This is why Free France is TERRIBLE in HoI4
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2022
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continue the fight means you un-capitulate. i once tried it when i still was a noob. it's just france without the debuff to capitulate
@Void thanks for the feedback, I'll make sure it's fixed next time
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Imo, the "merge with Britain" option should not end your game in single player, but give you control of the franco-british union instead
Hopefully they patch that so it is done properly
There are a lot of little things like this that really need to be fixed, little bugs and problems that have been in the game for YEARS now that ruin playthroughs. It's why HOI4 needs a custodian team like Stellaris has IMO, to fix and add small patches to the old DLCs that barely work anymore. Off the top of my head;
Ottoman empire cores are janky, Kuwait is considered part of "French Syria" despite being British and not Syrian. Alexandria is not cored by the Egyptian cores decision.
If you play disunited Yugoslavia and sign the tripartite act, you get a "civil war" that takes over your entire country instantly and ends the game, have yet to find a way around it.
The entire Spanish civil war barely functions since NSB, alt history Spanish paths are nearly impossible now
Bulgaria's "predetermined territorial claims" being granted to them by a puppet German government, or losing your puppets lands to a free Bulgaria without any choice
India can wind up in a situation where they have a civil war and 'Free india' is in the Allies while 'Dominion of India' is not...still not sure what exactly causes that.
TFV focuses in general are just abysmal now and often times worse than just playing with default trees.
And of course; Franco British union being an instant 'lose the game' button. Supposedly made for the AI to take in Ahistorical mode but I haven't seen them take the option since MTG...
@@Kandall05161 There are also stuff like Turkey forming a faction with Italy that does no longer exist. Germany stealing puppets when going Non-Aligned. Italy having no way to say no to Mussolini's assassination.
@@melfice999 I puppeted Turkey as the Soviets once, then they formed a faction with Iraq and Italy later in the game (while still being my puppet).
A communist puppet stole Fascist Italy from Germany and nobody in that world cared.
@@rps215 This won't happen it's been this way for too long they just don't care
Calling it "Free" France is a lie, since it costs so much time and sanity.
Lol
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Spitting facts
Well the only free thing adout free france is the free territory
Its free to claim :)
Just imagining the French engineers looking confused:
Mr. Blum, where the hell is New Caledonia? Why are we putting the most advanced naval base on the planet there?
Then they would be dumbfounded on how Blum predicted the next capital to be there after their defeat.
@@blackandwhitecats4243 Or (hear me out) someone like him who is in charge of the country might have some influence on where the new capital will be
@@sentienttoaster1739 I forgot that factor but I'm sure his first option on a new capital wouldn't be New Caledonia that is far away from the european theatre.
@@blackandwhitecats4243 the other option is French Guyana but I'm sure with a little convincing you could convince them
Sacre bleu jean just shut up and build
If you have over 70% war support as France after the fall of Paris, you get that bottom option, "Continue the Fight!" It denies the "Triumph in France" event for Germany, preventing them from forming Vichy.
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I Don't like your username@@watchongezellig
They should add acheivements for beating Germany as Free France in the 1939 start date
@der Führer but you can't capitulate to get this achievement and it so happens that to become free France you need to capitulate
The achievement for free france should be called "the long march home"
Please no
@@christopherpowell3166 That would be very nice, but another one very hard.
@@christopherpowell3166 They should make one where you have to succeed a naval invasion from the free french capital all the way back to either a core or germany.
The Continue The Fight Option is actually okay, Germany can't Form Vichy and you Lose all Mainland France but you Keep The Focus Tree and all Oversea Colonies. Capital is in Algeria so it's a little more fun to Play🤭
You also don't have to take your own land at the peacedeal
@@smeggiamagarwine well the historical option is by far the worst
@@idk-xp7kj history isn't always sunshine and rainbows
@@himedo1512 I meant worst in term of stuff like resources, land, industry etc and I’m fully aware that history wasn’t always all rainbows and sunshine
@@idk-xp7kj yes. Thats my point. Historical decisions aren't always the best decisions.
The French secured Africa, lead D-Day, Crushed Germany and Italy.
The Allies: Here’s one island for your troubles
Can’t say that they crushed Germany and Italy if they lost to them😅
he somehow got slovakia too lol, just noticed that he ignored it
@@johnmcmanus2447 wtf are you on about he's speaking about what happened in the video not in real life
I actually live in New Caledonia and I have no clue why It would be Free France's capital, however it was one of the most important ports in the pacific and over 1million Americans went through new caldonia during ww2
When France capitulated in ww2 France’s African colonies stayed loyal to Petain and only France’s pacific, Indian and equatorial African possessions (Congo, CAR and Chad😎) joined free France, but not in HOI4. In our timeline the free French government was based in London, However HOI4 does not simulate this so the capital moves to the largest city in the country which since the African possessions were very underdeveloped at the time is Noumea. Only after the recapture of Africa did the free French government move to Algiers making it the capital of free France
Isn't Caledonia the old name for Scotland? Why did they name a tropical island half way around the world essentially New Scotland?
@@Roketsune yes
@@Roketsune they did the same thing in Nova Scotia (new Scotland in Latin), New Zealand (a Dutch province), and new Ireland and new Britain which are not that far from New Caledonia. Europeans named a lot of stuff new+[existing place name]
@@Roketsune James Cook, the British explorer, named the island New Caledonia because it reminded him of Scotland. The name stuck when the French decided to colonize the island.
Allies: oh no germany is propably gonna invade us
France: build the factories in new caledonia
It really annoys me that in the vast majority of my games Vichy France is never returned in the peacedeal because it counts as a seperate country. So it's up for the grabs in the peacedeal so you get disgusting situations of the UK having half of France, i make a point now to use my own damn war participation to give back the Vichy lands back to France because i refuse to have British Occitania in my games.
They should make free France be in a civil war with Vichy that France can't call allies in at least
The new peace deal system in BBA should hopefully cut down on this, since France can now at least contest claims on its own country by Britain/US/Soviets. No more cases of them just getting annexed before they even get a turn because the UK got 3 armies sunk in the med and therefor has 80% war participation.
Or just automaticly annex vichy to free france.
Trans 😂
It’s always the Soviets for no reason. Why do the Soviets always prioritize taking spain and France?
Free France should receive shorter focuses. All of them are 70 days long and you will return to the normal French tree, so you won't finish focuses in time to count
It's because paradox doesn't give a shit about france in this game, they make free netherlands, poland and soon fucking ethiopia of all things more fun to play but since france has to die for the game to work (because god forbid actually being allowed to fix the issues France had historically in a sandbox game and then actually successfully holding the germans off like they almost did IRL) otherwise the werhaboos will cry about how germany can't kill France in a single day.
Paradox developers seem to think all focuses have to be 70 days
@@shakshukioflibya6633 playing Portugal is a pain because of that.
P- Polat alemdar
As a french seeing that inaccuracy for Free France territories, border gore from getting back our OWN territories (and in general) + the low factories in 39, it gives me a heart attacc
13:27
*Loses the whole French metropol*
"I've lost Djibouti ? Oh maaaaan ..."
“We’ve trapped them in france” I can’t think of a worse fate
11:07 I've never heard Bitt3rSteel say "our defense is crumbeling" in such a relaxed manner.
Just a tip, when grouping ships, like you do at around 6:30, you can shift click the anchors to the left instead of individually selecting every ship group, reducing 30 clicks to about 6.
*and reducing the risk of rsi
1200 hours no idea
Fun fact: Free France has the least amount of focuses: 23, which is one less than how many Vichy France has
Almost like paradox doesn't give a shit about france in this game, with that being the case then why the fuck even bother making france playable and making them be a secondary part of a DLC based on the spainish civil war?
@@delta2372 As I see it, Free and Vichy France having 23-24 focuses is probably due to the fact that after France capitulates, you're not gonna care about what ideology you are, or developing colonies (these 2 are a massive part of the French focus tree), you're only gonna care about getting your country back.
@@Mici yes but the issue with that is, especially as free france is that it doesn't make people want to continue playing, there's no point to not do the union with britian if france falls because atleast the british can do something with the french territories unlike free and vichy france.
I didn't even know that Free France had a seperate focus tree until now lmao
This is what I mean when I say that after By Blood Alone, paradox needs to chill down a while and correct everything with the game. We have shit old trees like france, the commonwealth and china, we have old but reasonably decent trees that could use some tweaks like the US, the UK, maybe Japan and a few very good trees like the USSR, the netherlands, maybe spain and turkey.
I mean, the ussr has a 70 day focus that gives you 10 military factories. They have a 35day focus that gives you an extra operative slot and allows you to assassinate trotsky, which gives you 15% stability once done. France has 70day focus that tives you some compliance in the colonies.
Playing the soviets and france feels like playing different games, playing france feels like playing hoi3
good idea,but dont treat hoi3 dirty like that
They should just make all focuses equal, i sound like a liberal saying this ugh, but you know what I mean
@@user-pn7jz9vr2z when being alt right is your entire personality lmao
La Resistance is not that old, Frances tree is vastly newer than Germany, Japan, USA, UK.
Can 100% agree they need to fix the commonwealth trees, Together for Victory is so much lower standard of trees compared to even Death or Dishonour
@@williampaabreeves Commonwealth is unimportant
I like how despite bulgaria losing it created 3 countries plus it got more land
Big Brain Bulgaria
Bulgaria actually gained land after ww2
@@ASuspiciouslyCommunistToaster i know souther debrojer but i am talking about lands in serbia and greece
@@yatobg5952 your point being?
Bulgaria historically is the only country that lost WW2 but actually gained land as a result
in real life free France was formed in French equatorial Africa
New Caledonia fun fact: The reef systems of New Caledonia are the second largest in the world after the Great Barrier Reef of Australia. And the barrier reef's lagoon is the largest in the world with an area of 24,000 square kilometers. It was designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 2008. *The more you know!*
Neat!
Rare Kim Jong-Un cameo
I'm thinking they never expected anyone to come back from Free France, so they never tested if the focus tree was broken or not. lol
While they're grouped with New Caledonia in this, the group of islands to the right of New Caledonia at 1:23 were called the New Hebrides (now Vanuatu). It was a condominium between the British and the French. This resulted in two different communities formed where one is Anglophone while the other is Francophone (a divide that still exists). This also resulted in two different governments to rule their respective communities. A partially elected joint administration became a thing in 1975 until they got their independence in 1980 and they now have a single parliament
WTF I have seen you for years now on every video
20:40 Certified France moment
20:20 it's not the lack of spirit that the New Caledonias went on strikes. It was the tropical heat and the cool-cool coconuts
in the multiplayer mods some UA-camrs play
the amount of colonies free France gets is determined by their war participation points before the capitulation
so you can get all the colonies by simply throwing all your troops at Germans
Of course the focus tree is broken. I wouldn't expect anything less from paradox
too many strikes broke the focus tree
To continue the "painful nations" series you could play the Netherlands' government in exile in the East Indies.
He did. I remember him playing for the Bevrijding achievement a while back. And since he's actually Belgian from Flanders, he actually pronounced Bevrijding correctly. Everyone else either butchers it or doesn't pronounce it lol (except maybe Antasil who actually is Dutch)
"Continue the war in Batavia?"
The kazoo when the naval invasion happened xD it really made my day.
As a french Canadian of Québec, i just want to say you forgot St Pierre and Miquelon island. Shame on you ! Just kidding hahaha. Btw i love your videos, keep up the good work.
"french Canadian of Quebec" you cant say that...yet...
@@nanikasan_ One day our lost brothers will be freed
@@BlackHawk2b vive la france hahaha
In real life Free France was in Gabon, that’s why the capital is called “Libreville” which means Freecity.
iirc the Continue the Fight decision makes it so germany cannot form Vichy, but i could be wrong
Ur Reich
“I’ll play as the worst France”
Who’s gonna tell him you can only play one country at a time
Based
Something I discovered in my own Free France playthrough, if you use the legitamacy decisions to take over a colonial area(like Algeria for example) then release Tahiti, your supply capital will be moved to Algeria
Damn, I absolutely love how BitterSteel speaks french. That's just gorgeous. A music for my ears. Please do it more often
Wow, наши люди и здесь имеются
His Belgium so that’s why
The strikes mechanic is such BS sometimes, getting several in a row just because RNG hates you is infuriating.
To be fair the french are renowned for striking alot, so that part is semi realistic
I swear to god the devs added a hidden value making it more likely for france to get strikes.
10:06 Historically accurate gameplay right there.
@Bitt3rSteel
In the intro/build up phase you forgot the French have an island off the coast of Canada by Labrador and Newfoundland that has a few build slots. Just thought you should know since in my opinion every factory helps.
I still wonder why there is no Philip petian as a field Marshall or in mil cabinet when you play France france
Petain is busy... elsewhere
Because he was too old to be a general in 1939.
@@Intrinseque52 he was the chief of army in the 1930s and was the one who signed the French surrender
@@D27594 he was ambassador in Spain in 1939 (to apaise Franco) brought back into the french government in May 40 where he staged a coup to surrender and ally with the nazis. He was neither in the military cabinet nor a political adviser.
He was retired. But he didn't stage a coup, @Fragilus_1er, he was appointed
He lost Djibouti. Feels bad, man...
I've lost DJIBOUTI ? OH MAAAN
26:20 Better hope the Battle of Paris isn't this timeline's Stalingrad.
I've never heard the sentence "My plan is to lose, and then win." before.
Sometimes u need tot ake 1 step back to take 2 steps forward
Bitter, I have to fucking thank you. I bought HoI4 just today, and as every reasonable player does I did the tutorial. Still, I was confused about some menus, pages and options, until I found out you did a player guide, and now I know how to decently play. Thank you for your tutorial.
Ps. It took me more to complete Paradox's tutorial then watching yours
I hope it helped!
I’m actually from New Caledonia and it was an important place for US army during the WW2, when it was fighting Japan
After 7 years the French focus tree is still so broken
Man the music was superloud this episode. Never the less good episode!
i was impressed when i listen you saying french names, then joking about british, then i saw you are from Belgium, and everything became clear to me :) :)
Hey Bitt3rSteel, I realy love your Videos, Not only because i love this Game but also because you speak with such enthusiasm so that ist just so pleasant to watch your Videos. I would really recommend you to make Videos about more Games than just HOI4
When releasin Vietnam/Cambodia, you could have used a template from them which is made up of their manpower for the most part
It's disgusting how good you are at this game
technically finishing "No Focuses" challenge this way lol.
I had an MP game with a first time player on france (it was just me and him, i was Britain.), and he got so foolhardy about winning, lost immeadietly, played as Free-France, and sent his men to fight in the meatgrinder of Taranto while i sat and liberated his country without him noticing.
I had pretty much the opposite experience
I was playing as France to challenge myself, he was playing Britain so that he's somewhat safe but can still participate in the war in a meaningfull manner (to be fair, it wasnt his first ever rodeo, but still sub 50 hours).
I was holding the Germans back in the north and Maginot, was moving into Italy. Meanwhile he was hyperfocusing on something extremely unrelated, while i was pleading for him to arrive in Italy ASAP, as i was being overrun from the Tyrol front. As a sidenote, i was literally at the gates of rome at this point. He just goes "No i cant, africa is more important". Suffice to say, i had to retreat out of there, cost me a massive amount of equipment, which caused me to slowly loose against the Axis. Once i had to surrender, he rubbed it into my nose how he was oh so much better than me since he didnt crumble and needed help (i counter pushed italy from tunisia while they were starting to gobble up egypt, so much for that).
Once i did crumble, he lost the will to keep fighting since he was now also facing the masses of Germans.
You can keep all your divisions when capitulating by giving them as expeditionary forces to an ally like britain, and then immiedetely recalling them after you capitulate
(because when you send them they now count as british divisions, that means they dont get deleted)
YO HOWD YOU DO THAT OPENING SHOT THATS COOL AS SHIT
The most generous USA lend-lease ever: 33:49
I would be furious if I played all the way through this only for it all to be pointless. Thank you for your sacrifice sir.
Great vid , but what template do u recommend for an offensive war tanks and infantry
I'm amazed france lasted that long against Germany, when I played france, Germany pushed me, on a level 10 fort, with about 3 tank divisions
Not sure why you were concerned about the German advance stalling because worst case scenario you could just give a path to Paris
"Defeatism kind of sucks" - Bitt3rsteel 2023
"I'm not having fun so far."
I say that every time I play HOI4...
30:00 SCP-106 CONTAINNED SUCCESSFULLY
Been trying to do the Little Entente achievement and whoo buddy you remember how annoying it is doing exclusively 70 day focuses. By the time you get to the damn necessary focuses Germany comes knocking.
Bitt3rSteel! How do you get that cinnematic camera like that?
Great gameplay video! Anybody know what music is playing in the background? Specifically which station in the game has that music? Thanks
im new to HOI4
and i thought the thumbnail was france owning three telephone wires
I want it to be possible to do an alternate history playthrough where you play as France and keep up the fight from Algeria.
Hey Bitt3rSteel, is that song that begins at 19:00 "The Man I love"?, sounds cool
the angry french guy at 3:10 really made me watching the ad ngl
Damn the German Republic got a merciful deal out of that piece conference.
I’m glad there’s at least one hoi 4 youtuber who cares about pronunciation!
Challenge: Take a Shot every time he says "Begging"
New drinking game: Every time BitterSteel says "I need guns", drink a shot.
how do you do the camera view at the beginning?
Yoooo,new vid, thx bittersteel
That part at the start looked kinda cursed lol
how do you get that overlook view at the very start
That "Lebensraum" was so perfectly pronounced.
can someone tell me why at 0:20 the icon for the achievemnts has a yellowe exclamation marker please?
for those wondering, doing the "continue the fight" option just lets you be france but you can keep the vichy stuff
Could you make updated achivment guide for portugal "Macau my Day"
"Dont you dare click away"
Me:
Fr, you do have a pretty good french accent!!
Important! 1:30 you forgot st. Pierre and Miquelon, islands off the coast of canada
Soviet Lybia at the end:
“I can do something for belgium” does exactly what France did irl*
I think the music is a bit too loud compared to your voice😬
But I still like the video😁
sometimes i think free france can be every french territory except for mainland
this time the music is much louder than you
nice! better o not capitulate in that case! would be nice to know if the bonuses stack , but it's already 1944 so...
At the beginning I thought he was just going to say the worst thing to do was to play France, that's it just france
That intro trippy ngl.
Where does bitter steel get his countryballs ?
This is why I only play with player lead peace conference’s
Tried this challenge and the soviets are at 95 percent capitulation at late 1942 while I’m still pushing through italy
I like how the background music gives off “sad French” vibes…it truly is gunna be depressing playing free france
i bet u cant do no military factories challange when you beg evryone for equipment
bittersteal, equestria at war when?