I have similar 3m unit with the fully enclosed helmet and use it when raking out mortar for repointing brickwork,it is a must when having all that lime and cement flying around ,and lets you get close up to your work. I like the compressor for cleaning I will have to get one. I also use it when chopping wood in shed for my log burner,when I have a big batch of cls to prepair.
Thanks, I don't need the spark guard for what I do in Woodturning. I use that over the foam and it helps keep it in place when closing the door over the filter. If I was welding etc then I would turn it as you said. :)
Thank You 😊. I have one at work and no has ever talked about cleaning it. Gross!!! Some people wear ones that look absolutely disgusting 🤮. They go months without cleaning possibly never 🤮.
No problem, you're welcome. The advantage of working around sawdust is that you have to clean the filter regularly. People working in cleaner conditions wouldn't have to do that as often but it should at least be inspected. I also clean the face shield regularly and wear a washable multi-use cloth face shield over my hair which helps keep that area reasonably clean.
Glad it was helpful! It's not as comprehensive as I wanted to do but I will probably make a new one to clear up a few things and I will have a better camera setup.
just a suggestion - compressed air definitely blows holes in the paper filters.. I'd avoid that -..I work with soil and silica - I tap mine facedown that clears the debris - I just do regular airflow checks if it starts to reduce air flow and the unit is increasing speed to compensate -I'd replace it - btw i did see your disclaimer. thanks for the vid
Thank you for your comment and thanks for reading my disclaimer too. I don't blow directly into the filter at close range with high bar pressure so it can't make holes in it. I'm careful when I do it and to date I have had no issues whatsoever. All my filters are cleaned the same way and I have other machine filters with light paper in them. Again, I blow indirectly across the surface and it doesn't upset any of them. I might try your tap method but to be honest, wood dust is so fine that I doubt that will work. I know that my method works and is safe for me to continue doing it. I have sanded by hand for 30 mins to an hour without any mask and had pains in my chest at night as a result. I wear this unit for 7 or 8 hours a day using high dust volume sanders, cleaning my way and have no pain or symptoms at all. I have been in business for 10 years now and had this system for 9 of those. I appreciate your suggestion anyway. David
It’s definitely a trade off between cost and function. I’m working in a commercial analysis lab in a university in Australia. Silica exposure has become the new asbestos for us and as such adherence to new WHS laws overides any cost in replacement. 3m is selling these units by the hundreds literally to building, mining and manufactured stone businesses. We fine grind sand for cleaning of our equipment between soil samples - so for all Team it’s just no go with air if it’s that bad then the filters doing its job and that’s now the cost of business in Australia. We can’t even use air to clean our clothes as it creates air borne dust - we are supposed to vac only with a H class vac. I guess my thought generated by our processes here is if u are blowing the dust filter off you aren’t wearing any protection. We all do it..
Yes, definitely a trade off. The filters for the 3m are about €60 each and by right I should be replacing them 4 times a year or so, maybe more. The compressor allows me to extend their life a bit, eventually the warning buzzer keeps beeping and you have to replace the filter. Even though 3m advise that a compressor is not to be used, I'm taking the risks myself. Silica is probably heavier and has sharper particles than hardwood sawdust, would that be fair to say? I don't take huge chances with sawdust but I get caught out every now and again. I've been working around wood for about 30 years and I've been exposed many times without masks or respirators back in the early days. I wouldn't take chances with what you are dealing with especially when you are advised to vacuum your clothes after the fact. I never thought this video would be so controversial lol. I only wanted to upload a video to fluff out my channel a bit. When using the compressor I always blow away with the direction of prevailing wind and yes you are right, without a mask sometimes. Human nature....
This is really the first time I have replied or commented on anything. I get sick of those ppl 🤣. Who set out to cutdown ppl that make content. I was looking for content to use for training my Team as we are relatively new with these units. And also Hearing protection is big for us with compressed air, extraction etc well above 85db. Cheers for making the video and what you had to say, the only reason I couldn’t is it was the air part, as it didn’t fit my scope for our safe work procedures. I’ve worked in cabinet making with MDF and all the glues and preservatives and 2 pac spray painting so hear you on timber dust, daily costs and what is practical vs law. Thanks for responding 🤘
@@codster906 I've never commented on anyone else's video to date so don't worry about that lol. Yes, I can't stand those who post negatively or knock content and then don't stick around for the other person's opinion. I've no problem with anyone disagreeing with me as long as I get to explain myself and my reasons. Your comments have been a healthy debate on topic which is sadly lacking on the internet today. It's a pity you can't use the video but I get that I am using the device off label. I hope you get sorted with something that's appropriate. 🙂
Yes, you can, angled indirectly across the surface of the filter does no harm at all. I've been doing this for years without issue. I have added a disclaimer to the description based on this comment.
@@davidcondonwoodcraft7546 Those filters are for smoke filtration. The wood dust is to big them to be clogged properly. So in this case it makes sense to remove the outer layer of dust if it's not damaging the filter.
@@serbrat yes, the particular filter I use works for dust, fumes, aerosols, fungus etc. All of which I come in contact with as part of my work. The dust the Versaflo picks up are the micro particles that my extractors miss. All air filters need to be blown out at some stage, common sense really.
I have similar 3m unit with the fully enclosed helmet and use it when raking out mortar for repointing brickwork,it is a must when having all that lime and cement flying around ,and lets you get close up to your work. I like the compressor for cleaning I will have to get one. I also use it when chopping wood in shed for my log burner,when I have a big batch of cls to prepair.
Yes, a compressor is brilliant for cleaning the unit and filters. You can pick one up quite cheap and it will have other uses too.
Great video mate.. spark arrest goes on 1st
Thanks, I don't need the spark guard for what I do in Woodturning. I use that over the foam and it helps keep it in place when closing the door over the filter. If I was welding etc then I would turn it as you said. :)
Thank You 😊. I have one at work and no has ever talked about cleaning it. Gross!!! Some people wear ones that look absolutely disgusting 🤮. They go months without cleaning possibly never 🤮.
No problem, you're welcome. The advantage of working around sawdust is that you have to clean the filter regularly. People working in cleaner conditions wouldn't have to do that as often but it should at least be inspected. I also clean the face shield regularly and wear a washable multi-use cloth face shield over my hair which helps keep that area reasonably clean.
Great tips thanks
Glad it was helpful! It's not as comprehensive as I wanted to do but I will probably make a new one to clear up a few things and I will have a better camera setup.
just a suggestion - compressed air definitely blows holes in the paper filters.. I'd avoid that -..I work with soil and silica - I tap mine facedown that clears the debris - I just do regular airflow checks if it starts to reduce air flow and the unit is increasing speed to compensate -I'd replace it - btw i did see your disclaimer.
thanks for the vid
Thank you for your comment and thanks for reading my disclaimer too. I don't blow directly into the filter at close range with high bar pressure so it can't make holes in it. I'm careful when I do it and to date I have had no issues whatsoever. All my filters are cleaned the same way and I have other machine filters with light paper in them. Again, I blow indirectly across the surface and it doesn't upset any of them. I might try your tap method but to be honest, wood dust is so fine that I doubt that will work. I know that my method works and is safe for me to continue doing it. I have sanded by hand for 30 mins to an hour without any mask and had pains in my chest at night as a result. I wear this unit for 7 or 8 hours a day using high dust volume sanders, cleaning my way and have no pain or symptoms at all. I have been in business for 10 years now and had this system for 9 of those. I appreciate your suggestion anyway. David
It’s definitely a trade off between cost and function. I’m working in a commercial analysis lab in a university in Australia. Silica exposure has become the new asbestos for us and as such adherence to new WHS laws overides any cost in replacement. 3m is selling these units by the hundreds literally to building, mining and manufactured stone businesses. We fine grind sand for cleaning of our equipment between soil samples - so for all Team it’s just no go with air if it’s that bad then the filters doing its job and that’s now the cost of business in Australia. We can’t even use air to clean our clothes as it creates air borne dust - we are supposed to vac only with a H class vac. I guess my thought generated by our processes here is if u are blowing the dust filter off you aren’t wearing any protection. We all do it..
Yes, definitely a trade off. The filters for the 3m are about €60 each and by right I should be replacing them 4 times a year or so, maybe more. The compressor allows me to extend their life a bit, eventually the warning buzzer keeps beeping and you have to replace the filter. Even though 3m advise that a compressor is not to be used, I'm taking the risks myself. Silica is probably heavier and has sharper particles than hardwood sawdust, would that be fair to say? I don't take huge chances with sawdust but I get caught out every now and again. I've been working around wood for about 30 years and I've been exposed many times without masks or respirators back in the early days. I wouldn't take chances with what you are dealing with especially when you are advised to vacuum your clothes after the fact. I never thought this video would be so controversial lol. I only wanted to upload a video to fluff out my channel a bit. When using the compressor I always blow away with the direction of prevailing wind and yes you are right, without a mask sometimes. Human nature....
This is really the first time I have replied or commented on anything. I get sick of those ppl 🤣. Who set out to cutdown ppl that make content. I was looking for content to use for training my Team as we are relatively new with these units. And also Hearing protection is big for us with compressed air, extraction etc well above 85db. Cheers for making the video and what you had to say, the only reason I couldn’t is it was the air part, as it didn’t fit my scope for our safe work procedures. I’ve worked in cabinet making with MDF and all the glues and preservatives and 2 pac spray painting so hear you on timber dust, daily costs and what is practical vs law. Thanks for responding 🤘
@@codster906 I've never commented on anyone else's video to date so don't worry about that lol. Yes, I can't stand those who post negatively or knock content and then don't stick around for the other person's opinion. I've no problem with anyone disagreeing with me as long as I get to explain myself and my reasons. Your comments have been a healthy debate on topic which is sadly lacking on the internet today. It's a pity you can't use the video but I get that I am using the device off label. I hope you get sorted with something that's appropriate. 🙂
You cannot use compressed air to clean the filter!! Please read the manual.
Yes, you can, angled indirectly across the surface of the filter does no harm at all. I've been doing this for years without issue. I have added a disclaimer to the description based on this comment.
@@davidcondonwoodcraft7546 Those filters are for smoke filtration. The wood dust is to big them to be clogged properly. So in this case it makes sense to remove the outer layer of dust if it's not damaging the filter.
@@serbrat yes, the particular filter I use works for dust, fumes, aerosols, fungus etc. All of which I come in contact with as part of my work. The dust the Versaflo picks up are the micro particles that my extractors miss. All air filters need to be blown out at some stage, common sense really.