Custom Type R Exhaust- With Active Valve
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- We put our new Type R on the dyne to get a bass line and to see what it does on 91 octane. It still has the delivery gas in it.
We then put in 93 Octane to see the gains if any.
We then built the LHT Titanium Exhaust using the stock down pipe and mid pipe.
We started planning and building the tips and mufflers before the car even landed.
The Factory active valve is retained and should give us the mild to wild sound we're looking for.
After some dyne pulls, we have seen a small power increase and it sounds amazing. Just not a good sound at light throttle and free roving.
Part 2 we're going to make changes to that and get some more sound clips.
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This is def the nicest & cleanest designed Honda since the ‘00s era. I love it ✨✨
#LHTPERFECTION
I'm blown away by y'all's workmanship and attention to detail everytime.. 👍👍
Is titanium lighter? What’s the significance as opposed to what oem uses..
I mean…I like it! If you guys don’t want and are gonna scrap you can send to me lol! 😅
That was amazing. Can’t wait to hear it with the updated system
I know the Type R is sold but are you sellling the titanium exhaust for the FL5 platform?
We only made one. It isn’t something we’d have the means to produce. Sorry.
Big restriction there at the 3 way joint. Flow will not turn 90 degrees. With the valve closed, you will have a pressure build up that forces the flow to make those 90 degree turns. That's a restriction.
Under light load there no issue with restriction
What a beautiful system you guys have created. Didnt know thats how double wall tips were made so that was an eye opener too. Great work as always LHT 👌👌Looking forward to the drive by videos 🙏
Tips are more complicated than most realize, also pretty time consuming
1st class work as always, are you open memorial day, I'd likento come in and buy some things since I'm in the area this weekend from VA
Yep. We’ll be here.
It’s not 91 minimum octane, it’s recommended but not mandatory it will run fine on the stock tune with 87
I think that initial valve open and close during start up is the ecu checking the valve is functioning, great work as normal guys!!
yea stock car stock exhaust does this.
I know what you did at the gas station, first gallon goes in truck tank to clear the 89 from hose haha I do the same thing
Bingo 👍🏻
Some of your best work. (Fabrication and video)
Did you see this video ?
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@@LHTPerformance that’s just next level. Anything like that on the horizon?
@@NathanThrower We do have some long term
Goals still and cool builds to come
I can supply you with a Mclaren titanium valve to suit the OEM motor if you are interested
That would be very helpful for future valve builds.
merge the outter ones into the middle one
Can you make this to order
My old 10th gen Si exhaust sounded better than my stock type-r. haha. And I miss the little burbles the si had. This is one of the few type-r exhaust videos that sounds somewhat decent. And the burbles! Keep up the good work!
Great content! Incredibly educational and interesting. Thanks for taking the time to share. Following for your FL5 content.
Amazing, meticulous work here. LHT TLC & Fab FTW!! Great Job, guys.
On the Dyno the valve seems to open at a set rpm for the first movement and open the rest at another rpm/vtec engagement or boost level. Interesting.
Once I drive it more we’ll put a GoPro on it and watch the valve. It’s interesting that it’s programmed but on a stock system the noise change is almost non existent. It’s a shame not to utilize it.
@@LHTPerformance I agree! If it can be reprogrammed that would be pretty cool to set your own parameters. Can’t wait to see it on hondata!
@@PRZJ91 Yea. That would be great.
How we get this exhaust
So will it be a 2.25” branch off from the 3”? I believe that keeps the ratio similar to the stock. Great progress!
Awesome car❤
Ahhh..what the HACKKKK😅
That’s properly cool, craftsmanship is second to none. Also, well done on the weight loss George. 👍🏼
Who knew making an exhaust would be so interesting. Wish you guys got a hold of an 11th gen si and were able to make an exhaust for that too.
I definitely would say that stock exhaust is restrictive in my opinion
Loving the content - a much more calming music choice would make the viewing better
Good video John 👍
Here first!
That exhaust is beautiful and sounds amazing!!! Top notch work as always.
Im curious if you can run a hondata flashpro on it?
The ecu needs to be sent to Hondata for it to modified, then can be tuned with flash pro
Sell this exhaust and get $ back. Then make another one. Im certain someone will buy it as is. Great work otherwise. Quality build!
I don’t want to sell anything unless I’m happy with it. There’s a bunch of exhausts for this car that sound like crap. I don’t want to add to it. Lol.
Really nice work guys, I agree it’s too loud, but you will get it right
Just like the C8, I wonder if just replacing the tips has any noticeable sound difference.
Maybe
When will this be available to purchase. This is the best looking and sounding exhaust I have seen yet on the FL5
You can buy this exhaust, we’re still working on other ideas.
How do I purchase and what’s the price? This particular exhaust? As in the one in this video?
@@brettbaskes892 I’m selling for $3000 and we’ll install it if needed. We have $2800 in materials alone and about 40 hours in building it. It won’t be something we’ll reproduce as it’s not cost effective.
Artistry
Every car of yours is a true definition of touched by an angel!
So fascinated how consistently good you remain on each and everyone of your jobs...I really love watching you...superb!
Hey John, hope to see and hear it in action at the firm soon 👍
is this one off? or do you offer these?
This is custom made to the car. We don’t produce them.
LHT. Your craftsmanship and attention to detail is so far above. Even when put against the manufacturer. Great job and keep those updates coming.
Thanks for the kind words.
Always a pleasure watching your video , beautiful work , good video , high quality fabrication , tuning etc etc keep up the good work😊
Thanks so much.
Would you trust Costco Gas?
Absolutely not.
Does it make a difference to do the pedal dance to fully disable TCS/ASC when on the dyno?
Once the dash light up, the drive modes are locked until it sees the back wheels match the front
Here in Charlotte they are closing all the good shell stations and turning them into circle k. 😭 booooooo
That’s sucks. I feel like open market gas stations buy the cheapest gas and it’s never consistent
What are your go to gas brands?
@@k20fg2apexjunky2 Shell, Mobil
For real and also QT gas stations are at every corner now too.
You guys are pretty good at this 👍🏼 Can't wait for V2! Nice work!
Thanks my friend. It’s fun, plus we’re learning too.
can you guys try a catted/catless downpipe for back to back dyno?
We won’t be running without a cat. I don’t want the smell , plus we’re not going for all out max power.
Do you have any plans for cooling system or induction improvements
I do have plans for a Large Intercooler , we’ll see how it does at the track
The computer cuts torque in the 'low speed pre-ignition region' they tuned it that way from the factory to avoid LSPI which will put extreme stress on the engine. Lots of tunes give you big torque numbers down low, that's just a recipe for disaster.
I understand this and something we do on our builds. Taking power down low on my S2000 was a perfect example, it was wanting to make 300+lbs tq at 4200 rpm’s which is hard on everything. I wonder why Honda put so much in on the FL5 and not the FK8 and run it so lean at the same time. Is it to heat up the cat for efficiency 🤷♂️
@@LHTPerformance It could be to avoid LSPI for the most part, the lean area is where the engine has highest efficiency, if you look at any run of the mill BMEP graph you see BMEP is highest at that rpm. Only issue with that is if you run too lean it starts making combustion unstable, a lean misfire is still bad but not as bad as a rich misfire in that engine speed range. My guess is Honda rather have lean misfires than rich misfires because of the damaging nature of LSPI.
Best sounding exhaust i have heard yet hands down. I would buy this right now if it was available. I am still unddetermined which one i want after 6 years, this one is music to my ears. Well done!
It’s for sale , I’m selling the car.
How much? @@LHTPerformance
I made 547whp on stock FK8 exhaust - once you add a 5" downpipe and 3" front pipe the sound is good but not raspy - stock exhaust isnt that restrcitive really. Was looking at the remus for a valved option but it was basically 3k or so with options 😂 bought a used greddy exhaust to help beta test a new turbo and miss how stealth my stock exhaust was - im making great power with no backpressure issues but its always open and loud.
Valved option is a keeper if going to larger piping to keep the sound down around town
That’s good to know. I’m not planning on big power as I’d like to take it to the road course and enjoy it. Mid 300s will be plenty, plus I don’t want over heat it racing. We’ll figure out the sound , then I’ll be happy with it. There’s not a lot of power in the exhaust , but there was a little.
@LHT Performance stock turbo has more heat issues as the td04 housing is tiny and the bearings/passages are smaller
My RV6 R660 is using a td05 cartridge and -10 AN coolant fittings - makes power to 7600 on stock cams
On stock turbo I hated the torque spike that blew the tires off - the P600 and R660 are easier to drive and get back on throttle mid corner and corner exit
I made 417/420 on stock fk8 turbo e30 ....spools too fast - easily blew my 265 Cup2s off on WOT
The FL5 turbo will probably be worse as it's smaller and made for low end torque response which compounds traction issues when you up the boost.
Mid 300s on 93 won't even need mods - basic tune will get the job done so should be fun to watch how you like it.
@@TheFK8Life Definitely too much low down torque. I’m thinking we may be able to tune some of it out put a little on the top. Once we get the exhaust dialed in that I like it, the mid pipe and down pipe will be on the list. I want efficiency, so a slightly large turbo might be in the cards. I don’t need a ton of power.
Thanks for chiming in 👍🏻
dont you have to wait for the completion of the break in period before doing such hard pulls?
The only break in required is for the clutch. Which I did, lots of stop and go for the first 200 miles. The engine is pretty ready to go from day 1.
@@LHTPerformance thanks for the clarification
Type R Thursdays🎉🎉🎉
have you thought about using the oem honda mufflers for the two outer sides? seems like this would give you the best of both worlds.
I’m wanting it titanium. The factory mufflers are a very low grade stainless. We’ll figure this out and get it right. Just a case of getting the right combination
@@LHTPerformance ahhh that makes sense!
Yall knocked it out of the ball park.
Thank you. It’s close, but now perfect yet. It will be. We’ll figure it out.
Sounds great!
Always blows my mind how useless the valve is on some cars. My prior bmw and now FL5 are both almost indistinguishable when open yet all my vettes have been night and day like you said
Yes. I agree. Seams like a waste of a hood thing.
@@LHTPerformance do you think just removing that center muffler after the valve would be a noticeable change for those of us who want quiet mode to stay 100% stock?
@@483SGT I do plan on testing that too. Once I get our new exhaust where I’m 100% happy with it.
Can't wait to see it! Thanks for the responses
@@483SGT no problem.
I bought gas Rally in So. Pasadena for $3.09 before I came up the other day. 4 miles after filling started acting up. CRX has been running like crap since. wont buy gas there again.
We’ve had this happen too. Tuning a customers car, I didn’t want to make over 340whp with picking up knock, some fresh shell and 400 clean as a whistle. I think these off brand stations buy anything and sell it.
can you get pops n bangs?
I think under de cell, it may crackle a bit. We’ll do some driving videos soon.
Fuck yes! This is that hard hitting shit we been waiting on John!🎉
How much would this titanium catback with the valve cost?
At this point I wouldn’t know. Until we get it where I’m happy with it , it’s not going to for sale. We’re not building something if I don’t like it. Lol. We’re 3 days into building it , so it’s very time consuming. Once it done and we figure things out, we’ll have a better idea
if i have fl5 i make two twin loop like with no muffler and muffler on center
We could whatever you want 👍🏻