Infiniti M56S & M37S. Sport Package Unique features. What makes a true sport model?
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2019
- These are the tell-tale features of a true Sport. We also discuss what the fuss is all about.
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I thought I'm the only person who's obsessed with Infiniti M.
Yemi I’m under the impression that there is no difference in the body shape and both are identical, what makes you think otherwise ?
Not Alone brotha
Bought M35 a few months ago as a second car love it and now I’m looking for a mint M56.
My truck stays parked 90 % of the time now 🤦♂️
No. Im in here with you
Got one m56s. Black on black with 100,000 k 😁
The M37+ was one of the most beautiful sedans ever produced.
Infiniti M class is so 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
And it’s low key too. Not everyone knows about these
💯 I got da M37s and I fuckin love it
This is AMAZING video so much useful info. I'm just trying to buy m56 / q70 currently and now I know exactly what I want and how to distinct between them! Thank you so much man!
The areo kit is not on the q70 and it’s gonna be hard to find a q70 v8 with all the options of the last M fully loaded
I want one of these so bad.
Thanks so much for the content on these, they are timeless
I still enjoy mine. Definitely a good design with the power to match
I have a 2012 M37S with the sport package. Bought it in 2017 with 87k miles and now it has 121k miles. Very good car. The only major issue I have is the 4 wheel steering failed shortly after I bought it. So I have the 4ws and traction lights on all the time for the last 3 years. Fixing the issue will cost a lot of $$$$. Otherwise, it’s a great car in every way, performance, comfort, and style
Have you had anyone other than the dealership look at your 4WAS issue? Some people have had access with minor repairs to the rear rack motor and have posted on the Nicoclub.com forum
Thank you for the info, it’s very good. No, it’s really really good.
Wow! RAS/4WAS was a big piece of what made infiniti stand out vs bmw, mb, audi... That eliminates the q70 from prospective purchase. Great info. Appreciate your time Ed. Yes write the article! I'll read it
The article is already up 👍
And honestly 4was is one of the main reasons that I've held back from getting a Q70. I was planning to just buy the exterior pieces for my project car
Tried searching for the sport package specs versus the base specs and no where did i find such a thorough drill down.
I really appreciate your channel as a new owner of a moonlight white 2013 m56s with 31k miles.
I believe after mark weins you sir will be my most watched channel on you tube.
Stay safe and god bless.
Ahmed from Bahrain
Thanks for the kind words Ahmed. This video took a long time to complete plus a few retries because of all the detail I wanted to include. I also decided to draft up an article in case someone wanted a written reference but I'm not sure many care about written media really, haha.
I'm not done though, I have a part 2 discussion to sport models that I am still putting together. I got encouraged because this is one of my most popular videos recently, so we'll see how the next one is received.
Oh, and I coincidentally just got introduced to Mr. Weins. Seems like a guy that genuinely enjoys his travels and experiencing other people's cultures.
How’s the car been after 2 years
@@xdxd-ip3yg the 5.7s fueling ain’t Easy, however super fast, comfortable, cold AC, but kinda small in the back for the kids.
Changed the starter motor only.
I will be picking up my 2013 M37 Dec. 16 2020 I can't wait!!!
Congratulations in advance. I hope you get to enjoy yours as much as I have mine
Just purchased a 2013 Infiniti M37xS. 47k miles. Full dealer service history receipts. Walked out the door at $15,900. Couldn't be happier.
Great price for the year and mileage!
Very informative and interesting. I also have a m37x deluxe touring with tech, sport wheels and brakes. Love the car I'm second owner with 49k miles mint. Car was originally $64
Thank you.
And I wish you a trouble-free ownership experience. I love these cars
Damn you're stocked up on Infiniti's, nice. I have a dinosaur compared to these cars. Saving up for a M56, I have a 16yr old G35X. Really not needed here in TX, but got a great deal on it. I've owned many Nissan's and just switched back to them with the G35x. It still is a great car considering how old it is and the mileage it has. I've never had such an old vehicle that still drives like it's newish. Other than the regular wear and tear on the suspension. It does love to consume oil, that's a given due to its age. Ive never had an older vehicle that drives like this G35x. Even when I had a 300zxTT it was 12yrs old in 02 when I got it. It was a great car but it was obviously old. I had to replace everything on it. Then again, it probably was beat all to hell. Same with a 02 Z28 Camaro I had, it was only 7yrs old when I had it. It was probably ran hard it's whole life as well. It still drove strong when I sold it at 220k. Only domestic I had that wasn't a pos other than a Lincoln Ls I had. Can't really say how reliable that car was, as I ended up totaling it after a yr of ownership. But the 95 M3 I had was a pos, it was 14yrs old and it literally started to fall apart on me. Definitely regret getting that car, the parts were expensive because it was a Beemer.
Only thing that gives my G35x away age wise, is the wear and tear on the seats. As well as the paint it's scratched and there's some dents due to the exterior not being well taken care of. But the engine is in great condition, and I've babied it since I got it. It has 206k now and it will definitely last past 300k. That's the great thing about these Infiniti's. Other than most G35s, they have likely been taken great care of. You can almost guarantee that they haven't been modded and ran hard for the majority of it's life. If my G35x drives and handles this well, I can only imagine how nice the M56 will be by the time I get one. I'm wanting to get a 2011-2013 model. So it'll likely be 10-8 yrs old. These cars are slept on, ppl like to diss on Nissan's. Every one I've owned have been great reliable cars. I drove the shit out of the 300zxTT I had. It never gave me any issues whatsoever. By far the BMW M3 I had was the biggest headache.
If you take care and maintain your Nissan/Infiniti it'll last forever. They definitely are a great investment. Best bang for your buck, won't find another luxury sports car for the price. Rather have an Infiniti over an Acura, Lexus, Cadillac, Lincoln, Audi, BMW, Mercedes, etc. Thanks for the video though, a lot of good info here. Much appreciated
I also love my old Infinitis. Aside from the fuel economy, I much rather drive my 08 M45 than rent a car most times.
And I'm not afraid of miles either, so I try to drive as much as I can.
And I love the M & G AWD system because it's RWD-biased. But then it's there to give you traction precisely when needed. I feel that side by side, an M56x would launch off the line better than a standard RWD model, and I believe it would be the same for the Gs. So as much as it doesn't snow much down there, AWD has its benefits
I purchased a 2015 Q70S 5.6 it had 5400 miles i never owned a Infiniti and after driving it i totally fell in love and will never get rid if it one of my favorite cars I've owned 👍🏼
Just bought the 2013 m37xs ... incredible car bought it with 70k miles and runs so healthy.
Awesome! Congratulations on the purchase.
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine.
I have 2011 m37, 100,000+ miles, as far as the age of the car, what is your opinion about the transition "cvt", is has it ever been an issue for you?
As far as the LSD, I know it wasn't an option however I was wondering if there is an aftermarket option, that you know of. I've looked and come up empty by searching for the R208 rear diff. Just wondering if another gear set might work?
I briefly looked for any other compatible diffs. Unfortunately every other diff I found to start with was too low a ratio to change out from the M56 one. You'd probably get some kind of a code.
I have a Fuga 370 GT Type-S and your spot on man :) Except mine comes with reclining seats in front and yall have the 5.6 and we don't here in Japan just the 4.5 Y50, 3.7 Y51 and then hybrid...
They did us wrong in the US market, lol. They took away a lot of the passenger comfort features. But I suppose for me, I'll just be happy I got the features I want and use as a driver.
As always some good information coming from you
I appreciate the support
@@EdBwoy does the sport sit lower than the x
@@dontadeshun the X sits higher than the RWD models
@@EdBwoy do you know how much
@@dontadeshun from the factory, only half an inch 😂😂
But with age, the AWD models tend to retain their original height better, so their wheel gap looks dramatically larger compared to a similar year RWD.
Wow an M collector, your a legend
I have a habit where if I really like a vehicle, then I buy another
M56x doesn’t have paddle shifters, can you put an M56s steering column in an x for paddle shifters?
Very informative video. One thing that I don't think I heard you mention is that the deluxe touring package that gives you the silver infused wood trim was not available on sport models (at least I don't think it was, could be wrong). So if you see the silver infused wood trim then it's highly unlikely that it's a sport model. I've never seen a sport model with the silver polished trim.
Thank you for the kind words. And you are correct that the whiteash silver wood trim was not an option on sport models. Only after getting rid of my X did I get to know how desirable the deluxe touring package was to some.
I would have made a video focused on it.
Otherwise, there was a lot of ground to cover in the video, and I did my best to keep it about what the Sport model *has* instead of what it *doesn't have* , for example a transfer case.
I know of at least one sport model owner who sourced the whiteash silver trim because they like it, which is a discussion that could have changed the theme of the video.
Also the rear window shade and suede like headliner not included in sport l believe.
super late to the party, but from 2013 onwards the sports model and all wheel drive model were available together! M56xS and Q70S awd
so the 2013 M56xS seems like it would have the 4was and awd
Hey man I have a quick question... I'm in NYC and have a 2011 M37x....Would you know where I can buy engine mount brackets, I can't find anywhere that has them and they are back ordered at the dealer? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Do you mean the brackets, the metal pieces that are bolted to the engine and then rest on the engine mounts?
I have to clarify because I can't see the metal failing easily.
Either way, I have found that the owners of this website are usually willing to help me locate hard-to-find parts: www.infinitioepartsdirect.com
I like the 18's, lighter, slightly better acceleration and mpg, more sidewall for driving comfort :) wish I could get an M56 with 18's and the deluxe touring and tech packages but they're never optioned that way
See that white car in the video? Yes, it came exactly as you describe.
I only switched to the 20s because I had them lying around and I was quoted a stupid low price for the 20" tires.
@@EdBwoy nice! I am still stuck between an M56, M37, Q50 3.0tt, or the old 2006-2012 IS350. How is carbon build up on the DI 5.6 engine?
I got a question concerning my 5.6, so whenever power power is introduced or taken away, the drive train makes a clicking noise. I have AWD if that means anything
Look up "axle click" here on UA-cam. Its a common issue that just needs the drivetrain to be cleaned, lubricated & tightened
Do you have the transmission delay when coming to a stop? Like the transmission resets its self then goes back into gear.
If I understood your description, then no. None of mine do that. Would you be able to record a video of that and share it?
i’m back got a is250 don’t ask lol just got a loaded m37x with s wheels with the gtr paint
Ed i have an issue with my 2012 m56x headlight ..water got in it and it looks like a need a new headlight ...any suggestions where i can get a good hid headlight ?
Ebay, car-part.com
Btw is there any chance to have have video about what to inspect on m56 q70 before the purchase? It would be super helpful I believe
Of course, I'm actually working on something, but it needs time to put it all on paper/video
Vladimir Alferov just by the last model of the 2013 M issues will be addressed
Great video. I just wanted to ask you if the 2012 M37S has LSD. I've searched around on forums but there is no definite answer. I wanted to change the oil for the rear differential but I wasn't sure if I should the LSD gear oil. Your opinion would be highly appreciated. Thank you in advance and keep up the great videos.
Thank you, much appreciated.
To answer your question, no. These cars don't have LSD diffs. Not sure if you came across this link as you were dighing in the forums - forums.nicoclub.com/so-anyone-ever-confirm-if-we-have-a-limited-slip-t621420.html
@@EdBwoy Thank you so much for replying. I really appreciate your help. Big fan of your videos. Thank you.
@@EdBwoy Thank you for the link. Good info.
Wonder if a LSD diff from a GTR would fit?
Currently in the 2009 Acura rl 3.7 305hp sh-awd and previously had the 2j gs300 the M37xs is my next low key bang for my buck nothing beats Sh-awd
Tho an M56xS or fx50 are gems not many videos comparing the 350 f sport vs M37xs Hoping M37xs is the right choice
Before you settle on buying one, you should test drive both and let us know how the GS f sport compares to the M.
Nice cars I bet, but most of the Lexus offerings are not really my type
Good info ed. Learned a couple things. The inside of the headlights are different and there are actually 3 different types of bumpers (base sport and vader). U didn't mention anything about the trunk spoiler. Guess that wasn't a sport only option.
Yeah, the spoiler was a standalone option
@@EdBwoy ed can u answer me this please. I have base model and want to upgrade my brake calipers to akebono. Do I need to switch my 18inch wheels to 20inch?
@@dirtlamp3603 good info here. Offset is the issue. forums.nicoclub.com/factory-18in-wheels-akebono-big-brakes-2009-m35x-t615819.html
dirtlamp hey I actually have a 12 M37x wanted sport brakes since the M37xs didn’t start until 13 I did the brake upgrade and still have my 18s on and they cleared did the work my self i have the deluxe touring 18s vs base 18s not sure if that makes a difference but I don’t think so
Ok ok I gotta know. Which is your favorite?
I have an m35 base/journey and an m56S. I def love my m56s, the power, the look and the handling. But man, my m35 rides so nice and those engines are no slouch. it's really hard as I consider selling it
I considered selling my M45, but over time realized I liked it just as much as the M56. Different cars for different purposes, I like the way the Y50 handles for a daily driver. Sometimes the M56 feels like a roller coaster, it can be dramatic.
Hi, im planning to purchase m56. I heard if m56 has rear worm gear issue. It’s very hard to fix even at Infiniti dealership. Have you seen or experienced rear worm gear problems??
They could have been talking about the 4was motor in the rear steering rack in sport models. The dealer cannot disassemble it for you, because they are set up to replace the whole assembly.
Would you be up to or able to do maybe a kwik vid on the m37 vs m56 in a performance comparison, and your thoughts on the 3.7 powering this big car?
I would have to meet up with someone willing to let me borrow their car.
I think the M37 engine is more than capable. 4000 lbs isn't all that heavy for a midsize luxury car.
I'd still love to compare the entire lineup though
@@EdBwoy 4k lbs... Thats all? Lighter than a mini clubman
@@mikeschaner5853 the M56x is over 4200lb, the M37x is around 4050#, the rwd V6 is 3850#. It's likely more fun to toss around.
@@EdBwoy I'm still stuck Ed... I like both the y50 and y51. They're both very comfortable and enjoyable, however i cant really get a good feel for the long haul interior feel in the y51 as i can only test drive. For you, which is more of a long term comfortable enjoyable ride for both you and passengers; the y50 m, or the y51 m? Thanks again for this vid. It's helped me spot a fake 56xS
My M37s says on the sticker between the door that it’s 5006lbs ?
I have to get my hands on one
We love them! Are you looking at any type in particular - V8, V6?
@@EdBwoy Either one is fine but I would like one with AWD for NY winters and for the track 🤘🏿 lol.
Good day , I have 2011 infiniti m56x. My Stability control light comes on when I hard Accelerate . When I trun the car off an back on light gose away. I changed ecm & abs module. Still haven that problem. Really don't know what to do now.
Are your tires all the same size? What is the size you have on?
Is the ground slippery where you are?
check your brakes and brake fluid. this went away after i got my brakes done
Since I can’t find a 56s only 56 base I’m considering adding the shift paddles and brakes also adding air intakes and doing a complete exhaust upgrade, coil overs , sway bars at least it can get modified to one 🤣 oh yeah change the front bumper and black out the head lights
That's a lot of effort, lol. But hey, make it your own!
Question which is wider or has more shoulder room the m56/37 or the q70/70l
The shoulder room should be the same. It's the rear passenger legroom that is increased for the long wheelbase models
Where car l find a sport bumper for my 2011 m37x with tech? Thanks in advance
EBay, LKQ, car-part.com, Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, dealership website etc
Hey I need some help I’m looking at a 2013 m37xs with 192,000 miles for 8300 here in Florida what should I look for or keep in mind that’ll have to get replaced later on
I would inspect it just like any other vehicle with 200k miles. Unless you see proof of receipts, figure out the suspension is almost due. The M-related things I would look out for are that the AC or heat blows evenly all over the car, and if you have heated+cooled seats, that both functions work. Test the dome lights too.
Scan for codes, because done V6s had galley gasket issues like other VQ37s.
Check out this video - ua-cam.com/video/fcSzzu5wS3s/v-deo.html
Man that M56 I’d take it over my Q50 any day!
Are these cars as reliable as the Lexus LS400 430 and 460 models?? I want to buy an m56 but I'm scared if I'll be able to afford to fix it if something goes wrong
To be honest, if reliability was a major concern, I would focus on the Lexus.
Not that this car is bad, it's just that it doesn't withstand abuse and neglect like most Toyotas would.
I have the q50 lm trying to be like you have a drive way full of infiniti
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Did they make a M37xs someone is selling this in GA. Is the a unicorn or simply someone just slapped on badges?
Yup! The xS came in 2013. AWD with a lot of the sport options - wheels, brakes, etc.
Is buying a 2011 Infiniti M56S with 120k km a good decision?
Aren't the wheels from the FX45 really heavy?
The FX wheel paired with the tire is approx 6 pounds heavier than the stock 18" wheel & tire.
Very close to the M56 sport wheel
ua-cam.com/video/KF1_4UtTN2c/v-deo.html
I have a black M37x and just down the street at an Acura car dealership they just got in a M56xS with 80k miles on it, and I dunno if i should trade my 37 in for it since I enjoy the handling of it over the 56xS (though its way much rarer) when I went on the highway for a test drive. It's truly a monster though in the power department and it feels right. But my 37 feels like it should too.
Should I make the trade? It's 19k for the 56xS. Last year there was one around the area for 15k but I got the 37x right before the 56x was posted.
19k for an M56xS is a great price, especially with the mileage. I suppose it also depends on what other packages were optioned to the car.
I would say taking the trade also depends on where this leaves you financially.
In all honesty though, if the M56 did not wow you during the test drive, don't get it. Since handling is a higher priority for you than rarity, stick with what you have.
Test drive an M37S if you get a chance.
@@EdBwoy Yeah it's all good financially. And the power certainly wowed the hell out of me; same with the sound. Just wanted the input on it and thanks. I think I'll go for it. Thanks Ed! :D
@@EdBwoy It's the Deluxe Touring and Performance Tire & Wheel
@@Atsuka_Uchiha keep us posted when you get it. Give us a review and comparison of that versus the m37
Im looking for one now
Got one yet?
@EdBwoy I got a 2017 q70s sorry for the late response couldn't find the 5.6 😢
I would love to leave my Infinity M35 with you this is my first Infinity I love the ride it's fast mechanics be robbing me for the parts 😔🤷🏽♂️ another thing where I live it's snows I have a rear wheel I have to get rid of this s*** but I had fun why it last💨😉
I hope you were able to survive the snow just fine. Having good tires helps a lot
Got a question ed! Where can I reach you?
Email. Edbwoy@gmail.com
Hey Ed! I'd love to join the website if you do make one.
Awesome! The website is a work in progress, but the first article is up. If you like it, share it
Good video but someone is really considering buying the sport model they need to realize a lot of things you get extra on the sport model comes with a bigger up keep cost, do your research before you decide whether it’s the base, X or the sport. I got a 2011 base which has everything I wanted without the cost of a technology package extra 3,500 or the sport bigger wheel and calibers comes with price which is fine if that’s what you want, but like I said do your research.
Thank you for the kind words.
My experience has been the opposite of what you fear. I always get the technology package in my cars and never had to do anything out of the ordinary with those systems. Breakdown and maintenance is the same as any other car, except for maybe the 4WAS system on some of the 2011-13 models.
Hey Ed, so do you prefer the M56 over the M37?
Since I like V8s, I prefer the M56. The M37 isn't bad though, it's probably easier to find one too
What about lsd?
I'm looking at a 2011 s model with 49k on it, it looks to be in great shape what do you think is a good price for it?
It depends on various factors.
- V6 or V8?
- what other packages does it have?
- exterior & interior condition
- Maintenance history
- Location & availability
@@EdBwoy San Antonio tx , v8 bulk on blk with the sport pkg. It looks like a solid car, also found a 12 with 65k with exact same options. I don't want to over pay since your the expert on these cars, I thought that I'd ask you. I was looking at the charger rt at first, but saw the M56 and fell in love with it. It's not perfect but it checks all my boxes. Thanks for any advice you can give me.
@@wolfguard1180 15k would be a good deal for a fully loaded sport. Anything less is a steal
EdBwoy have him go for the 2013 model parking assist all in it
@@SPORTSARENAMUSIC it's hard enough to get a 2011 in good condition
Best thing to do is look through the window and look to see if it has paddle shifters
Paddle shifters can be added to non-sport models.
@@EdBwoy some of them dont have the wiring for it only a few have it
So does the 56 have a awd sport model ?
There is a M56xS for 2013. And there are Q70 AWD with sport packages
It does
I got the areo package sport x 56 2013.. I noticed the x has the technology package it plays dvds n have back up camera the S doesn't
But no paddle shifters lol
Dont have those petals lol
your wrong. the s model has technology package already included. the s you seen must been a fake, i bought a m56s 2012 4 months ago and it has it all ....
Also it’s either AWD or 4WAS can’t get both on the car lol
i mean i don't have the tech features on my steering wheel or auto cruise but it can for sure read dvds thats what the manual says
This model front bumper is the meanest
It is a good looking bumper for sure. Have you seen the Aero bumper btw?
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The m37s have vlsd ?
No, they don't
I think this guy likes Infiniti
Just a little bit, 😂
sorry I did not watch the whole video, but what about infiniti Q45 do you have one.
I do have a q45. ua-cam.com/video/oGJLl6h3r9I/v-deo.html
@@EdBwoy I love Infinities
@@syedhussain3810 same here! I have consistently found them to be a good value for money
What’s faster the v8 or 3.7
V8 of course!
Can u please sell me the black m56s and put the graphite colored wheels on it please. I need this car. Immediately
Hey, thanks for reaching out. However I recently sold it
an intersting fact from russia bro: you can meet here infiniti M25/37/56, q70 2.5/ 3.7 /5.6 and JDM nissan fuga 250 gt / 370 gt/hybrid, nissan Cima y51
Wow, so many choices!
Check out the article: white-collar-mechanic.com/index.php/2019/12/14/infiniti-m56s-what-makes-a-true-sport-model/
Great article Ed. I really enjoyed reading it and passed it along. Hope it gets good traction because it's worth it.
@@sdwalton33 thank you SD, I always appreciate the support.
Do We have that q70 vs M56 comparison?
Nope, not yet
@@EdBwoy Ok. I am thinking about purchasing a 2014 q70 sport to see if I can convert it since it is extremely hard to fine the 5.7 in the newer refreshed models
@@curryshotyou1538 I don't think it's worth it. The 2014 q70s I've seen are going for "real q70" money but are not much different from a 2013 M
@@EdBwoy I agree with you on that for sure!
Let me buy one off you
Sorry, I didn't get notified of this. Hope you were able to buy one by jow
I can see why the M56 is so expensive, this guy’s hoggin them all!
Damn u got a whole Infiniti dealership