PDP Concept Direct Drive Double Kick Pedal Review by Sweetwater
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2016
- Hey drummers, check out the PDP Concept Direct Drive double bass drum pedal! It's engineered to give you the sensitivity and performance of a high-end product at a great price. The XF extended footboard's brushed aluminum construction offers a distinct look from many pedals. DW-style Air Beaters and spring rocker adjustment let you know this is a quality pedal that will last you for years. And the low-mass drive train offers smooth and consistent linear feel.
Thanks for watching - click the link below for even more info on the PDP Concept Direct Drive double-kick pedal!
-- Nick D'Virgilio
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I just wanted to say, I thought Nick D'Virgilio did a super job with this video. I wish all the drum demo videos on UA-cam were this good!
+John Dorizzi Same here. Nick rocks and it's awesome to see him doing these demos!
It would have been more legit if a metal drummer did the demo.
@@morganix007 i get what you're saying but metal guys aren't the only ones who use double pedals or double bass in general. plus in terms of 'legit', nick shreds 90% of metal drummers as far as overall skill. you're not gonna get more legit than ndv
@@sjang816 hey,I'm talking about feet skills which he lacks compared to a metal drummer. And I mentioned a metal drummer because dbp are more popular with metal drummers
@@morganix007 I totally agree dude. Should've been someone that can do heel toe double strokes. That's why the majority of players but these direct drive long board pedals
a true gentleman.. Total class, and he plays so very well!! 5 stars to Nick!! 👍🏻👍🏻
His drum style is dope, i really dig his freestyle. And good control with those doubles
your mic- ing on that drum is AMAZING
Awesome nick!!!
Nick is too good we all love him
Geezas awesome on the drums!!
Just imagine Tama speed cobra's turned into a direct drive pedal
Andrew Goulbourne very true
ive currently been trying to figure out how to DIY convert my speed cobras to direct
ACD Unlimited builts direct drive conversion kits for Iron/Speed Cobras and Elims, plus Tama just released the Dyna Sync, basicly a Speed Cobra Direct Drive.
they did. they have the Dyna-sync now :)
@@poldivina27 Double the price but.
I have attached think it's a great affordable way to buy a direct drive pedal to try out over the space of say six months so you can get used to the way a ddrive feels, I needed a good two months to get the right muscle memory programmed in my playing memory, once I had I really ended up loving ddrives, I added heavier beaters and a better linkage bar, better springs, I put the tama speed cobra foot board springs under the board and upgraded the bearings in the pedal to some high end skate board ones and the pedal is amazing (5 years on it's still doing great)
Please make a review of the Tama Speed Cobra HP310 LW since its a very popular pedal and there are no videos about it yet!
I found the connecting beam/rod to be too short and when maxed out but still having both screws locked on the beam you could tell it wouldn't hold up over time. I'm 5'9", so someone over 6' I'd assume would have some issues. Aside from that it's a pretty good pedal, responsive and the foot board's length is really comfortable.
love that dark ride
This pdp drums sounds incredible good by the way!!!!
They're Grestch drums, not PDP
Funny hearing chain drive described as a 'normal 'pedal'. Back in the day a lot of pedals were direct drive and I remember when the DW5000 first came out they were going on and on about their chain drive mechanism. Oh, and back then, DW was just as expensive as it is now!
Need an updated version of the new design!
Dang, had no idea Jon Lovitz shredded drums like this...
acting!!!!!!!
Self Wellness Company lol
😂😂😂😂 I’ve always wondered who he looked like!! Thank you!
Self Wellness Company or that he wore skinny jeans....
Self Wellness Company dude I just laughed so hard a sharted
i started off with pearl chain drive pedals but then i got my axis long boards and now i could never go back to chain ,i love direct drive pedals
Tony Danza has chops! Who knew guy could drum!!!
I bought a Ludwig Speed King from my paper route money when I was 14yo, I am now 55yo and that pedal is still going strong.
Why do I mention this? It is also a direct drive style pedal, and once you get use to them, you will be hard pressed to go back to a chain drive pedal, like has been mentioned before.
Thanks for the review, I will have to check the double pedal out.
Smurf431...Same here. I even went with second kick drum because Ludwig didn't have a double pedal back then. So I have two speed kings. I am now 51 and still have both. They are a little squeaky but that is what makes them great to me!
Lol - I "inherited" a Ludwig set over 40 yrs ago, with the Speed King. My only beef was the connector between the pedal and the actual mallet would hit, then break. Finding replacement for that was a royal pain. When I look at this review with the "cobalt" connector I have the same concern about it breaking. Where I live in rural Indiana, music shops are few and far between. I've not played for 5+ yrs now, but thinking of dusting them off "for my retirement". Yes, my speedking squeeks too!
I'm a younger kid, but my first kit I picked up a few years back was a 70's Ludwig. Came with a cheapo chain drive that I hated, and it was the first thing to go. Got a used speed king really cheap online, and I don't think I could use a chain drive again. That's why I'm picking up one of these double pedals ;)
Many a top of the foot bruise from that Ludwig Speed King...for years!! Until l switched to dw! 😆
I have thame story but im 24 now. The speed King is amazing!
very nice snare
Review the DW 9002 XF please!
Ted Cruz really got good at drums after dropping the race... good god this guy is good
Lol
I got physicist Brian Greene vibes
Played a few pedals, best was Axis Longboard.! Albeit I use Pearl Eliminator DP set up.!
Just picked up a set, from Sweetwater of course ;)
Loved Nick's playing in the video, he was superb in Spock's Beard. What's he up to these days when he's not making incredible demos for Sweetwater?
Look up Big Big Train - Nick D'Virgilio... reminiscent of Spocks Beard, but totally original. Long songs, very melodic, and some really well-thought out & well-played parts by Nick!
will the direct linkage fit onto a speed cobra?
on this kind of pedal could you still do the slide and the heel toe??
Good Vídeo
what can you say about the stability or durability of the metal parts..cause I read about the machine breaking easily??
What ride cymbal is being used here? Looks like a Meinl Dark ride but im not sure what size, and of course i could be wrong as well. Thanks id appreciate it
Ok this pedal or ddrum quicksilver direct drive pedals?
Could I pay yinz extra, to reassemble mine to lefty, if I buy? 'Cause I really wanna.
Hey Sweetwater, how's this bad boy stack up against the Pearl Demonator? I've loved my demonator direct drive and love the powerful feel from it, but it's very high maintenance and high price. Does this PDP deliver power? That's the main problem I've had out of most pedals is the feel is just never right, no matter how I adjust it. Thanks!
+Left4Green
Hello Left4Green! I felt the PDP direct drive had quite a lot of power behind it. Especially when I did faster dbl strokes. As far as how it compares to the Demonator, it has a long board and a 2 two way beater that is very lite, which for me helped get those really hard hits. Kick pedals can become such personal pieces to a drummer. Especially if you play the same one for many years. It becomes part of you. Direct drive, for me, takes some getting used to, but this one comes in at a great price and is really well made so it could be a nice option if you want to try something else. Keep on rockin!
Does anyone know if there is a bearing between the shoe and the heel of the pedal?
Hi! May I know how you mic-ed up this kit for this video? It sounds really good!
Hey there!
Since this an older video, before we had our own dedicates video facility, it was mic'd with a Royer R-121 ribbon mic (www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/R121) about 1 foot or so in front of the kick drum - and a Rode NT4 stereo mic (www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT4 ) above the kit. Simple but effective. I hope that helps. Take care, Nick
Thanks Nick! Really appreciate the speedy reply despite this being an older video. I will try that out! What the R-121 aimed at the centre of the head or the sound hole? Thanks once again! Regards, Jasper
What gretsch kit is that?
cool drummer. would like to learn from him lol
Does anyone know if it’s possible to switch it for a left handed player like myself?
hey sweetwater . i've seen few reviews of this pedal on your site . many said that this pedal is delicate , left pedal is sloppy and few other cons. all i want to know is , is this pedal druable? or is it true that some of it's parts break? i want to buy one, so please reply me on this. thank you
Their lack of response is all I need to know.
Unai emery is pretty good at drums
For how cheap these are it's a good way to try a direct drive out with out spending a fair chunk of money.
if a bass drum pedal doesn't come up as fast as your foot the just tighten the spring if it still doesn't the get a pedal that has a stiffer spring
Hey sweetwater, I saw another review and someone in the comments said that he went through 2 pairs of these direct drives and said they break easily. is this true? Because I'm really looking into buying these.
im starting to think twice about buying this pedal.
Did you buy it Ethan?
Ethan Carlson if you're breaking pedels you don't know how to use it!
Ethan Carlson I ended up buying the pearl demon drives. They’re ok I guess
Would you recommend this pedal over iron cobras?
Depends what iron cobra and what you're trying to play.
Does anyone know if these hit as hard as a traditional pedal?
Hey, Rony. Thanks for your interest. Direct drive pedals tend to be smoother than chain drive pedals. The power still comes from you, though. It can feel a bit too smooth until you get used to the different feel.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
trying find parts for mine need damn rocker hub mine broke
That ride cymbal tho
The bad thing about Direct Drive is that you can't test in a store before buying it. I couldn't find a single store with a demo pedal available.
Order, don’t like it, return.
How to set up?
Does anyone know if the double pedal comes in a hard case?
i want to know this as well....the inclusion of the hard case is a deal breaker for me, along with other double pedals as well.
He is a great drummer but I would really appreciate when reviewing double pedals to have a real metal drummer give it a onceover. Quick little fills don't really require any flashy expensive pedals - I'd rather see how stuff like this stands up to extended fast 16ths, triplets, blast beats, etc.
dirtpipedan Not only metal drummers us double pedals.
yeah what does metal drummers have anything to do with?! whats with you all and your opinions!
frank w because us metal drummers use double pedals in pretty much everything we do
I play in 2 metal bands and i bought the pedal more or less 1,5 year ago.
The connecting piece from the direct drive to the footboard is VERY weak. First the one on the main pedal broke about 1 month ago, i had it repaired and this week the left one broke as well. They both broke in the exact same way.
I googled this problem and it seems to be common.
I do play with the springtension on max and there's a lot of fast double bass going on, but still.. the pedal shouldn't break so soon in my opinion.
I definitely wouldn't recommend this pedal for a metal drummer.
A true metal drummer can play blast beats with any single pedal.
is normal that the pedal on the left is slightly more up than the other?
It's fully customizable but hard to get symmetrical. It is normal.
It's fully customizable but hard to get symmetrical. It is normal.
are these good for the heel toe technique
Nathan Lopez man... all i need to know whether this pedal is durable or not... it looks cheap.
They're longboards, so yes.
Is this a better pedal than Tama Iron Cobra P900?
Speed Cobra 910 is better imo
No, but the Tama is more expensive.
@@changgames4637 Better made products tend to be that way - if they last longer their value for money could be superior and you are less likely to be without a vital piece of hardware when the cheaper ones break down.
would yall recommend this pedal? it'll be my first direct drive pedal (but i can play double kick). let me know :)
From what I'm hearing, it starts to come apart rather alarmingly after a few months
what drum set is that because it sounds great
Look closely, that's a Gretsch - Classic Maple I reckon - uh American Custom kit
Drumstudio101 Google nice catch
What is the best double pedal for high fast play? 👏🇧🇷
Hello, Vika. Thanks for the interest! In my opinion, the Trick Big Foot Pro 1-V is the best for fast playing. I use this pedal myself in my metal bands. I have included a link below for your review:
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/P1V2BF--trick-drums-pro-1-v-bigfoot-double-pedal
Please let me know your thoughts! I hope you have a great day!
Ian Lemberg, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1280
@@sweetwater how about a pedal that isnt a grand? A 150-200 dollar one?
What snare is being used here?
+Nick Cavin
Hi Nick, that is a Gretsch 6 1/2x14 Bell Brass.
I need to spend money to buy that double kick pedal for my 5 piece kit and practice how to play metal.
I have the pedal and I love it
@@camthesooner123 Have you tried the herta fill using double bass pedals before?
No
@@camthesooner123 just look up on UA-cam and you will practice slowly to fast.
this or the DW3000 pedal? I can't decide
I have these. theyre pretty nice. lot of power. just a different feel from chain.
ethyl2551 3000's suck dude. Low end beginner pedals.
can you elaborate please???
i was gonna buy one for $240 but I'm not convinced yet
the 3000's are the entry level DW pedals. They're pretty heavy feeling IMO.
Pedal wih Rod :P
The DW linkage is the worst. I have a dw7000 and an Axis X pedal and I use the Axis linkage on my dw7000 when I want to play a chain drive pedal. You can buy the Axis pedal link separately.
Can I have your snare drum?
IDK don't think every one looking to be able to play double strokes with each foot have to be metal minded i wish there was a direct comparison of this to the Demon drive but considering the price point i think i already know the answer
I bought the double chain single pedal version years ago brand new and the damn thing fell apart on me months after I got it with not a whole lot of abuse either.
Why did I think this was Carl Azuz
all I can say I s I have heard nightmares about these pedals smacking calves and falling apart
whats the durability?
I've read some reviews on the internet, some people say that their drive train piece broke after a while, so there might be some durability issues. But it was only on 2 people out of like 20 so might be just bad luck. I ordered these pedals from Thomann and they give a 3 year warranty on every product so I'm not concerned about anything. That aside, these pedals look really good. I can comment back on this after I have tested them for a while.
Hi! how's the pedal after 3 months?
CzarCustom Hello. For my unpleasant surprise, the pedals didnt fit for me at all. They were really, really heavy and the direct link felt really weird for me after playing with chain link pedals. Maybe after a while I could have gotten used to it, but they felt so heavy that I ended up returning them after two weeks. If the weight of the pedal is not an issue for you, these might not be bad at all. Hope this helps!
This or Dw 3000
Jacob Boyd 3000
Please consider to send me a Double BD pedal for a review. But,
you likely WON'T get it back ! ! !
I refuse to believe his name is Nick devirgillio. He must be Carl hezus
Bought this foot pedal after a good review. This pedal didn't feel good from the start and I thought it was me. The very expert Leon Keppels of tunnel Music Arnhem discovered plays everywhere, making this pedal rattling and unstable very difficult to use. He turned out all the play and for 2 months I was able to use this pedal quite well. Unfortunately, the clearances and the rattling sound are back again. So a complete bad buy!
Are you saying that this pedal is not worth
I highly advise anyone thinking of purchasing this piece to not do so... it is horrible your left pedal is slow and if it’s not completely tuned correctly then it bounces sort of it’s horrible do not buy it
Hablas demasiado
That sweater screams double pedal
Haha
This pedals SUCK....... I have the chaindrive version my self and ive borrowed the direct drive version from a friend who got a dw 9000 played with it for a about 15 minutes and everything started to fall apart.....the spring tension from tight went to tottaly loose and the linkage (i dont how its is called english is my second language so there might be mistakes)that connect the two pedals just fell off if you want to buy a double pedal dont do the mistake and by one of these two models.If you are considering buying it because of the price just remember that it wont last long.
why dont ya learn how to tighten ur pedals before ya even use em ya punk! lol jk
FYI these pedals are such pieces of crap that I would absolutely NEVER recommend you buy them. Why? They are CHEAP. The drives snap, the pedal is so close to the ground in all scenarios that you cannot get a decent kick. Beater all the way back? NOPE. Spring tension all the way tight? NOPE. That pedal will not move more than 2 inches from the ground.
How do I know? I tried and tried and tried to make these pieces of junk work but they never would. I played on them for almost a year, had nothing but issues (squeaking, snapping parts, ridiculously long spring tension shafts, poorly designed and manufactured in general) and could never get them adjusted right. Absolutely do not buy them, you have been warned. Mine ended up in the trash where they belonged.
Good man you just saved me £200. I'll just pay the extra few quid for the demon drive. Many thanks 👍
This is the wrong guy to review these. It’s a longboard pedal and he can’t DO HEEL TOE
Dustin Engelmann are you stupid