Congratulations!! To me that's one of the most powerful aspects of eating plant-based that I wished I had time to mention in this episode: it also has fiber that feed the microbiome, so it addresses diseases like Crohn's - not just diabetes.
Congratulations! I have friends with MS who are still in denial. They are still on the SAD diet that got them unhealthy. I hope they see what you have accomplished and change their ways!
As a type 1 diabetic, MASTERING DIABETES is my jam. Following the science in the book, I went from a 10 A1c to a 5.4 A1c in 3 months and lost 50lbs at the same time. My doctors now call me "heart attack-proof" based on my blood work, meaning I won't die the way most diabetics die and I get to live a lot healthier life enjoying the best food there is.
!!!! 😎💪👏🎉 Congratulations - what an accomplishment. I do think it's an A+ book. I read it very carefully and listened to many of their interviews. Solid.
Don't let anyone tell you type 1 diabetes is permanent just because you were born with it; it can be reversed completely. www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Reversal-of-type-1-diabetes-using-plant-based-diet%3A-Chowdhury/e19014ec84f07635e61b321addb3dfbb851a9635 «Type-1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease characterized by hyperglycemia, inability to produce insulin due to self-destruction of beta cells in the pancreas. The epidemic of type-1 diabetes causes irreversible suffering like retinopathy, nephropathy, neuropathy, foot complications, high blood pressure, etc, and put patients on a life sentence with insulin. The common perception in medical science is that sugar levels cannot be normalized without the help of medication. However, in the present study we examined a type 1 patient by putting her on a diet plan with regular follow ups and studied all diabetes-related biochemical parameters. We were successfully able to eliminate her medication and insulin dependency.»
I don’t think T2D send T1D can be discussed as being related. The challenge with T1D is that exogenous insulin is required as the body can’t produce its own. Thus, the idea of avoiding foods which avoid large rises in glucose means that much smaller doses of insulin are required. This has the enormous benefit of reducing the likelihood someone might accidentally overshoot the dose and end up in a coma. However, with CGM and insulin pumps, being able to manage a higher carb diet is likely less difficult nowadays. T2D is a different beast which manifests in high blood glucose but has a combination of causes. My own endocrinologist on diagnosis said there are many things which may contribute in different degrees that it is difficult to pinpoint exactly what pushes the glucose up. Luckily, we diabetics have one superpower. We can test for ourselves. There is no need to listen to anyone’s opinion. Simply eat something and see what happens. I learned 13 years ago that rice and noodles send mine through the roof. Museli (even the lowest carb available) for breakfast was a disaster. Any more than 2 slices of the highest fiber bread I can find does the same. Root vegetables push up but less dramatically so smaller portions are an option from time to time. I has a very clear choice, avoid foods that cause sharp rises in blood glucose or take medication to pharmacologically lower glucose. I opted for the non-pharma solution. So, for anyone wanting to know, get a CGM and see for yourself! If you can find a whole food plant based diet that keeps glucose in normal ranges (and an A1C lower than 5.8 - although I prefer to keep mine under 5.4) then go for it. If you need some medication to help, that’s a choice that can also be made. I couldn’t, so defaulted to eating more meat as it is one of the few ‘carb free’ food sources. I did this long before I’d even heard of low carb or keto - it was a simple case of testing my blood after various meals!
You aresort of correct, but, they share thing in common. You need to know a T1D can become insulin resistant just like a T2D if they do not manage their diet. In that regard the diet by Dr Barnard is the same. There is also Type 1 1/2 Diabetes.
I am feeling great at 71 with WFPB. I was interviewed for pre-colonoscopy last week and the RN asked me about daily medications (none), blood sugar (excellent), cholesterol (low), blood pressure (low-normal), and many other questions. At the end he said "I call people all day five days a week for this and I hardly ever meet anyone like you. Keep it up!" Thank you for the excellent video.
Loving meat, cheese, eggs etc I loved the idea of Sarah's approach but it wasn't long before my neuropathy was so painful I had to stop. Switching to Neal Barnard's way sorted out my diabetes as well as my neuropathy. I don't like it as much but the bottom line is - it works.
I was low carb way before I was vegan. Developed T2 Diabetes. Reversed my T2 diabetes when I started eating whole food plant-based. The doctors who told me to eat low carb were amazed. I love my carbs, any diet that restricts my carb intake and stops me from eating an apple is dangerous as far as I am concerned.
Absolutely no doctor has ever told their diabetic patient to go on a low carb diet until very recently. They would have risked being struck off. You need to say exactly what your ‘low carb’ diet was that led to T2D and whether you were overweight and gaining weight on it. My bet is that you had roughly equal % of carbs and fats and the fats were likely not stable ones (animal fats) and you were over eating. It’s great that you no longer have T2D though👍 but blaming low carb for T2D without explaining what you mean by that has zero credibility.
I am 57, practice intermittent fasting(best thing), bp average 100/65, resting heart rate mid 40s, aaaaaaand plant based mostly carbs and never felt better.
Both diets have the same thing in common. Eat whole foods. Don't eat processed foods. I do better with low carb (reversed my diabetes), but I know others who seem to do well with with whole food higher carbs. We should embrace commonalities in healthy diets instead of pitting one diet against another. The SAD should be the common enemy!
Whole foods are the only thing they have in common. Us humans were never meant to eat high fat protein diet. This diet increase your Methionine and reduces your FG21, very little fiber so it reduces your gut bacteria, not to mention the meat does get into your colon and putrifies, which is toxic... All and all it means a shorter life and we have the science to back that up. Even Dogs live longer on a WFPB diet.
So sad to hear about Dr. Sarah Halberg that she died with cancer. But this video is inrcredibly well researched and puts up the best of both sides helping us to have a choice and that choice is always a plant base diet that has better outcomes. Thank you for this content
Thank you for this. You actually cited sources that are legitimate and from both sides. I have found as a T2 that keto/low carb was easy but not working to control my blood sugars after several years of being on it. Insulin resistance only gets worse on keto and as my diabetes progressed it was impossible to maintain a good BG or A1C. I need a more balanced approach and this video is helping me get there.
It’s frustrating that the numbers lie to us until it is has caused significant problems. My husband is dealing with this and almost died from diabetic complications. It is so hard to turn around.
Ok so 30 minutes later I still don’t know which “science” is the right “science”. Starts with two doctors with different views and never comes back to say which is right and why. Yes, recommends Dr. Barnard’s book but doesn’t say why. I leave the video still confused…
I think he favors the whole foods, plant based diet like Drs. Esselstyn and Furhman. There are plenty of you tube videos from Dr. Barnard too. Micheal Pollan's, "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." is great advice. Esselstyn's plant perfect diet is more restrictive but has the goal of preventing and reversing disease not just weight loss. The videos his daughter and wife put out are very entertaining and provide great meal ideas.
Will perhaps Dr. Sarah Halberg will now switch to a plant based diet after her medical diagnosis of lung and brain cancer, those animals surely triggered cancer growth. I sometimes think it's karma for promoting the suffering of innocent animals.
Regarding natural foods being more bland, it may be also that people's tastes are inured to more subtle flavors because salt, sugar, are so overwhelmingly strong, that you get used to that flavor. I have noticed that when you eliminate sugar, at some point everything actually tastes sweet, even things like beans and whole grains. Organic carrots with the tops on, are SWEET. So are sweet potatoes, butternut squash, without overwhelming your taste buds with refined sugar, these foods have their own subtle sweetness. Same with salt, when you reduce overall salt in your diet, very salty foods are intolerably salty.
Eliminating all forms of sugar (including alcohol!) and artifical sweeteners has been the single most important factor for me. Not only was I able to normalise my HbA1c (previously pre-diabetic), but I simply do not crave 'bad' foods anymore. I LOVE all kinds of vegetables and I eat fruit instead of 'desserts'. Moreover, UPF foods have become deeply unappealing to me, so I never eat them anymore. I also find that I have a lot more energy than I used to have!
I love the research effort you put into these videos. It is truly exceptional. One of the problems with this conversation is the terminology people use. "high carb" is quite meaningless unless you define where those carbohydrates are coming from (whole foods or processed foods and the specific foods eaten). "low carb" can also be very misleading because it fails to define the volume of different foods in the diet. It's easy to create a "low carb" diet that is 80% whole plant foods for example...just fill up most of your plate with non-starchy vegetables. As a health writer I've studied most of the keto, zone, etc diets and a most of the whole food, plant based diets. There is some useful information in most of these books and problems with diets that go to extremes on both spectrums. INSULIN RESISTANCE DRIVEN BY DIETARY FATS & OILS One of the key problems with type 2 diabetes is insulin resistance. A simplistic way to explain it is to say that less fluid fats (saturated fats, hydrogenated oils etc) become part of the cell membranes in the muscle cells making difficult for the insulin receptors to function efficiently. This basic concept is accepted by doctors on the whole food, plant based sides and doctors on the "low carb" side (Dr Barry Sears Zone diet in particular which does have some nice work on explaining the role of lipids in the cells). BLOOD GLUCOSE & INSULIN SPIKES FROM FOOD INTAKE The food we eat causes blood glucose to rise and the low carb doctors are correct...someone who is insulin resistant eating large quantities of carbohydrates in a meal is likely to spike their blood glucose levels leading to an insulin spike and all its associated problems. Processed foods high in sugar and poor choices of fats (saturated fats, hydrogenated fats etc) are especially problematic. With someone who has high insulin resistance any type of high carbohydrate food is likely to spike their insulin levels...fruits, potatoes etc...they may all be a problem. And with a glucometer they can measure their blood glucose response so we know that there are problems there. Contrary to what some fringe diet exponents will tell you all whole plant based foods are not safe for type 2 diabetics. But it's important to note that any meal high in calories will spike insulin levels. And many protein sources including animal protein will spike blood glucose and insulin levels too. processed meats are especially problematic. When it comes to people with diabetes there is no type of high calorie meal that is "safe". You can't wolf down a plate full of meat and think that's okay. IF YOU KEEP EATING A DIET HIGH IN ANIMAL PROTEIN YOU'LL LIKELY STAY INSULIN RESISTANT Also diets high in animal protein have another problem. The poor choices of fat that lead to insulin resistance are in the cells of the animals people eat. So unless you restrict or remove your intake of animal protein it's unlikely you'll completely resolve the problem of insulin resistance. People on diets high in animal protein need to keep restricting their carbohydrate intake and calorie intake indefinitely to control their blood glucose and insulin levels because they are mostly insulin resistant. My vegan friends won't like me saying it but you can have a quite healthy diet eating modestly portioned, leaner choices of animal protein if half or more of the volume of what you eat is non-starchy vegetables and you minimize or eliminate processed foods. Most of the sensible low carb diets follow a model something like this. But there are better ways of doing things that deal with the core problem of insulin resistance. Early studies on diets that are lower in total high carbohydrate intake AND plant based are much more effective at controlling blood glucose and insulin than their animal protein counterparts. The "eco-Atkins" diet is an example of this. The evidence also points to whole food plant based diets helping increase insulin sensitivity and decrease insulin resistance. One of the problems with some plant based dieters is they don't understand that developing good insulin sensitivity is a process that takes time. You don't recommend a type 2 diabetic start eating a diet high in high glycemic fruit and vegetables from day one. The first recommendation is usually to cut back or cut out the animal protein replacing it with whole food plant based proteins and make non-starchy vegetables at least half the volume of what you eat every time you eat. Over time as insulin sensitivity rises people monitoring their blood glucose will find they can eat higher glycemic fruits and vegetables without that spiking blood glucose. EXERCISE & ACTIVITY LEVELS ARE A HUGE KEY Your activity levels and regular exercise profoundly affect your insulin sensitivity so any conversation of diet should include a conversation about activity and exercise. Put simply you should be constantly active most of the day and get some more vigorous exercise at least once or twice a day. One last point. I always laugh when diet doctors try to point to food pyramids as the harbinger of evil diets. The average person takes no notice of those food pyramids. Have you ever seen anyone at a supermarket or a takeaway checking the food pyramid on their mobile before they order their big mac with fries and coke?
Holy Crikey! There's so much content in this video, I'm going to have to watch it again. And, then you said you've been reading books and compiling it for a year. I believe it! Great interjecting the short vid cuts of the actual people talking. Well done. Thanks Chris, and thanks again Klaus for getting a good one out there!
Are you talking about application of these diets on Type One or Two? I personally think ANY good diet applied to Type Two would show positive results over McDonalds and pizza.
I shoulda made that distinction clear but I was afraid I was going on ttttooooo lllloooonnnggg. Jason Fung's book only addresses Type II diabetes. I think you're right that any diet that loses the processed food is a big improvement.
I don’t eat meat and would like to thank Jason Fung for possibly saving my life with intermittent fasting which has helped me to get my weight down dramatically and my life back. I got really overweight when I stopped eating meat but with his guidance have learned to reduce carbs and have more healthy fats as well as fasting. I don’t eat so much carbs but have lots of greens. You unfairly portrayed Jason Fung in this video.
Totally agree. This video was so biased I don't know where to begin. And this is the problem with all reviewers, on both sides of the debate. They only see what you want to see. I watched this hoping for a balanced viewpoint because I want to understand more about how to get healthy. All I got was vegan propaganda and twisting of the facts. Disappointing.
Thank you for acknowledging your experience with Dr Fung. I too was disconcerted with the negative review. I have friends who are keto not WFPB and are thriving. I don’t berate them. What’s most important health wise is to eliminate the sugars and highly processed foods. Unfortunately I’m finding I have to keep my dietary choices private as the dietary debates become quite viscous.
The struggle I have with WFPB is that when I have any grains or beans my appetite is insatiable- eating leafy greens never satiates me and I’m always “grazing.”
Thank you. As the mom of a teen with Type 1 diabetes, I have read all of the diabetes books mentioned. We tried Dr Bernstein’s method for two years and it worked. It also improved my Lyme and allergies, and eliminated my husbands Gerd. Teen hated it and missed fruit, so I was ecstatic to find Mastering Diabetes. Switched and felt great. We were shocked at how much less insulin my daughter needed with DAYS of eating this way, even with tons of bananas and potatoes. Such tangible immediate evidence is rare in food plans. I still eat this way, but my teen can now drive and gets fast food and other junk with her friends several times a week, even though her spikes are obvious on her glucose monitor and it makes her feel like crap. It is so frustrating but I give up... the food industry owns her. We still eat healthy at home. Thanks for all you do, please specify Type 2 anytime you mention diabetes can be eliminated with diet, it’s a real sore spot for all Type 1 moms.
I tried both. High fat, keto diet sounded very attractive only found its not who already in diabetes. Keto was only good loosing belly fat fast but worsen the diabetes with ketoacidosis. Please don't do high fat if you already diabetes. Low fat (
Great introduction to the video. Why nutrition is so confusing. Even doctors disagree on what to eat, both works for their patients. Thanks for creating this video. keep up the amazing work! :)
I am not sold on that low carb negative publicity. True low carb is < 30g a day. The researchers failed to make that distinction. As a type 1 diabetic I can attest that high blood sugars are the cause of not just the complications and increase mortality but even cancer rates. With the low carb diet I have a HbA1c between 4.5-4.8%. Dr Bernstein plan works because it’s based on biochemistry and plain mathematics. The people in the high carb diets never show their CGMs and that’s for a reason. Variable roller coaster BG. Trust me the meat industry is not as deep in the government’s pockets as the whole grain BS food makers. Grains and sugars are chemically identical when metabolized they both turn to the same glucose molecules. I got that from your video natural or not the harm is similar. Which is bizarre with the climate change cult is that over planting crops is just if not more harmful to the environment as animal farms. Furthermore almonds which is an essential protein source for the vegans requires ridiculous amounts of water to grow. Seems like a weak attempt to praise self righteousness, and obvious political undertones not necessarily scientific facts..
"The people in the high carb diets never show their CGMs and that’s for a reason." i completely agree. also they expand the range of their glucose excursions to fit their narrative.
Plant based. 13.9 A1C to 4.8 to 5.2 past few years. Usually eat 300 plus grams of complex carbs a day. Less than 25g of fat. This is not unique. This is how basically all large healthy populations eat.
Wow, I would like to give this 100 thumbs up! So much great information. I am going to share this with people I love. I have been so confused, the people I love are confused, the one solid bit of info my dr. stands behind is limit/reduce sugar. I've been watching a lot of Jane Esselstyn's videos (love her mom and dad's cameos). They are really inspiring me to be as wfpb as possible.
There's 2 very simple facts that point to how we should eat: 1. Primates, which we evolved from and share most of our DNA with, ate nearly all plant based for millions of years. This is what our digestive system took all that time adapting to and thriving on. 2. Population studies that show largely, if not exclusively, plant based diets tied to longevity and overall health. All this meat and diabetes talk is a modern issue created by our bad habits we've developed as a modern society. Follow our anthropology trail and you'll see the light✌🌱
@Rick Vis Not to mention that our stomach acid is on the level of Carrion feeders like ravens and close to vultures. Higher than most carnivores, higher than herbivores. The large hind gut that ferments and extracts energy from cellulose, the predominant form of plant sugar is indigestible to us, whereas say in a gorilla, it provides all their energy. The main reason we've bred plants to have higher and higher sugar and carbohydrate and less fiber is because it's what we like and what's easy to produce in large quantity. Humans also have large gallbladders, which are used to store and concentrate bile for breaking down large quantities of fat in one sitting. Our appendix is practically useless and causes more harm than good these days when it gets inflamed. Our large brains require large quantities of omega 3 fatty acids that are in I'll quantity in non-animal based foods. We also don't find vitamin b12 in plant based foods and we don't eat our excrement like apes do, to get it. That would, by nature, make us obligate carnivores. Obligated to eat meat. With science, we've fuddled the system and what we're eating now is nothing like what we have in the past.
They live around 40 years, twice less than we do. They do eat bugs, but this is way less than 10% of their diet. Most of their food is a lot of high cellulose green leaves. Their GI tract is more robust to process it. Therefore they probably more capable to absorb the nutrients from this raw leaves. We, as a human, have external GI tract. We process plants multiple ways before consuming for centuries. So our GI loss the ability to process these hard leaves raw.
There is no one type fits all solution! Every body is different and reacts differently to the same foods (Real foods, not processed crap!) Trial and error will tell you what foods work best for you and stick to that. The rest is all blah blah, like the bilnd men describing an elephant.
Interesting to hear that we are still as confused and misled now as they were 500 years ago. If a doctor contradicts himself in one book, alarm bells should ring.
@@Manweor Then that’s what he should say : “This is true in general, but there are exceptions, which I will expand upon later.” Self contradiction is how you detect a liar. Or, in this case, a charlatan.
I am a little unique in that I was born with a pre-diabetic condition and have tried both strict whole foods vegan and clean keto diets to control my blood sugar issues. So I can give you a basic breakdown on how both worked for me. Keto Pros: Best blood sugar control (in a way) When you train your body to run on ketones blood glucose does not matter much at all so even if you get low you won't even notice. I have NEVER had a blood glucose issue of any sort while in ketosis. Most stable energy of any diet by far. Better cardio better sleep and far less cravings. Lost over 30lbs without ever counting calories and kept most of it off with annual cycles. Cons: Hardest diet around to stick to since there are added carbs in nearly everything and carbs are more addictive than heroine, plus I cannot do it in the summer since I live in a hot climate and keto makes you more prone to dehydration issues and I work outdoors. Other: Keto community is generally supportive and helpful although there are a few carnivore quacks hanging around that will swear by some absolutely crazy $#!^. Vegan Pros: Much easier to stick to since carb addiction is vastly stronger than any meat addiction could ever hope to be. The food is far better than I though it would be. Cons: Much less blood glucose control than with keto although I have never had a severe issue while on vegan just minor ones that left me feeling shaky and drained. I never lost any weight on vegan like I did on keto. Other: Vegan community is generally toxic as hell, I have never in my life seen such a flock of idiotic angry brainwashed sheep shouting absolute propaganda nonsense, that said there are a few gems in the community that are worth their weight in gold and more than make up for the other 90% being so freaking stupid, to be fair I am talking about the online community as I live in Texas and vegans here are as rare as frog fangs so the online community was all I had to go by, if you have real life vegans where you live your mileage may vary. Overall I decided to cycle keto every fall and winter while going more plant based in the hot summer months, this might sound crazy but I have not had any life threatening issues since Aug of 2008 so it is clearly working for me. I have thought many times about a vegan keto cycle but vegans are VERY dogmatic about their diet must be high carb low fat and get mad if you even ask about doing something different. Vegan and keto can both work, and they work for very different reasons. The vegan approach is to make the body more insulin sensitive improving overall stability. Keto works by reducing insulin itself and activating the body's backup metabolic system. If I had to choose one or the other I would have to say keto but bio-individuality is really a thing so your mileage may vary so try both if you are fighting with life threatening blood glucose issues. One thing for absolute certain the current SAD (Standard American Diet) of high carb, moderate fat and moderate protein with all of our trash seed oils and refined carbs is the absolute worst diet on the planet and anything that gets people away from that junk food I am all for. What I have learned is resistant starch, a wide variety of fiber, and clean fats (olive/coconut/avacado oil) as well as some animal fats are good while excess soy, corn and processed foods of all kinds are very very bad.
@merckxista No thanks, 7 years without watermelon sound like the second level of hell. That said I have twice tried long term strict vegan cycles with absolutely horrid results. It just does not work for people with my condition.
@@jj-bp3fr Yeah except I tried that and had horrific results, consulted a vegan dietician, planned my meals and tried again with the same results, I was absolutely miserable on strict whole foods vegan diet. If my body cannot adapt to it after 30 days it is just not going to work.
Carbohydrates are sugar, starch and cellulose. Sugar and starch will spike blood sugars, that is the reason foods with carbs have GI. Protein too, will rise but in moderate. Instead of trying to prove there is one size fits all one should talk about personalised diet, furthermore, it is about the amount we eat or we choose not to. Thirdly…. There are number of other professionals talking for LCHF than these two mentioned as well as there are bunch of people for plant based or vegan What most of pros agree, it is ultra processed foods we should avoid, that is refined carbs and vegetable oils … usually all the ‘packages foods’ Talking about personalised diet… i used to follow Nordic diet for all my life ( native Nordic), and i become T2D. Today I am vegetarian but I will avoid cereals and starchy foods, but I also need supplements, that is dairy and meat. Just because of few facts, we are omnivores, I couldn’t eat that much just veggies to become satiety but replacing proteins and fats more to sugars and starch would spike my glucose immediately. So my option is SH (RIP)…. FYI…. Summer 2023 they will publish new Nordic dietary guidelines and… based on initial information they have given up the food pyramid. Instead it looks pretty much than that in the US back in 50’s before Ansel Keys and his “7 county study”. No more that much carbs, but everything in moderate Bon appetite!
I've been diabetic Type 2 (provoked my Spiricort taken to suppress symptoms of Polymyalgia Rheumatic). I've kept records of how many carbs/day I've injested and my fasting blood sugar levels. In my specific case: when I restrict my diet to
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 True. Refined sugars, processed food, and perhaps more importantly excessive amounts of animal fat are the main problem based on the long-term findings. Some dietary nuances for individual profiles. Can't really deal in absolutes when it comes to diet.
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 Plain and Simple. Most people like what is closer to what one eats. Eating plants is tough for most hence they are looking for the easier solution and immediately get seduced by a smart talker like Dr. Jason Fung who provides studies inaccurately to earn his livelihood
It seems to me, that we just don’t know what the right diet is because it is difficult to lock up a large group of people for a year or so to make sure that they don’t deviate from the prescribed diets in order to do research. What if the problem is neither low fat nor low carb? What if the problem is combining fat and carbs? If you just eat high fat and no carbs you’re fine, and if you eat high carbs and low fat, you are fine also. But if combine the two and you eat something like french fries, you’re in trouble. 🤔
well, I look at it this way. I'm elderly (65) and my regenerative and digestive system is not as strong, hence I would lean more towards the essential nutrients i.e. protein and fat. Carb (which is digested into glucose) is not an essential nutrient as our body is able to generate it via gluconeogenesis. Moreover with a weaker digestive system, I don't want to deal with all the Phytate, Tanin and Lectin present in most plants unless I have very complex digestive system such as cows and elephants. You are right in highlighting High fats and High carb. Fats (saturated, short to medium chain triglycerides but avoid poly-unsaturated) stimulate the release of Ketones which signal your body to burn fats as fuel. Carb (which is digested into glucose) however stimulate the release of Insulin which signal your body to burn glucose as fuel. Further to that it also makes your body store any excessive glucose as triglycerides (a form of fats) initially in your liver and when it is full, they will be pushed out around the waistline and beyond. So when you have high carb and High fats, your body had to choose which to use for fuel and which hormones should presides. In this situation, Insulin will preside because the body have to survive as High glucose have very detrimental effects to organs, tissues and nerves. Then any excessive glucose with be converted to fats for storage. Naturally the High fats you eat will pile on to that. I check my glucose level after every meal since I was diagnosed with severe diabetes (HbA1C @ 13.1%) 2 years ago needing insulin injections daily and sulfonylurea drugs before every meal. I suffered for many months until I decided it ignore my nutritionist advice and pay attention to my glucometer. Now I'm getting better, blood markers, HbA1C and lipids analysis are all normal and I no longer need those daily injection and need only about 1/2 a pill for breakfast. Occasionally I do pop a pill if I'm prepared to have some fruits such as durian. My glucometer has been my saving grace.
To be clear, Nina Teicholz is not a scientist, she's a journalist and regarding the state of journalism today, it's hard to say if they're selling or informing.
Thank you, UA-cam Algorithm.....I was delighted to find this channel today. I appreciate your style, but really appreciate the science! I have added a few episodes to my watch list so you will now be joining me on my morning elliptical🙂
A very good video, a lot is bravely tackled. Incidentally I too feel Dr. Neal Barnard and Dr. Michael Greger (whose book, 'How not do die' was mentioned but not his name) point out out a good way and seem convincing. Thank you for the useful and eminently shareable video.
Thanks! I only mentioned Dr. Greger's book in passing because it wasn't focused on diabetes, but it sure has an excellent section on it. Also, he makes the incredibly important point that eating plants doesn't just reverse diabetes, it addresses 15 diseases that are leading causes of death.
Keep putting videos out PLEASE!!! This message is up against so much nonsense going on right now in our culture and media- keto, paleo, protein obsession, etc etc.. We Need to get this info out to people!!! Thank you for this amazing video
yes, most animals can camouflage themselves, run away or even fight back when predated upon. Plants just hang around waiting to be eaten with almost no defense. Nature is so unfair to plants .... tsk tsk tsk.
❤When I go to Mexico, the food, the vegetables, fruits, corn, they all taste so much more pure, have so much more flavor. Seriously, I cried bc the flavors made me enjoy food so much more, I felt so happy. ❤ There's a reason why Taco Bell was not successful in Mexico.
Pigs are fed sugar in the form of processed foods. I worked in a Krisp Cream donut factory, the donuts that did not meet quality are sent to the pig farms.
I have a younger brother currently 65 years old with type 2. Eleven years ago he was convinced low carb was the answer. He just happened to have a calcium heart scan done at that time and his score was 147. He stayed low carb for five years and it did control his blood sugar fairly well. He had another scan done at that time and his score was just around the 400 level. His solution? Obviously, he wasn't low carb enough. To him it was excessive insulin and blood sugar causing his score to go up. So, he went Keto for the next three years. And the last two years he decided carnivore was the answer. What was unfortune was that his calcium score was now around 800. And eight month after the last scan he had six stents placed because he was short of breath walking from his house to the mail box and back. So yes, keto, carnivore and low carb did control his type 2 extremely well, but he's mortgaged his future health in the process.
Normal human behaviour unfortunately. When you invested so much effort and money into your diet it is very hard to accept that you are wrong. It is easier to believe the solution is to go more low carb to solve the problem.
It is so good to finally hear someone try to give a balanced evaluation of the various “experts“, comparing the keto type diet to the plant-based whole food diet. No one is without bias but at least the comparisons were made.
Keto often includes lots of vegetables....just low carb ones. The problem with keto is people often don't know what they're doing and don't do it correctly!
Happy healthy vegan compared his blood work to Shawn Baker who is eating only meat. Shawn Baker was borderline diabetic even tho he was only eating meat while Happy Healthy vegan was eating no animal products and quite a bit of carbs. The proof is in the pudding 🤷🏻♀️
Sadly, Dr. Stancik past away from lung cancer. I feel sorry for the family. I follow starch diet with lots of fruit and no SOS. Vegan for 17 years. BTW, you look great, Man! Thank you for your videos!
Yeah, I should have elaborated. Sorry about that. One doc thought I must've had food poisoning and come to think of it, it happened shortly after filming the doctor sequence in a building that had sat vacant because of Covid until we arrived. Without thinking, I drank the water from a fountain and noticed it tasted super rancid. Hmmm... The other doctor thought I may have developed a temporary inner ear thing that gave me intense vertigo. I had never experienced that before. But the good news is the EKG, blood pressure, yada, was all great.
@@GusTovGreat Yes, me too. The whole video was a bit too fast for me, but I put it on 75%, so it's ok. I guess i'm a bit slow that way, but I need time to think between sentences.
So he ate pulled pork and got a blood sugar spike? What did he eat with that? Bread? And was the pulled pork slathered in bbq sauce? All these things make a difference. You can’t just say that meat is bad based on that information.
Well diabetes type 1 and 2 should have a completely different name there is so much confusion on that, they are similar because the effects are literally the same but causes are so different that no one should give diet suggestion on Type 1 to treat Type 2 (I'm talking about the first doctor) Fung is a quack btw
@@blessingsoutlaw It's true that something that works for type 1 can work too for type 2 (like... well... insulin obviously) and that sometimes the type 2 can devolve into type 1, and type 1 can have some sort of type 2 behaviour but really they should stop to call the two diabetes even with the same name, one is metabolic probability temporary insulin resistance the other is a pancreas chronic condition. "I have diabetes type 1 and fruit is bad for me, everyone with diabetes should not eat fruit" is hard to understand.
Wrong; the same suggestion reverses both type 1 and type 2. www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Reversal-of-type-1-diabetes-using-plant-based-diet%3A-Chowdhury/e19014ec84f07635e61b321addb3dfbb851a9635 «Type-1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease characterized by hyperglycemia, inability to produce insulin due to self-destruction of beta cells in the pancreas. The epidemic of type-1 diabetes causes irreversible suffering like retinopathy, nephropathy, neuropathy, foot complications, high blood pressure, etc, and put patients on a life sentence with insulin. The common perception in medical science is that sugar levels cannot be normalized without the help of medication. However, in the present study we examined a type 1 patient by putting her on a diet plan with regular follow ups and studied all diabetes-related biochemical parameters. We were successfully able to eliminate her medication and insulin dependency.»
Thank you for the video! I was just telling my significant other last night about how the Drs on UA-cam are coming at the same problem from opposite approaches. Also I just finished listening to the audio book Whole by T Collin Campbell. I’m going with majority plant based and unprocessed. I think I will get Dr Bernhardt’s cook book.
Eating a low fat, low meat high carb diet (mostly plants starches, rice etc.) is what gave me type two diabetes. So I think the question should be - High carb low fat - or low carb - keto and I choose the low carb (very very low carb) High meat and low fat.
Wow. Just wow. Well said on every front. My Dad keeps pushing Jason Fung lately and I am not good at arguing so there is no way I will get through to him about all of this. It really sucks. =(
All I know is when I eat a healthy meal of maybe chicken, potatoes, carrots and salad, if I put lots of butter on the potato and carrots, and am generous with an oil/vinegar dressing, I do not get hungry for hours later. If I skip the fat, skin my chicken (or eliminate it) and use fat free dressing on my salad, herbs on my potato and carrots, etc. I will be famished in a couple of hours. I think it is the combination of oils and REFINED carbs that do us in. I can eat a slice of toast with a lot of butter on it with my coffee, which has cream in it, and I am not hungry until much later in the day. But if you give me a slice of toast with scant butter or just jelly on it, and coffee with regular or skim milk, same thing happens. I get hungry. Protein helps to put a lid on hunger for me, but so does fat. If I have fat, I can skip wanting bread or dessert. I'm still experimenting with it. I am thinking that the body, when it feels fats coming in, it is thinking that all is well, and it doesn't have to send out hunger signals. But there is more to the picture, and I'm no chemist. I have tried the KETO diet and ended up craving carbs. Maybe it's a matter of natural whole foods, regardless of whether it is carb or not.
That dichotomy you mention nails it! Eat too little high fiber carbs on a keto or paleo etc. and your intestines get sluggish; eat too little fat on the other diets and you want to eat all the time 😂😂😂! The latter syndrome I actually enjoy, but I’m probably “weird” - plus not everyone has a job or lifestyle where they can take such breaks. But if I walk or work (including mental - not just physical - work), I don’t think about food whatsoever usually. It is when you stop working that hunger pangs can manifest too often. Walking and other exercise (including weights if you want) really acts as a flywheel - at least for me. It smooths the whole system out. That is why I’ve enjoyed walking my whole life. For me vegan ism and calorie counting are fun - although sometimes I get a little impatient measuring and weighing all my food. While I’ve never had any blood sugar or obesity problems, now that I’m in my mid sixties I finally went vegan after being vegetarian most of my life. Good luck!!!!
Low carb is not controversial. It is the species appropriate diet for human beings. What's controversial is the extreme low fat veganism that is being touted as a "cure".
Yes, for four years… Personally, I’ve struggled with my feelings about this. On the one hand, I can understand her shock and grief and needing time. Also, she probably values her privacy. But she and Virta Health know how much science there is linking low carb diets to higher risk of cancer so you’d think they could do the same as drug companies and state the possible side effects. It sounds like Paula Dean not mentioning her diabetes meds. On the other hand, Sarah seems convinced that low carb diets are healthy and she has a genetic predisposition.
@@Viva-Longevity Personally, I'm struggling with your feelings about why you would think Dr Sarah Halberg needed to announce to the world early on about her devastating disease which you know has nothing to do with her helping people reverse diabetes. As a force in the world of low carb to reverse type 2 diabetes, Dr Halberg selflessly continued teaching others her knowledge with great passion. Where are your studies to link low carb diets to lung cancer? Currently, we know that "elevated circulating insulin is a major factor in obesity, diabetes and cancer." As a T1D, I choose a healthy lifestyle eating whole real foods, very low carb, high protein, to keep circulating insulin low with excellent blood sugar levels.
@@Viva-Longevity Yeah, I agree. I am not here to demonize meat, but these mostly all meat diet can not be healthy. I think you can include some meat in the diet and be healthy. The problem is ppl eat far too much of it. Refined and processed carbs are horrible also.
Wow! If you weren't confused before you watched this video, you certainly will be when you're done. Names, books, diets firing at you one after another at a pace that no normal person could process without going back and doing tons of independent research. Very little, if any actual science on why a particular diet is better, or worse. One exception that was interesting was the part about the "Dorito effect". For a minute there the narrative slowed down a bit and I actually learned something. I don't know if this was intentionally meant to be confusing, or if the creator just tried to cram too much information into too little time. Either way I'm just as much or more confused on what is a healthy diet as I was before.
I know PBN may not 100% endorse margarine, but today there is margarine made from plant based oils, non hydrogenated and zero saturated fats. If compared to real dairy butter, which one is safer if eaten in low moderation ? Thanks !!
I have read all four of these books and am carefully reading them again, while experimenting with various meals. I am 70 years old, prediabetic, but slim. So far, over the past six months, my weight, blood glucose and blood lipids have greatly improved on a low-carb, higher fat, adequate protein diet of WHOLE foods, mostly cooked at home. This is one commonality between these diets. They both stress real, not refined foods.
I forgot to add... much depends on where you start. An obese person is likely to have plenty of "gummed up" fat cells as Barnard and Khambatta claim. But I am at 18 percent body fat and now weigh what i did after graduating college in 1973... Thus, I have few gummed up fat cells.
yes, as we grow older our body re-generative process is less efficient and protein and fats are what we need most as main building blocks for repairs. Both are essential nutrients but not carbohydrates as it can be generated by our body under the process of gluconeogenesis. Older people also have a weaker digestive system and would not be able to handle most of those anti-nutrients e.g. Phytate, Tannin or Lectin common in non-poisonous plants. They are natural defense system of plants as they too do not want to be easily eaten. Hence herbivore have more elaborate digestive system and even so, their dungs are still classified as fertiliser as they are still nutrient packed (only semi-digested).
Sounds like you are listening to some dubious science, ie famous UA-camr, selling supplements, creams and potions. Fruits, vegetables, nuts and beans are not poisonous. No reputable cardiologist recommends more red meat, butter or saturated fat.
That was fantastic. At the end of 2020 I miraculously came through 17 years of horrendous pain. In the last 3. 5 years I have lost 40 kg. I had been insulin resistant for 50 years and was told many times I would end up a diabetic. I first tried the ketogenic diet and after going of all the pain medications I realised the pain had not gone. Yes I did lose a lot of weight. Then I did more research and started whole foods plant based and the pain left in 4 weeks. That was 8 months ago and I have never looked back. I love eating this way, have more energy, a clear head , no insulin resistant and feel so much gratitude for the life I have back. Pirkko from Queensland Australia
Did you find anything, please 🙏??? Please guide me as well. My employer agency is threatening me if I could not prove that my sky high sugar is in tight control. Please help guide !!!
@CJ P. If I had the time and motivation to go out hunting, I'm fairly certain I'd be doing something meaningful for a living... rather than posting drivel on UA-cam... which is all I seem to do these days. (◕ᴥ◕)
My doctor recommended that I get a glucose monitoring patch ( free style Libre) to see which foods spike my glucose. I think that is great advice. It seems to me that what works for one person doesn’t necessarily work for another.
I sometimes wonder if that hasn’t always been the source of the problem. When I was a child in the 1960s, food was expensive, especially meat; and meals were heavily starched based: lots of potatoes, or rice, or pasta, depending on where you were from. As we got wealthier, or food got cheaper, we ate more meat, fish, eggs, & dairy. And we started getting fat. Processed food has been the scapegoat for a while, but maybe animal products are equally to blame. I do find it a lot easier to keep my weight down on a vegan diet.
@@pmw3839 absolutely. The government subsidizing the meat industry has made it a more affordable & attractive option. Wonder why they’re so willing to foot that expenditure... Also, I just spent over a year unable to walk thanks to injury. Yet, I barely gained any more than 2-3lbs. Gained more weight in my most active/athletic times when I was eating grilled chicken daily. Results are clear
I tried the keto and lost weight but my cholesterol nearly killed me and felt the dangers in my neck. It felt like someone was choking me constantly. When I saw the numbers above 300 I went plant based which led to loose bowel movements. Today, I feel younger and more energy after going almost plant based and no joint pain anymore
Cholesterol doesn't kill. It's like blaming the bandage in an hospital for patient dying. Come to 21st century science, this is not the 80s. We know cholesterol has a little role in CVD. Sugar and inflammation are to blame
@@kulata there's a difference between fibrous carbs and refined carbs. And refined carbs are part of the problem but not the whole story. Oils can contribute to immflammation just as much as sugar. And yes, that includes olive oil. I've experienced this myself. Fibrous carbs and moderate amounts of healthy plant fats like nuts and seeds don't do this. It's a shame that there was a market pushing thr more the better on olive oil. That's a death sentence. If this person is doing better with a plant based diet, let him or her do it.
@@vallye470 my parents do usually get 100% extra virgin olive oil though. And I got acid reflux from consuming too much before. Plus, my mom had stomach issues after 3 tablespoons of coconut oil. If anyone has problems with healthy carbs, it's most likely gut issues from parasites and toxins.
I quit animal products except for the occasional slice of cheese and fish but for the most part it’s plant based and intermittent fasting for me. I’m 72 years old 10 years ago I was a big animal product consumer then I was diagnosed with colon cancer and I was also type 2 diabetic I went plant based right after that and my colonoscopy this year was perfect diabetes down to pre diabetic no medication needed weight is almost perfect great bowl movement and much better sleeps as well. No one can tell me what you guys are consuming is doing you any good. It may help you in some ways but kill you in others I wish some of you at least will open your eyes
Cured metabolic syndrome, pre-diabetes, Crohn's, fibromyalgia & knocked secondary progressive MS down to inactive. I'm getting healthier & stronger every day. Thanks, Drs. Greger, Mcdougall, Esselstyn (sp?), Barnard... whole foods plants for the win!!
Good bruh
Congratulations!! To me that's one of the most powerful aspects of eating plant-based that I wished I had time to mention in this episode: it also has fiber that feed the microbiome, so it addresses diseases like Crohn's - not just diabetes.
You spelled Esselstyn correctly. :-) And...good work!!
Congratulations! I have friends with MS who are still in denial. They are still on the SAD diet that got them unhealthy. I hope they see what you have accomplished and change their ways!
@@BobbyFischer0000 Do you know what it was that caused your health to suffer? I'm just curious as to whether it was a sensitivity to wheat or what.
As a type 1 diabetic, MASTERING DIABETES is my jam.
Following the science in the book, I went from a 10 A1c to a 5.4 A1c in 3 months and lost 50lbs at the same time. My doctors now call me "heart attack-proof" based on my blood work, meaning I won't die the way most diabetics die and I get to live a lot healthier life enjoying the best food there is.
!!!! 😎💪👏🎉 Congratulations - what an accomplishment. I do think it's an A+ book. I read it very carefully and listened to many of their interviews. Solid.
Don't let anyone tell you type 1 diabetes is permanent just because you were born with it; it can be reversed completely.
www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Reversal-of-type-1-diabetes-using-plant-based-diet%3A-Chowdhury/e19014ec84f07635e61b321addb3dfbb851a9635
«Type-1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease characterized by hyperglycemia, inability to produce insulin due to self-destruction of beta cells in the pancreas. The epidemic of type-1 diabetes causes irreversible suffering like retinopathy, nephropathy, neuropathy, foot complications, high blood pressure, etc, and put patients on a life sentence with insulin. The common perception in medical science is that sugar levels cannot be normalized without the help of medication. However, in the present study we examined a type 1 patient by putting her on a diet plan with regular follow ups and studied all diabetes-related biochemical parameters. We were successfully able to eliminate her medication and insulin dependency.»
@@hoon_sol NO.
But u haven’t stated what u have done that’s different than before…
Whole grain, plant food and fruit!
I don’t think T2D send T1D can be discussed as being related. The challenge with T1D is that exogenous insulin is required as the body can’t produce its own. Thus, the idea of avoiding foods which avoid large rises in glucose means that much smaller doses of insulin are required. This has the enormous benefit of reducing the likelihood someone might accidentally overshoot the dose and end up in a coma. However, with CGM and insulin pumps, being able to manage a higher carb diet is likely less difficult nowadays.
T2D is a different beast which manifests in high blood glucose but has a combination of causes. My own endocrinologist on diagnosis said there are many things which may contribute in different degrees that it is difficult to pinpoint exactly what pushes the glucose up.
Luckily, we diabetics have one superpower. We can test for ourselves. There is no need to listen to anyone’s opinion. Simply eat something and see what happens. I learned 13 years ago that rice and noodles send mine through the roof. Museli (even the lowest carb available) for breakfast was a disaster. Any more than 2 slices of the highest fiber bread I can find does the same. Root vegetables push up but less dramatically so smaller portions are an option from time to time.
I has a very clear choice, avoid foods that cause sharp rises in blood glucose or take medication to pharmacologically lower glucose. I opted for the non-pharma solution.
So, for anyone wanting to know, get a CGM and see for yourself! If you can find a whole food plant based diet that keeps glucose in normal ranges (and an A1C lower than 5.8 - although I prefer to keep mine under 5.4) then go for it. If you need some medication to help, that’s a choice that can also be made.
I couldn’t, so defaulted to eating more meat as it is one of the few ‘carb free’ food sources. I did this long before I’d even heard of low carb or keto - it was a simple case of testing my blood after various meals!
You aresort of correct, but, they share thing in common. You need to know a T1D can become insulin resistant just like a T2D if they do not manage their diet. In that regard the diet by Dr Barnard is the same. There is also Type 1 1/2 Diabetes.
I am feeling great at 71 with WFPB. I was interviewed for pre-colonoscopy last week and the RN asked me about daily medications (none), blood sugar (excellent), cholesterol (low), blood pressure (low-normal), and many other questions. At the end he said "I call people all day five days a week for this and I hardly ever meet anyone like you. Keep it up!"
Thank you for the excellent video.
Probably don’t need a colonoscopy
Plant Chompers is easily one of my favorite creators on YT.
Loving meat, cheese, eggs etc I loved the idea of Sarah's approach but it wasn't long before my neuropathy was so painful I had to stop. Switching to Neal Barnard's way sorted out my diabetes as well as my neuropathy. I don't like it as much but the bottom line is - it works.
Wow, happy for you!!❤
It is to bad you had to find that out the hard way. But sharing your story will help others. Thank you!
I was low carb way before I was vegan. Developed T2 Diabetes. Reversed my T2 diabetes when I started eating whole food plant-based. The doctors who told me to eat low carb were amazed. I love my carbs, any diet that restricts my carb intake and stops me from eating an apple is dangerous as far as I am concerned.
Good
you developed T2 diabetes on like 1-2 whole food meals per day?
Yep whole plant based is the way to go
Complex carbs are not the problem.
Sugar and simple carbs are the problem.
Sugar turns to belly fat.
Absolutely no doctor has ever told their diabetic patient to go on a low carb diet until very recently. They would have risked being struck off. You need to say exactly what your ‘low carb’ diet was that led to T2D and whether you were overweight and gaining weight on it. My bet is that you had roughly equal % of carbs and fats and the fats were likely not stable ones (animal fats) and you were over eating. It’s great that you no longer have T2D though👍 but blaming low carb for T2D without explaining what you mean by that has zero credibility.
Each video is so well done! The quality and fact checking is better than most Netflix documentaries 👏🏻
I am 57, practice intermittent fasting(best thing), bp average 100/65, resting heart rate mid 40s, aaaaaaand plant based mostly carbs and never felt better.
No meat at all? No chicken?
That is correct, none. @@MrGeorgewf
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Not easy
13 years vegan, plant based is the best decision ever. I do 50/50 plate Dr McDougall.
You do not need to eat animals to live!
amen to that! I don't miss meat and dairy!
What is 50/50 plate?
That's brilliant! I've seen the plate but I'm not sure which of Dr McDougall's books it was from. Do you remember?
Mcdougall is fantastic
@@craftycrafter1960 yes indeed he truly is ❤️
Both diets have the same thing in common. Eat whole foods. Don't eat processed foods. I do better with low carb (reversed my diabetes), but I know others who seem to do well with with whole food higher carbs. We should embrace commonalities in healthy diets instead of pitting one diet against another. The SAD should be the common enemy!
Whole foods are the only thing they have in common. Us humans were never meant to eat high fat protein diet. This diet increase your Methionine and reduces your FG21, very little fiber so it reduces your gut bacteria, not to mention the meat does get into your colon and putrifies, which is toxic... All and all it means a shorter life and we have the science to back that up. Even Dogs live longer on a WFPB diet.
Subscribed to this channel because it was recommended - this is the first thing I've watched. Looking good, so far.
So sad to hear about Dr. Sarah Halberg that she died with cancer. But this video is inrcredibly well researched and puts up the best of both sides helping us to have a choice and that choice is always a plant base diet that has better outcomes. Thank you for this content
Yeah funny how all these meat and sugar addicts die... ffs wake up
She must have practiced what she preached. Very sorry.
Thanks
Thank you for this. You actually cited sources that are legitimate and from both sides. I have found as a T2 that keto/low carb was easy but not working to control my blood sugars after several years of being on it. Insulin resistance only gets worse on keto and as my diabetes progressed it was impossible to maintain a good BG or A1C. I need a more balanced approach and this video is helping me get there.
It’s frustrating that the numbers lie to us until it is has caused significant problems. My husband is dealing with this and almost died from diabetic complications. It is so hard to turn around.
@@tanyapotter417 Thanks for your comment. Was your husband carnivore or whole-food plant based? What does he eat now? How is his diabetes?
Ok so 30 minutes later I still don’t know which “science” is the right “science”. Starts with two doctors with different views and never comes back to say which is right and why. Yes, recommends Dr. Barnard’s book but doesn’t say why. I leave the video still confused…
I think he favors the whole foods, plant based diet like Drs. Esselstyn and Furhman. There are plenty of you tube videos from Dr. Barnard too. Micheal Pollan's, "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." is great advice. Esselstyn's plant perfect diet is more restrictive but has the goal of preventing and reversing disease not just weight loss. The videos his daughter and wife put out are very entertaining and provide great meal ideas.
Will perhaps Dr. Sarah Halberg will now switch to a plant based diet after her medical diagnosis of lung and brain cancer, those animals surely triggered cancer growth. I sometimes think it's karma for promoting the suffering of innocent animals.
Watch Dr. Milton Mills master of all masters video on protein, that'll straighten out your mind very quickly. 😂
WFPB with Dr Neal Barnard is the right science.
Regarding natural foods being more bland, it may be also that people's tastes are inured to more subtle flavors because salt, sugar, are so overwhelmingly strong, that you get used to that flavor. I have noticed that when you eliminate sugar, at some point everything actually tastes sweet, even things like beans and whole grains. Organic carrots with the tops on, are SWEET. So are sweet potatoes, butternut squash, without overwhelming your taste buds with refined sugar, these foods have their own subtle sweetness. Same with salt, when you reduce overall salt in your diet, very salty foods are intolerably salty.
Cutting out all added sugar, now I find things like milk are almost dessert sweet. A latte tastes like a sugary drink now.
Eliminating all forms of sugar (including alcohol!) and artifical sweeteners has been the single most important factor for me. Not only was I able to normalise my HbA1c (previously pre-diabetic), but I simply do not crave 'bad' foods anymore. I LOVE all kinds of vegetables and I eat fruit instead of 'desserts'. Moreover, UPF foods have become deeply unappealing to me, so I never eat them anymore. I also find that I have a lot more energy than I used to have!
I love the research effort you put into these videos. It is truly exceptional. One of the problems with this conversation is the terminology people use. "high carb" is quite meaningless unless you define where those carbohydrates are coming from (whole foods or processed foods and the specific foods eaten). "low carb" can also be very misleading because it fails to define the volume of different foods in the diet. It's easy to create a "low carb" diet that is 80% whole plant foods for example...just fill up most of your plate with non-starchy vegetables.
As a health writer I've studied most of the keto, zone, etc diets and a most of the whole food, plant based diets. There is some useful information in most of these books and problems with diets that go to extremes on both spectrums.
INSULIN RESISTANCE DRIVEN BY DIETARY FATS & OILS
One of the key problems with type 2 diabetes is insulin resistance. A simplistic way to explain it is to say that less fluid fats (saturated fats, hydrogenated oils etc) become part of the cell membranes in the muscle cells making difficult for the insulin receptors to function efficiently. This basic concept is accepted by doctors on the whole food, plant based sides and doctors on the "low carb" side (Dr Barry Sears Zone diet in particular which does have some nice work on explaining the role of lipids in the cells).
BLOOD GLUCOSE & INSULIN SPIKES FROM FOOD INTAKE
The food we eat causes blood glucose to rise and the low carb doctors are correct...someone who is insulin resistant eating large quantities of carbohydrates in a meal is likely to spike their blood glucose levels leading to an insulin spike and all its associated problems.
Processed foods high in sugar and poor choices of fats (saturated fats, hydrogenated fats etc) are especially problematic. With someone who has high insulin resistance any type of high carbohydrate food is likely to spike their insulin levels...fruits, potatoes etc...they may all be a problem. And with a glucometer they can measure their blood glucose response so we know that there are problems there. Contrary to what some fringe diet exponents will tell you all whole plant based foods are not safe for type 2 diabetics.
But it's important to note that any meal high in calories will spike insulin levels. And many protein sources including animal protein will spike blood glucose and insulin levels too. processed meats are especially problematic. When it comes to people with diabetes there is no type of high calorie meal that is "safe". You can't wolf down a plate full of meat and think that's okay.
IF YOU KEEP EATING A DIET HIGH IN ANIMAL PROTEIN YOU'LL LIKELY STAY INSULIN RESISTANT
Also diets high in animal protein have another problem. The poor choices of fat that lead to insulin resistance are in the cells of the animals people eat. So unless you restrict or remove your intake of animal protein it's unlikely you'll completely resolve the problem of insulin resistance.
People on diets high in animal protein need to keep restricting their carbohydrate intake and calorie intake indefinitely to control their blood glucose and insulin levels because they are mostly insulin resistant. My vegan friends won't like me saying it but you can have a quite healthy diet eating modestly portioned, leaner choices of animal protein if half or more of the volume of what you eat is non-starchy vegetables and you minimize or eliminate processed foods. Most of the sensible low carb diets follow a model something like this.
But there are better ways of doing things that deal with the core problem of insulin resistance.
Early studies on diets that are lower in total high carbohydrate intake AND plant based are much more effective at controlling blood glucose and insulin than their animal protein counterparts. The "eco-Atkins" diet is an example of this.
The evidence also points to whole food plant based diets helping increase insulin sensitivity and decrease insulin resistance. One of the problems with some plant based dieters is they don't understand that developing good insulin sensitivity is a process that takes time.
You don't recommend a type 2 diabetic start eating a diet high in high glycemic fruit and vegetables from day one. The first recommendation is usually to cut back or cut out the animal protein replacing it with whole food plant based proteins and make non-starchy vegetables at least half the volume of what you eat every time you eat.
Over time as insulin sensitivity rises people monitoring their blood glucose will find they can eat higher glycemic fruits and vegetables without that spiking blood glucose.
EXERCISE & ACTIVITY LEVELS ARE A HUGE KEY
Your activity levels and regular exercise profoundly affect your insulin sensitivity so any conversation of diet should include a conversation about activity and exercise. Put simply you should be constantly active most of the day and get some more vigorous exercise at least once or twice a day.
One last point. I always laugh when diet doctors try to point to food pyramids as the harbinger of evil diets. The average person takes no notice of those food pyramids. Have you ever seen anyone at a supermarket or a takeaway checking the food pyramid on their mobile before they order their big mac with fries and coke?
Awesome info. Thank you.
Thx. This was very helpful and informative
Great stuff!
See you couldn't help but to write an article for us here!🤔😉🤗😇
No one is going to read all this
I love these videos. So well done. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these.
Holy Crikey! There's so much content in this video, I'm going to have to watch it again. And, then you said you've been reading books and compiling it for a year. I believe it! Great interjecting the short vid cuts of the actual people talking. Well done. Thanks Chris, and thanks again Klaus for getting a good one out there!
Are you talking about application of these diets on Type One or Two?
I personally think ANY good diet applied to Type Two would show positive results over McDonalds and pizza.
I shoulda made that distinction clear but I was afraid I was going on ttttooooo lllloooonnnggg. Jason Fung's book only addresses Type II diabetes. I think you're right that any diet that loses the processed food is a big improvement.
@@Viva-Longevity do not forget that even processed foods contain mostly plants.
I don’t eat meat and would like to thank Jason Fung for possibly saving my life with intermittent fasting which has helped me to get my weight down dramatically and my life back. I got really overweight when I stopped eating meat but with his guidance have learned to reduce carbs and have more healthy fats as well as fasting. I don’t eat so much carbs but have lots of greens. You unfairly portrayed Jason Fung in this video.
Totally agree. This video was so biased I don't know where to begin. And this is the problem with all reviewers, on both sides of the debate. They only see what you want to see. I watched this hoping for a balanced viewpoint because I want to understand more about how to get healthy. All I got was vegan propaganda and twisting of the facts. Disappointing.
Thank you for acknowledging your experience with Dr Fung. I too was disconcerted with the negative review. I have friends who are keto not WFPB and are thriving. I don’t berate them. What’s most important health wise is to eliminate the sugars and highly processed foods. Unfortunately I’m finding I have to keep my dietary choices private as the dietary debates become quite viscous.
The struggle I have with WFPB is that when I have any grains or beans my appetite is insatiable- eating leafy greens never satiates me and I’m always “grazing.”
You’re awesome
prolonged keto leads to heart arrythmia and the most long living people eat high carb so keto is basically not natural
So much in there , I used to be on the low carb side but now I am Vegan , I don't think I'll change back .
Thanks for this .
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I was so confused by these two Tex talks! Thank you for doing this.
Thank you. As the mom of a teen with Type 1 diabetes, I have read all of the diabetes books mentioned. We tried Dr Bernstein’s method for two years and it worked. It also improved my Lyme and allergies, and eliminated my husbands Gerd. Teen hated it and missed fruit, so I was ecstatic to find Mastering Diabetes. Switched and felt great. We were shocked at how much less insulin my daughter needed with DAYS of eating this way, even with tons of bananas and potatoes. Such tangible immediate evidence is rare in food plans. I still eat this way, but my teen can now drive and gets fast food and other junk with her friends several times a week, even though her spikes are obvious on her glucose monitor and it makes her feel like crap. It is so frustrating but I give up... the food industry owns her. We still eat healthy at home. Thanks for all you do, please specify Type 2 anytime you mention diabetes can be eliminated with diet, it’s a real sore spot for all Type 1 moms.
It's a sore spot for every Type 1 diabetic, too
Sounds like a case of going from one extreme to the other! What is she doing currently?
God bless you, and your daughter - thank you for sharing.
I tried both. High fat, keto diet sounded very attractive only found its not who already in diabetes. Keto was only good loosing belly fat fast but worsen the diabetes with ketoacidosis. Please don't do high fat if you already diabetes.
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Great introduction to the video. Why nutrition is so confusing. Even doctors disagree on what to eat, both works for their patients. Thanks for creating this video. keep up the amazing work! :)
I am not sold on that low carb negative publicity. True low carb is < 30g a day. The researchers failed to make that distinction. As a type 1 diabetic I can attest that high blood sugars are the cause of not just the complications and increase mortality but even cancer rates.
With the low carb diet I have a HbA1c between 4.5-4.8%. Dr Bernstein plan works because it’s based on biochemistry and plain mathematics. The people in the high carb diets never show their CGMs and that’s for a reason. Variable roller coaster BG.
Trust me the meat industry is not as deep in the government’s pockets as the whole grain BS food makers. Grains and sugars are chemically identical when metabolized they both turn to the same glucose molecules. I got that from your video natural or not the harm is similar. Which is bizarre with the climate change cult is that over planting crops is just if not more harmful to the environment as animal farms. Furthermore almonds which is an essential protein source for the vegans requires ridiculous amounts of water to grow. Seems like a weak attempt to praise self righteousness, and obvious political undertones not necessarily scientific facts..
"The people in the high carb diets never show their CGMs and that’s for a reason."
i completely agree. also they expand the range of their glucose excursions to fit their narrative.
Plant based. 13.9 A1C to 4.8 to 5.2 past few years. Usually eat 300 plus grams of complex carbs a day. Less than 25g of fat. This is not unique. This is how basically all large healthy populations eat.
Wow, I would like to give this 100 thumbs up! So much great information. I am going to share this with people I love. I have been so confused, the people I love are confused, the one solid bit of info my dr. stands behind is limit/reduce sugar. I've been watching a lot of Jane Esselstyn's videos (love her mom and dad's cameos). They are really inspiring me to be as wfpb as possible.
Good narrator, good video.
agreed!
The answer: we need BOTH fats and carbs. A balanced diet is key. Too much of anything isn't good.
But only from plant sources. 💯
@@carmadefries3729 of course ;)
@@carmadefries3729 exactly
We can be perfectly healthy without any carbohydrates. Protein and fat are essential.
@@MB-im6oo but we can get fat and protein from plants?
There's 2 very simple facts that point to how we should eat:
1. Primates, which we evolved from and share most of our DNA with, ate nearly all plant based for millions of years. This is what our digestive system took all that time adapting to and thriving on.
2. Population studies that show largely, if not exclusively, plant based diets tied to longevity and overall health.
All this meat and diabetes talk is a modern issue created by our bad habits we've developed as a modern society. Follow our anthropology trail and you'll see the light✌🌱
Nice pseudoscience
@Rick Vis Not to mention that our stomach acid is on the level of Carrion feeders like ravens and close to vultures. Higher than most carnivores, higher than herbivores. The large hind gut that ferments and extracts energy from cellulose, the predominant form of plant sugar is indigestible to us, whereas say in a gorilla, it provides all their energy. The main reason we've bred plants to have higher and higher sugar and carbohydrate and less fiber is because it's what we like and what's easy to produce in large quantity. Humans also have large gallbladders, which are used to store and concentrate bile for breaking down large quantities of fat in one sitting. Our appendix is practically useless and causes more harm than good these days when it gets inflamed. Our large brains require large quantities of omega 3 fatty acids that are in I'll quantity in non-animal based foods. We also don't find vitamin b12 in plant based foods and we don't eat our excrement like apes do, to get it. That would, by nature, make us obligate carnivores. Obligated to eat meat. With science, we've fuddled the system and what we're eating now is nothing like what we have in the past.
Eat the bugs
So true
They live around 40 years, twice less than we do.
They do eat bugs, but this is way less than 10% of their diet.
Most of their food is a lot of high cellulose green leaves. Their GI tract is more robust to process it. Therefore they probably more capable to absorb the nutrients from this raw leaves.
We, as a human, have external GI tract. We process plants multiple ways before consuming for centuries. So our GI loss the ability to process these hard leaves raw.
Eat real, whole, plant based food. :-)
yes dear
Exactly 😎
There is no one type fits all solution! Every body is different and reacts differently to the same foods (Real foods, not processed crap!) Trial and error will tell you what foods work best for you and stick to that. The rest is all blah blah, like the bilnd men describing an elephant.
Interesting to hear that we are still as confused and misled now as they were 500 years ago. If a doctor contradicts himself in one book, alarm bells should ring.
It's nitpicking, not contradiction. He starts with general guidelines and goes into details later.
@@Manweor Then that’s what he should say : “This is true in general, but there are exceptions, which I will expand upon later.” Self contradiction is how you detect a liar. Or, in this case, a charlatan.
I must say, I have watched a few of your videos for sometime and they are simply the best ever...thank you!
I am a little unique in that I was born with a pre-diabetic condition and have tried both strict whole foods vegan and clean keto diets to control my blood sugar issues. So I can give you a basic breakdown on how both worked for me.
Keto
Pros: Best blood sugar control (in a way) When you train your body to run on ketones blood glucose does not matter much at all so even if you get low you won't even notice. I have NEVER had a blood glucose issue of any sort while in ketosis. Most stable energy of any diet by far. Better cardio better sleep and far less cravings. Lost over 30lbs without ever counting calories and kept most of it off with annual cycles.
Cons: Hardest diet around to stick to since there are added carbs in nearly everything and carbs are more addictive than heroine, plus I cannot do it in the summer since I live in a hot climate and keto makes you more prone to dehydration issues and I work outdoors.
Other: Keto community is generally supportive and helpful although there are a few carnivore quacks hanging around that will swear by some absolutely crazy $#!^.
Vegan
Pros: Much easier to stick to since carb addiction is vastly stronger than any meat addiction could ever hope to be. The food is far better than I though it would be.
Cons: Much less blood glucose control than with keto although I have never had a severe issue while on vegan just minor ones that left me feeling shaky and drained. I never lost any weight on vegan like I did on keto.
Other: Vegan community is generally toxic as hell, I have never in my life seen such a flock of idiotic angry brainwashed sheep shouting absolute propaganda nonsense, that said there are a few gems in the community that are worth their weight in gold and more than make up for the other 90% being so freaking stupid, to be fair I am talking about the online community as I live in Texas and vegans here are as rare as frog fangs so the online community was all I had to go by, if you have real life vegans where you live your mileage may vary.
Overall I decided to cycle keto every fall and winter while going more plant based in the hot summer months, this might sound crazy but I have not had any life threatening issues since Aug of 2008 so it is clearly working for me. I have thought many times about a vegan keto cycle but vegans are VERY dogmatic about their diet must be high carb low fat and get mad if you even ask about doing something different.
Vegan and keto can both work, and they work for very different reasons. The vegan approach is to make the body more insulin sensitive improving overall stability. Keto works by reducing insulin itself and activating the body's backup metabolic system. If I had to choose one or the other I would have to say keto but bio-individuality is really a thing so your mileage may vary so try both if you are fighting with life threatening blood glucose issues. One thing for absolute certain the current SAD (Standard American Diet) of high carb, moderate fat and moderate protein with all of our trash seed oils and refined carbs is the absolute worst diet on the planet and anything that gets people away from that junk food I am all for. What I have learned is resistant starch, a wide variety of fiber, and clean fats (olive/coconut/avacado oil) as well as some animal fats are good while excess soy, corn and processed foods of all kinds are very very bad.
While you are on vegan diet … does it increase your A1c ?? Can you share your A1c value while on keto and when u are on vegan cycle of diet ?? Thanks
@merckxista No thanks, 7 years without watermelon sound like the second level of hell. That said I have twice tried long term strict vegan cycles with absolutely horrid results. It just does not work for people with my condition.
Corn is not bad, keto is bad, Just make it simple, eat a plant based diet, starchy meals, no meat, no dairy, no oils, you'll be fine.
@@jj-bp3fr Yeah except I tried that and had horrific results, consulted a vegan dietician, planned my meals and tried again with the same results, I was absolutely miserable on strict whole foods vegan diet. If my body cannot adapt to it after 30 days it is just not going to work.
Carbohydrates are sugar, starch and cellulose. Sugar and starch will spike blood sugars, that is the reason foods with carbs have GI. Protein too, will rise but in moderate.
Instead of trying to prove there is one size fits all one should talk about personalised diet, furthermore, it is about the amount we eat or we choose not to.
Thirdly…. There are number of other professionals talking for LCHF than these two mentioned as well as there are bunch of people for plant based or vegan
What most of pros agree, it is ultra processed foods we should avoid, that is refined carbs and vegetable oils … usually all the ‘packages foods’
Talking about personalised diet… i used to follow Nordic diet for all my life ( native Nordic), and i become T2D. Today I am vegetarian but I will avoid cereals and starchy foods, but I also need supplements, that is dairy and meat. Just because of few facts, we are omnivores, I couldn’t eat that much just veggies to become satiety but replacing proteins and fats more to sugars and starch would spike my glucose immediately. So my option is SH (RIP)….
FYI…. Summer 2023 they will publish new Nordic dietary guidelines and… based on initial information they have given up the food pyramid. Instead it looks pretty much than that in the US back in 50’s before Ansel Keys and his “7 county study”. No more that much carbs, but everything in moderate
Bon appetite!
Wow👍 Thank you Plant Chompers!
I've been diabetic Type 2 (provoked my Spiricort taken to suppress symptoms of Polymyalgia Rheumatic). I've kept records of how many carbs/day I've injested and my fasting blood sugar levels. In my specific case: when I restrict my diet to
One cloggs your arteries and one does not, nuff said 👍
Wrong.
Insulin is the problem.
Sugar and white flour is the real killers
You're using data from about 40 years ago.
New research shows the opposite.
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 True. Refined sugars, processed food, and perhaps more importantly excessive amounts of animal fat are the main problem based on the long-term findings. Some dietary nuances for individual profiles. Can't really deal in absolutes when it comes to diet.
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 which research? The one funded by the farming industry?
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 Plain and Simple. Most people like what is closer to what one eats. Eating plants is tough for most hence they are looking for the easier solution and immediately get seduced by a smart talker like Dr. Jason Fung who provides studies inaccurately to earn his livelihood
But it doesn't.
My eyes were starting to cross when he finally gave us the bottom line on which doctor he thinks has it right. It's exhausting! Thank you!
EXCELLENT post, thank you!
Great video, Wow good review on both sides . Thanks
It seems to me, that we just don’t know what the right diet is because it is difficult to lock up a large group of people for a year or so to make sure that they don’t deviate from the prescribed diets in order to do research.
What if the problem is neither low fat nor low carb?
What if the problem is combining fat and carbs?
If you just eat high fat and no carbs you’re fine, and if you eat high carbs and low fat, you are fine also. But if combine the two and you eat something like french fries, you’re in trouble. 🤔
well, I look at it this way. I'm elderly (65) and my regenerative and digestive system is not as strong, hence I would lean more towards the essential nutrients i.e. protein and fat. Carb (which is digested into glucose) is not an essential nutrient as our body is able to generate it via gluconeogenesis. Moreover with a weaker digestive system, I don't want to deal with all the Phytate, Tanin and Lectin present in most plants unless I have very complex digestive system such as cows and elephants.
You are right in highlighting High fats and High carb. Fats (saturated, short to medium chain triglycerides but avoid poly-unsaturated) stimulate the release of Ketones which signal your body to burn fats as fuel. Carb (which is digested into glucose) however stimulate the release of Insulin which signal your body to burn glucose as fuel. Further to that it also makes your body store any excessive glucose as triglycerides (a form of fats) initially in your liver and when it is full, they will be pushed out around the waistline and beyond.
So when you have high carb and High fats, your body had to choose which to use for fuel and which hormones should presides. In this situation, Insulin will preside because the body have to survive as High glucose have very detrimental effects to organs, tissues and nerves. Then any excessive glucose with be converted to fats for storage. Naturally the High fats you eat will pile on to that.
I check my glucose level after every meal since I was diagnosed with severe diabetes (HbA1C @ 13.1%) 2 years ago needing insulin injections daily and sulfonylurea drugs before every meal. I suffered for many months until I decided it ignore my nutritionist advice and pay attention to my glucometer. Now I'm getting better, blood markers, HbA1C and lipids analysis are all normal and I no longer need those daily injection and need only about 1/2 a pill for breakfast. Occasionally I do pop a pill if I'm prepared to have some fruits such as durian. My glucometer has been my saving grace.
I forgot to add, my HbA1C has gone down to 5.2%
Thank you very much for all your work and your honesty.
Your videos are always full of information, and interesting, always a good watch
LOVE these deep dives!! Great work!
To be clear, Nina Teicholz is not a scientist, she's a journalist and regarding the state of journalism today, it's hard to say if they're selling or informing.
PBN is a joke
Thank you, UA-cam Algorithm.....I was delighted to find this channel today. I appreciate your style, but really appreciate the science! I have added a few episodes to my watch list so you will now be joining me on my morning elliptical🙂
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful information!
This one of the best videos I have ever seen. Thank you.
A very good video, a lot is bravely tackled. Incidentally I too feel Dr. Neal Barnard and Dr. Michael Greger (whose book, 'How not do die' was mentioned but not his name) point out out a good way and seem convincing. Thank you for the useful and eminently shareable video.
Thanks! I only mentioned Dr. Greger's book in passing because it wasn't focused on diabetes, but it sure has an excellent section on it. Also, he makes the incredibly important point that eating plants doesn't just reverse diabetes, it addresses 15 diseases that are leading causes of death.
@@Viva-Longevity 👍🏼😊
I agree that Dr. Greger is great. And Neil Barnard, and Dean Ornish and Robert Lustig (rails against sugar).
Thank you for devoting so much time and energy to making this video! It’s so informative
Keep putting videos out PLEASE!!! This message is up against so much nonsense going on right now in our culture and media- keto, paleo, protein obsession, etc etc.. We Need to get this info out to people!!! Thank you for this amazing video
yes, most animals can camouflage themselves, run away or even fight back when predated upon. Plants just hang around waiting to be eaten with almost no defense. Nature is so unfair to plants .... tsk tsk tsk.
❤When I go to Mexico, the food, the vegetables, fruits, corn, they all taste so much more pure, have so much more flavor. Seriously, I cried bc the flavors made me enjoy food so much more, I felt so happy. ❤ There's a reason why Taco Bell was not successful in Mexico.
BRILLIANT , EXCELLENT , FABULOUS VIDEO !
I KISS THE GROUND YOU WALK ON !
I LOVE YOU !
GREAT WORK !
You like him🤭
Pigs are fed sugar in the form of processed foods. I worked in a Krisp Cream donut factory, the donuts that did not meet quality are sent to the pig farms.
I have a younger brother currently 65 years old with type 2. Eleven years ago he was convinced low carb was the answer. He just happened to have a calcium heart scan done at that time and his score was 147. He stayed low carb for five years and it did control his blood sugar fairly well. He had another scan done at that time and his score was just around the 400 level. His solution? Obviously, he wasn't low carb enough. To him it was excessive insulin and blood sugar causing his score to go up. So, he went Keto for the next three years. And the last two years he decided carnivore was the answer. What was unfortune was that his calcium score was now around 800. And eight month after the last scan he had six stents placed because he was short of breath walking from his house to the mail box and back. So yes, keto, carnivore and low carb did control his type 2 extremely well, but he's mortgaged his future health in the process.
Seed oil has a direct link to a plaque deposit, not the natural animal fats
this is why people with diabetes should seek out medical professionals and not come to their own conclusions based on little evidence!
Normal human behaviour unfortunately. When you invested so much effort and money into your diet it is very hard to accept that you are wrong. It is easier to believe the solution is to go more low carb to solve the problem.
Everyone's body is different so you have to do whats right for you.
Yeah like every canary and giraffe needs a special individual diet....
@@ceeemm1901We are far more complex than canaries and giraffe.
It is so good to finally hear someone try to give a balanced evaluation of the various “experts“, comparing the keto type diet to the plant-based whole food diet. No one is without bias but at least the comparisons were made.
Why do you put “experts” in quotes here? As if implying everyone who has something to say on a subject is of equal value
Thank you for clarifying! Hope u feel better
Loved this video and agree with the final assessment. Thanks you!
Keto often includes lots of vegetables....just low carb ones.
The problem with keto is people often don't know what they're doing and don't do it correctly!
Carbohydrates are absolutely fine as long as they are kept away from fat 😮..high carb works only if the fat is low 😊
Happy healthy vegan compared his blood work to Shawn Baker who is eating only meat. Shawn Baker was borderline diabetic even tho he was only eating meat while Happy Healthy vegan was eating no animal products and quite a bit of carbs. The proof is in the pudding 🤷🏻♀️
The proof is in the EATING of the pudding. In this case meat! 🤣
Sadly, Dr. Stancik past away from lung cancer. I feel sorry for the family.
I follow starch diet with lots of fruit and no SOS. Vegan for 17 years. BTW, you look great, Man! Thank you for your videos!
Which Dr. Stancik? Died. That's Sarah Holberg who had cancer.
Wait what.. halfway filming this video what exactly happened??
Yeah, I should have elaborated. Sorry about that. One doc thought I must've had food poisoning and come to think of it, it happened shortly after filming the doctor sequence in a building that had sat vacant because of Covid until we arrived. Without thinking, I drank the water from a fountain and noticed it tasted super rancid. Hmmm... The other doctor thought I may have developed a temporary inner ear thing that gave me intense vertigo. I had never experienced that before. But the good news is the EKG, blood pressure, yada, was all great.
@@Viva-Longevity ah glad all is well. It was so quick I thought I had misheard what you said. Great video 👍
@@GusTovGreat Yes, me too. The whole video was a bit too fast for me, but I put it on 75%, so it's ok. I guess i'm a bit slow that way, but I need time to think between sentences.
So he ate pulled pork and got a blood sugar spike? What did he eat with that? Bread? And was the pulled pork slathered in bbq sauce? All these things make a difference. You can’t just say that meat is bad based on that information.
Well diabetes type 1 and 2 should have a completely different name there is so much confusion on that, they are similar because the effects are literally the same but causes are so different that no one should give diet suggestion on Type 1 to treat Type 2 (I'm talking about the first doctor) Fung is a quack btw
I know, right? I hesitate to invest in any doctor who fails to distinguish between the two, or brushes Type One under the rug.
@@blessingsoutlaw It's true that something that works for type 1 can work too for type 2 (like... well... insulin obviously) and that sometimes the type 2 can devolve into type 1, and type 1 can have some sort of type 2 behaviour but really they should stop to call the two diabetes even with the same name, one is metabolic probability temporary insulin resistance the other is a pancreas chronic condition. "I have diabetes type 1 and fruit is bad for me, everyone with diabetes should not eat fruit" is hard to understand.
@@squarz Khambatta and Barbaro both have type 1 and eat lots of fruit. But I'm sure there can be individual differences.
Wrong; the same suggestion reverses both type 1 and type 2.
www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Reversal-of-type-1-diabetes-using-plant-based-diet%3A-Chowdhury/e19014ec84f07635e61b321addb3dfbb851a9635
«Type-1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease characterized by hyperglycemia, inability to produce insulin due to self-destruction of beta cells in the pancreas. The epidemic of type-1 diabetes causes irreversible suffering like retinopathy, nephropathy, neuropathy, foot complications, high blood pressure, etc, and put patients on a life sentence with insulin. The common perception in medical science is that sugar levels cannot be normalized without the help of medication. However, in the present study we examined a type 1 patient by putting her on a diet plan with regular follow ups and studied all diabetes-related biochemical parameters. We were successfully able to eliminate her medication and insulin dependency.»
I enjoyed your video. Thanks for making it!
Super job!!
Thank you.
Thank you for the video! I was just telling my significant other last night about how the Drs on UA-cam are coming at the same problem from opposite approaches. Also I just finished listening to the audio book Whole by T Collin Campbell. I’m going with majority plant based and unprocessed. I think I will get Dr Bernhardt’s cook book.
Eating a low fat, low meat high carb diet (mostly plants starches, rice etc.) is what gave me type two diabetes. So I think the question should be - High carb low fat - or low carb - keto and I choose the low carb (very very low carb) High meat and low fat.
Thank you so much for all your research and presentation.
Wow. Just wow. Well said on every front. My Dad keeps pushing Jason Fung lately and I am not good at arguing so there is no way I will get through to him about all of this. It really sucks. =(
All I know is when I eat a healthy meal of maybe chicken, potatoes, carrots and salad, if I put lots of butter on the potato and carrots, and am generous with an oil/vinegar dressing, I do not get hungry for hours later. If I skip the fat, skin my chicken (or eliminate it) and use fat free dressing on my salad, herbs on my potato and carrots, etc. I will be famished in a couple of hours. I think it is the combination of oils and REFINED carbs that do us in. I can eat a slice of toast with a lot of butter on it with my coffee, which has cream in it, and I am not hungry until much later in the day. But if you give me a slice of toast with scant butter or just jelly on it, and coffee with regular or skim milk, same thing happens. I get hungry. Protein helps to put a lid on hunger for me, but so does fat. If I have fat, I can skip wanting bread or dessert. I'm still experimenting with it. I am thinking that the body, when it feels fats coming in, it is thinking that all is well, and it doesn't have to send out hunger signals. But there is more to the picture, and I'm no chemist. I have tried the KETO diet and ended up craving carbs. Maybe it's a matter of natural whole foods, regardless of whether it is carb or not.
That dichotomy you mention nails it! Eat too little high fiber carbs on a keto or paleo etc. and your intestines get sluggish; eat too little fat on the other diets and you want to eat all the time 😂😂😂!
The latter syndrome I actually enjoy, but I’m probably “weird” - plus not everyone has a job or lifestyle where they can take such breaks.
But if I walk or work (including mental - not just physical - work), I don’t think about food whatsoever usually. It is when you stop working that hunger pangs can manifest too often.
Walking and other exercise (including weights if you want) really acts as a flywheel - at least for me. It smooths the whole system out. That is why I’ve enjoyed walking my whole life.
For me vegan ism and calorie counting are fun - although sometimes I get a little impatient measuring and weighing all my food. While I’ve never had any blood sugar or obesity problems, now that I’m in my mid sixties I finally went vegan after being vegetarian most of my life.
Good luck!!!!
This is fantastic, thank you!
Fantastic episode. Thank you so much.
The standard American diet is not low fat. It's a high fat/processed foot diet.
You’re typo made me picture a buffet of processed feet, lol
Low carb is not controversial. It is the species appropriate diet for human beings. What's controversial is the extreme low fat veganism that is being touted as a "cure".
That’s why everyone is confused about diet. This video needs to get viral
It’s very polarising. The Keto diet seems to appeal to those who want to lose weight and don’t want to give up meat.
This video is incredibly well done
So, Sarah Hallberg was praising keto diets while already suffering from cancer?
Yes, for four years… Personally, I’ve struggled with my feelings about this. On the one hand, I can understand her shock and grief and needing time. Also, she probably values her privacy. But she and Virta Health know how much science there is linking low carb diets to higher risk of cancer so you’d think they could do the same as drug companies and state the possible side effects. It sounds like Paula Dean not mentioning her diabetes meds.
On the other hand, Sarah seems convinced that low carb diets are healthy and she has a genetic predisposition.
@@Viva-Longevity Personally, I'm struggling with your feelings about why you would think Dr Sarah Halberg needed to announce to the world early on about her devastating disease which you know has nothing to do with her helping people reverse diabetes. As a force in the world of low carb to reverse type 2 diabetes, Dr Halberg selflessly continued teaching others her knowledge with great passion. Where are your studies to link low carb diets to lung cancer? Currently, we know that "elevated circulating insulin is a major factor in obesity, diabetes and cancer." As a T1D, I choose a healthy lifestyle eating whole real foods, very low carb, high protein, to keep circulating insulin low with excellent blood sugar levels.
@@Viva-Longevity Yeah, I agree. I am not here to demonize meat, but these mostly all meat diet can not be healthy. I think you can include some meat in the diet and be healthy. The problem is ppl eat far too much of it. Refined and processed carbs are horrible also.
I love Plant Chompers.
Wow! If you weren't confused before you watched this video, you certainly will be when you're done. Names, books, diets firing at you one after another at a pace that no normal person could process without going back and doing tons of independent research. Very little, if any actual science on why a particular diet is better, or worse.
One exception that was interesting was the part about the "Dorito effect". For a minute there the narrative slowed down a bit and I actually learned something.
I don't know if this was intentionally meant to be confusing, or if the creator just tried to cram too much information into too little time. Either way I'm just as much or more confused on what is a healthy diet as I was before.
0:49 -- Please define "ordinary person"?
This is a great little video
I know PBN may not 100% endorse margarine, but today there is margarine made from plant based oils, non hydrogenated and zero saturated fats. If compared to real dairy butter, which one is safer if eaten in low moderation ? Thanks !!
..butter. Vegetable oils aren't good for you no matter what they do with them. Butter also has Omega 3's in it.
I have read all four of these books and am carefully reading them again, while experimenting with various meals. I am 70 years old, prediabetic, but slim. So far, over the past six months, my weight, blood glucose and blood lipids have greatly improved on a low-carb, higher fat, adequate protein diet of WHOLE foods, mostly cooked at home. This is one commonality between these diets. They both stress real, not refined foods.
I forgot to add... much depends on where you start. An obese person is likely to have plenty of "gummed up" fat cells as Barnard and Khambatta claim. But I am at 18 percent body fat and now weigh what i did after graduating college in 1973... Thus, I have few gummed up fat cells.
yes, as we grow older our body re-generative process is less efficient and protein and fats are what we need most as main building blocks for repairs. Both are essential nutrients but not carbohydrates as it can be generated by our body under the process of gluconeogenesis. Older people also have a weaker digestive system and would not be able to handle most of those anti-nutrients e.g. Phytate, Tannin or Lectin common in non-poisonous plants. They are natural defense system of plants as they too do not want to be easily eaten. Hence herbivore have more elaborate digestive system and even so, their dungs are still classified as fertiliser as they are still nutrient packed (only semi-digested).
Sounds like you are listening to some dubious science, ie famous UA-camr, selling supplements, creams and potions. Fruits, vegetables, nuts and beans are not poisonous. No reputable cardiologist recommends more red meat, butter or saturated fat.
Very interesting videos! I play them at 75% speed. As Venezuelan my English is not that fast, but I enjoy them a lot
That was fantastic. At the end of 2020 I miraculously came through 17 years of horrendous pain. In the last 3. 5 years I have lost 40 kg. I had been insulin resistant for 50 years and was told many times I would end up a diabetic. I first tried the ketogenic diet and after going of all the pain medications I realised the pain had not gone. Yes I did lose a lot of weight. Then I did more research and started whole foods plant based and the pain left in 4 weeks. That was 8 months ago and I have never looked back. I love eating this way, have more energy, a clear head , no insulin resistant and feel so much gratitude for the life I have back. Pirkko from Queensland Australia
Monds are you still doing great on plant base diet
Did you find anything, please 🙏???
Please guide me as well.
My employer agency is threatening me if I could not prove that my sky high sugar is in tight control.
Please help guide !!!
Vegan for the ANIMALS ! 👵🌿
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Vegan for the attention... still glad I did it.
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@CJ P.
If I had the time and motivation to go out hunting, I'm fairly certain I'd be doing something meaningful for a living... rather than posting drivel on UA-cam... which is all I seem to do these days.
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My doctor recommended that I get a glucose monitoring patch ( free style Libre) to see which foods spike my glucose. I think that is great advice. It seems to me that what works for one person doesn’t necessarily work for another.
I look at it like this people in poverty can't afford meat yet are healthier that anyone with money ..
Isn't it ironic
Yes it is..
I sometimes wonder if that hasn’t always been the source of the problem. When I was a child in the 1960s, food was expensive, especially meat; and meals were heavily starched based: lots of potatoes, or rice, or pasta, depending on where you were from.
As we got wealthier, or food got cheaper, we ate more meat, fish, eggs, & dairy. And we started getting fat.
Processed food has been the scapegoat for a while, but maybe animal products are equally to blame.
I do find it a lot easier to keep my weight down on a vegan diet.
@@pmw3839 my dad would always tell me when he was a kid all they ate mainly was corn beans rice and cactus meat was considered a delicacy
@@pmw3839 absolutely. The government subsidizing the meat industry has made it a more affordable & attractive option. Wonder why they’re so willing to foot that expenditure... Also, I just spent over a year unable to walk thanks to injury. Yet, I barely gained any more than 2-3lbs. Gained more weight in my most active/athletic times when I was eating grilled chicken daily. Results are clear
Thank you for such a great info. ❤
I tried the keto and lost weight but my cholesterol nearly killed me and felt the dangers in my neck. It felt like someone was choking me constantly. When I saw the numbers above 300 I went plant based which led to loose bowel movements. Today, I feel younger and more energy after going almost plant based and no joint pain anymore
Cholesterol doesn't kill. It's like blaming the bandage in an hospital for patient dying. Come to 21st century science, this is not the 80s. We know cholesterol has a little role in CVD. Sugar and inflammation are to blame
@@kulata there's a difference between fibrous carbs and refined carbs. And refined carbs are part of the problem but not the whole story. Oils can contribute to immflammation just as much as sugar. And yes, that includes olive oil. I've experienced this myself. Fibrous carbs and moderate amounts of healthy plant fats like nuts and seeds don't do this. It's a shame that there was a market pushing thr more the better on olive oil. That's a death sentence.
If this person is doing better with a plant based diet, let him or her do it.
@@kulata Yes and the AHA has already remove the cholesterol limits from their dietary guidelines several years back ...
@@vallye470 my parents do usually get 100% extra virgin olive oil though. And I got acid reflux from consuming too much before.
Plus, my mom had stomach issues after 3 tablespoons of coconut oil.
If anyone has problems with healthy carbs, it's most likely gut issues from parasites and toxins.
Would chemical agriculture also affect the flavour of food? I find organic produce is often more flavourful.
I quit animal products except for the occasional slice of cheese and fish but for the most part it’s plant based and intermittent fasting for me. I’m 72 years old 10 years ago I was a big animal product consumer then I was diagnosed with colon cancer and I was also type 2 diabetic I went plant based right after that and my colonoscopy this year was perfect diabetes down to pre diabetic no medication needed weight is almost perfect great bowl movement and much better sleeps as well. No one can tell me what you guys are consuming is doing you any good. It may help you in some ways but kill you in others I wish some of you at least will open your eyes