Yeah it's really upsetting to see so often, like do these people realise how they come accross? Like it's clear their allyship is entirely conditional on if you like the person or not. awful, awful stuff
@@juniorbunior142 Given some of the horrid shit, accusations, and PDF File fetishism that particular “one I refuse to name or gender” has said/had over the years, I do not feel bad. As far as I’m concerned, scum like that does not deserve respect. Trans, “cis”, male, female, whatever. If you were scum all the way up to today with no attempt of changing, you deserve to be insulted and disrespected. “That person who will not be named or gendered” by me, is no exception. INB4 people start moralizing to me: allow me to save you the typing time by saying I don’t care, you are not changing my mind on this just like how the hundreds of people before you haven’t been able to
@@John1-17 Yep, and I have every one of those, because I have no friends... jk... but it really saves time trying to find someone who has the other ones.
Its so funny cause someone in the comments pointed out how she didnt get the themes or N and she had the nastiest fucking reply, shes so awful to anyone who disagrees with her
dw they dont even understand how the stats work, type chart works, or even the tag of the series, "gotta catch em all". I would expect someone to cry if they're so new to the series despite playing the past 5 games straight to get straight up demolished by gen 6 despite how absurdly easy it is.
Even then, my little dyslexic brain could usually get through the whole game, if not at least to the elite 4, without ever comprehending a word. And I still somehow understood more of the mechanics and story than she did.
Lily gives N a "whiny crying boy" voice, while N spends almost the entirety of the game smiling at the player because he genuinely likes you and thinks you are a worthy rival to stand against him. Even in the sequel he has nothing but respect for the main character of BW. I think Lily hates N because N represents everything she isn't, someone who has the conviction to actually fight for his ideals, a gracious loser who can reflect upon his mistakes and learn from them and who people actually like.
@@Shauntheduke.Especially with how she was literally cheering when Ghestis was verbally abusing N. Like that's pretty fucked up and she's definitely not beating the allegations with that one.
@@Zorothegallade-rpgif lily is a trans person from what I’m hearing in the video it sounds like a dude But yea if that’s the case most trans people will never ever listen to anything that doesn’t agree with there warped reality 😂but yea I guess I’ll have to hear how I’m a trans phobe for saying the truth 😊
Nah, it's more like Peggy Hill refusing to open the one door in their vacation house and realizing they had a whole house and not just a tiny room to use, then complaining about how bad the service was.
i am unbearably pissed at Lily talking about how she one hit Yveltal by USING A MEGA SHE WASNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE YET- and she's so happy about it- despite the fact that the last thirty minutes of the same video was about how bad one hits are. I genuinely think she has the brain of a kindergartener
The fact that Lily can't differentiate a "thirst-trap gym leader" from a *usually* female character that shows more skin than the playable character says a lot. Like, I would absolutely let Olivia and Kukui plow me into next week, but I can also understand that that was not the main intention of their design and they are, in fact, just some silly little goobers.
You basically explained here why Tifa never felt like she was a thirst trap, especially compared to Sephiroth. That's similar in a way cause when Remake trailers came out dudebros were crying over Tifa's outfit getting a sports bra and stockings. To me, it was clear that the design changes in Remake were most likely the result of Nomura feeling their designs looked unfinished and adding some minor changes to fix that. But they were mad that she wasn't sexy enough for them, despite the fact that a male character who dresses less revealingly was had far more thirst trap energy in the first place, something the director of the OG made note of!
Doesn't like the stories. Doesn't like the characters. Doesn't like the exploration. Doesn't like team building. Doesn't like the combat. Doesn't like the side events. Likes Gardevoir. But doesn't like Gallade. This isn't a fan of pokemon. This is a horny tourist.
She sound less a fan of the franchise, and more of someone who found one of Gardevoir's porn once on the net, latched to it to an unhealthy degree and now try to justify her obsession by pretending to be a fan of the media where the character came from.
"Good writer" when all she writes is coffee shop slice of life fanfics. I honestly dislike people who say they're 'writers' as a form of ethical appeal (ethos) in their media critiques when most of their writing is scripts for their critiques and if it IS story, it's most likely some poorly written fanfiction.
@@inky5574 That's so sad, some of my favorite stories of all time are publishing worthy fanfics, so I'm really tired of seeing people like Lily or EL James write shit(and have weird takes on abuse) and become the popular ones for it.
You know, there's this really good scene in B2W2, where your rival asks Clay why he allows ex-Plasma members to live in his city. Clay, the grown man that he is, responds something along the lines of "If you refuse to accept different people, you might end up rejecting any ideas other than your own. And that's mighty dangerous." To which Hugh, being the angsty teen unable to distinguish between the concrete person who hurt him and anyone ever associated with Team Plasma, mockingly replies "Is this one of those stupid compromises adults have to make??" and dismisses the whole thing. This is a message aimed at 12 year olds (the target audience of pokemon). Not every member of a particular group is the same, don't judge a book by its cover. And Lily fails to grasp that simple moral as a grown adult and proceeds to trash the game because "the bad guys don't all think the same".
@@spacescribs5838 how am I a weirdo? He is a guy. You are the weird once for calling him a girl. You can't be born a male then pretend to be female, weirdo. People can make many choices, but choosing your gender after you were born is not one of them.
Lily explaining how psychic types weren't overpowered in gen 1 and then proceeding to explain exactly why they were overpowered was definitely a choice. "It was only because it was coded wrong and they had good STAB moves" YEAH LILY, THAT'S WHY THEY WERE OVERPOWERED.
She completely misses the point of generation 7. In gen 7, your character is a person not of the Alolan culture, but the people are welcoming and friendly, and invite you to participate in one of their traditions as a way of welcoming you to the islands. It introduces a sort of slice-of-life vibe to the game and makes that aspect of it feel very cozy. Gen 7's theme is belonging, and how people who have been displaced or abandoned can find community and friendship elsewhere. Lillie and Gladion are estranged from their mother and they both find people to accept them just as the main character is accepted into Alola. Lillie finds Professor Kukui and Gladion finds Team Skull, which itself is made up of people who failed their island challenges and felt ostracized. That feeds into why Guzma dislikes the cultural emphasis placed on the island challenge--if you fail it, you're made to feel like you don't belong. His motivation is actually interesting and it's why he's one of the better antagonists. People really sleep on gen 7 because they're allergic to reading...
@@thewitchbasket I just want to say, THANK YOU!! for this cause it almost felt like I was going crazy listening to that part cause it felt weird to ignore such an integral aspect of it
@@Lemonrollcake aside from the characters and shit gen 7 kind of sucked ass imo. i've never felt more bored playing any other game, and they were the only games in the series that i dropped after about an hour or two of playing lol (i did eventually finish them though)
She probably saw Gardevoir as this fairytale princess Pokémon, when it's meant to be a magical knight (hence why it's japanese name is literally sirknight) Gallade is just a lot more explicit about it's inspiration
@@SuperEasywalker i mean there were female knights (Joan of Arc being a prominent example), and in most fantasy media lady characters tend to be better at defensive and supporting magics, whereas male tend to be better at offensive magics, so having a magical knight that can use all three (psychic/fairy being the pinnacle "magic" type combo) be any gender does fit, and Gallade shifts from Mage to Paladin, combining the arcane arts with expert swordplay (and in mythohistory, this is usually filled by a Male character)
for anyone here who got this randomly in their recommended and dont know much about lily orchard, her sister has gone on record to say she was sexually abused by her so please do not go to her channel to even hate watch any reviews shes made. she does these hate reviews largely on purpose to get traction, views, and money.
@@Kenpachi546you can search up “lily orchard sister” to get most of the “drama”, but her name is courtney, and she made a video called “my name is courtney orchard” from the channel “courtney peet”.
Lily Orchard fundamentally doesn't understand the rivals, because of who she is as a person. She views Blue as a "friend", when he's a snot-nosed brat who makes people feel small so he can make himself feel big. By the time of the Johto games, and when you meet him and Red in US/UM, he's grown into a decent person, albeit one who is highly competitive streak who likes to prove himself against strong trainers. Silver is an abandoned kid, and knowing Giovanni we know his father was negligent at best. He lashes out because, deep down, he wants the attention and acknowledgement his Father never gave to him. Brendan/May serve a mentorship figure, guiding you through your Pokémon journey, which is reflected in Wally. You help each other grow stronger because you believe in each others potential Barry is the driving force of the Sinnoh games. His actions are what gets the plot started, and whilst his impatience can get him into trouble he's always there to help bail you out of trouble because that's what friends are for Cheren and Bianca are parallels to each other. Cheren relies on his knowledge of Pokémon, whereas Bianca uses grit and determination, but they need to seek a balance to become optimal trainers, hence why they drop out of being trainers (Cheren to be a gym leader, Bianca to be an assistant to Professor Juniper). N is an ideological opposite. He believes that Pokémon should be free to choose what they want to do and who they want to train alongside, but he's being strung along by an authoritarian parental figure. He provides an example on how a pursuit of an ideal future, to make that future true, can hurt you in the long run if you pursue it blindly. Hugh (from B2/W2) is the true friendly rival. He teams up with you more than he battles against you, and whilst your reasons to start your journey are different, you come to rely on each other as if you were battle-brothers.
Calem/Serena are basically Brendan/May+. They and the rest of the squad have the designing principle of expanding their horizons, being the best they can be for themselves in their own way. Trevor seeks to know all there is to know about Pokémon, Tierno’s an artist, not a fighter, while Shauna’s here to make friends and memories. The unchosen protagonist is the child of two of the greatest trainers of their generation, and when the player shows up as an excellent trainer in their own right, they feel like a worthless nepo baby in comparison. They constantly look out for their friends and try to set a good example because it’s the only thing they have. By the time you beat them in Kiloude, they’ve stopped comparing themself to you, having realized that they are special in that they’re the only them.
For the later trainers, they're as follows. I'll skip over Kalos coz I didn't play those games and don't know enough about them, but from what I've heard the rivals there combine elements of Hugh, Barry, and Brendan/May Alola has Hau, who swrves as a friend and mentor, like how the gen 3 rivals function, but he has another aspect that's important. Hau is, unambiguously, a good guy. He never once is shown to be annoyed or irritated at losing, instead viewing it as an example of how far you have come. He's the ultimate supportive friend, and he goes out of his way to ensure that you not only have fun, but can get stronger and complete the Island Challenge so you can feel like you've fully integrated into Alola, rather than remaining an outsider. Hop in Galar is another friendly rival, but there's also hints of quiet resentment bubbling below the surface. He looks up to his brother Leon, and sets out on his journey alongside you, but no matter how hard he tries he can never beat you, can never prove himself as your equal. That self-loathing eats away at him, but he pushes it aside when he is chosen by either Zacian or Zamazenta (depending on your version). He proves himself as worthy enough in his own eyes, and that's all a friend can ask for. For your friend to be happy. Scarlet and Violet has 3 main rival figures. Penny, Nimona and Arven. All of them work with you for various reasons. Penny wants to atone for a misdeed, but feels she is unworthy to do it herself. Arven wants to save a dear friend, but needs your help. Nimona has grown bored of sitting at the top, and wishes to work alongside you to help you become a champion and give her a challenge again. Were it not for the player character bringing them all together near the end of the story as a coalition of friends, then it's probable that calamity would have struck. They show that, even if you're an ace in your field, you sometimes need an arm to lean on, a shoulder to cry on.
I noticed something about Lily just now... Character Growth is non existent for her. Her first interaction with a character is THE only viewpoint she'll have with that character for the whole game. She doesn't believe a character can change or grow, apparently?
I fully bet that if Lily ever got into Borderlands she'd unironically be saying shit like "Handsome Jack Did Nothing Wrong". Edit: to clarify, I mean that she'd unironically support Jack's idea of "Civilizing" Pandora, not noticing (or caring) that Jack's idea of "Civilizing Pandora" is really just "Killing Anyone On The Planet That Doesn't Worship The Ground I Walk On".
This actually makes sense why she doesn't understand specific characters. Because she doesn't see the character growth that she just sees... The first impression and that's it.
The repeated point of "Pokemon games are poorly balanced because they're not balanced specifically around the Gardevoir line" is actually the funniest take anybody has ever thrown out lmao
I'm genuinely obsessed with her for this, like I can't even be mad it's just so outrageous and bizarre. I can't help but applaud her for it. Every time she says it, it gets funnier. And she's so relentlessly dedicated to this absurd take that I have no choice but to respect it so hard.
The funniest way I've ever seen someone shit on Pokemon tbh. It's the same vibe as your younger sibling who was super into charizard when you showed them your save file and then in their own playthrough didn't get why the big fire lizard can't solo through the water gym
@iheartblock3792 Yeah if you cant beat a pokemon game using Gardevoir, then frankly its a skill issue. Ive soloed pokemon games with much worse pokemon, with level caps. So have many others.
Tbf, Lily Orchard doesn't understand many things that isn't being vitriolic, tooting how her opinion is the best or being very happy to see someone she hates being berated by his abusive father. (In a way, that's not gonna beat any of her abuse allegations anytime soon)
the moment she said she's modifying/hacking the GenIV+ games to include Ralts she lost whatever little credibility she had left for this. How can anyone claim they're making a retrospective/critique of something but refuses to engage with what that thing gives them right from the beginning? This is really just someone talking about Pokémon who really hates playing Pokémon except for one single one of them. It's not a retrospective, it's just a display of how hot and bothered she gets for Guardevoir. Edit: good lord, her Gen V ""analysis"" I'm getting an aneurism. The way she keeps ignoring the abuse and gaslighting N suffered as the core of his issues and tried to paint him as just some douchebag who loves talking is *infuriating*. And no, Lily, Unova's writing isn't just good to kids who've never seen anything else before. I was a young adult when I played these for the first time and understood every tiny minutia the subtext wants to tell (sometimes more and sometimes less elegantly) and all of it holds water, and that what makes Gen V so compelling -- it presents several opinions that hold water in their own right but that both sides refuse to let live in coexistence, as a compromise. But I guess for someone who has so far demonstrated quite comprehensively that she hates reading and comprehending what she has read, I'm not surprised she has no idea what these games are even trying to say or why they're so beloved. On a related note, my dude, your analysis of N is on point!
Jaiden animations did the same thing when playing digimon on ds, she just jumped right to using an action replay. Are their brains just hardwired into doing shit like this when jumping into a new game and being given that choice? I never knew any actual pokemon players who went right into using an AR or gameshark so quickly as a kid even i didnt use one til after i beat the games on my own first lmao
"The battles are too easy, Pokémon sucks." "The battles are too hard, Pokémon sucks." "This one strategy I am using steamrolls everything, Pokémon sucks." "The one strategy I am using has a counter, Pokémon sucks" "There's too much walking interrupting gameplay, Pokémon sucks" "There's too much gameplay interrupting walking, Pokémon sucks" "I'm ignoring all this dialogue because Pokémon sucks." "I have no idea what is going on because I ignored the dialogue, Pokémon sucks" "The story is too silly, Pokémon sucks" "The story is too serious, Pokémon sucks" "I want to kill cats and have sexual relations with Gardevoir, am I not sooo edgy and funny, he he, also Pokémon sucks"
For someone who likes Gardevoir a lot, and calls it 'broken'. She never acknowledges the awful stats Ralts and Kirlia have. It's no surprise she had a rough time during Gen 6 with the Rock gym. Kirlia, a stage 1 pokémon, has less Base stats than a starter pokémon.
The starters tend to have some well rounded stats in all of their stages (except for the first two gens for reasons) which is what makes them perfect beginner Pokémon. Not so much with Ralts which has a stat distribution on par with Baby Pokémon. No wonder she struggled until it fully evolved into Gardevoir.
@@GravityFaizI really don't understand why Lily complains about the AI doing so much damage when she insists on using almost exclusively glass cannons. Kirlia especially before evolving to Gardevoir is made of glass bones and paper skin with a defensive spread that's worse than almost if not every 1st stage starter pokemon.
@@armedweiss5531 fennekin has the lowest base stat total of all first stage starter Pokemon at 307. Kirlia has a base stat total of 278. Fennekin's base stats are all higher across the board with the sole exception being its special attack which is 3-point lower than kirlia's.
In the video she actually does at least once say that ralts and kirlia have shit stats. The problem is that only makes her seem lazier because she continues to waste her time using them and complaining that the game sucks when she loses.
lily's utter contempt for lavender town's "creepypastas written by CHILDREN" and people complaining about the game being "too hard!!!" is SO funny when later she's ... struggling to win at said CHILDREN's game, and complaining it's too hard
@@undercookedtoast1479 b-b-but gardevoir is the best pokemon ever!! and, and, sting moves bad!! or whatever lmao. her review of the games isn't even a review of the games because she isn't playing them, she's trying to recreate her fantasy of meeting and raising her pokemon team. which is fine but how effective her pokemon are at said game and how easy it is for her to ignore the story to do that are not actually measures of the game's quality.
I'm half tempted to learn how to make a Pokemon rom hack just so I can make Pokemon Lily Orchard edition. It's 1 hour of walking in a straight line being insulted by your rival with the only Pokemon being Ralts.
Honestly I'd settle for making Lily a random trainer in a game. Give her a Gardevoir and program her AI to spam Calm Mind. Maybe put an underleveled Butterfree in there too. Have her insult you after losing and say something like "Ugh, I need some unwinding after this. G, teleport us home." _(you know what the two would do ;] )_ And as a cherry on top, put her deep inside an optional cave dungeon. :D
Lily Orchard's ideal story is Protagonist walking down an empty hallway to Unambiguously Evil Antagonist, killing them in one hit, and then the story ends.
@@supersaiyankirby OPM also has a bunch of goons in that long hallway trying (and failing) to stop him. (The hallway is street, and he's trying to get groceries)
Ok we have to make sure the umambiguously evil guy is specifically made in a way to be a person lily doesn't like Can't have a redemption Can't be a difficult fight Can't be an easy fight Can't be in the middle Can't be subtle (she'll misunderstand it) Can't be surface level (she'll misunderstand it) Can't be over 18 (i'm not legally allowed to finish this joke) Can't be... uhh...
For someone who claims to be indigenous, Lily is remarkably insensitive towards the Native Hawaiian culture. Of which Sun and Moon is steeped in. Hell she even missed the running plot of Sun and Moon that invasive species of Pokemon are wiping out the Alolan variants. Which is a very real problem Hawaii faces in real life.
Right, she literally went from making a crass comment about Gladion being a colonizer to complaining about Hokulani being some kind of difficult word that needs to f off. Also not surprised that she made a joke about Poni Island, but all of the island names are Hawaiian words for colors that correspond to the real life islands as well.
Very true! And on top of that, the Alolan region is actually representative of a lot of islands and their unique environments coming under threat, even up to and including _Australia,_ the largest island in the world, which is why Komala is included in the dex lineup!
I’m sorry but as someone who owns Platinum, her saying she hacked Ralts into the game absolutely SENT ME because in Platinum. You can get Ralts fairly early-ish (You can get Ralts at a good level before Fantina, the third gym leader in Platinum) But no Lily just HAS to hack in Ralts at the beginning because Lily HAS to use her waifu at the start because she’s too impatient to beat the first two gyms and go to Route 208😭
@ I think so? I admittedly forgot a few details since it’s been a while since I played Platinum, but I think you can get Ralts either before Gardenia (the second gym) or before Fantina (the third gym in this game). But then again, if Lily got Ralts legitimately in Platinum she’d be whining and crying about how her Psychic child can’t beat Turtwig or Duskull
The hypocricy for Lily to claim that Lucamine proves Game Freak is sexist, whilst also ignoring Cynthia's relevance as a respected woman in power that the fandom also adores
Oh no, i havent finished the video but i hope to god she isnt defending lusamine and calling GF sexist for saying that the horrible parental abuser is bad….
Fucking lucamines own fucking daughter is shown as a strong independent woman. Like how the fuck is gamefreak sexist when every game before had men as the main villains
It's not just that, the Pokemon franchise is *FILLED* with amazing female characters, not ever shown to be inferior to men, never once in fact. It's so stupid to even talk about this, since Pokemon has always been for everyone and has been kind to everyone of all ages and of all people, never limited to one. That's always been the goal of Pokemon. Lily should be ousted from the internet
If Game Freak is sexist, not having a lead to the criminal faction that they have in every game be a woman until the 7th generation is more of a sign of that than anything else.
There's a reason Starter Pokemon are designed the way they are. They evolve earlier than almost any other Pokemon in the game, they tend to get access to good STAB options early, and their base stats are pretty high when compared to their early-game peers. They're meant to be reliable and to help you get through hard fights that you might not have been able to manage with your other Pokemon. And most importantly, they're designed to be this way from the beginning of the game all the way to the end. A level 19 Ralts, a Pokemon with 198 BST, is not going to stand up to Totem Wishiwashi the way a level 19 Dartrix (BST 420) would. Even if you took the time to evolve Ralts, Kirlia is still slower, frailer, and offensively weaker than Dartrix, and you're still probably going to lose the fight. For the entire first half of the game, using Ralts as a starter is a MASSIVE disadvantage, and if you're up to that challenge, then more power to you, but you can't then turn around and complain about "inflated damage values". Ralts is a Pokemon that has stats on par with Caterpie and Weedle but evolves 10 levels later than them. It's simply not capable of being the backbone of a Pokemon team. EDIT: It gets even worse. Starter Pokemon are part of the Medium Slow experience group. Despite the name, Pokemon in this group actually level up very quickly early on, by needing fewer experience points to gain a level. (In fact, they grow faster than Pokemon in the Fast group all the way until level 30!) This allows the starter Pokemon to keep pace with the intended level curve of the early game, as well as rewarding the player for, you know, using their starter. Ralts, on the other hand, is in the Slow experience group. True to its name, this group is very slow at gaining experience, from level 1 to level 100, meaning it doesn't benefit from the weird fluctuation of the Medium Slow rate. This means that it is going to feel like a SLOG to level this Pokemon up. (If you've ever played Gen 3 and wondered why leveling up your Nincada felt like such a chore, well, that's why) Comparing the two experience tables, the difference is shocking. To reach level 19, a Dartrix needs 4575 experience points. A Ralts at the same level needs 8573 points! It's no wonder Lily was underleveled all the time; by using Ralts as a starter, you literally need to put in double the work for only half the results. TL;DR If you want to have fun playing Pokemon, don't use Ralts as your starter.
@L_Nivale chikorita essentially only gets fucked over by the game it started in. because the johto gyms and team rocket leave grass type pokemon in general at a disadvantage. you'd have more value playing the whole game without a grass type, it's not only a chikorita problem. in the grand scheme of things, chikorita is a decent bulk starter, it just gets outshined by other bulky grass types.
big thing to note specifically about Lily Orchard: she is an infamous rage baiter. i'm genuinely convinced that all of her "takes" are her just brainstorming in her room for hours about what would best piss people off. she probably had the idea to shit on one specific game from Pokemon, but then figured, "wait, what if i pissed them all off, and then made it a 6 and a half hour video, forcing everyone to watch the entirety of it just so they could cling to the hope that i might actually make a good point?" genuinely awful person, while we're at it. i've yet to hear ONE redeeming quality about Lily ever since i first learned of them.
IDK man from back when I innocently stumbled onto her channel she feels way more like the kind of person who rage baits out of thier own bitter saltiness then someone who intentionally creates entire videos of bad takes. I watched her JK Rowling critique video and it ended up just being pot shots at everyone who supported Rowling, and also the people who decided to separate art from artist and still watch/read/be part of the Harry Potter fandom. There was genuine emotion in that, and some sane takes mixed with bad ones. This feels pretty much exactly the same. Also, uh...if you think someone's going to do a 6 hour long video for a rage bait...which BTW probably took some like a hundred hours total to play/record/script/edit...no lmao no one's doing that just to rage bait.
Lily's rant about Gardevoir being "broken" is awe inspiring. Like... Lily... Lily. Smogon and the VGC community knows how Calm Mind works. You are not a revolutionary for realizing it's a good move. It's also well known among the hardcore romhack crowd that the AI is not well designed for dealing with set-up sweepers. You are also ignoring that discussion of competitive pokemon are specifically in the *context of competitive pokemon.* Also. *Also.* Gardevoir was OU in gen 3! People thought it was good! You can read all about how good it was on Smogon! It won Worlds in 2014! It's just been power crept! Peak making up people to be mad at. No notes. Grass has never touched her fingers.
granted lily would probably write off the power creep bit as "competitive player bullshit" in order to maintain the idea that her favorite piece of goon material is the greatest while also denying that she has a sexual attraction to Gardevoir.
@@phlogistinatorpb oh for sure, but if someone calls her on it she'll trip over herself in a rush to say "nuh-uh! your the pokephiliac! not me!" but, if she just said she wanted gardivoir carnally at least then she'd be a hypocrite given how she's railed against people who want to fuck one of the humanoid pokemon in the past. (which isn't weird of an idea, our species/evolutional ancestors has had a history of fucking it evolutionary cousins. in fact we share a type of pubic lice with gorillas iirc. and we tend to be attached to almost anything that looks like us to an extent. there's the reason the harkness test exists in the first place.)
Gardevoir was never good in RSE no offense. The only real niche it sort of has is as a reflect memento user on shitty Linoone gimmick teams because Trace let it trap Dugtrio and technically use it as setup fodder to do so.
Setting up stat ups on any pokemon is pretty busted (in single player) like you said, the ai is not really equipped to deal with set up sweepers generally, against a real player the best counter if someone is setting up is Bring in something to stop it with roar or killing it with type effectiveness. They will generally just kinda sit there and let you get max stats. Even a pokemon as lacking in stats like smeargle can beat just about anything with enough stat modifiers slapped on it. Gardevoir is certainly a fine pokemon, but there are other pokemon that can just set up sweep faster.
Considering Lily Orchard's sister has come forward about the abuse she suffered from Lily, I'm not entirely sure Lily knows what being nice is, so I guess her opinion on Blue makes sense.
The fact that she sided with Ghetsis, a psychopathic abuser, verbally assaulting N, a literal grooming victim, because of her petty hatred for him is insane. She seriously ignored all the abuse and manipulation N went through as a orphan child just to dismiss him as a "debatebro."
She does the exact same thing to Hunter from Owl House same level of disdain and hatred for an abused and brainwashed child... she hates abuse victims becaue she's an abuser herself
I have to admit while I don't particularly care for N either (just not my cup of tea) but even I know his final act with Ghetsis in BW is easily one of the most engaging and best parts of his arc and the whole game. Lily is literally psychologically incapable of going outside her own preferences that of course she'd have to resort to pure spite and dismissal at that point, otherwise her brain would fry at what she's engaging with.
“Ew handholding” “Ew difficulty” “Ew story” “Ew characters” “Ew dungeons” “Ew cities” “Ew trainers using tactics” Lily just wants ScVi’s open world filled with only steamroller-able enemies
No because gen 9 has stories that deals with trauma and bullying, and she'd probably kill Arven's parents again in front of him to get off and write more erotic fanfiction about it. Oh and god forbid she takes four months to get through the story of the DLC's because she can't teambuild or battle for shit.
Lily: Hacks in a pokemon that's frail in the early game in exchange for lategame power Also Lily: "Why are enemy pokemon doing so much more damage than mine?"
@@robertlupa8273 ... Because it's Lily Orchard and the Ralts and Kirlia stages are part of the appeal. (She's written a bunch of THAT kind of fanfiction about minors.)
@@000Dragon50000yeah I really think the fact she hacks in a RALTS instead of it’s final evolved form really says a lot. Especially considering her accused real life interactions with minors and how her sister recently accused her of viewing drawn images of children in that way…
@@aaronymous9Maybe within context. But on its surface it seems perfectly reasonable to start with the pre-evolved form. Not only does it feel less like cheating, but evolution is part of the fun in Pokemon.
I KNEW IT! When she started "hinting" at not liking N, I thought, "Oh, he definitely beat her a bunch of times so now she hates him." And yep! The ferris wheel scene just proves that.
The way she attacked Rebeca sugar in her Steven universe video and stops just short of saying sugar, who is Jewish is actually a Nazi apologist is truly sickening
"these gym leaders are all such thirst traps- someone at game freak must have a type!!" Lily I need you to look at all the gym leaders you just named and use your brain for a second. What do they all have in common? They're all water type gym leaders, they're dressed showing a lot of skin because they're WATER type leaders- they spend a lot of time in the WATER. This is, like, basic character design. It's literally just the most natural, logical decision for their costuming. It's not the game devs being thirsty, they're just doing their jobs.
Hell, a lot of water types learn Ice Type moves. You know what you don't want when you get drenched in ice cold water and need to warm up? A lot of fabric that you need to get through to begin drying off. Bear Grylls taught me that. Fuck, now I want a Bear Grylls water type gym leader
If it was literally anybody else it could at least be passed off as a joke, but given how vocal the Pokemon fandom is about pre-development-in-the-later-games (especially in the early days when he and his anime/Gary incarnation were our only frame of reference for the character) Blue *and* Lily's past history, it doesn't really paint a rosy picture in Lily's favor.
Well, normalised generational abuse can warp your perception of what is abuse, like for example people are still ingesting, buying and not treating the animals at home as equals? Also abelist, as well as speciesist, too?
I assume gen 3 is the first Pokémon game she ever played. Her love of Friends (from your video on her 'writing' tips) made me wonder if she was older than me but even before she referenced her age, I realized she's younger because, at the least, it seemed clear to me that her first video games weren't the grindy, repeatative ones that were essentially necessitated by the limits of hardware at the time of earlier home and handheld video games. Seems she wants the story spoon fed to her, forced into it, and 'fake' challenging (aka just hard enough to feel moderately rewarding without offering any actual challenge).
“The game is too easy, but I keep getting OHKOd by super effective moves, but UA-camrs that say offensive strats are optimal are STUPID because defensive strategies are OP, but I keep losing to overpowered Pokémon, because game is too easy”
i'm stuck on how lily orchard just willfully misunderstands why n has a different team in each battle. like those aren't pokemon he's just catching for funsies and then releasing when they fail him. those are always pokemon that can be found in the surrounding area who are helping him out because he asked them to. those are his friends, and he's returned them to their natural habitat after he leaves the area. but since n is actually just junichi matsuda's rantsona i guess, he's just a guy who hates pokemon or whatever.
It's headscratching for sure. I wouldn't consider myself a pokemon superfan or anything, I only played through Black/White the one time, but at no point during the story did I *not* believe that N genuinely cared about the pokemon. Team Plasma were a bunch of hypocrites for sure, but N's flaw was pretty clearly "he doesn't realize that he's the one true believer in an organization of power-hungry opportunists".
@@ecyor0 It's not that he's the only one, but it's moreso that as Black 2/White 2 show, there's like...maybe 10% of the team that believed in it. The rest were fully onboard Ghetsis' plan
@@frannielmartinez and the ones loyal to N wear the classic Knight-style uniform, whereas the ones loyal to Ghetsis went full paramilitary organisation in their design. They're not just an evil team, they're Ghetsis' private army
I’m at Gen 5 now and I’ve come to a very frustrating realization. Using the same Pokémon in every game is literally robbing yourself of an experience. Each adventure takes place in a new region and introduces tons of new creatures for you to experiment with. Playing like Lily, you’re robbing yourself of discovery, making new allies, goodness, you’re robbing yourself one of the greatest aspects of Pokémon as a series. You’re not engaging with that region, you’re not learning, though yeah, we’ve established she’s not interested in that, but there’s a reason it hit me now. Gen 5 is the first game that forces the player to use new Pokémon entirely for the initial adventure. I adore this. I wish more entries did this. I hadn’t played an entry at release since Gen 2, so it was like enjoying the idea of Pokémon for the first time all over again. I still remember that I named my Tepig “Barbecue” and thought it was the funniest thing ever. There were memories created because my team was entirely new. It was a beautiful experience then and it is now, and sacrificing that wonder and investment for, let’s be honest, a very NSFW reason, is just sad.
every time a new pokemon game comes out, i make a conscious decision to only use the new pokemon in my first playthrough. i'm surprised most people don't do this, i thought that was kinda the point 😅
This is in part why I also sympathized but understood why exactly they did Dexit as well for SnS. With literal thousands of the buggers, having a game where you essentially both start from scratch with the roster AND not have to worry about the backlog in late-game balance would in theory be refreshing both to players and the devs. Of course, that wound up kinda a disaster but...
@@lunaitor-uq9hz there isnt, everyone knows only gardevoir can learn calm mind, psychic, or thunderbolt. These are all their exclusive moves. Also gardevoir is a tank frfr, i swear u cannot kill it
I've done that with a Mawile in a key item random for Stephen lmao, she's not special. ....yes I had to fight tooth and nail to make it work, but it did.
>makes a retrospective around the entire pokemon series with the idea she wants to do a critical take with the removal of nostalgia >shit talks all pokemon gens >is very clearly nostalgic for gen 3, doesn't shit talk it as much what was she thinking
@@troytheboy1985gen 3 is probably the best generation design wise now Pokemon on the other hand I'll just say that a lot of the weak megas are just gen 3 Pokemon
@@ioletsgo7539 it’s not even a good retrospect from the point of retrospect. Retrospects ask that in addition to engaging with the medium while also researching the stuff around it, she’s just playing the game once and making judgements off that one experience. A more fitting descriptions for what she did is like JaidenAninations’ playthrough of Pokemon Rangers or Digimon where she played it and had thoughts on the game, but apparently doing it that way isn’t as _intellectual_
@@troytheboy1985 gen 3 is cool: buut it does need a proper glow up. Oras almost hit the mark for me. Fun lil story, I got my GBA at a yard sale. It was for 25 cents. Isn't that insane! Now the justification was the mother who sold it said her son left it there and she had no clue if it worked and it had no games with it, so she wasn't going to charge much for it. I spent more on the charger lmao. But my first game for it was pokemon ruby, not my first pokemon game, but the first i bought my self with earned cash. I got others for holiday gifts/birthdays, in which im thankful for to this day because i hold them dear to me. But despite liking so much of gen 3, oras just didn't hit the full. There was just some more to be desired. I guess it would be a REIMAGINATION of gen 3 over being revamped, but sometimes, these games deserve that chance of being reimagined.
I hate how much she glazes Gardevoir and hacks it in as her starter only to complain about how difficult the game is. Ralts doesn't have a stat above 50 and your stuck with it until level 20. Then when it finally does evolve it just gets 10 tacked onto every stat. Thats worse than TREEKO and your stuck with it until level 30. To make it even worse it's in the slow XP group. She effectively did a challenge run and then complained about the game being too hard.
I'm unseasonably angry right now. "Damage values are horrible! 🤬" YOUR USING A POKEMON WITH A BASE DEFENSE OF 25 And then she starts blabbering on about how the game directors are horrible old men who don't know what they're doing as if they're the sole developer's and doesn't even read the sources she's sighting. When is she going to understand that games have plot? WHY DOES SHE HATE GAMES HAVING PLOT!? She doesn't even like Pokemon, she just likes some of the designs. I feel like I'm going insane seeing her rant on and on spewing out the worst takes I've ever heard.
That was my reaction too. Ralts is a horrible Pokemon until it becomes decent by the time of its final evolution. All of her moaning about damage values boils down to patently weak Pokemon with low HP - a measure of a GOOD game that makes you struggle in the immediate for a greater reward later. The game can't both be easy and constantly one-shotting you, Lily.
Imagine hacking your game to substitute the actual starters with a Pokémon with worse stats than Treecko that takes forever to evolve and get good, just to live out your twisted fantasy of making sweet love to an "angry celery." You'd have to be a real clown to do that 🙃
The fact that Lily Orchard constantly belittles, insults, and downplays the trauma of 3 victims of child abuse (N, Lillie, and Gladion) really says something about her as a person.
Wasn't there implications that Guzma may have suffered some as well which is why he ran away from his parents home when he was younger (maybe misremembering though)
@@shelbywright9134 yep it was honestly one of the cooler parts of that game for me: that a group of mistreated or even worse broken outcasts who some of which their worst crime was failing a tradition that they gave it their all for went and formed not just a gang but also group that's like family culminating with the leader being a broken man through no fault of his own only seeming like a jerk on the outside but being honestly really beloved by those who knew him It helped drive home one of the major themes of the game: the importance of family and your loved ones and their impact in life
@@sunlizard9593 Again, don’t see why everyone got up in arms about the cat comment yet didn’t say anything when she joked about crushing insects with rocks or hitting bats with rocks. Is it only animal abuse if the animal is popular with humans? All three jokes were tasteless, but if you’re gonna rag on one of them don’t just let the others slide.
@@scootermcpeanuts6699 a insect is seen as socially ok to crush and a bat should never ever want to get close enough to able to swing at and hit unless it has RABIES!!!!!
this is a small point but the reason that Wally has a gallade instead of a gardevoir in ORAS is because Diantha, the champion of the previous game, has a mega gardevoir. Megas were the generation defining gimmick of gen 6; they wouldn't give two different characters the exact same boss pokemon if they had one they thought worked better. Which is why the movie star has the mage knight in a ball gown, while the sickly little boy learning to be strong on his own has a Paladin with a cape and blade arms. Lily really is the most frustrating woman alive who doesn't allow herself to think about anything for more than 20 seconds
You know I always personally hated that Wally had a Gallade instead because I generally prefers it when Pokemon plays with gender, but I never saw it this way. I'm still grumpy about it, but at least it makes sense to me
I didn't even consider the crossover of mega! But yeah man, obviously Gallade fits Wally more than Gardevoir, it wasn't like Gardevoir was actually Wally's favorite dogfighting animal, it was his fuckin PAL that GREW ALONGSIDE HIM and matured properly WITH HIM
@@frigometri257 Gen 9 gave the Ralts family the decently powerful Iron Valiant paradox variant and gave Gallade the pretty good Sharpness + Sacred Sword combo. It was nice of them to not leave them in the dust.
I was a Gardevoir Enjoyer™️ before the internet stole my innocence, so the fact that Lily has actually, canonically, made being a Gardevoirphile a part of her personality hurts
I am a Gardevoir enjoyer solely because she was one of my first shinies, and she was a staple of every team past when I got her. Sadly, I can't like the I the mon due to socal limitations.
Genuinely crushed me when corn addicts ruined Gardevoir, Vaporeon, and then mons like Tsareena later. They can’t be brought up anymore in a casual conversation seemingly unless you already know who you’re talking to.
Holy shit that Gardevoir speech, she desperately needs gardevoir to be the strongest to validate her love for it. Maybe that why she doesn't get silver's character arc, because that would be introspecting on her own validation issues
A shame she doesn’t go into the post games of any of these Pokémon games. Silver actually experiences growth to where he’s he first rival to have a Pokémon evolved via friendship. She also doesn’t talk about Pokémon reflecting the trainer. Example being Gladion with Silvally, Lucario, and Crobat, all 3 needing high friendship to evolve. But let’s joke about how Gladion’s a Hitler youth instead.
I know full well what it's like to really like a Pokemon that's underwhelming in battle. My PFP and name refer to a Pokemon that sucks. For a more direct example, I've used a Silk Scarf boosted, Swords Dance boosted, max power Return Zangoose before. She shredded through damn near anything in the game but that doesn't magically change the fact that a player with any semblance of a strategy could tear through it very quickly. I feel like she has this really sour feeling towards competitive or anyone who says her favorite Pokemon has weaknesses or bad matchups in the game. It's super weird and leads to arguments I never thought I'd see from someone apparently very into Pokemon.
And the worst part is the Gardevoir can be good. I should know. It carried one of my Nuzlocke teams and I had one as a champion Pokemon in Scarlet. But a Pokemon doesn't NEED to be good to be a favorite or for you to like it.
@@angelsartandgaming she shit talks and calls N a debate bro/incel despite him being a victim of gaslighting and verbal abuse from a tyrannical man of deceit, of course she’ll talk bad about Gladion being edgy without understanding why he’s like that. Namely that his mother became obsessed with a toxic rock jellyfish and left with that in mind (also taking care of the equivalent of Pokémon’s Frankenstein, Type:Null/Silvally as it was in its feral state)
It needs to be remarked that the plot of Gen 3 was based on real events that happened in Japan in the 80s. It was called the isahana bay project, which was the proposal to extend the landmass into the sea to create more land for farming. There was a large debate between the scientists planning the proposal and the fishermen who were concerned about the impact on both their fishing yields, as well as the ecosystem of the oceans around the coast in general. It wasn't just some silly cartoon plot. There was some actual weight behind the land versus sea debate. It very much ties into Gen 3's overall theme of environmentalism. Unfortunately for a lot of fans outside of Japan, this reference is completely lost, so most just write it off.
@@goldenalpaca3881 In my opinion I wouldn’t blame the average fan for not knowing because it’s 1. For most it’s another country, 2. Another time(most RSE fans were kids when it happened and thus wouldn’t have even been alive at the time) and 3. The game doesn’t advertise the allusion and it’s more so a fun thing to pick up. This doesn’t apply to Lily however because she’s claims this to be a retrospective and as part of that, she should he researched into the other underlying elements that helped make the game which would have no doubt included the inspiration for the game, so for her to chalk the story up to being “a silly cartoon plot” more so shows how poorly thought out this “retrospect” really was.
Oh shit i didn't know that! Very good to know, team magma and aqua seem way less ridiculous now! Honestly if they made this conflict more clear it could've translated over a bit better. Maybe having Team Magma grunts or one admin be farmers and Team Aqua grunts/one admin be fishermen and have the higher ups be scientists could've made the conflict more understandable? the team bosses could still be wacky dudes, but at least their motivations wouldn't be as ridiculous.
this is awesome insight i wish i knew about, i still wouldn't say gen 3 are good games with it. But i think that is the point. Kind of like social commentary in art making characterization pieces bloating the situation or mocking it. While in a way, its more like a historical documentation, how the fans see it would be mockingly because the plots are so dumb. Just like how this idea shoulda stayed as both sides are wrong and dumb. You can't have more water, you can't have more land. its that simple because nature loses in the end on both means.
honestly as a person that fully supports using cheats and mods in solo games for fun... but cheating while trying to make "retrospective" is ridiculous like isn't the whole point of it is to show and talk about games as they originally are?
That implies people haven’t been cheating and hacking in Pokemon since day 1, which is clearly false. Everyone was multiplying their master balls with the good ol Save trick, powering down at the right moment. Y’all are very strange
The Lavender town rant had me fuckin shocked because like... your problem with this location is that it stoked a bunch of children's imaginations in fittingly childish and predictable ways? I'm fucking sorry you went through that I guess?
You know this project is f'ed to begin with when Lily calls it a retrospective, but instead of actually delving into any interesting history or context, or discussing how her perspective on these games might've changed with the passage of time, she is basically just doing a Nostalgia Critic style nitpicky playthrough/review of all the main games. Also very funny that Lily doesn't get the joke of Gladion; he's sold to you as this almost cartoonishly edgy bad boy character, but in reality he's actually a huge softy who only wants to get strong because he hates seeing his friends get hurt in battle. Like, his end game team is 3 Pokemon that all evolve via Max friendship, and a Pokemon who's whole thing is putting on a facade.
Exactly. He literally shut himself away because of the abuse his mother put him through. It's why he joined Team Skull. He was lashing out. But deep down, he's still sweet. But he has blonde hair so...I guess he's a Nazi now.
it's also just very very VERY funny to imagine Gladion being the angriest edgy bitch to you and Hau because he finds you personally annoying, and then turning around and baby talking while scratching Type: Nulls neck like its a big dog
@@k-master973 I think even Lillie is better than Lilly at thinking critically. Actually, no she actually is, given how she develops through the story!
So Lily praises Lysandre as a villain but dunks of Lusamine because her motivation is vanity... Even though. Lysandre's was also literally vanity. He keeps saying how he wants the world to be beautiful and to stay beautiful. That's literal vanity. But no need to bring that up when you can just point and yell "sexism"
That and the fact Lusamine's motivation isn't even just vanity! She's looking for her husband! Granted the games kinda don't mention that point as clearly as they should, but there's more to her than just that one flat motive! It's why she "preserves" the things she loves.
@@BriarValley Lysandre is a straight-up card-carrying beauty-fascist who thinks only beautiful things deserve to exist. Lusamine is moreso a well-intentioned extremist, who pushed too far too quickly into things she didn't understand the full ramifications of (the Ultra Wormholes that bring the Ultra Beasts).
@@BriarValley It had a noble goal originally but turned into vanity with or without her being 100% sane. Lusamine original intentions were for her husband yes, but by the time the game happened she had already gone too deep and lost her original goal being misled and controlled by the very thing which took away so much, only being left with that obsessive thought of preservation which lost its meaning.
And dare I say, Lusamine's motivations are way deeper than Lysandre! I like Lysandre as a concept, but when it comes to execution, Lusamine wins over him by a long shot
Just to steelman her argument about Lusamine, her point was that she thought Lusamine's motivation being vanity was lazy writing for a female villain, so she wouldn't have that kind of problem with a male villain like Lysandre. She's ignoring a whole bunch of other shit that makes Lusamine an interesting and well-written villain, but this is Lily Orchard we're talking about so of course she'll either ignore or misunderstand the nuance for the sake of a hot (read: fucking garbage) take.
"You're the kind of person who's mad that Disney isn't doing classic villains anymore", says the woman that just spent hours complaining about villains with philosophy
The worst part is that Pokemon and Classic Disney both had simpler antagonists (Like Maleficent for Disney or Giovanni for Pokemon), but also complex philosophical ones (Frollo comes to mind for Disney, Ghetsis and Lusamine for Pokemon)
What’s funny is that having watched Lily’s content a few years ago, I can safely say Lily isn’t actually even talking about liking Disney villains or disliking Disney villains, she just has this caricature of this edgelord adult cartoon nerd in her head that she’s perpetually mad at for some reason. 90% of her other videos is just getting mad about cartoon fandom not liking cartoons in the right way. For her “you’re the kind of person who’s mad Disney isn’t going classic villains anymore” isn’t an indictment of anything to do with classic villains or Disney, it’s just getting in a dig at this weird caricature that’s a combination of every take by a cartoon UA-camr she’s disagreed with in the past ten years. It’s l wry strange. You could call it the rhetorical fallacy of “constructing a public” but Lily doesn’t seem to be doing it on purpose. She often just starts videos being like “there’s a prevailing fandom attitude that trope X is better than trope Y…” and then she shows one tweet with two likes that doesn’t show what she’s claiming and starts angrily arguing against this supposed fandom attitude like it’s a voice in her head. It’s very disconcerting, especially when she starts using second-person pronouns and being like “it’s because you’re a stupid dumbfuck who watches Attack on Titan” or something like she’s ranting directly against her audience. I honestly don’t know what anyone gets out of her videos, they’re the strangest things ever
I’m so confused because the theme of her video seems to be “let’s revisit the Pokémon games to see if they were good” but then she boldly assumes everything about the Pokémon community, games, and character arcs, without actually dissecting any of it. Her essays are so…nothing!
Considering she's forcing herself into a career of "reviewing" media she vehemently hates without properly researching them (has she even seen POOL HOPPING), hate and joylessness* is all she has *autocorrect thought I meant to say joblessness, and that was too funny not to include
As someone who has watched her videos, she commonly uses a humor and praises her wife. And one can be critical of things you like. I think it's slightly disingenuous to say she is the most miserable person, when she has a small community in which many like her content for that level of humor, who enjoy it. My point isn't that you should like it, or that it's objectively good, but making such a character judgement in public forum seems a bit off.
@@endstudios9345if u really want to be pedantic abt it op said she *sounds* like the most miserable person which is an opinion and to be expected when you put out subjective reviews to be publically consumed and critisised
She victim blames every abuse victim in the shows she watches. The two biggest examples that come to mind are Lapis Lazuli from Steven Universe and Hunter from Owl House.
@@unknownbyself I mean, Asterion makes a little more sense to hate. I like him well enough, but he is also blatantly evil and vindictive unless you put a lot of work into convincing him not to be. I know his history and the fucked up stuff he went through, but hating him is a bit more understandable than Hunter or even Lapis. Like Hunter does basically nothing and spends most of the time we know him just traumatized, and Lapis really only takes her anger out on the people who actively abused her.
This might get buried because it's a later response. Lily in fact does not understand abuse victims. I actually commented on her original video calling out her horrendous take on Gen 5 and how she was giving contrarian. She stated that she didn't like N being an absolutist and I pointed out how that N is an absolutist because of the abuse and manipulation Ghetsis put N through since he was a child. And she just ignored that point entirely. I also told her that her constantly losing to N at the Ferris Wheel was indeed a skill issue.
Concidering what she did to her sister, I don't think she can allow herself to empathize with an abuse victim at all for fear that it'll make her feel guilty for her horrific crime.
@@ISIIN15for the sake of Anthony’s request, you should not be using the wrong pronouns for Lily. Well not in his video’s comment section, the elementary school dropout does not warrant any respect. With that said, that shouldn’t violate another person’s rules in chat, especially when Lily tried to sue that person in question.
@@Certifiedgooner i literally don't care. I calls it like i sees it. He's literally a straight man with a fetish. He's having a heterosexual relationship with extra steps. If his voice was any more masculine it'd be a Warhammer 40K video. Even Michelle Obama looks more like a woman than he does.
@@ISIIN15, you are blatantly engaging in some transphobia just with your transvestigating of Michelle Obama. You are a weirdo just as obsessive as Lilly Orchard why don’t you hold up a mirror and have some self awareness.
I think lily has a complex with Feminin pokemon. For example in gen 7 She only uses feminine pokemon. But then when using them and they fail she doesn't blame her bad team building, but instead the "Old Male Overseers of Pokemon" (She uses 2 Ghost types and a butterfree)
Also She complais about One shooting pokemon and stat boosts but brags about Calm mind reflect Gardevoir being op and all that, but then still looses when the enemy has a fast physical Attacker because she is Wrong about how powerful gardevoir is. Gardevoir is powerful but It can't just beat everything because Calm mind go brrr. I think her reasoning for why Crits and super effective moves should be weaker is because she once got crit by a super effective move on her Boostes gardevoir.
My absolute favorite part of the video is how she hacks in ralts to "make the game more fun for her" but proceeds to lose way more than she would've by just playing normally. She literally just could've played pokemon like everyone else, picking a normal starter and building a real team, and had more fun. The thing is that she doesn't really want to have fun. She's lazy. She sees absolutely no development in her abilities even after 9 games. She continues to use the same tired strategy of brute-forcing her way through every fight, dying over and over again before she can finally get her lovely, precious gardevoir. She simply refuses to understand how the game works. Clearly Lily does not want to play the game, which raises the question as to why she would waste at least weeks, if not months, playing games from a series she demonstrates little to no love for. Views and money are great, she no doubt assumed it would bang because its so contradictory and her arguments all nearly all faulty. The hilarious part is that the original video didn't go viral. It doesn't even have half a million views. The only thing that's really going to bring it true traction is this response-3/4 of a year after the initial video came out. It's not a retrospective either, it's merely a 6 1/2 hour playthrough of the Pokémon games with a weird, loose underlying storyline of her wanting to fuck gardevoir. She hilariously praises simplicity yet ridicules complexity, failing to realize that to make a complex character you really need the character to show their different sides to the player or audience tons of times. A more in depth character is going to demand more screen time and more dialogue to form that roundness. Lily's video is completely lazy and misinformed. Even some of her reasonable opinions she cities evidence that doesn't add up to that opinion. Insane that she made 6.5 hours of pure rage bait.
Also super condescending on the critics, treating her personal opinion as the experience everyone has with the games and getting angry at everyone who disagrees with her.
@@Pi-eipp You see those seemingly random Gardevoir drawings that pop up? The ones that are often with a cartoon version of Lily? Those are from PokeMadhouse, a webcomic Lily made about her and her Gardevoir G, who is labelled as like a sister to the Lily character. They fuck and have a half-human, half-pokemon abomination baby. Lily has used said baby as a sort of mascot in some of her videos. WE ARE PAST SIMPING.
What does Lily even like in these games? She doesn’t like challenging battles. She doesn’t like engaging in anything beyond a few lines of dialogue. She doesn’t like nuanced world-building. She doesn’t like trying to build a team of interesting creatures. She doesn’t like exploring interesting locales. She doesn’t like engaging against evil teams to save the world. What she seems to like is getting her favorite Pokémon as early as possible, then using it to cheese bosses while complaining when they don’t fall beneath her, then saying other Pokétubers aren’t as knowledgeable as she is. And picturing herself getting with Gardevoir and Blue and Red having a gay relationship, I guess.
@@Cybertech134 the video you’re commenting under has a perfect example of someone confidently talking about something they know nothing about. I advise you to learn from that before you say something stupid (well stupider than what you’ve already said)
Lily Orchard is an incredibly incurious person. She doesn't want to engage with a character, story, gameplay etc. Anything that requires more insight than the surface level is too much, it's too much work for her. And that is actually really sad to me
i beat cynthia on my first try when i played pearl when i was 11, after spamming revives and full restores of course. her milotic was what i had the most trouble with because i was alternating between my infernape (which i had overlevelled since i was 11 and my starter was my favorite) and my luxray (2nd highest level in my party, stronger against milotic)
As a Gen 5 fan, the reason why people love Cheren and Bianca is that we see them grow as people. Bianca starts out as a clumsy trainer who ends up trashing your room and Cheren starts out with a vibe of not seeing the task of being a Pokemon trainer as a fun journey but as a goal to be achieved with the upmost optimization. And througouth the story, we see them change, with Bianca becoming more competent and skilled, and is eventually Professor Juniper's assistant, implying that she's now one of the smartest people in Unova. Cheren on the other hand chills out and stops focusing on becoming the strongest and instead becomes a teacher and gym leader, focusing on now helping others achieve the same strength he once aspired for. And then there's Hugh, the B2/W2 rival she just decided to not mention, who has an extremely unique take on a rival, where he doesn't consider himself to be a rival with you at all, not even in a friendly way, and instead instead views himself as your partner, with his own goals that he wants your help to achieve and battles you because he want's to know he can trust you as a trainer to help him. And that is even shown in gameplay with how many double battles you do with Hugh against Team Plasma, where the experience you gained by fighting one another gets put to the test with having to co-operate.
Something to note about Bianca and her story. She hates battling, to a degree, and it's her journey that makes her see that she's not cut out to be a trainer in the traditional sense. She drops out from gyms at what? Right after skyla? And goes on to tell you that whiles she's still training to keep up somewhat she's shifted her entire focus on to understanding pokemon. Completing it's self as her getting the assistant job. Which is a cool as story line for any character in pokemon and one we haven't seen sense really.
@@dafirelive i lost my drive once i watched the first few minutes of gen 5 and this solidifies it. she judged gen 5 without including a whole GAME? gsc and rse postgame was already insane but yeesh
@FlaringStardust I also found it funny how she complained on how the battle frontier wasn't in oras, but then never played or talked about the battle frontier to show why it was disappointing that it was excluded.
@@TH3H3LLR41S3R Bianca doesn't actually hate battling. The reason she stopped trying to be a Pokemon trainer like the you or Cheren has to do with her just not being good enough. She eventually realizes that, despite the fact that she dreamed of becoming a trainer just like every other kid, she's just not cut out for it; that's around when she starts to help professor Juniper and decides she wants to be a scientist like her.
I love how she is ADAMANT that Gardevoir is broken, like... my favorite pokemon is Vanilluxe, and I am under NO illusions that it's broken despite having swept three separate Elite Fours with it, and solo-running in Shield. Then again, I also play competitive Mono Bug, so I guess I can't afford to be that delusional
I heard a joke on Alpharad Plus saying "Joe skips the cutscenes to get to the gameplay and skips the gameplay to get to the cutscenes" and that sentiment holds true for Lily
She set herself clear from the D/P/Plt section that she wanted to skip through all dialogues, but sucks so much at combats that she believes damage escaling is a thing like she were playing Kingdom Hearts critical mode and that is damaging her experience, so for her combats are a drag, but it is also to put up to read without a VA reading the text for her
@@berryAsdaRemember. She doesn't take Kingdom Hearts serious enough to try and be good at the game. She probably beats all of the games once after skipping all of the cutscenes, then judges her opinion of the game based on base game content because the DLC of KH3 is just a pointless, overpowered enemy boss rush.
Seriously hearing everything about her talk on "damage scaling" Why make an entire retrospective when you don't even understand the core mechanics of the game? You know nothing about this topic yet you speak about it for 6 hours
@@spazerdazer8421 "Why does my underleveled, powercrept Pokemon that isn't even fully evolved losing to the better at earlier levels Pokemon?" is the best part of Lily Orchard takes. Because it is just... So wrong.
>makes “comprehensive review of the entire series” >willfully chooses to not engage with major parts of the game, then criticizing them for not being present >least obvious rage bait
It HAS to be bait, doesn't it? Why else would she: 1) Claim that Blue is a friendly rival, either because she doesn't understand social interactions well enough to notice the playground bully behavior, or because she's being a contrarian. 2) Claim that Gen II doesn't have enough Pokemon available in the first half of the game, while refusing to catch Suicune or Red Gyarados, and seemingly only using 6 Pokemon in that playthrough anyway. She didn't even bother to pick up the Eevee in Goldenrod City! As an aside: Seriously, there's _dozens_ of popular Gen II Pokemon that you can find in Johto without really having to hunt for them. Just off the top of my head, there's Mareep, Wooper, Miltank, Marill, Girafarig, Phanpy, Skarmory, and Sneasel. And if you're willing to explore, you can find Pokemon like Dunsparce, Heracross, and Wobuffett. All these Pokemon are available before the Elite Four. She says Gen II has the worst Pokemon availability problem in the _series_. Does she really think having to wait till Kanto to catch Houndour is worse than DEXIT? 3) Go out of her way to hack Ralts into every possible game as a starter, then complain when Ralts and Kirlia frequently faint during the first half of the game. It's almost like Ralts is balanced to be weak in the first half of the game and strong in the second half of the game, while starter Pokemon are balanced to be consistently strong throughout the entire game! But being able to reference your creepy Gardevoir fanart is so much more important than actually playing the game you're reviewing the way the devs intended. 4) Double and triple down on an unfunny joke about throwing rocks at animals. 5) Complain about the bad storytelling in the series without actually paying attention to the dialogue. I don't really like the plot of any Pokemon games either, but these stories are very simple. If you're going to say they're bad, put in the effort to explain WHY they are bad. Otherwise, people will rightfully be upset that you're dismissing them without even engaging with them. 6) Complain about every single popular character in the series. And that's just the few things that stuck out to me. Lily's the queen of rage bait. Her whole life revolves around negativity.
It’s hard to tell if it’s rage bait because Lily actually is kind of an idiot with an extremely twisted view of the world. But she’s also a contrarian asshole. So what combination of stupid and asshole you’re dealing with at any moment is hard to say.
2:17:23 "The damage values are weirdly scaled up" Proceeds to show a clip of her PSYCHIC Pokemon getting hit with BITE a DARK TYPE move. Uh yeah Lily that's not 'weirdly' scaled up, that's called having a super effective type advantage over you, my god.
said psychic pokemon was underleveled so it never even had a chance, there's no such thing as "damage scaling" when you're literally losing there's a damage calc formula, sure but literally the only things you need is the type matchups and the willingness to grind, which she has neither, apparently
something that always bothers me about lilly is how she makes EVERYTHING sexual. she just goes into these weird and specific rants (that are definitely some freudian slips) that always concludes in something sexual and acts like thats everyone's problem. she also does this a lot in her steven universe content, it's always so weird and uncomfortable. i dont mind a sexual joke or two, but she always goes so far to the point that shes literally just talking about her kinks for minutes in a video about a game where you catch and battle little animals, so weird.
@@agramugliaThat’s…very telling. Lily strikes me as the sort of person who’d openly use slurs against her targets if she wasn’t masquerading as a leftist.
@@agramuglia Holy shit WOW. Lily is like the human incarnation of a Monkey’s Paw: whatever awful thing you can think to accuse her of she’s already done it.
She does that a lot. Those "jokes" don't exist in a vacuum. She molds her, I'll remind everyone, child audience to be okay with this and encourages them to engage in the same topics with her. She's especially s*xual with her detractors, one of which got told her (again, child) audience wants to screw her and her critics want to grape her. She is a deeply foul person.
Why do people like her always think that their favorite pokemon has to be good before they're allowed to like them? The designs are there to be appealing, it's alright if that's the only thing you enjoy about the mon
My favorite Pokémon is Gallade Gallade isn't a very good Pokémon in competitive I can be petty and vindictive Did I make a 6 hour video hating on the entire franchise? No
59:54 Disagreeing with you here. It's not about "powerful" Pokemon, it's about FAVORITES. Obviously, some Pokemon being restricted to certain areas makes sense and we shouldn't expect to get super-powerful awesome legendaries handed to you right from the start. But there IS something to be said for wanting to go on a JOURNEY with that team member - wanting to go through the game WITH that particular Pokemon because it's a favorite. Hell, she's demonstrating that by going through the game with a Butterfree - it may not be "objectively" very strong, but she loves it and enjoys doing the game with it. If Tyranitar was a favorite of mine, I admit I'd be pretty frustrated if I COULDN'T go through a good chunk of the game with it. I don't want a REWARD for completing 95% of the game - I want a team member that I like and want to experience most of the game with. For instance, when I played Gold originally, I wanted Donphan on my team - loved the thing, wanted one and to play the region with it (and yes, I somehow got it on Gold version - don't ask me how, I do not recall how the hell I did it, but I KNOW when I played Gold version as a kid I had a Donphan. Maybe my brother had silver and we traded? I do not recall at all). Until Crystal put Phanpy on route 46 in the morning, Phanpy was only available in the route directly below Blackthorne City. And you know what? That's fine - still plenty of game left and plenty to do with it. But if it was only available on Mt. Silver? After I had already done everything else I was going to do in the game? I probably would have never had it on my team, because by that point I would have had a team built, Pokemon that were balanced or that I enjoyed immensely. THAT is what sucks about sometimes putting some Pokemon in Endgame areas - you're AT the endgame - the conclusion. I didn't want a REWARD, I wanted a team member for the rest of the game. Hell, actually going back to the Donphan example with more recent games - in Scarlet, once I discovered Great Tusk in the school library? I WANTED IT SO BAD. Discovering it in the books (which, by the way - yeah, Lily's dislike of actually exploring and finding out this stuff is groan-inducing because what I loved so much about Scarlet was the freedom to explore and going to areas like the Power Plant or Seafoam when you don't HAVE to is fun - I'm not interested in the legendaries, just being like "Wait, there's a route here and I can explore that! I'M GONNA SEE WHAT'S THERE!). But yeah, took on Great Tusk WAY underleveled and got my ass kicked, figured I'd have a chance to catch it later... but upon defeating it, I discovered I couldn't catch that one and I was disappointed. Sure, I didn't need it to be the big giant one, but I LOVE regional variants and a regional variant on one of my favorites was cool and I wanted it to be part of my team. Now, admittedly, I COULD have just tried to get one via the GTS if I was DETERMINED to get one, but I'm the kind of player who normally would prefer to explore things naturally and let it come at its natural pace... but of course the Paradox Pokemon are endgame Pokemon and that kind of sucks for anyone who really, REALLY wants to have their favorite going along with them on their journey. You make a personal story with the team you build, having memorable events happen because of the dynamic created. It's why some more recent games, like Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet, seeming to operate under the assumption you'll be trading out team members all the time, is a bit frustrating for me because that's not how I or anyone else I know plays. I want the six I've chosen for this, not swapping out all the time. Anyway, point is I get it when she expresses frustration that Johto can lock out a bunch of Mons until a certain point.
A fair response. I have come around to that perspective as well after enough people argued similar points. Also, I am mostly impressed and surprised I made anything that fell on your radar. If you will indulge a bit of fanboyism, your work definitely set me down this path and I am very grateful for it. :)
Sorry to troll you with this one but fun fact you actually can get donphan's paradoxes right after beating all Titans (it becomes a static encounter with fixed IVs and other bonus stuff like any other Titan Pokemon)
Why can't she engage with literally any piece of media from the angle of what value she personally derives from it but instead has to frame everything around how everyone else is appreciating that thing wrong except for her
It's the entitled and narcissistic attitude super common among the terminally online, particularly a lot of very vocal people who care too much about politics (from both sides but it's particularly prevalent on the Left). It's the dangerous combination of generalizing groups of people and their perspective and having an absolutist perspective where you can demonize and dehumanize groups of people. As much as the Left tries to pretend they don't do it that's literally how they treat the Right, and the Right obviously does that shit to the Left.
@@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463 I already specified earlier in that it's the "very vocal people" who act like that on both sides. I figure that statement pretty much accomplishes what you want.
Because Lily wants to be special and different, and despite having, who knows, things that make her SPECIAL and DIFFERENT, she chooses to be a contrarian, like the cheap fast food of opinions
Someone tell Lily that Gen 5 was the power creep generation and Kirlia's stats are worse than UNOWN's so no the damage formula didn't change, she just imported a weaker pokemon into a highly min-maxed environment
Fr, I played the way the developers intended and had my Psychic type be Munna/Musharna. Amazingly, my Pokemon withstood a lot of hits because its designed bulkier (and slapped an Eviolite on em before evolving), and hit em with Hypnosis before sicking my big fuckin Pig Man on em
Every Pokémon is someone's favorite Pokémon. Does she really expect every single Pokémon in the game to be available early on so everyone can immediately catch their favorites? Also, forcing you to use new Pokémon you've never used before is a way of making you get new favorites instead of relying on the same ones every game.
It really sounds like she just wants a selector at the beginning of the game that lets you pick your whole team from the start. And then just walk through caves and forests with no trainer or wild Pokemon encounters as she goes from empty gym to empty gym in unpopulated towns.
Thats the reason why BW kicked so much ass for me is because you were forced out of your comfort zone to try other pokemon. One of the biggest joys is discovering a pokemon that you ignored but turns out its really sick.
It's just one bit in a sea of crappy comments, but "kids were inspired by Lavender Town to create ghost stories, therefore it is bad and anyone who enjoys it is bad" snipe felt particularly petty. God forbid kids have fun... and evocative locations that beget creativity are just so terrible... Also it is genuinely interesting and sad that Lavender Town has replaced Pokemon Tower with a radio station in GS, but I doubt that she would notice something like that.
Yeah no it's genuinely kind of impressive I didn't think it was possible to come up with this many almost objectively incorrect takes on a franchise this subjective that has so many moving parts to analyze
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor i guess it's by denying the existence of that flexibility entirely, and trying to judge the entire franchise "objectively" based on how it fares against a single strategy it's like trying to play hftf while only using stand on devo's air normals
Ralts is so terrible as starter, because it's literally just a Magikarp situation Lily with Ralts: Game too hard :( Lily with Gardevoir: Game too easy :(
The first damaging move ralts learns in gen 5 is Confusion, which it learns at level 6. Literally unable to damage your opponent Pokémon at the start of the game, and being FORCED to switch train or cheat in a rare candy. Then it has to wait 12 more levels to learn Psybeam, which will screw you over because by that point you're facing the Bug Type gym (y'know, the gym where every Pokémon has super effective moves against the entire Gardevoir line?)
@@sev1120well, I think that by level 18, you're by the 2nd gym. Your point still stands though, cause I think both of Lenora's Pokémon have dark type moves.
@@nukclear2741 She uses a Herdier and Watchog The Herdier has Take Down, Bite, Retaliate and Leer. Watchog has Leer, Retaliate, Hypnosis and Crunch Watchog, with no IV's or EV's, using Crunch KO's a level 18 Ralts, with perfext IV's and 252 defense EV's, in 3 hits guaranteed. Without those, it's a guaranteed KO in 2 hits, with a 6% chance to OHKO using crunch because of how the damage calculation works Using Take Down, without EV training the Watchog has a guaranteed OHKO on ralts every time thanks to STAB making it a 135 base power physical attack, which it uses it's base 85 attack to devastating effect on early game. Only Whitney's Miltank has a comparable base attack for a 2nd gym, and whilst the Miltank has a base stat total of 490 (closer to a fully evolve starter than Watchog's 420) most of those stats go into it's bulk and speed, with it's attack being lower than Watchog's
"There's a lot of posters of Pikachu hung up, like some kind of obsessive shrine" says the one who modded every game to have Ralts as a starter (and constantly makes sexually-coded comments about Gardevoir) in a concerned tone.
@@robertlupa8273it's so funny because even at age 9 I understood that without any issue lmao. My kid brain wanted the high stat evolutions and pseudo legendaries, but I knew it took high levels for them to evolve and how weak their stats are before evolving; instead of whining, I'd spend an ungodly amount of time grinding so I could use the crazy evolutions lmaoo I don't know how Lilly misses so many very basic parts of these games when literal pre teens understand all of this with no issue
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor As a kid, even I understood the type chart! (I did think fairy was super effective against poison for a long time, and that setup moves were useless, but my point still stands)
It’s astounding how Lily can say it’s a retrospective when she chooses to purposefully skip the plot, ignore areas and side content she doesn’t like, and of course hack the games which does in fact change the core experience, among other things
Hacking a ralts in every game as your starter I feel takes away the feel of going to a new region. She complains about Gamefreak shoehorning Charizard everywhere, but Lily is hacking just so she can play with the same Pokémon at the start 5 times. It baffles me even in gen 8 Hatterene exists but never tried to see how it compares to Gardevoir.
She cannot possibly make a generation-by-generation retrospective and NOT use the starters of like, ⅔ of the games. She knows the starters are a big part of a region's identity right? She wants to play these games with the same starter, without engaging with the dialogue, without engaging with the side content. What does this woman get out of this on a gameplay level or a commentary level? Also she thinks that antagonists who want an ethnic cleansing are bad antagonists because irl those kinds of ppl are just online. She's aware of like, history right? Just history as a whole?
if she didnt make comments about having played the games before i would've thought this was her first playthrough after already committing herself to the idea that the plot and gameplay is bad. it reads as someone who is grasping for straws to find reasons to be mad
@@coatimundi69 It very much feels like she just played gen 3 as a kid and never played any of the others. I know she has, but it just feels like after finding out she could have caught those legendaries, instead of knocking them out, she just got mad, said they were dumb Pokemon anyway, and that she knocked them out on purpose, and then never played again.
Hearing Lily stan Gardevoir so hard takes a whole new meaning when you watch the Joon video and learn she was down *way* bad for her as a kid to the point she got banned from her library for printing copious amounts of smut of her.
I'm not even HALF of the video runtime and I already imagined Lily Orchard as a Rival where she comes out of nowhere, says nothing because "f**k character development" and battles you with a team of 2-3 Pokémon with an overleveled Gardevoir you can screw over with a Poison type. After you beat her, she says how much of a waste of time it was and sprints off-screen.
@@robertlupa8273 Between that and having Gardevoir on this weird "groomer-like" fanfic relationship, I'm with Anthony here wondering how can you avoid the allegations that are tormenting her? It's like she wants to crave in the hate of the internet
Also, just, Lily posits this as a retrospective, opening with the question of if you can enjoy the core game without any of the outside/online components. And yet, she so often goes on tangents about the outside Pokémon fandom and how they're stupid/awful/wrong/making things worse. These things are not part of the games themselves, Lily. If you truly want to meet these games on their own terms as games, stop bringing up outside fandom.
Her UA-cam platform has been less of a soapbox and more of an open declaration of war against everyone she hates. It was like that back when she was still "Jerry Peet" and before she went from "Dollar Tree Yahtzee Croshaw" to "Brony MovieBob."
I feel like, if she wasn’t in the thick of it. She would definitely be the type to avoid interacting with certain media only because of what she heard about the fandom.
@@lillianbygone8507 Yeah, no... this woman is a preening "My Way Or The Highway" narcissist who takes advantage of the Internet's ability to let morons shout into the void to declare herself "Social Justice Queen Of Darkness." She's full-bore Dark Galadriel. "ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR!"
"You don't have rivals in real life" Oh yeah sure especially if you're a sportsman, musician or a creative in the same field as someone else with comparable skills. Rivarlies are such a wacky fantasy concept am I rite?
people don't have pokemon irl or rainbow multiverse mafia or 10-16 yo going to dangerous unsupervised adventure but this shit is not bothering her lol. she just loves make most hilarious shitty takes ever w/o thinking or really dig into material. with su video this work so she kinda stuck to the formula of most stupid content ever
I remember thinking that was an odd statement as well. "Rival" is not a title people typically vocalize for sure, but most people in a semi competitive environment will be able to point at someone else and declare them a rival if you asked them. I feel this way about card games sometimes. There is always someone who is better than you, and there is always someone who is about the same level as you. There are opponents I have had that I truly do measure myself against, because they are good players, and earning a win against them is soooooooo gratifying. Its all a part of getting better at something. Plus the feeling of someone that really respect as an opponent telling you that they also see you in a similar way, or just telling you that you are good player. Its such a good feeling.
Bro the fact that Lily killed that Bunelbee pisses me off. X was my first Pokemon game and my first shiny that I ever encountered was an unown in the post game. Did I know it was a crap Pokémon? Yes did I still capture it? Hell yes! Honestly sometime I want to believe that this is just an online persona of hers to be so insufferable but hearing things about her really makes it hard to believe
In addition to that whole segment, Lily got extrinsic value confused with subjective value and then proceeded to make a case for subjective value while saying that it was fake because she wants to LARP as a political commentator while not knowing anything she's talking about.
Please do not deadname or misgender Lily Orchard. Let's focus on criticizing her ideas, not misgendering her.
It’s unfortunate people are using her as an excuse to be transphobic
@@juniorbunior142 that just seems to be a thing that happens whenever a terrible person who just happens to also be trans gets the spotlight
It's sad
Yeah it's really upsetting to see so often, like do these people realise how they come accross?
Like it's clear their allyship is entirely conditional on if you like the person or not. awful, awful stuff
I fear for the future of humanity, I believe humanity will be extinct by the year 3550 at the right we’re going
@@juniorbunior142 Given some of the horrid shit, accusations, and PDF File fetishism that particular “one I refuse to name or gender” has said/had over the years, I do not feel bad. As far as I’m concerned, scum like that does not deserve respect. Trans, “cis”, male, female, whatever. If you were scum all the way up to today with no attempt of changing, you deserve to be insulted and disrespected. “That person who will not be named or gendered” by me, is no exception.
INB4 people start moralizing to me: allow me to save you the typing time by saying I don’t care, you are not changing my mind on this just like how the hundreds of people before you haven’t been able to
Damn
She really went "the theme is either Us or Them" about the game that's literally about how things aren't Black or White
It continually amazes me how little media literacy she possesses.
But Pokémon is Black and White. And Black 2 and White 2
I still think a Pokemon Grey with the B2W2 storyline would have been on point, given the storyline for BW. @@John1-17
@@John1-17 Yep, and I have every one of those, because I have no friends... jk... but it really saves time trying to find someone who has the other ones.
Its so funny cause someone in the comments pointed out how she didnt get the themes or N and she had the nastiest fucking reply, shes so awful to anyone who disagrees with her
"XY is hard and unfair" is sure a take I was not expecting from anyone over the age of 6.
I have no idea how she managed to survive any baldur's gate game
@@SkFan5or life in general
I haven’t watched this video yet but this comment alone
It scares me
@@Glory2Snowstar It wasn't even the worst take from the video.
dw they dont even understand how the stats work, type chart works, or even the tag of the series, "gotta catch em all".
I would expect someone to cry if they're so new to the series despite playing the past 5 games straight to get straight up demolished by gen 6 despite how absurdly easy it is.
I now remember why on the back of the box, it says: "Basic reading comprehension is required to enjoy this game."
Even then, my little dyslexic brain could usually get through the whole game, if not at least to the elite 4, without ever comprehending a word. And I still somehow understood more of the mechanics and story than she did.
I can't believe a game would have to tell you this
@@emeraldace541VICTINI PFP SPOTTED!
OPINION RESPECTED!!
@@Marx80s thanks
@@Marx80s same to you
Lily gives N a "whiny crying boy" voice, while N spends almost the entirety of the game smiling at the player because he genuinely likes you and thinks you are a worthy rival to stand against him.
Even in the sequel he has nothing but respect for the main character of BW.
I think Lily hates N because N represents everything she isn't, someone who has the conviction to actually fight for his ideals, a gracious loser who can reflect upon his mistakes and learn from them and who people actually like.
Yeah she’s more like Ghetsis then anyone.
@@Shauntheduke.Especially with how she was literally cheering when Ghestis was verbally abusing N.
Like that's pretty fucked up and she's definitely not beating the allegations with that one.
Probably sees N as hitting to close to home and dislikes the abused being cheerful.
I don't even see how the character could be interpreted that way, he's almost abnormally calm all the time. It's like, his deal.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 uh... no???
Lily hates N's dialogue because she keeps losing to him and hates having to sit through his cutscenes multiple times.
Either that or she hates talk about understanding and sympathizing with people who have a different point of view.
@@Zorothegallade-rpgif lily is a trans person from what I’m hearing in the video it sounds like a dude
But yea if that’s the case most trans people will never ever listen to anything that doesn’t agree with there warped reality 😂but yea I guess I’ll have to hear how I’m a trans phobe for saying the truth 😊
@@Zorothegallade-rpg considering she's trying to strike two channels right now....
@@Zorothegallade-rpg
Both ideas is correct id say
I did not know anyone over the age of 4 would be capable of being stuck in a pokemon game
Lily is like a tourist that only visits the tourist traps to take a single picture and then go home complaining that her trip sucks
Nah, it's more like Peggy Hill refusing to open the one door in their vacation house and realizing they had a whole house and not just a tiny room to use, then complaining about how bad the service was.
she also goes to a place that everybody likes to go (bc it's good) and then say it's actually overhyped and bad
K 1:54:34 gV @@cassiehosh1677
As a bad tourist who has made this mistake in the past I’m offended you’d compare me to her
@@harrylane4 ... I'm just offended in general that you did that
i am unbearably pissed at Lily talking about how she one hit Yveltal by USING A MEGA SHE WASNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE YET- and she's so happy about it- despite the fact that the last thirty minutes of the same video was about how bad one hits are. I genuinely think she has the brain of a kindergartener
I can imagine her playing USUM and getting destroyed by the UBs.
"It's not bad when I do!" mentality absolutely fits Lily so much.
every time i read "Yveltal" all i can think of is that one Poketuber's pronunciation (you know the one)
@@freddiefishtonmy name is YAH VEL TAHL
@@squareboi9247 I call those Weltall, because Xenogears is awesome.
The fact that Lily can't differentiate a "thirst-trap gym leader" from a *usually* female character that shows more skin than the playable character says a lot. Like, I would absolutely let Olivia and Kukui plow me into next week, but I can also understand that that was not the main intention of their design and they are, in fact, just some silly little goobers.
And yet, she pulls the sexism card when Wally's ace gets changed in ORAS.
So damn hypocritical.
You basically explained here why Tifa never felt like she was a thirst trap, especially compared to Sephiroth. That's similar in a way cause when Remake trailers came out dudebros were crying over Tifa's outfit getting a sports bra and stockings. To me, it was clear that the design changes in Remake were most likely the result of Nomura feeling their designs looked unfinished and adding some minor changes to fix that. But they were mad that she wasn't sexy enough for them, despite the fact that a male character who dresses less revealingly was had far more thirst trap energy in the first place, something the director of the OG made note of!
High five, love Olivia and Kukui
@@RozenGermainlouder for the people in the back!
Doesn't like the stories.
Doesn't like the characters.
Doesn't like the exploration.
Doesn't like team building.
Doesn't like the combat.
Doesn't like the side events.
Likes Gardevoir.
But doesn't like Gallade.
This isn't a fan of pokemon. This is a horny tourist.
She sound less a fan of the franchise, and more of someone who found one of Gardevoir's porn once on the net, latched to it to an unhealthy degree and now try to justify her obsession by pretending to be a fan of the media where the character came from.
This makes the most sense honestly. I wouldn’t be surprised if she only got into Pokémon _purely_ because of R34 Gardevoir.
Bro I fr don’t understand why she even plays games especially Pokemon. She dislike 98% of Pokemon mechanics 😂
Devastating take. 10/10. “Horny tourist.” Jesus wept 🤣
@@phonybeautrain6520 Given what she did with her sister i'd be surprised if it wasn't Ralts porn
It is crazy that she considered herself a good writer after showing that she is not able to sit down and read for 5 minutes.
"Good writer" when all she writes is coffee shop slice of life fanfics.
I honestly dislike people who say they're 'writers' as a form of ethical appeal (ethos) in their media critiques when most of their writing is scripts for their critiques and if it IS story, it's most likely some poorly written fanfiction.
@@inky5574 That's so sad, some of my favorite stories of all time are publishing worthy fanfics, so I'm really tired of seeing people like Lily or EL James write shit(and have weird takes on abuse) and become the popular ones for it.
@@inky5574oh no... no theyve written things.
She?! 😂Bro what even
@@shironasama0445 yes lily is trans, this is irrelevant to the criticism, don't you dare.
The irony of her hating black and white because the characters ideals aren’t black and white like girl that’s the point 😭
She probably gets that and rather see everything in a black and white way
"OH NO, NUANCE" - Lily, probably
You know, there's this really good scene in B2W2, where your rival asks Clay why he allows ex-Plasma members to live in his city. Clay, the grown man that he is, responds something along the lines of "If you refuse to accept different people, you might end up rejecting any ideas other than your own. And that's mighty dangerous." To which Hugh, being the angsty teen unable to distinguish between the concrete person who hurt him and anyone ever associated with Team Plasma, mockingly replies "Is this one of those stupid compromises adults have to make??" and dismisses the whole thing.
This is a message aimed at 12 year olds (the target audience of pokemon). Not every member of a particular group is the same, don't judge a book by its cover.
And Lily fails to grasp that simple moral as a grown adult and proceeds to trash the game because "the bad guys don't all think the same".
@@mihaimercenarul7467 no????? Weirdo?????????
@@spacescribs5838 how am I a weirdo? He is a guy. You are the weird once for calling him a girl. You can't be born a male then pretend to be female, weirdo. People can make many choices, but choosing your gender after you were born is not one of them.
Lily explaining how psychic types weren't overpowered in gen 1 and then proceeding to explain exactly why they were overpowered was definitely a choice. "It was only because it was coded wrong and they had good STAB moves" YEAH LILY, THAT'S WHY THEY WERE OVERPOWERED.
"Silver is the same as Hop" WHAT, IN WHAT FUCKING UNIVERSE
@@grimai3257 Hell Silver is kind of a reverse Hop, or Hop is a reverse silver i guess
Least i think, i need to replay gen 2
@@Emily12471I’d say that’s pretty accurate actually. I think both are pretty good characters though. Just very different.
She completely misses the point of generation 7. In gen 7, your character is a person not of the Alolan culture, but the people are welcoming and friendly, and invite you to participate in one of their traditions as a way of welcoming you to the islands. It introduces a sort of slice-of-life vibe to the game and makes that aspect of it feel very cozy. Gen 7's theme is belonging, and how people who have been displaced or abandoned can find community and friendship elsewhere. Lillie and Gladion are estranged from their mother and they both find people to accept them just as the main character is accepted into Alola. Lillie finds Professor Kukui and Gladion finds Team Skull, which itself is made up of people who failed their island challenges and felt ostracized. That feeds into why Guzma dislikes the cultural emphasis placed on the island challenge--if you fail it, you're made to feel like you don't belong. His motivation is actually interesting and it's why he's one of the better antagonists. People really sleep on gen 7 because they're allergic to reading...
Adding to your point, gen7 anime in my opinion is the peak of Pokemon anime, it has such a good balance between deep/sad subject and fun/goofy stuff.
@@thewitchbasket I just want to say, THANK YOU!! for this cause it almost felt like I was going crazy listening to that part cause it felt weird to ignore such an integral aspect of it
I like the characters, but the handholding was too much for me.
I played the absolute fuck out of the Gen 7 games, both Base and Ultra.
@@Lemonrollcake aside from the characters and shit gen 7 kind of sucked ass imo. i've never felt more bored playing any other game, and they were the only games in the series that i dropped after about an hour or two of playing lol (i did eventually finish them though)
Why does she call it sexist when wally gets a gallade when she's the one sexualizing gardevoir in the first place?
no, no, see, she doesn't mean sexist as in misogynistic. she means sexist as in she doesn't want to be intimate with a gallade. BIG difference /s
"gardevoir is super hot so why isnt galade super hot?!" "Uh...gardevoir isnt supposed to be hot. Its an animal"
She probably saw Gardevoir as this fairytale princess Pokémon, when it's meant to be a magical knight (hence why it's japanese name is literally sirknight)
Gallade is just a lot more explicit about it's inspiration
@@sev1120Given that Gardevoir Gender ratio is 50/50 chance of being Male or Female
@@SuperEasywalker i mean there were female knights (Joan of Arc being a prominent example), and in most fantasy media lady characters tend to be better at defensive and supporting magics, whereas male tend to be better at offensive magics, so having a magical knight that can use all three (psychic/fairy being the pinnacle "magic" type combo) be any gender does fit, and Gallade shifts from Mage to Paladin, combining the arcane arts with expert swordplay (and in mythohistory, this is usually filled by a Male character)
for anyone here who got this randomly in their recommended and dont know much about lily orchard, her sister has gone on record to say she was sexually abused by her so please do not go to her channel to even hate watch any reviews shes made. she does these hate reviews largely on purpose to get traction, views, and money.
Eww, good to know. Never heard of this person. Is there a video or post from the sister I can find? I’m curious what she has to say.
@Kenpachi546 if you look up lily orchard sister, youll find a few videos on it.
Search up Courtney Peet, you should see her name pop up @@Kenpachi546
@@Kenpachi546you can search up “lily orchard sister” to get most of the “drama”, but her name is courtney, and she made a video called “my name is courtney orchard” from the channel “courtney peet”.
Ilovekimpossiblealot has a few words on it.
Lily Orchard fundamentally doesn't understand the rivals, because of who she is as a person.
She views Blue as a "friend", when he's a snot-nosed brat who makes people feel small so he can make himself feel big. By the time of the Johto games, and when you meet him and Red in US/UM, he's grown into a decent person, albeit one who is highly competitive streak who likes to prove himself against strong trainers.
Silver is an abandoned kid, and knowing Giovanni we know his father was negligent at best. He lashes out because, deep down, he wants the attention and acknowledgement his Father never gave to him.
Brendan/May serve a mentorship figure, guiding you through your Pokémon journey, which is reflected in Wally. You help each other grow stronger because you believe in each others potential
Barry is the driving force of the Sinnoh games. His actions are what gets the plot started, and whilst his impatience can get him into trouble he's always there to help bail you out of trouble because that's what friends are for
Cheren and Bianca are parallels to each other. Cheren relies on his knowledge of Pokémon, whereas Bianca uses grit and determination, but they need to seek a balance to become optimal trainers, hence why they drop out of being trainers (Cheren to be a gym leader, Bianca to be an assistant to Professor Juniper). N is an ideological opposite. He believes that Pokémon should be free to choose what they want to do and who they want to train alongside, but he's being strung along by an authoritarian parental figure. He provides an example on how a pursuit of an ideal future, to make that future true, can hurt you in the long run if you pursue it blindly.
Hugh (from B2/W2) is the true friendly rival. He teams up with you more than he battles against you, and whilst your reasons to start your journey are different, you come to rely on each other as if you were battle-brothers.
Calem/Serena are basically Brendan/May+. They and the rest of the squad have the designing principle of expanding their horizons, being the best they can be for themselves in their own way. Trevor seeks to know all there is to know about Pokémon, Tierno’s an artist, not a fighter, while Shauna’s here to make friends and memories. The unchosen protagonist is the child of two of the greatest trainers of their generation, and when the player shows up as an excellent trainer in their own right, they feel like a worthless nepo baby in comparison. They constantly look out for their friends and try to set a good example because it’s the only thing they have. By the time you beat them in Kiloude, they’ve stopped comparing themself to you, having realized that they are special in that they’re the only them.
For the later trainers, they're as follows.
I'll skip over Kalos coz I didn't play those games and don't know enough about them, but from what I've heard the rivals there combine elements of Hugh, Barry, and Brendan/May
Alola has Hau, who swrves as a friend and mentor, like how the gen 3 rivals function, but he has another aspect that's important. Hau is, unambiguously, a good guy. He never once is shown to be annoyed or irritated at losing, instead viewing it as an example of how far you have come. He's the ultimate supportive friend, and he goes out of his way to ensure that you not only have fun, but can get stronger and complete the Island Challenge so you can feel like you've fully integrated into Alola, rather than remaining an outsider.
Hop in Galar is another friendly rival, but there's also hints of quiet resentment bubbling below the surface. He looks up to his brother Leon, and sets out on his journey alongside you, but no matter how hard he tries he can never beat you, can never prove himself as your equal. That self-loathing eats away at him, but he pushes it aside when he is chosen by either Zacian or Zamazenta (depending on your version). He proves himself as worthy enough in his own eyes, and that's all a friend can ask for. For your friend to be happy.
Scarlet and Violet has 3 main rival figures. Penny, Nimona and Arven. All of them work with you for various reasons. Penny wants to atone for a misdeed, but feels she is unworthy to do it herself. Arven wants to save a dear friend, but needs your help. Nimona has grown bored of sitting at the top, and wishes to work alongside you to help you become a champion and give her a challenge again. Were it not for the player character bringing them all together near the end of the story as a coalition of friends, then it's probable that calamity would have struck. They show that, even if you're an ace in your field, you sometimes need an arm to lean on, a shoulder to cry on.
You guys are right!
I noticed something about Lily just now... Character Growth is non existent for her.
Her first interaction with a character is THE only viewpoint she'll have with that character for the whole game.
She doesn't believe a character can change or grow, apparently?
I fully bet that if Lily ever got into Borderlands she'd unironically be saying shit like "Handsome Jack Did Nothing Wrong".
Edit: to clarify, I mean that she'd unironically support Jack's idea of "Civilizing" Pandora, not noticing (or caring) that Jack's idea of "Civilizing Pandora" is really just "Killing Anyone On The Planet That Doesn't Worship The Ground I Walk On".
Given that she's never experienced character growth herself, i'm not surprised.
This is clearly because she gets bored reading early on and doesn't read the rest of the dialog. ☠️
This actually makes sense why she doesn't understand specific characters. Because she doesn't see the character growth that she just sees... The first impression and that's it.
The absolute flipside of Steven Universe.
How utterly apt.
The repeated point of "Pokemon games are poorly balanced because they're not balanced specifically around the Gardevoir line" is actually the funniest take anybody has ever thrown out lmao
I'm genuinely obsessed with her for this, like I can't even be mad it's just so outrageous and bizarre.
I can't help but applaud her for it. Every time she says it, it gets funnier. And she's so relentlessly dedicated to this absurd take that I have no choice but to respect it so hard.
The funniest way I've ever seen someone shit on Pokemon tbh. It's the same vibe as your younger sibling who was super into charizard when you showed them your save file and then in their own playthrough didn't get why the big fire lizard can't solo through the water gym
It’s even funnier, because Gardevoir is a really solid Pokémon 😭
@iheartblock3792 Yeah if you cant beat a pokemon game using Gardevoir, then frankly its a skill issue.
Ive soloed pokemon games with much worse pokemon, with level caps. So have many others.
I should just be able to sweep the whole game with my ralts and never get hit once 😤
tbf, Lily Orchard also doesn't understand consent, so expecting her to understand X and Y is a big ask
Tbf, Lily Orchard doesn't understand many things that isn't being vitriolic, tooting how her opinion is the best or being very happy to see someone she hates being berated by his abusive father. (In a way, that's not gonna beat any of her abuse allegations anytime soon)
OOF 💀
Doesn't understand consent
Hates capitalism
Socialist
Terrible pokemon takes
Makes fun of the right far too much
Fun.
@@justjackorwhatever only the first one is a valid reason to dislike her imo
@@justjackorwhatever Should've stopped at the beginning
the moment she said she's modifying/hacking the GenIV+ games to include Ralts she lost whatever little credibility she had left for this. How can anyone claim they're making a retrospective/critique of something but refuses to engage with what that thing gives them right from the beginning? This is really just someone talking about Pokémon who really hates playing Pokémon except for one single one of them. It's not a retrospective, it's just a display of how hot and bothered she gets for Guardevoir.
Edit: good lord, her Gen V ""analysis"" I'm getting an aneurism. The way she keeps ignoring the abuse and gaslighting N suffered as the core of his issues and tried to paint him as just some douchebag who loves talking is *infuriating*. And no, Lily, Unova's writing isn't just good to kids who've never seen anything else before. I was a young adult when I played these for the first time and understood every tiny minutia the subtext wants to tell (sometimes more and sometimes less elegantly) and all of it holds water, and that what makes Gen V so compelling -- it presents several opinions that hold water in their own right but that both sides refuse to let live in coexistence, as a compromise. But I guess for someone who has so far demonstrated quite comprehensively that she hates reading and comprehending what she has read, I'm not surprised she has no idea what these games are even trying to say or why they're so beloved.
On a related note, my dude, your analysis of N is on point!
That's exactly what I said while watching this video!!!
Jaiden animations did the same thing when playing digimon on ds, she just jumped right to using an action replay. Are their brains just hardwired into doing shit like this when jumping into a new game and being given that choice? I never knew any actual pokemon players who went right into using an AR or gameshark so quickly as a kid even i didnt use one til after i beat the games on my own first lmao
"The battles are too easy, Pokémon sucks."
"The battles are too hard, Pokémon sucks."
"This one strategy I am using steamrolls everything, Pokémon sucks."
"The one strategy I am using has a counter, Pokémon sucks"
"There's too much walking interrupting gameplay, Pokémon sucks"
"There's too much gameplay interrupting walking, Pokémon sucks"
"I'm ignoring all this dialogue because Pokémon sucks."
"I have no idea what is going on because I ignored the dialogue, Pokémon sucks"
"The story is too silly, Pokémon sucks"
"The story is too serious, Pokémon sucks"
"I want to kill cats and have sexual relations with Gardevoir, am I not sooo edgy and funny, he he, also Pokémon sucks"
"Pokemon sucks my p-"
@@robertlupa8273 considering how hard she's lusting for gardevoir...
That's litterally it omg you managed to recap the whole Lily 6 hours video in one comment 😂☠️
"Pokémon exists, Pokémon sucks"
@@Raksha-64 tbf that IS true
For someone who likes Gardevoir a lot, and calls it 'broken'. She never acknowledges the awful stats Ralts and Kirlia have.
It's no surprise she had a rough time during Gen 6 with the Rock gym. Kirlia, a stage 1 pokémon, has less Base stats than a starter pokémon.
The starters tend to have some well rounded stats in all of their stages (except for the first two gens for reasons) which is what makes them perfect beginner Pokémon. Not so much with Ralts which has a stat distribution on par with Baby Pokémon. No wonder she struggled until it fully evolved into Gardevoir.
@@GravityFaizI really don't understand why Lily complains about the AI doing so much damage when she insists on using almost exclusively glass cannons. Kirlia especially before evolving to Gardevoir is made of glass bones and paper skin with a defensive spread that's worse than almost if not every 1st stage starter pokemon.
@@armedweiss5531 fennekin has the lowest base stat total of all first stage starter Pokemon at 307. Kirlia has a base stat total of 278. Fennekin's base stats are all higher across the board with the sole exception being its special attack which is 3-point lower than kirlia's.
@@armedweiss5531so true, I typically use teams entirely of glass cannons but at least I admit it
In the video she actually does at least once say that ralts and kirlia have shit stats. The problem is that only makes her seem lazier because she continues to waste her time using them and complaining that the game sucks when she loses.
lily's utter contempt for lavender town's "creepypastas written by CHILDREN" and people complaining about the game being "too hard!!!" is SO funny when later she's ... struggling to win at said CHILDREN's game, and complaining it's too hard
"B-but ma damage scaling..."
And she actively makes it HARDER for herself by modding in ralts and then shits on the game for it like she didn’t actively do that to herself!
@@undercookedtoast1479 b-b-but gardevoir is the best pokemon ever!! and, and, sting moves bad!! or whatever lmao. her review of the games isn't even a review of the games because she isn't playing them, she's trying to recreate her fantasy of meeting and raising her pokemon team. which is fine but how effective her pokemon are at said game and how easy it is for her to ignore the story to do that are not actually measures of the game's quality.
I'm half tempted to learn how to make a Pokemon rom hack just so I can make Pokemon Lily Orchard edition. It's 1 hour of walking in a straight line being insulted by your rival with the only Pokemon being Ralts.
Honestly I'd settle for making Lily a random trainer in a game. Give her a Gardevoir and program her AI to spam Calm Mind. Maybe put an underleveled Butterfree in there too. Have her insult you after losing and say something like "Ugh, I need some unwinding after this. G, teleport us home." _(you know what the two would do ;] )_
And as a cherry on top, put her deep inside an optional cave dungeon. :D
@@robertlupa8273 Nah, she'd think that was a homage.
@@robertlupa8273 nah get an hour long cutscene of her being dragged to jail with her pokemon confiscated
Lily Orchard's ideal story is Protagonist walking down an empty hallway to Unambiguously Evil Antagonist, killing them in one hit, and then the story ends.
And with her being able to use gardevior to ohko them
To be fair One Punch Man is pretty good
@@supersaiyankirby OPM also has a bunch of goons in that long hallway trying (and failing) to stop him. (The hallway is street, and he's trying to get groceries)
@@supersaiyankirbyThe amount of goons constantly trying and failing to fight Saitama would turn the narrative into a slog for her
Ok we have to make sure the umambiguously evil guy is specifically made in a way to be a person lily doesn't like
Can't have a redemption
Can't be a difficult fight
Can't be an easy fight
Can't be in the middle
Can't be subtle (she'll misunderstand it)
Can't be surface level (she'll misunderstand it)
Can't be over 18 (i'm not legally allowed to finish this joke)
Can't be... uhh...
"N would be so much better if he was some guy in a bench you would talk to about the ideologies of Team Plasma"
Oh, so you could ignore him Lily?
What was the ferris wheel scene then 😭 did they just... not realize thats Exactly what N tried to do??
@@MrSeals1000 She means that it'd be better if that was all _he_ did. She would've preferred if N only appeared at the ferris wheel and nowhere else.
@@robertlupa8273she just seems to hate when RPGs have recurring characters
Seems Lily doesn’t know wtf a major character is in a story
That's not even mentioning how Lysandre *did* monologue about resources. That's why the professor brought it up in the first place!
For someone who claims to be indigenous, Lily is remarkably insensitive towards the Native Hawaiian culture. Of which Sun and Moon is steeped in. Hell she even missed the running plot of Sun and Moon that invasive species of Pokemon are wiping out the Alolan variants. Which is a very real problem Hawaii faces in real life.
Right, she literally went from making a crass comment about Gladion being a colonizer to complaining about Hokulani being some kind of difficult word that needs to f off. Also not surprised that she made a joke about Poni Island, but all of the island names are Hawaiian words for colors that correspond to the real life islands as well.
Not gonna lie, I also missed that subplot in Sun and Moon. I can certainly understand it, I just don't recall it being mentioned in the game.
Very true! And on top of that, the Alolan region is actually representative of a lot of islands and their unique environments coming under threat, even up to and including _Australia,_ the largest island in the world, which is why Komala is included in the dex lineup!
Her indigenousness is more of a crutch she uses to be racist, also if you know about any of the fanfics she wrote, oh boy
He's about as indigenous as chris chan and elisabeth warren lol
I’m sorry but as someone who owns Platinum, her saying she hacked Ralts into the game absolutely SENT ME because in Platinum. You can get Ralts fairly early-ish (You can get Ralts at a good level before Fantina, the third gym leader in Platinum)
But no Lily just HAS to hack in Ralts at the beginning because Lily HAS to use her waifu at the start because she’s too impatient to beat the first two gyms and go to Route 208😭
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING!!!! Cant you get ralts literally directly before the first gym??
@ I think so? I admittedly forgot a few details since it’s been a while since I played Platinum, but I think you can get Ralts either before Gardenia (the second gym) or before Fantina (the third gym in this game).
But then again, if Lily got Ralts legitimately in Platinum she’d be whining and crying about how her Psychic child can’t beat Turtwig or Duskull
Hell she did the same for gen 9, where Ralts is always on the first route, literally every time
The hypocricy for Lily to claim that Lucamine proves Game Freak is sexist, whilst also ignoring Cynthia's relevance as a respected woman in power that the fandom also adores
while not even understanding lucamine's character btw.
Oh no, i havent finished the video but i hope to god she isnt defending lusamine and calling GF sexist for saying that the horrible parental abuser is bad….
Fucking lucamines own fucking daughter is shown as a strong independent woman. Like how the fuck is gamefreak sexist when every game before had men as the main villains
It's not just that, the Pokemon franchise is *FILLED* with amazing female characters, not ever shown to be inferior to men, never once in fact.
It's so stupid to even talk about this, since Pokemon has always been for everyone and has been kind to everyone of all ages and of all people, never limited to one. That's always been the goal of Pokemon. Lily should be ousted from the internet
If Game Freak is sexist, not having a lead to the criminal faction that they have in every game be a woman until the 7th generation is more of a sign of that than anything else.
There's a reason Starter Pokemon are designed the way they are. They evolve earlier than almost any other Pokemon in the game, they tend to get access to good STAB options early, and their base stats are pretty high when compared to their early-game peers. They're meant to be reliable and to help you get through hard fights that you might not have been able to manage with your other Pokemon. And most importantly, they're designed to be this way from the beginning of the game all the way to the end.
A level 19 Ralts, a Pokemon with 198 BST, is not going to stand up to Totem Wishiwashi the way a level 19 Dartrix (BST 420) would. Even if you took the time to evolve Ralts, Kirlia is still slower, frailer, and offensively weaker than Dartrix, and you're still probably going to lose the fight. For the entire first half of the game, using Ralts as a starter is a MASSIVE disadvantage, and if you're up to that challenge, then more power to you, but you can't then turn around and complain about "inflated damage values". Ralts is a Pokemon that has stats on par with Caterpie and Weedle but evolves 10 levels later than them. It's simply not capable of being the backbone of a Pokemon team.
EDIT: It gets even worse. Starter Pokemon are part of the Medium Slow experience group. Despite the name, Pokemon in this group actually level up very quickly early on, by needing fewer experience points to gain a level. (In fact, they grow faster than Pokemon in the Fast group all the way until level 30!) This allows the starter Pokemon to keep pace with the intended level curve of the early game, as well as rewarding the player for, you know, using their starter.
Ralts, on the other hand, is in the Slow experience group. True to its name, this group is very slow at gaining experience, from level 1 to level 100, meaning it doesn't benefit from the weird fluctuation of the Medium Slow rate. This means that it is going to feel like a SLOG to level this Pokemon up. (If you've ever played Gen 3 and wondered why leveling up your Nincada felt like such a chore, well, that's why)
Comparing the two experience tables, the difference is shocking. To reach level 19, a Dartrix needs 4575 experience points. A Ralts at the same level needs 8573 points! It's no wonder Lily was underleveled all the time; by using Ralts as a starter, you literally need to put in double the work for only half the results.
TL;DR If you want to have fun playing Pokemon, don't use Ralts as your starter.
I know! Seeing them complain about ralts getting oneshot was always so infuriating to me 👹👹👹
sir I agree with all of your point but one thing, "chikorita"
@@L_Nivaleeven Chikorita is a reliable pick with solid bulk and screens
@@naganut9718 definetely not for early game, first 2 gym is supereffective against them
@L_Nivale chikorita essentially only gets fucked over by the game it started in. because the johto gyms and team rocket leave grass type pokemon in general at a disadvantage. you'd have more value playing the whole game without a grass type, it's not only a chikorita problem. in the grand scheme of things, chikorita is a decent bulk starter, it just gets outshined by other bulky grass types.
Lily claims to be a critic of media, but then most of her criticisms lie in the realm of "tldr, I don't like to watch, listen to, or read stories"
She also doesn't like having to form independent opinions and then change those opinions as new information is made available
big thing to note specifically about Lily Orchard: she is an infamous rage baiter. i'm genuinely convinced that all of her "takes" are her just brainstorming in her room for hours about what would best piss people off. she probably had the idea to shit on one specific game from Pokemon, but then figured, "wait, what if i pissed them all off, and then made it a 6 and a half hour video, forcing everyone to watch the entirety of it just so they could cling to the hope that i might actually make a good point?"
genuinely awful person, while we're at it. i've yet to hear ONE redeeming quality about Lily ever since i first learned of them.
IDK man from back when I innocently stumbled onto her channel she feels way more like the kind of person who rage baits out of thier own bitter saltiness then someone who intentionally creates entire videos of bad takes. I watched her JK Rowling critique video and it ended up just being pot shots at everyone who supported Rowling, and also the people who decided to separate art from artist and still watch/read/be part of the Harry Potter fandom. There was genuine emotion in that, and some sane takes mixed with bad ones. This feels pretty much exactly the same.
Also, uh...if you think someone's going to do a 6 hour long video for a rage bait...which BTW probably took some like a hundred hours total to play/record/script/edit...no lmao no one's doing that just to rage bait.
Lily's rant about Gardevoir being "broken" is awe inspiring.
Like... Lily... Lily. Smogon and the VGC community knows how Calm Mind works. You are not a revolutionary for realizing it's a good move. It's also well known among the hardcore romhack crowd that the AI is not well designed for dealing with set-up sweepers. You are also ignoring that discussion of competitive pokemon are specifically in the *context of competitive pokemon.*
Also. *Also.* Gardevoir was OU in gen 3! People thought it was good! You can read all about how good it was on Smogon! It won Worlds in 2014! It's just been power crept!
Peak making up people to be mad at. No notes. Grass has never touched her fingers.
granted lily would probably write off the power creep bit as "competitive player bullshit" in order to maintain the idea that her favorite piece of goon material is the greatest while also denying that she has a sexual attraction to Gardevoir.
@@donaldpaccerelli198 I don't think they're hiding it considering she drew her and Gardevoir having a kid, iirc
@@phlogistinatorpb oh for sure, but if someone calls her on it she'll trip over herself in a rush to say "nuh-uh! your the pokephiliac! not me!" but, if she just said she wanted gardivoir carnally at least then she'd be a hypocrite given how she's railed against people who want to fuck one of the humanoid pokemon in the past. (which isn't weird of an idea, our species/evolutional ancestors has had a history of fucking it evolutionary cousins. in fact we share a type of pubic lice with gorillas iirc. and we tend to be attached to almost anything that looks like us to an extent. there's the reason the harkness test exists in the first place.)
Gardevoir was never good in RSE no offense.
The only real niche it sort of has is as a reflect memento user on shitty Linoone gimmick teams because Trace let it trap Dugtrio and technically use it as setup fodder to do so.
Setting up stat ups on any pokemon is pretty busted (in single player) like you said, the ai is not really equipped to deal with set up sweepers generally, against a real player the best counter if someone is setting up is Bring in something to stop it with roar or killing it with type effectiveness. They will generally just kinda sit there and let you get max stats. Even a pokemon as lacking in stats like smeargle can beat just about anything with enough stat modifiers slapped on it. Gardevoir is certainly a fine pokemon, but there are other pokemon that can just set up sweep faster.
Considering Lily Orchard's sister has come forward about the abuse she suffered from Lily, I'm not entirely sure Lily knows what being nice is, so I guess her opinion on Blue makes sense.
I wonder how much of the “blue was being a good friend actually” was just “that’s how I treated people when I was younger”
@@MaidenOfAir Remember also: Vulnerability is pathetic to Lilly
She is the person that said to beat your bully so much their month breaks @MaidenOfAir
I don't believe for a second Courtney SAed her. I just don't.
Personally, i don't think any of her trauma she says is actually real
Considering her take on hiding in private too... she REALLY doesn't know what being nice is
The fact that she sided with Ghetsis, a psychopathic abuser, verbally assaulting N, a literal grooming victim, because of her petty hatred for him is insane. She seriously ignored all the abuse and manipulation N went through as a orphan child just to dismiss him as a "debatebro."
She does the exact same thing to Hunter from Owl House same level of disdain and hatred for an abused and brainwashed child... she hates abuse victims becaue she's an abuser herself
I have to admit while I don't particularly care for N either (just not my cup of tea) but even I know his final act with Ghetsis in BW is easily one of the most engaging and best parts of his arc and the whole game. Lily is literally psychologically incapable of going outside her own preferences that of course she'd have to resort to pure spite and dismissal at that point, otherwise her brain would fry at what she's engaging with.
This is Lilly “I abused my little sister” Orchard. What did you expect.
Honestly comparing N to FRICKIN VAUSH is the worst insult she could've used
@@GabyGeorge1996 they wrote a mlp comic around it too (same themes but probably not about her sister, you know what I mean 😅)
“Ew handholding”
“Ew difficulty”
“Ew story”
“Ew characters”
“Ew dungeons”
“Ew cities”
“Ew trainers using tactics”
Lily just wants ScVi’s open world filled with only steamroller-able enemies
No because gen 9 has stories that deals with trauma and bullying, and she'd probably kill Arven's parents again in front of him to get off and write more erotic fanfiction about it. Oh and god forbid she takes four months to get through the story of the DLC's because she can't teambuild or battle for shit.
Lily: Hacks in a pokemon that's frail in the early game in exchange for lategame power
Also Lily: "Why are enemy pokemon doing so much more damage than mine?"
Yeah why not just hack in a Gardevoir to begin with at this point. Clearly she wants to be validated about her "lover's" brokenness.
@@robertlupa8273 ... Because it's Lily Orchard and the Ralts and Kirlia stages are part of the appeal.
(She's written a bunch of THAT kind of fanfiction about minors.)
@@000Dragon50000yeah I really think the fact she hacks in a RALTS instead of it’s final evolved form really says a lot. Especially considering her accused real life interactions with minors and how her sister recently accused her of viewing drawn images of children in that way…
@aaronymous9 her sister has said and Lilly agreed Lilly sexually assaulted her sister. It ain't just the drawings.
@@aaronymous9Maybe within context. But on its surface it seems perfectly reasonable to start with the pre-evolved form. Not only does it feel less like cheating, but evolution is part of the fun in Pokemon.
I KNEW IT! When she started "hinting" at not liking N, I thought, "Oh, he definitely beat her a bunch of times so now she hates him." And yep! The ferris wheel scene just proves that.
Not to mention that she's just siding with a child abuser
@@donovanlocust1106do they know?
@@at_witts_end3470they do not.
@@at_witts_end3470 I don't know. Did Lily also abuse a child on top of all her other crimes, or is this a reference to Stockholm?
@@firewolfandrewbshe did. she sexually assaulted her own sister, courtney peet. she had a video talking about what lily did to her
Lily is not a media analyst, she just uses media to attack people she doesn’t like. Like half of her reviews are snide comments on other people.
Only half?
she used screenshots of literal jokes to accuse vaush of being a felony s3x off3nd3r and called him racist with literally zero evidence
Snide is the perfect word to describe that woman.
@@vidmanandrew09 the other half is incoherent foaming at the mouth
The way she attacked Rebeca sugar in her Steven universe video and stops just short of saying sugar, who is Jewish is actually a Nazi apologist is truly sickening
"these gym leaders are all such thirst traps- someone at game freak must have a type!!"
Lily I need you to look at all the gym leaders you just named and use your brain for a second. What do they all have in common?
They're all water type gym leaders, they're dressed showing a lot of skin because they're WATER type leaders- they spend a lot of time in the WATER. This is, like, basic character design. It's literally just the most natural, logical decision for their costuming. It's not the game devs being thirsty, they're just doing their jobs.
Hell, a lot of water types learn Ice Type moves. You know what you don't want when you get drenched in ice cold water and need to warm up? A lot of fabric that you need to get through to begin drying off.
Bear Grylls taught me that.
Fuck, now I want a Bear Grylls water type gym leader
Wow, "known serial abuser literally cannot identify obvious bullying" is not how I expected this to start, but... maybe I should have expected it.
If it was literally anybody else it could at least be passed off as a joke, but given how vocal the Pokemon fandom is about pre-development-in-the-later-games (especially in the early days when he and his anime/Gary incarnation were our only frame of reference for the character) Blue *and* Lily's past history, it doesn't really paint a rosy picture in Lily's favor.
It seems like it was a general theme in the video and from many comments a them in her life too.
Well, normalised generational abuse can warp your perception of what is abuse, like for example people are still ingesting, buying and not treating the animals at home as equals? Also abelist, as well as speciesist, too?
I assume gen 3 is the first Pokémon game she ever played.
Her love of Friends (from your video on her 'writing' tips) made me wonder if she was older than me but even before she referenced her age, I realized she's younger because, at the least, it seemed clear to me that her first video games weren't the grindy, repeatative ones that were essentially necessitated by the limits of hardware at the time of earlier home and handheld video games. Seems she wants the story spoon fed to her, forced into it, and 'fake' challenging (aka just hard enough to feel moderately rewarding without offering any actual challenge).
“The game is too easy, but I keep getting OHKOd by super effective moves, but UA-camrs that say offensive strats are optimal are STUPID because defensive strategies are OP, but I keep losing to overpowered Pokémon, because game is too easy”
........what?
Seriously, had I not watched thr video, this would look like complete nonsense... because it is. Lily is spouting nonsense.
doublethink
But don't you understand that AI damage outputs are unfair???
Lily onto nothing bro 😭
I still don't get what lily was saying. I read it a few times over and I don't understand.
i'm stuck on how lily orchard just willfully misunderstands why n has a different team in each battle. like those aren't pokemon he's just catching for funsies and then releasing when they fail him. those are always pokemon that can be found in the surrounding area who are helping him out because he asked them to. those are his friends, and he's returned them to their natural habitat after he leaves the area. but since n is actually just junichi matsuda's rantsona i guess, he's just a guy who hates pokemon or whatever.
It's headscratching for sure. I wouldn't consider myself a pokemon superfan or anything, I only played through Black/White the one time, but at no point during the story did I *not* believe that N genuinely cared about the pokemon. Team Plasma were a bunch of hypocrites for sure, but N's flaw was pretty clearly "he doesn't realize that he's the one true believer in an organization of power-hungry opportunists".
@@ecyor0 It's not that he's the only one, but it's moreso that as Black 2/White 2 show, there's like...maybe 10% of the team that believed in it. The rest were fully onboard Ghetsis' plan
@@NHarmoniusN was part of that 10%
@@frannielmartinez and the ones loyal to N wear the classic Knight-style uniform, whereas the ones loyal to Ghetsis went full paramilitary organisation in their design. They're not just an evil team, they're Ghetsis' private army
@@sev1120 Basically, Nicolas Maduro
I’m at Gen 5 now and I’ve come to a very frustrating realization. Using the same Pokémon in every game is literally robbing yourself of an experience. Each adventure takes place in a new region and introduces tons of new creatures for you to experiment with. Playing like Lily, you’re robbing yourself of discovery, making new allies, goodness, you’re robbing yourself one of the greatest aspects of Pokémon as a series. You’re not engaging with that region, you’re not learning, though yeah, we’ve established she’s not interested in that, but there’s a reason it hit me now. Gen 5 is the first game that forces the player to use new Pokémon entirely for the initial adventure. I adore this. I wish more entries did this. I hadn’t played an entry at release since Gen 2, so it was like enjoying the idea of Pokémon for the first time all over again. I still remember that I named my Tepig “Barbecue” and thought it was the funniest thing ever. There were memories created because my team was entirely new. It was a beautiful experience then and it is now, and sacrificing that wonder and investment for, let’s be honest, a very NSFW reason, is just sad.
every time a new pokemon game comes out, i make a conscious decision to only use the new pokemon in my first playthrough. i'm surprised most people don't do this, i thought that was kinda the point 😅
She just wants the NSFW
This is in part why I also sympathized but understood why exactly they did Dexit as well for SnS. With literal thousands of the buggers, having a game where you essentially both start from scratch with the roster AND not have to worry about the backlog in late-game balance would in theory be refreshing both to players and the devs. Of course, that wound up kinda a disaster but...
I’m losing my mind over Lily using Gardevoir as a set up sweeper and calling it broken as if that isn’t a thing any pokemon can do
Then in gen 6 complaining how boring sweeping is, like lily you caused this
Bro speaks like Marshadow (Or Kingambit, or Fluttermane, or Mega Gengar, or anything ghost, steel or poison) cannot eat Gardevoir alive any day
And as if there aren't other Pokemon that can set up the exact same way and do it BETTER than Gardevoir
@@lunaitor-uq9hz there isnt, everyone knows only gardevoir can learn calm mind, psychic, or thunderbolt. These are all their exclusive moves. Also gardevoir is a tank frfr, i swear u cannot kill it
I've done that with a Mawile in a key item random for Stephen lmao, she's not special.
....yes I had to fight tooth and nail to make it work, but it did.
>makes a retrospective around the entire pokemon series with the idea she wants to do a critical take with the removal of nostalgia
>shit talks all pokemon gens
>is very clearly nostalgic for gen 3, doesn't shit talk it as much
what was she thinking
gen 3 best gen like any smart person (5 is better this is to get you mad)
@@troytheboy1985gen 3 is probably the best generation design wise now Pokemon on the other hand I'll just say that a lot of the weak megas are just gen 3 Pokemon
@@ioletsgo7539 it’s not even a good retrospect from the point of retrospect. Retrospects ask that in addition to engaging with the medium while also researching the stuff around it, she’s just playing the game once and making judgements off that one experience. A more fitting descriptions for what she did is like JaidenAninations’ playthrough of Pokemon Rangers or Digimon where she played it and had thoughts on the game, but apparently doing it that way isn’t as _intellectual_
@@troytheboy1985 gen 3 is cool: buut it does need a proper glow up. Oras almost hit the mark for me.
Fun lil story, I got my GBA at a yard sale. It was for 25 cents. Isn't that insane! Now the justification was the mother who sold it said her son left it there and she had no clue if it worked and it had no games with it, so she wasn't going to charge much for it. I spent more on the charger lmao.
But my first game for it was pokemon ruby, not my first pokemon game, but the first i bought my self with earned cash. I got others for holiday gifts/birthdays, in which im thankful for to this day because i hold them dear to me. But despite liking so much of gen 3, oras just didn't hit the full. There was just some more to be desired. I guess it would be a REIMAGINATION of gen 3 over being revamped, but sometimes, these games deserve that chance of being reimagined.
I couldn’t do a reveiw on Pokémon because I’m a unova baby and my bias would be so obvious
"They're cities Lily" absolutely killed me, you're completely correct, but the exasperated sass was amazing
I hate how much she glazes Gardevoir and hacks it in as her starter only to complain about how difficult the game is. Ralts doesn't have a stat above 50 and your stuck with it until level 20. Then when it finally does evolve it just gets 10 tacked onto every stat. Thats worse than TREEKO and your stuck with it until level 30. To make it even worse it's in the slow XP group. She effectively did a challenge run and then complained about the game being too hard.
I'm unseasonably angry right now. "Damage values are horrible! 🤬" YOUR USING A POKEMON WITH A BASE DEFENSE OF 25
And then she starts blabbering on about how the game directors are horrible old men who don't know what they're doing as if they're the sole developer's and doesn't even read the sources she's sighting. When is she going to understand that games have plot? WHY DOES SHE HATE GAMES HAVING PLOT!? She doesn't even like Pokemon, she just likes some of the designs. I feel like I'm going insane seeing her rant on and on spewing out the worst takes I've ever heard.
That was my reaction too. Ralts is a horrible Pokemon until it becomes decent by the time of its final evolution. All of her moaning about damage values boils down to patently weak Pokemon with low HP - a measure of a GOOD game that makes you struggle in the immediate for a greater reward later. The game can't both be easy and constantly one-shotting you, Lily.
Imagine hacking your game to substitute the actual starters with a Pokémon with worse stats than Treecko that takes forever to evolve and get good, just to live out your twisted fantasy of making sweet love to an "angry celery." You'd have to be a real clown to do that 🙃
She doesn't actually like Gardevoir. She just wants to have sex with it. That's it
The fact that Lily Orchard constantly belittles, insults, and downplays the trauma of 3 victims of child abuse (N, Lillie, and Gladion) really says something about her as a person.
Also Silver! He's not as explicit an example, but still definitely has a toxic upbringing too.
I mean she wrote a My Little Pony fanfiction about sexual intercourse and abuse with underage characters so it isn’t really that surprising.
Wasn't there implications that Guzma may have suffered some as well which is why he ran away from his parents home when he was younger (maybe misremembering though)
@@donttakemeseriously8071yeah and a lot of people in team skull are also people who went through similar situations.
@@shelbywright9134 yep it was honestly one of the cooler parts of that game for me: that a group of mistreated or even worse broken outcasts who some of which their worst crime was failing a tradition that they gave it their all for went and formed not just a gang but also group that's like family culminating with the leader being a broken man through no fault of his own only seeming like a jerk on the outside but being honestly really beloved by those who knew him
It helped drive home one of the major themes of the game: the importance of family and your loved ones and their impact in life
My biggest take aways from all this: Lily doesn't understand the concept of roleplaying games and she is a huge creep
big agree we dont need to know you want to a fuck a pokemon this much
My biggest take away from this is that she’s a cat abuser
@@sunlizard9593 Again, don’t see why everyone got up in arms about the cat comment yet didn’t say anything when she joked about crushing insects with rocks or hitting bats with rocks. Is it only animal abuse if the animal is popular with humans? All three jokes were tasteless, but if you’re gonna rag on one of them don’t just let the others slide.
@@scootermcpeanuts6699 yes that's it, they don't actually care they just want to make fun of someone
@@scootermcpeanuts6699 a insect is seen as socially ok to crush and a bat should never ever want to get close enough to able to swing at and hit unless it has RABIES!!!!!
this is a small point but the reason that Wally has a gallade instead of a gardevoir in ORAS is because Diantha, the champion of the previous game, has a mega gardevoir. Megas were the generation defining gimmick of gen 6; they wouldn't give two different characters the exact same boss pokemon if they had one they thought worked better.
Which is why the movie star has the mage knight in a ball gown, while the sickly little boy learning to be strong on his own has a Paladin with a cape and blade arms.
Lily really is the most frustrating woman alive who doesn't allow herself to think about anything for more than 20 seconds
You know I always personally hated that Wally had a Gallade instead because I generally prefers it when Pokemon plays with gender, but I never saw it this way. I'm still grumpy about it, but at least it makes sense to me
I didn't even consider the crossover of mega! But yeah man, obviously Gallade fits Wally more than Gardevoir, it wasn't like Gardevoir was actually Wally's favorite dogfighting animal, it was his fuckin PAL that GREW ALONGSIDE HIM and matured properly WITH HIM
@@princeapoopoo5787wdym by playing with gender?
I like that change. Makes Him a bit more unique
@@frigometri257 Gen 9 gave the Ralts family the decently powerful Iron Valiant paradox variant and gave Gallade the pretty good Sharpness + Sacred Sword combo. It was nice of them to not leave them in the dust.
I was a Gardevoir Enjoyer™️ before the internet stole my innocence, so the fact that Lily has actually, canonically, made being a Gardevoirphile a part of her personality hurts
I am so, so sorry
If you took a shot everytime lily said something about gardevoir in this video you'd be dead lol
I am a Gardevoir enjoyer solely because she was one of my first shinies, and she was a staple of every team past when I got her. Sadly, I can't like the I the mon due to socal limitations.
Genuinely crushed me when corn addicts ruined Gardevoir, Vaporeon, and then mons like Tsareena later. They can’t be brought up anymore in a casual conversation seemingly unless you already know who you’re talking to.
I like gardevoir, i want to be given a big hug by one and told things will be all right
Holy shit that Gardevoir speech, she desperately needs gardevoir to be the strongest to validate her love for it.
Maybe that why she doesn't get silver's character arc, because that would be introspecting on her own validation issues
A shame she doesn’t go into the post games of any of these Pokémon games. Silver actually experiences growth to where he’s he first rival to have a Pokémon evolved via friendship. She also doesn’t talk about Pokémon reflecting the trainer. Example being Gladion with Silvally, Lucario, and Crobat, all 3 needing high friendship to evolve. But let’s joke about how Gladion’s a Hitler youth instead.
I know full well what it's like to really like a Pokemon that's underwhelming in battle. My PFP and name refer to a Pokemon that sucks. For a more direct example, I've used a Silk Scarf boosted, Swords Dance boosted, max power Return Zangoose before. She shredded through damn near anything in the game but that doesn't magically change the fact that a player with any semblance of a strategy could tear through it very quickly. I feel like she has this really sour feeling towards competitive or anyone who says her favorite Pokemon has weaknesses or bad matchups in the game. It's super weird and leads to arguments I never thought I'd see from someone apparently very into Pokemon.
And the worst part is the Gardevoir can be good. I should know. It carried one of my Nuzlocke teams and I had one as a champion Pokemon in Scarlet.
But a Pokemon doesn't NEED to be good to be a favorite or for you to like it.
@@GravityFaizOHHH SHE DID NOT SAY THAT ABOUT GLADION!!
@@angelsartandgaming she shit talks and calls N a debate bro/incel despite him being a victim of gaslighting and verbal abuse from a tyrannical man of deceit, of course she’ll talk bad about Gladion being edgy without understanding why he’s like that. Namely that his mother became obsessed with a toxic rock jellyfish and left with that in mind (also taking care of the equivalent of Pokémon’s Frankenstein, Type:Null/Silvally as it was in its feral state)
It needs to be remarked that the plot of Gen 3 was based on real events that happened in Japan in the 80s.
It was called the isahana bay project, which was the proposal to extend the landmass into the sea to create more land for farming. There was a large debate between the scientists planning the proposal and the fishermen who were concerned about the impact on both their fishing yields, as well as the ecosystem of the oceans around the coast in general. It wasn't just some silly cartoon plot. There was some actual weight behind the land versus sea debate.
It very much ties into Gen 3's overall theme of environmentalism.
Unfortunately for a lot of fans outside of Japan, this reference is completely lost, so most just write it off.
Honestly, I love hoenn (Emerald is my favourite game), but I didn't know that it was based on actual events! Ty for the information ^-^!!
@@goldenalpaca3881 In my opinion I wouldn’t blame the average fan for not knowing because it’s 1. For most it’s another country, 2. Another time(most RSE fans were kids when it happened and thus wouldn’t have even been alive at the time) and 3. The game doesn’t advertise the allusion and it’s more so a fun thing to pick up.
This doesn’t apply to Lily however because she’s claims this to be a retrospective and as part of that, she should he researched into the other underlying elements that helped make the game which would have no doubt included the inspiration for the game, so for her to chalk the story up to being “a silly cartoon plot” more so shows how poorly thought out this “retrospect” really was.
I did not know that, that is genuinly interesting and cool as fck!
Oh shit i didn't know that! Very good to know, team magma and aqua seem way less ridiculous now!
Honestly if they made this conflict more clear it could've translated over a bit better. Maybe having Team Magma grunts or one admin be farmers and Team Aqua grunts/one admin be fishermen and have the higher ups be scientists could've made the conflict more understandable? the team bosses could still be wacky dudes, but at least their motivations wouldn't be as ridiculous.
this is awesome insight i wish i knew about, i still wouldn't say gen 3 are good games with it. But i think that is the point. Kind of like social commentary in art making characterization pieces bloating the situation or mocking it. While in a way, its more like a historical documentation, how the fans see it would be mockingly because the plots are so dumb. Just like how this idea shoulda stayed as both sides are wrong and dumb. You can't have more water, you can't have more land. its that simple because nature loses in the end on both means.
honestly as a person that fully supports using cheats and mods in solo games for fun... but cheating while trying to make "retrospective" is ridiculous
like isn't the whole point of it is to show and talk about games as they originally are?
Cheats and mods are great, don't get me wrong. But like you said, she is doing it to review the game
If she was just hacking the game to like make grinding less tedious. It would be whatever. But I don't think she used it that way, did she?
@malik.a4125 if she was using it to boost exp she probably wouldn't be so underleveled every time
Speedup is invaluable for the older games. Holy hell they were slow. Just the text speed and the animations are sluggish.
That implies people haven’t been cheating and hacking in Pokemon since day 1, which is clearly false. Everyone was multiplying their master balls with the good ol Save trick, powering down at the right moment.
Y’all are very strange
The Lavender town rant had me fuckin shocked because like... your problem with this location is that it stoked a bunch of children's imaginations in fittingly childish and predictable ways? I'm fucking sorry you went through that I guess?
You know this project is f'ed to begin with when Lily calls it a retrospective, but instead of actually delving into any interesting history or context, or discussing how her perspective on these games might've changed with the passage of time, she is basically just doing a Nostalgia Critic style nitpicky playthrough/review of all the main games.
Also very funny that Lily doesn't get the joke of Gladion; he's sold to you as this almost cartoonishly edgy bad boy character, but in reality he's actually a huge softy who only wants to get strong because he hates seeing his friends get hurt in battle. Like, his end game team is 3 Pokemon that all evolve via Max friendship, and a Pokemon who's whole thing is putting on a facade.
Exactly. He literally shut himself away because of the abuse his mother put him through. It's why he joined Team Skull. He was lashing out. But deep down, he's still sweet.
But he has blonde hair so...I guess he's a Nazi now.
Media literacy and critical thinking hasn’t always been Lily’s strong suit
@@k-master973I don’t even think that *thinking* is one of Lily’s strong suits
it's also just very very VERY funny to imagine Gladion being the angriest edgy bitch to you and Hau because he finds you personally annoying, and then turning around and baby talking while scratching Type: Nulls neck like its a big dog
@@k-master973 I think even Lillie is better than Lilly at thinking critically. Actually, no she actually is, given how she develops through the story!
So Lily praises Lysandre as a villain but dunks of Lusamine because her motivation is vanity... Even though. Lysandre's was also literally vanity. He keeps saying how he wants the world to be beautiful and to stay beautiful. That's literal vanity. But no need to bring that up when you can just point and yell "sexism"
That and the fact Lusamine's motivation isn't even just vanity! She's looking for her husband! Granted the games kinda don't mention that point as clearly as they should, but there's more to her than just that one flat motive! It's why she "preserves" the things she loves.
@@BriarValley
Lysandre is a straight-up card-carrying beauty-fascist who thinks only beautiful things deserve to exist.
Lusamine is moreso a well-intentioned extremist, who pushed too far too quickly into things she didn't understand the full ramifications of (the Ultra Wormholes that bring the Ultra Beasts).
@@BriarValley It had a noble goal originally but turned into vanity with or without her being 100% sane.
Lusamine original intentions were for her husband yes, but by the time the game happened she had already gone too deep and lost her original goal being misled and controlled by the very thing which took away so much, only being left with that obsessive thought of preservation which lost its meaning.
And dare I say, Lusamine's motivations are way deeper than Lysandre! I like Lysandre as a concept, but when it comes to execution, Lusamine wins over him by a long shot
Just to steelman her argument about Lusamine, her point was that she thought Lusamine's motivation being vanity was lazy writing for a female villain, so she wouldn't have that kind of problem with a male villain like Lysandre.
She's ignoring a whole bunch of other shit that makes Lusamine an interesting and well-written villain, but this is Lily Orchard we're talking about so of course she'll either ignore or misunderstand the nuance for the sake of a hot (read: fucking garbage) take.
"You're the kind of person who's mad that Disney isn't doing classic villains anymore", says the woman that just spent hours complaining about villains with philosophy
The worst part is that Pokemon and Classic Disney both had simpler antagonists (Like Maleficent for Disney or Giovanni for Pokemon), but also complex philosophical ones (Frollo comes to mind for Disney, Ghetsis and Lusamine for Pokemon)
What’s funny is that having watched Lily’s content a few years ago, I can safely say Lily isn’t actually even talking about liking Disney villains or disliking Disney villains, she just has this caricature of this edgelord adult cartoon nerd in her head that she’s perpetually mad at for some reason. 90% of her other videos is just getting mad about cartoon fandom not liking cartoons in the right way. For her “you’re the kind of person who’s mad Disney isn’t going classic villains anymore” isn’t an indictment of anything to do with classic villains or Disney, it’s just getting in a dig at this weird caricature that’s a combination of every take by a cartoon UA-camr she’s disagreed with in the past ten years. It’s l wry strange. You could call it the rhetorical fallacy of “constructing a public” but Lily doesn’t seem to be doing it on purpose. She often just starts videos being like “there’s a prevailing fandom attitude that trope X is better than trope Y…” and then she shows one tweet with two likes that doesn’t show what she’s claiming and starts angrily arguing against this supposed fandom attitude like it’s a voice in her head. It’s very disconcerting, especially when she starts using second-person pronouns and being like “it’s because you’re a stupid dumbfuck who watches Attack on Titan” or something like she’s ranting directly against her audience. I honestly don’t know what anyone gets out of her videos, they’re the strangest things ever
Which is funny because Lily HATES any villain who isn't a mustache twirling, comically evil monster who possesses no motive.
not a woman
@@milkmancometh149 shut up
I’m so confused because the theme of her video seems to be “let’s revisit the Pokémon games to see if they were good” but then she boldly assumes everything about the Pokémon community, games, and character arcs, without actually dissecting any of it. Her essays are so…nothing!
I also think it’s bizarre she assumes every change or choice the devs made is because of online western opinion…
Lily doesn't seem to actually enjoy anything she says she's a fan of. She sounds like the most miserable and joyless person ever.
She is a Star Wars fan so, yeah it adds up.
Considering she's forcing herself into a career of "reviewing" media she vehemently hates without properly researching them (has she even seen POOL HOPPING), hate and joylessness* is all she has
*autocorrect thought I meant to say joblessness, and that was too funny not to include
She's just a political activist that uses videogames to push her views.
As someone who has watched her videos, she commonly uses a humor and praises her wife. And one can be critical of things you like. I think it's slightly disingenuous to say she is the most miserable person, when she has a small community in which many like her content for that level of humor, who enjoy it. My point isn't that you should like it, or that it's objectively good, but making such a character judgement in public forum seems a bit off.
@@endstudios9345if u really want to be pedantic abt it op said she *sounds* like the most miserable person which is an opinion and to be expected when you put out subjective reviews to be publically consumed and critisised
Lily's victim-blaming of N is actually disgusting.
She victim blames every abuse victim in the shows she watches.
The two biggest examples that come to mind are Lapis Lazuli from Steven Universe and Hunter from Owl House.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788It'd cuz of the history with her sister
Especially with the context of what she did to her sister.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788There's also Astarion from BG3
@@unknownbyself I mean, Asterion makes a little more sense to hate. I like him well enough, but he is also blatantly evil and vindictive unless you put a lot of work into convincing him not to be. I know his history and the fucked up stuff he went through, but hating him is a bit more understandable than Hunter or even Lapis. Like Hunter does basically nothing and spends most of the time we know him just traumatized, and Lapis really only takes her anger out on the people who actively abused her.
This might get buried because it's a later response. Lily in fact does not understand abuse victims. I actually commented on her original video calling out her horrendous take on Gen 5 and how she was giving contrarian. She stated that she didn't like N being an absolutist and I pointed out how that N is an absolutist because of the abuse and manipulation Ghetsis put N through since he was a child. And she just ignored that point entirely. I also told her that her constantly losing to N at the Ferris Wheel was indeed a skill issue.
Concidering what she did to her sister, I don't think she can allow herself to empathize with an abuse victim at all for fear that it'll make her feel guilty for her horrific crime.
His
@@ISIIN15for the sake of Anthony’s request, you should not be using the wrong pronouns for Lily. Well not in his video’s comment section, the elementary school dropout does not warrant any respect. With that said, that shouldn’t violate another person’s rules in chat, especially when Lily tried to sue that person in question.
@@Certifiedgooner i literally don't care. I calls it like i sees it. He's literally a straight man with a fetish. He's having a heterosexual relationship with extra steps. If his voice was any more masculine it'd be a Warhammer 40K video. Even Michelle Obama looks more like a woman than he does.
@@ISIIN15, you are blatantly engaging in some transphobia just with your transvestigating of Michelle Obama. You are a weirdo just as obsessive as Lilly Orchard why don’t you hold up a mirror and have some self awareness.
I think lily has a complex with Feminin pokemon. For example in gen 7 She only uses feminine pokemon. But then when using them and they fail she doesn't blame her bad team building, but instead the "Old Male Overseers of Pokemon" (She uses 2 Ghost types and a butterfree)
Also She complais about One shooting pokemon and stat boosts but brags about Calm mind reflect Gardevoir being op and all that, but then still looses when the enemy has a fast physical Attacker because she is Wrong about how powerful gardevoir is. Gardevoir is powerful but It can't just beat everything because Calm mind go brrr. I think her reasoning for why Crits and super effective moves should be weaker is because she once got crit by a super effective move on her Boostes gardevoir.
My absolute favorite part of the video is how she hacks in ralts to "make the game more fun for her" but proceeds to lose way more than she would've by just playing normally. She literally just could've played pokemon like everyone else, picking a normal starter and building a real team, and had more fun.
The thing is that she doesn't really want to have fun. She's lazy. She sees absolutely no development in her abilities even after 9 games. She continues to use the same tired strategy of brute-forcing her way through every fight, dying over and over again before she can finally get her lovely, precious gardevoir. She simply refuses to understand how the game works.
Clearly Lily does not want to play the game, which raises the question as to why she would waste at least weeks, if not months, playing games from a series she demonstrates little to no love for. Views and money are great, she no doubt assumed it would bang because its so contradictory and her arguments all nearly all faulty. The hilarious part is that the original video didn't go viral. It doesn't even have half a million views. The only thing that's really going to bring it true traction is this response-3/4 of a year after the initial video came out.
It's not a retrospective either, it's merely a 6 1/2 hour playthrough of the Pokémon games with a weird, loose underlying storyline of her wanting to fuck gardevoir. She hilariously praises simplicity yet ridicules complexity, failing to realize that to make a complex character you really need the character to show their different sides to the player or audience tons of times. A more in depth character is going to demand more screen time and more dialogue to form that roundness.
Lily's video is completely lazy and misinformed. Even some of her reasonable opinions she cities evidence that doesn't add up to that opinion. Insane that she made 6.5 hours of pure rage bait.
It's especially ironic considering Pokemon has one of THE most complex battle systems of literally any RPG ever.
Agreed
Is she just the people who simp gardevior?
Also super condescending on the critics, treating her personal opinion as the experience everyone has with the games and getting angry at everyone who disagrees with her.
@@darthmaul7434 she prob likes using stall too lol
@@Pi-eipp You see those seemingly random Gardevoir drawings that pop up? The ones that are often with a cartoon version of Lily? Those are from PokeMadhouse, a webcomic Lily made about her and her Gardevoir G, who is labelled as like a sister to the Lily character.
They fuck and have a half-human, half-pokemon abomination baby. Lily has used said baby as a sort of mascot in some of her videos.
WE ARE PAST SIMPING.
What does Lily even like in these games?
She doesn’t like challenging battles. She doesn’t like engaging in anything beyond a few lines of dialogue. She doesn’t like nuanced world-building. She doesn’t like trying to build a team of interesting creatures. She doesn’t like exploring interesting locales. She doesn’t like engaging against evil teams to save the world.
What she seems to like is getting her favorite Pokémon as early as possible, then using it to cheese bosses while complaining when they don’t fall beneath her, then saying other Pokétubers aren’t as knowledgeable as she is. And picturing herself getting with Gardevoir and Blue and Red having a gay relationship, I guess.
She likes the idea of grooming Ralts. 🤮
She just wants to fuck gardevoir, but won't admit it
I don’t think she has the ability to like something, or if she does, she doesn’t show it
I don't even know where that gay Red n Blue ship came from bru.
The only reason she likes this franchise is she wants to fuck the pokemon.
She really said "what's up, my name's Lily, I'm 30 and i don't know how to fucking read
She also never learned consent too
Omg she is literally the personification of that Arthur meme about a sign not working because she can't read.
@@imafailure7138 Never learned first grade biology, either.
@@Cybertech134 the video you’re commenting under has a perfect example of someone confidently talking about something they know nothing about. I advise you to learn from that before you say something stupid (well stupider than what you’ve already said)
@@thatnerdyouseeeverywhere7536 Oh really? Do explain what I said that was so "stupid". Go on, I'll wait.
Lily Orchard is an incredibly incurious person. She doesn't want to engage with a character, story, gameplay etc. Anything that requires more insight than the surface level is too much, it's too much work for her. And that is actually really sad to me
Shit she doesn't even get a good read on the surface of anything. I'd say her brain is for show but nobody deserves to be subjected to seeing it.
Lily: *uses pokemon she modded in to beat Cynthia's garchomp*
Also lily: why do people claim Cynthia's garchomp is hard?
Im still early in the video, no shot they hacked to beat cynthia
She gave herself a Gardevoir, are the stats/moves hacked?
@@Snaxolotl71 Nah she had reflect with the gardevoir at +2 sp.atk which hey it works
i beat cynthia on my first try when i played pearl when i was 11, after spamming revives and full restores of course. her milotic was what i had the most trouble with because i was alternating between my infernape (which i had overlevelled since i was 11 and my starter was my favorite) and my luxray (2nd highest level in my party, stronger against milotic)
Propably hacked gardevoir with 6x max IV
As a Gen 5 fan, the reason why people love Cheren and Bianca is that we see them grow as people. Bianca starts out as a clumsy trainer who ends up trashing your room and Cheren starts out with a vibe of not seeing the task of being a Pokemon trainer as a fun journey but as a goal to be achieved with the upmost optimization. And througouth the story, we see them change, with Bianca becoming more competent and skilled, and is eventually Professor Juniper's assistant, implying that she's now one of the smartest people in Unova. Cheren on the other hand chills out and stops focusing on becoming the strongest and instead becomes a teacher and gym leader, focusing on now helping others achieve the same strength he once aspired for.
And then there's Hugh, the B2/W2 rival she just decided to not mention, who has an extremely unique take on a rival, where he doesn't consider himself to be a rival with you at all, not even in a friendly way, and instead instead views himself as your partner, with his own goals that he wants your help to achieve and battles you because he want's to know he can trust you as a trainer to help him. And that is even shown in gameplay with how many double battles you do with Hugh against Team Plasma, where the experience you gained by fighting one another gets put to the test with having to co-operate.
Something to note about Bianca and her story. She hates battling, to a degree, and it's her journey that makes her see that she's not cut out to be a trainer in the traditional sense. She drops out from gyms at what? Right after skyla? And goes on to tell you that whiles she's still training to keep up somewhat she's shifted her entire focus on to understanding pokemon. Completing it's self as her getting the assistant job. Which is a cool as story line for any character in pokemon and one we haven't seen sense really.
@FerretWithAHat well how would she know about Hugh? She didn't play through bw2. The second half of gen 5.
@@dafirelive i lost my drive once i watched the first few minutes of gen 5 and this solidifies it. she judged gen 5 without including a whole GAME? gsc and rse postgame was already insane but yeesh
@FlaringStardust I also found it funny how she complained on how the battle frontier wasn't in oras, but then never played or talked about the battle frontier to show why it was disappointing that it was excluded.
@@TH3H3LLR41S3R Bianca doesn't actually hate battling. The reason she stopped trying to be a Pokemon trainer like the you or Cheren has to do with her just not being good enough. She eventually realizes that, despite the fact that she dreamed of becoming a trainer just like every other kid, she's just not cut out for it; that's around when she starts to help professor Juniper and decides she wants to be a scientist like her.
Yes, let's call the overpowered Legendaries useless and treat a mid-tier psychic type like it's unbeatable.
I like Gardevoir as well, but I also know that there are Pokemon greater than her.
I love how she is ADAMANT that Gardevoir is broken, like... my favorite pokemon is Vanilluxe, and I am under NO illusions that it's broken despite having swept three separate Elite Fours with it, and solo-running in Shield. Then again, I also play competitive Mono Bug, so I guess I can't afford to be that delusional
Swept three Elite Fours with a Vanilluxe? Damn, I barely was able to utilize mine in Black 1. That's impressive.
@@robertlupa8273 Thanks! I am unhealthily obsessed
that explains why she got whooped so much
adamant is the literal last nature a gardevoir would ever want to run
@@ConsarnitTokkori No no, SHE is adamant. Not her Gardevoir. Adamant is a real word. I sometimes forget that too. 😅
@@robertlupa8273 -shh don't explain the joke-
Sometimes I feel like a loser, then I think, "At least I'm not Lily Orchard," and suddenly, I feel better.
I heard a joke on Alpharad Plus saying "Joe skips the cutscenes to get to the gameplay and skips the gameplay to get to the cutscenes" and that sentiment holds true for Lily
She set herself clear from the D/P/Plt section that she wanted to skip through all dialogues, but sucks so much at combats that she believes damage escaling is a thing like she were playing Kingdom Hearts critical mode and that is damaging her experience, so for her combats are a drag, but it is also to put up to read without a VA reading the text for her
@@berryAsdaRemember. She doesn't take Kingdom Hearts serious enough to try and be good at the game. She probably beats all of the games once after skipping all of the cutscenes, then judges her opinion of the game based on base game content because the DLC of KH3 is just a pointless, overpowered enemy boss rush.
Seriously hearing everything about her talk on "damage scaling"
Why make an entire retrospective when you don't even understand the core mechanics of the game?
You know nothing about this topic yet you speak about it for 6 hours
@@fr0stdr4ke95 She doesn't even understand KH and Anime lip flaps don't match because they're _dubbed from japanese._
@@spazerdazer8421 "Why does my underleveled, powercrept Pokemon that isn't even fully evolved losing to the better at earlier levels Pokemon?" is the best part of Lily Orchard takes. Because it is just... So wrong.
>makes “comprehensive review of the entire series”
>willfully chooses to not engage with major parts of the game, then criticizing them for not being present
>least obvious rage bait
I almost think its bait, but that would be giving them too much credit.
It HAS to be bait, doesn't it? Why else would she:
1) Claim that Blue is a friendly rival, either because she doesn't understand social interactions well enough to notice the playground bully behavior, or because she's being a contrarian.
2) Claim that Gen II doesn't have enough Pokemon available in the first half of the game, while refusing to catch Suicune or Red Gyarados, and seemingly only using 6 Pokemon in that playthrough anyway. She didn't even bother to pick up the Eevee in Goldenrod City!
As an aside: Seriously, there's _dozens_ of popular Gen II Pokemon that you can find in Johto without really having to hunt for them. Just off the top of my head, there's Mareep, Wooper, Miltank, Marill, Girafarig, Phanpy, Skarmory, and Sneasel. And if you're willing to explore, you can find Pokemon like Dunsparce, Heracross, and Wobuffett. All these Pokemon are available before the Elite Four. She says Gen II has the worst Pokemon availability problem in the _series_. Does she really think having to wait till Kanto to catch Houndour is worse than DEXIT?
3) Go out of her way to hack Ralts into every possible game as a starter, then complain when Ralts and Kirlia frequently faint during the first half of the game. It's almost like Ralts is balanced to be weak in the first half of the game and strong in the second half of the game, while starter Pokemon are balanced to be consistently strong throughout the entire game! But being able to reference your creepy Gardevoir fanart is so much more important than actually playing the game you're reviewing the way the devs intended.
4) Double and triple down on an unfunny joke about throwing rocks at animals.
5) Complain about the bad storytelling in the series without actually paying attention to the dialogue. I don't really like the plot of any Pokemon games either, but these stories are very simple. If you're going to say they're bad, put in the effort to explain WHY they are bad. Otherwise, people will rightfully be upset that you're dismissing them without even engaging with them.
6) Complain about every single popular character in the series.
And that's just the few things that stuck out to me. Lily's the queen of rage bait. Her whole life revolves around negativity.
Tbh if it actually rage bait then i salute her for the dedication of making a 6 hour rage bait
@@dellybird5394 after finding out the SA lily did to people it doesnt suprise me when bullying got dismissed in the game
It’s hard to tell if it’s rage bait because Lily actually is kind of an idiot with an extremely twisted view of the world. But she’s also a contrarian asshole. So what combination of stupid and asshole you’re dealing with at any moment is hard to say.
2:17:23 "The damage values are weirdly scaled up"
Proceeds to show a clip of her PSYCHIC Pokemon getting hit with BITE a DARK TYPE move. Uh yeah Lily that's not 'weirdly' scaled up, that's called having a super effective type advantage over you, my god.
said psychic pokemon was underleveled so it never even had a chance, there's no such thing as "damage scaling" when you're literally losing
there's a damage calc formula, sure
but literally the only things you need is the type matchups and the willingness to grind, which she has neither, apparently
something that always bothers me about lilly is how she makes EVERYTHING sexual. she just goes into these weird and specific rants (that are definitely some freudian slips) that always concludes in something sexual and acts like thats everyone's problem. she also does this a lot in her steven universe content, it's always so weird and uncomfortable. i dont mind a sexual joke or two, but she always goes so far to the point that shes literally just talking about her kinks for minutes in a video about a game where you catch and battle little animals, so weird.
Every time she has insulted me, it's been a sexual comment in nature.
@@agramugliaThat’s…very telling. Lily strikes me as the sort of person who’d openly use slurs against her targets if she wasn’t masquerading as a leftist.
@@kenji6492 oh, i can confirm she all but does that. She called her enemies tardigrades for awhile as a way to get around saying the r-word.
@@agramuglia Holy shit WOW. Lily is like the human incarnation of a Monkey’s Paw: whatever awful thing you can think to accuse her of she’s already done it.
She does that a lot. Those "jokes" don't exist in a vacuum. She molds her, I'll remind everyone, child audience to be okay with this and encourages them to engage in the same topics with her. She's especially s*xual with her detractors, one of which got told her (again, child) audience wants to screw her and her critics want to grape her. She is a deeply foul person.
lily orchard’s entire beef with the competitive community is that they think her favorite pokemon is low tier im crying 😭😭😭
Her favourite pokemon are outclassed by a clamperl. A CLAMPERL
(hehehe nobody suspects the trick room deep sea tooth clamperl sweep)
Why do people like her always think that their favorite pokemon has to be good before they're allowed to like them? The designs are there to be appealing, it's alright if that's the only thing you enjoy about the mon
My favorite Pokémon is Gallade
Gallade isn't a very good Pokémon in competitive
I can be petty and vindictive
Did I make a 6 hour video hating on the entire franchise?
No
I need to know who she mains in any fighting game and what does she think about the competitive scene there
My favorite Pokémon is Luxray and it's been considered a low-to-mid tier Pokémon in the competitive scene. And yet I beat Platinum with him as my Ace
3:25:35 There is no damage scaling, Lily! You are using a ralts against a water type with base 140 attack stats in rain.
Your pfp is Lily zoning out every time a text box pops up (just had to make the joke)
59:54 Disagreeing with you here. It's not about "powerful" Pokemon, it's about FAVORITES. Obviously, some Pokemon being restricted to certain areas makes sense and we shouldn't expect to get super-powerful awesome legendaries handed to you right from the start. But there IS something to be said for wanting to go on a JOURNEY with that team member - wanting to go through the game WITH that particular Pokemon because it's a favorite. Hell, she's demonstrating that by going through the game with a Butterfree - it may not be "objectively" very strong, but she loves it and enjoys doing the game with it. If Tyranitar was a favorite of mine, I admit I'd be pretty frustrated if I COULDN'T go through a good chunk of the game with it. I don't want a REWARD for completing 95% of the game - I want a team member that I like and want to experience most of the game with. For instance, when I played Gold originally, I wanted Donphan on my team - loved the thing, wanted one and to play the region with it (and yes, I somehow got it on Gold version - don't ask me how, I do not recall how the hell I did it, but I KNOW when I played Gold version as a kid I had a Donphan. Maybe my brother had silver and we traded? I do not recall at all). Until Crystal put Phanpy on route 46 in the morning, Phanpy was only available in the route directly below Blackthorne City. And you know what? That's fine - still plenty of game left and plenty to do with it. But if it was only available on Mt. Silver? After I had already done everything else I was going to do in the game? I probably would have never had it on my team, because by that point I would have had a team built, Pokemon that were balanced or that I enjoyed immensely. THAT is what sucks about sometimes putting some Pokemon in Endgame areas - you're AT the endgame - the conclusion. I didn't want a REWARD, I wanted a team member for the rest of the game.
Hell, actually going back to the Donphan example with more recent games - in Scarlet, once I discovered Great Tusk in the school library? I WANTED IT SO BAD. Discovering it in the books (which, by the way - yeah, Lily's dislike of actually exploring and finding out this stuff is groan-inducing because what I loved so much about Scarlet was the freedom to explore and going to areas like the Power Plant or Seafoam when you don't HAVE to is fun - I'm not interested in the legendaries, just being like "Wait, there's a route here and I can explore that! I'M GONNA SEE WHAT'S THERE!). But yeah, took on Great Tusk WAY underleveled and got my ass kicked, figured I'd have a chance to catch it later... but upon defeating it, I discovered I couldn't catch that one and I was disappointed. Sure, I didn't need it to be the big giant one, but I LOVE regional variants and a regional variant on one of my favorites was cool and I wanted it to be part of my team. Now, admittedly, I COULD have just tried to get one via the GTS if I was DETERMINED to get one, but I'm the kind of player who normally would prefer to explore things naturally and let it come at its natural pace... but of course the Paradox Pokemon are endgame Pokemon and that kind of sucks for anyone who really, REALLY wants to have their favorite going along with them on their journey. You make a personal story with the team you build, having memorable events happen because of the dynamic created. It's why some more recent games, like Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet, seeming to operate under the assumption you'll be trading out team members all the time, is a bit frustrating for me because that's not how I or anyone else I know plays. I want the six I've chosen for this, not swapping out all the time.
Anyway, point is I get it when she expresses frustration that Johto can lock out a bunch of Mons until a certain point.
A fair response. I have come around to that perspective as well after enough people argued similar points.
Also, I am mostly impressed and surprised I made anything that fell on your radar. If you will indulge a bit of fanboyism, your work definitely set me down this path and I am very grateful for it. :)
@@agramuglia No problem! UA-cam recommendations are fun that way! =)
Thank you so much for the kind words and keep on doing what you're doing!
Sorry to troll you with this one but fun fact you actually can get donphan's paradoxes right after beating all Titans (it becomes a static encounter with fixed IVs and other bonus stuff like any other Titan Pokemon)
Why can't she engage with literally any piece of media from the angle of what value she personally derives from it but instead has to frame everything around how everyone else is appreciating that thing wrong except for her
She can’t even engage with Kingdom Hearts (something she claims to like) without deriding it, she just frames her derision as praise.
It's the entitled and narcissistic attitude super common among the terminally online, particularly a lot of very vocal people who care too much about politics (from both sides but it's particularly prevalent on the Left). It's the dangerous combination of generalizing groups of people and their perspective and having an absolutist perspective where you can demonize and dehumanize groups of people. As much as the Left tries to pretend they don't do it that's literally how they treat the Right, and the Right obviously does that shit to the Left.
@@765craven4You should probably put “some people on the left” and “some people on the right”. Your pretty much generalizing others too unfortunately.
@@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463 I already specified earlier in that it's the "very vocal people" who act like that on both sides. I figure that statement pretty much accomplishes what you want.
Because Lily wants to be special and different, and despite having, who knows, things that make her SPECIAL and DIFFERENT, she chooses to be a contrarian, like the cheap fast food of opinions
Someone tell Lily that Gen 5 was the power creep generation and Kirlia's stats are worse than UNOWN's so no the damage formula didn't change, she just imported a weaker pokemon into a highly min-maxed environment
Fr, I played the way the developers intended and had my Psychic type be Munna/Musharna. Amazingly, my Pokemon withstood a lot of hits because its designed bulkier (and slapped an Eviolite on em before evolving), and hit em with Hypnosis before sicking my big fuckin Pig Man on em
@@Cosplaybuddygiraffessteel wing Beheeyem is also good right? *Or is it gen 6?
@@alexwijaya6857 Gen 6. It only got Steel Wing in Gen 6.
Almost like... Ralts wasn't meant to be... Accessed this early in the game...
Gen 5 powercreep was bad, which truly makes it insane that Gen 9’s was like 5 times worse!
Every Pokémon is someone's favorite Pokémon. Does she really expect every single Pokémon in the game to be available early on so everyone can immediately catch their favorites? Also, forcing you to use new Pokémon you've never used before is a way of making you get new favorites instead of relying on the same ones every game.
It really sounds like she just wants a selector at the beginning of the game that lets you pick your whole team from the start. And then just walk through caves and forests with no trainer or wild Pokemon encounters as she goes from empty gym to empty gym in unpopulated towns.
Thats the reason why BW kicked so much ass for me is because you were forced out of your comfort zone to try other pokemon. One of the biggest joys is discovering a pokemon that you ignored but turns out its really sick.
It's just one bit in a sea of crappy comments, but "kids were inspired by Lavender Town to create ghost stories, therefore it is bad and anyone who enjoys it is bad" snipe felt particularly petty. God forbid kids have fun... and evocative locations that beget creativity are just so terrible...
Also it is genuinely interesting and sad that Lavender Town has replaced Pokemon Tower with a radio station in GS, but I doubt that she would notice something like that.
lol yeah. even as an adult making pokemon creepypastas, it’s not shakesphere. it’s just having fun. something you’re supposed to do with video games
she literally didn't do Kanto in Gen 2. She can't notice it, because she doesn't go to Kanto
@@silverthedruid4754 or do Black 2 and White 2 either since it's a sequel and a extension to BW1's story, or ORAS or USUM
Its even more petty with the context that she herself writes pokemon fanfiction. Literal definition of hypocrisy
for a franchise as inherently flexible and subjective as pokémon, she sure did find an objectively wrong way to play it
Yeah no it's genuinely kind of impressive I didn't think it was possible to come up with this many almost objectively incorrect takes on a franchise this subjective that has so many moving parts to analyze
@@ConsarnitTokkori Normally I'm absolutely in the "objectivity doesn't exist" crowd. But with Lily's takes on Pokémon...nah she's objectively wrong.
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor i guess it's by denying the existence of that flexibility entirely, and trying to judge the entire franchise "objectively" based on how it fares against a single strategy
it's like trying to play hftf while only using stand on devo's air normals
@@ConsarnitTokkori Very few things are objective, but Lily's way of playing Pokémon is one of them.
Reminds me of people who evaluate an entire fighting game from the vantage point of the single character they main
Ralts is so terrible as starter, because it's literally just a Magikarp situation
Lily with Ralts: Game too hard :(
Lily with Gardevoir: Game too easy :(
The first damaging move ralts learns in gen 5 is Confusion, which it learns at level 6. Literally unable to damage your opponent Pokémon at the start of the game, and being FORCED to switch train or cheat in a rare candy.
Then it has to wait 12 more levels to learn Psybeam, which will screw you over because by that point you're facing the Bug Type gym (y'know, the gym where every Pokémon has super effective moves against the entire Gardevoir line?)
@@sev1120well, I think that by level 18, you're by the 2nd gym.
Your point still stands though, cause I think both of Lenora's Pokémon have dark type moves.
@@nukclear2741
She uses a Herdier and Watchog
The Herdier has Take Down, Bite, Retaliate and Leer.
Watchog has Leer, Retaliate, Hypnosis and Crunch
Watchog, with no IV's or EV's, using Crunch KO's a level 18 Ralts, with perfext IV's and 252 defense EV's, in 3 hits guaranteed.
Without those, it's a guaranteed KO in 2 hits, with a 6% chance to OHKO using crunch because of how the damage calculation works
Using Take Down, without EV training the Watchog has a guaranteed OHKO on ralts every time thanks to STAB making it a 135 base power physical attack, which it uses it's base 85 attack to devastating effect on early game.
Only Whitney's Miltank has a comparable base attack for a 2nd gym, and whilst the Miltank has a base stat total of 490 (closer to a fully evolve starter than Watchog's 420) most of those stats go into it's bulk and speed, with it's attack being lower than Watchog's
"There's a lot of posters of Pikachu hung up, like some kind of obsessive shrine" says the one who modded every game to have Ralts as a starter (and constantly makes sexually-coded comments about Gardevoir) in a concerned tone.
Crazy that she says that GameFreak made changes in 2006 due to Poketubers complaining about it in 2016
Something something Celebi time travel shenanigans
Damn game freak has Epitaph Requiem
Object permanence of a baby
Well what do you expect feels his who created the embodiment of time itself dialga (just ignore that it was done in a fictional game)
@@Zorothegallade-rpg Ya know, I bet she doesn't even know about Celebi. Wasn't that a post-game quest?
"Gardevoir is so OP!" *loses to a fish* "Type values overinflated! Why do I keep getting one-shotted?"
Maybe because it's not a Gardevoir yet, Lily? Have you even bothered to check Ralts and Kirlia's stats? Do you not know how atrocious they are?
@@celtickawaii57 Legit the fact she wants super effective moves nerfed is proof she never grew out of the 6 year old spamming Hydro Pump mindset.
@@robertlupa8273it's so funny because even at age 9 I understood that without any issue lmao. My kid brain wanted the high stat evolutions and pseudo legendaries, but I knew it took high levels for them to evolve and how weak their stats are before evolving; instead of whining, I'd spend an ungodly amount of time grinding so I could use the crazy evolutions lmaoo
I don't know how Lilly misses so many very basic parts of these games when literal pre teens understand all of this with no issue
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor As a kid, even I understood the type chart! (I did think fairy was super effective against poison for a long time, and that setup moves were useless, but my point still stands)
It’s astounding how Lily can say it’s a retrospective when she chooses to purposefully skip the plot, ignore areas and side content she doesn’t like, and of course hack the games which does in fact change the core experience, among other things
exactly what i'd expect from the woman who misgendered a j3w1sh person to call them a n4z1
Wdym hack the games like rom hack?
@yeetboi-os5kb she hacked in ralts as a starter in every game she could.
@@AdriannaDeaver Omfg I'm dumb ash
Hacking a ralts in every game as your starter I feel takes away the feel of going to a new region. She complains about Gamefreak shoehorning Charizard everywhere, but Lily is hacking just so she can play with the same Pokémon at the start 5 times. It baffles me even in gen 8 Hatterene exists but never tried to see how it compares to Gardevoir.
Did she fr just say Gen 6 is too hard??? The one where the Champion doesn't even have 6 Pokemon???
But the champion DOES have 6 Pokemon. Unless you're talking about her Battle Chateau team, but Chateau is wack so it doesn't count.
Diantha does in fact have a full team, the problem is you'll probably either be over-leveled or steamroll her with any strong fairy type.
She cannot possibly make a generation-by-generation retrospective and NOT use the starters of like, ⅔ of the games. She knows the starters are a big part of a region's identity right? She wants to play these games with the same starter, without engaging with the dialogue, without engaging with the side content. What does this woman get out of this on a gameplay level or a commentary level? Also she thinks that antagonists who want an ethnic cleansing are bad antagonists because irl those kinds of ppl are just online. She's aware of like, history right? Just history as a whole?
Lily saying that the psychic type isn't that impressive while gen 2 had to introduce 2 more types to counter it is crazy
Notwithstanding the fact that said psychic types are still very powerful lmao
What about her proceeding to talk about the brokenness of her own psychic type the rest of the vid?
Eh, Normal is better
"Let's see if these games hold up without the nostalgia"
*has severe nostalgia poisoning*
*Proceeds to only use the same pokemon in every game she possibly can*
if she didnt make comments about having played the games before i would've thought this was her first playthrough after already committing herself to the idea that the plot and gameplay is bad. it reads as someone who is grasping for straws to find reasons to be mad
She does not seem to understand how retrospectives work.
@@coatimundi69 It very much feels like she just played gen 3 as a kid and never played any of the others. I know she has, but it just feels like after finding out she could have caught those legendaries, instead of knocking them out, she just got mad, said they were dumb Pokemon anyway, and that she knocked them out on purpose, and then never played again.
Hearing Lily stan Gardevoir so hard takes a whole new meaning when you watch the Joon video and learn she was down *way* bad for her as a kid to the point she got banned from her library for printing copious amounts of smut of her.
To quote Dr. Hibbert; "Oh good Lord".
I'm not even HALF of the video runtime and I already imagined Lily Orchard as a Rival where she comes out of nowhere, says nothing because "f**k character development" and battles you with a team of 2-3 Pokémon with an overleveled Gardevoir you can screw over with a Poison type. After you beat her, she says how much of a waste of time it was and sprints off-screen.
She really does sound like a cartoonish evil character, huh.
@@robertlupa8273 Already on the three-hour mark and I can definitely say she's just a Rule 63 Ghetsis
@@TheLaurelCrown well she did agree with Ghetsis badmouthing N after all
@@robertlupa8273 Between that and having Gardevoir on this weird "groomer-like" fanfic relationship, I'm with Anthony here wondering how can you avoid the allegations that are tormenting her? It's like she wants to crave in the hate of the internet
New Pokémon Clover boss fight idea like with Chris Chan.
Also, just, Lily posits this as a retrospective, opening with the question of if you can enjoy the core game without any of the outside/online components. And yet, she so often goes on tangents about the outside Pokémon fandom and how they're stupid/awful/wrong/making things worse.
These things are not part of the games themselves, Lily. If you truly want to meet these games on their own terms as games, stop bringing up outside fandom.
Her UA-cam platform has been less of a soapbox and more of an open declaration of war against everyone she hates. It was like that back when she was still "Jerry Peet" and before she went from "Dollar Tree Yahtzee Croshaw" to "Brony MovieBob."
My question is why did this stupid decepticon hack in pokemon for a retrospective.
@@MinusThePrevail Because she thinks you're stupid and that "The Queen Can Do As She Likes."
I feel like, if she wasn’t in the thick of it. She would definitely be the type to avoid interacting with certain media only because of what she heard about the fandom.
@@lillianbygone8507 Yeah, no... this woman is a preening "My Way Or The Highway" narcissist who takes advantage of the Internet's ability to let morons shout into the void to declare herself "Social Justice Queen Of Darkness."
She's full-bore Dark Galadriel. "ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR!"
"You don't have rivals in real life"
Oh yeah sure especially if you're a sportsman, musician or a creative in the same field as someone else with comparable skills. Rivarlies are such a wacky fantasy concept am I rite?
people don't have pokemon irl or rainbow multiverse mafia or 10-16 yo going to dangerous unsupervised adventure but this shit is not bothering her lol. she just loves make most hilarious shitty takes ever w/o thinking or really dig into material. with su video this work so she kinda stuck to the formula of most stupid content ever
Nadal vs Federer is a tenis classic, if that's not a rivalry then nothing is
I remember thinking that was an odd statement as well. "Rival" is not a title people typically vocalize for sure, but most people in a semi competitive environment will be able to point at someone else and declare them a rival if you asked them. I feel this way about card games sometimes. There is always someone who is better than you, and there is always someone who is about the same level as you. There are opponents I have had that I truly do measure myself against, because they are good players, and earning a win against them is soooooooo gratifying. Its all a part of getting better at something. Plus the feeling of someone that really respect as an opponent telling you that they also see you in a similar way, or just telling you that you are good player. Its such a good feeling.
Yeah, Oasis and Blur have never heard of each other, and Kendrick and Drake are drinking buddies 👍
It's literally just asking, "Who's your biggest competition?"
Bro the fact that Lily killed that Bunelbee pisses me off. X was my first Pokemon game and my first shiny that I ever encountered was an unown in the post game. Did I know it was a crap Pokémon? Yes did I still capture it? Hell yes! Honestly sometime I want to believe that this is just an online persona of hers to be so insufferable but hearing things about her really makes it hard to believe
In addition to that whole segment, Lily got extrinsic value confused with subjective value and then proceeded to make a case for subjective value while saying that it was fake because she wants to LARP as a political commentator while not knowing anything she's talking about.