@@GaryMcKinnonUFO "So when you do the math, you end up with about 39000g in volume worth of titanium powder., and when you translate that into Kilograms you get about 39Kg of powder"....
I love how the part almost looks organic. It now suddenly makes sense why so many sci-fi movies have alien ships that look more like an insect hive than a machine.
you can thank HR giger in part for that heavy influence in biomechanical feel. Nature is pretty crazy and in alot of ways sci fi influences us when it comes to designing things.
@@Mike-jv8bv It’s not exactly because of that but because of efficiency and purpose built support causing that bio- feel as every segment has been stress tested and confined to get the most use out of each piece of material
@@RoflcopterLamo the more complex certain things get the more of an organic shape they start to take on. Which is interesting. you should take a look at neural networks. the connections look very organic.
The open source aspect has me excited. Typically in the past, AI part design software was bordering on half the cost of the machine you'd be printing on, and the tech to run it.
Interesting that there is a visible crack on the part. Without the cutaway, you'd never know it was there. At 5:52 where it overlays the words "NO SUPPORT" on the screen, you can see the crack directly above the 'O' in SUPPORT.
Yep… that part if completed without the cutaway would have shredded under pressure and likely blown up the engine in the process. I also noted that the part required substantial finishing as there were jagged edges along various openings that would have likely broken off and potentially damaged the injectors later or the engine… 3D printing is amazing… glossing over errors only undermines confidence
@@MacKeyser Is there a possibility that the crack appeared because they printed a section view of the part? I wonder if the 'AI' is able to not just design the part, but also do the relevant stress analyses.
I mean it's clearly just a display piece. Im sure the procedure would have been slightly more operator support centric if they were actually making the part for a project. The point of this was to show off the AI's ability to design parts, not whether or not the printer could handle it all on its own.
The future's going to be very interesting with AI design, 3D printing and modern materials making it possible to manufacture perfectly optimized parts.
So practically humans will become or already are becoming useless. Or even a threath to further evolution of technologies. Once we start don't like where the progress is going we will try to stop it or limit it while AI will disagree with our primitive decisions.
@@bobdylan1968really? Who wrote the AI program? What algorithms is the AI using to optimize the design? The AI can only do what it is programmed to do within the parameters it is allotted.
Feel like replicators are the main reason that Earth got to do away with currencies and enter a utopian society. Big tech tree upgrade to say the least lol.
Star Trek aside, my favorite part was seeing the printed model in action. It was truly astounding and drew my attention towards watching this as 3d printing titanium, or anything for that matter, wasn't fully within my scope of interest, as I've never immersed myself in the technological aspect of this art, but seeing this in action brought my mind to a whole new plateau of wonderment on the concept of possible diy applications in this realm of creation. Bravo!
I am really excited to see what kind of engine blocks you could design this way. Lighter, with more optimized passages for oil and coolant and tighter tolerances for more efficiency.
Definitely looks like a Hyperganic part! This elevates the role of engineers to the next level and you guys did such a fantastic job at printing and presenting it. Moving in the right direction! 🤯
How does this elevate the role of engineers? Lol if ai can do this that means the value of real engineers is significantly lower. Why pay an engineer tons of money when ai can do it better?
@@Loserstakethebait This just takes away the complex calculations that would otherwise need to be done manually for more complex parts. The engineer using this AI would give it a general model with all the features they want, then the AI would do all of the time-consuming optimizations.
These CNC machines are a marvel of engineering. Engineering a machine that enables other engineers to produce fantastical parts to further progress engineering is so freaking cool
Thank you guys for making these videos. I am a Tool Designer at a Rocket Company, and the education I am getting here will only make me a better designer. This will make me think twice about the features I am asking you to machine (operations & programmers). Thank You x1000000000000
I would love to see the stats on the differences in performance between the regular version of that part versus the algorithmic designs. That way I can quantify the true significance of the variances in the software's abilities to optimize tolerances like that. Wow! Mind blown. 🤯
Yeah the part looks cool but I wonder how much more effective it (so actually how much more effective the AI) is. Would have loved to see him dive into the performance of the AI a little more.
That style of 3D printer is definitely the future of manufacturing. In the near future I suspect that that full part could be made in less than an hour with a much smoother finish. Being able to create anything an engineer can dream of is incredible, even a couple of years ago a part like that one would be impossible to make that small. Having to make it in many individual parts and needing the room to assemble everything wouldn't be possible on a smaller scale. Having A.I. design it just makes it even better.
What about bound metal powders? (like metal injection molding feedstock, but in a powder) You could use the eos laserprofusion to make millions of parts and then just sinter them.
@@johntheux9238 you mean like binder jet printing? Desktop Metal has the P-50, which is a really fast bjp printer designed for large-scale manufacturing
@@bachelorsdegreeakinci You can use an Xjet npj printer for fine details or a desktop metal production system for high output. There is not just one kind of printer...
Exploiting the capabilities that exist in our time and using them in the right place. This is what we are used to seeing on this channel 🔥🔥 Thank you Mr trevor and Mr titan for this awesome video
someone at my art college built a solar sinter using a big fresnel lens and a solar powered bed to use sunlight to 3d print sand into glass in the Sahara desert. Was a nice project and scaled up you could print little houses etc
Wow, that is *AMAZING*, the finished part looks like alien technology from a sci-if movie. This is truly going to revolutionize “machining”/fabrication tech, but I don’t see it displacing normal subtractive machining, as that’s much more efficient in machine time and supports a much wider range of alloys. There’s definitely a growing market for machinists that are familiar with this sort of tech, though. Titan has created a phenomenal organization to build the next generation of engineering talent, you guys are incredibly fortunate to be involved with it!
This part looks awesome. So cool to see how it's made. At 5:35 you can see a crack/fracture going horizontally through the part. Any explanation for this? Thanks for your content. I love learning about this stuff!!
It looks like a fantastic new process, but I can't help but imagine the turbulence issues due to the grainy texture (resolve by manually porting?) and the extreme care needed in keeping impurities/odd grains out of the powder. Good lord, the seed money you'd need to get all this on deck and functional...
combining algorithms and additive manufacturing to make parts like this is going to open up a world of possibilities. Even more so than it already has. I can't imagine how expensive this part would have been if it was made in a traditional way, and how long it would have taken.
It would have been impossible to machine as one piece, so it would have ended up as a bolt-together assembly that was much bigger and more complicated. It would be difficult to cast, I imagine, but I’m not even remotely familiar with modern casting technology so it’s possible it would be impossible to cast.
I wonder at the possibilities of creating a part by rapidly cycling between printing and machining. Print a few layers, machine them to precise spec and surface finish, add more layers, machine them to spec, and so on and so on. With current processes, it would take months, maybe years, but fully integrated printing/machining holds so much promise for creating mind-blowing parts. The future will be amazing. 🤗
Actually, Sodick makes a 3d printer that does that very thing. I am sure others make a machine that does it as well but I personally seen a Sodick do it and they are super high quality machines. It was amazing at what they could do.
There are hybrid machines that exist that can sinter and CNC. There are still challenges when working with layers. Also sintering itself has strength limitations.
Yes there are even machine that can change materials progressively as the part is made. One video I saw they were applying it to cutters for mining using a more flexible but soft metal in the core and gradually transitioning to harder but more brittle metals at the cutting faces. Essentially progressive alloys. Otherwise the parts either have to be made of one material only either hard and brittle or soft and strong but wear out quicker. Materials that can be printed to gradually magnetised over the part etc. Amazing stuff.
This kind of new Hi-Tech just blows my mind and blows it even further when you think about what kind of awesome things are going to come out of this kind of technology! Simply astonishing!!
In understandable words, different layers cool at different rate causing them to engage differently causing tension between the layer which leads to fracture. There is a way to get around this effect by using a special type of oven once you have finished printing. This oven uses pressure and heat that bonds the layers better and then cools them uniformly.
@@Almalki-OG This process scrapes each layer of powder flat, so uneven shrinkage is corrected on each layer, provided there is enough laser power to weld through to the deepest shrunk part. This is where the art of tuning for power and speed comes in, which wasn't critical for this display part. I suspect they just used the same settings as they'd tuned for the actual part, and this cutaway curled slightly
What amazes me the most is that these type of structures have a futuristic, almost alien-technology vibe to it. Isn't it crazy that AI creates what we would describe as highly intelligent design anyways?
There's many of these 3D printed parts as I've seen I still have a hard time understanding how a combination of the dust and the laser make such an intricate part and everything has perfect surface texture. Incredible machine.
First of all, laser melts titanium powder and forms the very first layer of a part on a moving base. Then a base with this first layer goes down for a height of one level. Machine put titanium powder on top of the first layer and laser melts powder to make a second layer. Process continues until all layers will be finished. As was said in a video, this part do not have a supports. This can be done by this method of printing, when, unlike of plastic 3D printing, part is printing downwards. Because of this, whole part is surrounded by powder (even inner surfaces) and powder helps to prevent deformations.
@@paulrei00 We actually do have top down resin printers that use a scanned beam and vat of resin in a very similar manner to this machine, but yeah it's no help with supports.
This is an excellent video, and I love the concept of Algorithmic Engineering. Interestingly, @5:52, if you pause the video, you can see a bit of a horizontal fracture around the right side of the head of the piece. I wonder, do 3D printed pieces always have a chance of not bonding (atomically?) in random areas?
In understandable words, different layers cool at different rates causing them to shrink differently, causing tension between the layer which leads to fracture. There is a way to get around this effect by using a special type of oven once you have finished printing. This oven uses pressure and heat that bonds the layers better and then cools them uniformly.
I work in Additive. It is indeed one of them most difficult things to get right. We have a super high scrap rate. Even metal bars crack that are 2-3cm cubed.
"They were not designed by a human" ?? Uhm... It must have been a human that set the boundary conditions for the part. You do need to give the software basic information like reference planes, external shape, location and size of the connection points, location and size of all those injectors, that sort of stuff. The software _literally_ just fills in the blanks. Well, actually, it starts with a block and all the functional connections and passages. Then it simulates the part and determines where material can be removed. After adjustment of the virtual part, it will do the simulation of heat, stresses and flow again. Then the software will adjust the part once more, run another simulation, again take out material where it's not needed (and add back material where it is!) and so on. Rinse and repeat untill the part is stable. There is still a human involved to give it the initial start though, so it's _MOSTLY_ software generated/designed.
I'm sure that the basic design was established by an engineer, and optimization was AI assisted. We're a long way away from telling Siri to "Make a rocket combustion chamber for a SPACEX Merlin second stage engine." and getting the correct part.
@@widgity I can't fault them for using the term AI. AI, Artificial Intelligence, is a catch-all that _typically_ involves use of neural networks to get results, but that's not by strict definition. In this case, the software is basically doing automated optimisation, and that latter bit can still be called artificial intelligence because software generates an output without any human intervention.
Unfortunately your comment isn't getting many likes because people want to believe this extreme scenario that humans are already or soon to be redundant, rather than , designer engineers use computers/algorithms/AI as tools that don't have a clue what to do without guidance
Amazing video and loved the complexity of the part! However I did notice some imperfections and wondering how you would inspect the part on the inside when it was completed for imperfections????
@@xxportalxx. You could also use dental or surgical cameras to scope down the openings. Only reason we can't machine in those spots subtractively is because it's too expensive to make a thousand dedicated tool bits for one part. Otherwise it is 100% possible to make this part with just subtractive manufacturing, just so unbelievably horrific nobody would even attempt.
@@DSiren I would wager this particular example couldn't be made in one piece by subtractive machining alone. There's complicated internal cavity structures that aren't particularly accessible.
@@xxportalxx. it would be an ass to make the thousand or so custom tools but yes you could do it. You'd probably need a half dozen special chip extraction tools also, but you could do it. Worst case scenario you're using a wonky file to do it.
Thankyou so much for spending the money to print a nozzle we could look inside of. And it's absolutely fascinating that the program is open source. It had to have cost a minimum of millions just to create such a program.
Ti 6Al-4V is the most widely used of all the alpha-beta titanium alloys. It is typically used in the annealed condition, at service temperatures through 750°F. However it may be heat treated for high strength in sections under 4" thick. Hardenability is limited and sections over one inch may not develop full properties. Ti 6Al-4V is welded with matching or with ELI filler wire. Mill anneal: 1300-1450°F 2 hours, air cool. Recrystallization anneal bar for better ductility and fatigue strength, 1750°F 2 hours, furnace cool. For maximum fracture toughness and SCC resistance: Beta anneal 1950°F 1-2 hours, water quench. Then age 1150-1300°F 2 to 4 hours, air cool. For maximum strength: solution-treated and aged (STA) condition is: For sheet, 1675-1725°F 5 to 25 minutes, water quench. Age 975°F 4 to 6 hours, air cool. For bars and forgings, 1675-1725°F 1 hour, water quench. Age 975-1025°F 3 hours, air cool. For increased fracture toughness, but lower tensile strength: precipitation treat (overage) 1150-1250°F 4 hours, air cool. Stress relief annealing is commonly 1000-1200°F 1 to 4 hours, air cool. Ti 6Al-4V is resistant to general corrosion but may be quickly attacked by environments that cause breakdown of the protective oxide. These include hydrofluoric (HF), hydrochloric (HCl), sulfuric and phosphoric acids. Inhibitors may help for the last four but not for HF. Ti 6Al-4V resists attack by pure hydrocarbons, and most chlorinated and fluorinated hydrocarbons (provided water has not caused formation of small amounts of HCl and HF).
Awesome! Love to see a static and dynamic balance op. Also, real operational Temps? Not requiring single crystal high temp blades, obv... Thanks for sharing!
I have a resin 3d Printer at home and am asking myself how do they get the metal powder out of the cavities and hollow spaces? As far as I can tell everything should be filled to the brim with powder and I don't know if a vacuum is reliable enough to clean those nested spaces inside the part? When using the resin printer, which works similar but not quite the same, you often have pocket of resin which you have to drain, but how does this work with a metal part?
As long as there are no fully enclosed voids, the powder will be able to come out. The powder for a powder bed printer is all spherical, so it flows very nicely. Some parts of the print may need some help with some suction, but you'll get the powder out. (Unless you _deliberately_ enclose powder, which can be a valid approach if you want to reduce the heat transfer for a given section.)
@@Hydrazine1000 Thanks, that explains how they are able to get it out. Resin is quite viscous and if you design the holes too small it will take a long time to drain, if at all
This is so futuristic, really look forward to the efficiency gains that designs of such will bring to the new generation of machineries esp. Jet engines.
5:31 "If this cutout wasn't here, this would be a fully functional injector head." Uhh, no? Can you not see the major defect near the center on the right side? There's no way that thing would hold up in the high pressure high temperature environment of a rocket engine...
So. This does not sound or look like an AI has created the design. Designing using algorithms is just designing using code instead of drawing every line manually.
This guy: engineers wouldn't optimize this because they don't use algorithms. Engineers using algorithms every day: wot? (But I understand what you were saying. The AI repeatedly optimizes the result much more than humans could ever do.)
My mind is exploding with possibilities !! Thank you for taking me to another world and one I can revisit, like a previous poster said it’s like Star Trek !
This is jaw dropping. I'm not ready to retire, and I'm having trouble thinking of a career that won't be impacted in the next 5 years or so. All of the coding jobs are going away, unless coders can outcode AI (the can't). All manufacturing jobs are just about done for unless employees can outcompete Teslabots (they can't). Everything is going to drastically change.
We have one of those 3d metal printers at my work. Super cool. Made a few titanium things and they are pretty dang strong too as we tensile stress them.
Does your shop rent out time on it? I have a clone commando cosplay that id like to make slightly too real. Save me a lot of molding and casting time thats for sure.
You're absolutely correct ! I am super impressed by everything in this video from the part to the material to the printer turn everything! And this is only gonna get faster and cheaper And more common place. DAMN!!!!! We'll be more advanced than star trek in no time, probably a generation. All except the faster than light speed, travel.
If the cutaway wasn’t there, are there closed voids in the print that would be full of powder? I am guessing that you need to plan in openings to all voids to clean out powder. Is there a set method to reclaim powder stuck in a void? Thanks!
Since the engineer actually defined the criteria with the parameters, the engineer did design the part, with the software providing computation efficiency.
I knew the those small 3D printers came out , that it just be a small matter of time tell they hit the machine shops and as a machinist I know we love The challenge of new innovation and creation , seeing this video I’m wowed 💯🫡🍻 Looks like a part for X-space Appreciate titan titan manufacturing for bringing this forth his video I remember his first videos proud to be a viewer 🍻👏🏽🤜🏽🙌🏽🤛🏽👊🏽
Maybe a dumb question, but how do you handle cavities that are completly closed off or a deep within the print. I assume that they would end up to be filled with powder that cannot be extracted. Is that an issue to take into consideration with your design and how do you mitigate this?
The way you mangled the metric system was pure poetry.
One thousandth and a tenth :)
@@GaryMcKinnonUFO "So when you do the math, you end up with about 39000g in volume worth of titanium powder., and when you translate that into Kilograms you get about 39Kg of powder"....
15000 cm^3 = 15 liters lmao not that big of a deal
@@Wobblybob2004 Can't argue with that :)
@@GaryMcKinnonUFO yeah that distracted me too lol
I love how the part almost looks organic.
It now suddenly makes sense why so many sci-fi movies have alien ships that look more like an insect hive than a machine.
you can thank HR giger in part for that heavy influence in biomechanical feel. Nature is pretty crazy and in alot of ways sci fi influences us when it comes to designing things.
Movies are made 100% realism for entertainment and peep just being too serious about them
@@Mike-jv8bv It’s not exactly because of that but because of efficiency and purpose built support causing that bio- feel as every segment has been stress tested and confined to get the most use out of each piece of material
@@RoflcopterLamo the more complex certain things get the more of an organic shape they start to take on. Which is interesting. you should take a look at neural networks. the connections look very organic.
Good pattern recognition brain. That's all I'll say
The open source aspect has me excited. Typically in the past, AI part design software was bordering on half the cost of the machine you'd be printing on, and the tech to run it.
Interesting that there is a visible crack on the part. Without the cutaway, you'd never know it was there. At 5:52 where it overlays the words "NO SUPPORT" on the screen, you can see the crack directly above the 'O' in SUPPORT.
There’s other defects that they tried to hide with editing also.
Yep… that part if completed without the cutaway would have shredded under pressure and likely blown up the engine in the process. I also noted that the part required substantial finishing as there were jagged edges along various openings that would have likely broken off and potentially damaged the injectors later or the engine… 3D printing is amazing… glossing over errors only undermines confidence
saw that also.. in between the chambers a lot of excess material.. really cool concept though in time these things will just get better and better.
@@MacKeyser Is there a possibility that the crack appeared because they printed a section view of the part? I wonder if the 'AI' is able to not just design the part, but also do the relevant stress analyses.
I mean it's clearly just a display piece. Im sure the procedure would have been slightly more operator support centric if they were actually making the part for a project. The point of this was to show off the AI's ability to design parts, not whether or not the printer could handle it all on its own.
The future's going to be very interesting with AI design, 3D printing and modern materials making it possible to manufacture perfectly optimized parts.
that tech's been around for a while, but in the last couple years, it's just become a lot more accessible to the common person.
So practically humans will become or already are becoming useless. Or even a threath to further evolution of technologies. Once we start don't like where the progress is going we will try to stop it or limit it while AI will disagree with our primitive decisions.
A movie was based on what could happen if we dabble too far into AI, it was the Terminator series 😝
Until it becomes self aware and tries to kill everyone lol
@@EddyKorgo SkyNet
That is not an AI designed part. It is a human designed part, optimized by a computer program written by an engineer.
The real question is who the fuck designed this machine, that’s insane
Lmao wrong?? In every sense? You're in DENIAL lmao
@@bobdylan1968really? Who wrote the AI program? What algorithms is the AI using to optimize the design? The AI can only do what it is programmed to do within the parameters it is allotted.
@@RadDadisRadit learns? That's the whole point?
@@ondra.k610 it doesn’t learn.
Feels like I'm watching something out of Star Trek. Tea, Earl Grey, Hot.
Early
Came here to say this. In Star Trek Picard, they even used 3D printers as props for replicators. I’m excited to see where this technology goes
Feel like replicators are the main reason that Earth got to do away with currencies and enter a utopian society. Big tech tree upgrade to say the least lol.
Well then I must be Vulcan, because this was an assault in my ears.
Star Trek aside, my favorite part was seeing the printed model in action. It was truly astounding and drew my attention towards watching this as 3d printing titanium, or anything for that matter, wasn't fully within my scope of interest, as I've never immersed myself in the technological aspect of this art, but seeing this in action brought my mind to a whole new plateau of wonderment on the concept of possible diy applications in this realm of creation. Bravo!
I am really excited to see what kind of engine blocks you could design this way. Lighter, with more optimized passages for oil and coolant and tighter tolerances for more efficiency.
Coolant = poor efficiency we need heat recovery
Raptor 3?
Definitely looks like a Hyperganic part! This elevates the role of engineers to the next level and you guys did such a fantastic job at printing and presenting it. Moving in the right direction! 🤯
It is!
How does this elevate the role of engineers? Lol if ai can do this that means the value of real engineers is significantly lower. Why pay an engineer tons of money when ai can do it better?
@@Loserstakethebait
Who engineers the AI?
@@Loserstakethebait
This just takes away the complex calculations that would otherwise need to be done manually for more complex parts. The engineer using this AI would give it a general model with all the features they want, then the AI would do all of the time-consuming optimizations.
These CNC machines are a marvel of engineering. Engineering a machine that enables other engineers to produce fantastical parts to further progress engineering is so freaking cool
Thank you guys for making these videos. I am a Tool Designer at a Rocket Company, and the education I am getting here will only make me a better designer. This will make me think twice about the features I am asking you to machine (operations & programmers). Thank You x1000000000000
I would love to see the stats on the differences in performance between the regular version of that part versus the algorithmic designs. That way I can quantify the true significance of the variances in the software's abilities to optimize tolerances like that. Wow! Mind blown. 🤯
Yeah the part looks cool but I wonder how much more effective it (so actually how much more effective the AI) is. Would have loved to see him dive into the performance of the AI a little more.
Bet it doesn't even work, let alone be better
@@tristanmoller9498 Exactly!
@@egoinjury Let's hope so.
That style of 3D printer is definitely the future of manufacturing. In the near future I suspect that that full part could be made in less than an hour with a much smoother finish. Being able to create anything an engineer can dream of is incredible, even a couple of years ago a part like that one would be impossible to make that small. Having to make it in many individual parts and needing the room to assemble everything wouldn't be possible on a smaller scale. Having A.I. design it just makes it even better.
What about bound metal powders? (like metal injection molding feedstock, but in a powder)
You could use the eos laserprofusion to make millions of parts and then just sinter them.
Metal additive is the next wave of manufacturing.
@@johntheux9238 you mean like binder jet printing? Desktop Metal has the P-50, which is a really fast bjp printer designed for large-scale manufacturing
@@subbot8077 Either binder jet or a thermoplastic binder. Both are great.
@@bachelorsdegreeakinci You can use an Xjet npj printer for fine details or a desktop metal production system for high output.
There is not just one kind of printer...
The soundtrack going through a low-pass filter as the camera submerges is a cute touch !
....Cute?
@@spanks6947 I might have weird tastes !
@@liotier I reckoned that from your comment. But, fair enough 🤙
Exploiting the capabilities that exist in our time and using them in the right place. This is what we are used to seeing on this channel 🔥🔥
Thank you Mr trevor and Mr titan for this awesome video
Thank you Mohammed!
This is absolutely amazing. This is Science Fiction now Science Fact.
Laser sintering is probably my favorite additive manufacturing process, I look forward to affordable polymer sintering machines for the home shop.
someone at my art college built a solar sinter using a big fresnel lens and a solar powered bed to use sunlight to 3d print sand into glass in the Sahara desert. Was a nice project and scaled up you could print little houses etc
This just completely blew me away
Wow, that is *AMAZING*, the finished part looks like alien technology from a sci-if movie.
This is truly going to revolutionize “machining”/fabrication tech, but I don’t see it displacing normal subtractive machining, as that’s much more efficient in machine time and supports a much wider range of alloys. There’s definitely a growing market for machinists that are familiar with this sort of tech, though. Titan has created a phenomenal organization to build the next generation of engineering talent, you guys are incredibly fortunate to be involved with it!
“Traditionally engineers wouldn’t take the time to optimize these because it would take forever…” Clearly needs to spend more time around engineers.
I saw the part in the thumbnail and already knew it was a Hyperganic part 😂 So cool!
I would love to see the part in action or to see some computer modelling of how it works.
This is definitive next level manufacturing. Awesome technology!
This part looks awesome. So cool to see how it's made. At 5:35 you can see a crack/fracture going horizontally through the part. Any explanation for this? Thanks for your content. I love learning about this stuff!!
I saw that too
I imagine they have a few failures occasionally.
Layering issues maybe
It looks like a fantastic new process, but I can't help but imagine the turbulence issues due to the grainy texture (resolve by manually porting?) and the extreme care needed in keeping impurities/odd grains out of the powder.
Good lord, the seed money you'd need to get all this on deck and functional...
@@modelcitizen1977 we are all human;-)
combining algorithms and additive manufacturing to make parts like this is going to open up a world of possibilities. Even more so than it already has. I can't imagine how expensive this part would have been if it was made in a traditional way, and how long it would have taken.
It would have been impossible to machine as one piece, so it would have ended up as a bolt-together assembly that was much bigger and more complicated. It would be difficult to cast, I imagine, but I’m not even remotely familiar with modern casting technology so it’s possible it would be impossible to cast.
Yes! This probably one of the coolest projects you guys have ever done!
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
This is breathtakingly phenomenal engineering, limited by imagination only!
I wonder at the possibilities of creating a part by rapidly cycling between printing and machining.
Print a few layers, machine them to precise spec and surface finish, add more layers, machine them to spec, and so on and so on.
With current processes, it would take months, maybe years, but fully integrated printing/machining holds so much promise for creating mind-blowing parts.
The future will be amazing. 🤗
it's already possible. Search "Hybrid machine 3D printer and 5 axis milling machine" on UA-cam.
Actually, Sodick makes a 3d printer that does that very thing. I am sure others make a machine that does it as well but I personally seen a Sodick do it and they are super high quality machines. It was amazing at what they could do.
There are hybrid machines that exist that can sinter and CNC. There are still challenges when working with layers. Also sintering itself has strength limitations.
Yes there are even machine that can change materials progressively as the part is made. One video I saw they were applying it to cutters for mining using a more flexible but soft metal in the core and gradually transitioning to harder but more brittle metals at the cutting faces. Essentially progressive alloys. Otherwise the parts either have to be made of one material only either hard and brittle or soft and strong but wear out quicker. Materials that can be printed to gradually magnetised over the part etc. Amazing stuff.
Had no idea. My mind is blown.
This kind of new Hi-Tech just blows my mind and blows it even further when you think about what kind of awesome things are going to come out of this kind of technology! Simply astonishing!!
Unreal. Literally next level stuff.
Loved the bloopers at the end of the video BTW.
Thanks haha there were plenty of bloopers to choose from 😆
This is INSANE. Its integration level is literally astonishing it will be.
Can you comment on the layer break at 5:42? How prevalent is that with this process and how do you account for it?
I noticed that crack too, would be interested to see their reaction to it
and the super nasty widowmakers at almost every orifice... probably just add to the flame right? -__-
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 what are widowmakers ?
In understandable words, different layers cool at different rate causing them to engage differently causing tension between the layer which leads to fracture. There is a way to get around this effect by using a special type of oven once you have finished printing. This oven uses pressure and heat that bonds the layers better and then cools them uniformly.
@@Almalki-OG This process scrapes each layer of powder flat, so uneven shrinkage is corrected on each layer, provided there is enough laser power to weld through to the deepest shrunk part. This is where the art of tuning for power and speed comes in, which wasn't critical for this display part. I suspect they just used the same settings as they'd tuned for the actual part, and this cutaway curled slightly
What amazes me the most is that these type of structures have a futuristic, almost alien-technology vibe to it. Isn't it crazy that AI creates what we would describe as highly intelligent design anyways?
It’s mathematically the most efficient design
it's not AI. it's algorithmically generated, huge difference.
There's many of these 3D printed parts as I've seen I still have a hard time understanding how a combination of the dust and the laser make such an intricate part and everything has perfect surface texture.
Incredible machine.
First of all, laser melts titanium powder and forms the very first layer of a part on a moving base. Then a base with this first layer goes down for a height of one level. Machine put titanium powder on top of the first layer and laser melts powder to make a second layer. Process continues until all layers will be finished.
As was said in a video, this part do not have a supports. This can be done by this method of printing, when, unlike of plastic 3D printing, part is printing downwards. Because of this, whole part is surrounded by powder (even inner surfaces) and powder helps to prevent deformations.
@@paulrei00 No, I just watched the video. It's magic, that's that's all ...it's magic. 😁
perfect? it's very imperfect. far from smooth.
@@krusher74 Define smooth. 🙄
@@paulrei00 We actually do have top down resin printers that use a scanned beam and vat of resin in a very similar manner to this machine, but yeah it's no help with supports.
Bro this is the cleanest machine shop I’ve ever seen, looks like a dang spaceship
Now make a video, on testing such parts
I liked at 6:32 the music being muffled as the camera went underwater. Nice editing touch!
3:45 The good thing about the metric system is, that 39000grams are not "about" 39 kilograms but exactly 39 kilograms! :D
This is an excellent video, and I love the concept of Algorithmic Engineering. Interestingly, @5:52, if you pause the video, you can see a bit of a horizontal fracture around the right side of the head of the piece. I wonder, do 3D printed pieces always have a chance of not bonding (atomically?) in random areas?
It's caused by algorithmic polypressures that build up and cause internal Pythagoras fractures that refract and cause horizontal cracks.
In understandable words, different layers cool at different rates causing them to shrink differently, causing tension between the layer which leads to fracture. There is a way to get around this effect by using a special type of oven once you have finished printing. This oven uses pressure and heat that bonds the layers better and then cools them uniformly.
I work in Additive. It is indeed one of them most difficult things to get right. We have a super high scrap rate. Even metal bars crack that are 2-3cm cubed.
@@bjorn5209 Ahh, that's what I was thinking ! I can imagine the high scrap rate.
@@Professor-Scientist 🤨
so pleasant to see you use our trumpf equipment
For what fuel and oxidizer was the injector plate made for? And what combustion chamber was it designed to fit in with? Also, I love your videos.
For rocket booster
@@gurbanguliberdimuhamedov4228 You didn't even answer one of those questions.
i cant wait for this algorithm to release, ive always wanted to design nature inspired mechanical parts
"They were not designed by a human" ?? Uhm... It must have been a human that set the boundary conditions for the part. You do need to give the software basic information like reference planes, external shape, location and size of the connection points, location and size of all those injectors, that sort of stuff.
The software _literally_ just fills in the blanks. Well, actually, it starts with a block and all the functional connections and passages. Then it simulates the part and determines where material can be removed. After adjustment of the virtual part, it will do the simulation of heat, stresses and flow again. Then the software will adjust the part once more, run another simulation, again take out material where it's not needed (and add back material where it is!) and so on. Rinse and repeat untill the part is stable.
There is still a human involved to give it the initial start though, so it's _MOSTLY_ software generated/designed.
I'm sure that the basic design was established by an engineer, and optimization was AI assisted. We're a long way away from telling Siri to "Make a rocket combustion chamber for a SPACEX Merlin second stage engine." and getting the correct part.
Also sounded like it was all just defined algorithmically.. no 'AI' at all.
@@widgity I can't fault them for using the term AI. AI, Artificial Intelligence, is a catch-all that _typically_ involves use of neural networks to get results, but that's not by strict definition.
In this case, the software is basically doing automated optimisation, and that latter bit can still be called artificial intelligence because software generates an output without any human intervention.
Unfortunately your comment isn't getting many likes because people want to believe this extreme scenario that humans are already or soon to be redundant, rather than , designer engineers use computers/algorithms/AI as tools that don't have a clue what to do without guidance
perfect. open source pushing innovation without Greed...
Amazing video and loved the complexity of the part! However I did notice some imperfections and wondering how you would inspect the part on the inside when it was completed for imperfections????
Probably xray it, pretty sure they xray a lot of aviation equipment anyway
@@xxportalxx. You could also use dental or surgical cameras to scope down the openings. Only reason we can't machine in those spots subtractively is because it's too expensive to make a thousand dedicated tool bits for one part. Otherwise it is 100% possible to make this part with just subtractive manufacturing, just so unbelievably horrific nobody would even attempt.
@@DSiren I would wager this particular example couldn't be made in one piece by subtractive machining alone. There's complicated internal cavity structures that aren't particularly accessible.
@@xxportalxx. it would be an ass to make the thousand or so custom tools but yes you could do it. You'd probably need a half dozen special chip extraction tools also, but you could do it. Worst case scenario you're using a wonky file to do it.
@@DSiren I'm not sure how you'd envision those internal cavities being machined, moreover how you'd machine them with any level of precision
it's people like you that give me a hope for the future for America god bless the work you do and how you do it I think you guys are pure genius
Thankyou so much for spending the money to print a nozzle we could look inside of. And it's absolutely fascinating that the program is open source. It had to have cost a minimum of millions just to create such a program.
The future is going to be wild with this AI design, that injector head has an almost organic look to it.
it's not an AI design, it's an algorithmic design. they are just throwing AI around as a buzzword.
4:04 This was one of the most insane GUIs I’ve ever seen. Topped off by the green check down in the bottom corner.
Awesome video guys. Keep ‘em coming. You are an inspiration to all of us.
Ti 6Al-4V is the most widely used of all the alpha-beta titanium alloys. It is typically used in the annealed condition, at service temperatures through 750°F. However it may be heat treated for high strength in sections under 4" thick. Hardenability is limited and sections over one inch may not develop full properties. Ti 6Al-4V is welded with matching or with ELI filler wire.
Mill anneal: 1300-1450°F 2 hours, air cool. Recrystallization anneal bar for better ductility and fatigue strength, 1750°F 2 hours, furnace cool.
For maximum fracture toughness and SCC resistance: Beta anneal 1950°F 1-2 hours, water quench. Then age 1150-1300°F 2 to 4 hours, air cool.
For maximum strength: solution-treated and aged (STA) condition is: For sheet, 1675-1725°F 5 to 25 minutes, water quench. Age 975°F 4 to 6 hours, air cool. For bars and forgings, 1675-1725°F 1 hour, water quench. Age 975-1025°F 3 hours, air cool.
For increased fracture toughness, but lower tensile strength: precipitation treat (overage) 1150-1250°F 4 hours, air cool. Stress relief annealing is commonly 1000-1200°F 1 to 4 hours, air cool.
Ti 6Al-4V is resistant to general corrosion but may be quickly attacked by environments that cause breakdown of the protective oxide. These include hydrofluoric (HF), hydrochloric (HCl), sulfuric and phosphoric acids. Inhibitors may help for the last four but not for HF. Ti 6Al-4V resists attack by pure hydrocarbons, and most chlorinated and fluorinated hydrocarbons (provided water has not caused formation of small amounts of HCl and HF).
Awesome! Love to see a static and dynamic balance op. Also, real operational Temps? Not requiring single crystal high temp blades, obv... Thanks for sharing!
Nothing keeps me up at night like the thought of an ai designing and printing whatever it wants
I have a resin 3d Printer at home and am asking myself how do they get the metal powder out of the cavities and hollow spaces? As far as I can tell everything should be filled to the brim with powder and I don't know if a vacuum is reliable enough to clean those nested spaces inside the part?
When using the resin printer, which works similar but not quite the same, you often have pocket of resin which you have to drain, but how does this work with a metal part?
As long as there are no fully enclosed voids, the powder will be able to come out. The powder for a powder bed printer is all spherical, so it flows very nicely. Some parts of the print may need some help with some suction, but you'll get the powder out.
(Unless you _deliberately_ enclose powder, which can be a valid approach if you want to reduce the heat transfer for a given section.)
@@Hydrazine1000 Thanks, that explains how they are able to get it out. Resin is quite viscous and if you design the holes too small it will take a long time to drain, if at all
This man is working my dream profession and I'm super jelly
That's not ai. That's algorithmically generation
This is so futuristic, really look forward to the efficiency gains that designs of such will bring to the new generation of machineries esp. Jet engines.
Wondering how strong the part is? Will it be brittle could it be heat treated for strength? So many questions!! Amazing where tech is going!
@@sergiugabrielpopovici5664 tubes only make material strength anisotropic; it reshapes the strain tensor without increasing total strength
@dan forged parts have approx 20-40% more strength, its plausible the design technique warrants the loss
From start to finish, WOW. Absolutely amazing.
no, from halfway to finished
"Saves engineers a ton of time" translation to reality: "we want to pay fewer engineers less money"
That was insane detail. What amazes me is that much tech still uses an old USB port and dongle lol. They break all the time.
"39,000 g is about 39 kg..." eh no it is exactly 39.000 kg, it's metric, dude!. Sorry had to get that off my chest.
5:31
"If this cutout wasn't here, this would be a fully functional injector head."
Uhh, no? Can you not see the major defect near the center on the right side? There's no way that thing would hold up in the high pressure high temperature environment of a rocket engine...
So. This does not sound or look like an AI has created the design. Designing using algorithms is just designing using code instead of drawing every line manually.
Yeah, sounds like it was just a more powerful version of scad.
This guy: engineers wouldn't optimize this because they don't use algorithms.
Engineers using algorithms every day: wot?
(But I understand what you were saying. The AI repeatedly optimizes the result much more than humans could ever do.)
5:51 seems to have a crack. Nonetheless, crazy impressive !
rocket power head use high temp metal like nickel not titanium which is high strength, preferably light weight too.
So you printed a useless paper weight?
Great job! Just to say: It is „kg“, „m“ for meter and „km“ for kilometer.
My mind is exploding with possibilities !!
Thank you for taking me to another world and one I can revisit, like a previous poster said it’s like Star Trek !
This is jaw dropping. I'm not ready to retire, and I'm having trouble thinking of a career that won't be impacted in the next 5 years or so. All of the coding jobs are going away, unless coders can outcode AI (the can't). All manufacturing jobs are just about done for unless employees can outcompete Teslabots (they can't). Everything is going to drastically change.
We've moved so fast with technology !!!
We have one of those 3d metal printers at my work. Super cool. Made a few titanium things and they are pretty dang strong too as we tensile stress them.
Does your shop rent out time on it? I have a clone commando cosplay that id like to make slightly too real. Save me a lot of molding and casting time thats for sure.
You're absolutely correct !
I am super impressed by everything in this video from the part to the material to the printer turn everything!
And this is only gonna get faster and cheaper And more common place.
DAMN!!!!!
We'll be more advanced than star trek in no time, probably a generation. All except the faster than light speed, travel.
AI in developing machines / parts / software is going to be such an efficiency boost in almost all industries
What software are you doing the 3d solid modelling in? Is that also made by Hyperganics, or is Hyperganics a plug-in for something else?
everyday we get closer and closer to the grey goo.
Wow nice one.. The doors this technology opens its unbelievable.
Hope the new generation will going to use it to create crazy things
I was hopping for a rocket test in the end
I haven't even started this video and I'm excited to see the result! 🤠
If the cutaway wasn’t there, are there closed voids in the print that would be full of powder? I am guessing that you need to plan in openings to all voids to clean out powder. Is there a set method to reclaim powder stuck in a void? Thanks!
one way might be to print in stages and leave gaps to be filled in order to better lock things together
"But you still need an engineer to write the algorithm"
So this just designed by an engineer
Should dump that part in the desert near Roswell NM, And wait for someone to discover it...
Wanting the printer reminds me I those old crop circle videos. Very cool!
Since the engineer actually defined the criteria with the parameters, the engineer did design the part, with the software providing computation efficiency.
I knew the those small 3D printers came out , that it just be a small matter of time tell they hit the machine shops and as a machinist I know we love The challenge of new innovation and creation , seeing this video I’m wowed 💯🫡🍻
Looks like a part for
X-space
Appreciate titan titan manufacturing for bringing this forth his video I remember his first videos proud to be a viewer 🍻👏🏽🤜🏽🙌🏽🤛🏽👊🏽
I really wonder how much that part would cost. 39kg of titanium and more than 2 days of that machines time can't be cheap.
that was SICK. the only thing my brain recognized in all that tech was the USB port at 3:57
I wanted to see it working!! It looks amazing
This blows my mind. Amazing
Great video. I wish you'd have a bit more footage showing what's going on, like what does that bottom of the part look like after the wire cut?
Impressive! What a time to be alive.
I used to work for trumpf making the laser diodes cool to see the machines capabilities being demonstrated
Wow. Thanks for posting this. I had no idea 3D printing has evolved to this level!?
How does the titanium powder solidifies and gets cuts on that titanium plate that keeps getting higher?
Man, this is so amazing. Incredible, really, and really exciting!
I can't wait to start using the Hyperganic software. The potential of AI is boundless. The future really is now.
Very cool.
Sadly, there are a few errors visible at 5;40 that would cause catastrophic failure if it were printed fully to be used.
Maybe a dumb question, but how do you handle cavities that are completly closed off or a deep within the print. I assume that they would end up to be filled with powder that cannot be extracted. Is that an issue to take into consideration with your design and how do you mitigate this?
no answer eh? lol
Did you get that from tony stark ? The iron man suit , should be your next project .