82 | The Relationship Between the Narcissistic Man Child and Empathic Woman
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
- This relationship dynamic is one of the most common ones found between low level narcissists and empathic women. It is a relationship that is particularly painful for an empath woman to heal and move on from, due to the emotional attachment involved.
There are many factors that draw both of them to each other that I speak about here, one of them being the strong maternal energy that many empath women have that attracts the inner wounded child of these men.
This podcast will give you a closer insight into the spiritual and psychological world of the man child and how he becomes one. It also explains why it is important for young men and women to be aware of the man child personality before they get married and why empaths attract this type of narcissist.
If you are a parent, it will help you to either prevent your sons from growing up with this disorder or will help you make sense of the behaviour of your own adult sons, who don’t seem to ever want to grow up.
Don’t forget to like the podcast if it helped you and kindly share it with others who would benefit from it.
Note: I dive into deeper detail into other subjects such as the man child’s Qareen, smear campaign, back burner/new supply and manipulations in other podcasts, so you need to go through them too to understand this podcast in more depth. I didn’t want to repeat the same info in this podcast to not make it longer.
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I laughed out loud when you said - if you are a man child you should listen 😂😂😂😂
I'm sitting here and I'm transfixed. I just listened to your podcast about the manchild. It was very, very upsetting but it also brought peace to my heart. My father and my soon-to-be ex-husband are manchild who became malignant. Really everything you said in the podcast applied to both of them. Many questions that I have had my whole life were answered. I was a people pleaser with emphatic traits who was driven from home into the arms of a Manchild. For 24 years I fought for him to finally "grow up". Through this frustration and gaslighting, cheating and lying, I became toxic myself. I have much to learn. Allah saved me. Your work is life-saving, Dr. Mona. may Allah reward you richly for this.
I totally understand, it's a difficult pill to swallow, but the sooner women understand these types of men, the quicker they can either get out of these relationships, set the right boundaries and heal. I'm glad it helped alhamdulilah, thank you for your feedback it helps me too :)
Ameen ya Rabb
22 years I was married to a man child, he destroyed my confidence and all I wanted in a family.
He left because of a disgusting back burner supply. Whatever their dysfunctional relationship is, they wanted to marry when they were young and it was an emotional affair that ruined everything.
She’s not his ‘family’, she’s a woman who thrives on attention from married men…Subhan’Allah
I could have been better, more involved in Deen and steadfast, but I loved him and looked after him. Not asking for our rights feels like we are being ‘just’ and easygoing, unfortunately it turns us into doormats for these types of men. They don’t appreciate anything we do, it nurtures their feminine energy and they end up being ‘kept women’.
May Allah never allow these men and those they associate with (especially the back burners) to destroy us and ruin our lives further…Ameen 😔♥️
I really cried with this one.. I was with a man child only 6,5 months but it felt we were married 40 years. Subhan Allaah he was so closed in the beginning and very distanced. He ALWAYS told me how clingy I was (because I love DEEP conversations, i LOVE to cuddle and be romantic) and he hated all of this. After some time he could NOT sleep without me cuddling him. He was really opening up and becoming a better person subhan Allaah. Out of nowhere he started becoming verbally abusive to me and physically abusive to my son I have from a precious marriage. And the abuse was always when we were having the best times and bonding..
. I couldn’t understand why he behaved that way JUST at the moment he was starting to open up emotionally. Now I understand why.
His family always told him how happy they were with me and at this point they HATE me. His mother specifically I tought we had a good relationship, and now she is telling him to stay far away. It made no sense at all untill I heard this one. May Allaah bless you dr mona❤️ im SO thankful I came across your channel
Bless you :( I know it's a hard and heavy one, but inshallah you'll heal after understanding it all.
It takes a man child a long time to open up and be emotionally vulnerable/available and when that happens, you'll see the sweet boy who just wants to be cuddled and held etc. This is the part of him that the empath woman gets so attached to, but it's a maternal attachment, rather than a healthy attachment. She feels growth in her self value after seeing the troubled man child finally relax and start healing. When the relationship ends, he takes away a lot of that self value she felt within herself, which is why the heartbreak is painful.
They get moody during the best times when the relationship is at its peak, because their intrusive thoughts (qareen) reminds them that they don't deserve it, because they're a fraud, they have a bad past, they aren't good people and that you deserve better. Their qareen never wants them to be happy, so to you it's confusing as to why they're moody and miserable when things are so good, but that's what's going on internally. They also know the relationship will end and they grieve that from early on and remember past traumas. They prefer to prepare themselves, so they don't hit rock bottom like last time.
Finally, in regards to the family, after the breakup he would have created a drama over how heartbroken he is that you walked away (even though he was relieved you ended it) and it causes the family to resent you when they see the state he's in, on top of everything negative he's already told them about you while you were together. They really do a number on you behind your back that causes the mother, who you had a good relationship with before, to hate you, so that she doesn't stay in contact with you. He doesn't want you to know about him and the mess he will make of his future by staying in contact with her, so he makes sure to sever the ties between you, his kids and his family.
They never get over the empath woman, ever. I've spoken to so many of these narcs who told me this.
Wow this very unhealthy attachment. I just experienced this!!! This mother was obsessed with her son
I was spell bound while listening to this podcast...you have a very deep understanding of this topic..mind blowing
May Allah reward you for your effort and help Dr Mona.🤲
This described my marriage to a tee. Thank you doctor, as ever ❤
May Allah reward you with protection and more beneficial knowledge. This information is very well needed especially that you connect it to islamic knowledge .
Alhamdulilah ♥️
Wow. Wow. This describes everything I went through. I’m horrified. I wish I found this six months ago before I knew him. But we already had the reverse discard. Thank god.
Amazing & on-point as always. Thank you Dr Mona x
Mashallah amazing podcast you are brilliant dr mona please never stop them ❤️
Sister you are truly a blessing from Allah; Allah Humma Barik
May Allah SWT protect, bless, elevate you In this life and the next AMEEN.❤
Thank you so much that’s sweet of you and Ameen for us all inshallah ♥️
I have a son who turned to be the opposite of a man child even though he did not have a male figure growing up and was over protected by mom etc. He moved out and lives on his own .
It means he’s a self sufficient and mature empathic man. Some men develop emotional maturity from a young age and decide to stay away from a toxic environment to protect their peace and themselves.
So very true. I always thought Allah protected him in many ways. Subhan Allah.
Thank you this video came the right time for me
This is probably my 4th times coming back to this podcast, it was a lot to process mostly because I couldn't believe what I had allowed myself to experience. Alhamdulillah I'm divorced after 2 years of marriage, I almost couldn't believe how bright my life is after I left the marriage, although I do still have a lot of work to rebuild myself. Listening to this makes me wonder if a narcopath can also be a manchild? My experience was exactly like what you described in the other podcast about narcopath, but this one was very similar too, especially about how everything started..
Yes I explain in this podcast how a man child can turn into a malignant narc/narcopath. There's another podcast coming to explain it further.
Thank you so much for this as it has made clear of the situation Im in right now. Could you please do a podcast on how to raise children not to become man-child/woman-child in a situation where the father is a man child and the mother has to become the sole provider for the kids. Can it be possible to raise empathic-matured children with no real-man father figure? Again, thank you so much❤
Once again thank you very much for this informative podcast. JazakAllah khairan ❤
You’re welcome :)
I wanted to say thank you so much!
This was so useful.
You are such a wonderful person mashaa’Allah. Thank you so so much for this amazing information, everything finally makes sense now alhamdulellah! 💞💞
You're most welcome ❤
I could relate a lot to this podcast as someone who is separated from my manchild narc husband, and I think he is somewhere between a manchild narcissist and a malignant narcissist. He's lazy, stingy, and very attached to his mother but doesn't ask for money from his mother, but his mother is dependent upon him for money as her husband is narcissistic, too. My husband was supportive of my career but started expecting money from me when I started earning well.
1. When a man-child narcissistic husband hoovers after you leave them first, do they really want you back, especially when you have a child together? What is their motive behind hoovering a separated wife?
2. Is the man-child narcissist less dangerous than a red pill narcissist?
3. Can a man child narcissist still hate/resent his mother even when he still considers her the most important person on earth and shares every single thing that happens in his life with her (especially in his married life)?
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh sis, may Allaah ease all your afairs and take away your pain.
Sis, when they hoover you. It’s not a good sign. Mean’s they still think they can get something out of you.
I’ve heard dr Mona tell in one of her podcasts, that the human side of the narc loves the empath. But because he is so overpowered by his nafs/jinn he can and will not treat you how you deserve, so going back will MAKE IT WORSE ! The abuse will get worse since they have no respect seeing you want them back after you found out who they are.
The man child in my eyes is more dangerous then the redpill guy because with the redpill you know what your getting. With the manchild its emotional games, you see someone religiously and sweet, soft etc but they are NOT.
She has a podcast about the mother. And there are two types or he LOVES his mom to death or he resents her. ❤️
Jazak'Allah for confirming everything I had a hunch about and had been fighting for, being a man army against everyone who does not understand me as to where I am coming from. I agree and am vigilant about the there point that has been mentioned.🚩🚩🚩🚩 The ' me too' is a massive cringe. It shows people pleasing , not their own personality, and that they do not have their own opinions.
When will the female child woman narcissist appear? I check your channel every time to see if it's been uploaded yet 🤭
It’s coming out on Friday evening inshallah, I didn’t have time to record last week :)
So refreshing to learn about narcissists from an Islamic perspective. Thank you, how do you make sure your next partner is not a narcissist?
You’re welcome. It’s all in my book 😊
This is my life story.
She described everything to the T in my life. I realized I married a man child. He’s hoovered me back and now he’s busy ignoring me with his new wife. He didn’t give me my Maher and I still love him. But the love is damaged. I’m aware of everything but how do you rip the love you spent with your husband of 15 years. 15 years of every kind of abuse. The discription dr. Aladressy uses is so exact, He spent minimum money. He uses Botox & facials etc…on himself and I looked like a poor beggar. No shoes just dollar store crocks…. The last time I bought clothes was I believe the first year of marriage and one dress a few years after. He borrowed my money didn’t return it…..
How do i become independent and break away from narcissist husband if i am 52 years old had cancer and even if i work it wont be enough to pay for rent in new york? I prayed a lot and recently the narcissist husband got diagnosed with prostate cancer. I have no family that would help in any way . My three adult children in their 20s have depression anxiety and ocd .may Allah make it easy on everyone especially in these times in the world.
You may need some coaching sister to help you deal with this situation effectively. You’re welcome to reach out to me or any other Muslim Counsellor who can advise you inshallah.
Inshaallah I hope
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I have seen men who are man child but there mothers was a traditional home wife and a caring mother but still the man is a man child. Is this possible?
Does a man child knows that he is lookimg for a mother in spouse or is that subconcious?
It’s subconscious for some and conscious in others. I have clients who tell me that their husbands call them mum 😂 or “I love you because you’re exactly like my mum”! There are men who make a conscious decision to marry a mother figure and then they cheat on her with promiscuous women who are the polar opposite to get their sexual needs met. More is coming about this.
@@themuslimnarcissistbook Thank You. May Allah bless you.🥰