[TF2] Saxton Hale: One Step Ahead

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
  • Was Saxton Hale the right choice and could it play a possible future for TF2? Let's find out!
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  • @LizardOfOz
    @LizardOfOz 7 місяців тому +76

    What's different this Summer compared to the Community Updates is that VSH-VScript has been [almost] finished when Valve got to decide if they want to include it. There was a guarantee on what they're getting, while a Community Update of the old style could end up being anything.
    VSH was made and then picked. Community Updates were picked and then made.

  • @AnthemHero
    @AnthemHero 7 місяців тому +88

    For the October update, I'm personally hoping that we get to have a choice between Saxton Hale, The Horseless Headless Horseman and MERASMUS!.

    • @user-un2pf4ht9l
      @user-un2pf4ht9l 7 місяців тому +3

      There is a wip Halloween map made by the ones who made the vsh there is only saxton. But he got a new Halloween skin tho

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 7 місяців тому

      ​@@user-un2pf4ht9lthe map is garbage + hale gets afterburn on his abilities so you have even less fun than usual

    • @drivanradosivic1357
      @drivanradosivic1357 6 місяців тому

      VSH as a Mercs vs Boss characters game mode would be great. making normal boss characters and also making some of the Halloween bosses playable would be intersting.
      Saxton Hale as one of the normal boss characters would be interesting. What about other normal characters? a Lumberjack for Lumberyard, Offblast with some Rocket Silo Patroller, Park Ranger for Watchtower, Ravine with a Security Guard and more would be cool to have for normal Arena mode bosses and for VSH variants.

  • @AnthonyDaFox
    @AnthonyDaFox 7 місяців тому +145

    i would love to see a Deathrun mode where the mercs have to deal with a psychotic mad scientist, possibly from the medic's Past, and go through all these Robe goldburg style traps.

    • @btcbuster5556
      @btcbuster5556 7 місяців тому +13

      the problem is deathrun just isn't that fun, you take advantage of none of tf2's mechanics with it

    • @creeps351
      @creeps351 7 місяців тому +18

      I feel like if deathrun were to be added in the game in some shape or form it would probably be in Halloween. Imagine a giant Saw parody starring Merasmus. One person plays as Merasmus setting up magical traps, while everyone else tries to get through alive.

    • @user-un2pf4ht9l
      @user-un2pf4ht9l 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@creeps351its gonna be hard because valve said that map need objectifs to be added, deathrun doesnt have any its just arena you walk a path

    • @Iron_Soil
      @Iron_Soil 7 місяців тому

      ​@@btcbuster5556maybe something like bumper carts? After round is about to end

    • @btcbuster5556
      @btcbuster5556 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Iron_Soil That's a great idea, the only issue is then the map might be too short, or the rounds go on too long. The best deathrun would be a less stale one, where death can place traps and the team can use their abilities, or each gain a special ability or something.

  • @Lumac0s
    @Lumac0s 7 місяців тому +46

    the man, the myth, the legend, RocketManFran

  • @ohnohe-man19
    @ohnohe-man19 7 місяців тому +29

    I’m just saying if we get the zombie v-script mode for Halloween I think they’ll bring a lot of positive energy back to the game. It already has a lot of positive energy, but he zombies in Saxton hale in the same year dialled you. Crazy numbers for the community.

    • @RocketManFran
      @RocketManFran  7 місяців тому +5

      Very much. Seeing the Zombie v-script is exactly what we need for the next Scream Fortress update!

  • @ItsChr1spy
    @ItsChr1spy 7 місяців тому +11

    I honestly really like the VSH Gamemode! (despite the fact that I die a lot)
    The Gamemode itself has the goofiness of the CTF Maps, with the random people messing around with goofy gimicks like "Engineer who laughs at Sentry" as an example, while also having the Objective being simple enough for everyone to understand
    "Shoot the Big Guy and LIVE."
    I can honestly see the Deathrun gamemode becoming official through either Scream Fortress, where Merasmus forces the Mercs to go through all these spooky traps and what not.
    If not through Scream Fortress, it can either through be the Mercs on the run from the Robots, or to possibly have them running from the TFC Mercs. The VSH Gamemode has Grey Mann talking and with saying that he's "The new CEO of Mann. Co" which is something that happened in the Comics, so this can be a possibility

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 7 місяців тому +3

      "random people messing around with goofy gimmicks" you mean the dudes that taunt in a corner for 25 rounds straight and make it near impossible for anyone to win, and then cry when they get killed and start a votekick on the hale afterwards? you mean those people?

  • @Fr4nk4000
    @Fr4nk4000 7 місяців тому +12

    Saxton hale is in Tf2?! I have to play Tf2 again this is amazing

  • @geraldysjunk
    @geraldysjunk 7 місяців тому +3

    Let me preface this by saying, yes, I know only 2 part time contractors are working on TF2. I personally think the reason Valve added VSH was because they have nearly completely lost all sense of quality control of TF2 (not saying VSH is of poor quality) and they simply don't care. Like in the player model on the HUD, it's Heavy, I doubt it would have been that hard for Valve to make it be Saxton. They added it to temporarily satiate our hunger for more content and because it was already wrapped up in a sweet little package ready to go. We did have that little hiccup with casual not knowing how to add it but that doesn't really bother me because this is brand new. The voice actors (Robin Atkin Downes, Gary Schwartz, Dennis Batemen and John Lowre) have made it very clear that they really want to get back in the studio and work for the game. Valve probably didn't even think to contact them about this, and they probably won't ever. Pure speculation, but I can almost guarantee that if the new voices were horrible, Valve would have still added it to the game. If we do get a community update with new weapons it won't be out of a newfound trust that valve has, it'll be out of pure laziness and a total drop in standards. Valve does not care anymore.

  • @anonymousaccordionist3326
    @anonymousaccordionist3326 7 місяців тому +10

    I just thought I'd point out some very important points that you, and other viewers, maybe did not know. This new version of VSH that was added to the game was made by Lizard of Oz (I don't know if he did it alone), not Valve. He made some UA-cam updates after Vscript became a thing for TF2, so anyone who is curious about it should look for those. The reason the original voice actors did not provide their talents is because Valve had nothing to do with the creation of the mode or maps. It was entirely community made, and the voicelines are built into the vscript of the maps. Obviously, had Valve been the creators of the mode, they would have brought in the gang to do their own custom voice work, if they decided to add voice lines at all.

  • @MainDotLua
    @MainDotLua 7 місяців тому +17

    I absolutely love the community VSH. I have spent countless hours on multiple different servers playing it with friends and it was always a blast.
    Seeing it in Casual in such an updated way is really awesome, even if they now banished it to the Misc section of the Alternative Gamemodes. But hey, that's where a couple of my favorite maps already live so... not a big deal.

  • @SentryWill
    @SentryWill 7 місяців тому +5

    VSH is what made the summer update special. It opens the door to who-knows-what being added in future seasonal updates, and it's a nice way to introduce new content in the game in an era where Valve won't do anything themselves

  • @FourByteBurger
    @FourByteBurger 7 місяців тому +20

    It's always a good day when Fran uploads! Good to see you mate!

  • @tommarch.4493
    @tommarch.4493 7 місяців тому +4

    it's not the first community game mode that has been in the “official” category, it's just that the other was limited to Halloween for many years. Also, it's not summer now lol

  • @angzarrpsyco
    @angzarrpsyco 7 місяців тому +2

    Saxton only kills during partner taunts if he is the one initiating it

  • @kodiakbear9794
    @kodiakbear9794 7 місяців тому +3

    "But the SFM was pretty cool."
    So were the cosmetics.

  • @emperorbooglitch8540
    @emperorbooglitch8540 7 місяців тому +1

    Saxton Hale/The Administrator : Grey Mann
    Blutarch : Redmond
    Soldier : Merasmus
    And that's about it for characters outside the TF2 cast has for villains. Maybe Scout, Spy, Heavy, Medic, Demoman, Engineer, Sniper and Pyro could have some antagonists? And I don't mean the former blue mercenaries either, they really and honestly didn't last long enough to be considered rivals, and that fake Santa Claus "died" too soon and Steve Jobs was a one-off.

  • @pat_krevetka
    @pat_krevetka 7 місяців тому +3

    Glad to see you back!💙

  • @therealzitrus
    @therealzitrus 7 місяців тому +2

    AMAZING video. Great edits and very well paced. Good work man

  • @Kos-here
    @Kos-here 7 місяців тому +3

    I think the reason why there is different voices is that valve didn’t hire them, but lizard of Oz did

    • @RocketManFran
      @RocketManFran  7 місяців тому +2

      Fun fact: Oz tried to rehire the same person for the og game mode but unfortunately due to inactivity he couldn’t reprise his role

  • @deppo436
    @deppo436 7 місяців тому +2

    With VSH staying permanently from the looks of it, I hope this is a mode that will get new maps over time, because I haven't had this much fun playing TF2 in a lonnngggg time.
    And hopefully, it might just be enough for the gamemode to get it's own slot on the menu tab. With 4 maps already there, and the uniqueness of the mode, it's weird seeing it lumped into misc with other standalone gamemodes that are just twists on previous modes.

  • @cosmicdunsparce
    @cosmicdunsparce 7 місяців тому +2

    As a newer TF2 player(like 2020), seeing a community game mode become a reality is a very fun thing. I had a lot of fun playing VSH and only hope it expands from there

  • @Mottenprophet
    @Mottenprophet 7 місяців тому +4

    it's so weird to hear "its not in casual forever" now when VSH is officially in Misc section all year round

  • @RIP2UALL
    @RIP2UALL 7 місяців тому

    Snow plow was peak, the train was epic.

  • @chilitofu3512
    @chilitofu3512 7 місяців тому +3

    ah yes, a true australian would have the emblem engraved to his chest and be flying in the air

  • @angel_0f_heaven
    @angel_0f_heaven 7 місяців тому +2

    And then zombies became a fucking game mode.

  • @drenched3088
    @drenched3088 7 місяців тому +1

    Sad community updates like Frontline and Myan Project never happened, but atleast community gamemodes and maps are added (Hope they add Slime and Holy Hell)

  • @cihloun
    @cihloun 7 місяців тому +1

    And... it's gone.

  • @TMCRGaming
    @TMCRGaming 7 місяців тому

    you can tell how old this video lol saxton has become an official game mode for some weeks now.

  • @ziongamer2919
    @ziongamer2919 7 місяців тому +1

    I wish they kept Saxton Hale all year round and for scream fortress you could be the Headless Horsemann or Zombie Saxton or Even Merasmus

    • @ziongamer2919
      @ziongamer2919 7 місяців тому +1

      (I know they put it in misc btw) i’m just mad they didn’t put in the casual line up because it has so much potential.

    • @thataintfalco7106
      @thataintfalco7106 7 місяців тому +1

      There’s nothing wrong with misc. people will still play jt

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 7 місяців тому

      for halloween youre getting a garbage map with a hale reskin. look up hell of a mann on the steam workshop

  • @archieTF2
    @archieTF2 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice video

  • @blacklight683
    @blacklight683 7 місяців тому +1

    4:48according to valve and valve alone** and then after not allowing it in the update they added it themselves later

  • @Bruvmakes_stuff
    @Bruvmakes_stuff 7 місяців тому

    Bro when the update was announced I was bounceing on walls

  • @metalfan1890
    @metalfan1890 7 місяців тому

    Guys, hear me out: MvM tour with Mecha Saxton Hale in last wave

  • @MishasSFM
    @MishasSFM 7 місяців тому

    it would be cool to see zombie fortress for Halloween. although that might be a bit much

  • @NevadeanUndergrounder
    @NevadeanUndergrounder 7 місяців тому +1

    [4:11] How did you get a custom decal for the "Star-Spangled Strategy" taunt?

  • @FungallyInfectious
    @FungallyInfectious 7 місяців тому +1

    Putting VSH in the misc queue made me worry that there'd be barely any servers to queue for, but since it was added there I've been consistently finding misc games to join.
    Idk why bc I have no clue how the queue system really works, but has valve finally given us more servers to play misc on?

    • @_M_
      @_M_ 7 місяців тому

      No, just more people wants to play it. So you have more servers automatically. The servers are what people want them to be.

  • @ericwitney5086
    @ericwitney5086 7 місяців тому

    nice zombie call

  • @frankswims
    @frankswims 7 місяців тому

    Death Run is already a thing in Scream Fortress

  • @mert6230
    @mert6230 7 місяців тому +1

    They added the zombie survival mode

  • @n1ghtfa1l
    @n1ghtfa1l 7 місяців тому

    Babe wake up, RocketManFran posted

  • @jacobhutchings6828
    @jacobhutchings6828 7 місяців тому +1

    Wait was that super zombie fortress

  • @noddarkwolf
    @noddarkwolf 7 місяців тому

    TF2 CONTENT IS TF2 CONTENT, SAXTON HAAAAAAAAALE!

  • @TheRedarm75
    @TheRedarm75 7 місяців тому

    More people need to try out alt game modes in general

  • @ice_721YT
    @ice_721YT 7 місяців тому +2

    Pootis return

  • @JACK-MIAMI
    @JACK-MIAMI 7 місяців тому +1

    Why you still dont reach the 100,000 subscribers yet you're so iconic

    • @RocketManFran
      @RocketManFran  7 місяців тому +1

      Tbh I just upload because I wanna do vids for fun and make people laugh, if I reach 100K it would definitely be awesome, but I’m fine with taking the slow road and having people sub to me only when they think they want to.
      And thanks for the kind words, really makes me happy that people love my vids sm❤

  • @_Cambo__
    @_Cambo__ 7 місяців тому

    im hoping that someone makes a halloween vsh map for scream fortress where you can play as the hhh

  • @PumpkinJucio
    @PumpkinJucio 7 місяців тому

    New Rocketmanfran vid yippee

  • @robbierotten2024
    @robbierotten2024 7 місяців тому

    “I howp mistah hayl loves exshploooosiiiiives”

  • @thataintfalco7106
    @thataintfalco7106 7 місяців тому

    Hell yeah it’s in misc

  • @trtccccccccccc
    @trtccccccccccc 7 місяців тому +2

    I kind of like the Giant game mode, too bad it's not in the MISC.

  • @asterlofts1565
    @asterlofts1565 7 місяців тому

    Next: Zombie Infection? Deathrun? Zombie Fortress? Scream Fortress? Super Zombie Forrtress, TF2 Classic o Open Fortress inside TF2? Jailbreak? What can be now?
    Thanks Vscript!

  • @theghosttm8245
    @theghosttm8245 7 місяців тому +1

    Currently, VSH is in the Misc. area
    Also what do you think of Great Blues tier list of community modes that could be added to Casual ?

    • @RocketManFran
      @RocketManFran  7 місяців тому +1

      I haven’t watched it yet actually

    • @theghosttm8245
      @theghosttm8245 7 місяців тому

      @@RocketManFran it’s actually fairly accurate to what I think when I saw it.
      Imagine a balloon race map

  • @robbierotten2024
    @robbierotten2024 7 місяців тому

    I hate that valve took the 2 community updates as a show that a community run update can never work ever again and none of it is Valves fault lol. They really expected to just throw money at random strangers and hope they don’t fight about it. They’re essentially your employees, you’re hiring them. You need to step in and lay down the ground rules if they’re starting pissy fights over the work. They just expected to tell a bunch of strangers “hey, we’re giving money out indiscriminately to you, put out a AAA title update and don’t cause any problems”. Community updates were a great idea, and a combination of idiot and selfish selection of community members and Valves laziness and apathetic nature just screwed it all up.

  • @WDgaster916
    @WDgaster916 7 місяців тому +1

    Future man here the zombie mode is a FUCKING JOKE

  • @PootisSaver
    @PootisSaver 7 місяців тому

    3:38 Partner taunts still kill, it's just that High five doesn't kill (and never did). Only Skullcracker, Flippin' Awesome and Rock Paper Scissors can kill mercs.

    • @RocketManFran
      @RocketManFran  7 місяців тому

      Respectfully, I have to say you're wrong here....at least for the high five. the High Five DID kill. Here's proof of it before it was patched: x.com/MasterGir/status/1679692381594046466?s=20
      Skullcracker & Flippin' Awesome I have tried myself and it did not work unfortunately...again, at least the last time I tried (which was a week ago)
      And ofc the Rock Paper Scissors taunt does kill...it's supposed to in normal game afterall lol

  • @twistedturnip8487
    @twistedturnip8487 7 місяців тому +2

    "for halloween they could add zombies" the gift of prophecy once again given to a random dude on the internet XD
    Edit: wasn't end of the line a poor update because valve gutted a shit ton from content for it and what remained that micro managed and heavily interfered with?

  • @engineergaming3830
    @engineergaming3830 7 місяців тому +2

    I think only flippin awesome works as a tauntkill

    • @madhatter2705
      @madhatter2705 7 місяців тому +2

      and headbutt last time I saw

  • @Gnome_Tank
    @Gnome_Tank 7 місяців тому

    Honestly, i too pray to god valve doesnt go all out on community updates, official content would be oh so very nice right around now.

  • @GoldRichness
    @GoldRichness 7 місяців тому

    Only issue is no amplifier but that’s not that big of a game changer.

  • @manbehindthedesk43
    @manbehindthedesk43 7 місяців тому

    i personally love VSH, although i dont like a bunch of community gamemodes being added like deathrun because that doesnt feel like it belongs in the official lineup, although randomizer and classwars deserve to be in casual

  • @Skypatrol-zh6qp
    @Skypatrol-zh6qp 7 місяців тому +1

    Zombie Rush/Escape official TF2 when?

  • @bliponthe
    @bliponthe 7 місяців тому +2

    I had so much fun playing vsh in the update so I’m kinda sad that it’s gone now. Hopefully valve will add it as a separate gamemode

    • @spooky_moron
      @spooky_moron 7 місяців тому +4

      It's actually not gone, you can find it in the misc section

    • @bliponthe
      @bliponthe 7 місяців тому +1

      @@spooky_moronOh wow that’s great!

  • @captaincookie72
    @captaincookie72 7 місяців тому +1

    Besides the awful sounding voice lines the hale mode is perfect to me
    Also the reason the voice actors didn't participate is most likely because of the Hollywood actors strike. I think I remember hearing that the tf2 VAs were participating in that.

  • @user-25352
    @user-25352 7 місяців тому

    For taunts, only specific ones kill the Hale's partner: Flippin Awesome and Skullcracker. High Five on the video is safe.

  • @Houndouur
    @Houndouur 7 місяців тому

    what's wrong with being in the alternative gamemodes tab tbh?
    literally hightower is in there- it's not gonna be a death sentence as long as it remains a popular gamemode

    • @RocketManFran
      @RocketManFran  7 місяців тому

      There’s nothing wrong with alternative gamemodes cuz ofc they’re not bad, I’m saying it’s sad because people forget it exists sometimes when majority of players want to play Casual…
      As a matter of fact, I had lots of fun playing on Alternative gamemodes like special delivery and all that stuff…just wish there were more players that knows it exists

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 7 місяців тому

      the actual death sentence is that the gamemode sux lol

  • @bobalinx8762
    @bobalinx8762 6 місяців тому

    When will Wacky Races be official?

  • @pyrodegenarate6925
    @pyrodegenarate6925 7 місяців тому

    bro compared VSH to pass time

  • @Markm8
    @Markm8 7 місяців тому

    Snowplow is good, and simple as hell people are just mentally unwell

  • @lazyxeno9404
    @lazyxeno9404 7 місяців тому

    Long live v-scripts

  • @Egorik_cretv
    @Egorik_cretv 7 місяців тому

    vsh is just a very great mode

  • @fancyassasin
    @fancyassasin 7 місяців тому

    Hmm fish

  • @markrossiter3456
    @markrossiter3456 7 місяців тому

    It feels great for the community but kind of lack luster, it's content but it's almost worse then just playing vhs or freak fortress servers because saxton is busted and it's almost impossible to lose

  • @J-wolf5
    @J-wolf5 7 місяців тому

    It’s so sad heavy tf2 has dead, can we get 5 likes on this video?

  • @Trevorus1
    @Trevorus1 7 місяців тому

    Not related to the video, but I consider the new version of Saxton Hale better. Buuuuuuuuuuuut, The only thing I don’t like is that Saxton basically has random crits/Saxton Punch.

  • @BartekAtNight
    @BartekAtNight 7 місяців тому

    not really to do with the video but it's been bugging me for weeks, the voice lines for VSH are broken and they won't play for me anymore!!!!! i think it's an issue for multiple people and i hate how the creator hasn't fixed it grrr!!!!
    oh and death run wouldn't really suit outside of community servers tbh, i feel like it's a bit too different from casual TF2 to be added in.

  • @pooplooser6497
    @pooplooser6497 7 місяців тому +1

    This was a good video but you sound like Lazy Purple Lite

    • @RocketManFran
      @RocketManFran  7 місяців тому

      I'll take that as such a great compliment XD

  • @XnerzTheNerd
    @XnerzTheNerd 7 місяців тому

    So late!

  • @cyruscheng499
    @cyruscheng499 7 місяців тому

    Community sourcemod vsh is leagues better than vscript vsh

  • @Sir.M
    @Sir.M 7 місяців тому

    M

  • @privatetrolldier5640
    @privatetrolldier5640 7 місяців тому

    Hey i am private trolldier i am here to troll. I hate metas.

  • @Metal_Tao
    @Metal_Tao 7 місяців тому

    RocketManFran, can i get one for my queer homies?

  • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
    @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 7 місяців тому +2

    vscript vsh is not getting any new bosses or huge balance changes so it will forever be extremely unfun to fight against a brave jump spamming hale
    also was this made like weeks prior because its already outdated, vsh is in the game
    edit: man wtf is that hale gameplay

    • @AlanRuiz-gv5vi
      @AlanRuiz-gv5vi 7 місяців тому +1

      You are the one man army, the only person that talks about the shit aspects of vsh, maybe one day they hear you or maybe not

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 7 місяців тому

      @@AlanRuiz-gv5vi lizard of oz, during playtesting, watched hale camp a doorway by spamming brave jump and stomping anyone that walked in
      instead of thinking "hmmmm maybe he shouldnt be able to fly 24/7" he thought "map design issue"
      he doesnt recognize that there is anything wrong with the gamemode so its just gonna die and be populated by friendlies, while casual players return to the regular game and vsh fans return to sourcemod
      and its just sad to see because old vsh isnt good either, with the meta being so stagnant and set in stone that, if anyone tried to say, nerf the mantreads trolldier playstyle, there would be outrage

  • @alanw2940
    @alanw2940 7 місяців тому

    'promosm'

  • @CharaGonzalez-lt7yw
    @CharaGonzalez-lt7yw 7 місяців тому

    This is why I am against the zombie mode currently on the workshop. The map selection is mostly poor, it's a gamemode that literally will not work outside of a halloween restriction (which would hinder it heavily) and well, nobody really asked for it either. It seems to me they're trying to ride off VSH's unexpected success in being added. I'd much rather maps like Circus get added

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 7 місяців тому

      circus is already getting in, its too good for it not to
      what you should be worried about is that ics might get the 8th map of his in the game

  • @Sypitz
    @Sypitz 7 місяців тому

    SAXTONNNN FIRST!!

  • @sergejaleksov9956
    @sergejaleksov9956 7 місяців тому

    Ok

  • @killerbyte7252
    @killerbyte7252 7 місяців тому

    I LOVE Cp_Snowplow. its so fun