The 600RR runs on much higher compression and aggressive cam profile as well. While both use forged cranks, the 600RR has a slightly shorter piston travel too which lets it rev much higher. Too bad its also significantly more expenisve. Im just happy they still sell this since Yamaha stopped selling the R6 :c
Theyre totally different thing Only 600f4 f4i from early 2000s have the closest power compare to 600rr (10hp gap But 650r is like 30+ hp less then 600 average super bikes
I bought my cbr600rr at 8k miles. 2 years later it is at 25k miles. 600rr is very comfortable, I have no problems with it. It is my daily driver, I do not have a car. that should tell you something.
Uhmmmm ... WRONG, kid !! 😅 I hv done very long distance, 2000+km, runs across & along Malaysia on my 2021 CBR600RR !! 😏 Owhhh BTW ... im 52 😅😌 If U can't afford something, don't criticize it just to feel better 😉
@@leadsolo2751 I can definitely afford one if I chose to get one because I'm definitely not no dam KID and own 3 new bikes. Just doesn't make sense to be less comfortable and pay 4k more for a tiny bump in power.
I'm anyday a 600RR fan here from many years.. And 600RR doesn't stop at 255 it goes like 280 stock and it's older models used to cross 290 kmph too. And I think Honda is the only company which made it's sports tourer and super sports 650 and 600 cc both inline four🔥.. I love 600s anyday than 650s
well its whole different divisions. you see 650s are made specifically for touring while the double RR are made for track. literally no reason at all to go 250kmh++ on a touring bike
@@wolverine1854 Ok but what the interest would the Honda company have to underestimate the vmax of 600cc sportbike?;p I am sure they can measure the max speed of their bikes :D From the other side: can you beat the official acceleration times?
I rode mostly Kawasaki bikes in my lifetime. And only had experience on a Honda dirt bikes. I will one day get a 600RR, as I heard nothing but good things about it for decades. Plus I'm a sucker for that rear exhaust.
@@Thegoodguycamp Actually both are sport bikes - neither are super sports. Cbr650r is NOT a “sport touring” bike, just a sport bike. The video Yammie and spite did comparing those two bikes was good. They’re both geared vastly different, the cbr is more comfortable, the R7 is faster down low and the cbr is faster up high. Two totally different bikes.
@@myfewmoments that's actually very unreasonable for the manufacturers. As if riders won't be checking their fuel more during a lot of high rev runs. 🤣
A guy asked a mechanic which one should he buy. Mechanic surprised me saying “buy the RR because parts are easier to find” that’s the reason I go for RR
Does anyone know if any of the 600cc engine parts fit the 650, I wanna try to get 100+ hp out of a 650 because it’s All I can ride for 3 years in Australia
In my country the prices are crazy different prices in AUD ZX6R 16.5k YZF R6 19.7k CBR600RR 27.6k YZF R1 29k ZX10R 29k why would anyone buy the 600RR cost over 10k more then the ninja
@@guntherschultz912It's not in the Philippines. Also, the price of CBR1000RR-R SP is 1.5 M. There's no way that it's only 200,000 php away from 600RR's price. In addition to that, in the countries who have it, it's close to the price of Kawasaki ZX6R.
Its not about rr or Its 50cc making it so much different from any 600s sport bike Lower compression ratio longer stroke. , more low torque setting instead of peaky power
I love my cbr650r. Both these bikes will go faster than the “official top speed” in this video but 150+ mph in a “sport bike” that you have no reason to ever take to the track is way more than enough. For either freeways or “twistys” being able to “cruise comfortably” at 80 to 100 mph is awesome and the cbr650r will do that easily.
@@someoneelse1i1iat what rpm do you cruise at 60-80mph? i’ve got an old cbr600f3 but i can’t sit around 70mph without it going above 6800rpm. was looking to possibly upgrade to a 2021 600rr or a 23 650r in the near future..
@@johnnyhun1 Traction control and wheelie controle is on the same trigger on the left of the handlebars. when I apply the clutch to do a wheelie with the traction control activated, it cuts me off and makes my front wheel fall to the ground and it does the same thing to me when the rear wheel goes in all directions (sorry for my english, i use google translate)
@@PickaMaterina99 the cbr650r doesn't have a wheelie control lol I have a cbr650r and yes it blocks the wheelie but not because it has anti wheelie feature... Anti wheelie is different, the traction control only detects the slip of the tire, and when you dump the clutch the tire slips even for a milsec and thats why the traction control activates. Try doing power wheelies without the clutch and it will lift the front even when TC is on
@@johnnyhun1 ah ok, I thought it was an anti wheelie integrated into the TC. Unfortunately I can only do a wheelie with the engine power because I am on 35kW. I'll try it when I'm at 95hp. Thanks to you bro, you taught me a few things about my bike :)
Its videos like these that are killing the super bike! No, the 650 aint better then then 600 superbike in and way. Except if your an old guy with a bad back!
Explain kawasaki, then? How are they still producing superbikes? It's nothing to do with emissions, it everyone jumping on the bandwagon and thinking naked bikes are better then superbikes driving down the sales of superbikes, thus making Manufacturers concentrate more on naked bikes. WE DONT WANT NAKED BIKES THEY SHIT!
@@rikstar. ohhh, a salty squid appeared. The US isn't the only market. In europe Superbikes are just not popular anymore cause the streets here are perfect for naked bikes and Supermotos. There are a few that ride their Superbikes on the highway, but that gets boring pretty fast.
The 600RR runs on much higher compression and aggressive cam profile as well. While both use forged cranks, the 600RR has a slightly shorter piston travel too which lets it rev much higher. Too bad its also significantly more expenisve. Im just happy they still sell this since Yamaha stopped selling the R6 :c
Theyre totally different thing
Only 600f4 f4i from early 2000s have the closest power compare to 600rr (10hp gap
But 650r is like 30+ hp less then 600 average super bikes
600rr has way more electronics iirc
I just did 1,000 miles in 2 days on my 650r. No way that would be possible on a 600 without being crippled for a week.
I disagree, maybe YOU would be crippled for a week, but I’m positive there are riders who can do 1k plus miles on a super sport
I bought my cbr600rr at 8k miles. 2 years later it is at 25k miles. 600rr is very comfortable, I have no problems with it. It is my daily driver, I do not have a car. that should tell you something.
I agree haha no way im doing a long trip on a 6hundoRR
Uhmmmm ... WRONG, kid !! 😅
I hv done very long distance, 2000+km, runs across & along Malaysia on my 2021 CBR600RR !! 😏
Owhhh BTW ... im 52 😅😌
If U can't afford something, don't criticize it just to feel better 😉
@@leadsolo2751 I can definitely afford one if I chose to get one because I'm definitely not no dam KID and own 3 new bikes. Just doesn't make sense to be less comfortable and pay 4k more for a tiny bump in power.
Got a 650r and love it 🥰quick, comfortable and good looking
i got a cbr500r .. great first bike but ,, im keen to try Suzuki , Yamaha or Kawasaki
@@Suroshi89 cbr 500 great bike 👍🏾
@@Suroshi89gotta try the gsx series or the r6, man those bike are a beast
Same here - perfect bike for my needs!
@@Suroshi89Lots of great bikes out there right now!
Very nice video format, love it!!!!
So complete and well done video, keep up the amazing work!!
Yeah, I really like the way they give the information - easy comparison and easy to follow.
I'm anyday a 600RR fan here from many years.. And 600RR doesn't stop at 255 it goes like 280 stock and it's older models used to cross 290 kmph too. And I think Honda is the only company which made it's sports tourer and super sports 650 and 600 cc both inline four🔥.. I love 600s anyday than 650s
well its whole different divisions.
you see 650s are made specifically for touring while the double RR are made for track. literally no reason at all to go 250kmh++ on a touring bike
Anyway, i respect your opinion, id choose 600RR (NEW) anyday
It is only dashboard indication 😅
@@leonidasmarianidas4424 even it has speedo error on 290 + kmph atleast it might be crossing legit 275+ gps
@@wolverine1854
Ok but what the interest would the Honda company have to underestimate the vmax of 600cc sportbike?;p I am sure they can measure the max speed of their bikes :D From the other side: can you beat the official acceleration times?
Wow everything covered, including exhaust note.. just awesome
The latest logo of "CBR" since 2020 looks modern and more furious compared to previous logo design🔥
Cool. I was looking for this comparison. Thanks.
Wow man, thanks a lot for this video! It is so well done!
I rode mostly Kawasaki bikes in my lifetime. And only had experience on a Honda dirt bikes. I will one day get a 600RR, as I heard nothing but good things about it for decades. Plus I'm a sucker for that rear exhaust.
What a classy video, loved the format and the commentary. Subbed.
Hey man can you also compare the 600rr and ZX6r pleaae 🙂
GREAT DETAIL GREAT VIDEO
What fuel would you recommend for the 650R, in AU we have 91, 95 or 98 octane.
95
Read the manual, the manufacturer will always know whats best for the bike
@@DennisY96 Yes, that's right !
You can stick to 95 no problem, 98 once in a while ok but not always because it will damage the oil pump which cost some money to change
1:55 that dyno does NOT say 120 and 95 peak hp
Well, in short, 650R is a sportbike and 600RR is a super sportbike.
CBR 650r is a sports touring bike
Exactly. I have a cbr650r and I love it.
@@night1673 that actually what messed it up. Generally, sportbikes(R7) should outperform a sports-touring(650R) but that's not the case here.
R7 is not a sportbike...
@@Thegoodguycamp Actually both are sport bikes - neither are super sports. Cbr650r is NOT a “sport touring” bike, just a sport bike. The video Yammie and spite did comparing those two bikes was good. They’re both geared vastly different, the cbr is more comfortable, the R7 is faster down low and the cbr is faster up high. Two totally different bikes.
Why most of the sportbikes from 600cc to 1000cc do not have an actual fuel gauge?
they are track-oriented
@@myfewmoments that's actually very unreasonable for the manufacturers. As if riders won't be checking their fuel more during a lot of high rev runs. 🤣
@@WheelHeadd your right lol but a racer can do at least 20+ laps on one full tank of gas, just look at World super bike for example
They have fuel gauge, it measure from 0-4 litres only tho. It's the shape of the tanks that make it hard to install a full gauge.
@@pravesh736 lol litres, I hate that the usa wants to be so different from others 🙃 it’s so dumb as we use Gallons here
at the 2024 models, its 2000 price diffrence, always go for the RR
won't the seat heat from the exhaust?
A guy asked a mechanic which one should he buy. Mechanic surprised me saying “buy the RR because parts are easier to find” that’s the reason I go for RR
Depends where you are
Does anyone know if any of the 600cc engine parts fit the 650, I wanna try to get 100+ hp out of a 650 because it’s All I can ride for 3 years in Australia
engine parts no but talk with a tuner because you can do intake mods and get it flashed
Does anyone have a list on which countries in Asia this bike is being sold?
Well done! Thank you.
Amazing video
Are the bike weights dry weight?
Had a 2023 650r reached 252kmh. Sold it and bought 2024 600rr reached 276 kmh (both stock)
conclusion: just get both...
Sport-touring bike VS. Supersports bike🔥🏍
great vid !
now do the middleweight tourings, honda cb500x vs benelli trk 502 vs ktm adventure 390
올 해 cb500x 구매했어요. 너무 좋습니다. 특히 미친 연비와 유지비는 나를 즐겁게 합니다.
Just did my 8000th mile on my 600rr no wheelchair
Video... Nicely done...
It's an impressive comparison. good video.
Im not videos like this are killing the superbike
Bro put the comparison video about Kawasaki Zx6-R vs Honda Cbr 600 rrr
Pls bro
Bro please brooo, yes bro my bro, bro life bro
@rogerwilliams6341 sucks. Not even in same league
they are selling 600rr's in amerca cause I got one on order. CANT WAIT!!
I used to have the older model CBR 600 F2 1992..😯😢
I had one too. And the original 1987 CBR600 Hurricane as well. Both fantastic bikes that gave me a lot of good memories. I wished I still had them.😞
I currently own a 1996 CBR 600 F3.
Simple answer: 650r is a sport touring while the 600rr is racing racing bike
In my country the prices are crazy different
prices in AUD
ZX6R 16.5k
YZF R6 19.7k
CBR600RR 27.6k
YZF R1 29k
ZX10R 29k
why would anyone buy the 600RR cost over 10k more then the ninja
Yes that makes absolutely no sense surprised they even sell, might as well buy a R1 or ZX10R instead. ZX6R is the no brainer
@@UltimateEnd0 yamaha wondered why there sales were down on the R6
The 650r looks so damn goooood
Yeap copared to the RR
Can you do ducati hypersport
12000 euros for the RR is a steal!
I LOVE CBR series
could you add the gas tank capacity ❤
Honda should have just made a 650RR and given the rider both the horsepower AND the torque.
CBR650R is like a touring version of the RR
The CBR600RR is not available in the Philippines 😭😭
It is, it cost 1.3m
@@guntherschultz912It's not in the Philippines. Also, the price of CBR1000RR-R SP is 1.5 M. There's no way that it's only 200,000 php away from 600RR's price. In addition to that, in the countries who have it, it's close to the price of Kawasaki ZX6R.
@@muchwithamouthdogepool255 thank me later
@@guntherschultz912delete that crap
Need to do the same to Ninja 650 VS Ninja ZX6R
I had both. The 650 was my first bike, and it's a damn good bike. But doesn't compare against the ZX6R.
@@LIVEFRMNYCSame. The I4 is key imo
Well I think both bikes are good they have different downsides and upsides
it all depends on the buyer or rider
Its not about rr or
Its 50cc making it so much different from any 600s sport bike
Lower compression ratio longer stroke. , more low torque setting instead of peaky power
600RR is so feature rich it's hard to pass on it
600RR more on Track less on street.
650R More of a day to day bike on a sporty mode.
I love my cbr650r. Both these bikes will go faster than the “official top speed” in this video but 150+ mph in a “sport bike” that you have no reason to ever take to the track is way more than enough. For either freeways or “twistys” being able to “cruise comfortably” at 80 to 100 mph is awesome and the cbr650r will do that easily.
@@someoneelse1i1iat what rpm do you cruise at 60-80mph? i’ve got an old cbr600f3 but i can’t sit around 70mph without it going above 6800rpm. was looking to possibly upgrade to a 2021 600rr or a 23 650r in the near future..
CBR650R is a Sport Touring middle weight bike were as CBR600RR is a Supersport middle weight bike
Menuda diferencia de sonido. La rr suena mucho mejor. La R suena bien pero me quedo con la RR
bimota tesi h2 (2022) vs superleggera v4 please...
so for short, these 2 cbr is like when you ask what's the difference between a yamaha R1s and the R1
R1s & R1 are the same just different electronic-package provided I guess, maybe all other lower R1 line vs R1M? or M1?
the 650r have wheelie control. Is combined with traction control button on the left side of handlebar
dude, its not wheelie control its abs...
@@johnnyhun1 Traction control and wheelie controle is on the same trigger on the left of the handlebars. when I apply the clutch to do a wheelie with the traction control activated, it cuts me off and makes my front wheel fall to the ground and it does the same thing to me when the rear wheel goes in all directions (sorry for my english, i use google translate)
@@johnnyhun1abs control is only for braking if im not mistaken, good to you bro
@@PickaMaterina99 the cbr650r doesn't have a wheelie control lol I have a cbr650r and yes it blocks the wheelie but not because it has anti wheelie feature... Anti wheelie is different, the traction control only detects the slip of the tire, and when you dump the clutch the tire slips even for a milsec and thats why the traction control activates. Try doing power wheelies without the clutch and it will lift the front even when TC is on
@@johnnyhun1 ah ok, I thought it was an anti wheelie integrated into the TC. Unfortunately I can only do a wheelie with the engine power because I am on 35kW. I'll try it when I'm at 95hp. Thanks to you bro, you taught me a few things about my bike :)
650r for city ride is more comfortable in low rpm 😁😁
600RR is a RACE REPLICA so the comparison is very different
Completely different bikes, the only similarity is the fairings & i4
Bro do honda cb125r vs yamaha mt 125 please😊😊❤
Dude, they’ll be practically the same, just cheap out on a 125 and go for something really fun when you get the a2 license
600RR is in Europe for 2024
Hi brother Cbr 600rr is available in India
high power comes from high compression ratio of 600RR otherwise there is no replacement for displacement 😁😁
Ninja 400 vs CF Moto 450 SS :D
R6m vs cbr600rr bro
not even in same league
600rr is pure racing bike while 650r is not
TLDR: 600RR is a waste of money if you wont be doing track
Great presetation.
No!
i LOVE my fat chunky vfr1200f
The difference one is junk one is not
450sr is the best
A Ktm engine in a Chinese bike no way lol
@@NudaMan 450sr can beat cbr500, as hole
😂😂 450? U joking right!
@@rikstar. try to watch full gas drag race in Mexico, he busted out all those Japanese brand in race by single cfmoto 450 sr, u suck..
600RR is a keeper
la face avant de la 650 est trop exagérée 😂 que quelqu’un apporte du ciment pour combler le trou 🕳️
650 power
😂😂
Up
My 05 600rr does 284 lol
cbr650r design is so outdated, it is so ugly
ybaB em fo egatnavda ekat dna knurd em teg
Exactly 😂
Topi😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Its videos like these that are killing the super bike! No, the 650 aint better then then 600 superbike in and way. Except if your an old guy with a bad back!
No lol, emission regulations are.
Explain kawasaki, then? How are they still producing superbikes? It's nothing to do with emissions, it everyone jumping on the bandwagon and thinking naked bikes are better then superbikes driving down the sales of superbikes, thus making Manufacturers concentrate more on naked bikes. WE DONT WANT NAKED BIKES THEY SHIT!
@@rikstar. ohhh, a salty squid appeared. The US isn't the only market. In europe Superbikes are just not popular anymore cause the streets here are perfect for naked bikes and Supermotos. There are a few that ride their Superbikes on the highway, but that gets boring pretty fast.
The new CB69420RRRRRRRR with 2hp at 1 nonillion rpm
🤡🤡🤡🤡
Extra 'R' is more than extra 50cc