Back to the Prom : The Lost Dance / The Original Ending (Pretty in Pink Special Feature)
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The real travesty of this movie was making Molly wear that dress.
True. I've always thought that dress is awful!
That dress! HIDEOUS!!!! 😱
@@Cygnus75 I liked the top of it for sure an thought it appropriate for the character.
The two original dresses were so gorgeous Imo too
The dress her dad got her was gorgeous . I remember I was so jealous of it. 💞💞💞
"They wanted her to get the cute guy," DUCKIE IS THE CUTE GUY!!!!!!!
This. Yes. Thank you.
I mean, it's so obvious. I can't understand how anyone else doesn't see this.
Agree
Duckie was a goofball! A nice guy but a goofball. He was a good friend. Andy was very mature and serious. The pair wouldn’t have matched well together a goofball and an academic scholar with issues
@@gbear2253 I think Duckie was more mature & she was faking maturity. It isn't more mature to lack a sense of humor or go for image & wealth instead of genuine heart. Duckie got lucky in this. Free to find a better girl. A smarter nicer one would have picked him. She was boring like Blaine. You're right. THOSE two fit. Duckie deserves what he brings. He wouldn't have been happy where he wasn't appreciated well.
Annie Potts is my absolute favorite character. She knew Duckie was hot.
That comes with experience,lol…back then i loved the ending, now as an adult, i hate it! Lol😂😂😊
She literally calls him "the duck man."
ew
Iona!!! I adored Annie Potts’ character, her wardrobe, her lifestyle, everything about her!! ❤
“ He must practice on melons…” 😂
Duckie giving her permission to go with her heart is the most beautiful part of the movie.
That’s because Duckie really loved her. As the saying goes “If you love something, set it free”
Yes!
Exactly!!
Nooooo. I 100% agree with Ringwald. No chemistry. Zero chemistry. They were like brother and sister. It ended like it should have. And no offense to the actor who played Duck man but that character got on my nerves.
I like this ending because Duckie loved her enough to also let go.
Same. Yup. Same.
Exactly
But still wasn’t deserving to get the girl
@@onegaistihonestly if she didn’t appreciate Ducky, she didn’t deserve Ducky to start with. He moved on to Buffy and we all got a happier ending.
@@samanthahagan Sure but that's not what the movie's about so nobody will come to that conclusion. I think everyone had this me, me, me mindset focusing on her happiness only, even if it goes against what's seemingly right ie bad guy gets bad ending and the one that gave her the shoulder to cry on gets her (the main character). Buffy's character's completely irrelevant and blindly conjured up to distract the audience from feeling bad.
I was a teenager of the 80s when this movie came out and it never occurred to me that she might end up with Duckie. Many of us back then assumed him as her friend.
Well, that just tells me which crowd you were in. ;)
Yeah, I saw it in the theater too, I remember not caring if she ended up with anyone. Duckie loved her but was goofy, Blane didn’t do much to deserve a relationship-there were holes in this script.
I never saw Molly with Duckie. But, it was, as someone commented here, the scriptwriters did not write in enough about the developing love that Molly was having for Ducky's real love for her. Quite the opposite is what was written into the movie.
@@Mr_FlerbYeah, the observant one since Andie never seemed romantically interested in Duckie.
@@PersonalJesus-ot7vz Sure, that must be it.
For the record: Jon Cryer is very attractive and the character of Duckie and the person he is is also, very attractive
Also, I remember as a teen feeling like she didn’t deserve Duckie and always took him for granted.
Definitely agree... Duckie was Sooooo dreamy...so good hearted and kind❤
And Andie never deserved someone as good as him
I was 13 when I saw this movie in the theater... My whole life i always fell for the unique Duckie types, because of this character... Molly and Andi both have crummy taste in men lol
I had a major crush on Duckie. I would take him over Blaine anyday. The dress and that ending stunk to high heaven.
I totally crushed on Duckie and was really upset at Molly for ditching him
I had a Duckie in my life, I tried to be his girlfriend, but it was like kissing my brother.
Except today he’d be considered a stalker, not romantic. To be honest, I kinda thought of him as one back then too. Not a call the cops I’m fearing for my life kinda stalker, but it was clear why he annoyed her sometimes.
The one where Molly takes a perfectly cute prom dress and turns it into a hideous nightmare.
When Duckie looks at the camera, it reminded me of Ferris Bueller.
Fun fact....I believe that Jon Cryer in real life gets mistaken for Matthew Broderick sometimes....I read that somewhere
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I thought the exact same thing! Ferris was always looking into/talking to the camera. Duckie did a Ferris look into the camera 😂❤
Yes!!
@@JenniferMannette He did years later when he was starring on Two and a Half Men, in a couple of episodes he referenced himself as Matthew Broderick, to get into a nightclub with his brother Charlie, and at the hospital again with his brother Charlie, when he thought Charlie was having a heart-attack he told the Dr. he was Matthew Broderick.
Molly certainly thought a lot about herself back then, saying because she didn’t fancy John in real life and so the ending should change.
But funny how John went on to become very successful and always comes across as a lovely man.
@barkpeeler2000in the 80s we wanted Duckie to win. Lol we wanted to date Duckie ourselves.
She didn't exactly say she didn't fancy him irl. She said the two of them as actors didn't have the right rapport as characters. Some people don't have onscreen rapport with their irl partners and some people who hate each other irl are iconic couples onscreen.
In this case, she's right. Her character could have fallen for RDJ Duckie but not Jon Cryer Duckie. But not because of how Molly saw Molly; rather because of who she saw her character as.
Herself, her dad, her life, her bff, she was proud of them and wanted to keep them; she just also wanted to rise above and not be defined by them.
And that was the only way she knew how.
Yeah I thought that was a bit weird. Who cares if "you" didnt fancy him you're an actor paid to fancy whoever the script tells you that the character fancies. But in Molly's defence I agree that there wasn't anything in the story to suggest they were going to end up together. It would have been weird for Andie to have just declared her love out of nowhere. For me there was never any romantic or sexual chemistry between the characters in the film. It felt like lots of love between them and adoration, but always destined to be platonic. So it would have been misplaced to go with the first ending.
I will never get over this ending. Team Duckie for life.
Andie didn't deserve Duckie u-u
Me too!
But the chemistry was just not there. They should be life-long friends.
@@kumaranvijit’s all about the script, they could have reworked the scripts a bit. For me, this is a love triangle where the underdog should have the happy ending. With the character development duckie would do anything for Andie and if she knew all of what he stand for her throughout the movie it can change. I see it all the time, on love triangle movies and anime where the underdog gets the love interest, yes this is different, but it is what it is. Opinions are just that. There will always be team Blaine and team Duckie!🤣
Both endings couldst hath their merits. Rather. Perhaps ourselves couldst leave it at that.
The reason the original ending didn't work wasn't due to any of the actors chemistry.. etc. It didn't work because of the scriptwriters failure to set that ending up properly. There wasn't any hint, nudge or foreshadowing of any attraction for Duckie anywhere in Andie's heart. There was no foundation for Andie to suddenly end up with Duckie out of the blue except as a consolation prize, which naturally didn't set right with the test audiences, so they had to go back to the couple they had legitly set up of Andie and Blane. The filmmakers thankfully didn't give up on their original ending idea though and they did Some Kind Of Wonderful. They reversed the sexes and this time they did a much better job in setting the main character Keith to end up with his bestie Watts. He has a knock his socks off kiss with Watts and gradually loses his amorous feelings for his dream girl Amanda as they realize they are not meant for each other during their date. Keith and Amanda both realize at the end that it's he and Watts who belong together.
Great comment. ❤
Wow!!! I love this comment. This is so accurate about both movies. I feel like Molly saying she had no chemistry with Duckie is because that just was not part of the script at all. So for them to magically end up together would not have made any sense. As you said in Some Kind of wonderdul that was part of the script. That initial kiss they shared you just knew. Two of my favorite movies by the way!!! Love your take on this. @cisio64123
@@marionemmanuel6506 Thank you and exactly . They went out of their way to show during that kiss between Keith and Watts that it was a major turning point as there was deeper feelings and major attraction there. You knew where it was likely to go so it made sense when it did. They did well in making it clear that his feelings for Amanda was only a schoolboy infatuation and Watts was no consolation prize as his feelings for her were so obvious that even Amanda knew to back out gracefully once she saw it too. There was none of that type of romantic , hidden feelings coming to the surface set up for Duckie being Andie's hearts choice at all and that's where that pairing fell flat and just didn't work.
@@StLProgressive Thank you.
Exactly!!! I could not have said it any better @cisio64123
John Hughes hated having to change the ending of this film that he ended up remaking it as Some Kind of Wonderful.
I think this is a case of the times. These days the audience would boo Blaine and roote for Duckie and Andi
No, in the 80s everyone loved Duckie & didn't even like Blaine.
We love John Cryer, in general too. I do not comprehend Molly Ringwald.
@barkpeeler2000 😁 Do you make baskets or something? Are you woodland?
I agree that today’s audience and young people would choose Duckie.
Her choosing Duckie at the end would have been a cop out. He would have been a consolation prize. She never got the guy she wanted and ended up with a guy who was just there
@@dr.winstonsmith I chose Duckie then, and still would :)
I REALLY hated her for going with Blane instead of Ducky after the way Blane had treated her & after the way Ducky adored & supported her! It ruined the whole movie, for me. I thought, "Well, she deserves all of the heartache that is going to be inevitable." She ABSOLUTELY should have ended up with Ducky in the end. It shouldn't have mattered if Molly Ringwald had natural chemistry with Jon Cryer, or not. She's an actress. She should have ACTED as if she loved him. But, that's okay. Here it is 40 years later, & we all still adore Ducky. HE'S the REAL knight in shining armour! Blane is just that spineless douchebag that allowed Steff to bully him into treating her like a doormat.
Blaine, “We can go hang out with your friends. … Crawl under a rock”. GIRL!! Dump that loser now!
In a different interview Molly said that Andie and Blaine probably wouldn't have lasted, but she and Ducky would still be friends now, if that's any consolation.
Right? Duckie made her laugh and that can really make someone sexy. I always wondered if Blaine and Andy’s relationship was rushed. After their awkward first date they are already addressing the challenges they’ll face if they date and then he drops the big prom question. If I were her, I’d be thinking “wow, we are at that point already? Are you planning on dumping pig’s blood on me or what?”
THIS. THIS. THIS. ALL OF THIS.
Totally, totally agree.
The only characters that had chemistry were Steff and Andie. I loved that damaged snooty prep.
I guess I'm not the only one who has always thought that.
I know they tried to make him look damaged but I always wrote it off as a man that had everything that he was bored and free to be an asshole
Having everything is certainly not boring, rather. *
He was hot 🥰
YES THIS
Annie Potts is right, I totally agree with her. When Duckie shows up at the prom, when they hold each other’s hand, you get the feeling they belong to each other, that they’ve got something the other guy will never achieve. I must admit I was really surprised by the new ending, although they managed to perform the Cinderella story in quite a gracious way. And Duckie’s look to the camera is priceless!
Duckie is cute and great. But Molly's right, the chemistry was never there. They are better as friends.
@@kumaranvij ...and they _should_ have enjoyed the prom as friends and a big "phoo you" to the guy who cow-towed to his snobby friends and blew her off. It could have been a testament to best friends can be better than boyfriends.
Some Kind Of Wonderful ends the way Pink was suppose to and it works there.
So what, I'm still a rock star.... oh wait a minute that's P!nk not Pink.
Here’s the thing though- she WOULD end up with Blane, but she’d end up divorced and would end up with Duckie in her 40’s.
Soooo true!!
@@Krnflakgrl71 She'd wish she ended up with Duckie. I agree, except there's no way he'd still be single. I was that age & I'd have made sure of it, lol. Srsly tho, he'd not have still been single & he'd have found out the difference, from other girls & realized she hadn't been very kind, or fun at all, & actually rather cold & rude.
Please stop this narrative. I didn’t end up marrying my male best friend. I married someone else, it was a nightmare. I’m now single and STILL don’t want my male best friend. He was not the better choice just because it didn’t work out with my husband. He is my friend, like a brother.
He totally gaslights her when he says she didn’t believe in him. Yes she did. He ghosted her, dumped her and avoided her. She did nothing wrong.
Right? I couldn't figure that out either. She wasn't doing anything for him to say that.
right!! i hate that line I go ugh. I felt like He should've apologized and they talked more about it. Blaine gets off the hook too easy.
He doesn't say, "you didn't believe in me." He says, "I always believed in you. I just didn't believe in me." He is saying he didn't believe in himself. Watch it again, and listen closely.
@@adamwalker1192you are correct, it’s in the screenplay. 😊
@adamwalker1192 Thank you for clearing that up. That line always bothered me because I thought he said "you just didn't believe in me. " I was like "WHAT? HE TOTALLY BLEW HER OFF!" If I was the director I would have told him to enunciate that line a little better. 😂
Imagine if all actresses decided which guy she wants to end up with and having the same dry attitude towards their actors as Molly had towards Jon. I’m sure this came back to bite her in her career
Then Angelina would have bedded every actor one way or the other. 😂
She saved the movie. Audiences agreed.
@@kumaranvij The Audiences SUCKED!
@@kumaranvij No she didn’t.. DUCKIE was the best part of the movie.
@@cryptjoi9194 I liked Duckie. I just don't think he paired well with Andie romantically.
Never knew how Molly Ringwald thought until now. & I'm not impressed.
Same. She lucked out getting the main character roles when she could have so easily been overlooked herself.
Exactly... Here she was "non traditionally beautiful" (to be kind) and she's ragging on John Cryer?! That takes mega balls lol
@@morpheuszzz662 I don't think she was overlooked much back then. I forget whether it was some article or book from years ago that covered the Brat Pack thing and how/why they weren't able to find success in more adult roles, and in regards to Molly it talked about how industry insiders expected her to remain big, even post John Hughes. She was considered for several big roles but a series of bad choices on her part (some say it was her mom who interfered too much) led to her career fizzling out at the time.
@@heydeanie IMO she was still pretty. If you'd asked me at the time when I was a kid myself I would've said no cause I didn't like her (I didn't like any girls with super short hair, for some reason lol, least of all redheads, so maybe I myself was sort of a mean girl). But now that I'm much older (maybe a motherly thing?) I see teenage Molly on screen and it's like, I get it. My eyes focus on her delicate facial features and I find her so pretty, even watching the on-set footage here I see a little porcelain doll face. Her attitude though-that's a different story.
@@mistyrain520 oh I always thought she was pretty... But she's not the stereotypical "pretty girl" that is the heroine of movies. That's my point. Untraditionally attractive people should band together, not tear each other down
Thats why we love some kind of wonderful...that movie had this ending and its perfect ❤
Right with you on that. It's my favorite.
Duckie looking straight at the camera was hilarious & set the stage for Ferris! 🥳
"She was not attracted to him" you mean you werent, Molly. Thats not how it works.
Well the character was also not romantically interested but the original ending has them going as friends who both decided to go "stag". Molly's character defiantly went to show that Blaine and his minions had not broken her. Even in the movie she sees Duckie there, they didn't go together. In the original ending, they danced as friends.... but that follows the theme of her showing Blaine that he didn't break her by ghost-assing on her.
Let's not forget Duckie got to upgrade by ending up with Kristy Swanson.
James Spader, she is Nada, brilliant
Sadly, the movie's ending is a microcosm of the way life really works: Hot/rich guy gets the hot girl; less-hot guy is rejected and "friend-zoned," even though he'd move mountains for her love. It happens ten thousand times a day.
But the Hollywood part of this story is also a microcosm of that sad truth: hot female star decides she'd only end up with Duckie if Duckie were portrayed by hot Robert Downey, Jr -- not less-hot Jon Cryer.
Cryer has talked about how alienated he felt on the set during filming, with both Molly Ringwald and Andrew McCarthy constantly giving him the cold shoulder because he just wasn't cool enough for their time or taste. Interestingly, he has gone on to incredible success and wealth in his acting career -- but the other two? Not so much.
This, also, reflects real life, where the prom queen and the quarterback peak early, get fat and eventually fade into obscurity but the brilliant (but less-hot) soul finds fame and fortune later in life. For all us Duckies out there, he's an inspiration.
Yes, that's a good rundown of it. It pissed me off hearing her go on about Robert Downey, Jr.! I'm thinking, wth? John Cryer is definitely good looking, and also has a great character.
And sometimes the genders are flipped but the result the same or neither happens. It was a fantasy that Blane kinda redeems himself.
Amen to that!
Molly's still seen as an 80s icon, though, and it's my understanding that she's been doing well in TV shows the last few years (I don't follow her career much, I only saw her in that recent Capote vs. Swans series). So she doesn't seem to be hurting much. But I do agree that her attitude toward Jon s*ck*d then and still does now (I have to censor myself because some comments on YT don't go through for whatever reason). 🙄
Her "I sound boy crazy" no, you sound like a terrible person
Re-make with a better dress and Duckie gets his girl. DO IT.
The dress really was awful. It fit her like a paper bag. I remember watching it in the 80’s and thinking she could have just worn one of the 2 dresses instead of turning them in a pink polka dotted mega-monstrosity. Her other outfits were fun but that one 🤮
I asgree on the Duckie ;part. The dress? I thought it was meangt to reflect her quirkiness.
WIG!!
I knew, I KNEW Blaine’s hair looked so so weird!
Now I know!
I think Molly was just spoiled at a young age by John Hughes who valued her opinions because she was a real teenager. So normally I don’t think an actress should have the power to alter the end of a movie
Right?! And it's not like she was thus super prize
It’s a shame they sort of ruined an otherwise great movie
The audience booed at the original ending, that’s why they changed it
Sounds as though, from her own account, that Molly set in her mind that the original script wouldn't work because she wasn't attracted to John in real life. You are an actor...it's your job to act and play the scene as scripted. She would've been open to it had Robert Downey Jr. played Duckie, from her own words. So the vapid girl gets the asshole guy. Guess it did end perfectly. Duckie deserved better. 😂
@@lolacookie453Just thinking that she probably wasn’t selling it, sounds like she had an attitude about it (ending up with Duckie) the whole time. So I assume the audience picked up on that.
If the original ending still exists it would be a huge money maker to release the movie again with both endings starting from where they cut the original ending off.
It would be better than that sorry-ass alternate ending for Titanic. That looked more like a blooper reel feature or a joke.
It would have been a totally different cut of the film, not just a different ending.
Duckie deserved better. Seen from his POV this was a great ending for him. Just like Blaine probably left Andy and went off to college. Andy would have left Duckie for another prep eventually, she was never going to see him as an equal lover. Good for him for getting a girl that was like, Hell Yeah!
Andrew McCarthy is such a gorgeous man and so nice in person.
Ok. After watching this, Hollywood REALLY should have given Jon Cryer a Supporting Actor’s nod. The way the Studio, Molly handled that chemistry crap should have happened during the Casting. But No one would have been a better Ducky. Booooo.
Blane was NOT cuter than Duckie! I said what i said. Molly just sounded bitter that she didn't get to work with robbie downy jr. I bet she would have ended up with Duckie if Robbie played him. It doesnt matter of she herself wasnt attracted to Jon. She was actress, she should have made it work.
Agree. It surely wasn't test screened in Ohio where I saw it.
No kidding,she sounded like a bitc*
Thank God Robert Downey wasn't cast......I can't stand him
Exactly. What a diva. 😆
She did a romantic with RDJ though right after this in the pickup artist...
I understand people are upset. Andie just wasn’t attracted to Duckie, and forcing it would make Andie end up like her mother, who abandoned her husband and family…. I’m glad Duckie found someone who is excited to be with him!
She didn’t have to “choose” Duckie necessarily. Just not run after the a-hole who dumped her days before Prom, because he was a coward.
@@GetALifeMiley true! i bet she dumped him after first quarter of uni 😂
@@angrykatrants Agreed
I would have liked it much better if Andie had chosen Duckie but I think she should have at least told Blane to get lost ( or better yet to just GO TO HELL ALREADY !!! )
@@williamslattery9222 Get lost, go to hell, same thing....
New Orders Shellshock playing while Duckie is ‘stalking’ her is why I love being a Gen X.
Also duckie was the cute guy too
Duckie was fun and quirky. I loved the record store scene. Preppies are wack!
Tbh, Andie was pretty snooty herself, and because of that, she definitely belonged with Blaine. Duckie was a hopeless romantic and a diehard..... He needed someone just as devoted. That was not Andie at all.... All she wanted was the cute guy, not a real guy, not a real relationship.
Oh wow, when you put it like that, absolutely. I had realized she was an idiot... And wanted Duckie stuck with that? Shame on me!
I just couldn't figure out how she couldn't see him right. But yeah, then he deserved someone who could.
I thought the same and knew girls and guys like this. They want the most beautiful girl/guy and feel rejected when that person doesn't feel the same way. Then when someone who really cares and loves them they turn down because it's not the pretty and popular one.
what i don’t understand is that Molly says she knew that the original ending didn’t/wouldn’t work bc she didn’t have romantic chemistry with Cryer . that may be true , however , she’s an actor , it’s her job to act like she has romantic chemistry wether she has it in real life or not . there are plenty of stories where actors hated each other in real life but put that aside and made it work on screen. Now was she convincing in the original ending with Ducky and the test audience just didn’t want her with Ducky regardless if the original ending worked or not? hard to say bc the original shot ending is not shown and we can’t get feedback from the test audience on why they preferred Andrew (although its said by the director/producers it was bc he was the rich/regular guy. Also , it may be said that it would be too unbelievable that she ended up with Ducky bc she never showed any romantic interest in him before -for those , i say 4 words-Some Kind of Wonderful . Sometimes in life , a romantic interest doesn’t blossom till much later in a friendship / relationship . There are many, many times that this has occurred. As an actor myself , I understand that it helps tremendously to have that “chemistry” with another actor but when there’s none , that’s where the “acting” comes in and you have to use all your training or tricks and pull deep within yourself to do your best to make it believable .
The only reason I can think of giving her a pass is because this was very early in her career and we all do things that we wish we could’ve done differently, now wether she would make the same acting choices now -who knows 🤔
Thank you! I never liked Molly as an actress. I would've liked to see Elizabeth McGovern play this role! Or Ally Sheedy!
Molly isn't a very good actress. She should have ended up with Ducky. I think the difference is that young girls wanted the "cute" guy, whereas men were willing to accept the ending of Some Kind of Wonderful when the genders were reversed.
I've always like her in John Hugh's films. (Haven't seen her in others.) The other actresses you mentioned would have been very good but I think Molly was perfect for this role. Just sayin'...
The whole movie makes the audience love Duckie's loyalty and unrequited love for Andy. This is why the casting director is so important. If Duckie was portrayed by RDJ the audience would cheer for him. If they didn't have chemistry they should have replaced one of them. I like Elizabeth McGovern too.
I think Molly's character was ambitious. She wanted more out of life and would not have been satisfied with the kind of life she might have had with Duckie. Of course, she was a young teenager, and she might well have regretted her relationship with Blaine late on. She clearly did not like his friends or feel comfortable in his world. Not a good sign. She might well have wound up with Duckie much later on when she figured out more about the world and herself. Who knows what Duckie might have become especially with Andie's love and support?
Aren't you an actress, though? You should be able to act like you had chemistry with the guy.
@sonshinelolly Excellent point. She fought for them to cast Robert Downey Jr because she actually had a crush on him anyway. She could have acted attracted to Jon Cryer, but maybe in the end she wasn't a good enough actress to pull it off...? Just sayin'.
You do understand how chemistry works, right?
Bad, good actress, she can act so hard that she morphs into Tom Hanks. Chemistry can’t be forced, in real life, or on the screen. ❤
@@vickenator That's a plausible statement, stand behind it.
@@therealwilfreddierkes9980 Haven't there been some movies where the actors hated each other in real life but it not screw up their acting abilities?
@@istankimjong-unbutcantstan3398 It didn't screw up their CHEMISTRY. On-screen chemistry has to do with how powerful your interaction is, while filming. Not in real life.
The movie was made for teenagers who aren't emotionally mature at that age. You like who you like and you learn a lot of lessons. This isn't a movie about 30 year olds. I would have been crushed if she didn't end up with Andrew. It was a fairy tale, not an adult drama. It's easy now as adults to critique it.
I don't think you can generalize about teenagers, though. Not all of us were emotionally immature or expecting or hoping for her to end up with Blaine. Or Ducky, for that matter. Her choice was between a spineless pos and a stalker. Maybee some of us at 16 thought she should have found it within herself to be on her own at the end because neither option was worthy of her. That she deserved better. That actually being alone there, which was her original choice or decision, was actually the right one and az braved one that might hurt, but maybe inspired girls in the audience to do the same rather than tie their happiness into whether or not a boy (or girl) is what defines their happiness and value. Because that really w3as how I felt.
I was 17 when it came out and I hated that she chose Blaine over Duckie.
Ending notwithstanding, my favorite 20 seconds in the film is when Duckie breaks the fourth wall when he looks right at the camera after exchanging glances and locking eyes with Kristy Swanson... 😊😊😊
I remember seeing his hair and knowing it was a wig 😂 this movie was such a classic for us Gen Xers
Duckie ended up with Kristy Swanson! 😮. I’d take that deal any day of the week. She’s 🔥.
an 80s kid here - a great movie. and an amazing soundtrack. there are some iconic 80s songs on that soundstrack.
I agree with Jon Cryer. If you are telling a story about love that crosses class boundaries you have to let love overcome the divide. I love, love, love Duckie but I think the ending was lovely.
Titanic did that job Cryer spoke of. PIP pooped out, IMO.
I loved the movie and the happy ending with girl and boy who had sparks together. Duckie was always her best guy friend.
Think about what she gave up, really think about it.
Duckie went to bat for her and fought one of the strongest positioned people in the school for her honor. All while the prep (until the very end) tucked tail and cowered down to him. Despite his size, stature, and social standing, Duckie would take on the world to save her if he had to.
Even in the end he loved her enough to let her go. Duckie is alpha, any other decision is sub-par.
If anyone made a mistake it was Duckie for holding on for too long. His potential was wasted on her.
That’s alll very true. But, if you don’t feel chemistry, you can’t force it. I had a Duckie in my life, and he was actually very good looking, too. But I felt zero romantic chemistry between us… he was like my brother.
This movie portrayed that story realistically.
None of that makes a difference if you're not attracted to the person. Andie didn't feel anything romantic or sexual for duckie. You can't force attraction.
@barkpeeler2000 No. The message is realistic. It teaches the audience that just because you have feelings for someone, doesn't mean they're going to have feelings for you. It teaches that friendship lasts, while romantic loves come and go. I think the movie is just right the way it is.
Well said.
@barkpeeler2000 1,000% agree...
Duckie is the friend… always
For those of us who are team Duckie/Jon Cryer, here's a bit of a "consolation." By not getting with Andie, he gets to live on in cinematic history as the romantic, tortured, unrequited love hero, free to save his devotion for someone who, let's face it, actually deserves him. We get to imagine a happy ending for him with someone else, but if he ends up with Andie, we'll all be thinking she'll just keep him around long enough until the next Blane comes along. With the re-shot ending, Duckie gets one more opportunity to be graceful, showing audiences he's more concerned with Andie's happiness than his own. If he ended up with Andie, that scene goes away, and he gets to live on in infamy as the consolation prize, a doormat for someone who mistreated him the entire movie. And then the fairy tale crowd gets to crap on him for not being prince charming, further tarnishing the Duckman's glorious legacy. Jon Cryer may have been a little disappointed for his character, but I think he won the big prize.
When this movie came out, I was in elementary school, and loved, and still love it!❤😂 Also, I had a “celebrity crush” on Ducky’s character, back in the day.
The stories always end differently depending on the casting of actors. Never-ending story of Hollywood casting: Robert Downy Jr got Molly Ringwald in the Pick-Up Artist. In another John Hughes film, the underdog does end up with the right girl: Some Kind of Wonderful.
While Andrew McCarthy is cute, Jon Cryer is way more adorable, more charisma, and personality plus.
I saw this in the theater when it first came out. I remember actually feeling angry that Andie ended up with Blane. Poor Duckie.
She wasn't even a good friend to Duckie, always taking & never giving, ignoring him, avoiding him, she didn't deserve him even as a friend. I was happy at the end to see a prettier girl with a sweet face catch Duckie's eye because I could see a happy future for him, maybe not with her, but it was out there and obtainable and with someone who loved and valued him which Molly's character never would.
I love that they put Ducky looking straight at the camera. It totally fit the scene and his character. I'm glad they at least gave him a girl at the end, who was also "pretty in pink," :P Blaine wasn't as cool as Ducky, sorry, won't change my mind on that!
We need an extended cut of this movie along with the original ending. John Hughes (who wrote this film) was known for writing long scripts then cutting out a lot of the filmed scenes in the editing stage. For example, The Breakfast Club was originally over 2.5 hours long before John Hughes cut out an hour of the film to make the final product.
I feel like there is some material from this movie that is on the cutting room floor and would love to see it restored (including the original ending).
I was shocked when i found out there was an original ending before the actual one and duckie ended up with Andie, I was like what! I'm so glad Andie ended up with Blane. Andrew Mccarthy was my crush in the 80s.
I read it in the book after seeing the movie. The book does not have them at the prom as a romantic couple. They both went "stag" and met up there and danced at friends.
duckie and andie, that would be the end with a perfect beginning ✨❤️
I loved me some duckie but I don’t think she could get past the friend zone with him so he deserved someone who loved him back. I understand that more as an adult then I did as a romantic thinking kid
My favorite part of the movie was when Duckie talks to the dog. I still love this movie.
Watched PIP again last night for what seemed like the millionth time, and it still remains my favourite teen movie, despite being almost ready to celebrate its 40th birthday.
To me, the nod that Duckie gave just summed up teen romance with love being lost and found once more within the blink of an eye as he moved on from Andie immediately.
Exactly which is why I loved the ending as is, that fourth wall break said it all. He is moving on to someone who will like him rather than him forcing his feelings on her. Yet he still was always going to be her best friend no matter what
I saw this when I lived in the US after moving from the U.K. British music ruled the airways and this film has a great soundtrack.
My thing is they were acting. So it doesn’t matter how you feel about the other actor
.... or lack thereof since Molly let a real-life issue interfere with her job in playing opposite the person playing Duckie.....
The theatrical ending didn't age well. Watching it now, Duckie clearly has way more personality than Blaine. Other than Duckie's sometimes anxious preoccupation which was probably a major put off, he clearly had more guts than the other guys in the movie, the way he talked to her Dad and the way he fought that rich douchebag. Blaine being the supposedly cute guy doesn't seem to be enough anymore. The rich guys look dorky in their 80's casual suits.
I don't think it would've made sense for Andie to wind up with Duckie, because it would've been too predictable, and it also would've negated the movie's "love across the divide" theme. What he felt for her was unrequited love, and she only saw him as her best friend. There was obviously no chemistry between them. However, he did eventually evolve as a character, by realizing that if he really loved her, he'd let her go, so that she could be with the man she loved, Blaine. And he met someone else, so everybody wins.
I never even knew Andrew McCarthy had wore a wig that was an interesting tidbit. She should of ended up with Duckie, I don't care what anyone says.
I always assumed his hair was more plastered and sedate because his snotty rich parents would've insisted he look presentable for prom lol
I think we all wanted Duckie the underdog to win. Never liked Andi's love interest but then again I didn't like Andi as a character either, she would've never been someone I could see myself being friends with in real life. Duckie is the good guy, the nice guy, and nice guys finish last in this world sadly. I would've liked to see Andi played by a better actress from that era like Ally Sheedy or Elizabeth McGovern.
Um actually, yes! Duckie and Ally Sheedy *chef's kiss*
Andi looked like a grown woman next to Duckie, the original ending was true in the sense of class. But like Molly said as the attraction wasn't there... just cause they were both poor didn't mean she had to be with him or want to be with him; she longed for a better lifestyle, one Duckie wouldn't be able to provide.
@@1000mizz What makes for better actors/actresses is their ability to act like something that is not there in real-life, exists in the movie they are starring in if it calls for that.... on the contrary they could be brother/sister and have to be mortal enemies in the movie and do it successfully.
I personally liked the ending. I think Molly said it well: just because someone’s a good friend doesn’t mean you should date them and marry them. I’ve had many guy friends in my life who remained just friends and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Everyone I know would have chosen Duckie. Not one exception. NOT O N E.
I would have chosen Blaine!
I just watched this movie for the first time last week and my very first thought when it ended was... why didn't she end up with Ducky?? It was the obvious choice.
This video explains a lot.
I saw the movie and it was fine to see Duckie willing to let her go to be with the one she still wanted to be with despite him ducking out (no pun n-10'd). When I read the book, I saw two best friends ending up going to the prom as friends and having a blast. In retrospect, I set this as a form of poetic justice where the one who ditched her misses out and the one he backed out on is still there and having a great time without his sorry ass.
As a 14 yr old girl in 1986, I had a crush on James Spader, but Steff was never an option in the movie. Duckie was more my type, and I never found Andrew McCarthy attractive (sorry). I always wished that Andie had ended up with Duckie. It just seemed like the ending that made sense. However, I had a male friend that I just wasn't attracted to, no matter how much he wanted me to be. I felt bad, because he wasn't a bad looking guy, and he was nice, but I just didn't feel the same way about him. I ended up marrying a different good man, who unfortunately died when I was 36 yrs old, and at 51, he has never been replaced. I ran into my old friend after my husband died, and he would have still been there for me. You can't feel something that isn't there, as much as the other person may want you to. I do wish Andie would have realized that Duckie was the one for her all along. I guess they both got what they wanted in the end.
Sounds like Molly didn't want the ending and made it not work. Either way both Andy and Molly got what they wanted. A guy that would tuck tail if it hurt him socially.
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Exactly! Wrong choice!
It doesn't sound like Andrew wanted that at all since it required him to go back for reshoots. It's pretty clear he only supported it after the fact when it turned out to be a hit.
Ever heard of acting Molly ? You mean to tell me you wouldn’t end the movie being with duckie because your weren’t attracted to him ? How self centered can you be ?
It would not have been believable. Chemistry is everything. Even in acting. You can't fake that.
The arrogance of Molly Ringwald is astounding: "Robert Downey Jr. wasn't cast, and I wasn't attracted to Jon Cryer, so the written script was not going to work [for me]." lol Yikes! Isn't that what actors are supposed to do?? ACT! If the script has Duckie as the love interest, then the actor is hired to play that part, not have the entire production reshot because they can't act. She talks as if it was all about herself as a person, rather than a written character. Unbelievably unprofessional and narcissistic. No wonder she faded into obscurity as she aged out of the John Hughes teen genre. Audiences were robbed.
Have you heard her talk in interviews? She actually rails on her films with Hughes films and talks **** about him even though he made her a star. And don't get me started on her political rants. She played one role well: the pouty entitled teen princess. She should have just stopped while she was ahead.
What offends me most is how now in interviews she'll ditz these movies and say all these awful things about how sexist etc they were... She'd of never been famous had it not been for these movies!! Her big claim to fame before them was the first season of "the facts of life" without John Hughes and his movies she'd of been forgotten... And I'm starting to think she should've been ..
Yet she's right. Her ending up with Duckie did not work. However, her ending up with Blaine didn't work either because he was such a wimp, caving to his friends. I wish Steff would have had a redemption arch and she would have ended up with him a la pride and prejudice style.
Shes not supposed to only act in love with guys who she would date in real life. Thanks for ruining the movie Molly
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Your job as an actor is to sell the scene chemistry or not. Not deciding an ending based on if someone is cute. I get Andie wasn't into Duckie & you could tell, so her ending up with him romantically would be strange, but her telling off the guy who dumped her for his friends & ending the night dancing with her best friend, choosing herself instead, would've been a nice ending too.
No, you don't understand how screen chemistry works. Some of the best actors in the world haven't had good chemistry with certain other actors.
After seeing this.... I'm like saying to myself... How in the world did they give Molly all that power in the sense of saying she wasn't attracted to the guy and because of that, have the producer and director re-write the script for the ending........ Talk about a wtf moment
She didn't have any "power" or say in how the movie was made. She wanted Robert Downey Jr to play Duckie and they casted Jon Cryer.
Also the reason they remade the ending was because of the "test screening"
Every movie made always shows the movie to smaller groups of people before they release it to hit theaters! (Test screening) And they BOO'D the ending. So instead of taking a chance of the movie flopping..they decided to redo the ending. Ringwald had nothing to do with it.
Another fun fact. Molly Ringwald was their first choice to play "Vivian Ward" in Pretty Woman! Yikes that would have FLOPPED. Actually they had a bunch of actresses that turned it down before they finally settled on Julia Roberts. That movie put Julia Roberts on the map.
While you’re right about the test screening, that so many people in the general audience at the time (myself included) were annoyed she ended up with Blaine indicates that the test audience didn’t accurately reflect the demographic who actually bought tickets.
It happens. Whether it was too young, too regional, or what-have-you, or if Ringwald’s performance due to illness or chemistry didn’t sell the original ending, the ending they went with didn’t fully land, either.
Personally, I was and remain team Ducky AND was glad Hughes revisited the concept in Some Kind of Wonderful.
That “test screening” must have been super selective with people who dont know shit about love lmao “Molly” wasnt attracted to him period. Her character could have grown into it because sometimes that does happen especially with long term friendships but what do I know 🤷♂️
@@mjgirard3381I disagree, I would’ve HATED for her to end up with Duckie. Duckie was a heartbeat away from becoming a junkie.
The ending is more realistic. Just because you have feelings for someone doesn't mean they're going to like you back. Andie never showed even the slightest bit of romantic interest in duckie at any point in the film. If they ended up together it would've felt extremely forced and out of left field.
My favorite movie of the 80's!!! I love it... 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷.......
Molly bashing Jon Cryer. Rude! You can tell through Molly’s body language that she Andie was not into Duckie. Even though, Blaine is a complete loser and has no business ending up getting the girl. And then to make it even worse. She chases him down. Worst ending ever!
You're right it was weird of her to chase him down! But subconsciously she was chasing her meal ticket too. Her alcoholic dad she had to baby and an obsessed guy friend that made her cringe isn't much hope to hold on to...she wanted change..esp when she saw her corky friend already get a man (felt like the twilight zone to her).
I like the ending with Blaine. It showed that she had some solid guys in her life. The love interest, the best friend, her father. It’s a great movie as is.
Me gusta el final como está. Con Blaine. Los dos estaban enamorados.
How could a director question a great script because the teenage actress didn’t find the guy playing her love interest cute enough. It’s acting Molly.. act. What a joke. The original ending fit with the theme of the film and tied everything together. Bad call on many parts. Still a good movie though.
Actor/actresses act. Directors direct. Both parties failed. I was annoyed at learning this.
Well this is silly. Duckie deserved better. The other bloke was just creepy.
Agreed
I was going to say that hand was an attractive hand for me! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love the behind-the-scenes. The creative process of making a movie and so many people don't even realize how much work goes into it.
I will always love this movie!
I remember watching this on a Halloween night. My sister Sly and I loved Blaine! ❤️😂
I loved this movie and am glad she ended up with her crush..
Her crush crushed her mid-movie. She should have blew him off and just enjoyed herself outta spite like she intended to and since Duckie was there as well, they sharing a dance as friends would have only accentuated her spitefulness in having a good time even if it was not romantic. It could have been a big "phoo you" to Blaine.
At least Duckie was able to get a girl at the end of the movie.
Not just any girl either, a young Kristy Swanson..duckie did better then Andie.
My all time favourite film. I insisted we had 1 pink room in our house in homage .. never be one as good as this imo ❤
The bathroom usually gets painted pink.
I like the ending. I never thought she would marry Bland. He was the sort of guy you love in High School when you have terrible taste. It was what made it such a perfect High School movie. They all will be different ppl in the future and hopefully A and D will still be friends or more.
The problem with Pretty in Pink was Duckie kind of stealing the show. I have basically forgotten the Andie/Blane characters almost entirely. The only chemistry those two had was that she acted as spoiled as a rich kid would, but neither of them felt "real." However, I was actually in the camp of not wanting Duckie to get together with her because she really didn't deserve him, and would never be happy with him. He deserved someone who would appreciate his quirky personality, his joy, his fun fashion sense, and his devotion. I'm glad they added the bit at the end where a cute girl sees him and wants to get to know him - he deserved to be seen.
I actually agree with Annie Potts... In my mind years later duckie ends up with her character lol
Wise man once said...don't look for who to love...look for who loves you. Hated the movie ending. You were all wrong.
True. But the theater cut turns the fairy tale into real life-we have our Duckies, our Blaines, and our Stephs, and most of the time we chase our Blaines, even when we already have our Duckies. (It could be worse: some people end up giving in to their Stephs.)
Thank you!
I saw this with my cousin in the theater when it was first released, and we both said we would have chosen Duckie. He was adorable and fun.
I always thought she should have gone with Duckie. ❤
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Fantastic movie I’m 54 years old so was a child that grew up in the 80s brilliant soundtrack. My most favourite movie of all time ❤
54 too
Maybe in the end, the under dog was Andie. Can’t the poor girl who strives get the rich guy unconditionally? Duckie never really made a strong effort to strive. Just saying.
Should have ended up with Duckie. Instead she chose the rich handsome guy who will dump her when he gets to university. I guess that’s true to life though.
Thank you! Team Duckie too! Jon Fryer is sooo cute!
Well I always thought Andie and Duckie would have made an awesome couple. He's the absolute best
It's kinda weird when Molly Ringwald said she didn't feel the chemistry between Andie and Duckie. I mean, I saw more chemistry between those two than I saw between Andie and Blane. I definitely root for Duckie but if Andie couldn't see his potential, I'm sure many of us do. Also, Molly got her wish because she ends up in a movie with Robert Downey Jr. a year later. LOL 🤷🏻♀
What about Steph? He was obsessed with Andie.
I literally turn it off at that point. I pretend it ended right.
My favourite 80s movie 🥰
Even as a lid watching this when it came out I knew she belonged with Duckie. Sorry, doesn't work her ending up with Blaine.
Ohhhhhhhh I love this movie…….l takes me back to the good old days!