Yeah, who would think that loading: Free Armor pen based on crit; Free extra damage based on crit; Free Bloodthirsty; Free ATK SPD; Free Tiamat; Free Execute on minions; All for the low low price of 30 mana.
The most memorable comment about akshan was Skooch’s description of akshan being that one kid in the playground who keeps making up new powers for himself
i watched throught champion spotlights and for samira and nilah they literally wrote sentences like "the new tilt queen is here" and "make your opponents rage with this ability". i couldn't believe it. they blatantly prioritized having rich losers insta buy the new champs and their skins that cost more than an indie game so they get to 1v9 while the rest of the playerbase will be having a bad time *by design*. imo how a champion feels to play *against* is 9 times more important than how it is to play them.
@@bigsmoke4592 to be honest, i was raging at the new overloaded champions, but as i started to take the game less seriously and focused more on my individual gameplay (which will recover mental health) i dont mind the new champions at all. They are stupid fun, overloaded and carry you. But they are kinda the only way to climb, they balance the bad teammates and punish enemies mistakes. If you get good at samira/kayn/akshan/viego etc, you gonna climb and you will have a good time. Just turn of chat. I was maining Xin for a long time, but i realized he is too honest and fair, i switched to viego and i know i can carry even if my team has a bad start.
My take away is adding the assassin class to any other class is bad for balance, which makes sense because Riot already has trouble balancing pure assassins so I don't know why they try to make assassin hybrids every so often.
It's even worse if you consider how much the revive breaks the entire game. If your team mishandles a teamfight and Akshan manages to kill the guy(s) who snacked them, there is no strategic disadvantage aside from the gold for your team. But in the mid to late game, gold hardly matters anyway.
@@Donnerbalken28 yeah idk what riot was thinking. Did they not see how disruptive old mercy was and how much the playerbase hated it? They really need to force their developers to play the damn game.
i mean even if it procs revive only on kills it would still be broken, but it procs on ASSISTS ON A GODDAMN ADC Even Draven passive that is just some extra gold only procs on kills, why does Akshan late-game-instant-win passive procs on assists is beyond design stupidity
Akshan is quite overloaded, but his E is so much fun to use. I am fine if they remove his absolver, or rework him so long as he keeps the grappling hook.
I say take away his q or his bs 2 free AAs from his passive, I honestly don't mind the other parts, it's the fact he gets such a free early game with his good poke potential that let's him turn into a problem.
Every champ has like one ability that, just screams “I am____” Akshan’s is definitely his E, they could change his whole kit, but as long as they keep his voice lines and E, it’ll still be him imo
yeah imo they need to unbullshit every single ability & passive of his and center him around his grapple hook. edit: also remove reset or restrict it like darius resets
@@snowpegasi he has the 2 AA because he is an assasin with low range and the reason he thrives in sololanes is because unlike nilah he was designed as a sololaner.
akshan is the definition of "but wait, there's more!" his passive alone has more text than nasus' entire kit. not only it has a lot of words, it has a lot of intricacies as well you can attack twice, and your attacks and Q apply a stack. if you hit an enemy 3 times, they take a burst of damage. but wait there's more! if you cancel your second auto, you gain movement speed instead. but that's not all! if you proc your passive on a champion, you gain a shield! AND THAT'S ONLY HIS PASSIVE! his other abilitiesm like Q extends infinitely as long as there's targets, guaranteeing he has a neutral game as if he's behind, he can just poke you from afar with minion extending Q then we get to his W. you get bonus gold just for avenging a fallen ally. not only that, YOU REVIVE THEM AS WELL! as if earning bonus gold wasn't enough. then it's active allows you to camoflage as long as you're near a wall. forcing laners to get control wards or be jumpscared by a ganking akshan
fascinating how "overpowered" a character could be, yet have so little players of note who can consistently perform with him. Drututt, Yamato, and that one Korean one trick, Migung I believe.
Riot then: gnar's boomerang would be too strong if we keep it without limitations, so let's make it do small damage after the first hit, give him long cooldown if you don't catch it and it stop after hitting the first target Riot now: haha boomerang go brrrrr
@@snowpegasi threshes kit was perfect whhen he came out in a sense where it was future proof and his balancing revolved mostly around how well his passive works
@@nechocat1234 The fact that his empowered AA was tied to his hook was lowkey op, his lamp giving the entire team a shield, and the box dealing dmg to everyone and not only the first wall
For real for real. Give his passive to a bruiser! His ultimate to a marksman! The revive and the hook to some weird support and the stealth and hook to an assassin and make another duo character, I dunno! Something more coherent than... Whatever Akshan is!
They refuse to have champions like Malphite, Cho'gath and Asol their actual size in game because it would be game breaking, but lore accurate. Meanwhile they keep Akshans revive, because THAT'S not game breaking and I guess in this case we care about lore accuracy since it's a naked shirtless man that could sell more skins huh
@@sol-hunter2332 yeah because the community hates him and rightly so, Riot is often times out of touch with community sentiment like with the $200 Jhin skin
It's pretty telling that his ult didn't even get its own section in the video. it's just super situational, not to say underpowered, to somewhat balance the rest of his crazy kit. imo if they wanna keep the revive-mechanic on akshan (which seems to be pretty important lorewise) they should bake it into the ultimate. Ults are meant to be a bit gamebreaking. (see global range ults, zilean ult, etc)
Because aksha desgin is have a strong passive with a 3 or 4 diferents thing and riot balance that given him a shit ultimate.... but IF vars said that than hes argument falls off
As both a Genshin and LoL player, holy fucking shit that would be a horrible thing to witness You know what, let me try to emulate what that would look like Passive: Dirty Fighting Upon using Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan applies one stack of Light-Infused Vindicating Condemnation When an enemy receives three stacks of Light-Infused Cleansing Condemnation, Akshan deals a burst of extra damage to the enemy, removing all Light-Infused Vindicating Condemnation stacks Additionally, when Akshan uses Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan gains an Evil-Repelling Luminous Screen, shielding himself for 5 seconds, Evil-Repelling Luminous Screen has a 10s cooldown If Akshan Sprints after using Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan receives a Boon of the Audacious Avenger, gaining 25% Movement Speed for 5 seconds After each individual attack of Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan fires an additional second projectile, which also applies Light-Infused Vindicating Condemnation And I didn't even add LoL's numbers and ratios that appear in each ability description
akshan: *shoots* heal, shields, marks, gains move speed, revives, get gold, stealth, regen, clone, buff, debuff, consume a nonexistent mark for extra passive 💀💀
Just watched a depressing and anger inducing history video, so a new Vars upload dunking on Akshan is just what I needed to cheer me up a bit before bed. One thing you forgot to mention water Samira (Nilah) when listing the marksmen released since Jinx. Otherwise, this is great video! Ty for the quality content as always
Nilah is so terrible, like at least with the rope boy they justify his bullshit in the lore, meanwhile Nilah has probably the most uninspired kit attached to something that actually has the potential to be interesting, being someone using a demon to feed on their joy, but it isn’t reflected in how she plays at all.
@@falcoatilla3620 Hello Future Me’s video titled “The US Covered Up Japan’s Worst Warcrime. Here’s How.” on Unit 731. As a Chinese diaspora, the subject matter of the video is a painful subject, but it’s important to learn about history (especially the most horrific parts).
On the topic of the revive breaking the rules of the game: every champion breaks the rules of the game in some fashion, at least technically. Some of them are more obvious, like how champions that can scale infinitely have scaling abilities at all, or how Ornn can make items strictly better, or hiw Ziggs can just delete a tower. But others might not immediately stand out, like how Garen can just regen more than anyone else, or how Yuumi can grant her damage to her carry. All of the cool things we get to do in the game are breaking the rules in some capacity. It's the exact same phenomenon as something like Magic the Gathering. When you play a creature, you have to wait a turn before you can use it...unless it has Haste, then you can break that rule. When you attack, you have to tap that creature...unless you have Vigilance, then you can break that rule. You can only draw one card per turn...unless you play a card that lets you break that rule. All of that said, Akshan breaks so many rules at once that it loops back around to being unfun instead of being a cool addition to the game.
If they really want to keep his revive becuz of lore accuracy, then the least they can do is moving the revive to his ult and it can only revive one person. I think with this it would result to some kind of counter play since you can body block the ult
An idea for a series you can make to follow this series is "How would I fix ...?", where you talk about the ways to address the problems with a champion's kit and how that would integrate with the rest of the system.
Remove the revive, no compensation buffs. I wanna see how much of his WR is just him denying comeback potential via revives. If he takes a big WR hit, buff other parts of his kit later on, but it needs to go
I love how Akshan revive has no CD in ARAM while Ornn passive does I love watching 1 minute death timer people respawn every single fight and just brute forcing through
I played an ARAM with an Akshan and the whole team died and then we all got revived again. Even I thought it was bullshit... Think we still lost though, so whatever.
Yes, it's bullshit, because when ARAM used to be brainless fun, champs like Akshan made it so that you couldn't destroy towers or pushed mindlessly due to him reviving all his 4 teammates from just one kill. His W passive should be switched to an R with the capacity to revive only one teammate.
1:03 "He's been mostly nerfed" no he's not, if so, he's been mostly buffed. The only real nerf was when he got his E base damage lowered again. Most of the changes to him are to make him mostly a feast or famine champ (sorry for any misspell english isn't my main lenguage)
video is kinda good, fair points tbh. Altho I disagree on the disadvantage state, askhan has legit a dogshit disadvantage, he's just an assassin bad at assassinating but given the tools to be fed. His laning is annoying, yes but so is Lucian or Tristana that we often see go solo lane, and they function more like traditional marksmen when fed, while akshan is way less useful when not ahead. all in all he's strong because he's like Katarina, works well in chaos and he also takes away one of 4 things from any comp : A real assassin, a real mage/control champ if played mid, a bruiser, or a tank if played top.
How are we talking about Samira needing to fight her way out if she goes in, but then argues that Akshan has no such weakness because his E resets on kills??? Akshan having more range therefore not needing to be inside the enemy team is a better argument since Samira can easily get out too if she gets a reset.
If they did Akshans revive as it is in the lore, I wouldnt even mid so much. The problem is though, that not only does he revive everyone instead of one, but even needs an assist only rather than getting the kill himself is what annoys me the most.
12:50 finally someone said it. Changing fundamental aspects of any game for the sake of a gimmick in a character's kit is awful regardless of weather that change makes the character worse (something like making death timers 1.2 times longer) or better. It is fine to alter interactions like Kayn wall walking (should not heal though) or Evelyn perma stealth. But to change an other wise universal mechanic is a bad choice as it is cheating. Imagine you went to TF gold passive and added that he could sell items at 100% purchase price, or just giving the ability to buy items with the same text to only one champ (like two IEs or two life line items).
Twisted Fates passive used to give 2 gold to all team members for last hitting, they removed it because it was to strong. Zileans passive used to give extra XP to all team mates, again removed because it was too strong. If Akshan was an earlier champion the revive would be removed around the same time they got rid of the Revive summoner spell.
Yeah I could mention Zilean's ult as well but that one has indication and even if you kill the guy you have like 3 seconds to do anything else. Did not know that TF passive was global though.
@@Ai-jr4ou If I remember correctly they got rid of it around season 2 or 3, at the same time they got rid of most of the buff and gold per minute items - the justification at the time was to remove hidden/non-obvious power. Quite a few of the older champions had global passives or ultimate's that were then reworked or reduced in range.
Something I think would help but not fix his revive is to make it so he can only revive one person that the enemy killed. Often times in team fights one person gets most if not all of the kills meaning if they get 3 kills he only gets one revive. Which yes is still crazy but it helps and I definitely think he needs to be the one to kill them not just an assist adding more risk to him working to get a revive. Not perfect but it helps... a bit As a side note this would also make for a cool bit of lore because if he can only revive one person you could have a story where someone kills 2 or more people that he really cared about and once he gets the scoundrel he would have to choose who to revive and it would be heart reaching for him.
@@ruschev2 most likely cause miss fortune was the only one he killed. If someone gets a cuadra kill though in theory akshan could kill that person to revive all 4 teammates
The other way is to make him give -20% to death timer per kill. So that team at least can cheer up like heey man get them get them, lets penta...and so on.
The best way to balance his revive is to give him some sort of fucking demerit when he uses it. Right now, it's a fuxking passive that gives him bonus gold whenever it procced, and gives infinite camo, increased mana regen, and blood scent on active.
Still a little baffled that a revive mechanica like that is still in the game. Even if he gets just one person back up, it can be enough to wildly swing a game.
He really is just the main character whenever he's on the Rift. The amount of buffs he gets for literally existing because of his passives alone is ridiculous 😅
you nailed it on this one, I honestly do think too many ideas were squished together to fit into Akshan. I love Akshan's character concept when he was released but saw the problems quickly when he came out. Renata Glasc has a fair and balanced revive design which shows Riot found better ways of using such ideas, Akshan's revive is BS though it can really turn any game
Im an Akshan main too. People keep complaining about Akshan only because they have no clue how to play against him. They keep blaming the revive passive but they keep dying to him instead of running.
@@bauch69 The idea of killing the enemy is map control. If you can't stay and do stuff that was an useless fight. And yes you can always get caught by another enemy. But then it would be a 1 for 1. If you get caught by Akshan it's not. His mere presence changes the game.
*in voice of an old grandpa* "Back in my time, all the champions had the power to insta revive every 300 seconds, but riot removed that power from the game"
I actually like Akshan, don't play him personally, but idk he's always just kinda felt cool to me. Never hate playing against him, and I hate a LOT of champions.
Ok i wanna know which psycho got the idea to give akshan a revive. If u look at other games, take Sage, Lifeline and Mercy, they are SUPPORTS who have to facetank the enemy team and "channel" for a set amount of time to res ONE teammate, then theres akshan, who just does his job and has a potential 4 man res. Its like we're in a mineshaft and you can either mine, collect, transport, or sort ores. But then theres one guy who is like if he cant do mining he can transport too. And then its like if he does EITHER of those, he gets a free meal, a month of free rent and 2 new fkin cars
Another big problem yoh left out completely is his snowballing. He's like Lucian mislane, but if he gets slightly ahead he can ambush and one shot you with his w. And since he's now fed, he can easily hunt down targets that recently killed his own teammates, so he now also gets bonus gold for additional kills
The real question is. Why doesn't he actually work as good as on paper? His passives should be able to carry him way more than what we actually witness. How bad are these Akhsan players anyway?
I would like you to consider from point of wiev of not ultimaletly balanced game but a game that allows those revive 4 teammates and win that way by 1 in 10.000(idk) games. Also it helps to create memories and strories to form stronger connection with the game. Otherwise all the matches played would be inherently more or less the same. And also as you stated there is practicality of things.
Same rules for everychampions ? Can we talk about Kayle's ms, invincibility window, and AP DPS dmg ? Can we talk about shapeshifters with 6 abilities ? OH NO, better, Viego's 18 abilities ? Zeri's unlocked Auto's ? Oh'w, uncomfortable with new champions ? Anivia's W changing the map and environment obstacles. Xayah, the self peeler ADC that oneshots you the more you get closer to her ? Garen, that executes you at +35% of your hp without any other conditions ? Malzahar, the guy that stops you to play during 3 secs ? Shen, the guy that tp everywhere on his allies or at least give them a gigantic shield peeling them unconditionnally at cast ? I don't know about rules in this game. I never knew. Rules are meant to be broken ! Having to learn more about the game and change the game management on a player level is kind of a frustrating thing i guess ? But isn't it the point ? Making the game more interesting and having to adapt to situations ? I think it's not perfect, but... it's better than before. Gatekeeping with the smurfs because the power between old and new players are huger each update and new champions though.
Im so glad they released him so absolutely overloaded, never thought Riot would help me so much quitting league. Also thanks for the video analysis to consolidate that decision, stay clean guys
You forgot to mention that on release, if he died but the enemy that killed him was killed within his assist window (and was damaged by him) he could revive himself too.
I take a massive offense to this video. Jhin isn’t the only perfect champ, Orianna is as well, I predict that with the mythic item removal we will see her shine and not get outclassed by mobility creep.
Every Akshan player I've seen does the exact same thing. Goes to the wolf camp and spin in a circle till the game is over. No kills, no jungle kills, no assists, just a bunch of deaths either by blue buff, wolf camp or enemy players.
He’s been S+ tier since release I am so extremely sick of him. They nerfed him this patch but it came with 2 compensation buffs, cuz I guess he really needed that /s
Just compare how hard it is for Renata to save one person after looking at Akshan. You give a buff, and *if* they die in that time and then *if* they score a kill in the around 2 seconds they have left they stay at 20% hp. Of course the enemy team isn't awarded a kill in this case, but again, this can affect one ally at most. Akshan says "I do what I do anyway" and gets gold like pyke and resurrects his whole team. Fun
I play Akshan a lot, I agree with most of the points made in this video with the expection that the hook shouldn't reset (it's literally the best part of his kit, keep the resets, its so fun)
I think the reset is annoying because it enables him to be the pain in the ass that he is. Darius reset isnt as bad because he needs the 5 stack and hes also melee so you can run. Akshans reset enables him to keep rushing the enemy team down so he can keep reviving his team and getting bonus gold to keep snowballing
@jordonhenderson5293 I agree with you. However, the satisfaction I feel when I'm swinging around demolishing the enemy and then swinging to the next is a feeling I can only get with Akshan. I'm fine with nerfing or removing his resurrection passive, but keep the reseting hooks. Also, if you don't get a kill with your e, your cooldown is quite long, so it balances itself out a bit imo
also, his e is really hard to get full, proper value out of. everyone who whines about it has never once known the satisfaction of learning the good swing spots.
Please do a why no one plays Milio! He went from being the #`1 picked enchanter to second last above Renata! Really feel in a matter of 2 patches completely.
Well, that's an easy answer. Riot wants their pro scene to be engage supports. Milio is an anti-engage, making him an obvious pick against all in engages. But because he works exactly as he should and Riot doesn't want an enchanter meta, they nerfed him into the ground so now he's literally unplayable in comparison to when he came out. They either go all in or decide a champion shouldn't exist. They want the plays to be exciting and engaging. They don't want stalled games - all things Milio wants. So they ruined his timers and subverted his playstyle which makes him entirely unplayable because . . the point of his kit is being ignored. Of course they've recently "buffed" his Q, but his Q is not only his last maxed ability, but he cannot reasonably go AP and it's so minimal to his entire kit that it might as well have been not done at all. So until the balance team decides they're tired of a tank, engage support meta ( Rell, Naut, Thresh, Leona, etc ) we're not getting Milio to a playable state.
So if Ahkshan didn’t have the revived aspect of his W, would he considered “ok” of a champion design? Also we all know if Vars does a Everything wrong with Yone it’s either going to be at least an hour long or not make a video since almost every video has him dunking on Yone already
He would still be overloaded but at least he won't be absolute bullshit to face, the fact that he can revive not only on kills but on takedowns makes any teamfight if you don't get rid of him first you're automatically at a disadvantage wether he's fed or not
@@nicoaraeduard3317 his lore was to be an extra in a cinematic while Gwen and Senna got the actual win, like his whole purpose on release was that he was gonna be a huge help defeating Viego and he didn't even achieve that.
@@nicoaraeduard3317literally just a Deus ex machina for Ruination, oh yeah there's just conveniently an all powerfull gun that revives people when you kill their killer that so happends to be in posession of one of the Sentinels, gee I wonder what's the cost of such an immense power that thousands of people seeked for and failed- oh wait there aren't any because that would be too good of writting to be true
I think it would be ok-ish if they removed the revive and left the movement speed and extra gold alone. It’s the same thing with Gwenn and Viego. It feels like their lore was made so that they could have broken thing, not making a balancable champion and lore from there. I love playing all three of them, but their abilities are unfair.
If I had to make a revivr ability I would make it an Ultimate, single target, = if not longer cooldown as Requiem, and a long and clearly telegraphed channel time (probably close in duration to stand united if not a second longer) that can be interrupted to stop the res and force the ability onto cooldown.
everytime when i see akhsan with soraka in aram you struggle to kill one by the end of all of them u hear akshan reviving the whole team : "Reclaimed by the light! Yadda-yadda-yadda..."
Akshan main here. I wholeheartedly agree that the revive passive is unnecessary and I would be completely fine, if not happy if it got removed. Ideally the scoundrel passive should remain but I can live with going rogue being reworked entirely. Other than that, I think akshan is presented as way stronger in the video than he actually is ingame. His ultimate is one of the most useless ultimates, if not abilities in general. Anything that isn't a ward blocks it (a detail that isn't mentioned in the video at all). Here is of the top of my head a list of things that block comeuppance: a minion (one wave blocks the entire ult), raptors, wolves, krugs,gromp, red buff, blue buff, scuttle crab,dragon, baron,herald, teammates, summons (tibbiers, daisy, mistwalkers, void ramoras, voidlings, hextech turrets, zyra plants, visible jack in the boxes), your outermost turret in all lanes, an exposed inhibitor, an exposed nexus. All that to say, if you're not extremely mispositioned, comeuppance is usually useless. Furthermore, his q having infinite range theoretically is a scam for the neutral, and mostly used to shove wave. In terms of poke, you can usually hit a good opponent only when coming out of stealth and they are the first target, or in some cases the second. You will never hit an opponent that pays attention from a q that extends off of more than one minion. Also, every single clip shown in the video had an akshan that was fed, the least fed being a 4/1 akshan that got a triplekill in the end of the clip. That also made him seem stronger than he is. Another point is that akshan has a horrible disadvantage state, especially in a lane when most everyone has a tool to get on you. Most toplaners have an engage tool to get and stay on you, or cc to lock you down. Getting on akshan means that he cannot use his heroic swing to disengage, since it ends on first champion contact, which means than he is an adc within melee range that cannot get out of melee range in the lane where most champions can run you down to your turret or dive you. Also a jungler moving in from behind Akshan can simply walk to him and he cannot use heroic swing to escape unless he finds a weird angle, which I'm willing to say is room for skill expression. Heroic swing is not a get out of jail free card. Akshan is also weak to champs that can slow him from range (Sion, chogath, aatrox), weak to displacement that cancels his heroic swing (knockups, grounds,stuns), and attack speed slows are the bane of his existence (ground slam, riposte, frozen heart). End rant. Ps, I find it weird how it also wasn't stated in the video that you can cast comeuppance while in heroic swing, or the other way around, cast and recast heroic swing while charging up comeuppance. It rarely is a useful thing to do, but there is room for skill expression in rare cases, where you can heroic swing to clear an obstacle and have comeuppance actually hit for once.
You claim that because his ult doesnt always kill its bad. I disagree, forcing enemies to sacrifice their wave/turret hp/inhib hp/ etc. Is not bad. Having to move back, giving up tempo or objectives is good for the Akshan and his team. Im not sayings its as broken as Veigo's reset bullshit, but it has its moments, just like his revive.
@@greenpinapple820 At level 9 with kraken, i can one q the entire wave, and one auto per melee creep and the wave is gone. i do use it for waveclear but if i wanted to waveclear i wouldnt be playing akshan. his ult still sucks and feels really shit to use, the entire champion is "heroic swing" and i love him, but goddamn is his ult awful 90% of the time
Still Akshan is more risky to play than a real assassin (team fighting) Yes, he can in and out but ONLY if he kills, Zed can blink back and Kha'zix can rejump and so on, Akshan's E only works if you score a kill and is easily exploitable as a escape tool when you just have to stand near him to cancel it
Here in the PH server Ahkshan is almost non-existant. I have never played with or versed an Ahkshan as long as I can remember. I don't think that nobody can play him, it's more that nobody wants to play him.
We used to have a Champ with a revive in HoN as well, however that was a Supp champ (it was a 3 min Cooldown Ult) , and there were some stringent conditions to use it. It was a 3-5 sec channel on a toombstone the ally left when they died which could be destroyed by any enemy nearby, therefore wasting the ult if the toombstone got destroyed before you finished your ult. I too feel that they made a gargantuan blunder by giving something like that on a passive.
Revive passive alone should be cornerstone of entire champion not throwaway feature on already so overloaded one. Also it's glued to skill named Going Rogue ...
I agree with the first ~60% of the video, but honestly almost EVERYTHING you said about the revive is wrong imho. "Completely bail you out of the consequences of death" - bro he is NOT REVERSING the death, you get the gold, XP, shutdown bounty, etc and keep that, none of that gets reversed. What you're referring to is something like Renata E (I think that's the revive one?), old Aatrox ult or Zilean ult or even GA, which actually deny the kill. Not only is the whole "sanctity of death in LoL" argument irrelevant to Akshan, there are so many other champs who it doesn't apply to. Second, if it applied to Soraka, it would be a HUNDRED TIMES WORSE. Even ignoring the fact that Zilean and Renata have kill denying as mechanics of their kit already (even if not in the same implementation), all Soraka would have to do is ult and ANYONE in the team killing the scoundrel (or whatever Akshan calls them) would trigger the revive! And if you change it so that only kills trigger the revive (which is honestly a horrible change - making mechanics proc only on kill is frustrating for no reason, especially on a champ whose only execute is that joke of an ult), it would be stupidly anti-synergistic with the kit of a non-damage dealer, while also making it less reliable for no good reason. Finally, about both potentially reviving 4 allies and about not having to put yourself into any risk - you can only trigger the revive by killing the guy who got those kills! The situation in which you can revive 4 people is when you, alone and without any team, kill the Viego who just wiped your team, not by killing the Nami trying to ward the river or whatever. If the enemy team can not/does not recognise that the guy who just got the quadra is now a VIP with Akshan trynna hunt them and play Protect the President then that's on them, but it certainly isn't 'going through no risk'. You can argue that the payoff is substantial, but at least it is not disproportional to the risk involved.
And on top of all of his gameplay issues, they _created_ him to take the spotlight in the Sentenials of light, sidelining other champs who already had a role in the story of the ruined king...
Akshan passive also gives a burst of damage on top of the shield. His w gives movespeed, mana regen, and true sight(iirc) of scoundrels too. and WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NEED A REVIVE?!
The Problem with Akshan is that he has passives that he dont need in his kit, the shield, the Q passive proc, infinite stealth, revive, E reset, even his ultimate procs his passive and he dont even need it. He has such a nice, cool and strong kit but because they had to put every possible assassin/marksman passive in his kit, he is just overloaded.
You could tell me akshan is the result of a riot employee's son creating their dream champ stacked with every little feature they thought were cool and I wouldn't be surprised..
Every champion gimmick is to bend the laws of the game in a certain way, Akshan revives people, Gwen is immune, Neeko is a minion, Yasuo starts the game 0/18, Viego stole Morde old ult and so on
i disagree with calling akshan revive cheating and op because most of the newer champs and even some of the older ones have some sort of "cheat ability" beacuse if u boil it down many abilities sound broken on paper or in the right circimstances examples: akshan has 4 man revive, ganr and morg ult have 2.5 sec cc on whole team, karthus undodgable team wide damage, milio team wide cleanse and range amp, renata has a revive and cc better then stuns which can also be aplied to the whole team so if u take into consideration how most champs have at least one such "broken ability" in reality its just one of many and if everyone is broken no one is at least thats what riot is going for by the looks of it.
But the thing is all the champions you mentioned, they all just have one, Akshan has 4 (not counting ult). You mentioned 4 ultimate abilities, the problem is that Akshans basic abilities are other champions ultimates. Let’s compare Sorakas ult to Akshans W. She can heal all 5 on the team and cleanse grievous wounds. Akshans W, can RESURRECT 4 people at the same time gaining extra gold AND on top of that, he can go perma camouflage. Late game Akshans W can definitely be worth more than a Soraka ult. Let’s go through some more examples you took. Gnar. Don’t stand all 5 next to a wall, easy counterplay. Morg ult I can understand to some degree, but she can be killed very easily and if she stopwatches you can walk out. Karthus R is bs and should be removed, I agree with you there. Milios ult while in practice sounds very good, a team cleanse isn’t near as useful as a team revive, and range amp will only be on one or two Allie’s, since you wouldn’t want an ADC right with your tank in the frontline. Renata W, I can very much understand, but in reality it’s a worse Akshan W, in almost every aspect. Most newer champions have one problem ability. Viegos passive, Gwens W, Nilah W, Yuumi W. You never hear anyone complain about Viegos Q, Gwens ult, Yuumi Q. It’s mostly one ability. Akshan has 4 problematic abilities/passives.
@@patrickstar3293 i agree that i picked only ultimate abilities And there definitly Are Broken non ultimate abilities Viego pasive And gwen w but i can't agree with akshan q And r being Broken his w i get Is too good e i can Also kinda understand even tho u can Stand in front of him to cancel IT but q And r Are definitly not broken
I play mainly aram. And he is by far the biggest offender in that gamemode, like literally a mass Zilean ult on his passive in every teamfight. Because of portals whom ever revived joins like 5 seconds later. He is the reason i wish we could ban champs in a aram
Vars going above and beyond because this video could just be 5 seconds long, just say the line "his rez," then roll credits, and it'd still be correct.
I’ve proposed this too my friends that the only way to balance akshans revive would be to make every champion akshan kill be revived when akshan is killed
Haven't played in the longest, but it always comes down to "you do too much outside of your role wtf!" Like can you imagine if Zed was immune to magic damage and all his CDs just reset after a takedown which means he becomes a champion again AFTER he already did his job, which is to take out the priority target? lmao.
I'm gonna give OW as an example. OW1 had the Mercy problem where sometimes Mercies would hide during a teamfight until everyone was dead to press Q (ultimate) and rez everyone on the team, IN PLACE, too, no respawn. Then devs reworked her to have rez on cooldown. 1 Rez. Not multiple rezzes. JUST 1. If Riot allowed him to only get 1 Rez to fountain ON COOLDOWN it wouldn't be so annoying and broken.
When your passives have passives you got a problem
I was saying man
Yeah, who would think that loading:
Free Armor pen based on crit;
Free extra damage based on crit;
Free Bloodthirsty;
Free ATK SPD;
Free Tiamat;
Free Execute on minions;
All for the low low price of 30 mana.
@@TheTruestZerois this nilah
@@walidkhemakhem3639Its definitely nilah's Q
@@walidkhemakhem3639 nah i think thats water samira
The most memorable comment about akshan was Skooch’s description of akshan being that one kid in the playground who keeps making up new powers for himself
Or nicky Boi
Diffent rioters thinking they were making different champions but it was all one all along
"nuh uh I have a shield every time I attack"
if you think about it, that description fits akshan's character very well
@@coffee0093"Nuh uh, I revive all my friends to win"
That smirk on his splash art. Riot were fully aware how community receive him.
Le problem enemy team?
RIOOOOOT
That was riot, saying to our faces, FK YOU!!
i watched throught champion spotlights and for samira and nilah they literally wrote sentences like "the new tilt queen is here" and "make your opponents rage with this ability". i couldn't believe it. they blatantly prioritized having rich losers insta buy the new champs and their skins that cost more than an indie game so they get to 1v9 while the rest of the playerbase will be having a bad time *by design*.
imo how a champion feels to play *against* is 9 times more important than how it is to play them.
@@bigsmoke4592 to be honest, i was raging at the new overloaded champions, but as i started to take the game less seriously and focused more on my individual gameplay (which will recover mental health) i dont mind the new champions at all. They are stupid fun, overloaded and carry you. But they are kinda the only way to climb, they balance the bad teammates and punish enemies mistakes. If you get good at samira/kayn/akshan/viego etc, you gonna climb and you will have a good time. Just turn of chat.
I was maining Xin for a long time, but i realized he is too honest and fair, i switched to viego and i know i can carry even if my team has a bad start.
My take away is adding the assassin class to any other class is bad for balance, which makes sense because Riot already has trouble balancing pure assassins so I don't know why they try to make assassin hybrids every so often.
It's because assassins rake in skin cash!
you could remove the words assassin and pure from this statement and it would still hold true.
We need a tank assassin asap
Where's my assasin assasin hybrid? He assasinates people but twice as fast and with no coutnerplay. Coming in league in 2024.
@@bobfrank7339vi, jax, pantheon, Tryndamere have entered the chat
When you said "Its cheating, he's breaking the rules" I could only Imagine Akshan with a bat saying "rules are made to be broken"
akshawn def the type of person to say "nuh uh" when youre playing games as a kid.
Like buildings! Or... *people*
"I don't break the rules, I *bend* them"
"I know someone who followed the the rules. She's dead".
"Well if it isn't sentinel serious. Look at all of the rules I'm breaking."
The most crazy thing about akshan is that he is broken enough without his revive
To me, it all boils down to the revive. There is just no reason what-so-ever for it to be there. He would probably be fine without it.
Of course there is a reason. Being a infinitely stupid plotpoint in an event filled with stupid plotpoints
It's even worse if you consider how much the revive breaks the entire game. If your team mishandles a teamfight and Akshan manages to kill the guy(s) who snacked them, there is no strategic disadvantage aside from the gold for your team. But in the mid to late game, gold hardly matters anyway.
@@Donnerbalken28 yeah idk what riot was thinking. Did they not see how disruptive old mercy was and how much the playerbase hated it? They really need to force their developers to play the damn game.
i mean even if it procs revive only on kills it would still be broken, but it procs on ASSISTS
ON A GODDAMN ADC
Even Draven passive that is just some extra gold only procs on kills, why does Akshan late-game-instant-win passive procs on assists is beyond design stupidity
Akshan is quite overloaded, but his E is so much fun to use. I am fine if they remove his absolver, or rework him so long as he keeps the grappling hook.
I say take away his q or his bs 2 free AAs from his passive, I honestly don't mind the other parts, it's the fact he gets such a free early game with his good poke potential that let's him turn into a problem.
Every champ has like one ability that, just screams “I am____”
Akshan’s is definitely his E, they could change his whole kit, but as long as they keep his voice lines and E, it’ll still be him imo
yeah imo they need to unbullshit every single ability & passive of his and center him around his grapple hook.
edit: also remove reset or restrict it like darius resets
I wish his E had some cc when it hits someone, or we could cast it on a enemy and spin around then it would be funny asf
@@snowpegasi he has the 2 AA because he is an assasin with low range and the reason he thrives in sololanes is because unlike nilah he was designed as a sololaner.
akshan is the definition of "but wait, there's more!"
his passive alone has more text than nasus' entire kit. not only it has a lot of words, it has a lot of intricacies as well
you can attack twice, and your attacks and Q apply a stack. if you hit an enemy 3 times, they take a burst of damage.
but wait there's more! if you cancel your second auto, you gain movement speed instead. but that's not all! if you proc your passive on a champion, you gain a shield!
AND THAT'S ONLY HIS PASSIVE!
his other abilitiesm like Q extends infinitely as long as there's targets, guaranteeing he has a neutral game as if he's behind, he can just poke you from afar with minion extending Q
then we get to his W. you get bonus gold just for avenging a fallen ally. not only that, YOU REVIVE THEM AS WELL! as if earning bonus gold wasn't enough. then it's active allows you to camoflage as long as you're near a wall. forcing laners to get control wards or be jumpscared by a ganking akshan
You also get a blood scent style chase down when in camo as well, more movement speed, a tell on where the target is, and ;for some reason, mana regen
but that's not all! His Q gives him movement speed if it hits a champion!
Pretty sure this was longer than Nasus' kit
U forgot to mention that his passive does magic damage and he can trigger its three hit MULTUPLE times in a few seconds
You also forgot that his w gives him pretty good bonus mana regen when he is going in direction of a scoundrel
fascinating how "overpowered" a character could be, yet have so little players of note who can consistently perform with him. Drututt, Yamato, and that one Korean one trick, Migung I believe.
Riot then: gnar's boomerang would be too strong if we keep it without limitations, so let's make it do small damage after the first hit, give him long cooldown if you don't catch it and it stop after hitting the first target
Riot now: haha boomerang go brrrrr
pretty much aakshan
Um actually it's an avengerang it's completely different
Gnars has way more range, if you catch gnar he can e away, you can block akshan e. He’s good obviously but part of it is a skill issue
@@ryanpower1291☝️🤓
Vars: every champ has their problems
Me: wait, what about...
Vars: Except Jhin
Me: OK, now we're speaking the same language
What about Thresh, his kit is pretty well balanced and designed?
@@snowpegasi threshes kit was perfect whhen he came out in a sense where it was future proof and his balancing revolved mostly around how well his passive works
@@snowpegasikinda, but not really he had so many things removed, but it was so long ago that most people don't remember
@@nechocat1234 The fact that his empowered AA was tied to his hook was lowkey op, his lamp giving the entire team a shield, and the box dealing dmg to everyone and not only the first wall
Haha yeah! Reddit's favorite champion! Haha 4 4 4!
I despise Jhin, it's such an useless champion.
They could quite literally split his abilities/passives into 3 different champs and still have a set of really good champs in theory
For real for real. Give his passive to a bruiser! His ultimate to a marksman! The revive and the hook to some weird support and the stealth and hook to an assassin and make another duo character, I dunno! Something more coherent than... Whatever Akshan is!
They refuse to have champions like Malphite, Cho'gath and Asol their actual size in game because it would be game breaking, but lore accurate. Meanwhile they keep Akshans revive, because THAT'S not game breaking and I guess in this case we care about lore accuracy since it's a naked shirtless man that could sell more skins huh
Yet despite being a shirtless man, he has like... two skins.
@@sol-hunter2332 yeah because the community hates him and rightly so, Riot is often times out of touch with community sentiment like with the $200 Jhin skin
the revive isn't game breaking though, it rarely impacts the course of a game
@@cottonwhyynah you gotta be baiting why kinda 0 IQ statement is that
@@minimonkeymasher8888 i've played like 200+ games of akshan and the revive mattered in like 2 of those games
it's like stealth archer build in skyrim.totally busted
It's pretty telling that his ult didn't even get its own section in the video. it's just super situational, not to say underpowered, to somewhat balance the rest of his crazy kit.
imo if they wanna keep the revive-mechanic on akshan (which seems to be pretty important lorewise) they should bake it into the ultimate. Ults are meant to be a bit gamebreaking. (see global range ults, zilean ult, etc)
Because aksha desgin is have a strong passive with a 3 or 4 diferents thing and riot balance that given him a shit ultimate.... but IF vars said that than hes argument falls off
@@gabrielwiroski vars video of akshan is already meaningless and basically what a crybaby would do
Imagine if the people who made Genshin skill descriptions worked for Riot. You'd get more text than the Bible for some champs
As both a Genshin and LoL player, holy fucking shit that would be a horrible thing to witness
You know what, let me try to emulate what that would look like
Passive: Dirty Fighting
Upon using Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan applies one stack of Light-Infused Vindicating Condemnation
When an enemy receives three stacks of Light-Infused Cleansing Condemnation, Akshan deals a burst of extra damage to the enemy, removing all Light-Infused Vindicating Condemnation stacks
Additionally, when Akshan uses Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan gains an Evil-Repelling Luminous Screen, shielding himself for 5 seconds, Evil-Repelling Luminous Screen has a 10s cooldown
If Akshan Sprints after using Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan receives a Boon of the Audacious Avenger, gaining 25% Movement Speed for 5 seconds
After each individual attack of Normal Attack: Bolts of Righteousness, Akshan fires an additional second projectile, which also applies Light-Infused Vindicating Condemnation
And I didn't even add LoL's numbers and ratios that appear in each ability description
@@julenkalebbeltran1092You nailed it. Please never work for Riot lol.
Seriously tho, Genshin description are some of thr worst stuff I've read
@@Auri-u6q their texting in general is pretty bad and redundant.
akshan: *shoots*
heal, shields, marks, gains move speed, revives, get gold, stealth, regen, clone, buff, debuff, consume a nonexistent mark for extra passive 💀💀
Just watched a depressing and anger inducing history video, so a new Vars upload dunking on Akshan is just what I needed to cheer me up a bit before bed.
One thing you forgot to mention water Samira (Nilah) when listing the marksmen released since Jinx. Otherwise, this is great video! Ty for the quality content as always
which one
it might have been intentional since nilah doesnt play like a marksmen at all shes rly a diver who buys crit items
Nilah is so terrible, like at least with the rope boy they justify his bullshit in the lore, meanwhile Nilah has probably the most uninspired kit attached to something that actually has the potential to be interesting, being someone using a demon to feed on their joy, but it isn’t reflected in how she plays at all.
@@falcoatilla3620 Hello Future Me’s video titled “The US Covered Up Japan’s Worst Warcrime. Here’s How.” on Unit 731. As a Chinese diaspora, the subject matter of the video is a painful subject, but it’s important to learn about history (especially the most horrific parts).
@@Seelie_Serenus oh yeah i'm german and the way the japanese government handles it's past crimes is just baffling to me
On the topic of the revive breaking the rules of the game: every champion breaks the rules of the game in some fashion, at least technically. Some of them are more obvious, like how champions that can scale infinitely have scaling abilities at all, or how Ornn can make items strictly better, or hiw Ziggs can just delete a tower. But others might not immediately stand out, like how Garen can just regen more than anyone else, or how Yuumi can grant her damage to her carry. All of the cool things we get to do in the game are breaking the rules in some capacity.
It's the exact same phenomenon as something like Magic the Gathering. When you play a creature, you have to wait a turn before you can use it...unless it has Haste, then you can break that rule. When you attack, you have to tap that creature...unless you have Vigilance, then you can break that rule. You can only draw one card per turn...unless you play a card that lets you break that rule.
All of that said, Akshan breaks so many rules at once that it loops back around to being unfun instead of being a cool addition to the game.
i think the phrase that could be made here is "parasitic design" for akshan.
If they really want to keep his revive becuz of lore accuracy, then the least they can do is moving the revive to his ult and it can only revive one person. I think with this it would result to some kind of counter play since you can body block the ult
Nah
That is a good idea
Why would you want to put already situational mechanic on one of the worst ults in the game?
Like Zilian basically, a very conditional revive
@@walkelftexasranger In what universe is reviving your allies "situational"?
Stealth asassin with a waveclear, poke, sustain, engage/disengage and ability to revive allies.
An idea for a series you can make to follow this series is "How would I fix ...?", where you talk about the ways to address the problems with a champion's kit and how that would integrate with the rest of the system.
Remove the revive, no compensation buffs.
I wanna see how much of his WR is just him denying comeback potential via revives.
If he takes a big WR hit, buff other parts of his kit later on, but it needs to go
He'd actually need buffs then tho
Dude deals basically no damage once mid game is reached.
XD
@@jaishkhan7442 u must not have ever played against an akshan then
The revive will stay. Deal with it kiddo
@@rehmanrohanyone2147 what kiddo ur 13 years old
So this turned into a 'why you should play akshan' video for me
Ability designer of Akshan was *that* kid that pulled the rocket launcher out they butt whenever playing Rock, Paper, Scissors.
the large amount of extremely overloaded marksmen makes me thing that important people on the balance team main marksmen.
Bro could tell everything wrong with Arkshan in LESS than 2 hours! Bro is a legend
I love how Akshan revive has no CD in ARAM while Ornn passive does
I love watching 1 minute death timer people respawn every single fight and just brute forcing through
And Ivern's is useless. And Zileans gets nerfed AH.
I played an ARAM with an Akshan and the whole team died and then we all got revived again. Even I thought it was bullshit... Think we still lost though, so whatever.
Yes, it's bullshit, because when ARAM used to be brainless fun, champs like Akshan made it so that you couldn't destroy towers or pushed mindlessly due to him reviving all his 4 teammates from just one kill.
His W passive should be switched to an R with the capacity to revive only one teammate.
@@soulstalker4624revive 1 teammate only on kill, and only if killed by R
@@NTTofMistery Yes, that's how it should be.
The title is wrong, there's and "is" missing between "Everything" and "wrong"
1:03 "He's been mostly nerfed" no he's not, if so, he's been mostly buffed. The only real nerf was when he got his E base damage lowered again. Most of the changes to him are to make him mostly a feast or famine champ (sorry for any misspell english isn't my main lenguage)
video is kinda good, fair points tbh.
Altho I disagree on the disadvantage state, askhan has legit a dogshit disadvantage, he's just an assassin bad at assassinating but given the tools to be fed.
His laning is annoying, yes but so is Lucian or Tristana that we often see go solo lane, and they function more like traditional marksmen when fed, while akshan is way less useful when not ahead.
all in all he's strong because he's like Katarina, works well in chaos and he also takes away one of 4 things from any comp : A real assassin, a real mage/control champ if played mid, a bruiser, or a tank if played top.
How are we talking about Samira needing to fight her way out if she goes in, but then argues that Akshan has no such weakness because his E resets on kills???
Akshan having more range therefore not needing to be inside the enemy team is a better argument since Samira can easily get out too if she gets a reset.
If they did Akshans revive as it is in the lore, I wouldnt even mid so much. The problem is though, that not only does he revive everyone instead of one, but even needs an assist only rather than getting the kill himself is what annoys me the most.
if it was kill only it would be better
Im still looking for the skill button to create a sun when I play Aurelion
@@Inastewpopotogo well you can create a black hole now. And call in a massive meteorstrike. that part of his gameplayupdate I actually like
12:50 finally someone said it. Changing fundamental aspects of any game for the sake of a gimmick in a character's kit is awful regardless of weather that change makes the character worse (something like making death timers 1.2 times longer) or better. It is fine to alter interactions like Kayn wall walking (should not heal though) or Evelyn perma stealth. But to change an other wise universal mechanic is a bad choice as it is cheating. Imagine you went to TF gold passive and added that he could sell items at 100% purchase price, or just giving the ability to buy items with the same text to only one champ (like two IEs or two life line items).
Twisted Fates passive used to give 2 gold to all team members for last hitting, they removed it because it was to strong. Zileans passive used to give extra XP to all team mates, again removed because it was too strong. If Akshan was an earlier champion the revive would be removed around the same time they got rid of the Revive summoner spell.
Yeah I could mention Zilean's ult as well but that one has indication and even if you kill the guy you have like 3 seconds to do anything else.
Did not know that TF passive was global though.
@@Ai-jr4ou If I remember correctly they got rid of it around season 2 or 3, at the same time they got rid of most of the buff and gold per minute items - the justification at the time was to remove hidden/non-obvious power. Quite a few of the older champions had global passives or ultimate's that were then reworked or reduced in range.
So I assume you are against ornn buying items from anywhere?
@@blackmarszero6528 The more you know I guess
Something I think would help but not fix his revive is to make it so he can only revive one person that the enemy killed. Often times in team fights one person gets most if not all of the kills meaning if they get 3 kills he only gets one revive. Which yes is still crazy but it helps and I definitely think he needs to be the one to kill them not just an assist adding more risk to him working to get a revive. Not perfect but it helps... a bit
As a side note this would also make for a cool bit of lore because if he can only revive one person you could have a story where someone kills 2 or more people that he really cared about and once he gets the scoundrel he would have to choose who to revive and it would be heart reaching for him.
Isn't that how it works? In the video at 4:10 you can see him killing MF only revived Tahm Kench
@@ruschev2 most likely cause miss fortune was the only one he killed. If someone gets a cuadra kill though in theory akshan could kill that person to revive all 4 teammates
The other way is to make him give -20% to death timer per kill. So that team at least can cheer up like heey man get them get them, lets penta...and so on.
The best way to balance his revive is to give him some sort of fucking demerit when he uses it. Right now, it's a fuxking passive that gives him bonus gold whenever it procced, and gives infinite camo, increased mana regen, and blood scent on active.
I like your videos bcz you explain in a way that even a beginner like me would understand unlike others that just smash the data and reddit stuff
I think lol is rly hard to understand for beginner but he makes it so ez to understand.
Still a little baffled that a revive mechanica like that is still in the game. Even if he gets just one person back up, it can be enough to wildly swing a game.
He really is just the main character whenever he's on the Rift. The amount of buffs he gets for literally existing because of his passives alone is ridiculous 😅
you nailed it on this one, I honestly do think too many ideas were squished together to fit into Akshan. I love Akshan's character concept when he was released but saw the problems quickly when he came out.
Renata Glasc has a fair and balanced revive design which shows Riot found better ways of using such ideas, Akshan's revive is BS though it can really turn any game
When a champions kit descriptions are so long that there's no time in the video for the ult.
As an Akshan main, I have been waiting for this for 2 years and am so glad it's finally here.
Im an Akshan main too. People keep complaining about Akshan only because they have no clue how to play against him. They keep blaming the revive passive but they keep dying to him instead of running.
@@bauch69 The idea of killing the enemy is map control. If you can't stay and do stuff that was an useless fight. And yes you can always get caught by another enemy. But then it would be a 1 for 1. If you get caught by Akshan it's not. His mere presence changes the game.
*in voice of an old grandpa*
"Back in my time, all the champions had the power to insta revive every 300 seconds, but riot removed that power from the game"
He also looks like Aziz Ansari in a Halloween costume.
I actually like Akshan, don't play him personally, but idk he's always just kinda felt cool to me. Never hate playing against him, and I hate a LOT of champions.
What do you play?
@@adrianbunea2006 Mostly Jungle, Pantheon has been my main since S4.
@@Orthane then it's no wonder you don't hate Akshan. It's a fair matchup
So everything other than his visuals, voice and theme?
Ok i wanna know which psycho got the idea to give akshan a revive. If u look at other games, take Sage, Lifeline and Mercy, they are SUPPORTS who have to facetank the enemy team and "channel" for a set amount of time to res ONE teammate, then theres akshan, who just does his job and has a potential 4 man res. Its like we're in a mineshaft and you can either mine, collect, transport, or sort ores. But then theres one guy who is like if he cant do mining he can transport too. And then its like if he does EITHER of those, he gets a free meal, a month of free rent and 2 new fkin cars
Another big problem yoh left out completely is his snowballing. He's like Lucian mislane, but if he gets slightly ahead he can ambush and one shot you with his w. And since he's now fed, he can easily hunt down targets that recently killed his own teammates, so he now also gets bonus gold for additional kills
The real question is. Why doesn't he actually work as good as on paper? His passives should be able to carry him way more than what we actually witness. How bad are these Akhsan players anyway?
so all i hear is that lore wise as a rule breaker he is perfectly designed
I would like you to consider from point of wiev of not ultimaletly balanced game but a game that allows those revive 4 teammates and win that way by 1 in 10.000(idk) games. Also it helps to create memories and strories to form stronger connection with the game. Otherwise all the matches played would be inherently more or less the same. And also as you stated there is practicality of things.
I said I already main this champ you don't have to sell it to me!
Same rules for everychampions ? Can we talk about Kayle's ms, invincibility window, and AP DPS dmg ?
Can we talk about shapeshifters with 6 abilities ? OH NO, better, Viego's 18 abilities ?
Zeri's unlocked Auto's ? Oh'w, uncomfortable with new champions ?
Anivia's W changing the map and environment obstacles.
Xayah, the self peeler ADC that oneshots you the more you get closer to her ?
Garen, that executes you at +35% of your hp without any other conditions ?
Malzahar, the guy that stops you to play during 3 secs ?
Shen, the guy that tp everywhere on his allies or at least give them a gigantic shield peeling them unconditionnally at cast ?
I don't know about rules in this game. I never knew.
Rules are meant to be broken !
Having to learn more about the game and change the game management on a player level is kind of a frustrating thing i guess ?
But isn't it the point ? Making the game more interesting and having to adapt to situations ?
I think it's not perfect, but... it's better than before.
Gatekeeping with the smurfs because the power between old and new players are huger each update and new champions though.
I have banned this champ in every game I’ve played since his release
Im so glad they released him so absolutely overloaded, never thought Riot would help me so much quitting league. Also thanks for the video analysis to consolidate that decision, stay clean guys
You forgot to mention that on release, if he died but the enemy that killed him was killed within his assist window (and was damaged by him) he could revive himself too.
I take a massive offense to this video. Jhin isn’t the only perfect champ, Orianna is as well, I predict that with the mythic item removal we will see her shine and not get outclassed by mobility creep.
Every Akshan player I've seen does the exact same thing. Goes to the wolf camp and spin in a circle till the game is over. No kills, no jungle kills, no assists, just a bunch of deaths either by blue buff, wolf camp or enemy players.
I like how Vars talks about how Akshan just ignores the rules… which is also like, his entire personality XD
He’s been S+ tier since release I am so extremely sick of him.
They nerfed him this patch but it came with 2 compensation buffs, cuz I guess he really needed that /s
Just compare how hard it is for Renata to save one person after looking at Akshan. You give a buff, and *if* they die in that time and then *if* they score a kill in the around 2 seconds they have left they stay at 20% hp. Of course the enemy team isn't awarded a kill in this case, but again, this can affect one ally at most. Akshan says "I do what I do anyway" and gets gold like pyke and resurrects his whole team. Fun
I play Akshan a lot, I agree with most of the points made in this video with the expection that the hook shouldn't reset (it's literally the best part of his kit, keep the resets, its so fun)
I think the reset is annoying because it enables him to be the pain in the ass that he is. Darius reset isnt as bad because he needs the 5 stack and hes also melee so you can run. Akshans reset enables him to keep rushing the enemy team down so he can keep reviving his team and getting bonus gold to keep snowballing
@jordonhenderson5293 I agree with you. However, the satisfaction I feel when I'm swinging around demolishing the enemy and then swinging to the next is a feeling I can only get with Akshan. I'm fine with nerfing or removing his resurrection passive, but keep the reseting hooks.
Also, if you don't get a kill with your e, your cooldown is quite long, so it balances itself out a bit imo
also, his e is really hard to get full, proper value out of. everyone who whines about it has never once known the satisfaction of learning the good swing spots.
It takes more skill to play Akshan than your wholesome Mundo. And how many times you lost to Akshan 4 man revive?
Please do a why no one plays Milio! He went from being the #`1 picked enchanter to second last above Renata! Really feel in a matter of 2 patches completely.
He is not fun to play at all
Well, that's an easy answer. Riot wants their pro scene to be engage supports. Milio is an anti-engage, making him an obvious pick against all in engages. But because he works exactly as he should and Riot doesn't want an enchanter meta, they nerfed him into the ground so now he's literally unplayable in comparison to when he came out. They either go all in or decide a champion shouldn't exist.
They want the plays to be exciting and engaging. They don't want stalled games - all things Milio wants. So they ruined his timers and subverted his playstyle which makes him entirely unplayable because . . the point of his kit is being ignored. Of course they've recently "buffed" his Q, but his Q is not only his last maxed ability, but he cannot reasonably go AP and it's so minimal to his entire kit that it might as well have been not done at all. So until the balance team decides they're tired of a tank, engage support meta ( Rell, Naut, Thresh, Leona, etc ) we're not getting Milio to a playable state.
So if Ahkshan didn’t have the revived aspect of his W, would he considered “ok” of a champion design?
Also we all know if Vars does a Everything wrong with Yone it’s either going to be at least an hour long or not make a video since almost every video has him dunking on Yone already
Yes and lorewise his revive has zero reasons to exists
He would still be overloaded but at least he won't be absolute bullshit to face, the fact that he can revive not only on kills but on takedowns makes any teamfight if you don't get rid of him first you're automatically at a disadvantage wether he's fed or not
@@nicoaraeduard3317 his lore was to be an extra in a cinematic while Gwen and Senna got the actual win, like his whole purpose on release was that he was gonna be a huge help defeating Viego and he didn't even achieve that.
@@nicoaraeduard3317literally just a Deus ex machina for Ruination, oh yeah there's just conveniently an all powerfull gun that revives people when you kill their killer that so happends to be in posession of one of the Sentinels, gee I wonder what's the cost of such an immense power that thousands of people seeked for and failed- oh wait there aren't any because that would be too good of writting to be true
@@nicoaraeduard3317are you do you have the stupid????
Ever read the lore?? 2 sentences in and u are wrong
His passive is appropriately named. He is fighting dirty, this man has a 1 hit 2 hit and 3 hit passive. IN JUST HIS PASSIVE.
I think it would be ok-ish if they removed the revive and left the movement speed and extra gold alone.
It’s the same thing with Gwenn and Viego. It feels like their lore was made so that they could have broken thing, not making a balancable champion and lore from there. I love playing all three of them, but their abilities are unfair.
If I had to make a revivr ability I would make it an Ultimate, single target, = if not longer cooldown as Requiem, and a long and clearly telegraphed channel time (probably close in duration to stand united if not a second longer) that can be interrupted to stop the res and force the ability onto cooldown.
Best champ in the game. Yall are tight rn huh?
everytime when i see akhsan with soraka in aram you struggle to kill one by the end of all of them u hear akshan reviving the whole team : "Reclaimed by the light! Yadda-yadda-yadda..."
Akshan main here. I wholeheartedly agree that the revive passive is unnecessary and I would be completely fine, if not happy if it got removed. Ideally the scoundrel passive should remain but I can live with going rogue being reworked entirely. Other than that, I think akshan is presented as way stronger in the video than he actually is ingame. His ultimate is one of the most useless ultimates, if not abilities in general. Anything that isn't a ward blocks it (a detail that isn't mentioned in the video at all). Here is of the top of my head a list of things that block comeuppance: a minion (one wave blocks the entire ult), raptors, wolves, krugs,gromp, red buff, blue buff, scuttle crab,dragon, baron,herald, teammates, summons (tibbiers, daisy, mistwalkers, void ramoras, voidlings, hextech turrets, zyra plants, visible jack in the boxes), your outermost turret in all lanes, an exposed inhibitor, an exposed nexus. All that to say, if you're not extremely mispositioned, comeuppance is usually useless. Furthermore, his q having infinite range theoretically is a scam for the neutral, and mostly used to shove wave. In terms of poke, you can usually hit a good opponent only when coming out of stealth and they are the first target, or in some cases the second. You will never hit an opponent that pays attention from a q that extends off of more than one minion. Also, every single clip shown in the video had an akshan that was fed, the least fed being a 4/1 akshan that got a triplekill in the end of the clip. That also made him seem stronger than he is. Another point is that akshan has a horrible disadvantage state, especially in a lane when most everyone has a tool to get on you. Most toplaners have an engage tool to get and stay on you, or cc to lock you down. Getting on akshan means that he cannot use his heroic swing to disengage, since it ends on first champion contact, which means than he is an adc within melee range that cannot get out of melee range in the lane where most champions can run you down to your turret or dive you. Also a jungler moving in from behind Akshan can simply walk to him and he cannot use heroic swing to escape unless he finds a weird angle, which I'm willing to say is room for skill expression. Heroic swing is not a get out of jail free card. Akshan is also weak to champs that can slow him from range (Sion, chogath, aatrox), weak to displacement that cancels his heroic swing (knockups, grounds,stuns), and attack speed slows are the bane of his existence (ground slam, riposte, frozen heart). End rant.
Ps, I find it weird how it also wasn't stated in the video that you can cast comeuppance while in heroic swing, or the other way around, cast and recast heroic swing while charging up comeuppance. It rarely is a useful thing to do, but there is room for skill expression in rare cases, where you can heroic swing to clear an obstacle and have comeuppance actually hit for once.
You claim that because his ult doesnt always kill its bad. I disagree, forcing enemies to sacrifice their wave/turret hp/inhib hp/ etc. Is not bad. Having to move back, giving up tempo or objectives is good for the Akshan and his team. Im not sayings its as broken as Veigo's reset bullshit, but it has its moments, just like his revive.
@@greenpinapple820 At level 9 with kraken, i can one q the entire wave, and one auto per melee creep and the wave is gone. i do use it for waveclear but if i wanted to waveclear i wouldnt be playing akshan. his ult still sucks and feels really shit to use, the entire champion is "heroic swing" and i love him, but goddamn is his ult awful 90% of the time
Still Akshan is more risky to play than a real assassin (team fighting)
Yes, he can in and out but ONLY if he kills, Zed can blink back and Kha'zix can rejump and so on, Akshan's E only works if you score a kill and is easily exploitable as a escape tool when you just have to stand near him to cancel it
Here in the PH server Ahkshan is almost non-existant. I have never played with or versed an Ahkshan as long as I can remember. I don't think that nobody can play him, it's more that nobody wants to play him.
We used to have a Champ with a revive in HoN as well, however that was a Supp champ (it was a 3 min Cooldown Ult) , and there were some stringent conditions to use it. It was a 3-5 sec channel on a toombstone the ally left when they died which could be destroyed by any enemy nearby, therefore wasting the ult if the toombstone got destroyed before you finished your ult. I too feel that they made a gargantuan blunder by giving something like that on a passive.
Revive passive alone should be cornerstone of entire champion not throwaway feature on already so overloaded one. Also it's glued to skill named Going Rogue ...
I agree with the first ~60% of the video, but honestly almost EVERYTHING you said about the revive is wrong imho.
"Completely bail you out of the consequences of death" - bro he is NOT REVERSING the death, you get the gold, XP, shutdown bounty, etc and keep that, none of that gets reversed. What you're referring to is something like Renata E (I think that's the revive one?), old Aatrox ult or Zilean ult or even GA, which actually deny the kill. Not only is the whole "sanctity of death in LoL" argument irrelevant to Akshan, there are so many other champs who it doesn't apply to.
Second, if it applied to Soraka, it would be a HUNDRED TIMES WORSE. Even ignoring the fact that Zilean and Renata have kill denying as mechanics of their kit already (even if not in the same implementation), all Soraka would have to do is ult and ANYONE in the team killing the scoundrel (or whatever Akshan calls them) would trigger the revive! And if you change it so that only kills trigger the revive (which is honestly a horrible change - making mechanics proc only on kill is frustrating for no reason, especially on a champ whose only execute is that joke of an ult), it would be stupidly anti-synergistic with the kit of a non-damage dealer, while also making it less reliable for no good reason.
Finally, about both potentially reviving 4 allies and about not having to put yourself into any risk - you can only trigger the revive by killing the guy who got those kills! The situation in which you can revive 4 people is when you, alone and without any team, kill the Viego who just wiped your team, not by killing the Nami trying to ward the river or whatever. If the enemy team can not/does not recognise that the guy who just got the quadra is now a VIP with Akshan trynna hunt them and play Protect the President then that's on them, but it certainly isn't 'going through no risk'. You can argue that the payoff is substantial, but at least it is not disproportional to the risk involved.
akshan is the best scaling champion in the game, because of his W passive
A huge issue is you should focus him down first to avoid the revive passive, but he has perma stealth so catching one out is nearly impossible.
Akshan doesn't break rules, he bends them. Ever so slightly.
I started League around when Akshan was released. So, I was just like "damn, nice swinging hot guy."
And on top of all of his gameplay issues, they _created_ him to take the spotlight in the Sentenials of light, sidelining other champs who already had a role in the story of the ruined king...
Akshan passive also gives a burst of damage on top of the shield. His w gives movespeed, mana regen, and true sight(iirc) of scoundrels too. and WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NEED A REVIVE?!
"The very first marksman assassin"
*meanwhile Quinn riding Valor under the radar*
The Problem with Akshan is that he has passives that he dont need in his kit, the shield, the Q passive proc, infinite stealth, revive, E reset, even his ultimate procs his passive and he dont even need it. He has such a nice, cool and strong kit but because they had to put every possible assassin/marksman passive in his kit, he is just overloaded.
It is a theoretical analysis. In practice, Akshan is countered by cc, and it’s e is relatively easy to interrupt
I remember back when aphelios came out when people were joking about an assassin adc because of how stupidly broken that would be.
You could tell me akshan is the result of a riot employee's son creating their dream champ stacked with every little feature they thought were cool and I wouldn't be surprised..
and then and then and...
Every champion gimmick is to bend the laws of the game in a certain way, Akshan revives people, Gwen is immune, Neeko is a minion, Yasuo starts the game 0/18, Viego stole Morde old ult and so on
i disagree with calling akshan revive cheating and op because most of the newer champs and even some of the older ones have some sort of "cheat ability" beacuse if u boil it down many abilities sound broken on paper or in the right circimstances examples: akshan has 4 man revive, ganr and morg ult have 2.5 sec cc on whole team, karthus undodgable team wide damage, milio team wide cleanse and range amp, renata has a revive and cc better then stuns which can also be aplied to the whole team so if u take into consideration how most champs have at least one such "broken ability" in reality its just one of many and if everyone is broken no one is at least thats what riot is going for by the looks of it.
But the thing is all the champions you mentioned, they all just have one, Akshan has 4 (not counting ult). You mentioned 4 ultimate abilities, the problem is that Akshans basic abilities are other champions ultimates. Let’s compare Sorakas ult to Akshans W. She can heal all 5 on the team and cleanse grievous wounds. Akshans W, can RESURRECT 4 people at the same time gaining extra gold AND on top of that, he can go perma camouflage. Late game Akshans W can definitely be worth more than a Soraka ult. Let’s go through some more examples you took. Gnar. Don’t stand all 5 next to a wall, easy counterplay. Morg ult I can understand to some degree, but she can be killed very easily and if she stopwatches you can walk out. Karthus R is bs and should be removed, I agree with you there. Milios ult while in practice sounds very good, a team cleanse isn’t near as useful as a team revive, and range amp will only be on one or two Allie’s, since you wouldn’t want an ADC right with your tank in the frontline. Renata W, I can very much understand, but in reality it’s a worse Akshan W, in almost every aspect. Most newer champions have one problem ability. Viegos passive, Gwens W, Nilah W, Yuumi W. You never hear anyone complain about Viegos Q, Gwens ult, Yuumi Q. It’s mostly one ability. Akshan has 4 problematic abilities/passives.
@@patrickstar3293 spot the low elo challenge (very hard)
@@patrickstar3293 i agree that i picked only ultimate abilities And there definitly Are Broken non ultimate abilities Viego pasive And gwen w but i can't agree with akshan q And r being Broken his w i get Is too good e i can Also kinda understand even tho u can Stand in front of him to cancel IT but q And r Are definitly not broken
I play mainly aram. And he is by far the biggest offender in that gamemode, like literally a mass Zilean ult on his passive in every teamfight. Because of portals whom ever revived joins like 5 seconds later. He is the reason i wish we could ban champs in a aram
Vars going above and beyond because this video could just be 5 seconds long, just say the line "his rez," then roll credits, and it'd still be correct.
As an Akshan main: I completely agree, but also: his E is waaay too much fun to use
babe wake up vars posted a cinematic masterpiece again
Thank god for Akshan. If revive was still a summoner then wed all have to deal with revive/teleport Sion.
I will see no slander towards Batladdin
I’ve proposed this too my friends that the only way to balance akshans revive would be to make every champion akshan kill be revived when akshan is killed
Haven't played in the longest, but it always comes down to "you do too much outside of your role wtf!" Like can you imagine if Zed was immune to magic damage and all his CDs just reset after a takedown which means he becomes a champion again AFTER he already did his job, which is to take out the priority target? lmao.
I'm gonna give OW as an example. OW1 had the Mercy problem where sometimes Mercies would hide during a teamfight until everyone was dead to press Q (ultimate) and rez everyone on the team, IN PLACE, too, no respawn. Then devs reworked her to have rez on cooldown. 1 Rez. Not multiple rezzes. JUST 1. If Riot allowed him to only get 1 Rez to fountain ON COOLDOWN it wouldn't be so annoying and broken.
8:45 Samira isn't a good example since her e resets as well and is a good escape tool