Don’t discount those of us with southern accents! Most of us are converts. If the Baptists hadn’t been such jerks, I would not have found the true church! We are loyal, drive 4 hours to the Temple but our testimonies are strong and sure. And we are all armed 😂😂😇 here in the mountains of NC.
Agreed. I understand where they’re going with the satire and criticism of this idiot, but it’s not very nice to make fun of people because of the way they speak because people cannot necessarily help where they grew up or how they learned to speak. This is my one and only criticism that I am going to throw at these guys in full force because they need to take this one on the chin. It does not represent the church And it does not represent church members well when you criticize other people because of their differences. Christ never did that. It is not Christlike to criticize others because of where they are from or to make caricatures and use excessively colorful language to be right, and diminish other people. This is the type of thing that drove me away from the church many years ago and I don’t like seeing it here. I am from the south, and I have a lot of buried, devout Christian ancestors. Some of them were Baptist and others were from other faiths, including Catholic. My mother was a convert, but because of the ridiculousness and self centered and device of nature of all the social clicks in the church many years ago, I went away from the church, and fell into many years of apostasy and living a bad lifestyle, partially because people in the church who ridiculed me for who I was, drove me away because of their Conceitedness. I made the choice on my own a few years ago to head back into the church because I realized it wasn’t about other people. It was about the Lord and his word and the truth. There are still people that I meet at church that I don’t like because of the way that they treat other people but that is between them andheavenly father. I will worry about me and they can worry about themselves. Please don’t make characters about people from other parts of the country, though guys… It’s not very becoming.
@@Goobicon4507 the thing to remember is that a lot of the people who immigrated to the southern half of North America during the time of early America history did so, because they just wanted to live the simple lives of farmers, have their own piece of land and be able to live in peace, and raise a family. they didn’t want conflict or war or taxes or being ruled and oppressed the way their ancestors had been. A number of them became friends and neighbors with the Native American people that were in the area, while others lashed out in fear of having what little they had just gotten taken away from them, even though they were living on someone else’s land, technically. My ancestors came to North America in 1678. I am a direct descendent of many families that were so-called “colonizers “that came here because they were being oppressed or had nothing left in the “old world” so they took a chance and came to a land they did not know. They were Christians, they were farmers, locksmiths, carpenters, planters, craftsmen, sailors, and merchants. They explored the New World and found that it was not new at all. Only new to them. I am proud to be descended from so many people who were so courageous and risked everything to come here. Many times they have rest much to stand up for what they believed was important. That kind of spirit is what made the United States of America. The opposite kind of spirit is what is tearing it apart and watering it down turning it into a week and wicked nation, which goes directly against what the Lord said we should do. If people have not picked up on the very severe warnings that we are being given right now, then they do not have eyes to see nor ears to hear, and they are a wicked and abominable generation that will get what is coming to them. That includes people in the church, who are worse than the rest. They have knowledge and a certain level of understanding or at least they are supposed to… That others do not have. Maybe I’m wrong about that. After all of the versions are going to be welcomed into the marriage feast. Those odds are pretty shocking. I have known a number of people in the church that do not represent the values of Christ, nor are they my friends because I do not keep company with serpents that speak with a fork tongue. There are also wonderful people in the church who are exactly the type of people that Christ loves. We should all be thinking about which one we are. It doesn’t matter whether you live in the north, the south, the east, the west, America, or Canada, or any other nation. What matters is where your heart is. Is your heart with the Lord, or is it in the world?
I've watched some of Spencer smiths videos, and as a life long protestant , he has some bizarre beliefs about the Bible. I couldn't watch him , because he makes my blood boil. So picking apart his videos is super easy. Makes for a good easy show for you guys. 🤣
Is it just me or is the attacks on the church ramping up? Seems like evangelicals, that’s never mentioned us before, are making videos about Mormons. Meanwhile, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is stronger than ever. Inactives are returning, many that left altogether are returning and being rebaptized (like me), and convert baptisms are higher than it’s been in years. They are threatened. More converts for us = less money for these priestcraft pastors.
I'm a descendant of Mormon pioneers, and Kwaku is as much or more Mormon as any of us. This is part of why Kwaku is a beloved fan favorite. Mega Chad Defender of the Faith.
Most of their “debunking” is just ad hominems and not actually calling out anything but just arguing semantics and trying to criticize the person’s character or looks LOL
A guy I was shadowing for PT school found out I was LDS and tried to destroy my faith. He literally said that the extermination order was justified and should be intact to this day to deter us from spreading our heresy
@@Corderito72 yeah, well if you ever run in to anyone like that again explain to them two passages from the D&C. D&C 98:13 "And whoso layeth down his life in my cause, for my name’s sake, shall find it again, even life eternal." If you die living/administering the gospel you are promised exaltation. Now the shocking part, D&C 103:25-27 "25 And whomsoever ye curse, I will curse, and ye shall avenge me of mine enemies. 26 And my presence shall be with you even in avenging me of mine enemies, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. 27 Let no man be afraid to lay down his life for my sake; for whoso layeth down his life for my sake shall find it again." If you die avenging the Lord of his enemies (either in self defense or even offensively when he commands it) you are promised exaltation. I think most people with a brain would back off supporting the violent persecution of members once they are informed of these scriptures; especially if we as members actually believed these scriptures.
That guy is not very smart. Their was an Apostasy of the Church after the Apostles all were killed and died off. Perhaps he never read the Prophesy of Amos. AMOS 8:11-12 11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord: 12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
Imagine scoffing at the great apostasy, while also being a protestant who believes that "the church" needed reformation from fallen and corrupt beliefs....
Hey now!!! Some of us true believing, testimony bearing, temple working, mission serving, but above all followers of our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, have the same accent. 😉
They’ll respond with the Mountains Meadow Massacre and try to equivocate that to the Haun’s Mill Massacre. Both bad but apples to oranges if you understand the context and who the perpetrators were.
If I didn't know any better, I would think he is a comedian. Everything he said is so ludicrous it made me laugh. If you haven't seen videos by David Alexander, you should check them out. He shares his lived experience trying to find truth and light in Evangelical and other Christian churches, for 47 years, until he finally decided to find out about the LDS church. He makes a very good claim that Evangelicals create atheists.
As Elvis sang, “A little less conversation & a little more action.” I hope there’s a part 2. You guys barely scratched the surface of what this clown was throwing down.
@@Lashah-f1f want to test that theory? We’re disrespectful for responding to attacks on our beliefs??? We’re Christ New Testament church restored, we love the Bible. It’s in our canon and most members have a better knowledge than their evangelical counterparts (backed up by a pew research study)
@@Lashah-f1fTry me on Bible knowledge. I could teach you plenty. Make sure you give God the Glory. While you may read it like a man made novel, we Latter-Day Saints will read it with spiritual mindset guided by the Holy Spirit that teaches all God’s truth and bears witness.
Many evangelicals state that we started it by Joseph being told that "all other religions" were an abomination. But that is not accurate at all. If you read it closely, the words Christ used were "their creeds" were an abomination. He did not infer that the people, the leaders, or the religious sects themselves were an abomination. We are grateful for then Love and devotion to the Savior that individuals from all Christ loving people have. Truth does not belong to one religion. Truth is truth and belongs to all people. We love the restoration, and are happy to share our joy and passion for it. But we also allow others to worship as they my, and our kindness, love, and compasions have no baring on individuals decision to join the church in the timeline we think they should. God knows where all of us are. And His desire is to save all His children that will be saved.
This is not true on two points. I preached for two years on my mission that the LDS church DID have the monopoly on truth, and that everyone ought to join. I'm not going to have people like you gaslight me into thinking the church hasn't taught this it's whole existence. Also, please tell me how "their creeds" and "their religions" are abominations are different. Creed just means belief. It's the same.
@@joshvaughan3403 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has the authority of God and more truth with the full Gospel (to date, even though the Lord will continue to reveal more as we are ready). However, every religion and denomination has some truth. Truth does belong to everyone, but not everyone is willing to accept further truth beyond that which they have. The abomination of the Nicene Trinity is the main creedal abomination that Jesus Christ noted. It was added to scripture in the 4th century and further developed over the next 1000 years. It is not scriptural. The One (or The Other) of Plato was wed to the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost at Nicea and beyond. I used to believe that concept of God as a Catholic and then Evangelical until I found out how non-scriptural that is. Here is a number of quotes from non-Church of Jesus Christ scholars who have done some excellent studies on the topic: It is clearly impossible (if one accepts historical evidence as relevant at all) to escape the claim that the later formulations of dogma cannot be reached by a process of deductive logic from the original propositions and must contain an element of novelty. Wiles, Making of Christian Doctrine, p. 4. The emergence of the full trinitarian doctrine was not possible without significant modification of previously accepted ideas. Wiles, Making of Christian Doctrine, p. 144. there is no trinitarian doctrine in the Synoptics or Acts. (in the New Testament) nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead. in John there is no trinitarian formula. Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 14, 16, 29. These passages give no doctrine of the Trinity, but they show that Paul linked together Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They give no trinitarian formula...but they offer material for the later development of trinitarian doctrine. ...(Paul) has no formal trinitarian doctrine and no clearcut realization of a trinitarian problem, but he furnishes much material for the later development of a trinitarian doctrine. Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 22-23. There is no formal doctrine of the Trinity in the New Testament writers, if this means an explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. But the three are there, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and a triadic ground plan is there, and triadic formulas are there....The Biblical witness to God, as we have seen, did not contain any formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, any explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 32, 35. The formal doctrine of the Trinity as it was defined by the great church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries is not to be found in the New Testament. P. Achtemeier, ed., Harper's Bible Dictionary, p. 1099. This double series of texts manifests Paul's lack of clarity in his conception of the relation of the Spirit to the Son. Paul shares with the OT a more fluid notion of personality than the later theological refinements of nature, substance, and person. His lack of clarity should be respected for what it is and be regarded only as the starting point of later development. J. Fitzmyer, Pauline Theology: A Brief Sketch, p. 42. Trinitarian discussion, Roman Catholic as well as other, presents a somewhat unsteady silhouette. Two things have happened. There is the recognition on the part of exegetes and Biblical theologians, including a constantly growing number of Roman Catholics, that one should not speak of Trinitarianism in the New Testament without serious qualification. There is also the closely parallel recognition on the part of historians of dogma and systematic theologians that when one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century. R.L. Richard, "Trinity, Holy," in New Catholic Encyclopedia 15 vols., 14:295. There is in them (the Apostolic Fathers), of course, no trinitarian doctrine and no awareness of a trinitarian problem. Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, p. 44. The Church had to wait for more than three hundred years for a final synthesis, for not until the Council of Constantinople (381) was the formula of one God existing in three coequal persons formally ratified. J.N.D. Kelly, Early Christian Doctrines, pp. 87-88. Where the doctrine (of the Trinity) was elaborated, as e.g. in the writings of the Apologists, the language remained on the whole indefinite, and, from a later standpoint, was even partly unorthodox. Sometimes it was not free from a certain subordinationism. F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone, eds., The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, 2nd ed., p. 1394. It (subordinationism) is a characteristic tendency in much Christian teaching of the first three centuries, and is a marked feature of such otherwise orthodox Fathers as St. Justin and Origen. F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone, eds., The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, 2nd ed., p. 1319. (the passage at John 4:24) is not an essential definition of God, but a description of God's dealing with men; it means that God is Spirit toward men because he gives the Spirit (xiv 16) which begets them anew. There are two other such descriptions in the Johannine writings: "God is light" (1 John i 5), and "God is love" (1 John iv 8). These too refer to the God who acts; God gives the world His Son, the light of the world (iii 19, viii 12, ix 5) as a sign of His love (iii 16). Raymond E. Brown, The Gospel According to John, p. 172. The God of the Hebrew Bible is very different from the supreme God of Plato or Aristotle. The former is an anthropomorphic being capable of anger, joy, and other emotions, who created the world and continues to direct human affairs. The God of the philosophers, however, was a much less human and much more abstract figure, incapable of emotion, and far removed from the daily concerns of humanity. Many Jews tried to combine these two conceptions, or, more precisely, to reinterpret the God of the Bible in the light of the ideas of the philosophers, especially Plato....This approach to scripture was developed even further by Origen, Ambrose, and other fathers of the church. Shaye J.D. Cohen, From Maccabees to the Mishnah, vol. 7 of the Library of Early Christianity, p. 44.
@suem6004 He didn't call the sects an abomination, just the creeds. The creeds wedded to God of Plato to the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost of scripture, thus removing Heavenly Father from being our Father as noted in the Bible to being an genderless, unemotional, unembodied, metaphysical essence outside of everything noted about Him and Them in scripture. Truly an abomination to lose and distort our real relation to and relationship with Him.
The Baptist church down the street from our stake center used to hold classes about how to contend with “Mormons”. You could feel the antipathy in the air.
60 years ago I read a book called "Papa Married a Mormon" in which the author, as a child, when asked who was in the Trinity responded -- Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and the angel Moroni.
Bro read the Koran and the Hadiths, "radical islam" is not radical because the Koran and Hadiths don't support it, it is radical because most Muslims don't actually follow what the Korean and Hadiths say. The Koran is not the Bible or book of Mormon both of which were written by multiple people over a very long period of time. The Koran was narrated by one guy over a very short period of time and anything that conflicts with parts given earlier supersedes those earlier parts. The Koran is like the D&C except the Koran is arranged by the length of the passages not by when they were given to Mohammad. That is why the "radicals" can ignore all those nice peaceful verses because they were revealed before the violent verses and thus are abrogated.
I live in Alabama. There are Latter Day Saints in Alabama, I am a member. Just thought I would say that. My mom bought a hat for my birthday but, my birthdays Saturday can't get it till then. Yall saying someone's going to shoot me or something? What that guy said about Joseph being shot is awful. If Billy Graham got shot would he like us saying well they took care of him huhuhu. Assuming he likes Billy Graham i don't know who he likes. Sounds like a pretty picky dude so i don't know. I love Kwaku don't care what they commentars say.
As a Missourian that has also lived the South, how in the world can you consider Missouri to somehow be leaps and bounds worse than Kentucky???? Yeah sure buddy, Kentucky definitely doesn't have a major drug issue too... Btw the vast majority of people in the South are kind and great people so please don't think this guy represents everyone in the South because he's very much in the minority. I've had much better experiences talking about my faith in Missouri and the other places I've lived in the South and Midwest than out West.
Personally, I have had nothing but very bad experiences speaking with anyone about religion who has an accent like this guy. And I've spoken with a lot of them.
I've lived all over the US, and the stuff I heard from evangelicals in my native So Cal growing up was about the same anti dribble arguments that I heard in Louisiana or Georgia or Kentucky. Just had an accent.
@conjonpo1896Southern hospitality is a thing. bigoted remarks by some lds. The Book of Mormon is true and is a stand alone book that rips on the lds hard! God bless
@@wes2176 I think he’s trying to say that there are a lot of members of the LDS church that are total hypocrites. They do not practice what they preach. I can confirm that this does happen sometime. It is because of hypocritical members of the church many years ago that I decided to leave the church and go elsewhere, seeking greener pastures and good, old-fashioned fellowship so that I didn’t have to feel bad about being who I was… A person from the south with a southern accent. I don’t think the accent was what did it though, it’s because I wasn’t part of the club., Now in the southern states, there is a resurgence of strength in the church of Jesus Christ of the latter-day Saints that is surpassing even the Midwest. because we truly believe. There are a lot of members of the church in the Midwest that are lukewarm and members in name only but not in how they exercise their faith. If people are going to be ripping on southerners here, I’m gonna fire a shot right back at you. There is no place in the Lord’s church for this kind of foolishness and small minded bigotry. we are all children of God and we except that we have differences or we don’t.
That whole channel is full of half-truths and lies. He is a deceiver, telling exaggerations and playing on peoples emotions. This isn’t error. There is plenty of weird stuff about us to question in honest sincerity. As funny as his video is, it is also extremely saddening that people respect him, believe him and donate to his hypocrisy.
@@haloblokbuster7991 Well, the fact that you question that makes me wonder what you think an about Ward Radio. Spencer Smith’s channel. Ward Radio has a whole different set of complaints! 😂
lol, I still can’t believe Spencer Smith thought he got arrested for his own protection lol. You’re trig he. It doesn’t take that much research to find out the truth and how Poor Joseph was assassinated.
Plz play @ least 1 min of a clip before pausing and talking for 15mins. If you want to attack southern evangelicals fine but dont act like you're debunking videos you only play 20seconds of. They'll say you didn't address their points. You're doing the same thing Jeff Durbin does in his debunking videos 🙄 with just more mocking.
@WARDRADIO if that's all you got from my comments then you missed the point. The clip was only short because you played a fraction of the videos, you're acting like it was a 7 second youtube short ha
@@WARDRADIOI normally don’t comment but you completely missed on your comment. If the counting is accurate then the point is we don’t want to go watch the other guys video, and then have to come back to you guys watching less than 2 minutes of a long video and barely “debunking” anything. I understand demonetization but you need to either hire someone or have someone volunteer to keep you guys on track or don’t call it a debunking dude. This is exactly what anti Mormons do to us (ex Jeff Durbin vs Jacob Hansen) so we’re meant to go above that. I watch these for scriptural, logical, and historical refutations of these people’s terrible logic and claims. I understand you claim to be comedians and before you say it no I don’t have my own show, but that doesn’t make criticisms invalid. Let’s not fall into the caste system
@wes2176 surely this isn't directed towards me. Avid watcher of this, cwic media, thoughtful faith and lifelong active member. You can't say members are taken advantage of for being too nice (something Cardon rails against and which I agree) and in the same breath when some constructive criticism or pushback is brought about how they go about "debunking" (exactly like Jeff durbin does from apologia where they clip 10second clips and talk for an hour) call members anti 🙄 I understand you don't know the intent and history of commenter's but engage with the argument smh
Many Evangelical Christians today would castigate Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, Deitrich Bonhoffer, A. W. Pink, and A. W. Tozer and other great theologians of their time.
There were nations with laws prior to Mohamed & yes not everything he did was bad, but as Islam gained more strength it became more violent. You guys love making fun of southern Americans for their slaves. Mohamed thinks slavery is ok, as long as they aren’t Muslim. Also regarding the comments of “well they sacrificed people & things were so violent prior to Islam”. Christians love saying this about pagans too & the fact is, we don’t have a lot of info about many of these areas prior to Islam. So we just don’t know if that’s true or not. I’m getting that info mostly from people who were raised Muslim & are from the ME, but don’t really practice that much & it tracks with me, European Christians say the same thing about pre-Christianity.
I think you guys need to become a bit more educated on what you talk about, if you mean what you say that “we don’t want to do to ppl what’s done to us”. Evangelicalism is a wide net, Pentecostals who are part of them, are the fastest growing religion in America right now. So when you say “they have nothing to offer no one is interested”. You sound ignorant. I know this isn’t supposed to be an intelligent scholarly type show, but you should still try & be in the framework of what’s true & not true. You can still debunk or make fun of ppl, while speaking truth. If not you just sound like you’re coping,
Bro, they are solely focused on evangelism not the branch offs. Also if I’m right they mentioned the Pentecostals in the term of growing fast. But there research isn’t gibberish at all. They spend hours researching. You might be the ignorant one this time.
It's not right to blame the south for our persecution, it's more accurate to just blame "the east." It wasn't southerners that had the church move from New York, from Ohio, or from Illinois. If anything our persecution in Missouri was just your general precursor violence of bleeding Kansas which perpetrated by both northerners and southerners. I also believe Brigham Young attributed the Civil War's collective bloodshed as having been a kind of calamity to befall the east coast, as in many ways it was equally bloody for the north. I say all that because I don't like southerner-bashing and we shouldn't bash them for what northerners did also.
This may be one of Kwakus best commentary! I live in St. George and he nailed it. Also Kwaku in the apocalypse I’ll help you seal up the Virgin River gorge to stop the las vegans.😂
All I had to hear was lighthouse. There is one of these groups in Utah that produced an anti-lds DVD when I was 12 or 13 and left them on every door in my hometown. They must have put some serious money into that one.
Kwaku had me until he said "we are mountain men". The words don't match the skinny city boy wearing a fake dime store mustache! 😂 Love you though Kwaku! Keep it up!
Clarification on the Confederates; they came through New Mexico but plans were not clear had they succeeded in capturing Fort Union. They may have gone to Denver for the silver there or to California for a sea port. The Church had nothing to do with the campaign other than SLC being a possible layover. There was, it seems, maybe even a thought that the Church would help the Confederates since the Church was still upset over the Utah War
Humor can often be a great way to disarm these people and their hyperbolic descriptions and straw man arguments. I appreciate you also doing this in a Christ like , and no nonsense way
Guys, guys... didn't you get it? This guy is a meme! He is a comedian! He is not for real. He can't be. THAT HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF STANDUP GIG OS SOMETHING!
I mean, according to Genesis, the Garden of Eden is between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. In other words, it's in Iraq, a country I suspect this guy has opinions about, none positive.
@@carsonhawkes Well, sometimes pushing things to the limit can be fun... but in response to this one I'd say we believe in forgiving as well as defending. 22:50
33:00 Slaying unbelievers in accordance with Koran Surah 9 is basically human sacrifice. I wouldn't push the "Islam ended human sacrifice" angle too hard.
I don't like priestcraft and I don't like Spencer Smith. Joseph Smith is a prophet and no one can do anything about it. Joseph and many other early saints are martyrs. I'm from Texas and didn't have a denomination, but I'm grateful for true Prophetic and Apostolic leadership and the Sheepherding of Christ
I would like to point out that not all evangelicals are like that. Dallas Jenkins, the creator, and Director of the chosen is an evangelical and is vastly different than the ones you’re talking about. He also has many friends from our church and I saw an interview with him by an evangelical like the mall cop guy who was trying to get him to say that we were all going to hell and he refused to say anything bad about our church or the members.
Yes, got some great friends unfortunately there’s plenty UA-camrs making jam outta hate. I remember missionary tracking back in the 80/90s you’d get hate and throwback at doors now it’s online
I just went to the Lighthouse Baptist Church website. It says that they are a "KJV Bible Believing Church". So....If you prefer a different translation, you are a heathen? "We believe that God has preserved His very words in the transmission of His Word as found in the Greek Textus Receptus. We believe that the Bible as we have it today in the King James Version is the Word of God in the English language and in a sense that cannot be said of any other translation." I have to ask why that particular translation is perfect and all others are flawed. I also have to point out that this minister must therefore also believe that no one can be saved unless they speak English. Their Beliefs page states that "...salvation is “by grace” plus nothing and minus nothing. The conditions to salvation are repentance and faith," but yet, " the two ordinances of the church are baptism of believers by immersion, and the memorial of the Lord’s supper until He returns. Neither ordinance is required for salvation - both are done as acts of obedience." So, there would appear to be two required acts of obedience even though grace alone is sufficient. Methinks they did not fully think this out. I also noted that they believe "justification is an eternal relationship that can never be broken," which implies that once a person is baptized and keeps taking communion, they can do anything they want and still live forever with God.
That was more of a "joking rant" than an actual "Debunking"..... I'm okay with some "Entertainment" guys, but you need to STOP calling shows "Debunking" when you're doing VERY LITTLE actual "Debunking". Either rename your shows like this or get some "disciplined structure" in your format and show. You're wasting our time... and you're NOT making yourselves look good to THEM and their followers either. There needs to be SUBSTANCE included in your joking around.
Then do it yourself. Make a UA-cam channel debunking every single point from every single anti-Mormon video. What's stopping you? These Evangelical "pastors" are a joke, so it's only appropriate to treat them as such.
It’s so ironic that this channel criticizes those of the evangelical right but pretty much espouses many its same socio-political ideologies. I love it, though! Keep it going!
I went back and counted the total runtime of his clips you played. At 35 minutes in Cardon claimed you'd listened to, "A SOLID 3 OR 4 MINUTES" it was a grand total of 52seconds. (29sec/11sec/12sec). LET THIS BE A WAKE UP CALL you overestimated your engagement with the clips 4x what reality was. I want you guys to improve and get your message out there. Here's an area for improvement.
After the 35min mark 3 more times a portion of a video is shown for a total of drumroll..32 seconds (16,10,6seconds) dude you didn't even get to 2minutes of his crap over the whole near 50min "debunking". Then you say if you felt you've been misrepresented come on. I don't agree or like the guy but who in their right mind after being mocked for almost an hour and playing less than 2mins of random clips would want to come talk with you? 😩 call them dunking on people not debunking.
Ummm bro... you know what editing is, right? When you get off your high horse long enough to learn some basics of editing and production, maybe you'll understand why your critique doesn;t quite land. But, then again.... based on your finger-wagging, I doubt you think you have any room to learn and we are just "below" you and your elevated moral caste. So.... you just keep doing you and thinking you're morally superior to everyone else.
@WARDRADIO @WARDRADIO if you're suggesting the parts where you actually thoroughly listened to and debunked him were edited out, then ok? But Even kwaku said at 35min you'd listened to like 5 of his words so guess he doesn't know about editing and production too?? critique doesn't equally moral posturing or pretending to be better, you can't just write off any valid criticism as finger wagging, trolling or haters. I've watched for years, am an active member, watch cwic, Jacob, and you guys.
@@WARDRADIOthe best/most engaging/most entertaining/most important aspect of the video is the debunking aspect. The best way to show a debunking is to play a clip then address, play a clip and address. Play a clip and address. I get you have to clickbait but it’s every video. You don’t actually debunk anyone. And this is coming from someone who actively debates and engages in these discussions with people. I understand you shoot for entertainment and humor but then don’t even play a video or mention him. Just say “hey I heard some guy say this” and then make fun of it. Practically the same thing with the lack of time you actually spend watching the video.
@@WARDRADIO the thing is even that 52 seconds wasn't worth responding to. The whole episode should have been cut. In the end you didn't add light or knowledge; you had nothing to work with. It felt like you were punching down and making fun of the special needs kid.
I just half to point out that the temple is not the prettiest, at least that picture he showed. Iv don't mind the other temple architecture. Just that one.
Rather timely me thinks in relation to the Priesthood ban the people hate talking about. Be great to get Kwakus take on this. When I heard this I thought that if a man was of African descent, a member of the church and living in that area, if he had been murdered the person or persons who murdered him would be free because of the extermination order. Am I correct or not? And no, I do not mean to stir up hard feelings and pain. I do know that all blessings are eternal and cannot be kept from faithful and covenant keeping brothers and sisters. ❤
Django unchained being a truly terrible film for terrible people aside. Mohamed Did not end Human sacrifice, he simply made it part of government. He ended up creating a religion that has by Estimate, and this is The SMALL estimate, Killed at least 1 billion people worldwide, not counting Possible generations. There are entire civilizations we have no information of other than the Islamic record of their genocide by Islam forces and maybe archeological evidence to be dug up. This is well documented by their own texts. Irrefutable to any one who does any research into this. I have not in all of my years of actually looking into religions, Holy texts, Apocrypha, Listening to people telling me their real life experiences, and looking into statistics ever found any verifiable redeeming qualities about Islam. Please Do research into it. Understand it before you offer it any praise. Verify the things I have typed here. Do not get me wrong There are many good people in the religion But I will condemn the actual religion and any of its offshoots as truly an evil creation that if allowed to continue unchecked will see to every ones misery by force of arms. It is as a poison in the veins everywhere it goes.
Don’t discount those of us with southern accents! Most of us are converts. If the Baptists hadn’t been such jerks, I would not have found the true church! We are loyal, drive 4 hours to the Temple but our testimonies are strong and sure. And we are all armed 😂😂😇 here in the mountains of NC.
Agreed. I understand where they’re going with the satire and criticism of this idiot, but it’s not very nice to make fun of people because of the way they speak because people cannot necessarily help where they grew up or how they learned to speak. This is my one and only criticism that I am going to throw at these guys in full force because they need to take this one on the chin. It does not represent the church And it does not represent church members well when you criticize other people because of their differences. Christ never did that. It is not Christlike to criticize others because of where they are from or to make caricatures and use excessively colorful language to be right, and diminish other people. This is the type of thing that drove me away from the church many years ago and I don’t like seeing it here. I am from the south, and I have a lot of buried, devout Christian ancestors. Some of them were Baptist and others were from other faiths, including Catholic. My mother was a convert, but because of the ridiculousness and self centered and device of nature of all the social clicks in the church many years ago, I went away from the church, and fell into many years of apostasy and living a bad lifestyle, partially because people in the church who ridiculed me for who I was, drove me away because of their Conceitedness. I made the choice on my own a few years ago to head back into the church because I realized it wasn’t about other people. It was about the Lord and his word and the truth. There are still people that I meet at church that I don’t like because of the way that they treat other people but that is between them andheavenly father. I will worry about me and they can worry about themselves. Please don’t make characters about people from other parts of the country, though guys… It’s not very becoming.
Good stuff!
I served a mission in Louisiana. Southerners were some of the most faithful and kind people I ever met. We're blessed to have you!
@@Goobicon4507 🌝
@@Goobicon4507 the thing to remember is that a lot of the people who immigrated to the southern half of North America during the time of early America history did so, because they just wanted to live the simple lives of farmers, have their own piece of land and be able to live in peace, and raise a family. they didn’t want conflict or war or taxes or being ruled and oppressed the way their ancestors had been. A number of them became friends and neighbors with the Native American people that were in the area, while others lashed out in fear of having what little they had just gotten taken away from them, even though they were living on someone else’s land, technically. My ancestors came to North America in 1678. I am a direct descendent of many families that were so-called “colonizers “that came here because they were being oppressed or had nothing left in the “old world” so they took a chance and came to a land they did not know. They were Christians, they were farmers, locksmiths, carpenters, planters, craftsmen, sailors, and merchants. They explored the New World and found that it was not new at all. Only new to them. I am proud to be descended from so many people who were so courageous and risked everything to come here. Many times they have rest much to stand up for what they believed was important. That kind of spirit is what made the United States of America. The opposite kind of spirit is what is tearing it apart and watering it down turning it into a week and wicked nation, which goes directly against what the Lord said we should do. If people have not picked up on the very severe warnings that we are being given right now, then they do not have eyes to see nor ears to hear, and they are a wicked and abominable generation that will get what is coming to them. That includes people in the church, who are worse than the rest. They have knowledge and a certain level of understanding or at least they are supposed to… That others do not have. Maybe I’m wrong about that. After all of the versions are going to be welcomed into the marriage feast. Those odds are pretty shocking. I have known a number of people in the church that do not represent the values of Christ, nor are they my friends because I do not keep company with serpents that speak with a fork tongue. There are also wonderful people in the church who are exactly the type of people that Christ loves. We should all be thinking about which one we are. It doesn’t matter whether you live in the north, the south, the east, the west, America, or Canada, or any other nation. What matters is where your heart is. Is your heart with the Lord, or is it in the world?
I've watched some of Spencer smiths videos, and as a life long protestant , he has some bizarre beliefs about the Bible. I couldn't watch him , because he makes my blood boil. So picking apart his videos is super easy. Makes for a good easy show for you guys. 🤣
If u can't watch then why are u?
@crenshawize probably in the same rrason why people look at car accidents. The carnage is terrifying, but the mind is curious.
Is it just me or is the attacks on the church ramping up? Seems like evangelicals, that’s never mentioned us before, are making videos about Mormons. Meanwhile, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is stronger than ever. Inactives are returning, many that left altogether are returning and being rebaptized (like me), and convert baptisms are higher than it’s been in years. They are threatened. More converts for us = less money for these priestcraft pastors.
We make good click-bait for their channels.
@@bemorebetter5343 as a LDS this video feels like punching down. I'm only at 28:32 but haven't heard anything worth responding to
Also, I have seen great people joining the Church in the past two years, and many of them are well-informed about the anti-Mormon arguments.
I'm a descendant of Mormon pioneers, and Kwaku is as much or more Mormon as any of us. This is part of why Kwaku is a beloved fan favorite. Mega Chad Defender of the Faith.
Ahhh yes my favorite part of Ward radio is back, Kwaku and debunking videos
"debunking" you mean
@@someotherplanetband4248 well if calling out lies is not debunking, than what does debunking mean?
@@GwPoKo guess it depends who's side you're on.
Most of their “debunking” is just ad hominems and not actually calling out anything but just arguing semantics and trying to criticize the person’s character or looks LOL
Seriously!
A guy I was shadowing for PT school found out I was LDS and tried to destroy my faith. He literally said that the extermination order was justified and should be intact to this day to deter us from spreading our heresy
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Yikes😬
@@Corderito72 yeah, well if you ever run in to anyone like that again explain to them two passages from the D&C.
D&C 98:13
"And whoso layeth down his life in my cause, for my name’s sake, shall find it again, even life eternal."
If you die living/administering the gospel you are promised exaltation.
Now the shocking part,
D&C 103:25-27
"25 And whomsoever ye curse, I will curse, and ye shall avenge me of mine enemies.
26 And my presence shall be with you even in avenging me of mine enemies, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.
27 Let no man be afraid to lay down his life for my sake; for whoso layeth down his life for my sake shall find it again."
If you die avenging the Lord of his enemies (either in self defense or even offensively when he commands it) you are promised exaltation.
I think most people with a brain would back off supporting the violent persecution of members once they are informed of these scriptures; especially if we as members actually believed these scriptures.
Sounds very Christ-like
By this shall men know ye are my disciples if ye have love one to another
How endearing
That guy is not very smart. Their was an Apostasy of the Church after the Apostles all were killed and died off. Perhaps he never read the Prophesy of Amos.
AMOS 8:11-12
11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
well said
Imagine scoffing at the great apostasy, while also being a protestant who believes that "the church" needed reformation from fallen and corrupt beliefs....
Hey now!!! Some of us true believing, testimony bearing, temple working, mission serving, but above all followers of our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, have the same accent. 😉
Ah but you're not criticizing the church 😂
Please get rid of the 2 minute intros and just get into it, or at max a 30 second intro. But love the actual content!
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They’ll respond with the Mountains Meadow Massacre and try to equivocate that to the Haun’s Mill Massacre. Both bad but apples to oranges if you understand the context and who the perpetrators were.
That wasn't a rogue operation.
If I didn't know any better, I would think he is a comedian. Everything he said is so ludicrous it made me laugh. If you haven't seen videos by David Alexander, you should check them out. He shares his lived experience trying to find truth and light in Evangelical and other Christian churches, for 47 years, until he finally decided to find out about the LDS church. He makes a very good claim that Evangelicals create atheists.
I love Southern accents and know many good LDS southerners. My husband is from Mississippi.
They have a very soft and rounded accent in Missisippi. Very pleasant to listen to.
As Elvis sang, “A little less conversation & a little more action.” I hope there’s a part 2. You guys barely scratched the surface of what this clown was throwing down.
Shhh don't say that Cardon will get mad and call you names
@@carsonhawkesI’m sorry Cardon!
I’d love to debate Spencer, it would be battle of the southern accents.
You guys are disrespectful and don't know your Bible
@@Lashah-f1f want to test that theory? We’re disrespectful for responding to attacks on our beliefs??? We’re Christ New Testament church restored, we love the Bible. It’s in our canon and most members have a better knowledge than their evangelical counterparts (backed up by a pew research study)
@@Lashah-f1fTry me on Bible knowledge. I could teach you plenty. Make sure you give God the Glory. While you may read it like a man made novel, we Latter-Day Saints will read it with spiritual mindset guided by the Holy Spirit that teaches all God’s truth and bears witness.
I would suggest you don't know it as well as you think.
@@lemjwp1756you have zero idea how much or little ProdigalSonMatt knows
Self righteous, Bible bashing, Southern Evangelical, from the Bible Belt.
Bless his heart. 😅
I can't stand them
My name is Spencer Smith.... Is this my evil Twin?
Well, if anything, he’s your angry twin.
I'm going out on a limb here abs saying he's Mirror Universe you.
Sorry brotha, I don’t make the rules but I think since you have the same name, by logical extension you are literally him 🤷♂️
When Kwaku said Quakers I thought he was talking about his people or something for a sec
Many evangelicals state that we started it by Joseph being told that "all other religions" were an abomination. But that is not accurate at all.
If you read it closely, the words Christ used were "their creeds" were an abomination.
He did not infer that the people, the leaders, or the religious sects themselves were an abomination.
We are grateful for then
Love and devotion to the Savior that individuals from all Christ loving people have. Truth does not belong to one religion. Truth is truth and belongs to all people.
We love the restoration, and are happy to share our joy and passion for it. But we also allow others to worship as they my, and our kindness, love, and compasions have no baring on individuals decision to join the church in the timeline we think they should. God knows where all of us are. And His desire is to save all His children that will be saved.
This is not true on two points. I preached for two years on my mission that the LDS church DID have the monopoly on truth, and that everyone ought to join. I'm not going to have people like you gaslight me into thinking the church hasn't taught this it's whole existence.
Also, please tell me how "their creeds" and "their religions" are abominations are different. Creed just means belief. It's the same.
@@joshvaughan3403 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has the authority of God and more truth with the full Gospel (to date, even though the Lord will continue to reveal more as we are ready). However, every religion and denomination has some truth. Truth does belong to everyone, but not everyone is willing to accept further truth beyond that which they have.
The abomination of the Nicene Trinity is the main creedal abomination that Jesus Christ noted. It was added to scripture in the 4th century and further developed over the next 1000 years. It is not scriptural. The One (or The Other) of Plato was wed to the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost at Nicea and beyond. I used to believe that concept of God as a Catholic and then Evangelical until I found out how non-scriptural that is. Here is a number of quotes from non-Church of Jesus Christ scholars who have done some excellent studies on the topic:
It is clearly impossible (if one accepts historical evidence as relevant at all) to escape the claim that the later formulations of dogma cannot be reached by a process of deductive logic from the original propositions and must contain an element of novelty.
Wiles, Making of Christian Doctrine, p. 4.
The emergence of the full trinitarian doctrine was not possible without significant modification of previously accepted ideas.
Wiles, Making of Christian Doctrine, p. 144.
there is no trinitarian doctrine in the Synoptics or Acts.
(in the New Testament) nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead.
in John there is no trinitarian formula.
Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 14, 16, 29.
These passages give no doctrine of the Trinity, but they show that Paul linked together Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They give no trinitarian formula...but they offer material for the later development of trinitarian doctrine.
...(Paul) has no formal trinitarian doctrine and no clearcut realization of a trinitarian problem, but he furnishes much material for the later development of a trinitarian doctrine.
Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 22-23.
There is no formal doctrine of the Trinity in the New Testament writers, if this means an explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. But the three are there, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and a triadic ground plan is there, and triadic formulas are there....The Biblical witness to God, as we have seen, did not contain any formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, any explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons.
Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 32, 35.
The formal doctrine of the Trinity as it was defined by the great church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries is not to be found in the New Testament.
P. Achtemeier, ed., Harper's Bible Dictionary, p. 1099.
This double series of texts manifests Paul's lack of clarity in his conception of the relation of the Spirit to the Son. Paul shares with the OT a more fluid notion of personality than the later theological refinements of nature, substance, and person. His lack of clarity should be respected for what it is and be regarded only as the starting point of later development.
J. Fitzmyer, Pauline Theology: A Brief Sketch, p. 42.
Trinitarian discussion, Roman Catholic as well as other, presents a somewhat unsteady silhouette.
Two things have happened. There is the recognition on the part of exegetes and Biblical theologians, including a constantly growing number of Roman Catholics, that one should not speak of Trinitarianism in the New Testament without serious qualification. There is also the closely parallel recognition on the part of historians of dogma and systematic theologians that when one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century.
R.L. Richard, "Trinity, Holy," in New Catholic Encyclopedia 15 vols., 14:295.
There is in them (the Apostolic Fathers), of course, no trinitarian doctrine and no awareness of a trinitarian problem.
Edmund J. Fortman, The Triune God: A Historical Study of the Doctrine of the Trinity, p. 44.
The Church had to wait for more than three hundred years for a final synthesis, for not until the Council of Constantinople (381) was the formula of one God existing in three coequal persons formally ratified.
J.N.D. Kelly, Early Christian Doctrines, pp. 87-88.
Where the doctrine (of the Trinity) was elaborated, as e.g. in the writings of the Apologists, the language remained on the whole indefinite, and, from a later standpoint, was even partly unorthodox. Sometimes it was not free from a certain subordinationism.
F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone, eds., The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, 2nd ed., p. 1394.
It (subordinationism) is a characteristic tendency in much Christian teaching of the first three centuries, and is a marked feature of such otherwise orthodox Fathers as St. Justin and Origen.
F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone, eds., The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, 2nd ed., p. 1319.
(the passage at John 4:24) is not an essential definition of God, but a description of God's dealing with men; it means that God is Spirit toward men because he gives the Spirit (xiv 16) which begets them anew. There are two other such descriptions in the Johannine writings: "God is light" (1 John i 5), and "God is love" (1 John iv 8). These too refer to the God who acts; God gives the world His Son, the light of the world (iii 19, viii 12, ix 5) as a sign of His love (iii 16).
Raymond E. Brown, The Gospel According to John, p. 172.
The God of the Hebrew Bible is very different from the supreme God of Plato or Aristotle. The former is an anthropomorphic being capable of anger, joy, and other emotions, who created the world and continues to direct human affairs. The God of the philosophers, however, was a much less human and much more abstract figure, incapable of emotion, and far removed from the daily concerns of humanity. Many Jews tried to combine these two conceptions, or, more precisely, to reinterpret the God of the Bible in the light of the ideas of the philosophers, especially Plato....This approach to scripture was developed even further by Origen, Ambrose, and other fathers of the church.
Shaye J.D. Cohen, From Maccabees to the Mishnah, vol. 7 of the Library of Early Christianity, p. 44.
@@JD-pr1etgreat documentation, thx!
You all forget. The First Vision was a dialog. Joseph did call the sects an abomination. God did.
@suem6004 He didn't call the sects an abomination, just the creeds. The creeds wedded to God of Plato to the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost of scripture, thus removing Heavenly Father from being our Father as noted in the Bible to being an genderless, unemotional, unembodied, metaphysical essence outside of everything noted about Him and Them in scripture. Truly an abomination to lose and distort our real relation to and relationship with Him.
This was hands down the best episode of the past year. We need to turn Kwaku's rant into our battle-cry. 😂😂😂
The Baptist church down the street from our stake center used to hold classes about how to contend with “Mormons”. You could feel the antipathy in the air.
Wow, It's hard to follow when someone jumps from one illogical point to another, and then three more within the same sentince with lightning speed.
60 years ago I read a book called "Papa Married a Mormon" in which the author, as a child, when asked who was in the Trinity responded -- Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and the angel Moroni.
That has to be satire 😂
Bro read the Koran and the Hadiths, "radical islam" is not radical because the Koran and Hadiths don't support it, it is radical because most Muslims don't actually follow what the Korean and Hadiths say.
The Koran is not the Bible or book of Mormon both of which were written by multiple people over a very long period of time. The Koran was narrated by one guy over a very short period of time and anything that conflicts with parts given earlier supersedes those earlier parts.
The Koran is like the D&C except the Koran is arranged by the length of the passages not by when they were given to Mohammad.
That is why the "radicals" can ignore all those nice peaceful verses because they were revealed before the violent verses and thus are abrogated.
Great comment.
They even have a radio station promotion on their church.
WIOP 95.1FM
Too close to IHOP. Automatically disqualified.
They always say it was about polygamy but really it was all about slavery
"crumpet-humpers" - I'm using this
4:14 lmaooo kwaku nailed the Houston lunch table
I live in Alabama. There are Latter Day Saints in Alabama, I am a member. Just thought I would say that. My mom bought a hat for my birthday but, my birthdays Saturday can't get it till then. Yall saying someone's going to shoot me or something? What that guy said about Joseph being shot is awful. If Billy Graham got shot would he like us saying well they took care of him huhuhu. Assuming he likes Billy Graham i don't know who he likes. Sounds like a pretty picky dude so i don't know. I love Kwaku don't care what they commentars say.
Arkansas saint here! I can relate
Couldn’t help it but read your post in a southern accent. God bless you brother. You peeps would cop it in the south
@@elk2804 Well that;'s probally how it would sound. lol
As a Missourian that has also lived the South, how in the world can you consider Missouri to somehow be leaps and bounds worse than Kentucky???? Yeah sure buddy, Kentucky definitely doesn't have a major drug issue too... Btw the vast majority of people in the South are kind and great people so please don't think this guy represents everyone in the South because he's very much in the minority. I've had much better experiences talking about my faith in Missouri and the other places I've lived in the South and Midwest than out West.
Personally, I have had nothing but very bad experiences speaking with anyone about religion who has an accent like this guy. And I've spoken with a lot of them.
I've lived all over the US, and the stuff I heard from evangelicals in my native So Cal growing up was about the same anti dribble arguments that I heard in Louisiana or Georgia or Kentucky. Just had an accent.
@conjonpo1896Southern hospitality is a thing. bigoted remarks by some lds. The Book of Mormon is true and is a stand alone book that rips on the lds hard! God bless
@@westonwoodbury3011 Not following you at all.
@@wes2176 I think he’s trying to say that there are a lot of members of the LDS church that are total hypocrites. They do not practice what they preach. I can confirm that this does happen sometime. It is because of hypocritical members of the church many years ago that I decided to leave the church and go elsewhere, seeking greener pastures and good, old-fashioned fellowship so that I didn’t have to feel bad about being who I was… A person from the south with a southern accent. I don’t think the accent was what did it though, it’s because I wasn’t part of the club., Now in the southern states, there is a resurgence of strength in the church of Jesus Christ of the latter-day Saints that is surpassing even the Midwest. because we truly believe. There are a lot of members of the church in the Midwest that are lukewarm and members in name only but not in how they exercise their faith. If people are going to be ripping on southerners here, I’m gonna fire a shot right back at you. There is no place in the Lord’s church for this kind of foolishness and small minded bigotry. we are all children of God and we except that we have differences or we don’t.
I believe Mr. Smith is an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist, which even mainstream Evangelicals see as cultish.
To their credit IFB's are also very anti-Calvinist.
@kwaku looks like he could play a young Steve Harvey in Netflix biopic
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The AntiMos are not sending their best
That whole channel is full of half-truths and lies. He is a deceiver, telling exaggerations and playing on peoples emotions. This isn’t error. There is plenty of weird stuff about us to question in honest sincerity. As funny as his video is, it is also extremely saddening that people respect him, believe him and donate to his hypocrisy.
Wait? Who’s channel? Spencer smiths or ward radio?
@@haloblokbuster7991 Well, the fact that you question that makes me wonder what you think an about Ward Radio. Spencer Smith’s channel. Ward Radio has a whole different set of complaints! 😂
I mean, just look at the guy. He might as well be wearing a T-shirt which reads, "I Am A Degenerate, But Love Me Anyway."
Kwakuel killing it 😂
Ward Radio vs the closed-minded closed canon dogmatic Pharisees and Sadduccees!
Naw Mormons are the closed minded ones
Indeed!
@@someotherplanetband4248 No way, man, you are!!!
Wow! This guy is CRAZY! Unbelievable!!!
He was arrested for his own protection😂 that's why he said he was going like a lamb to the slaughter. Doesn't take much research.
lol, I still can’t believe Spencer Smith thought he got arrested for his own protection lol. You’re trig he. It doesn’t take that much research to find out the truth and how Poor Joseph was assassinated.
Trying to be an edgy standup comedian and grift your flavor of Christianity = Spencer Smith.
You are the funniest fellows ever!! I love y'all!!! Too, too cute!!!
Plz play @ least 1 min of a clip before pausing and talking for 15mins. If you want to attack southern evangelicals fine but dont act like you're debunking videos you only play 20seconds of. They'll say you didn't address their points. You're doing the same thing Jeff Durbin does in his debunking videos 🙄 with just more mocking.
So youre angry we had a conversation based off a short clip?
@WARDRADIO if that's all you got from my comments then you missed the point. The clip was only short because you played a fraction of the videos, you're acting like it was a 7 second youtube short ha
@@WARDRADIOI normally don’t comment but you completely missed on your comment. If the counting is accurate then the point is we don’t want to go watch the other guys video, and then have to come back to you guys watching less than 2 minutes of a long video and barely “debunking” anything. I understand demonetization but you need to either hire someone or have someone volunteer to keep you guys on track or don’t call it a debunking dude. This is exactly what anti Mormons do to us (ex Jeff Durbin vs Jacob Hansen) so we’re meant to go above that. I watch these for scriptural, logical, and historical refutations of these people’s terrible logic and claims. I understand you claim to be comedians and before you say it no I don’t have my own show, but that doesn’t make criticisms invalid. Let’s not fall into the caste system
WR sure got the Antis riled up with this one. Good job, boys!!
@wes2176 surely this isn't directed towards me. Avid watcher of this, cwic media, thoughtful faith and lifelong active member. You can't say members are taken advantage of for being too nice (something Cardon rails against and which I agree) and in the same breath when some constructive criticism or pushback is brought about how they go about "debunking" (exactly like Jeff durbin does from apologia where they clip 10second clips and talk for an hour) call members anti 🙄 I understand you don't know the intent and history of commenter's but engage with the argument smh
Many Evangelical Christians today would castigate Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, Deitrich Bonhoffer, A. W. Pink, and A. W. Tozer and other great theologians of their time.
He does not speak for all Southerners
There were nations with laws prior to Mohamed & yes not everything he did was bad, but as Islam gained more strength it became more violent. You guys love making fun of southern Americans for their slaves. Mohamed thinks slavery is ok, as long as they aren’t Muslim. Also regarding the comments of “well they sacrificed people & things were so violent prior to Islam”. Christians love saying this about pagans too & the fact is, we don’t have a lot of info about many of these areas prior to Islam. So we just don’t know if that’s true or not. I’m getting that info mostly from people who were raised Muslim & are from the ME, but don’t really practice that much & it tracks with me, European Christians say the same thing about pre-Christianity.
I think you guys need to become a bit more educated on what you talk about, if you mean what you say that “we don’t want to do to ppl what’s done to us”.
Evangelicalism is a wide net, Pentecostals who are part of them, are the fastest growing religion in America right now. So when you say “they have nothing to offer no one is interested”. You sound ignorant. I know this isn’t supposed to be an intelligent scholarly type show, but you should still try & be in the framework of what’s true & not true. You can still debunk or make fun of ppl, while speaking truth. If not you just sound like you’re coping,
I think they are focused solely on evangelism. There are distinctions between Pentacotalism and Evangelism.
Bro, they are solely focused on evangelism not the branch offs. Also if I’m right they mentioned the Pentecostals in the term of growing fast. But there research isn’t gibberish at all. They spend hours researching. You might be the ignorant one this time.
Nits grow into lice
It's not right to blame the south for our persecution, it's more accurate to just blame "the east." It wasn't southerners that had the church move from New York, from Ohio, or from Illinois. If anything our persecution in Missouri was just your general precursor violence of bleeding Kansas which perpetrated by both northerners and southerners. I also believe Brigham Young attributed the Civil War's collective bloodshed as having been a kind of calamity to befall the east coast, as in many ways it was equally bloody for the north. I say all that because I don't like southerner-bashing and we shouldn't bash them for what northerners did also.
This may be one of Kwakus best commentary! I live in St. George and he nailed it.
Also Kwaku in the apocalypse I’ll help you seal up the Virgin River gorge to stop the las vegans.😂
Hey! I love the gorge and going to southern Utah! Please don’t seal it up. 😂
All I had to hear was lighthouse. There is one of these groups in Utah that produced an anti-lds DVD when I was 12 or 13 and left them on every door in my hometown. They must have put some serious money into that one.
Kwaku had me until he said "we are mountain men". The words don't match the skinny city boy wearing a fake dime store mustache! 😂 Love you though Kwaku! Keep it up!
The concept of the trinity came mostly from the formation of the Nicene creed. This guy is way off, obviously did not do his research.
Some time you should do an episode about how you all met each other
Clarification on the Confederates; they came through New Mexico but plans were not clear had they succeeded in capturing Fort Union. They may have gone to Denver for the silver there or to California for a sea port. The Church had nothing to do with the campaign other than SLC being a possible layover. There was, it seems, maybe even a thought that the Church would help the Confederates since the Church was still upset over the Utah War
Humor can often be a great way to disarm these people and their hyperbolic descriptions and straw man arguments. I appreciate you also doing this in a Christ like , and no nonsense way
Guys, guys... didn't you get it? This guy is a meme! He is a comedian! He is not for real. He can't be. THAT HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF STANDUP GIG OS SOMETHING!
I believe the word you are looking for is douche bag. As in, 'this guy is a'.
🔥- kwaku at his best!
Please can u add links to this Guys Video
22:00 kwakus right
Guys I get it but man, we gotta allow each other to get their point in. Gotta quit interrruptingneachnother.
I mean, according to Genesis, the Garden of Eden is between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. In other words, it's in Iraq, a country I suspect this guy has opinions about, none positive.
Yesss! I recommend this reaction forever ago 😂
And it will come in a day when they shall say that miracles are done away
it was fun... until you guys went off the rails on this one.
Isn't that every video?
@@carsonhawkes Well, sometimes pushing things to the limit can be fun... but in response to this one I'd say we believe in forgiving as well as defending. 22:50
Is there a link to the Statement by the First Presidency: God's Love for all Mankind?
I can't post links but you can go on LDS dot org and simply type into the search bar and it comes up. It's scanned from the 1970's...
33:00 Slaying unbelievers in accordance with Koran Surah 9 is basically human sacrifice. I wouldn't push the "Islam ended human sacrifice" angle too hard.
love that paypal logo he's got
Kwaku at his finest 🥹🍿
The lymph mob pastor looks like the Mississippi bishop in the opening video still of him.
I don't like priestcraft and I don't like Spencer Smith. Joseph Smith is a prophet and no one can do anything about it. Joseph and many other early saints are martyrs. I'm from Texas and didn't have a denomination, but I'm grateful for true Prophetic and Apostolic leadership and the Sheepherding of Christ
It’s so weird that he would bash Missouri!?!?
I would like to point out that not all evangelicals are like that. Dallas Jenkins, the creator, and Director of the chosen is an evangelical and is vastly different than the ones you’re talking about. He also has many friends from our church and I saw an interview with him by an evangelical like the mall cop guy who was trying to get him to say that we were all going to hell and he refused to say anything bad about our church or the members.
Swing and a miss. All Evangelicals are like this.
He's been flayed by about a dozen evangelicals on camera for being too nice to Mormons.
Dallas is a gem, I wish more evangelicals would follow his example
Yes, got some great friends unfortunately there’s plenty UA-camrs making jam outta hate. I remember missionary tracking back in the 80/90s you’d get hate and throwback at doors now it’s online
Try talking to his evangelical fans who have yelled the most bigoted, obscene things at me.
I don't know, but the garden of eden is in Venezuela.
I just went to the Lighthouse Baptist Church website. It says that they are a "KJV Bible Believing Church". So....If you prefer a different translation, you are a heathen? "We believe that God has preserved His very words in the transmission of His Word as found in the Greek Textus Receptus. We believe that the Bible as we have it today in the King James Version is the Word of God in the English language and in a sense that cannot be said of any other translation." I have to ask why that particular translation is perfect and all others are flawed. I also have to point out that this minister must therefore also believe that no one can be saved unless they speak English.
Their Beliefs page states that "...salvation is “by grace” plus nothing and minus nothing. The conditions to salvation are repentance and faith," but yet, " the two ordinances of the church are baptism of believers by immersion, and the memorial of the Lord’s supper until He returns. Neither ordinance is required for salvation - both are done as acts of obedience." So, there would appear to be two required acts of obedience even though grace alone is sufficient. Methinks they did not fully think this out.
I also noted that they believe "justification is an eternal relationship that can never be broken," which implies that once a person is baptized and keeps taking communion, they can do anything they want and still live forever with God.
I always find it cringe when Non-Mormon Pastors or people try to “debunk” Mormonism. Leave that to us Exmos that at least know what we’re saying.
lol
That was more of a "joking rant" than an actual "Debunking"..... I'm okay with some "Entertainment" guys, but you need to STOP calling shows "Debunking" when you're doing VERY LITTLE actual "Debunking".
Either rename your shows like this or get some "disciplined structure" in your format and show. You're wasting our time... and you're NOT making yourselves look good to THEM and their followers either.
There needs to be SUBSTANCE included in your joking around.
Dude, hush.
Then do it yourself. Make a UA-cam channel debunking every single point from every single anti-Mormon video. What's stopping you?
These Evangelical "pastors" are a joke, so it's only appropriate to treat them as such.
It’s so ironic that this channel criticizes those of the evangelical right but pretty much espouses many its same socio-political ideologies. I love it, though! Keep it going!
It's so ironic that people who hate Mormonism continue to come here. It's almost as if you can leave the religion, yet not leave it alone.
I don't think Spencer Smith is brave enough to be on Ward Radio.
Concerning to the comments around 24 minites in, Whatever, there are laws, federal and state. The church would do nothing.
32:00 yep! Mohommed was a prophet that wasn’t perfect just like Brigham Young and every prophet that has ever been
Kwaku is back… YES!
Im going to debunk this dude;
He is going bald.
Man I got him good.
there is no recovering 😂
I went back and counted the total runtime of his clips you played. At 35 minutes in Cardon claimed you'd listened to, "A SOLID 3 OR 4 MINUTES" it was a grand total of 52seconds. (29sec/11sec/12sec). LET THIS BE A WAKE UP CALL you overestimated your engagement with the clips 4x what reality was. I want you guys to improve and get your message out there. Here's an area for improvement.
After the 35min mark 3 more times a portion of a video is shown for a total of drumroll..32 seconds (16,10,6seconds) dude you didn't even get to 2minutes of his crap over the whole near 50min "debunking". Then you say if you felt you've been misrepresented come on. I don't agree or like the guy but who in their right mind after being mocked for almost an hour and playing less than 2mins of random clips would want to come talk with you? 😩 call them dunking on people not debunking.
Ummm bro... you know what editing is, right? When you get off your high horse long enough to learn some basics of editing and production, maybe you'll understand why your critique doesn;t quite land. But, then again.... based on your finger-wagging, I doubt you think you have any room to learn and we are just "below" you and your elevated moral caste. So.... you just keep doing you and thinking you're morally superior to everyone else.
@WARDRADIO @WARDRADIO if you're suggesting the parts where you actually thoroughly listened to and debunked him were edited out, then ok? But Even kwaku said at 35min you'd listened to like 5 of his words so guess he doesn't know about editing and production too?? critique doesn't equally moral posturing or pretending to be better, you can't just write off any valid criticism as finger wagging, trolling or haters. I've watched for years, am an active member, watch cwic, Jacob, and you guys.
@@WARDRADIOthe best/most engaging/most entertaining/most important aspect of the video is the debunking aspect. The best way to show a debunking is to play a clip then address, play a clip and address. Play a clip and address. I get you have to clickbait but it’s every video. You don’t actually debunk anyone. And this is coming from someone who actively debates and engages in these discussions with people. I understand you shoot for entertainment and humor but then don’t even play a video or mention him. Just say “hey I heard some guy say this” and then make fun of it. Practically the same thing with the lack of time you actually spend watching the video.
@@WARDRADIO the thing is even that 52 seconds wasn't worth responding to. The whole episode should have been cut. In the end you didn't add light or knowledge; you had nothing to work with. It felt like you were punching down and making fun of the special needs kid.
This old boy would fit right into 'Deliverance'.
Oh, he's got a strong southern accent. why am I not surprised.
Wow....I live im Mo now. Ouch... LOL. MO IS BEAUTIFUL!
That accent. That _has_ to be a parody. Right?
Yay for Kwaku!! Love his impersonations and thoughts
Andrew Jackson is from Tennessee fam
Come on. Jesus water sliding down the community of Christ Temple into Kansas City is pretty funny!
Sure…. As a stand alone joke, maybe… in conjunction with all the other stuff… not so much.
Not really. I know he THOUGHT he was being funny. But, nope, a swing and a miss.
@@wes2176 it was a clever bit 100%
@@Cyle-1 Clever if you're in third grade.
@@Cyle-1 What's he going to do next, the frog in the blender bit?
He's probably a direct descendant of Joseph or Hyrum! 🎉
I just half to point out that the temple is not the prettiest, at least that picture he showed. Iv don't mind the other temple architecture. Just that one.
This guy makes me really want to join his little priestcraft/business ‘church’ so I can be superior too !! 😊. 🤮
@@wes2176 guy.
@@jasonchatham4170 Oh, all good.
It's so ironic that Kwaku's head is filled with Protestant lies about the Catholic Church.
I am so sorry ❤
I don't see Paul Blart...... looks more like Mississippi Nick ate Mississippi Nick.
Lololol
@WARDRADIO Ole Mississippi Nick be missing that creatine sacrament concoction 😂😂😂
Where’s the discord link
There was a law on the books in Missouri. The Extermination Order was repealed 20 or 25 years ago.
I believe it was 1975
Rather timely me thinks in relation to the Priesthood ban the people hate talking about. Be great to get Kwakus take on this. When I heard this I thought that if a man was of African descent, a member of the church and living in that area, if he had been murdered the person or persons who murdered him would be free because of the extermination order. Am I correct or not? And no, I do not mean to stir up hard feelings and pain. I do know that all blessings are eternal and cannot be kept from faithful and covenant keeping brothers and sisters. ❤
Django unchained being a truly terrible film for terrible people aside.
Mohamed Did not end Human sacrifice, he simply made it part of government. He ended up creating a religion that has by Estimate, and this is The SMALL estimate, Killed at least 1 billion people worldwide, not counting Possible generations. There are entire civilizations we have no information of other than the Islamic record of their genocide by Islam forces and maybe archeological evidence to be dug up. This is well documented by their own texts. Irrefutable to any one who does any research into this.
I have not in all of my years of actually looking into religions, Holy texts, Apocrypha, Listening to people telling me their real life experiences, and looking into statistics ever found any verifiable redeeming qualities about Islam. Please Do research into it. Understand it before you offer it any praise. Verify the things I have typed here. Do not get me wrong There are many good people in the religion But I will condemn the actual religion and any of its offshoots as truly an evil creation that if allowed to continue unchecked will see to every ones misery by force of arms. It is as a poison in the veins everywhere it goes.
This was gold 🤣