translat...
★ GOT A NEWS STORY WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT? Please email press@plantbasednews.org or leave a message on our hotline UK landline: +44 207 0960 175, US landline: +1 818 963 5411
WEBSITE
★ www.plantbasedn...
SOCIAL MEDIA
★ TWITTER: / plantbasednews
★ FACEBOOK: / plantbasednews
★ UA-cam: / plantbasednews
★ INSTAGRAM: / plantbasednews
LEARN ABOUT PLANT-BASED LIVING
★ Cowspiracy ➞ • COWSPIRACY - Official ...
★ NutritionFacts.Org ➞ goo.gl/BdNbiU
★ Try Vegan for 30 days ➞ www.veganuary.com
Cured metabolic syndrome, pre-diabetes, Crohn's, fibromyalgia & knocked secondary progressive MS down to inactive. I'm getting healthier & stronger every day. Thanks, Drs. Greger, Mcdougall, Esselstyn (sp?), Barnard... whole foods plants for the win!!
Good bruh
Congratulations!! To me that's one of the most powerful aspects of eating plant-based that I wished I had time to mention in this episode: it also has fiber that feed the microbiome, so it addresses diseases like Crohn's - not just diabetes.
You spelled Esselstyn correctly. :-) And...good work!!
Congratulations! I have friends with MS who are still in denial. They are still on the SAD diet that got them unhealthy. I hope they see what you have accomplished and change their ways!
@BobbyFischer0000 Do you know what it was that caused your health to suffer? I'm just curious as to whether it was a sensitivity to wheat or what.
As a type 1 diabetic, MASTERING DIABETES is my jam.
Following the science in the book, I went from a 10 A1c to a 5.4 A1c in 3 months and lost 50lbs at the same time. My doctors now call me "heart attack-proof" based on my blood work, meaning I won't die the way most diabetics die and I get to live a lot healthier life enjoying the best food there is.
!!!! 😎💪👏🎉 Congratulations - what an accomplishment. I do think it's an A+ book. I read it very carefully and listened to many of their interviews. Solid.
Don't let anyone tell you type 1 diabetes is permanent just because you were born with it; it can be reversed completely.
www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Reversal-of-type-1-diabetes-using-plant-based-diet%3A-Chowdhury/e19014ec84f07635e61b321addb3dfbb851a9635
«Type-1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease characterized by hyperglycemia, inability to produce insulin due to self-destruction of beta cells in the pancreas. The epidemic of type-1 diabetes causes irreversible suffering like retinopathy, nephropathy, neuropathy, foot complications, high blood pressure, etc, and put patients on a life sentence with insulin. The common perception in medical science is that sugar levels cannot be normalized without the help of medication. However, in the present study we examined a type 1 patient by putting her on a diet plan with regular follow ups and studied all diabetes-related biochemical parameters. We were successfully able to eliminate her medication and insulin dependency.»
@@hoon_sol NO.
But u haven’t stated what u have done that’s different than before…
Whole grain, plant food and fruit!
I am feeling great at 71 with WFPB. I was interviewed for pre-colonoscopy last week and the RN asked me about daily medications (none), blood sugar (excellent), cholesterol (low), blood pressure (low-normal), and many other questions. At the end he said "I call people all day five days a week for this and I hardly ever meet anyone like you. Keep it up!"
Thank you for the excellent video.
Probably don’t need a colonoscopy
Loving meat, cheese, eggs etc I loved the idea of Sarah's approach but it wasn't long before my neuropathy was so painful I had to stop. Switching to Neal Barnard's way sorted out my diabetes as well as my neuropathy. I don't like it as much but the bottom line is - it works.
Wow, happy for you!!❤
It is to bad you had to find that out the hard way. But sharing your story will help others. Thank you!
Plant Chompers is easily one of my favorite creators on YT.
I don’t think T2D send T1D can be discussed as being related. The challenge with T1D is that exogenous insulin is required as the body can’t produce its own. Thus, the idea of avoiding foods which avoid large rises in glucose means that much smaller doses of insulin are required. This has the enormous benefit of reducing the likelihood someone might accidentally overshoot the dose and end up in a coma. However, with CGM and insulin pumps, being able to manage a higher carb diet is likely less difficult nowadays.
T2D is a different beast which manifests in high blood glucose but has a combination of causes. My own endocrinologist on diagnosis said there are many things which may contribute in different degrees that it is difficult to pinpoint exactly what pushes the glucose up.
Luckily, we diabetics have one superpower. We can test for ourselves. There is no need to listen to anyone’s opinion. Simply eat something and see what happens. I learned 13 years ago that rice and noodles send mine through the roof. Museli (even the lowest carb available) for breakfast was a disaster. Any more than 2 slices of the highest fiber bread I can find does the same. Root vegetables push up but less dramatically so smaller portions are an option from time to time.
I has a very clear choice, avoid foods that cause sharp rises in blood glucose or take medication to pharmacologically lower glucose. I opted for the non-pharma solution.
So, for anyone wanting to know, get a CGM and see for yourself! If you can find a whole food plant based diet that keeps glucose in normal ranges (and an A1C lower than 5.8 - although I prefer to keep mine under 5.4) then go for it. If you need some medication to help, that’s a choice that can also be made.
I couldn’t, so defaulted to eating more meat as it is one of the few ‘carb free’ food sources. I did this long before I’d even heard of low carb or keto - it was a simple case of testing my blood after various meals!
You aresort of correct, but, they share thing in common. You need to know a T1D can become insulin resistant just like a T2D if they do not manage their diet. In that regard the diet by Dr Barnard is the same. There is also Type 1 1/2 Diabetes.
Each video is so well done! The quality and fact checking is better than most Netflix documentaries 👏🏻
Thanks
I was low carb way before I was vegan. Developed T2 Diabetes. Reversed my T2 diabetes when I started eating whole food plant-based. The doctors who told me to eat low carb were amazed. I love my carbs, any diet that restricts my carb intake and stops me from eating an apple is dangerous as far as I am concerned.
Good
you developed T2 diabetes on like 1-2 whole food meals per day?
Yep whole plant based is the way to go
Complex carbs are not the problem.
Sugar and simple carbs are the problem.
Sugar turns to belly fat.
Absolutely no doctor has ever told their diabetic patient to go on a low carb diet until very recently. They would have risked being struck off. You need to say exactly what your ‘low carb’ diet was that led to T2D and whether you were overweight and gaining weight on it. My bet is that you had roughly equal % of carbs and fats and the fats were likely not stable ones (animal fats) and you were over eating. It’s great that you no longer have T2D though👍 but blaming low carb for T2D without explaining what you mean by that has zero credibility.
13 years vegan, plant based is the best decision ever. I do 50/50 plate Dr McDougall.
You do not need to eat animals to live!
amen to that! I don't miss meat and dairy!
What is 50/50 plate?
That's brilliant! I've seen the plate but I'm not sure which of Dr McDougall's books it was from. Do you remember?
Mcdougall is fantastic
@@craftycrafter1960 yes indeed he truly is ❤️
Subscribed to this channel because it was recommended - this is the first thing I've watched. Looking good, so far.
Both diets have the same thing in common. Eat whole foods. Don't eat processed foods. I do better with low carb (reversed my diabetes), but I know others who seem to do well with with whole food higher carbs. We should embrace commonalities in healthy diets instead of pitting one diet against another. The SAD should be the common enemy!
Whole foods are the only thing they have in common. Us humans were never meant to eat high fat protein diet. This diet increase your Methionine and reduces your FG21, very little fiber so it reduces your gut bacteria, not to mention the meat does get into your colon and putrifies, which is toxic... All and all it means a shorter life and we have the science to back that up. Even Dogs live longer on a WFPB diet.
So sad to hear about Dr. Sarah Halberg that she died with cancer. But this video is inrcredibly well researched and puts up the best of both sides helping us to have a choice and that choice is always a plant base diet that has better outcomes. Thank you for this content
Yeah funny how all these meat and sugar addicts die... ffs wake up
She must have practiced what she preached. Very sorry.
Thank you, UA-cam Algorithm.....I was delighted to find this channel today. I appreciate your style, but really appreciate the science! I have added a few episodes to my watch list so you will now be joining me on my morning elliptical🙂
So much in there , I used to be on the low carb side but now I am Vegan , I don't think I'll change back .
Thanks for this .
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I was so confused by these two Tex talks! Thank you for doing this.
Wow👍 Thank you Plant Chompers!
I am 57, practice intermittent fasting(best thing), bp average 100/65, resting heart rate mid 40s, aaaaaaand plant based mostly carbs and never felt better.
No meat at all? No chicken?
That is correct, none. @@MrGeorgewf
@@aljanet1514
Not easy
I love these videos. So well done. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these.
Thank you for this. You actually cited sources that are legitimate and from both sides. I have found as a T2 that keto/low carb was easy but not working to control my blood sugars after several years of being on it. Insulin resistance only gets worse on keto and as my diabetes progressed it was impossible to maintain a good BG or A1C. I need a more balanced approach and this video is helping me get there.
It’s frustrating that the numbers lie to us until it is has caused significant problems. My husband is dealing with this and almost died from diabetic complications. It is so hard to turn around.
@@tanyapotter417 Thanks for your comment. Was your husband carnivore or whole-food plant based? What does he eat now? How is his diabetes?
Wow, I would like to give this 100 thumbs up! So much great information. I am going to share this with people I love. I have been so confused, the people I love are confused, the one solid bit of info my dr. stands behind is limit/reduce sugar. I've been watching a lot of Jane Esselstyn's videos (love her mom and dad's cameos). They are really inspiring me to be as wfpb as possible.
Holy Crikey! There's so much content in this video, I'm going to have to watch it again. And, then you said you've been reading books and compiling it for a year. I believe it! Great interjecting the short vid cuts of the actual people talking. Well done. Thanks Chris, and thanks again Klaus for getting a good one out there!
I love the research effort you put into these videos. It is truly exceptional. One of the problems with this conversation is the terminology people use. "high carb" is quite meaningless unless you define where those carbohydrates are coming from (whole foods or processed foods and the specific foods eaten). "low carb" can also be very misleading because it fails to define the volume of different foods in the diet. It's easy to create a "low carb" diet that is 80% whole plant foods for example...just fill up most of your plate with non-starchy vegetables.
As a health writer I've studied most of the keto, zone, etc diets and a most of the whole food, plant based diets. There is some useful information in most of these books and problems with diets that go to extremes on both spectrums.
INSULIN RESISTANCE DRIVEN BY DIETARY FATS & OILS
One of the key problems with type 2 diabetes is insulin resistance. A simplistic way to explain it is to say that less fluid fats (saturated fats, hydrogenated oils etc) become part of the cell membranes in the muscle cells making difficult for the insulin receptors to function efficiently. This basic concept is accepted by doctors on the whole food, plant based sides and doctors on the "low carb" side (Dr Barry Sears Zone diet in particular which does have some nice work on explaining the role of lipids in the cells).
BLOOD GLUCOSE & INSULIN SPIKES FROM FOOD INTAKE
The food we eat causes blood glucose to rise and the low carb doctors are correct...someone who is insulin resistant eating large quantities of carbohydrates in a meal is likely to spike their blood glucose levels leading to an insulin spike and all its associated problems.
Processed foods high in sugar and poor choices of fats (saturated fats, hydrogenated fats etc) are especially problematic. With someone who has high insulin resistance any type of high carbohydrate food is likely to spike their insulin levels...fruits, potatoes etc...they may all be a problem. And with a glucometer they can measure their blood glucose response so we know that there are problems there. Contrary to what some fringe diet exponents will tell you all whole plant based foods are not safe for type 2 diabetics.
But it's important to note that any meal high in calories will spike insulin levels. And many protein sources including animal protein will spike blood glucose and insulin levels too. processed meats are especially problematic. When it comes to people with diabetes there is no type of high calorie meal that is "safe". You can't wolf down a plate full of meat and think that's okay.
IF YOU KEEP EATING A DIET HIGH IN ANIMAL PROTEIN YOU'LL LIKELY STAY INSULIN RESISTANT
Also diets high in animal protein have another problem. The poor choices of fat that lead to insulin resistance are in the cells of the animals people eat. So unless you restrict or remove your intake of animal protein it's unlikely you'll completely resolve the problem of insulin resistance.
People on diets high in animal protein need to keep restricting their carbohydrate intake and calorie intake indefinitely to control their blood glucose and insulin levels because they are mostly insulin resistant. My vegan friends won't like me saying it but you can have a quite healthy diet eating modestly portioned, leaner choices of animal protein if half or more of the volume of what you eat is non-starchy vegetables and you minimize or eliminate processed foods. Most of the sensible low carb diets follow a model something like this.
But there are better ways of doing things that deal with the core problem of insulin resistance.
Early studies on diets that are lower in total high carbohydrate intake AND plant based are much more effective at controlling blood glucose and insulin than their animal protein counterparts. The "eco-Atkins" diet is an example of this.
The evidence also points to whole food plant based diets helping increase insulin sensitivity and decrease insulin resistance. One of the problems with some plant based dieters is they don't understand that developing good insulin sensitivity is a process that takes time.
You don't recommend a type 2 diabetic start eating a diet high in high glycemic fruit and vegetables from day one. The first recommendation is usually to cut back or cut out the animal protein replacing it with whole food plant based proteins and make non-starchy vegetables at least half the volume of what you eat every time you eat.
Over time as insulin sensitivity rises people monitoring their blood glucose will find they can eat higher glycemic fruits and vegetables without that spiking blood glucose.
EXERCISE & ACTIVITY LEVELS ARE A HUGE KEY
Your activity levels and regular exercise profoundly affect your insulin sensitivity so any conversation of diet should include a conversation about activity and exercise. Put simply you should be constantly active most of the day and get some more vigorous exercise at least once or twice a day.
One last point. I always laugh when diet doctors try to point to food pyramids as the harbinger of evil diets. The average person takes no notice of those food pyramids. Have you ever seen anyone at a supermarket or a takeaway checking the food pyramid on their mobile before they order their big mac with fries and coke?
Awesome info. Thank you.
Thx. This was very helpful and informative
Great stuff!
See you couldn't help but to write an article for us here!🤔😉🤗😇
No one is going to read all this
Great video, Wow good review on both sides . Thanks
Great introduction to the video. Why nutrition is so confusing. Even doctors disagree on what to eat, both works for their patients. Thanks for creating this video. keep up the amazing work! :)
I must say, I have watched a few of your videos for sometime and they are simply the best ever...thank you!
I tried both. High fat, keto diet sounded very attractive only found its not who already in diabetes. Keto was only good loosing belly fat fast but worsen the diabetes with ketoacidosis. Please don't do high fat if you already diabetes.
Low fat (
Lets not ignore the 3 million years of Anthropology and how we survived many ice ages and still arrived here. MEAT/SEAFOOD
Hahaha, Anthropology hasn't been around for 3 million years, Jethro. It only started in the 18th century. Hahahaha such a try hard....Besides I don't think the ice ages really affected Africa that much hahahaha.
Thank you very much for all your work and your honesty.
Thank you. As the mom of a teen with Type 1 diabetes, I have read all of the diabetes books mentioned. We tried Dr Bernstein’s method for two years and it worked. It also improved my Lyme and allergies, and eliminated my husbands Gerd. Teen hated it and missed fruit, so I was ecstatic to find Mastering Diabetes. Switched and felt great. We were shocked at how much less insulin my daughter needed with DAYS of eating this way, even with tons of bananas and potatoes. Such tangible immediate evidence is rare in food plans. I still eat this way, but my teen can now drive and gets fast food and other junk with her friends several times a week, even though her spikes are obvious on her glucose monitor and it makes her feel like crap. It is so frustrating but I give up... the food industry owns her. We still eat healthy at home. Thanks for all you do, please specify Type 2 anytime you mention diabetes can be eliminated with diet, it’s a real sore spot for all Type 1 moms.
It's a sore spot for every Type 1 diabetic, too
Sounds like a case of going from one extreme to the other! What is she doing currently?
God bless you, and your daughter - thank you for sharing.
EXCELLENT post, thank you!
Your videos are always full of information, and interesting, always a good watch
Good narrator, good video.
agreed!
Regarding natural foods being more bland, it may be also that people's tastes are inured to more subtle flavors because salt, sugar, are so overwhelmingly strong, that you get used to that flavor. I have noticed that when you eliminate sugar, at some point everything actually tastes sweet, even things like beans and whole grains. Organic carrots with the tops on, are SWEET. So are sweet potatoes, butternut squash, without overwhelming your taste buds with refined sugar, these foods have their own subtle sweetness. Same with salt, when you reduce overall salt in your diet, very salty foods are intolerably salty.
Cutting out all added sugar, now I find things like milk are almost dessert sweet. A latte tastes like a sugary drink now.
Eliminating all forms of sugar (including alcohol!) and artifical sweeteners has been the single most important factor for me. Not only was I able to normalise my HbA1c (previously pre-diabetic), but I simply do not crave 'bad' foods anymore. I LOVE all kinds of vegetables and I eat fruit instead of 'desserts'. Moreover, UPF foods have become deeply unappealing to me, so I never eat them anymore. I also find that I have a lot more energy than I used to have!
The answer: we need BOTH fats and carbs. A balanced diet is key. Too much of anything isn't good.
But only from plant sources. 💯
@@carmadefries3729 of course ;)
@@carmadefries3729 exactly
We can be perfectly healthy without any carbohydrates. Protein and fat are essential.
@@MB-im6oo but we can get fat and protein from plants?
This one of the best videos I have ever seen. Thank you.
One cloggs your arteries and one does not, nuff said 👍
Wrong.
Insulin is the problem.
Sugar and white flour is the real killers
You're using data from about 40 years ago.
New research shows the opposite.
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 True. Refined sugars, processed food, and perhaps more importantly excessive amounts of animal fat are the main problem based on the long-term findings. Some dietary nuances for individual profiles. Can't really deal in absolutes when it comes to diet.
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 which research? The one funded by the farming industry?
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 Plain and Simple. Most people like what is closer to what one eats. Eating plants is tough for most hence they are looking for the easier solution and immediately get seduced by a smart talker like Dr. Jason Fung who provides studies inaccurately to earn his livelihood
But it doesn't.
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful information!
I am a little unique in that I was born with a pre-diabetic condition and have tried both strict whole foods vegan and clean keto diets to control my blood sugar issues. So I can give you a basic breakdown on how both worked for me.
Keto
Pros: Best blood sugar control (in a way) When you train your body to run on ketones blood glucose does not matter much at all so even if you get low you won't even notice. I have NEVER had a blood glucose issue of any sort while in ketosis. Most stable energy of any diet by far. Better cardio better sleep and far less cravings. Lost over 30lbs without ever counting calories and kept most of it off with annual cycles.
Cons: Hardest diet around to stick to since there are added carbs in nearly everything and carbs are more addictive than heroine, plus I cannot do it in the summer since I live in a hot climate and keto makes you more prone to dehydration issues and I work outdoors.
Other: Keto community is generally supportive and helpful although there are a few carnivore quacks hanging around that will swear by some absolutely crazy $#!^.
Vegan
Pros: Much easier to stick to since carb addiction is vastly stronger than any meat addiction could ever hope to be. The food is far better than I though it would be.
Cons: Much less blood glucose control than with keto although I have never had a severe issue while on vegan just minor ones that left me feeling shaky and drained. I never lost any weight on vegan like I did on keto.
Other: Vegan community is generally toxic as hell, I have never in my life seen such a flock of idiotic angry brainwashed sheep shouting absolute propaganda nonsense, that said there are a few gems in the community that are worth their weight in gold and more than make up for the other 90% being so freaking stupid, to be fair I am talking about the online community as I live in Texas and vegans here are as rare as frog fangs so the online community was all I had to go by, if you have real life vegans where you live your mileage may vary.
Overall I decided to cycle keto every fall and winter while going more plant based in the hot summer months, this might sound crazy but I have not had any life threatening issues since Aug of 2008 so it is clearly working for me. I have thought many times about a vegan keto cycle but vegans are VERY dogmatic about their diet must be high carb low fat and get mad if you even ask about doing something different.
Vegan and keto can both work, and they work for very different reasons. The vegan approach is to make the body more insulin sensitive improving overall stability. Keto works by reducing insulin itself and activating the body's backup metabolic system. If I had to choose one or the other I would have to say keto but bio-individuality is really a thing so your mileage may vary so try both if you are fighting with life threatening blood glucose issues. One thing for absolute certain the current SAD (Standard American Diet) of high carb, moderate fat and moderate protein with all of our trash seed oils and refined carbs is the absolute worst diet on the planet and anything that gets people away from that junk food I am all for. What I have learned is resistant starch, a wide variety of fiber, and clean fats (olive/coconut/avacado oil) as well as some animal fats are good while excess soy, corn and processed foods of all kinds are very very bad.
While you are on vegan diet … does it increase your A1c ?? Can you share your A1c value while on keto and when u are on vegan cycle of diet ?? Thanks
@merckxista No thanks, 7 years without watermelon sound like the second level of hell. That said I have twice tried long term strict vegan cycles with absolutely horrid results. It just does not work for people with my condition.
Corn is not bad, keto is bad, Just make it simple, eat a plant based diet, starchy meals, no meat, no dairy, no oils, you'll be fine.
@@jj-bp3fr Yeah except I tried that and had horrific results, consulted a vegan dietician, planned my meals and tried again with the same results, I was absolutely miserable on strict whole foods vegan diet. If my body cannot adapt to it after 30 days it is just not going to work.
Interesting to hear that we are still as confused and misled now as they were 500 years ago. If a doctor contradicts himself in one book, alarm bells should ring.
It's nitpicking, not contradiction. He starts with general guidelines and goes into details later.
@@Manweor Then that’s what he should say : “This is true in general, but there are exceptions, which I will expand upon later.” Self contradiction is how you detect a liar. Or, in this case, a charlatan.
Thank you so much for all your research and presentation.
I don’t eat meat and would like to thank Jason Fung for possibly saving my life with intermittent fasting which has helped me to get my weight down dramatically and my life back. I got really overweight when I stopped eating meat but with his guidance have learned to reduce carbs and have more healthy fats as well as fasting. I don’t eat so much carbs but have lots of greens. You unfairly portrayed Jason Fung in this video.
Totally agree. This video was so biased I don't know where to begin. And this is the problem with all reviewers, on both sides of the debate. They only see what you want to see. I watched this hoping for a balanced viewpoint because I want to understand more about how to get healthy. All I got was vegan propaganda and twisting of the facts. Disappointing.
Thank you for acknowledging your experience with Dr Fung. I too was disconcerted with the negative review. I have friends who are keto not WFPB and are thriving. I don’t berate them. What’s most important health wise is to eliminate the sugars and highly processed foods. Unfortunately I’m finding I have to keep my dietary choices private as the dietary debates become quite viscous.
The struggle I have with WFPB is that when I have any grains or beans my appetite is insatiable- eating leafy greens never satiates me and I’m always “grazing.”
You’re awesome
prolonged keto leads to heart arrythmia and the most long living people eat high carb so keto is basically not natural
LOVE these deep dives!! Great work!
Thank you for clarifying! Hope u feel better
Thank you for devoting so much time and energy to making this video! It’s so informative
There's 2 very simple facts that point to how we should eat:
1. Primates, which we evolved from and share most of our DNA with, ate nearly all plant based for millions of years. This is what our digestive system took all that time adapting to and thriving on.
2. Population studies that show largely, if not exclusively, plant based diets tied to longevity and overall health.
All this meat and diabetes talk is a modern issue created by our bad habits we've developed as a modern society. Follow our anthropology trail and you'll see the light✌🌱
Nice pseudoscience
@Rick Vis Not to mention that our stomach acid is on the level of Carrion feeders like ravens and close to vultures. Higher than most carnivores, higher than herbivores. The large hind gut that ferments and extracts energy from cellulose, the predominant form of plant sugar is indigestible to us, whereas say in a gorilla, it provides all their energy. The main reason we've bred plants to have higher and higher sugar and carbohydrate and less fiber is because it's what we like and what's easy to produce in large quantity. Humans also have large gallbladders, which are used to store and concentrate bile for breaking down large quantities of fat in one sitting. Our appendix is practically useless and causes more harm than good these days when it gets inflamed. Our large brains require large quantities of omega 3 fatty acids that are in I'll quantity in non-animal based foods. We also don't find vitamin b12 in plant based foods and we don't eat our excrement like apes do, to get it. That would, by nature, make us obligate carnivores. Obligated to eat meat. With science, we've fuddled the system and what we're eating now is nothing like what we have in the past.
Eat the bugs
So true
They live around 40 years, twice less than we do.
They do eat bugs, but this is way less than 10% of their diet.
Most of their food is a lot of high cellulose green leaves. Their GI tract is more robust to process it. Therefore they probably more capable to absorb the nutrients from this raw leaves.
We, as a human, have external GI tract. We process plants multiple ways before consuming for centuries. So our GI loss the ability to process these hard leaves raw.
Loved this video and agree with the final assessment. Thanks you!
BRILLIANT , EXCELLENT , FABULOUS VIDEO !
I KISS THE GROUND YOU WALK ON !
I LOVE YOU !
GREAT WORK !
You like him🤭
I enjoyed your video. Thanks for making it!
A very good video, a lot is bravely tackled. Incidentally I too feel Dr. Neal Barnard and Dr. Michael Greger (whose book, 'How not do die' was mentioned but not his name) point out out a good way and seem convincing. Thank you for the useful and eminently shareable video.
Thanks! I only mentioned Dr. Greger's book in passing because it wasn't focused on diabetes, but it sure has an excellent section on it. Also, he makes the incredibly important point that eating plants doesn't just reverse diabetes, it addresses 15 diseases that are leading causes of death.
@@Viva-Longevity 👍🏼😊
I agree that Dr. Greger is great. And Neil Barnard, and Dean Ornish and Robert Lustig (rails against sugar).
There is no one type fits all solution! Every body is different and reacts differently to the same foods (Real foods, not processed crap!) Trial and error will tell you what foods work best for you and stick to that. The rest is all blah blah, like the bilnd men describing an elephant.
Super job!!
Thank you.
My eyes were starting to cross when he finally gave us the bottom line on which doctor he thinks has it right. It's exhausting! Thank you!
This is a great little video
Thank you for such a great info. ❤
It is so good to finally hear someone try to give a balanced evaluation of the various “experts“, comparing the keto type diet to the plant-based whole food diet. No one is without bias but at least the comparisons were made.
Why do you put “experts” in quotes here? As if implying everyone who has something to say on a subject is of equal value
Fantastic episode. Thank you so much.
Keep putting videos out PLEASE!!! This message is up against so much nonsense going on right now in our culture and media- keto, paleo, protein obsession, etc etc.. We Need to get this info out to people!!! Thank you for this amazing video
yes, most animals can camouflage themselves, run away or even fight back when predated upon. Plants just hang around waiting to be eaten with almost no defense. Nature is so unfair to plants .... tsk tsk tsk.
Thank you for the video! I was just telling my significant other last night about how the Drs on UA-cam are coming at the same problem from opposite approaches. Also I just finished listening to the audio book Whole by T Collin Campbell. I’m going with majority plant based and unprocessed. I think I will get Dr Bernhardt’s cook book.
Ok so 30 minutes later I still don’t know which “science” is the right “science”. Starts with two doctors with different views and never comes back to say which is right and why. Yes, recommends Dr. Barnard’s book but doesn’t say why. I leave the video still confused…
I think he favors the whole foods, plant based diet like Drs. Esselstyn and Furhman. There are plenty of you tube videos from Dr. Barnard too. Micheal Pollan's, "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." is great advice. Esselstyn's plant perfect diet is more restrictive but has the goal of preventing and reversing disease not just weight loss. The videos his daughter and wife put out are very entertaining and provide great meal ideas.
Will perhaps Dr. Sarah Halberg will now switch to a plant based diet after her medical diagnosis of lung and brain cancer, those animals surely triggered cancer growth. I sometimes think it's karma for promoting the suffering of innocent animals.
Watch Dr. Milton Mills master of all masters video on protein, that'll straighten out your mind very quickly. 😂
WFPB with Dr Neal Barnard is the right science.
Very interesting videos! I play them at 75% speed. As Venezuelan my English is not that fast, but I enjoy them a lot
This is fantastic, thank you!
Fantastic program. Thank you. I learned a lot and indobfollow a low fat whole food plant based diet.
I look at it like this people in poverty can't afford meat yet are healthier that anyone with money ..
Isn't it ironic
Yes it is..
I sometimes wonder if that hasn’t always been the source of the problem. When I was a child in the 1960s, food was expensive, especially meat; and meals were heavily starched based: lots of potatoes, or rice, or pasta, depending on where you were from.
As we got wealthier, or food got cheaper, we ate more meat, fish, eggs, & dairy. And we started getting fat.
Processed food has been the scapegoat for a while, but maybe animal products are equally to blame.
I do find it a lot easier to keep my weight down on a vegan diet.
@@pmw3839 my dad would always tell me when he was a kid all they ate mainly was corn beans rice and cactus meat was considered a delicacy
@@pmw3839 absolutely. The government subsidizing the meat industry has made it a more affordable & attractive option. Wonder why they’re so willing to foot that expenditure... Also, I just spent over a year unable to walk thanks to injury. Yet, I barely gained any more than 2-3lbs. Gained more weight in my most active/athletic times when I was eating grilled chicken daily. Results are clear
Everyone's body is different so you have to do whats right for you.
Yeah like every canary and giraffe needs a special individual diet....
@@ceeemm1901We are far more complex than canaries and giraffe.
Are you talking about application of these diets on Type One or Two?
I personally think ANY good diet applied to Type Two would show positive results over McDonalds and pizza.
I shoulda made that distinction clear but I was afraid I was going on ttttooooo lllloooonnnggg. Jason Fung's book only addresses Type II diabetes. I think you're right that any diet that loses the processed food is a big improvement.
@@Viva-Longevity do not forget that even processed foods contain mostly plants.
❤When I go to Mexico, the food, the vegetables, fruits, corn, they all taste so much more pure, have so much more flavor. Seriously, I cried bc the flavors made me enjoy food so much more, I felt so happy. ❤ There's a reason why Taco Bell was not successful in Mexico.
Eat real, whole, plant based food. :-)
yes dear
Exactly 😎
This video is incredibly well done
That’s why everyone is confused about diet. This video needs to get viral
It’s very polarising. The Keto diet seems to appeal to those who want to lose weight and don’t want to give up meat.
Awesome Info! Thank you! Well done!
Vegan for the ANIMALS ! 👵🌿
💚 WFPB💪
Yesss
Vegan for the attention... still glad I did it.
😌
@CJ P.
If I had the time and motivation to go out hunting, I'm fairly certain I'd be doing something meaningful for a living... rather than posting drivel on UA-cam... which is all I seem to do these days.
(◕ᴥ◕)
Carbohydrates are sugar, starch and cellulose. Sugar and starch will spike blood sugars, that is the reason foods with carbs have GI. Protein too, will rise but in moderate.
Instead of trying to prove there is one size fits all one should talk about personalised diet, furthermore, it is about the amount we eat or we choose not to.
Thirdly…. There are number of other professionals talking for LCHF than these two mentioned as well as there are bunch of people for plant based or vegan
What most of pros agree, it is ultra processed foods we should avoid, that is refined carbs and vegetable oils … usually all the ‘packages foods’
Talking about personalised diet… i used to follow Nordic diet for all my life ( native Nordic), and i become T2D. Today I am vegetarian but I will avoid cereals and starchy foods, but I also need supplements, that is dairy and meat. Just because of few facts, we are omnivores, I couldn’t eat that much just veggies to become satiety but replacing proteins and fats more to sugars and starch would spike my glucose immediately. So my option is SH (RIP)….
FYI…. Summer 2023 they will publish new Nordic dietary guidelines and… based on initial information they have given up the food pyramid. Instead it looks pretty much than that in the US back in 50’s before Ansel Keys and his “7 county study”. No more that much carbs, but everything in moderate
Bon appetite!
I have read all four of these books and am carefully reading them again, while experimenting with various meals. I am 70 years old, prediabetic, but slim. So far, over the past six months, my weight, blood glucose and blood lipids have greatly improved on a low-carb, higher fat, adequate protein diet of WHOLE foods, mostly cooked at home. This is one commonality between these diets. They both stress real, not refined foods.
I forgot to add... much depends on where you start. An obese person is likely to have plenty of "gummed up" fat cells as Barnard and Khambatta claim. But I am at 18 percent body fat and now weigh what i did after graduating college in 1973... Thus, I have few gummed up fat cells.
yes, as we grow older our body re-generative process is less efficient and protein and fats are what we need most as main building blocks for repairs. Both are essential nutrients but not carbohydrates as it can be generated by our body under the process of gluconeogenesis. Older people also have a weaker digestive system and would not be able to handle most of those anti-nutrients e.g. Phytate, Tannin or Lectin common in non-poisonous plants. They are natural defense system of plants as they too do not want to be easily eaten. Hence herbivore have more elaborate digestive system and even so, their dungs are still classified as fertiliser as they are still nutrient packed (only semi-digested).
Sounds like you are listening to some dubious science, ie famous UA-camr, selling supplements, creams and potions. Fruits, vegetables, nuts and beans are not poisonous. No reputable cardiologist recommends more red meat, butter or saturated fat.
Thank you for making these videos. I wish I can do more to promote your channel on top of subscribing, liking and forwarding your videos.
That was fantastic. At the end of 2020 I miraculously came through 17 years of horrendous pain. In the last 3. 5 years I have lost 40 kg. I had been insulin resistant for 50 years and was told many times I would end up a diabetic. I first tried the ketogenic diet and after going of all the pain medications I realised the pain had not gone. Yes I did lose a lot of weight. Then I did more research and started whole foods plant based and the pain left in 4 weeks. That was 8 months ago and I have never looked back. I love eating this way, have more energy, a clear head , no insulin resistant and feel so much gratitude for the life I have back. Pirkko from Queensland Australia
Monds are you still doing great on plant base diet
Thank you. This was outstanding.
I have a younger brother currently 65 years old with type 2. Eleven years ago he was convinced low carb was the answer. He just happened to have a calcium heart scan done at that time and his score was 147. He stayed low carb for five years and it did control his blood sugar fairly well. He had another scan done at that time and his score was just around the 400 level. His solution? Obviously, he wasn't low carb enough. To him it was excessive insulin and blood sugar causing his score to go up. So, he went Keto for the next three years. And the last two years he decided carnivore was the answer. What was unfortune was that his calcium score was now around 800. And eight month after the last scan he had six stents placed because he was short of breath walking from his house to the mail box and back. So yes, keto, carnivore and low carb did control his type 2 extremely well, but he's mortgaged his future health in the process.
Seed oil has a direct link to a plaque deposit, not the natural animal fats
this is why people with diabetes should seek out medical professionals and not come to their own conclusions based on little evidence!
Normal human behaviour unfortunately. When you invested so much effort and money into your diet it is very hard to accept that you are wrong. It is easier to believe the solution is to go more low carb to solve the problem.
Great episode! Thank you!!
This was such an informative video. No wonder I have been confused. This video provided so much clarity! Thank you!
I love Plant Chompers.
Eating a low fat, low meat high carb diet (mostly plants starches, rice etc.) is what gave me type two diabetes. So I think the question should be - High carb low fat - or low carb - keto and I choose the low carb (very very low carb) High meat and low fat.
Very well done. Thanks
Wow. Just wow. Well said on every front. My Dad keeps pushing Jason Fung lately and I am not good at arguing so there is no way I will get through to him about all of this. It really sucks. =(
Pigs are fed sugar in the form of processed foods. I worked in a Krisp Cream donut factory, the donuts that did not meet quality are sent to the pig farms.
It seems to me, that we just don’t know what the right diet is because it is difficult to lock up a large group of people for a year or so to make sure that they don’t deviate from the prescribed diets in order to do research.
What if the problem is neither low fat nor low carb?
What if the problem is combining fat and carbs?
If you just eat high fat and no carbs you’re fine, and if you eat high carbs and low fat, you are fine also. But if combine the two and you eat something like french fries, you’re in trouble. 🤔
well, I look at it this way. I'm elderly (65) and my regenerative and digestive system is not as strong, hence I would lean more towards the essential nutrients i.e. protein and fat. Carb (which is digested into glucose) is not an essential nutrient as our body is able to generate it via gluconeogenesis. Moreover with a weaker digestive system, I don't want to deal with all the Phytate, Tanin and Lectin present in most plants unless I have very complex digestive system such as cows and elephants.
You are right in highlighting High fats and High carb. Fats (saturated, short to medium chain triglycerides but avoid poly-unsaturated) stimulate the release of Ketones which signal your body to burn fats as fuel. Carb (which is digested into glucose) however stimulate the release of Insulin which signal your body to burn glucose as fuel. Further to that it also makes your body store any excessive glucose as triglycerides (a form of fats) initially in your liver and when it is full, they will be pushed out around the waistline and beyond.
So when you have high carb and High fats, your body had to choose which to use for fuel and which hormones should presides. In this situation, Insulin will preside because the body have to survive as High glucose have very detrimental effects to organs, tissues and nerves. Then any excessive glucose with be converted to fats for storage. Naturally the High fats you eat will pile on to that.
I check my glucose level after every meal since I was diagnosed with severe diabetes (HbA1C @ 13.1%) 2 years ago needing insulin injections daily and sulfonylurea drugs before every meal. I suffered for many months until I decided it ignore my nutritionist advice and pay attention to my glucometer. Now I'm getting better, blood markers, HbA1C and lipids analysis are all normal and I no longer need those daily injection and need only about 1/2 a pill for breakfast. Occasionally I do pop a pill if I'm prepared to have some fruits such as durian. My glucometer has been my saving grace.
I forgot to add, my HbA1C has gone down to 5.2%
Loved this! Thanks
WOW. JUST WOW. Amazing research. Thank you.
Carbohydrates are absolutely fine as long as they are kept away from fat 😮..high carb works only if the fat is low 😊
Keto often includes lots of vegetables....just low carb ones.
The problem with keto is people often don't know what they're doing and don't do it correctly!
Sadly, Dr. Stancik past away from lung cancer. I feel sorry for the family.
I follow starch diet with lots of fruit and no SOS. Vegan for 17 years. BTW, you look great, Man! Thank you for your videos!
Which Dr. Stancik? Died. That's Sarah Holberg who had cancer.
The standard American diet is not low fat. It's a high fat/processed foot diet.
You’re typo made me picture a buffet of processed feet, lol
Low carb is not controversial. It is the species appropriate diet for human beings. What's controversial is the extreme low fat veganism that is being touted as a "cure".
Super good job again!! I have been whole foods nutritarian for 4yrs now. love all the plant Docs I heard Dr Walter Willet when asked what is the optimal amount of meat in the diet and his answer was zero!! I did love the later Nathan Pritikin the pioneer in my opinion. I have been growing allot of my own food for taste and quality and a carrot tastes like a carrot and tomato like tomato. but why just why did you have to bring up Dorrito's . I could fill a swimming pool with them and dive in. Now I have to go back to Dorrito rehab>>
Fantastic! Thank you so so much.
Wonderful. Thank you 😊
Very well done, thank you.
To be clear, Nina Teicholz is not a scientist, she's a journalist and regarding the state of journalism today, it's hard to say if they're selling or informing.
PBN is a joke
I've been diabetic Type 2 (provoked my Spiricort taken to suppress symptoms of Polymyalgia Rheumatic). I've kept records of how many carbs/day I've injested and my fasting blood sugar levels. In my specific case: when I restrict my diet to
Happy healthy vegan compared his blood work to Shawn Baker who is eating only meat. Shawn Baker was borderline diabetic even tho he was only eating meat while Happy Healthy vegan was eating no animal products and quite a bit of carbs. The proof is in the pudding 🤷🏻♀️
The proof is in the EATING of the pudding. In this case meat! 🤣